We should also consider that 9-5 was made for men who had a woman at home doing all of their cooking and cleaning and taking care of the kids - this is not the case nowadays. We have to work 9-5 AND do the household stuff which just doesn't match.
Perhaps this is true, but it's time to quit that thinking, after all nobody is forcing women to work. I have plenty of colleagues who did not come back to work after children becuase they didn't want to. And plenty of them who have children and working and thta is their personal choice.
@@scube6748 that’s why women have to choose wisely who they marry, they need a provider and a protector so they can take care of themselves and the kids, women also don’t have so much testosterone as men, they are not biologically wired to work as much as men… this women/men equality thing is kind of a scam and detrimental to women…
The problem is that the 9 to 5 drains you of all of your energy, there’s no time left for other passions, truth is we need less working hours per day, we’re working ourselves to death
And trying to explain this to my bf is like pulling teeth because i tend to shut down when i get overwhelmed. This 9-5 sucks all my energy out and i cant even put effort into the craft that will set me free from a 9-5.
This is exactly what the problem is, and I don’t understand how the world doesn’t change that. These hours came long before we had computers and everything was slower, now everything is faster, they should remove 2 hours from our working hours.
@@NadaAlawadhi I’d say 4 hours workdays are doable for office jobs, the rest of the time spent there is just wasted anyway…after that productivity goes down significantly…
I don’t know if I totally agree. Respectfully, if youre too exhausted from work to enjoy home life, then you’re investing too much energy at work. I work full time as a nurse, hold strong boundaries, and still get home with plenty of energy to spend with my family (which includes 4kids: ages 14, 12, 10, and 1). I’ll admit it took me time and lots of practice to get here but it is possible!
@@yangiemouie how many hours a day do you work? The usual 9-5 is actually 9-6 (1h lunch break) if you count commute and getting ready it’s 8 to 7 best case scenario, when do you find time and energy to spend with kids, clean, cook, shower???? I don’t even have time to date, not to speak of raising children…
Work from home, no kids, no commute, job that I literally stop thinking about the moment I leave my desk. Took ten years to get here but now I'm financially stable, stress free and work is 10% of my life mentally. And I got here working 9-5 office jobs 😂 love my job, why would I want the stress of being a content creator, business owner or freelancer!? I'm enjoying crazy privileges right now. Very grateful for my 9-5.
Completely agree with this video. 9-5 can be soul sucking at times but not all of us can just quit for our passions. Our families depend on us to work to pay the bills. But looking at our 9-5 as a means to an end, to fund our future freedom and passions really makes it more bearable and actually more grateful for our jobs. It’s all about perspective.
add on commute time, the time it takes to make your lunch, being stuck in traffic...a 9-5 hardly ever stays a 9-5. that was the big thing that bothered me in every job i worked and why i eventually left!
My job is not even 9-5😂 it’s 8-5 because lunch time doesn’t count. So with prep and commute, it’s like 6-6 in my life or 7-8 depending on when the lunch is prepared. That’s like 12 hours gone for just work itself. And with sleep and dinner and chores and chatty time with family, I either have no time for my family or no time for myself or no time for sleep 😅
Yeah commuting sucks, but it’s not as painful nowadays with phones. I listen to videos on yt, if I’m not on Spotify or Audible. Having a good sound system helps big time.
Okay so I’ve been working for 7 years and I’m still trying to figure out how to balance my life and my hobbies and everything and I often get burnt out. But a tip that helps is to always make sure not to skip your meals at work. I usually come home from work exhausted unable to do anything but to hang out in bed until sleep time. But I found out it’s because I don’t eat at work. At all. Which is stupid I know. So don’t skip your meals. If you eat early quick breakfast, never skip lunch. You come home and you don’t feel like a zombie. And hang in there ❤️
i love that you're addressing this. i just filmed my own take on this a couple of days ago, after having quit my 9-5 job last year. while i haven't regretted that decision once, it (as in trying to build a business and a channel on my own) has reaaally taken a toll on my mental health. while i still love what i get to do, being my own boss has definitely taught me to appreciate the pros of the 9-5 life, and to stop judging people who take that for what it is and just be happy with it. there's always two sides of the coin, you just gotta choose the coin you identify with the most
I'm a freelancer today and make good money. So yeah, my story has a happy end. But when I did 9-5 ... Is this an American thing? Because in Europe the jobs start at 8, not at 9, but whatever. I had to wake up at 6:30, eating breakfast, washing up, running to the bus, came to work at 8. Until I didn't want to drive myself (gas is expensive, your car will wear out), I had to wait for the bus in the evening. I came back around 6:30. So like many others say: it's 12 hours work. Then you prepare a meal, eat something - and watch TV. What else do you do? People with children may care for the children, but I wasn't in the mood to do anything than watching TV. I once had a new job in a new town, that I started in Winter. I kid you not, when spring came, I felt like suddenly living in a different place, because the first time I COULD SEE THE TOWN. I was waking up when it was still dark, and went home when it was still dark. I then discovered a nice café I didn't even know it was there, since in the dark I couldn't see it. Imagine that you aren't even aware of the place you live in, because you weak up so early and go home so late.
It's NEVER 9-5, especially in tech. Most people work 55+ hours a week in the US. This includes evenings, weekends, and holidays. And this is not including commute, meal prop, personal stuff.. So yes, not worth it. The 9-5 term is so outdated 😆
In Argentina, working hours vary widely, ranging from 6 to 12 hours daily. Part-time typically means 6 hours, while full-time can extend from 9 to 12 hours, depending on the industry. On-site architects work Monday to Friday, 7 AM to 7 PM, plus Saturdays from 7 AM to 2 PM. Bricklayers and plumbers usually work 8 AM to 5 PM, Saturdays 8 AM to 1 PM. Architects in studios work 9 AM to 7 PM, often with remote work. Government architects have a 35-40 hour workweek but low wages, leading to multiple side jobs. IT admins follow a 9 AM to 6 PM schedule with on-call duties. Doctors and nurses work 12-hour shifts, six days a week. A standard full-time week is 48 hours, though this mainly applies to employees, not freelancers with university degrees who lack strict hour limits.
I think it’s wild how women are expected to work full time and have kids - and if you don’t still work when you have kids you’re seen as a failure.. there’s a REASON housewives used to be only housewives with no other jobs. It feels impossible to work, take care of yourself and body, your house, children, let alone any time for social life, rest, dating or engaging in HOBBIES AND INTERESTS. It’s so depressing
@@latifahshakur5466 agreed! I think in generations to come corporations are going to have to change the way they work or people will jsut leave. Working for yourself seems like the only good option and I think the younger generation sees that. It’s going to create problems for companies that need workers down the track.
Try working full time, managing a house and yard, self care, 2 kids and an elderly parent...and being single with no help.At least it's not boring and I feel i can do almost anything in this world!😂
9 to 5 is too many working hours, it's exhausting over a long time. if only we can shift to part time work being more normalized and still able to pay the bills we'd all be much better with our health and fulfillment in life
If I’m an employer paying for you to have medical, dental, and 401k or pension, along with a nice salary. I have product that i need to get produced and out the door to clients and I hired you because of your expertise. Do you think it would be fair to me that you are allowed to only work part time and no weekends? I really want you to think about the question before answering..
I love my 8:30-4:30! My office is a 20 min walk/ 5min cycle from home. I take an hour lunch where I can browse the local shops, read in the park etc. We recieve yearly raises tied to the CPI and I also love the work I do, while corporate services takes care of all the business parts that I have no interest in!
When I started 9-5 straight out of college, I immediately found myself unable to keep up with taking care of myself….i was so drained and I could barely go to the doctor or or dentist if I needed to! Wtf! I couldn’t imagine how people with spouses and children do it….still to this day I don’t get how it’s possible to do it. At least happily. There is just not enough time in the days. Super wild. I don’t get it and I never will. I am 26 years old and I am scared to ever have a child because I don’t think I can manage working and raising a child at the same time. And some people have 3+ children…….I don’t know if I am lazy or these people are just mentally strong and caffeine addicted??? Again, maybe they’re doing it, but I don’t think they’re doing it happily??
I literally feel the exact same way! I have no clue how people with children do it. Hence, why I do not have children. It seems like all you would do would be work..
You are not lazy! Its not possible to be healthy and happy if you work fulltime, have a spouse and kids on top of taking care of yourself, cooking, cleaning, and maintaining your lawn.
What's strange is that most doctors office operate during normal business hours. Crazy. Like how is one suppose to make all necessary appointments when working a normal work schedule. PCP, dentist, chiropractor, etc etc.
I once babysat for a family were both parents worked and they had 3 children. Honestly, it made me not want to have children if I have to work full time.
Unfortunately, there are many of us who struggle financially and cannot support our hobbies and passions with the money we make from our 9-5 jobs. As you mentioned at the beginning of the video, everyone's reality is different. As someone in my forties, I use weekends to clean and do chores I didn't have time for during the week, and I spend time with my kids. As I get older, my energy level is lower, so I barely keep my head above water. Passions? I don't have the time or energy for them. And that is just so sad....
