We live in a beautiful world with sick individuals. Sick individuals that demand to be loved in sick ways. Such as adding children and teddy bears to bdsm styled "clothing" and wanting other attention seekers to help them fill their endless psychological voids by dressing up as buffoons.
@@woiowoiow190 until a fucking meal that was thrown in the trash like chicken wings, marrow, salmon and lobster become luxury items and not fit for the poor's consumption
An inspiration but never a "trendsetter". I dealt with a microcosm of this while in art school(it was a state school and there was a clear delineation between the have-nots and the nepo babies who had resources and assistants but would try to conceal it), and I can't tell you how many times I'd say something only to have some rich schmuck say it louder and take credit for it, treated as a visionary.
_"They mock poor people's fashion until they patented it"_ , when you put a brand or status on it all of the sudden it's _worthy_ . Been having this thought process for a while. Thank you for the in-depth video.
yea like how poor peaople been saying thigns for YEARS, "conspracy theorys" but now BILLINAIR trump and musk talk about it NOW PEAOPLE LISTEN! but its like you COULD LEARNED THAT YEARS AGO BEFORE MUSK AND TRUMP SIED THAT!
You can't patent clothing lol. That's how zara and h&M, similar brands have been copying designers for decades and getting away with it. Also why LV puts their logo all over their bags because logos can't be copied.
@@NightmareRex6 Whaat evah es ya'll tarking abayalt? It aint poor people thad makes up conspirasays, burt rich powerful billinairs lark Musk an Trump thay ah liyars an cheats control social me daya.
My dad always says "Poor people always create the coolest shit, the most delicious food and have the best clothing, until the rich think they shouldn't and they steal everything" it happened with Salmon, Lobster, fucking beef marrow bones, washed out band t-shirts, boots that look worn out, ripped jeans, fucking rock music and many more things
As a poor person who was chronically homeless, this angers me when the rich cosplays our struggles like its a trend. It's fun and games being homeless until when they actually become homeless, then the trend and joke ain't so funny. By the way, excellent video, and you gained a subscriber. Keep up the good work.
I have a terrible attention span and usually listen to video essays while doing two or three other things. I watched this entire video without EVER thinking to pick up my game because of how well done it was. truly good work
Oh, let me dress like the poor and put on expensive perfume all the while disregarding the poor guy on the streets. Torn clothing were a trend in africa too only we didn't buy the actual thing(because who can afford that?) we made derivatives of them. Glad i didn't wear any of that. 🤦♂️
@DemureDarlings It's not even possible for a non rich person to become rich anyway, (and all "self made billionaires" got their start mostly thanks to papa's money) so I don't really see your point.
I think it's a good place to remind people to take rich people's struggles with a grain of salt. Because their thought process may very well be "poor people just live their fun poor lives and have no responsibilities like being paid a lot". I just recently came across a post of a person who thankfully wasn't the sharpest tool in the shed and blurted out straight that sometimes she wishes she grew up poorer thinking poor people have less responsibilities. More often you would hear "wow everything is so cheap in your country" from a person that you know makes 10 times more than you ever would just because they were born in another country.
I can find empathy for almost any situation but not this. This is a sign of not just being ignorant but straight up stupid and careless. They know money gets them places so logically having no money means it's harder because you're constantly figuring out how you're gonna pay for things you need, it means more responsibility and choosing which you can and cannot afford and how to make things work because you can't go buy what you need.
@@LavenderMike77Same with fucking western expats in the Philippines. Some of these guys are here saying shit is cheap, and are basically sex tourists. I remember looking at the philippine expat subreddit, and it's pretty gross
@@LavenderMike77eastern europe in general moment 🥹Ppl come to Romania for vacation meanwhile the average person here cant afford a vacation in their own country
I'm determined to make a career out of my writing and if I move into higher tax brackets I'm gonna be unapologetically loud about real struggle. Like I am over rich people, and I wouldn't care otherwise, but wealth shouldn't exist if children are starving in the richest country in the world. Disabled and sick people can't get the proper care. People can't afford the basics. No way lol.
Ironically, it is EXTREMELY difficult to find a pair of jeans today that are NOT distressed. It has become so normal that finding a pair of jeans even without faded coloring in some spots is hard. As someone who grew up in the lower middle class, it is extremely annoying and slap in the face to have to purchase faded jeans with holes because they cannot find any decent nondistressed ones when my family would work so hard to get us clothes without holes, proper clothes. I have found some brands now but, guess what? They aint cheap either.
I know this is so annoying... I have a hard time finding plain regular jeans with straight leg and no weird fading or holes on them.... The current trend is skinny leg jeans that are faded and dyed to look dirty and have holes on them...
I remember that time when I couldn't find any shorts that didn't have one of those hammer loops on them, like it's supposed to be a symbol of the working class. lol
Chav isn't actually a blanket term for young working class people, a chav is someone who embodies a certain confrontational, rude attitude usually paired with heavy drinking and general hooliganism.
When I had money, I felt no shame even when my payment card would be declined at the store. I would just say "oh, I used the wrong card", or something along the lines and laugh. But when I had no money, it was embarrassing to see my card declined at the store, as if the cashier was judging me for being poor. Perspective in life changes when you have money, and it's a struggle when you don't even in the exact same situations.
When i was child i used to think rich people must have high intellect and know about how to live life in much more meaningful way, but oh boy i was super wrong.
That clip of Khole and Kourtney complaining about a homeless person “rolling in dirt” at the front of their store isn’t surprising, but still so upsetting
Hmm, interesting. That may have worked at some point, but it won't now. Too many of us have been homeless before. And we'll never forget it. We'll know who's who.
Hopefully it will become fashionable and trendy for rich people to give all their money to poor communities and "live the real life" by being poor and "experiencing real life" by working and struggling to pay bills. Now THAT would be fashionable. Rich folks need to hurry up and get on that cool trend.
As someone who is poor & homeless, this is absolutely boggling my mind. I put so much effort into looking clean and presentable on a very limited budget and people are seriously spending the cost of groceries and several utility bills to look dirty..... 🙃
Rich people actually have to be some of the most idiotic people ever to buy this type of stuff when you can do it for FREE with minimal effort, if they’re so bored to spend $500+ on dirty worn clothes why not just dirty it and wear it down yourself?
Same. When I was homeless I took extra care to not show a single hint of it out of shame, embarrassment, and stigma. I cannot understand this trend at all. It blows my mind. I cannot understand.
@@AdawaShiwani How can they be so fiendishly clever in the ways they exploit the underpriviledged to amass and hoard resources, but so bafflingly stupid at things even the middleclass understand is common sense???? If it was up to the Habsburgs to run the world, the human species would be extinct in 3 generations.
I think it’s interesting how the fashion industry decides to never showcase the poverty and “raw” conditions it creates in other countries or immigrant communities.
i see this alot at my university, the upper class and middle class cosplaying as the poor by wearing thrifted clothing, trying to be more relatable. its frustrating because wearing those clothes is an option for them while a necessity for others.
100% this. Even had a uni student go on passive aggressive tirade about how hard their life is and apparently I meant they were so 'spoiled' when I casually disclosed I'd been homeless escaping dv/fv (relevant to tutorial discussion).... not the reaction I was expecting but makes sense. I'm a super-commuter from the country, first in the family and this person is an inner city individual from relative wealth that doesn't fit their political aesthetic (socialist grunge). But they went to a 'bad school'. Like.... I'm like 8 zones away from the city campus. People in the city don't even know my general area it's so far. Lol. Being priced out of my town, rents going up by 30%, cost of living + public transport/private cost, can't afford to show I have 10k upfront to get a city rental because I can't save enough, unable to get a job due to commute... and even if I quit uni can't work in my skillset due to physical injury that needs time and specialists to help heal. Outside my skillset/experience in my small town, not a lot of jobs, 50+ people for one job interview, they prefer the ones with relevant experience. Not even the employment place has been able to find me work.... I'm trying to build a better life for myself but I can't keep going days without food, sleep and medicine. Part time study means I don't get the meagre student assistance that doesn't even cover rent and bills. I worked so hard to get here, academically successful, the staff sneak me museli bars and juice boxes and do what they can to make execptions for missing a class due to my train disruptions e.g. going at half speed due to hot weather... I can't afford to stay much longer. Scholarships are given out to people seemingly at random as opposed to actual serious need (my uni has the lowest amount of disadvantaged students in the country.) Meanwhile I'm passing out during tests, too exhausted to study, I look skeletal. Can't afford textbooks etc. Borrowed untorn clothes, spare old converse shoes from my sister, jeans that didn't fit from my sisters boyfriend and a bag from friends. Poverty chic is so gross. Anyone that's actually been homeless knows that the way people looked at you and treated you at your most vulnerable is something you can never fully scrub away.