I hear you! I have seen my parents in the same boat. And while I do not know your specific financial situation, everyone definitely can benefit from having a strong budgeting system. Depending the size of your family and home, sacrificing one or two nights of eating out might total the same as hiring house cleaners at least once a month. It might sound like an unnecessary luxury, but it truly helps with the stress and energy cost of having an unclean home
@@HolisLoliss I understand where you are coming from and I agree. But you can only save and cut the budget if you earn above your basic needs ( like rent,utilities,etc ),right? If you earn less and yoi cannot even meet your basic needs,then there is a problem. And usually it is a circle from which it is very hard to get out of.
"Don't work on the weekends because that's not what you're paid to do. You need to pursue your personal goals as well. Setting boundaries at work is a skill in itself because sometimes you feel guilty. But once you understand that the company's goal is just to make profit, it will completely change how you view your 9 to 5." "In order to have a passion that pays the bills, it's got to be something that you love but also something that you are good at or relatively good at and at the same time, something that people are willing to pay for." "I'm all about doing what you love, living the life that you want. But I feel like just quitting 9 to 5 with no backup plan at all is actually a privilege."
My commute time is 4 hrs a day - I can’t afford to live closer to work. I only go into the office 3 days a week, but I absolutely resent that third day. I think 2 days makes sense for team building and collaboration etc but the 3rd day has zero value add and had a net negative affect on my life. This is my biggest struggle witu a 9-5. The ‘need’ to be in the office for no good reason. I am happier and healthier when I am not in the office. I sleep better, I eat better because I’m at home and can make fresher food, I get more rest, I’m able to exercise in daylight hrs, practise my hobbies. The corporate world really needs to re-evaluate their priorities when it comes to their workers
@@Godspit6066not OP but I know her pain. Where I'm from, traffic is absolutely crazy, that a place less than 3km from my house takes me 1.5-2 hrs to commute to, one way. I don't really want to relocate since I like my place, but I also don't really want to switch jobs since I like my job. The commute ends up something you just accept 🥲
Also, same! My Job requires us to go to work 3x a week, but I find that 3 is already excessive. We really only need to meet 2x a week, and I find that even then, most of the time spent in the office is just for socializing
@@Godspit6066 thanks, but it's not just a me problem, it's a nation-wide problem. Commute time isn't because I live far, it's because the roads & public transpo suck, so even if I work at a different company, I'd still have to endure the horror of commuting
No one I know works only 9-5. Most people work 8-5 or 9-6 with no option to take a shorter lunch to go home earlier. I get up at 6:30, get myself ready, get my kids up and ready. Leave by 7/7:10, take the kids to daycare. Leave daycare by 7:30/7:40 to get to work right before 8 am. I work all day, often through lunch through no choice of my own because I am salary. Then I leave at 5 ( if I am lucky) then race over to daycare to pick up my kids by 5:45. ( daycare closes at 6 so I have no idea what I would do if I had to work 9-6). Then we get home by 6. I make dinner and we eat by 7pm. Then we start our bedtime routine. Bath, pajamas, teeth, a story and bed by 8 pm. Then I have from 8pm to 10 pm to clean, do dishes, laundry, pick up and prep my lunch and stuff for the next day. Then bed at 10pm to start it all over the next day. I hardly see my husband. People may romanticize quitting the nine to five, but at the same time it’s not just 9-5. It’s everything else and to sacrifice so much of my life for a company that would replace me the next day if I died and hardly seeing or spending time with the family that knows I’m irreplaceable. It’s painful. Not to mention even in our dual income household we can hardly afford to pay all of our bills and we get less than 15 days of PTO/sick time per year. Which we have to ration between myself and my husband in case the kids get sick and can’t go to school. We have no time for a vacation, no time for fun, and can hardly afford to pay all the bills it takes to live and raise our kids. I don’t fault anyone for trying to make a go of doing some thing they love, I wish I had the freedom to try and chase those dreams, but my kids are my dream and doing what is best for them is more important than any “career” I could ever have.
I work 9-5 but most days i come in 15min late and leave early if my boss is not at the office. Sounds like you have a lack of boundaries plus an unhelpful spouse.
Came to the comments looking for if anyone else was making the 9-5 vs 8-5 comment. Every office job I’ve ever worked at had an 8-5 schedule and I don’t know of anyone who is 9-5.
@@SusanNicole2.0 yeah for me as well its more of a 7-4p but depending on the day, i will go home earlier or later. I test the water early on in employment. And id they don't say anything i keep my own hours which are usually max 40h per week.
There are pros and cons to 9-5 and self-employed life. You just need to think what you want, what you need and what's your personality type to pick a life you can sustain long-term. You might think you hate your 9-5 but you just might need to make small changes to your schedule or things you do in your off time to make it a more fulfilling life. Self-emplyoment is not all sun and roses. With so much online work, there is much fiercer competition and it might be hard to succeed quickly after you quit your 9-5.
No, you just need to change it to a 9-1 and have a life outside work! Everything is so automated and going hundred miles an hour, we need to slow down…
@@zencityvibes i agree. Everyone is hustling, chasing money and burning out. I dont think Ive met anyone who has hobbies or interests outside of work in the past three years. Its so sad
It's not just about the work itself. I work 40 hours a week and before the pandemic I had to go to the office every day. That means I commuted 1.5 hours every day. In the evening I had 4 hours to myself before I had to go back to bed. Cook? Workout? Nope. I was way too exhausted. Since the pandemic, I only have to go to the office twice a week. This is much better. But it doesn't work in every profession. Of course my job also has advantages. Always free on weekends. End of work by 5 p.m. at the latest. Social insurance etc.
I have written my resignation letter for June 2024, i am tired of this job, micromanaging & toxic boss, and the worst part is her cousin is our co-worker, so it's 2 related people against me. Nothing i do is ever good enough. Nothing is ever appreciated, nor my hard work acknowledged. Always being punished with even more work and not being paid for it, no PTO, no sick leave, no family responsibility leave, i have been working everyday for 3yrs and i am tired. Some jobs are not worth it
Finally a realistic advice from a person with experience, it's not all about chasing clout and hustling it's more about listening to your own mind and body and really having that internal monologue about your desires and future aspirations, disconnecting yourself from the digital noise.
I agree especially with the part that we must see the difference between the company’s goals and mine. And I can keep careful track of how I spend time in every part of my own life.
Definitely agree with your points. I have a part-time 9-5 (24h a week) and even though it’s definitely not my passion, I know I am good at what I do and I appreciate my steady income. I would only quit my 9-5 if I had a business/side hustle that has been consistently making the same amount of money over a period of time. No leaps in the dark possible in the economy we live in 😅
I've been working the "9-5" my whole life. (more like 8-5 with an hour for lunch). I moved jobs every couple of years for more pay. My job allows for flexible schedules so I work 730am-330pm, with 30 minute lunches. It's amazing what that shift in work hours has done for my home life. More employers should embrace this. My full job pays the bills and I pursue my hobbies and free time after work and on the weekends. When I started looking at my job as a means to "buy" me some free time, I didn't mind going to work. I have employer paid healthcare and retirement, that's also a plus you don't get with being an entrepreneur.
I totally agree. I tried doing a business for a year and it was so exhausting, I was not even making 1000 a month, yet working all day every day, no weekend, no holiday. I'd rather work 9-5 and make enough to enjoy my freetime
Good on you for trying it out, though. We've all really been sold a pipe dream with that, I did the same thing and I just couldn't handle the instability of it - some months 1500, others 300! I really missed the pros of 9-5 life, the consistency and tbh the social element. It's far from perfect, but there are lots of good companies out there and flex initiatives are becoming more normal
thank you for this video :) you put into words something i've been thinking about a lot, realising and accepting the company's goals being different from your own can be so freeing !! being able to 'leave' work and enjoy the weekend / evening without overtime is so important
I love that you made this video. I’m someone that pursued my academic career and have worked 9 to 5 jobs continuously, while creating my business. So I currently work a 9 to 5 career job and I still have a business going and it’s legally been for years, but I’ve been doing this business for six years. I am definitely reaching that point, though where I need to put more hours into my business to earn as much as I would like to earn from it, but I still want to grow my 9-to-5 career enough that if I ever left, I could come back and still get a good paying job. I will say though, with the 9 to 5 there really is little to no work life balance unless you are remote or hybrid. When I was remote completely, I could get more things done, but now that I am hybrid, it is a lot harder to get things completed. And it takes so much time to travel to work, they make us pay for parking, they definitely don’t even give us a 5% raise, yearly, and where I work, they don’t pay that well either. But they have great benefits… So it’s interesting what this life is turning into when it comes to working and I’m curious to see where it continues to go.
If I were to start a business this would 100% be the way I'd go about it, big round of applause for you to have made it work so far. By now you should have a good feel of the trajectory of your business though and whether or not it's worth the risk of putting more time into it and leave 9-5? And I can't believe they make you pay for parking that's just rude!