Personally as a middle class student, often buying thrifted clothes, I can see why you think like you do. I am uncomfortable with the fact that thrifting has become more unaffordable for those that need it the most, and that I am part of of the society contributing to the gentrification of thrift shops. I am not trying to speak for you here, but for me personally and I think many other from my socio-economic background I never thrift clothes because I want to cosplay the poor. Thrift-shops just happens to have older clothes which I think look cooler (60s-70s) and they are usually more affordable for me.
As a middle class person, I only go for thrifted clothes if it’s from a substyle like l*lita fashion or jirai kei because it’s hard to find such clothes in my country and it’s extremely expensive when they’re brand-new + shipping fees. But I normally just buy new clothes or receive secondhand clothes from relatives. I don’t really try to cosplay the poor and I only follow the cutesy fashion substyles.
Everybody should wear more second-hand clothing, even rich people. An incredibly large amount of it goes to the dump every year. Buying second-hand is a great way to give items another life, along with clothing swaps. The real problem is the resellers who buy the best clothes at op shops, then hike the price up without adding anything to the clothing. They’re the ones gentrifying an incredibly necessary resource for everyone.
can we all talk about how Lana del Rey is a Wasp Thrust Fund Nepo Baby who cosplayed poor white trash trailer park, while doing a major at fordham after studying in connecticut's most elitist boarding schools (kent and choate mary hall, where only people like the Kennedys and Vanderbilts have gone) ... While also denying everything and insulting people who remind her of it... Also her grandfather was a Harvard Major, had a venture capital corporation and owned literally neighbourhoods, buildings and entire mountains with hiking trails in Lake Placid.
This reminds of the trend about 10 years ago where the in thing was distressed, dirty cowboy boots. I got the roof when I saw those because I used to go away as a child to a camp in the mountains where you learned to run cattle and care for working horses. You lived in bins with no electricity and worked from dawn to dusk moving cattle. I remember when I received my first pair of real, expensive cowboy boots from a local feed/leather store. The old cowboys who worked there treated me with so much respect and were so kind to me. I was so proud of those boots, by the end of the summer they were seriously trashed. I worked hard to destroy those boots, now they’re a fashion statement…
They made fun of me for being poor and even being homeless for half year at 18, now I'm better (still not rich obv but at least have someplace to rest and a work and food) I'm so gratefull and honestly if those people know how hard really is to be poor, homeless or just working class...
art/fashion classes I’ve taken seem to want to find a story in anything you make. Irregardless of ethical representation of the art form, just that it was sad or vulnerable enough to evoke anything out of you.
i can't believe that you're finally back, i keep rewatching your videos for years now, please make new videos i love your content, very thoughtful and unique
This pisses me off. I almost didn't want to watch because seeing people rub actual dirt on their clothes is so fucking ridiculous. I wish these celebrities and fashion designers actually helped out people who are poor and homeless. Because u know they could actually make a difference if they put their money to good use
1:05 I’m a little bit angry, there was a period in my life when I couldn’t even afford to buy a button for my jacket and these people made it an aesthetic. I know they might not have bad intentions, and fashion, just like any type of art has no rules. But I find it important for us to see this as a reflection of how we perceive each other.
Caring too much about fashion is foolish. If the president has to remind everyone that consuming heroine isn't cool, it's becausr the people are cooked, regardless of fashion trends
Oh it's intentional honey. They are laughing at us. The "elites" despite the regular people and refer to us as "the profane", and "the unwashed masses".
You are very innocent if you think they have no bad intentions, you yourself say they have no rules. I don't know about you but for me that's already worrying.
a coworker of mine when i was in NOLA taught me a bit of a proverb/saying, "if someone without money goes out, you'd almost never know it. they put on their best clothes and make sure to be cleaned/dolled as much as possible."
I'm actually homeless and can attest to this is very true, you don't have to look homeless if you can help it. I'm a clean person in general. homeless or not i dislike dirtiness. my situation and environment where i camp out solo i keep clean in the woods over looking a park trail just before the railroad. but once i leave my camp site to go into the town to look for work there is trash everywhere its sad. even as a homeless man I'm fortunate to have folks around me who actually see me and show kindness you would never thought existed.
@@elimuhammed6858 dude what the heck? i assure you a man like you would never end up homeless in modern russia and probably anywhere in Europe except Britain. find some money for a ticket, move here. teach dudes some english and get decent life
this is the most interesting, entertaining and well articulated video essay i've seen in a long while. automatically subscribed. also, really nice skin.
The rich will always want to pick and choose "interesting" things to steal/emulate from those they see as inferior, but all their stuff holds no personal significance. I own these limited-edition old skool vans that I love so much. I found them at a goodwill and when I saw them, they reminded me of aang from the last airbender. The shoes base is beige with the accents being like a tan color similar to aangs outfit colors, the best thing of all is that the signature old skool line is colored blue like aangs arrows. Ive had these vans for years and they used to hurt to wear because they are a half size too small, but I just kept wearing them until I wore them down. See, these shoes now are very battered. The soles are super thin, the rubber is lifting in some areas. However, I keep wearing them since they are made of faux suede which is okay for my job, but also because they hold significance to me. THAT is what the rich people do not get from wearing distressed clothing. My "distressed" vans hold a story of me wearing them for years. Not to mention they are second hand, which means those shoes had a previous owner who wore them as well.
fr, the communes of the 70s and hell even the founding of America was rich people fleeing their parents, the church or the state asking them to take responsibility/pay taxes
I mean it is a more nuanced situation than that. I was 50 years too late to see for myself, but I imagine most people in the counterculture in the 60s were more superficial, weekend hip types (especially because this was when youth culture first got big enough to be commoditized) but then you had people like the Diggers in SF who really committed to ideals of only pursuing what you need and sharing what you don't need. Most of these kids were from middle-class+ backgrounds, but if they're going to espouse the square life their families lead that's fine with me. Free up some jobs for people who don't have the privilege for that kind of thing yet. It's frustrating and I've had my share of run-ins with these types, but if you press their insecurities with being wealthy (which I think is very apparent here) you just might change a mind - a mind with a jet-heated trust fund!
"Let me show you Derelicte. It is a fashion, a way of life inspired by the very homeless, the vagrants, the crack whores that make this wonderful city so unique."
I guess these abominations are like sun tans. From what I understand, in the past sun tans were considered unfashionable for the wealthy classes because a lot of laborers had to work outside, so their skin got tanned. The wealthy tried to make themselves look pale to show they have high status office jobs. But now, sun tans are fashionable because they show someone has a lot of time for leisure on the beach. I don't know if that's true or not. I don't know. I've got a sun tan and I wear ripped clothes because I'm an outdoors enthusiast and I work a physically taxing job that puts a lot of wear and tear on my pants.
Another take on this - as a kid I felt less excluded with the ripped jeans trend. Nobody could tell if they were ripped from wearing or if I bought them like this.
It’s funny cause as child I was made fun of for having a loving grandma that would patch up the holes in my jeans, now at 20 everyone everyone asks me where I got my DIY punk patches. The world is backwards
@AtBurgerKingWithMyBurgerQueen it ain't that, it's all the sad shows/movies showing the main characters being poor and struggling. Now with the plethora of those everyone wants to emulate those characters, except they don't understand *why* they're good just that they're usually poor
I was definitely shamed for not having the "right" type of distress, of course. "Distressed" jeans tend to not have the kind of distress you get from actual use, like knees blown out or white patches between your thighs where they've rubbed together.
@@AtBurgerKingWithMyBurgerQueen children make fun of everything different, 20 year old punks like both patches and holes in clothing. like, I get what you mean, but I feel like those were two different groups of people.
Its a form of conspicuous consumption. Conspicuous consumption has shifted from overt displays of wealth (e.g., flashy jewelry) to more subtle or ironic signals. Distressed clothing aligns with this trend by demonstrating that the wearer is "in the know" about fashion and cultural trends, which itself becomes a status marker.
My friends used to call my clothing style "Hobo core" Cause i wear only two pairs of pants, faded baggy blue jeans, or faded baggy black cargo's. I ripped, and worn them out, but they still fit perfect, and are my favorite pair of pants. I only wear hoodies, with alot of area's, completely worn out... One time, i had a dude wearing fuckin balenciaga, ask me if i was wearing chanel, or some rich brand. I deadass looked him in the eye, and said with a stone face look: "Its 20 bucks jeans..." And he acted as if i was lying. I fucking cant with these people, i just cant bro.
Someone in my university also called my gloves 'homeless core' because they had a hole in them. Like, what. I just can't really go out and buy new ones - or if i do, they'll be the same $3 pair that so easily got a hole in the first place. and they thought it was an aesthetic
I'm now annoyed that I threw out all my oversized faded jeans I had for a decade and finally got clothes that fit. I could've gotten a few thousand. I had a blue shirt that looked *just* like the one at 3:25. I could've made $1000 of that alone.
Lack of direct exposure to hardship,a different social bubble and a perception that poverty is a personal failing rather systemic issue is why rich people don't give a shit about poverty in general.I think not all rich people are like that but their is a serious anger in me towards these elite fashion enthusiasts these are people who believe in materialistic values.People like these are responsible for climate change.
@coolgamer2135 Look into who holds weather modification patterns, hurricane modification patterns and stratospheric aerosol injections (the cross crossing lines you see in the skies). The umbrella term is geoengineering and it's been done for decades. Geoengineering. global is a good place to start.
@@theclumsyprepper lemme guess, it's all the fault of a certain group of people who were prosecuted in Germany 50 years ago? It's so funny seeing a Conspiracy theorist who beelived in climate change
Authenticity can’t be purchased or replicated. Growing up in poverty, in South LA molded and influenced my current rotation of styles HEAVILY. I definitely tap into the “poor” aesthetic by thrifting and distressing my own clothes. To me it’s almost a way to cope with my past and display that through my outfits without any fear of judgement because it’s intentional now and not circumstantial.
Let me show you Derelicte. It is a fashion, a way of life inspired by the very homeless, the vagrants, the crack whores that make this wonderful city so unique.
@@ibrahimkamityoutube Yes, thank god there are people like you to spread awareness and expose about issues in the world. It's way more important than you think.
Now about John Galliano. This is a reflection on how bad fashion schools are. Especially the school he came from, Central Saint Martins. They push students to take inspiration from just about anywhere. Every collection they make has to have a reference from somewhere. The teachers are less interested if you take inspiration from sources not edgy or exciting enough.
Im currently studying at csm and this is so true. For a two day fashion styling project, we researched a subculture to then create a editorial based on… like literally it was that simple: the way csm wanted us to see fashion styling is by stealing styles from people who hate the fashion industry
@@stellatilly9911 Makes a lot of sense. If people want to distance themselves from the status quo, thats where you will find the ideas with the greatest distance to it 🤔 Actually this sounds like a really effective way to generate something "new".
The fashion industry seems to know no depths in its decrepitude, decadence, nihilism, fickleness, shallowness, emptiness, ugliness, superficiality and moral bankruptcy. Best to avoid it all together. Your bank account, mental sanity, attractiveness and the environment will all thank you.
Agreed. I’ve always loved clothes, but had a nasty habit of buying new ones on sale when I didn’t need them. That just lead to me being overwhelmed and ashamed. Turns out, I just need to use my creativity to come up with fun outfits with what I already have! As a plus, I don’t buy into manufactured “trends” anymore. Thank goodness.
I was a homeless teen in France when Galliano released his homeless inspired collection. To be frank I was pleased with it because I felt like I looked less like shit, and people were less nasty to me (because they weren't sure I was really homeless or if I was rich cosplaying. Because as many other recent homeless people I was spending most of my day trying to look clean, pretty, not homeless, because that was the only way to get sympathy and empathy. I was getting much more help from people than friends who were homeless for 50 years, men, dirty, old, who needed much more help than i did The funny thing is I always used to consider myself very privileged when people who had actual food and shelter, even very rich people, were always considering themselves as poor and unprivileged because they had friends who had more than them, and because they "work for what I have" thanks to being able to have food and shelter as a teen and being able to go to school, and have parents to host you until you are ready to leave, and even provide guidance) Though, I was still not allowed to sit on public benches ,denied access to stores, and was arrested almost everyday because of how I looked, abused by police, never helped. There was really a double standard.Today I'm not homeless anymore (even though I wouldn't have accdess to housing if I leave the apartment I live in today, which has one room, and where I lived with my two kids for 3/4 of the money I get every month, which is 1000 euros for three), but everything we do my kids and I that is a direct result of poverty (cooking our own food, making our own clothes, wearing clothes and mending it until they are too small or too distressed) and that rich people do for aesthetics, we are treated like shit Parents called social services because my son had a small hole in his trouser around the knee because we play outside a lot (they were not ipad kids until social services and rich parents made sure we wouldn't go outside in the rich neighboorhood where we live, a big mistake from my part to think it would be worth the financial sacrifice so they could attend the best schools by having the right postal code because that'ts how it works in France, you only can attend the school that is closer to your home and city center schools get more funds for some reasons, and the only way to attend an other school is to go private which is a whoe other story). My kids have been taken because of discrimination when we did nothing wrong, just because of criminilization of poverty in a "social" country where you are not allowed to raise your voice against unfairness if you get money from the government. They can legally destroy your life and your kids psyche because they paid for it.
French out there too. It completely suck that you had these experiences. I talk with some homeless peoples this year while i was doing some activism and nomadism but to be honest, i am always shocked of some realities here too. Homeless peoples have the worst here and it’s going higher because of our government .. it’s infuriating. I hope your kids will escape that and that at some point you will have peace too 🤍
You must be a hateful person. So, how much money does a person have to make to be "upper rich class" according to you? I hate vague comments like yours.
As someone who grew up living under the poverty line this infuriates me to no end. These people don't understand the privelige to have nice, not extremely worn out clothes. And even then why buy this crap, you can just keep wearing the same clothes you had before and with long enough time they will get that ''worn out look'', and instead of throwing these clothes away then just keep wearing them, most people don't care anyways.
This video made me cry so hard for personal reasons. This was beautifully done. You did an amazing job explaining everything and showing proof and citations. I’m definitely subscribing. This is my first time seeing you I need more videos like these in my life.
I like that you mentioned you took a break in your video description. It shows you cared about this video and wanted it to be only about the topic, and not about you. I think it's really admirable. 🙂
Why the hell would someone pay 425 for some dirty a** jeans, when you can just buy some cheap jeans and add dirt.🤣🤣🤣People just got money to blow huh and welcome back.
because rich people are petty, dumb, bad with money and very narcissistic. which is why they will buy overpriced destroyed clothes, thinking it will make them appear humble fashion is just grifting the rich. same way saudi princes agree to build giant idiotic megabuildings in the middle of the desert, completely univable. capitalism and such it's bizarre how toothless the reactions are in the comments to this absolutely abhorrent trend that is only a tiny part of the fucked up shit these people do
Exactly, if you got money to spare why not pay 400 bucks for dirty jeans? Turning cheap jeans into dirty jeans requires physical labour and that's for poor people.
Thank you for making this! Ugh… I’m not surprised. As someone who has struggled with poverty and at one point wondered if I’d become homeless, this isn’t a joke. It’s agonizing wondering how to get by whether it’s figuring out what bills need to be paid or how you’re going to eat. I’ve made actual homeless friends and life on the streets is a genuine nightmare for them. But it doesn’t surprise me that the upper parts of the fashion/entertainment world would do this… ugh (again)..
What an interesting topic! I haven't seen anyone talked about this topic, but I love the fact that YOU are the one who first introduced me to it. It's ironic that rich people take advantage of poor people even when they don't have ANYTHING for themselves, let alone having something to offer to other people.
I’ve seen videos on this topic and clicked on this thinking it would a something to put on in the background. You had me enthralled! Great research on the history and they weren’t there just to fill time and look smart like many video essays. Incredibly well done!
I think people are trying to buy the experience of what the clothes represent. Like people who wear gorp-core without hiking mountains, wearing workwear without doing any sort of manual labour, or buying pieces that have been worn down to the nub. It's this whole idea of romanticing aspects of other peoples lives and wanting to buy that without actually experiencing any of it.
I don’t think it’s just that. A lot of people are simply interested in what they’re not. A farmer in the countryside will wear particular fashions, a Barbour jacket or something similar. To him, it’s his regular outfit. To someone in New York or Los Angeles this is really stylish and new to them. They don’t necessarily want to be farmers, or look like farmers. They just think the style is dope, because it’s different.
@@ShotsMerkzAll Agreed and people should be encouraged to look further afield for inspiration because that mix nets pretty interesting results. I think the problem arises when we consider appropriation or appreciation in a wider sense. How we navigate that if there are societal impacts.
@@mikeyseibert1406Caved? Not sure expanding on a point counts as caving, these types of things aren't binary they're multi-faceted. Because of this, we shouldn't be so combative we're all entitled to our own opinions on this issue. It's all about having a healthy dialogue and not tearing each other down. Hope this helps you.
@@mikeyseibert1406the 2nd guy actually made his point in the whole "people just wear other peoples attire because they think its cool" he just had a deeper dive look into it with the whole "people want to experience or be something outside of themselves" way of seeing it
I mean this is just a return to that punk ripped clothes aesthetic from the late 90s early 00s. Fashion is a giant circle that never ends so they can sell more stuff.
Fashion is great, easily one of the best ways to self-express. The fashion industry however can go to a deserted island where they can keep up their circle-jerking without fucking over anyone else.