@@reinventingpoppy thank you! I’m trying to keep going whenever I want to give up. And yes, I believe it is very rude that they make us pay for parking and then tell us we have to come into office. I kind of got a good grasp on my earning potential right now… I’m trying to add in products because I’m a hairstylist as my business. So since it depends a lot on the amount of services that I can do, I want to add in products to help increase revenue. So I think once I successfully implement product production and selling, then I would reevaluate if I am able to leave my 9 to 5.
I'm in the same boat! Current hybrid schedule and we have to pay for parking when we go in twice a week. I I've always had goals to be in business for myself so I've been steadily building my own practice outside of my 9-5. I haven't yet decided if I will stay for the benefits/ connections or go full entrepreneur. Deep down, I want to shoot for the latter but we'll see what unfolds. For you, I am hoping it gets better! Reminder to put your best interest and wellness first! Best of luck to you in your business!!
I have 8to 5 job with 1 hour lunch, and I love it! For person who worked around 10years with work schedule every other weekend and very long hours that I knew what time I have to clock in, but didn’t know when is off, I am happy now with my job. Now for a person who wants to be a content creator or start a business better have plan B, C and D and a good savings to be able to support themselves try that period of starting it. Good luck to everyone ❤
I work a 7a-7p job 6 days a week. No breaks. It also takes me an hour to get home or get to work. I’m ready to QUIT! I am sooo burnt out and have NO time for myself or family. I can appreciate your video but I’m done lol
My 9 to 5 job really sucks, but I have bills to pay. I'm drained from my job, and I don't have any energy to live my life. And I don't have any passion. Thank you for this video 🌼💛
@@Klara_is_finding_herselfgood on you and wish you the best of luck. Hope you can find something better and get out of the current job situation asap ❤
Completely agree with the idea that you should consider your commute time as your working time. Currently I work from home and I got an interview for an office position. It would take me to 2 hours a day to commute, so the salary I should ask for is my current salary + 25% (to accomodate commute) + the raise I actually want to get
My 8 till 5 job I was out of the house from 7am, didn’t get out of work until 5:25pm, had to go and shop for dinner things (no car, no deliveries back then) then pick up my son from nursery, get him in, get him changed and bathed, make everyone’s dinner, puts some laundry on, do the dishes, put son to bed then it would be 8pm and I would finally crash on the sofa. Next thing you know it’s bedtime. Apparently this was my free time to see friends, pursue hobbies or start a side business 😅
I work unpaid overtime every day including weekends. The big difference it made in the real wage woke me up to the fact that I need to make a change. Thanks for this!
Life has always been about survival. If you have a decent job, a roof over your head, and food on the table, you are doing better than most throughout history. When we were more agrarian you would be working from sun up to sun down in the fields. When we became industrialized you would be working ridiculous hours in horrific conditions. If you lived through the great depression era frugality was your life, you weren't "having experiences." Then came a 30-40 year period post WWII where dad went to work and mom stayed home, but women didn't want that so here we are, working age men and women fighting over a very finite amount of decent jobs that elude most of us. Life ain't fair and the world is mean so if you are warm, dry, and not suffering from hunger pangs count your blessings. Heck, I'd love a 9-5 schedule with consistent sleep every night, that would be amazing.
Hi! I took the time to be grateful for the privilege of being able to quit. I can see how I showed some ungratefulness during the time I was working. I was in a work situation where I was expected to work with overtime, with no overtime pay and I absolutely hated it. My anxiety flew threw the roof and I am grateful I had the opportunity to quit, heal, and recuperate. I've learned to value the interview process. I also romanticized starting a business and realized that working overtime in my own business is the way to go because of the passion I have. Find a career you are passionate about so that work feels somewhat less stressful and more fair. Thank you for the tips!
I love that for you! You need to look after yourself first, if your job starts to impact your mental health then it's absolutely a sign to part way and heal ❤
Being a neurodivergent ( highly sensitive) I tried the 8 to 3 once and the months that followed cause a lot of stomach problems, fatigue and stress sickness. I think neurodivergence should be taken into consideration that 9 to 5 is physically and cognitivel tiring. Hence, many EU companies and in Europe in general are establishing 4 hours instead o 8 hours and 5 days maximum ( if I remember it correctly). Or some have a 4 day program with 6 hours. It is shown to work better for employees.
20 hours a week is not a full time job here in Europe😊 Depending on a country's laws, it's around 35-40 hours a week. Some countries or some companies implement a 4-day work week or a 7-hour workday (instead of an 8-hour one). Plus I think work commute in Europe tends to be much shorter, and with most types od legal employment you must be granted certain rights like healthcare access 😊
@@wyclefohara4169 commute depends on the country or place of work. I have friends that spend 4 hours on the bus to go to work and return. Also heaIthcare access is a work right, you are totally right about it. also think that Ireland and Denmark really consider into deducing work hours in half - some companies in Europe did it and it worked for them. I think that 5hours per day might be the best for our bodies since we have more time to rest and do things that relax us.
I am also neurodivergent and I’ve always known I will not be able to survive a traditional 9-5, 40-hour work week (which is terrifying because I know that I will need to survive). Even some part time jobs have really burnt me out and I end up leaving because I’m physically and mentally in shambles. There’s so little flexibility out there.
Thanks for the insight on this topic. I've been freelance/work at home for a while. I actually wish I had a 9-5 just for the stability. But I know the grass on the other side isn't always greener.
I love my 9 to 5 but what made me watch is that I also have the problem of constantly overtiming, either to cover sick leaves (I’m luckily never sick) or having way to many targets to hit and the pressure to do a great job. So I could relate, also I love making Excel sheets pretty, hahaha. Thank you for the great tips!
I don’t remember my mother ever being exhausted & she was a single mom, had 2 jobs. Our home was always clean. She said the food was healthier. She never ate out. She also said she didn’t have a cellphone distracting her every 5 minutes 😮
I feel like back then people just appreciated what they had and didn’t have the internet to compare their lives to everyone else, this is why people are so filled with depression these days. Comparison is the thief of joy
@@canders207You are totally right. That's why I want to find a part time job, start and small bussiness and live my life with what I have, it's the best solution, not all we born to be millonaries and Social Media sell us this, that "we can have whatever we want" that's fake.
This was really helpful since I just started a new job - quite literally around the same time you uploaded this video !!! Huh !!! It’s my first, real, 9-5 job that gives all the corporate vibes. I really want to prove to myself that I can handle it, but I also don’t want to get to a point to where I lose myself in the process. Thanks for this video. It’ll keep me grounded.
I wish I had seen this video when indeed the 9-5 (which actually felt like 9-9) job was exploiting the soul out of me. Super good advice. Thank you so so much for your content!
I’ve always had a huge gripe with corporate 9-6 life in general. Then, I have a dream to create content and work for myself instead of following someone else’s rules and timing, approval. It contradicts what I value most, my freedom and independence. Honestly, I don’t know how to find balance between having autonomy over my career without resorting to a typical 9-6 job and a life where I don’t let my schedule be dictated by someone else who just wants to make profit. I feel so… conflicted and frustrated here. I do need a stable income right now and I’m looking for a new job.
I have one of those said-passion 9-5 (more like 8-6) jobs (i'm a graphic designer) and it really killed all my other creative hobbies, because my creativity has burnt out during the work hours. My dream would be to be a full time illustrator (which i think 90% of the time is a freelance type of job, it's really rare to just be an inhouse/agency illustrator only there would always be other tasks to do as well) but i have no energy and creative juices left in me to start that business on the side... It really is a vicious circle. I have thought of doing a non-creative 9-5 but I have no other experiences for any of these jobs... I had tried to be 80% (4 day week but with less pay obviously) and it was life changing personaly but way harder financially.
I am in the same position. I thought It was just me, I like drawing but know I don't have energy even to even practice, or study languages, it is just like my brain doesn't absorb the information. 😢
I got a job at a local daycare that operates as an eight hour workday but 7:50 AN to 3:50 PM, five minutes from my house but in a very small town. I find myself wishing I had tried harder to get a job in the city, I proper 9 to 5, but then I think about the way that people are commuting and they lose time on that and I have nothing to lose So framing my thinking that way makes me feel more grateful for what I do have in the hours I can spend after work.
I needed to hear this. You spoke to me in regard to my work, evaluating my worth and my company's goal which is really to make profit. All this makes me feel used. I can't afford to quit either at the moment.
I went from being in a junior management position to a admin position because I hated the responsibilities. I also had a very toxic boss and team.It is not about what you do at times. It is who you do it with. If you have a toxic work environment please change it. Life is a blessing and we shouldn't be miserable. I am in a new team which are a lot better. My new boss can be a challenge but less toxic. I believe in romantisicing my office job. I find ways to make myself happy. I do miss my 7montb old baby when I am at work but I tell myself I am doing the work for her. I plan to try start a small side hustle to make more income so hopefully one day I can work less but for now I will find peace in my daily routine.