When I was homeless I was a lot cleaner than they were in the “homeless chic” wear. Horrid how society equates simply not having a house w being dirty and disheveled
While I do think there can be some interesting ideas in trying to emulate the "homeless look" and the way they choose to dress with the resources they got available, more often than not it just comes out as completely tone-def by the designers and specially from the consumers of such fashion. At face value, I think brands like valenciaga do genuinely interesting pieces that oscillate somewhere between art and a social experiment. The issue comes when a bunch of rich clout chaser snobs jump into the wagon and kill any resemblance of a statement in this fashion pieces, which it ends up being a bit ironic since they're the only people that would ever buy that shit and probably the only reason it exists in the first place.
You’ve worded this so well! 👏🏽👏🏽 thank you so much for taking your time to share your thoughts. I loved reading this. Exactly it does end up being ironic
Homeless don't get to "choose" how they dress, the resources they *have* available and the environment they find themselves in dictate what they wear, and everything else for that matter. There are no choices.
This was such an interesting watch... really opened my eyes from an historical and social perspective. I'll admit - I've never understood fashion trends - i've always preferred basic so I can wear year after year... and I expect I will for years to come. Thank you for sharing.
what really gets me is…most, if not all of these “pieces” are incredibly attainable by buying/thrifting a regular article of clothing and cutting/beating/staining the shit out of it. there, it’s ruined. now it’s worth a hundred more dollars. what????
Brooo.... Thanks for pointing this out to me. I'll go pick up my dirty sets of clothes that I used during the construction of my house, that I now keep in the garage for when I do woodworking or repair my car etc. Put them on, go to the next gala event and I'll be the most stylish person in the room!
Ibrahim!!!!! As always, so astute! One of the best TH-camrs ever. This essay is so philosophically dissecting. It's misleading to someone who might not know Ibrahim's channel to think it's just a cute boy talking about fashion. It is anything but.
@@ibrahimkamityoutube- I found this vid by accident, or the algorithm gods! I put it on for background also, but was gripped to the TV!! I'm old enough to remember punk, grunge and chav all going on in the UK. H***N chic too. Really well done vid, you really went into all the history/societal reasons behind it all. I'm gonna check out some of your other stuff now!
There has definitely also been a big shift regarding thrifting. If you bought your clothes at the thrift store, people would think you were gross. When it became a trend all of the sudden it was socially acceptable and cool and now you have an unlimited amount of IG pages reselling thrifted clothes for insane amounts of prices. This all has resulted in a big price increase in every thrift store everywhere it seems :/
What a brilliant video, so happy when people expose the horrors of the clothing industry even though I’m a hypocrite I’m trying to not buy unless I need x
I once made a backpack out of an old industrial PPE bag using belts for shoulder straps because I couldn’t afford a new backpack or proper materials. I get a lot of compliments for it. Fantastic video, heartbreaking but perfect, I wish I was still teaching this would be excellent for a classroom discussion.
Bro this shit is actually so gross, knowing the same people who are inspired by “the homeless community” would scoff if they saw a homeless person wearing the same thing
Wow that's a really cool video! Glad that you bring this idea up. As for me I think art performances can use some inspiration from poverty they will donate, or help their "inspiration" in deed. (Like really) And the part was what really hurt me is how about being punk or being hippie turned into "I saw that boho is again popular on tiktok so let's go thrift😊🌸" (and in the end of the video there are a five bags full of clothing, but in the next video channel drops the same video with another aesthetic ) Or some brands sailing punk-coded clothes for thousands... do you even know what is it...? what an oxymoron.... these people are really selling grunge icon by parts.. It's a culture, it's not about safety pins, flower prints, layering, you-!
we live in a sick world, where the poor are seen as "aesthetic inspiration"
We live in a beautiful world with sick individuals. Sick individuals that demand to be loved in sick ways.
Such as adding children and teddy bears to bdsm styled "clothing" and wanting other attention seekers to help them fill their endless psychological voids by dressing up as buffoons.
I disagree, just because they're poor, it doesn't mean they don't have style. The rich are trying to capitalize on this..
it's by design to keep the dynamics of power stabilized .
consider it a literal "wolf in sheeps clothing" psychological operation.
@@woiowoiow190 until a fucking meal that was thrown in the trash like chicken wings, marrow, salmon and lobster become luxury items and not fit for the poor's consumption
An inspiration but never a "trendsetter". I dealt with a microcosm of this while in art school(it was a state school and there was a clear delineation between the have-nots and the nepo babies who had resources and assistants but would try to conceal it), and I can't tell you how many times I'd say something only to have some rich schmuck say it louder and take credit for it, treated as a visionary.
_"They mock poor people's fashion until they patented it"_ , when you put a brand or status on it all of the sudden it's _worthy_ . Been having this thought process for a while. Thank you for the in-depth video.
yea like how poor peaople been saying thigns for YEARS, "conspracy theorys" but now BILLINAIR trump and musk talk about it NOW PEAOPLE LISTEN! but its like you COULD LEARNED THAT YEARS AGO BEFORE MUSK AND TRUMP SIED THAT!
You can't patent clothing lol. That's how zara and h&M, similar brands have been copying designers for decades and getting away with it. Also why LV puts their logo all over their bags because logos can't be copied.
@@NightmareRex6yeeh😮
@@NightmareRex6 Whaat evah es ya'll tarking abayalt? It aint poor people thad makes up conspirasays, burt rich powerful billinairs lark Musk an Trump thay ah liyars an cheats control social me daya.
like have gaming was nerdy until it became mainstramm and now it has gone down hil
My dad always says "Poor people always create the coolest shit, the most delicious food and have the best clothing, until the rich think they shouldn't and they steal everything" it happened with Salmon, Lobster, fucking beef marrow bones, washed out band t-shirts, boots that look worn out, ripped jeans, fucking rock music and many more things
Wise Dad!
THE TRUTH 😎🎭✌️
Christ, I recently tried to get some soup bones and they're more per pound than t-bones.
Rich people when everyone else is doing ok; 😡
Rich people when your kids go to bed Hungry; 😊
@@DeenanTheKemon1 someone played my fallout nv mod and read the elite terminal entrys?
As a poor person who was chronically homeless, this angers me when the rich cosplays our struggles like its a trend. It's fun and games being homeless until when they actually become homeless, then the trend and joke ain't so funny.
By the way, excellent video, and you gained a subscriber. Keep up the good work.
Being homeless is so embarrassing 😂
@@shmop6You are the only embarassing online edgelord here with your tired bs about "pseudo-intellectuals who are just envious about not being rich"
@@shmop6 bruh...
I have a terrible attention span and usually listen to video essays while doing two or three other things. I watched this entire video without EVER thinking to pick up my game because of how well done it was. truly good work
Me too!!! It was so interesting and captured my attention.
You should work on that...
This is so dystopian.. I can't
This is please don’t eat the rich fashion
Always has been
Yeah I'm so mad after this our world is so f*cked up
'cultural entropy' under capitalism.
well, our reality kinda is. it's a brave new world we live in.
I’m tired of rich people …
Oh, let me dress like the poor and put on expensive perfume all the while disregarding the poor guy on the streets.
Torn clothing were a trend in africa too only we didn't buy the actual thing(because who can afford that?) we made derivatives of them.
Glad i didn't wear any of that. 🤦♂️
Don’t ever try to get rich then!
I'm sure you'd refuse a few million dollars
A Guiluteen in every town square.
@DemureDarlings It's not even possible for a non rich person to become rich anyway, (and all "self made billionaires" got their start mostly thanks to papa's money) so I don't really see your point.
I think it's a good place to remind people to take rich people's struggles with a grain of salt. Because their thought process may very well be "poor people just live their fun poor lives and have no responsibilities like being paid a lot". I just recently came across a post of a person who thankfully wasn't the sharpest tool in the shed and blurted out straight that sometimes she wishes she grew up poorer thinking poor people have less responsibilities. More often you would hear "wow everything is so cheap in your country" from a person that you know makes 10 times more than you ever would just because they were born in another country.
Poland moment :/
I swear to god if I hear another westerner claim that things are dirt cheap in Poland I will lose my mind.
I can find empathy for almost any situation but not this. This is a sign of not just being ignorant but straight up stupid and careless.
They know money gets them places so logically having no money means it's harder because you're constantly figuring out how you're gonna pay for things you need, it means more responsibility and choosing which you can and cannot afford and how to make things work because you can't go buy what you need.
@@LavenderMike77Same with fucking western expats in the Philippines. Some of these guys are here saying shit is cheap, and are basically sex tourists. I remember looking at the philippine expat subreddit, and it's pretty gross
@@LavenderMike77eastern europe in general moment 🥹Ppl come to Romania for vacation meanwhile the average person here cant afford a vacation in their own country
I'm determined to make a career out of my writing and if I move into higher tax brackets I'm gonna be unapologetically loud about real struggle. Like I am over rich people, and I wouldn't care otherwise, but wealth shouldn't exist if children are starving in the richest country in the world. Disabled and sick people can't get the proper care. People can't afford the basics. No way lol.