Yeah I agree, I feel like people don't talk about this as much, I've been working on seeing my 9 to 5 in a more positive light and setting boundaries to not overwork. Work is work, reality is that we have to work to make money and at the end of the day, at least the 9 to 5 pays you each paycheck, starting your own business all the sudden you are your own manager, director, VP, CEO - if you fall in the red you wont get paid regardless of if you put 40 or 80 hours into the week. The key for 9 to 5 is setting boundaries to not burn yourself out and to enjoy the small things (like listening to an audiobook during the commute, etc etc). If a passion project or hobby on the side turns into a full time job with enough profit then maybe it makes sense to jump over. Also real pay wise, on top of a yearly salary in the US, full-time jobs usually give health/dental/life/disability insurance so without the 9 to 5 you have to pay out of pocket for insurance all the sudden (aka really its your paycheck plus however much that insurance costs full-price when you aren't getting a big company discount).
I. Am. Miserable. I currently work 7-5 for a start-up doing so much more than the job posting called for. It didn't even say it was a start-up, nor did it say i would be a team lead. My job title isn't even the same. Im so ready to quit, but it's so hard finding another job. Especially since i dont want to give up working from home, which is really the only benefit. I'm not living, I'm just living to pay bills cause I'm too mentally drained and depressed to do anything after work and the weekends i just want to enjoy the peace. I want to make a change, but im not sure what i want to do yet. Best of luck to everyone out there who is also struggling like this.
As a teacher, the hours for me are more like 6am - 6pm. Even so i wake up at 4am to eat, shower, prep lunch and then im out at 5:30am to get to school. Also often you Mark books etc. When you get home.. honestly i sometimes regret choosing the profession but I'm just trying to focus on finding joy in the small things nowadays.
Going back to the 9 to 5 life because I was an entrepreneur for over six years and it completely burned me out. During those six years, I did not get to save her retirement or really save money at all. I put everything in my business and in the end, it really didn’t take off, this isn’t to say that entrepreneurship is bad but what it does say is that you need a very strong plan and foundation underneath you before you become an entrepreneur. If you do not have some form of foundation and safety will make you show up in your business differently, because you then operate from a place of survival, thereby turning your passion into something stressful that needs to produce money. Keep your 9 to 5, create boundaries, and leave jobs and situations that don’t suit your lifestyle.
I personally work as a car painter (female btw), from 7 to 5 (Monday to Thursday) and 7 to 1pm (Friday). That’s what’s making the job easier for me. It’s still 40 hours, but my colleagues and especially my boss are extremely supportive, and therefore the work conditions make it easier. Weekend feels like 3 days
And most companies don't even allow less days/hours. That's the problem. I really would do my work hours in 4 days and then have 3 consecutuve days free - but i'm not allowed.
When my salary goes up in a couple years I’m planning to do a 4 day week instead. Working 4 days instead of 5 for the same money and a better work / life balance…
I work an 8 to 5, with a 1 hour break. I actually will be working more hours come May because my part time isn't enough anymore to live on. It's sort of sad, but at the same time I will have more structure in life and more money in the bank. And I still have 1 day a week free. The profit thing is so true, even in my job (I work in an elderly home). They say it's about the people, and on some level it is, but they also need to make money in order to stay in business. "Don't work on the weekends." Oh, I really wish I was able to say that. 😂😂 I do get paid for working weekends but I wouldn't mind earning a little bit less and having all weekends off.
Being self employed requires a lot of hard work as well and comes with a lot of different emotions like stress and anxiety because you depend on yourself only. Influencers will never tell you how their reality really looks like.And work hours can be long as it is a lot of work for many people to manage own company. The idea that being self employed requires only a few hours of work os a myth. 9 to 5 job is draining only when you hate what you do or hate the company you work for. 9 to 5 jobs have a lot of benefits as well. Everybody needs to chose for themselves.
I quit my 9-5 every day. I quit it at 10 pm. And rejoin it at 11:55am when i have to commute to it to start at 1pm. Everything else is sleep, dinner/breakfast, hygiene/chores, and focusing on literaly anything else.
Full time jobs are not bad but the problem is working a minimum of 8 hours a day (with or without commute) sucks.This leaves little to no time for family ,fun and social relationships . We should have reduced work hours instead of working the same hours our parents and grandparents did. With improved tech and automation the goal should be smart to achieving the same level of productivity with reduced manual labour hours. Instead corporates use tech and automation only to keep maximizing profits beyond what is necessary and show no concern to the pressures of the workforce.
I also think it’s been normalised to be a workaholic or be career driven and ambitious. Well that just involves working and being successful at work? What about those of us that doesn’t want their life to revolve around work? And place more emphasis on friends and family and joy
Correct me if I am wrong but the 9-5 by Ford is actually brilliant at the time because he noticed working MORE doesn't equal productivity as people are more work efficiently when they are better rested. People back then used to work 12hr per day, and even more. TLDR The 9-5 was introduced because Ford found out less work time meant better productivity with the technology at the time. With current tech, doesn't it meant lesser would also be better?
I love my 8 to 5 work. It is draining but it is fulfilling. My salary is enough to give 10% to church, 10% savings, 10% investing, 40% for my needs and 20% for my wants. I just work heavy for 10 months. I am a teacher by the way.
I'm from Malaysia and worked as a sales manager in a shopping mall from 10.00am to 10.00pm 6 days per week. So I really envy those people who have their working hours from 9-5 and have 2 days rest per week 🤣
Coming from an immigrant background where I have seen my parents working 60+ hours work, 7 days a week doing manual labor, working 9 to 5 at an office is a dream. This whole debate criticizing 9 to 5 seems a very entitled, first-world problem.
I think people just understand nowadays how big the world is. With social media and everything, they understand how the system works, and they don't want to be slaves anymore. I personally want a good life too, especially when I see how the government is throwing out my hard-earned money. Why am I supposed to struggle my whole life?
I have spent 12 out of my 14 working years in corporate. I spent 2 lucky years in a small, 4-people big digital agency and it was a dream job that paid ludicrous money, which Covid took from me. So I went back to the corporate 9-5, which in my case, was to have at least some financial stability in my life. Nothing else. 9-5s are designed to keep you at bay, with just enough energy, finances, and willpower to keep going. Not to thrive.
So could relate what u talked about in this video..i am in the same age group and I too graduated around same time ...ur words did give comfort ..subscribed to ur channel 😊
Genuinely enjoyed ths video and the concise, informative manner in which you laid out your thoughts, but felt a bit cheated, because while you talked about the negatives of adhering to a strict 9-5, you didn't at all mention what you promised in the title -- how to live a great life with a boring 9-5 job? So it's a dislike from me.
We should also consider that 9-5 was made for men who had a woman at home doing all of their cooking and cleaning and taking care of the kids - this is not the case nowadays. We have to work 9-5 AND do the household stuff which just doesn't match.
Exactly
Perhaps this is true, but it's time to quit that thinking, after all nobody is forcing women to work. I have plenty of colleagues who did not come back to work after children becuase they didn't want to. And plenty of them who have children and working and thta is their personal choice.
Yep, I call it my second shift 😭
yes. Working women work everywhere more than anyone else.
@@scube6748 that’s why women have to choose wisely who they marry, they need a provider and a protector so they can take care of themselves and the kids, women also don’t have so much testosterone as men, they are not biologically wired to work as much as men… this women/men equality thing is kind of a scam and detrimental to women…
You don’t need a 9-to-5 when you’ve got Girl Boss Hustle: Earn 10k from Home. It’s time to start thriving, not just surviving.
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The problem is that the 9 to 5 drains you of all of your energy, there’s no time left for other passions, truth is we need less working hours per day, we’re working ourselves to death
And trying to explain this to my bf is like pulling teeth because i tend to shut down when i get overwhelmed. This 9-5 sucks all my energy out and i cant even put effort into the craft that will set me free from a 9-5.
This is exactly what the problem is, and I don’t understand how the world doesn’t change that. These hours came long before we had computers and everything was slower, now everything is faster, they should remove 2 hours from our working hours.
@@NadaAlawadhi I’d say 4 hours workdays are doable for office jobs, the rest of the time spent there is just wasted anyway…after that productivity goes down significantly…
I don’t know if I totally agree. Respectfully, if youre too exhausted from work to enjoy home life, then you’re investing too much energy at work. I work full time as a nurse, hold strong boundaries, and still get home with plenty of energy to spend with my family (which includes 4kids: ages 14, 12, 10, and 1). I’ll admit it took me time and lots of practice to get here but it is possible!
@@yangiemouie how many hours a day do you work? The usual 9-5 is actually 9-6 (1h lunch break) if you count commute and getting ready it’s 8 to 7 best case scenario, when do you find time and energy to spend with kids, clean, cook, shower???? I don’t even have time to date, not to speak of raising children…
Work from home, no kids, no commute, job that I literally stop thinking about the moment I leave my desk. Took ten years to get here but now I'm financially stable, stress free and work is 10% of my life mentally. And I got here working 9-5 office jobs 😂 love my job, why would I want the stress of being a content creator, business owner or freelancer!? I'm enjoying crazy privileges right now. Very grateful for my 9-5.
well, you make the best of 9 to 5. everyone would love to be in your position.