Ironically, it is EXTREMELY difficult to find a pair of jeans today that are NOT distressed. It has become so normal that finding a pair of jeans even without faded coloring in some spots is hard. As someone who grew up in the lower middle class, it is extremely annoying and slap in the face to have to purchase faded jeans with holes because they cannot find any decent nondistressed ones when my family would work so hard to get us clothes without holes, proper clothes. I have found some brands now but, guess what? They aint cheap either.
I know this is so annoying... I have a hard time finding plain regular jeans with straight leg and no weird fading or holes on them.... The current trend is skinny leg jeans that are faded and dyed to look dirty and have holes on them...
I remember that time when I couldn't find any shorts that didn't have one of those hammer loops on them, like it's supposed to be a symbol of the working class. lol
Chav isn't actually a blanket term for young working class people, a chav is someone who embodies a certain confrontational, rude attitude usually paired with heavy drinking and general hooliganism.
When I had money, I felt no shame even when my payment card would be declined at the store. I would just say "oh, I used the wrong card", or something along the lines and laugh. But when I had no money, it was embarrassing to see my card declined at the store, as if the cashier was judging me for being poor. Perspective in life changes when you have money, and it's a struggle when you don't even in the exact same situations.
Just remember that people don't know how wealthy you are from the way you look and present yourself properly.
fantasy in D minor is a great work good job!
Wow!
@@younghokim1994 that's why you should save money and work hard
most cashiers are poor and on food stamps....
When i was child i used to think rich people must have high intellect and know about how to live life in much more meaningful way, but oh boy i was super wrong.
Na they dumb bro
@lelouchvbritannia2168 yeah indeed.
@@PhilosophicalPurrCat they are intelligent, in street hustle way. Also book and school are never helping
There is a very small group of rich people I know that are actually intelligent. By and large, most are unbelievably dumb, street and book wise.
@@IamFighterman nah, its a slider between morals and money, you have to pick one (or be born into a family that has picked the latter.)
That clip of Khole and Kourtney complaining about a homeless person “rolling in dirt” at the front of their store isn’t surprising, but still so upsetting
I think they helped that homeless man in that episode but they surely did it just for the show
@@AngelicWitch444 They also demeaned him and put him on reality television!
@@RadarFinsR I just remember they took some homeless man to a dentist so he could have teeth again? And something else but I don’t remember more
and ppl idolize them 🙄
It’s called blending in. That way when the pitchforks finally come out no one will be able to tell who’s who
Hmm, interesting. That may have worked at some point, but it won't now. Too many of us have been homeless before. And we'll never forget it. We'll know who's who.
Yeah if the CEO wore that type of clothing maybe he wouldnt get nipped.
😂 love this ❤
I think its more a way of taking more from us showing us look were in control we can make something you have to endure into something we can exploit
Bro storytelling is on point
there is no story in this youtube video, only facts
Hopefully it will become fashionable and trendy for rich people to give all their money to poor communities and "live the real life" by being poor and "experiencing real life" by working and struggling to pay bills. Now THAT would be fashionable. Rich folks need to hurry up and get on that cool trend.
Poor people need to get organized and start flexing on these fools. 💪🏼💪🏽💪🏿
They should show poor ppl how it (starving due to poverty) is done 😤😤😤
@roseCatcher_ You sound rich. Give me your iPhone and I'll be able to pass it on.
Even if they did the money would just go back to the same individuals, there has to be a change of mindset
just ignore the government pocketing money and blame rich people........
God... the mud run-way with the fake baby carriers. That is sick. They are literally mocking poor people at this point...
This is a 500 hundred years pattern hun
It’s bizarre! I honestly was surprised it wasn’t talked about as much as I thought it would be.
Exactly!! When you understand the long history behind it, it unfortunately makes sense
@@ibrahimkamityoutube so glad we agree 💓
I had to double-take. What the fuck?
As someone who is poor & homeless, this is absolutely boggling my mind. I put so much effort into looking clean and presentable on a very limited budget and people are seriously spending the cost of groceries and several utility bills to look dirty..... 🙃
Rich people actually have to be some of the most idiotic people ever to buy this type of stuff when you can do it for FREE with minimal effort, if they’re so bored to spend $500+ on dirty worn clothes why not just dirty it and wear it down yourself?
Same. When I was homeless I took extra care to not show a single hint of it out of shame, embarrassment, and stigma. I cannot understand this trend at all. It blows my mind. I cannot understand.
@@AdawaShiwani How can they be so fiendishly clever in the ways they exploit the underpriviledged to amass and hoard resources, but so bafflingly stupid at things even the middleclass understand is common sense???? If it was up to the Habsburgs to run the world, the human species would be extinct in 3 generations.
@prettylionadoll thank you for the kind words and well wishes, slowly inching my way towards stable housing 🙏🏽💕
@@AdawaShiwani it's not about looking poor, its about being able to spend a shit ton on looking poor with zero repercussions
I think it’s interesting how the fashion industry decides to never showcase the poverty and “raw” conditions it creates in other countries or immigrant communities.
"homeless community" is a hilarious phrase to me, makes it sound like a fandom or something
i see this alot at my university, the upper class and middle class cosplaying as the poor by wearing thrifted clothing, trying to be more relatable. its frustrating because wearing those clothes is an option for them while a necessity for others.
Some of us don't even get that luxury to afford clothes at all.
100% this. Even had a uni student go on passive aggressive tirade about how hard their life is and apparently I meant they were so 'spoiled' when I casually disclosed I'd been homeless escaping dv/fv (relevant to tutorial discussion).... not the reaction I was expecting but makes sense.
I'm a super-commuter from the country, first in the family and this person is an inner city individual from relative wealth that doesn't fit their political aesthetic (socialist grunge). But they went to a 'bad school'. Like.... I'm like 8 zones away from the city campus. People in the city don't even know my general area it's so far. Lol.
Being priced out of my town, rents going up by 30%, cost of living + public transport/private cost, can't afford to show I have 10k upfront to get a city rental because I can't save enough, unable to get a job due to commute... and even if I quit uni can't work in my skillset due to physical injury that needs time and specialists to help heal. Outside my skillset/experience in my small town, not a lot of jobs, 50+ people for one job interview, they prefer the ones with relevant experience. Not even the employment place has been able to find me work....
I'm trying to build a better life for myself but I can't keep going days without food, sleep and medicine. Part time study means I don't get the meagre student assistance that doesn't even cover rent and bills. I worked so hard to get here, academically successful, the staff sneak me museli bars and juice boxes and do what they can to make execptions for missing a class due to my train disruptions e.g. going at half speed due to hot weather...
I can't afford to stay much longer. Scholarships are given out to people seemingly at random as opposed to actual serious need (my uni has the lowest amount of disadvantaged students in the country.) Meanwhile I'm passing out during tests, too exhausted to study, I look skeletal. Can't afford textbooks etc.
Borrowed untorn clothes, spare old converse shoes from my sister, jeans that didn't fit from my sisters boyfriend and a bag from friends.
Poverty chic is so gross. Anyone that's actually been homeless knows that the way people looked at you and treated you at your most vulnerable is something you can never fully scrub away.
Personally as a middle class student, often buying thrifted clothes, I can see why you think like you do. I am uncomfortable with the fact that thrifting has become more unaffordable for those that need it the most, and that I am part of of the society contributing to the gentrification of thrift shops. I am not trying to speak for you here, but for me personally and I think many other from my socio-economic background I never thrift clothes because I want to cosplay the poor. Thrift-shops just happens to have older clothes which I think look cooler (60s-70s) and they are usually more affordable for me.
As a middle class person, I only go for thrifted clothes if it’s from a substyle like l*lita fashion or jirai kei because it’s hard to find such clothes in my country and it’s extremely expensive when they’re brand-new + shipping fees. But I normally just buy new clothes or receive secondhand clothes from relatives.
I don’t really try to cosplay the poor and I only follow the cutesy fashion substyles.
Everybody should wear more second-hand clothing, even rich people. An incredibly large amount of it goes to the dump every year. Buying second-hand is a great way to give items another life, along with clothing swaps.
The real problem is the resellers who buy the best clothes at op shops, then hike the price up without adding anything to the clothing. They’re the ones gentrifying an incredibly necessary resource for everyone.
When the world needed him most, he DIDN'T vanish. Welcome back king. Keep challenging the screwed-up standards of our world.
Awwww thank you so much for being supportive and patient 🥺💖
can we all talk about how Lana del Rey is a Wasp Thrust Fund Nepo Baby who cosplayed poor white trash trailer park, while doing a major at fordham after studying in connecticut's most elitist boarding schools (kent and choate mary hall, where only people like the Kennedys and Vanderbilts have gone) ... While also denying everything and insulting people who remind her of it... Also her grandfather was a Harvard Major, had a venture capital corporation and owned literally neighbourhoods, buildings and entire mountains with hiking trails in Lake Placid.