That is amazing! And by curiosity, what do you do for a living?
Are you a libra
And you should be as everything isn't for everybody.
Agreed!
Completely agree with this video. 9-5 can be soul sucking at times but not all of us can just quit for our passions. Our families depend on us to work to pay the bills. But looking at our 9-5 as a means to an end, to fund our future freedom and passions really makes it more bearable and actually more grateful for our jobs. It’s all about perspective.
add on commute time, the time it takes to make your lunch, being stuck in traffic...a 9-5 hardly ever stays a 9-5. that was the big thing that bothered me in every job i worked and why i eventually left!
Nice, I'm glad to hear you managed to make it work after leaving 9-5 :)
Same here, lol, my 9-5 was more like 7:30 to 6:30😂
My job is not even 9-5😂 it’s 8-5 because lunch time doesn’t count. So with prep and commute, it’s like 6-6 in my life or 7-8 depending on when the lunch is prepared. That’s like 12 hours gone for just work itself. And with sleep and dinner and chores and chatty time with family, I either have no time for my family or no time for myself or no time for sleep 😅
Same for me, it's 6 to 6 for me PLUS prepping for the day after, cooking etc.
Yeah commuting sucks, but it’s not as painful nowadays with phones. I listen to videos on yt, if I’m not on Spotify or Audible. Having a good sound system helps big time.
Okay so I’ve been working for 7 years and I’m still trying to figure out how to balance my life and my hobbies and everything and I often get burnt out. But a tip that helps is to always make sure not to skip your meals at work. I usually come home from work exhausted unable to do anything but to hang out in bed until sleep time. But I found out it’s because I don’t eat at work. At all. Which is stupid I know. So don’t skip your meals. If you eat early quick breakfast, never skip lunch. You come home and you don’t feel like a zombie. And hang in there ❤️
i love that you're addressing this. i just filmed my own take on this a couple of days ago, after having quit my 9-5 job last year. while i haven't regretted that decision once, it (as in trying to build a business and a channel on my own) has reaaally taken a toll on my mental health. while i still love what i get to do, being my own boss has definitely taught me to appreciate the pros of the 9-5 life, and to stop judging people who take that for what it is and just be happy with it.
there's always two sides of the coin, you just gotta choose the coin you identify with the most
I'm a freelancer today and make good money. So yeah, my story has a happy end. But when I did 9-5 ... Is this an American thing? Because in Europe the jobs start at 8, not at 9, but whatever. I had to wake up at 6:30, eating breakfast, washing up, running to the bus, came to work at 8. Until I didn't want to drive myself (gas is expensive, your car will wear out), I had to wait for the bus in the evening. I came back around 6:30. So like many others say: it's 12 hours work. Then you prepare a meal, eat something - and watch TV. What else do you do? People with children may care for the children, but I wasn't in the mood to do anything than watching TV. I once had a new job in a new town, that I started in Winter. I kid you not, when spring came, I felt like suddenly living in a different place, because the first time I COULD SEE THE TOWN. I was waking up when it was still dark, and went home when it was still dark. I then discovered a nice café I didn't even know it was there, since in the dark I couldn't see it. Imagine that you aren't even aware of the place you live in, because you weak up so early and go home so late.
The 9-5 is just a general term here for a 5 day a week 40 hr work week
It's NEVER 9-5, especially in tech. Most people work 55+ hours a week in the US. This includes evenings, weekends, and holidays. And this is not including commute, meal prop, personal stuff.. So yes, not worth it. The 9-5 term is so outdated 😆
I live in America and it’s mostly 8-5pm. Idk who came up with 9-5pm. 🤷🏻♀️
"In Brazil, the work hours are from 7:30 AM to 5:30 PM."
In Argentina, working hours vary widely, ranging from 6 to 12 hours daily. Part-time typically means 6 hours, while full-time can extend from 9 to 12 hours, depending on the industry. On-site architects work Monday to Friday, 7 AM to 7 PM, plus Saturdays from 7 AM to 2 PM. Bricklayers and plumbers usually work 8 AM to 5 PM, Saturdays 8 AM to 1 PM. Architects in studios work 9 AM to 7 PM, often with remote work. Government architects have a 35-40 hour workweek but low wages, leading to multiple side jobs. IT admins follow a 9 AM to 6 PM schedule with on-call duties. Doctors and nurses work 12-hour shifts, six days a week. A standard full-time week is 48 hours, though this mainly applies to employees, not freelancers with university degrees who lack strict hour limits.
I think it’s wild how women are expected to work full time and have kids - and if you don’t still work when you have kids you’re seen as a failure.. there’s a REASON housewives used to be only housewives with no other jobs. It feels impossible to work, take care of yourself and body, your house, children, let alone any time for social life, rest, dating or engaging in HOBBIES AND INTERESTS. It’s so depressing
Which is why i want to launch my business. Its the only way out to me. 😪
It’s literally impossible and then we always feel like we’re failing
@@latifahshakur5466 agreed! I think in generations to come corporations are going to have to change the way they work or people will jsut leave. Working for yourself seems like the only good option and I think the younger generation sees that. It’s going to create problems for companies that need workers down the track.
@@eleanorhenderson9896 Yes, and i don’t see us being safe in the long run without any investments, emergency funds and a well paying business. 😩
Try working full time, managing a house and yard, self care, 2 kids and an elderly parent...and being single with no help.At least it's not boring and I feel i can do almost anything in this world!😂
9 to 5 is too many working hours, it's exhausting over a long time. if only we can shift to part time work being more normalized and still able to pay the bills we'd all be much better with our health and fulfillment in life
Interesting that you mentioned about part-time. What's your ideal work life looks like?
Yes, part time should be the new full time
Totally agree with this!
If I’m an employer paying for you to have medical, dental, and 401k or pension, along with a nice salary. I have product that i need to get produced and out the door to clients and I hired you because of your expertise. Do you think it would be fair to me that you are allowed to only work part time and no weekends? I really want you to think about the question before answering..
I hope that 4 day work week gets traction here
I love my 8:30-4:30! My office is a 20 min walk/ 5min cycle from home. I take an hour lunch where I can browse the local shops, read in the park etc. We recieve yearly raises tied to the CPI and I also love the work I do, while corporate services takes care of all the business parts that I have no interest in!
What do you do for a living?
When I started 9-5 straight out of college, I immediately found myself unable to keep up with taking care of myself….i was so drained and I could barely go to the doctor or or dentist if I needed to! Wtf! I couldn’t imagine how people with spouses and children do it….still to this day I don’t get how it’s possible to do it. At least happily. There is just not enough time in the days. Super wild. I don’t get it and I never will. I am 26 years old and I am scared to ever have a child because I don’t think I can manage working and raising a child at the same time. And some people have 3+ children…….I don’t know if I am lazy or these people are just mentally strong and caffeine addicted??? Again, maybe they’re doing it, but I don’t think they’re doing it happily??
I literally feel the exact same way! I have no clue how people with children do it. Hence, why I do not have children. It seems like all you would do would be work..
You are not lazy! Its not possible to be healthy and happy if you work fulltime, have a spouse and kids on top of taking care of yourself, cooking, cleaning, and maintaining your lawn.
What's strange is that most doctors office operate during normal business hours. Crazy. Like how is one suppose to make all necessary appointments when working a normal work schedule. PCP, dentist, chiropractor, etc etc.
@@fireplacefaithyes!!! I was thinking that the other day.
I once babysat for a family were both parents worked and they had 3 children. Honestly, it made me not want to have children if I have to work full time.
Unfortunately, there are many of us who struggle financially and cannot support our hobbies and passions with the money we make from our 9-5 jobs. As you mentioned at the beginning of the video, everyone's reality is different. As someone in my forties, I use weekends to clean and do chores I didn't have time for during the week, and I spend time with my kids. As I get older, my energy level is lower, so I barely keep my head above water. Passions? I don't have the time or energy for them. And that is just so sad....
I hear you! I have seen my parents in the same boat. And while I do not know your specific financial situation, everyone definitely can benefit from having a strong budgeting system. Depending the size of your family and home, sacrificing one or two nights of eating out might total the same as hiring house cleaners at least once a month. It might sound like an unnecessary luxury, but it truly helps with the stress and energy cost of having an unclean home
@@HolisLoliss I understand where you are coming from and I agree. But you can only save and cut the budget if you earn above your basic needs ( like rent,utilities,etc ),right? If you earn less and yoi cannot even meet your basic needs,then there is a problem. And usually it is a circle from which it is very hard to get out of.
"Don't work on the weekends because that's not what you're paid to do. You need to pursue your personal goals as well. Setting boundaries at work is a skill in itself because sometimes you feel guilty. But once you understand that the company's goal is just to make profit, it will completely change how you view your 9 to 5."
"In order to have a passion that pays the bills, it's got to be something that you love but also something that you are good at or relatively good at and at the same time, something that people are willing to pay for."
"I'm all about doing what you love, living the life that you want. But I feel like just quitting 9 to 5 with no backup plan at all is actually a privilege."
My commute time is 4 hrs a day - I can’t afford to live closer to work. I only go into the office 3 days a week, but I absolutely resent that third day. I think 2 days makes sense for team building and collaboration etc but the 3rd day has zero value add and had a net negative affect on my life. This is my biggest struggle witu a 9-5. The ‘need’ to be in the office for no good reason. I am happier and healthier when I am not in the office. I sleep better, I eat better because I’m at home and can make fresher food, I get more rest, I’m able to exercise in daylight hrs, practise my hobbies.
The corporate world really needs to re-evaluate their priorities when it comes to their workers
That s crazy,commute time only is a full time job,can u find something closer?
@@Godspit6066not OP but I know her pain. Where I'm from, traffic is absolutely crazy, that a place less than 3km from my house takes me 1.5-2 hrs to commute to, one way. I don't really want to relocate since I like my place, but I also don't really want to switch jobs since I like my job. The commute ends up something you just accept 🥲
Also, same! My Job requires us to go to work 3x a week, but I find that 3 is already excessive. We really only need to meet 2x a week, and I find that even then, most of the time spent in the office is just for socializing
@@hurmaes wow,if I were u,I would start working on something else.
@@Godspit6066 thanks, but it's not just a me problem, it's a nation-wide problem. Commute time isn't because I live far, it's because the roads & public transpo suck, so even if I work at a different company, I'd still have to endure the horror of commuting
No one I know works only 9-5. Most people work 8-5 or 9-6 with no option to take a shorter lunch to go home earlier. I get up at 6:30, get myself ready, get my kids up and ready. Leave by 7/7:10, take the kids to daycare. Leave daycare by 7:30/7:40 to get to work right before 8 am. I work all day, often through lunch through no choice of my own because I am salary. Then I leave at 5 ( if I am lucky) then race over to daycare to pick up my kids by 5:45. ( daycare closes at 6 so I have no idea what I would do if I had to work 9-6). Then we get home by 6. I make dinner and we eat by 7pm. Then we start our bedtime routine. Bath, pajamas, teeth, a story and bed by 8 pm. Then I have from 8pm to 10 pm to clean, do dishes, laundry, pick up and prep my lunch and stuff for the next day. Then bed at 10pm to start it all over the next day. I hardly see my husband.
People may romanticize quitting the nine to five, but at the same time it’s not just 9-5. It’s everything else and to sacrifice so much of my life for a company that would replace me the next day if I died and hardly seeing or spending time with the family that knows I’m irreplaceable. It’s painful. Not to mention even in our dual income household we can hardly afford to pay all of our bills and we get less than 15 days of PTO/sick time per year. Which we have to ration between myself and my husband in case the kids get sick and can’t go to school. We have no time for a vacation, no time for fun, and can hardly afford to pay all the bills it takes to live and raise our kids.
I don’t fault anyone for trying to make a go of doing some thing they love, I wish I had the freedom to try and chase those dreams, but my kids are my dream and doing what is best for them is more important than any “career” I could ever have.
I work 9-5 but most days i come in 15min late and leave early if my boss is not at the office. Sounds like you have a lack of boundaries plus an unhelpful spouse.
Came to the comments looking for if anyone else was making the 9-5 vs 8-5 comment. Every office job I’ve ever worked at had an 8-5 schedule and I don’t know of anyone who is 9-5.
@@SusanNicole2.0 yeah for me as well its more of a 7-4p but depending on the day, i will go home earlier or later. I test the water early on in employment. And id they don't say anything i keep my own hours which are usually max 40h per week.
Does your husband help you with the house and food?
There are pros and cons to 9-5 and self-employed life. You just need to think what you want, what you need and what's your personality type to pick a life you can sustain long-term.
You might think you hate your 9-5 but you just might need to make small changes to your schedule or things you do in your off time to make it a more fulfilling life. Self-emplyoment is not all sun and roses. With so much online work, there is much fiercer competition and it might be hard to succeed quickly after you quit your 9-5.
No, you just need to change it to a 9-1 and have a life outside work! Everything is so automated and going hundred miles an hour, we need to slow down…
@@zencityvibes i agree. Everyone is hustling, chasing money and burning out. I dont think Ive met anyone who has hobbies or interests outside of work in the past three years. Its so sad
It's not just about the work itself. I work 40 hours a week and before the pandemic I had to go to the office every day. That means I commuted 1.5 hours every day. In the evening I had 4 hours to myself before I had to go back to bed. Cook? Workout? Nope. I was way too exhausted. Since the pandemic, I only have to go to the office twice a week. This is much better. But it doesn't work in every profession. Of course my job also has advantages. Always free on weekends. End of work by 5 p.m. at the latest. Social insurance etc.
I have written my resignation letter for June 2024, i am tired of this job, micromanaging & toxic boss, and the worst part is her cousin is our co-worker, so it's 2 related people against me. Nothing i do is ever good enough. Nothing is ever appreciated, nor my hard work acknowledged.
Always being punished with even more work and not being paid for it, no PTO, no sick leave, no family responsibility leave, i have been working everyday for 3yrs and i am tired. Some jobs are not worth it
Sounds like you should run asap! good luck!
Finally a realistic advice from a person with experience, it's not all about chasing clout and hustling it's more about listening to your own mind and body and really having that internal monologue about your desires and future aspirations, disconnecting yourself from the digital noise.
I agree especially with the part that we must see the difference between the company’s goals and mine. And I can keep careful track of how I spend time in every part of my own life.
Definitely agree with your points. I have a part-time 9-5 (24h a week) and even though it’s definitely not my passion, I know I am good at what I do and I appreciate my steady income. I would only quit my 9-5 if I had a business/side hustle that has been consistently making the same amount of money over a period of time. No leaps in the dark possible in the economy we live in 😅
Exactly right, this economy is 🤮
I've been working the "9-5" my whole life. (more like 8-5 with an hour for lunch). I moved jobs every couple of years for more pay. My job allows for flexible schedules so I work 730am-330pm, with 30 minute lunches. It's amazing what that shift in work hours has done for my home life. More employers should embrace this. My full job pays the bills and I pursue my hobbies and free time after work and on the weekends.
When I started looking at my job as a means to "buy" me some free time, I didn't mind going to work. I have employer paid healthcare and retirement, that's also a plus you don't get with being an entrepreneur.
I totally agree. I tried doing a business for a year and it was so exhausting, I was not even making 1000 a month, yet working all day every day, no weekend, no holiday. I'd rather work 9-5 and make enough to enjoy my freetime
Good on you for trying it out, though. We've all really been sold a pipe dream with that, I did the same thing and I just couldn't handle the instability of it - some months 1500, others 300! I really missed the pros of 9-5 life, the consistency and tbh the social element. It's far from perfect, but there are lots of good companies out there and flex initiatives are becoming more normal
thank you for this video :) you put into words something i've been thinking about a lot, realising and accepting the company's goals being different from your own can be so freeing !! being able to 'leave' work and enjoy the weekend / evening without overtime is so important
I love that you made this video. I’m someone that pursued my academic career and have worked 9 to 5 jobs continuously, while creating my business. So I currently work a 9 to 5 career job and I still have a business going and it’s legally been for years, but I’ve been doing this business for six years. I am definitely reaching that point, though where I need to put more hours into my business to earn as much as I would like to earn from it, but I still want to grow my 9-to-5 career enough that if I ever left, I could come back and still get a good paying job. I will say though, with the 9 to 5 there really is little to no work life balance unless you are remote or hybrid. When I was remote completely, I could get more things done, but now that I am hybrid, it is a lot harder to get things completed. And it takes so much time to travel to work, they make us pay for parking, they definitely don’t even give us a 5% raise, yearly, and where I work, they don’t pay that well either. But they have great benefits… So it’s interesting what this life is turning into when it comes to working and I’m curious to see where it continues to go.
If I were to start a business this would 100% be the way I'd go about it, big round of applause for you to have made it work so far. By now you should have a good feel of the trajectory of your business though and whether or not it's worth the risk of putting more time into it and leave 9-5? And I can't believe they make you pay for parking that's just rude!
@@reinventingpoppy thank you! I’m trying to keep going whenever I want to give up. And yes, I believe it is very rude that they make us pay for parking and then tell us we have to come into office. I kind of got a good grasp on my earning potential right now… I’m trying to add in products because I’m a hairstylist as my business. So since it depends a lot on the amount of services that I can do, I want to add in products to help increase revenue. So I think once I successfully implement product production and selling, then I would reevaluate if I am able to leave my 9 to 5.
I'm in the same boat! Current hybrid schedule and we have to pay for parking when we go in twice a week. I I've always had goals to be in business for myself so I've been steadily building my own practice outside of my 9-5. I haven't yet decided if I will stay for the benefits/ connections or go full entrepreneur. Deep down, I want to shoot for the latter but we'll see what unfolds. For you, I am hoping it gets better! Reminder to put your best interest and wellness first! Best of luck to you in your business!!