I call it WELFARE CHIC
Homeless chic is soo 1980s
This reminds of the trend about 10 years ago where the in thing was distressed, dirty cowboy boots. I got the roof when I saw those because I used to go away as a child to a camp in the mountains where you learned to run cattle and care for working horses. You lived in bins with no electricity and worked from dawn to dusk moving cattle. I remember when I received my first pair of real, expensive cowboy boots from a local feed/leather store. The old cowboys who worked there treated me with so much respect and were so kind to me. I was so proud of those boots, by the end of the summer they were seriously trashed. I worked hard to destroy those boots, now they’re a fashion statement…
They made fun of me for being poor and even being homeless for half year at 18, now I'm better (still not rich obv but at least have someplace to rest and a work and food) I'm so gratefull and honestly if those people know how hard really is to be poor, homeless or just working class...
Also half a year is nothing, there's people that are homeless since years
They don’t
art/fashion classes I’ve taken seem to want to find a story in anything you make. Irregardless of ethical representation of the art form, just that it was sad or vulnerable enough to evoke anything out of you.
i can't believe that you're finally back, i keep rewatching your videos for years now, please make new videos i love your content, very thoughtful and unique
This pisses me off. I almost didn't want to watch because seeing people rub actual dirt on their clothes is so fucking ridiculous. I wish these celebrities and fashion designers actually helped out people who are poor and homeless. Because u know they could actually make a difference if they put their money to good use
They would get their clothes dirty doing that!
Sell them Your old shit lol
I’ll make hole jeans 👖 for $5 just bring old jeans 😂save yourself $20-$30 😉 😂
Nah, millionaires like that Vivienne Westwood would rather use key words like "climate change" to become even richer, just like Al Gore. What a joke.
1:05 I’m a little bit angry, there was a period in my life when I couldn’t even afford to buy a button for my jacket and these people made it an aesthetic. I know they might not have bad intentions, and fashion, just like any type of art has no rules. But I find it important for us to see this as a reflection of how we perceive each other.
Caring too much about fashion is foolish.
If the president has to remind everyone that consuming heroine isn't cool, it's becausr the people are cooked, regardless of fashion trends
It's weird how some suit jackets only have a single button when they should really have a minimum of two.
Oh it's intentional honey.
They are laughing at us. The "elites" despite the regular people and refer to us as "the profane", and "the unwashed masses".
Im currently missing 3 buttons on my jacket and cant afford to replace em lol. U made me feel better. 🙏
You are very innocent if you think they have no bad intentions, you yourself say they have no rules.
I don't know about you but for me that's already worrying.
a coworker of mine when i was in NOLA taught me a bit of a proverb/saying, "if someone without money goes out, you'd almost never know it. they put on their best clothes and make sure to be cleaned/dolled as much as possible."
I'm actually homeless and can attest to this is very true, you don't have to look homeless if you can help it. I'm a clean person in general. homeless or not i dislike dirtiness. my situation and environment where i camp out solo i keep clean in the woods over looking a park trail just before the railroad. but once i leave my camp site to go into the town to look for work there is trash everywhere its sad. even as a homeless man I'm fortunate to have folks around me who actually see me and show kindness you would never thought existed.
@@elimuhammed6858 hope it gets better man
@@elimuhammed6858 dude what the heck? i assure you a man like you would never end up homeless in modern russia and probably anywhere in Europe except Britain. find some money for a ticket, move here. teach dudes some english and get decent life
@@elimuhammed6858 Much love!
this is the most interesting, entertaining and well articulated video essay i've seen in a long while. automatically subscribed. also, really nice skin.
The rich will always want to pick and choose "interesting" things to steal/emulate from those they see as inferior, but all their stuff holds no personal significance. I own these limited-edition old skool vans that I love so much. I found them at a goodwill and when I saw them, they reminded me of aang from the last airbender. The shoes base is beige with the accents being like a tan color similar to aangs outfit colors, the best thing of all is that the signature old skool line is colored blue like aangs arrows. Ive had these vans for years and they used to hurt to wear because they are a half size too small, but I just kept wearing them until I wore them down. See, these shoes now are very battered. The soles are super thin, the rubber is lifting in some areas. However, I keep wearing them since they are made of faux suede which is okay for my job, but also because they hold significance to me. THAT is what the rich people do not get from wearing distressed clothing. My "distressed" vans hold a story of me wearing them for years. Not to mention they are second hand, which means those shoes had a previous owner who wore them as well.
The Fashion industry has basicaly ruined evrything about clothes.
Thats just fashion for ya
Even with stupid looking clothes aside judt regular clothes are so expensive now even thrifts are pricey
This shouldn't even be considered any type of fashion it's mad ugly and doesn't even look cool they're just mocking poor ppl at this point
Hippies were the some of the first rich people trying to
look poor.
Who grew
up and became the very thing they supposedly despised
Hippie boomers are the most hypocrite beings that has lived.
fr, the communes of the 70s and hell even the founding of America was rich people fleeing their parents, the church or the state asking them to take responsibility/pay taxes
I mean it is a more nuanced situation than that. I was 50 years too late to see for myself, but I imagine most people in the counterculture in the 60s were more superficial, weekend hip types (especially because this was when youth culture first got big enough to be commoditized) but then you had people like the Diggers in SF who really committed to ideals of only pursuing what you need and sharing what you don't need. Most of these kids were from middle-class+ backgrounds, but if they're going to espouse the square life their families lead that's fine with me. Free up some jobs for people who don't have the privilege for that kind of thing yet. It's frustrating and I've had my share of run-ins with these types, but if you press their insecurities with being wealthy (which I think is very apparent here) you just might change a mind - a mind with a jet-heated trust fund!
i was born to bohos / hippie rockers
who were poor ish
and dressed fancy
We are literally living in the hunger games
unfortunately, you are right :/
Seen the new Jaguar commercial, have you?!
We live in a terrible series of teenage drama movies
idiocracy movie more accurate kanye literally seem one the character from that movie
came for the interesting thumbnail but stayed for the surprisingly deep discussion on class disparity. great video dude!
"Let me show you Derelicte. It is a fashion, a way of life inspired by the very homeless, the vagrants, the crack whores that make this wonderful city so unique."
Mugatu was a Visionary, he knew what the wealth clients wanted.
What a sick world, truly 😞
It feels so dystopian :/
Matrix
I guess these abominations are like sun tans. From what I understand, in the past sun tans were considered unfashionable for the wealthy classes because a lot of laborers had to work outside, so their skin got tanned. The wealthy tried to make themselves look pale to show they have high status office jobs. But now, sun tans are fashionable because they show someone has a lot of time for leisure on the beach. I don't know if that's true or not.
I don't know. I've got a sun tan and I wear ripped clothes because I'm an outdoors enthusiast and I work a physically taxing job that puts a lot of wear and tear on my pants.
Yes. That's true.
@@revealingmesell Your pants you’ll be rich!
Another take on this - as a kid I felt less excluded with the ripped jeans trend. Nobody could tell if they were ripped from wearing or if I bought them like this.
It’s funny cause as child I was made fun of for having a loving grandma that would patch up the holes in my jeans, now at 20 everyone everyone asks me where I got my DIY punk patches. The world is backwards
@AtBurgerKingWithMyBurgerQueen it ain't that, it's all the sad shows/movies showing the main characters being poor and struggling. Now with the plethora of those everyone wants to emulate those characters, except they don't understand *why* they're good just that they're usually poor
I was definitely shamed for not having the "right" type of distress, of course. "Distressed" jeans tend to not have the kind of distress you get from actual use, like knees blown out or white patches between your thighs where they've rubbed together.
@@AtBurgerKingWithMyBurgerQueen children make fun of everything different, 20 year old punks like both patches and holes in clothing. like, I get what you mean, but I feel like those were two different groups of people.
Our mothers wore ripped jeans in the 80s
They were mainstream
22:36 if there's anything I've learned from the fashion industry, is that you just gotta carry it with confidence and people will think it's cool.
Its a form of conspicuous consumption. Conspicuous consumption has shifted from overt displays of wealth (e.g., flashy jewelry) to more subtle or ironic signals. Distressed clothing aligns with this trend by demonstrating that the wearer is "in the know" about fashion and cultural trends, which itself becomes a status marker.
It’s crazy how this video finds me after I learned about golden goose shoes, told all my friends the rich treat poverty like a trend.
Just looked it up wtf. €600+ for shoes that look like the old faded nikes I’ve had for 8 years 😭
My friends used to call my clothing style "Hobo core"
Cause i wear only two pairs of pants, faded baggy blue jeans, or faded baggy black cargo's.
I ripped, and worn them out, but they still fit perfect, and are my favorite pair of pants.
I only wear hoodies, with alot of area's, completely worn out...
One time, i had a dude wearing fuckin balenciaga, ask me if i was wearing chanel, or some rich brand.
I deadass looked him in the eye, and said with a stone face look: "Its 20 bucks jeans..." And he acted as if i was lying.
I fucking cant with these people, i just cant bro.
You couldve sold him your clothes I guess :D
Someone in my university also called my gloves 'homeless core' because they had a hole in them. Like, what. I just can't really go out and buy new ones - or if i do, they'll be the same $3 pair that so easily got a hole in the first place. and they thought it was an aesthetic
@@tatymrasmussen9578 Just play it off at that point lmao
I'm now annoyed that I threw out all my oversized faded jeans I had for a decade and finally got clothes that fit. I could've gotten a few thousand. I had a blue shirt that looked *just* like the one at 3:25. I could've made $1000 of that alone.
lol omg... balenciaga. insane.
Lack of direct exposure to hardship,a different social bubble and a perception that poverty is a personal failing rather systemic issue is why rich people don't give a shit about poverty in general.I think not all rich people are like that but their is a serious anger in me towards these elite fashion enthusiasts these are people who believe in materialistic values.People like these are responsible for climate change.
They are responsible for climate change, but not in the way you think.
Look into weather modification programs.
@@theclumsyprepper Mind to elaborate
@coolgamer2135 Look into who holds weather modification patterns, hurricane modification patterns and stratospheric aerosol injections (the cross crossing lines you see in the skies). The umbrella term is geoengineering and it's been done for decades.
Geoengineering. global is a good place to start.
get some money twan
@@theclumsyprepper lemme guess, it's all the fault of a certain group of people who were prosecuted in Germany 50 years ago? It's so funny seeing a Conspiracy theorist who beelived in climate change
Im so excited to see a new video from you! Welcome back!! :)
Authenticity can’t be purchased or replicated. Growing up in poverty, in South LA molded and influenced my current rotation of styles HEAVILY. I definitely tap into the “poor” aesthetic by thrifting and distressing my own clothes. To me it’s almost a way to cope with my past and display that through my outfits without any fear of judgement because it’s intentional now and not circumstantial.
When fashion runs out of ideas its time to pivot to 'Derelict'. Zoolander was educational.
Let me show you Derelicte. It is a fashion, a way of life inspired by the very homeless, the vagrants, the crack whores that make this wonderful city so unique.
Beat me to it.😊
I scrolled way too much to find this comment 😂
I clicked on the video just to see this comment
The fact that there seems to be hardly any other 'Zoolander' comparisons, is the real problem with society
OMG! With everything going on currently in the world, We’re GLAD YOU’RE BACK with Your Commentary!💯
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Very glad to see Ibrahim back !!!
Awww thank you so much for still being here 😭😭😭 really appreciate it
@@ibrahimkamityoutube Yes, thank god there are people like you to spread awareness and expose about issues in the world. It's way more important than you think.
Wasn't this a subplot from Zoolander?
@@highpotthesis7413it was 😂 that movie predicted the absurdity of it all
Now about John Galliano. This is a reflection on how bad fashion schools are. Especially the school he came from, Central Saint Martins. They push students to take inspiration from just about anywhere. Every collection they make has to have a reference from somewhere. The teachers are less interested if you take inspiration from sources not edgy or exciting enough.
😮😮 that’s fascinating! Thank you for sharing this. That makes so much sense now 😅 might do a bit of a deep dive into this now hahah
Im currently studying at csm and this is so true. For a two day fashion styling project, we researched a subculture to then create a editorial based on… like literally it was that simple: the way csm wanted us to see fashion styling is by stealing styles from people who hate the fashion industry
@@stellatilly9911 Makes a lot of sense. If people want to distance themselves from the status quo, thats where you will find the ideas with the greatest distance to it 🤔 Actually this sounds like a really effective way to generate something "new".
@@ibrahimkamityoutube- loads of famous designers have graduated from CSM. It's in London. . Vivienne Westwood for one.
After a long time …. I watched a whole almost 30 minutes video without skipping any parts and even left a comment about it… great job ❤❤
Great piece of journalism, this deserves to get more views so that it spreads awareness.
The fashion industry seems to know no depths in its decrepitude, decadence, nihilism, fickleness, shallowness, emptiness, ugliness, superficiality and moral bankruptcy. Best to avoid it all together. Your bank account, mental sanity, attractiveness and the environment will all thank you.
Agreed. I’ve always loved clothes, but had a nasty habit of buying new ones on sale when I didn’t need them. That just lead to me being overwhelmed and ashamed.
Turns out, I just need to use my creativity to come up with fun outfits with what I already have!
As a plus, I don’t buy into manufactured “trends” anymore. Thank goodness.
LoL The rewriting in all these Comments
WoW
@@Ritff666l-e9e ??? Lmao
I was a homeless teen in France when Galliano released his homeless inspired collection. To be frank I was pleased with it because I felt like I looked less like shit, and people were less nasty to me (because they weren't sure I was really homeless or if I was rich cosplaying. Because as many other recent homeless people I was spending most of my day trying to look clean, pretty, not homeless, because that was the only way to get sympathy and empathy. I was getting much more help from people than friends who were homeless for 50 years, men, dirty, old, who needed much more help than i did The funny thing is I always used to consider myself very privileged when people who had actual food and shelter, even very rich people, were always considering themselves as poor and unprivileged because they had friends who had more than them, and because they "work for what I have" thanks to being able to have food and shelter as a teen and being able to go to school, and have parents to host you until you are ready to leave, and even provide guidance)
Though, I was still not allowed to sit on public benches ,denied access to stores, and was arrested almost everyday because of how I looked, abused by police, never helped. There was really a double standard.Today I'm not homeless anymore (even though I wouldn't have accdess to housing if I leave the apartment I live in today, which has one room, and where I lived with my two kids for 3/4 of the money I get every month, which is 1000 euros for three), but everything we do my kids and I that is a direct result of poverty (cooking our own food, making our own clothes, wearing clothes and mending it until they are too small or too distressed) and that rich people do for aesthetics, we are treated like shit Parents called social services because my son had a small hole in his trouser around the knee because we play outside a lot (they were not ipad kids until social services and rich parents made sure we wouldn't go outside in the rich neighboorhood where we live, a big mistake from my part to think it would be worth the financial sacrifice so they could attend the best schools by having the right postal code because that'ts how it works in France, you only can attend the school that is closer to your home and city center schools get more funds for some reasons, and the only way to attend an other school is to go private which is a whoe other story). My kids have been taken because of discrimination when we did nothing wrong, just because of criminilization of poverty in a "social" country where you are not allowed to raise your voice against unfairness if you get money from the government.
They can legally destroy your life and your kids psyche because they paid for it.
Damn ❤ yea that's messed up
French out there too. It completely suck that you had these experiences. I talk with some homeless peoples this year while i was doing some activism and nomadism but to be honest, i am always shocked of some realities here too. Homeless peoples have the worst here and it’s going higher because of our government .. it’s infuriating. I hope your kids will escape that and that at some point you will have peace too 🤍
I just want to say I am so proud of you.
My deep disgust and hatred for the upper rich class is next level after this video
I hate them so much
Honestly makes me wonna start a Johnny Silverhand arc
You must be a hateful person. So, how much money does a person have to make to be "upper rich class" according to you? I hate vague comments like yours.
Omg, just found this channel, and officially become a fan since now ❤ the video, song, and everything is sooo good
I absolute love the work you do with your videos! they are so well put together in a comfortable pace to watch and well researched! Big fan!👏👏
As someone who grew up living under the poverty line this infuriates me to no end. These people don't understand the privelige to have nice, not extremely worn out clothes. And even then why buy this crap, you can just keep wearing the same clothes you had before and with long enough time they will get that ''worn out look'', and instead of throwing these clothes away then just keep wearing them, most people don't care anyways.
Thank u for calling out this horrible hypocrisy!
This video made me cry so hard for personal reasons. This was beautifully done. You did an amazing job explaining everything and showing proof and citations. I’m definitely subscribing. This is my first time seeing you I need more videos like these in my life.
awwww i'm so honored to have an impact on you. Thank you so much for taking the time to show your appreciation this makes me so happy!
I like that you mentioned you took a break in your video description. It shows you cared about this video and wanted it to be only about the topic, and not about you. I think it's really admirable. 🙂
Congrats! I like your videos. Many of them changed my mind and the way I see society and the fashion industry.
Why the hell would someone pay 425 for some dirty a** jeans, when you can just buy some cheap jeans and add dirt.🤣🤣🤣People just got money to blow huh and welcome back.
And to think $425 is so fairly cheap compared to what the distressed clothing cost today! 🫢 people really do have money to blow
because rich people are petty, dumb, bad with money and very narcissistic. which is why they will buy overpriced destroyed clothes, thinking it will make them appear humble
fashion is just grifting the rich. same way saudi princes agree to build giant idiotic megabuildings in the middle of the desert, completely univable.
capitalism and such
it's bizarre how toothless the reactions are in the comments to this absolutely abhorrent trend that is only a tiny part of the fucked up shit these people do
Exactly, if you got money to spare why not pay 400 bucks for dirty jeans? Turning cheap jeans into dirty jeans requires physical labour and that's for poor people.