I have 8to 5 job with 1 hour lunch, and I love it! For person who worked around 10years with work schedule every other weekend and very long hours that I knew what time I have to clock in, but didn’t know when is off, I am happy now with my job. Now for a person who wants to be a content creator or start a business better have plan B, C and D and a good savings to be able to support themselves try that period of starting it. Good luck to everyone ❤
Thank you!!! my 9-5 bought me so much stuff that was related to my passion over the last year that now I need a new passion
I work a 7a-7p job 6 days a week. No breaks. It also takes me an hour to get home or get to work. I’m ready to QUIT! I am sooo burnt out and have NO time for myself or family. I can appreciate your video but I’m done lol
My 9 to 5 job really sucks, but I have bills to pay. I'm drained from my job, and I don't have any energy to live my life. And I don't have any passion. Thank you for this video 🌼💛
I'm so sorry to hear that lovely. Have you explored and see if there are other opportunities out there?
I totally understand
@@reinventingpoppy I'm exploring.
@@Klara_is_finding_herselfgood on you and wish you the best of luck. Hope you can find something better and get out of the current job situation asap ❤
@@reinventingpoppy Thank you 💛
Completely agree with the idea that you should consider your commute time as your working time. Currently I work from home and I got an interview for an office position. It would take me to 2 hours a day to commute, so the salary I should ask for is my current salary + 25% (to accomodate commute) + the raise I actually want to get
Your voice was calming. I was searching this topic out of frustration. Thanks.
My 8 till 5 job I was out of the house from 7am, didn’t get out of work until 5:25pm, had to go and shop for dinner things (no car, no deliveries back then) then pick up my son from nursery, get him in, get him changed and bathed, make everyone’s dinner, puts some laundry on, do the dishes, put son to bed then it would be 8pm and I would finally crash on the sofa. Next thing you know it’s bedtime. Apparently this was my free time to see friends, pursue hobbies or start a side business 😅
I work unpaid overtime every day including weekends. The big difference it made in the real wage woke me up to the fact that I need to make a change. Thanks for this!
Life has always been about survival. If you have a decent job, a roof over your head, and food on the table, you are doing better than most throughout history. When we were more agrarian you would be working from sun up to sun down in the fields. When we became industrialized you would be working ridiculous hours in horrific conditions. If you lived through the great depression era frugality was your life, you weren't "having experiences." Then came a 30-40 year period post WWII where dad went to work and mom stayed home, but women didn't want that so here we are, working age men and women fighting over a very finite amount of decent jobs that elude most of us. Life ain't fair and the world is mean so if you are warm, dry, and not suffering from hunger pangs count your blessings. Heck, I'd love a 9-5 schedule with consistent sleep every night, that would be amazing.
Amen.
Finally a logical comment.
Hi! I took the time to be grateful for the privilege of being able to quit. I can see how I showed some ungratefulness during the time I was working. I was in a work situation where I was expected to work with overtime, with no overtime pay and I absolutely hated it. My anxiety flew threw the roof and I am grateful I had the opportunity to quit, heal, and recuperate. I've learned to value the interview process. I also romanticized starting a business and realized that working overtime in my own business is the way to go because of the passion I have. Find a career you are passionate about so that work feels somewhat less stressful and more fair. Thank you for the tips!
I love that for you! You need to look after yourself first, if your job starts to impact your mental health then it's absolutely a sign to part way and heal ❤
Being a neurodivergent ( highly sensitive) I tried the 8 to 3 once and the months that followed cause a lot of stomach problems, fatigue and stress sickness. I think neurodivergence should be taken into consideration that 9 to 5 is physically and cognitivel tiring. Hence, many EU companies and in Europe in general are establishing 4 hours instead o 8 hours and 5 days maximum ( if I remember it correctly). Or some have a 4 day program with 6 hours. It is shown to work better for employees.
20 hours a week is not a full time job here in Europe😊 Depending on a country's laws, it's around 35-40 hours a week. Some countries or some companies implement a 4-day work week or a 7-hour workday (instead of an 8-hour one). Plus I think work commute in Europe tends to be much shorter, and with most types od legal employment you must be granted certain rights like healthcare access 😊
@@wyclefohara4169 commute depends on the country or place of work. I have friends that spend 4 hours on the bus to go to work and return. Also heaIthcare access is a work right, you are totally right about it. also think that Ireland and Denmark really consider into deducing work hours in half - some companies in Europe did it and it worked for them. I think that 5hours per day might be the best for our bodies since we have more time to rest and do things that relax us.
I am also neurodivergent and I’ve always known I will not be able to survive a traditional 9-5, 40-hour work week (which is terrifying because I know that I will need to survive). Even some part time jobs have really burnt me out and I end up leaving because I’m physically and mentally in shambles. There’s so little flexibility out there.
@@brisbreathing I couldn't agree more! I think being a freelancer is a lot better for neurodivergent people
Thanks for the insight on this topic. I've been freelance/work at home for a while. I actually wish I had a 9-5 just for the stability. But I know the grass on the other side isn't always greener.
That's a great tip to stop focusing on tasks at work that don't truly move the needle when it comes to our performance. Loved this (and your hair!)
such a refreshing point of view! I really appreciate this video.
I love my 9 to 5 but what made me watch is that I also have the problem of constantly overtiming, either to cover sick leaves (I’m luckily never sick) or having way to many targets to hit and the pressure to do a great job. So I could relate, also I love making Excel sheets pretty, hahaha. Thank you for the great tips!
I don’t remember my mother ever being exhausted & she was a single mom, had 2 jobs. Our home was always clean. She said the food was healthier. She never ate out. She also said she didn’t have a cellphone distracting her every 5 minutes 😮
Good points
I feel like back then people just appreciated what they had and didn’t have the internet to compare their lives to everyone else, this is why people are so filled with depression these days. Comparison is the thief of joy
@@canders207You are totally right. That's why I want to find a part time job, start and small bussiness and live my life with what I have, it's the best solution, not all we born to be millonaries and Social Media sell us this, that "we can have whatever we want" that's fake.
I think as parents we sometimes hide the exhaustion from our children. Doesn’t mean those moments we didn’t see didn’t exist.
This was really helpful since I just started a new job - quite literally around the same time you uploaded this video !!! Huh !!! It’s my first, real, 9-5 job that gives all the corporate vibes. I really want to prove to myself that I can handle it, but I also don’t want to get to a point to where I lose myself in the process. Thanks for this video. It’ll keep me grounded.
I wish I had seen this video when indeed the 9-5 (which actually felt like 9-9) job was exploiting the soul out of me. Super good advice. Thank you so so much for your content!
I’ve always had a huge gripe with corporate 9-6 life in general. Then, I have a dream to create content and work for myself instead of following someone else’s rules and timing, approval. It contradicts what I value most, my freedom and independence. Honestly, I don’t know how to find balance between having autonomy over my career without resorting to a typical 9-6 job and a life where I don’t let my schedule be dictated by someone else who just wants to make profit. I feel so… conflicted and frustrated here. I do need a stable income right now and I’m looking for a new job.
I have one of those said-passion 9-5 (more like 8-6) jobs (i'm a graphic designer) and it really killed all my other creative hobbies, because my creativity has burnt out during the work hours. My dream would be to be a full time illustrator (which i think 90% of the time is a freelance type of job, it's really rare to just be an inhouse/agency illustrator only there would always be other tasks to do as well) but i have no energy and creative juices left in me to start that business on the side... It really is a vicious circle. I have thought of doing a non-creative 9-5 but I have no other experiences for any of these jobs... I had tried to be 80% (4 day week but with less pay obviously) and it was life changing personaly but way harder financially.
I am in the same position. I thought It was just me, I like drawing but know I don't have energy even to even practice, or study languages, it is just like my brain doesn't absorb the information. 😢
10000% I hate the way people bash a stable job these days but we really should appreciate having stable income!
your voice is so soothing. im in love.
I feel like with remote jobs you can get pressured to work after hours or weekends since you’ll have what you need at home
I got a job at a local daycare that operates as an eight hour workday but 7:50 AN to 3:50 PM, five minutes from my house but in a very small town. I find myself wishing I had tried harder to get a job in the city, I proper 9 to 5, but then I think about the way that people are commuting and they lose time on that and I have nothing to lose
So framing my thinking that way makes me feel more grateful for what I do have in the hours I can spend after work.
I needed to hear this. You spoke to me in regard to my work, evaluating my worth and my company's goal which is really to make profit. All this makes me feel used. I can't afford to quit either at the moment.
I went from being in a junior management position to a admin position because I hated the responsibilities. I also had a very toxic boss and team.It is not about what you do at times. It is who you do it with. If you have a toxic work environment please change it. Life is a blessing and we shouldn't be miserable.
I am in a new team which are a lot better. My new boss can be a challenge but less toxic. I believe in romantisicing my office job. I find ways to make myself happy. I do miss my 7montb old baby when I am at work but I tell myself I am doing the work for her. I plan to try start a small side hustle to make more income so hopefully one day I can work less but for now I will find peace in my daily routine.