@@jonathanmarth6426I like how u think
Thank you for making this! Ugh… I’m not surprised. As someone who has struggled with poverty and at one point wondered if I’d become homeless, this isn’t a joke. It’s agonizing wondering how to get by whether it’s figuring out what bills need to be paid or how you’re going to eat. I’ve made actual homeless friends and life on the streets is a genuine nightmare for them. But it doesn’t surprise me that the upper parts of the fashion/entertainment world would do this… ugh (again)..
King is back
Thank you for being patient 🤩
@@ibrahimkamityoutube Waiting for your videos is worth it. Lots of love from India🇮🇳❤❤❤
Omg I missed your videos so much, Ibrahim, glad you're back!
What an interesting topic! I haven't seen anyone talked about this topic, but I love the fact that YOU are the one who first introduced me to it. It's ironic that rich people take advantage of poor people even when they don't have ANYTHING for themselves, let alone having something to offer to other people.
I’ve seen videos on this topic and clicked on this thinking it would a something to put on in the background. You had me enthralled! Great research on the history and they weren’t there just to fill time and look smart like many video essays. Incredibly well done!
This is my first video of his and I too am so impressed!
IBRAHIM? OMG WELCOME BACKK!!
Thank you for being here 🤩
I think people are trying to buy the experience of what the clothes represent. Like people who wear gorp-core without hiking mountains, wearing workwear without doing any sort of manual labour, or buying pieces that have been worn down to the nub. It's this whole idea of romanticing aspects of other peoples lives and wanting to buy that without actually experiencing any of it.
I don’t think it’s just that.
A lot of people are simply interested in what they’re not.
A farmer in the countryside will wear particular fashions, a Barbour jacket or something similar. To him, it’s his regular outfit.
To someone in New York or Los Angeles this is really stylish and new to them. They don’t necessarily want to be farmers, or look like farmers. They just think the style is dope, because it’s different.
@@ShotsMerkzAll Agreed and people should be encouraged to look further afield for inspiration because that mix nets pretty interesting results. I think the problem arises when we consider appropriation or appreciation in a wider sense. How we navigate that if there are societal impacts.
@@jeangenie2689wow you caved quick. Didn’t even defend your original point, just caved right in to the other person view. 😂😂😂
@@mikeyseibert1406Caved? Not sure expanding on a point counts as caving, these types of things aren't binary they're multi-faceted. Because of this, we shouldn't be so combative we're all entitled to our own opinions on this issue. It's all about having a healthy dialogue and not tearing each other down. Hope this helps you.
@@mikeyseibert1406the 2nd guy actually made his point in the whole "people just wear other peoples attire because they think its cool" he just had a deeper dive look into it with the whole "people want to experience or be something outside of themselves" way of seeing it
I mean this is just a return to that punk ripped clothes aesthetic from the late 90s early 00s. Fashion is a giant circle that never ends so they can sell more stuff.
what an amazing video!! the editting mustve took ages! i was so engaged in the entirety of this, keep it up!!!
This is really sickening. Fashion is overrated imo.
And there was so much more crazy stuff but I took it out cause it was getting too long 🤣 the fashion world is bizarre
Fashion is great, easily one of the best ways to self-express.
The fashion industry however can go to a deserted island where they can keep up their circle-jerking without fucking over anyone else.
When I was homeless I was a lot cleaner than they were in the “homeless chic” wear. Horrid how society equates simply not having a house w being dirty and disheveled
Welcome back!
Thank you so much 😭
Excellent journalism. Didn't know the backstory before you shared it, and it's so fascinating. Subbed!
This was really informative and well put together!
While I do think there can be some interesting ideas in trying to emulate the "homeless look" and the way they choose to dress with the resources they got available, more often than not it just comes out as completely tone-def by the designers and specially from the consumers of such fashion. At face value, I think brands like valenciaga do genuinely interesting pieces that oscillate somewhere between art and a social experiment. The issue comes when a bunch of rich clout chaser snobs jump into the wagon and kill any resemblance of a statement in this fashion pieces, which it ends up being a bit ironic since they're the only people that would ever buy that shit and probably the only reason it exists in the first place.
You’ve worded this so well! 👏🏽👏🏽 thank you so much for taking your time to share your thoughts. I loved reading this. Exactly it does end up being ironic
Homeless don't get to "choose" how they dress, the resources they *have* available and the environment they find themselves in dictate what they wear, and everything else for that matter. There are no choices.
According to some fashion designers in this video it's about saving the earth. lol Pathetic.
If we’re going to eat the rich, have a trained chef remove the botox safely.
This was such an interesting watch... really opened my eyes from an historical and social perspective. I'll admit - I've never understood fashion trends - i've always preferred basic so I can wear year after year... and I expect I will for years to come.
Thank you for sharing.
what really gets me is…most, if not all of these “pieces” are incredibly attainable by buying/thrifting a regular article of clothing and cutting/beating/staining the shit out of it. there, it’s ruined. now it’s worth a hundred more dollars. what????
Brooo.... Thanks for pointing this out to me. I'll go pick up my dirty sets of clothes that I used during the construction of my house, that I now keep in the garage for when I do woodworking or repair my car etc. Put them on, go to the next gala event and I'll be the most stylish person in the room!
At last, someone remembers their password.
HAHAAHAHAHAHAHA screaming 😭🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Ibrahim!!!!! As always, so astute! One of the best TH-camrs ever. This essay is so philosophically dissecting. It's misleading to someone who might not know Ibrahim's channel to think it's just a cute boy talking about fashion. It is anything but.
Hahah you are sooooo lovely!! Thank you so much for your kind words 😭 this makes me so happy
@@ibrahimkamityoutube- I found this vid by accident, or the algorithm gods! I put it on for background also, but was gripped to the TV!! I'm old enough to remember punk, grunge and chav all going on in the UK. H***N chic too. Really well done vid, you really went into all the history/societal reasons behind it all. I'm gonna check out some of your other stuff now!
There has definitely also been a big shift regarding thrifting.
If you bought your clothes at the thrift store, people would think you were gross. When it became a trend all of the sudden it was socially acceptable and cool and now you have an unlimited amount of IG pages reselling thrifted clothes for insane amounts of prices. This all has resulted in a big price increase in every thrift store everywhere it seems :/
What a brilliant video, so happy when people expose the horrors of the clothing industry even though I’m a hypocrite I’m trying to not buy unless I need x
Thank you Ibrahim for spreading this information. The time and effort you put into this video is appreciated and makes a difference.
everything has been so commodified, at this point they are literally selling the "dirt" side of life, and ppl are still buying it.
I’m glad you spoke about the true deprived people who are suffering the most yet causing the least harm to the planet. The Western world is so cruel
Glad I didn't watch past 17 minutes if all this video was going to end up being about was "saving the planet".
Oh my god! Welcome back - No one uses archive like this channel!
Hehe thank you soooo much I genuinely appreciate it cause I do put spend a good amount of time deep diving way back 😂
What really fucks me over with this is that my dad gets home from his carpentry job wearing clothes exactly like that and city people tweak over them💀
omg i didn't even know it was you till i saw YOU!i'm so glad you're okkk
I once made a backpack out of an old industrial PPE bag using belts for shoulder straps because I couldn’t afford a new backpack or proper materials. I get a lot of compliments for it. Fantastic video, heartbreaking but perfect, I wish I was still teaching this would be excellent for a classroom discussion.
and the king is back!!! it's been so long!
Thank you!! 🤩
It's so frustrating seeing privileged people trying to look like homeless people. Like... What are you doing , please just get normal clothes😭
rich fashion is basically an animecon but cosplaying homeless people
'i was scrolling on instagram...' that's your first mistake lol
Was WAITING for this for SOOOOO longggg. Worth it
Yayyy I’m glad! Thanks for waiting 🙏🏽
The number of meals and warm nights they could instead pay to actual homeless people for that money... Some people are rotten to the bone
Kind of like how the Dems wasted 1 billion dollars paying for advertisements and consultants instead of helping people in crisis.
Bro this shit is actually so gross, knowing the same people who are inspired by “the homeless community” would scoff if they saw a homeless person wearing the same thing
Wow that's a really cool video! Glad that you bring this idea up. As for me I think art performances can use some inspiration from poverty they will donate, or help their "inspiration" in deed. (Like really)
And the part was what really hurt me is how about being punk or being hippie turned into "I saw that boho is again popular on tiktok so let's go thrift😊🌸" (and in the end of the video there are a five bags full of clothing, but in the next video channel drops the same video with another aesthetic )
Or some brands sailing punk-coded clothes for thousands... do you even know what is it...?
what an oxymoron.... these people are really selling grunge icon by parts..
It's a culture, it's not about safety pins, flower prints, layering, you-!
❤Great material!!! Bravo! 👏✨