Do what you are contracted to do. Let your Yes be Yes and Your No be No. No weekends. Great advice. Tfs
I’m glad someone is talking about this. Too many things are romanticized and no one tells people the behind the scenes impact
I quitted my 9-5 about 3 years ago, but I like your advice. Thank you 😀
My pay raise was horrible, but the company 's culture is so addictive. i am feeling the 50:50% leaving vs staying. :(
Yeah I agree, I feel like people don't talk about this as much, I've been working on seeing my 9 to 5 in a more positive light and setting boundaries to not overwork. Work is work, reality is that we have to work to make money and at the end of the day, at least the 9 to 5 pays you each paycheck, starting your own business all the sudden you are your own manager, director, VP, CEO - if you fall in the red you wont get paid regardless of if you put 40 or 80 hours into the week. The key for 9 to 5 is setting boundaries to not burn yourself out and to enjoy the small things (like listening to an audiobook during the commute, etc etc). If a passion project or hobby on the side turns into a full time job with enough profit then maybe it makes sense to jump over. Also real pay wise, on top of a yearly salary in the US, full-time jobs usually give health/dental/life/disability insurance so without the 9 to 5 you have to pay out of pocket for insurance all the sudden (aka really its your paycheck plus however much that insurance costs full-price when you aren't getting a big company discount).
I. Am. Miserable. I currently work 7-5 for a start-up doing so much more than the job posting called for. It didn't even say it was a start-up, nor did it say i would be a team lead. My job title isn't even the same. Im so ready to quit, but it's so hard finding another job. Especially since i dont want to give up working from home, which is really the only benefit. I'm not living, I'm just living to pay bills cause I'm too mentally drained and depressed to do anything after work and the weekends i just want to enjoy the peace. I want to make a change, but im not sure what i want to do yet. Best of luck to everyone out there who is also struggling like this.
9-5 is terrible!!!! We don't have enough time to pursue other interests, take care of our body, mind, house... And I don't even have a child yet...
As a teacher, the hours for me are more like 6am - 6pm. Even so i wake up at 4am to eat, shower, prep lunch and then im out at 5:30am to get to school. Also often you Mark books etc. When you get home.. honestly i sometimes regret choosing the profession but I'm just trying to focus on finding joy in the small things nowadays.
Going back to the 9 to 5 life because I was an entrepreneur for over six years and it completely burned me out. During those six years, I did not get to save her retirement or really save money at all. I put everything in my business and in the end, it really didn’t take off, this isn’t to say that entrepreneurship is bad but what it does say is that you need a very strong plan and foundation underneath you before you become an entrepreneur. If you do not have some form of foundation and safety will make you show up in your business differently, because you then operate from a place of survival, thereby turning your passion into something stressful that needs to produce money. Keep your 9 to 5, create boundaries, and leave jobs and situations that don’t suit your lifestyle.
I love your voice and accent. It’s very soothing ❤
Thank you ❤
Working 9-5 are the hours you work. How about the time spent going to work and coming home.
Many,many retail and restaurant workers would love a 9 to 5 no weekends.
I personally work as a car painter (female btw), from 7 to 5 (Monday to Thursday) and 7 to 1pm (Friday). That’s what’s making the job easier for me. It’s still 40 hours, but my colleagues and especially my boss are extremely supportive, and therefore the work conditions make it easier. Weekend feels like 3 days
I still can't believe we have to work 5 days a week, for 8 hours. Well, it's a choice I know but anything less than that, the pay wouldn't be enough.
And most companies don't even allow less days/hours. That's the problem. I really would do my work hours in 4 days and then have 3 consecutuve days free - but i'm not allowed.
When my salary goes up in a couple years I’m planning to do a 4 day week instead. Working 4 days instead of 5 for the same money and a better work / life balance…
My 9 to 5 job turned into a 10 to 4 one... I have slow mornings and hit the gym early. Can't complaint.
Does not sound bad at all!
Great choice of topic and great video. Keep up the good work 😊
Thank you! Will do!
I work an 8 to 5, with a 1 hour break. I actually will be working more hours come May because my part time isn't enough anymore to live on. It's sort of sad, but at the same time I will have more structure in life and more money in the bank. And I still have 1 day a week free.
The profit thing is so true, even in my job (I work in an elderly home). They say it's about the people, and on some level it is, but they also need to make money in order to stay in business.
"Don't work on the weekends." Oh, I really wish I was able to say that. 😂😂 I do get paid for working weekends but I wouldn't mind earning a little bit less and having all weekends off.
8/9 to 5 is not part-time
Could you make a video of your journey of becoming a Financial Controller please? I really enjoy watching your content and find it very relatable xx
Being self employed requires a lot of hard work as well and comes with a lot of different emotions like stress and anxiety because you depend on yourself only. Influencers will never tell you how their reality really looks like.And work hours can be long as it is a lot of work for many people to manage own company. The idea that being self employed requires only a few hours of work os a myth. 9 to 5 job is draining only when you hate what you do or hate the company you work for. 9 to 5 jobs have a lot of benefits as well. Everybody needs to chose for themselves.
Amen to that!
I quit my 9-5 every day. I quit it at 10 pm. And rejoin it at 11:55am when i have to commute to it to start at 1pm. Everything else is sleep, dinner/breakfast, hygiene/chores, and focusing on literaly anything else.
Full time jobs are not bad but the problem is working a minimum of 8 hours a day (with or without commute) sucks.This leaves little to no time for family ,fun and social relationships . We should have reduced work hours instead of working the same hours our parents and grandparents did. With improved tech and automation the goal should be smart to achieving the same level of productivity with reduced manual labour hours. Instead corporates use tech and automation only to keep maximizing profits beyond what is necessary and show no concern to the pressures of the workforce.
I also think it’s been normalised to be a workaholic or be career driven and ambitious. Well that just involves working and being successful at work? What about those of us that doesn’t want their life to revolve around work? And place more emphasis on friends and family and joy
I want to work from home badly. Preferably 3 days a week(do work for a boss 9/5) and good pay.
I can work every day but like can we make it 5-6 hours per day ? 😭
Correct me if I am wrong but the 9-5 by Ford is actually brilliant at the time because he noticed working MORE doesn't equal productivity as people are more work efficiently when they are better rested. People back then used to work 12hr per day, and even more.
TLDR The 9-5 was introduced because Ford found out less work time meant better productivity with the technology at the time. With current tech, doesn't it meant lesser would also be better?
I worked 40 hours at night with a call centre work when I first got into real estate. Did that for a year.
So happy I found this vid. Love your voice too.
Thank you so much for this video!! finally somoene down to earth!! ❤
I love my 8 to 5 work. It is draining but it is fulfilling. My salary is enough to give 10% to church, 10% savings, 10% investing, 40% for my needs and 20% for my wants. I just work heavy for 10 months. I am a teacher by the way.
We need a four-day work week. Weekends just fly by.
This was a wonderful video. I especially liked tip 3 on your real wage.
I'm from Malaysia and worked as a sales manager in a shopping mall from 10.00am to 10.00pm 6 days per week. So I really envy those people who have their working hours from 9-5 and have 2 days rest per week 🤣
My goal is to make money from content creation but it has been a learning curve to find time to do everything.
such an interesting point of view I totally agree with and yet see so often expressed online.
Thank you for your inspiring video!
In Canada 🇨🇦, they will going to do 4 hour work week.
Coming from an immigrant background where I have seen my parents working 60+ hours work, 7 days a week doing manual labor, working 9 to 5 at an office is a dream. This whole debate criticizing 9 to 5 seems a very entitled, first-world problem.
I think people just understand nowadays how big the world is. With social media and everything, they understand how the system works, and they don't want to be slaves anymore. I personally want a good life too, especially when I see how the government is throwing out my hard-earned money. Why am I supposed to struggle my whole life?
Could you talk about how you care for your skin? it looks amazing x
Thank you for the great video!! I hope you are feeling better ❤😊
I have spent 12 out of my 14 working years in corporate. I spent 2 lucky years in a small, 4-people big digital agency and it was a dream job that paid ludicrous money, which Covid took from me. So I went back to the corporate 9-5, which in my case, was to have at least some financial stability in my life. Nothing else. 9-5s are designed to keep you at bay, with just enough energy, finances, and willpower to keep going. Not to thrive.
100% agree with you
So could relate what u talked about in this video..i am in the same age group and I too graduated around same time ...ur words did give comfort ..subscribed to ur channel 😊
what about working for a nonprofit organization? how does this alter the alignment of company goals and employee goals?
What mic are you using? Your audio quality sounds so good
I wish I watched this sooner. I am super burned out from working 70-80 hrs per week and shit managers
I want to leave my 9-5 to try serving. I heard it’s less hours with no limit of pay
Genuinely enjoyed ths video and the concise, informative manner in which you laid out your thoughts, but felt a bit cheated, because while you talked about the negatives of adhering to a strict 9-5, you didn't at all mention what you promised in the title -- how to live a great life with a boring 9-5 job? So it's a dislike from me.