@@nickfury8973 its kinda like real Life if you think about It. How many flops have we had over the years when people talk about the Next Messi the next whatever and they end up not really doing that much afterwards ahahaha
I love the Idea of making a video discussing with attributes are most important for each role! That is something i struggelt alot with when i was new to FM.
I started on Championship manager on the Amiga,with a floppy disk. I've bought the game every year and i'm thoroughly enioying your videos. Thanks for your work! Honestly. Brilliantly informative to even folk like myself. I'm a Scotsman that loves the game,its just a wonderful distraction in life eh. I'm now 44 and i cannae believe how many years i've playing it! Anyway keep up the great work and almost professional tilt at FM. Buen camino
Wow, making me feel young over here with my mere 17ish years on the game, haha. Thrilled that you're enjoying it, and absolutely, it's the very best distraction. And the chance to be spiteful and boot the game up after your own team struggles a bit and go "no gaffer, like this, you shoulda played 'im as a AP instead!!"
Would love a future video about attributes and roles or just a deeper dive into each attribute. Absolutely love the videos, they dive so deep and are so clear. Amazing stuff mate!
This is pure gold! Thank you, gracias. Eres el mejor, Avgdad! And yes, I would like to see more videos about attributes, please. (What could be the benchmark for players in Level 8 in England?) Thank you.
I'd say each level drops by one, at least that's my rule of thumb. But just scan the top couple of teams in the div and see where they're at - looking at their best few players should tell you what you need to aim for if you want promotion
Nice video but when you were looking at Bajčetić and mentioned big matches must be average because it’s not on the coach report, don’t forget that it’s hidden from that report until a certain age (22 I think).
Hi, first of all, congrats for your content. I play FM since CM, and your content makes-me learn above this long time playing the game. I've one suggestion for further videos: oposition instruccions. I feel this is my weakness in the game and i don't find real good content on youtube. No one explains with depth like you.
The problem with atributes, CA, PA and all that is that its very easy to misinterpret and end up underperforming or over performing without really understanding why. Its understanding that its key. Atributes per position are weighted and then you derive the mean sum after you apply the weight modifier. That in theory gives you the CA. All good so far. It doesnt tell you the consistency of the player as you perfectly put in this video, nor the potential to reach it (professionalism, adaptability, etc) not does it tell you the type of player that you have and if they will succeed in your tactic. We all have a memory of that one player that regularly overperforms all your other signings that should in theory outshine that one dude. This is why. A physical af cb will not play the same as a very technical, confortable with the ball but still good at defense (due to other reasons than physicality) cb. This is the nature of the beast we are dealing with here. Ofc at 160+ CA this will matter less and less because the players get so good It mostly dont matter anymore
I'm with you, but I -think- Cannavaro was kind of a case in point around the time of the change since in-game he wasn't that good whereas IRL he was a beast aerially too and was winning the Bd'O
They are dependent but cannot be considered tightly dependent. There are 5'9 dudes out there dunking. You can have springs for legs and on the other hand be tall with 0 physicality. Ofc there should be modifiers and thresholds but not even in real Life is that determinant
I love these videos, so detailed! Do you have a spreadsheet for the attributes you are looking for each roll? Would be very handy to have as a cheat sheet for a new player like myself. Thanks
The McTominay discussion you mentioned his lack of of the ball in DM so isn’t that Positioning? Was hoping you were going to make the connection as you brought that up in the stat straight after so was hoping you would make the connection
Just wanted to add I am binge watching your content so informative I’ve learned so much and am seeing the results in my games. Hadn’t played FM since 2011 so only returned this year. Keep up the great work love the content if you ever do twitch or YT live I would love to interact and pick your brain on things
thank you mate! It's something I'd like to try one day, but summer is rough with a full time job and kids. Might have more time to try it in autumn and winter
I'd look at 13 or so being functional for the league, but you can't get away with weak mentals since it's a top league. I'd also probs want 15+ on a few guys in certain areas, like passing+vision for a playmaker, finishing on an AF, jumping on CBs and TM, and so on, especially if I want to go for podium or challenge PSG
You know, I've not seen controversy do anything? Or is it how likely the player will have a new article saying "so-and-so is having a clash with head coach because he couldn't join XYZ club" ? Otherwise, it doesn't seem to have an impact on my players.
imo you want people who win the ball, then people who execute the counter (fluid passing or direct running). So depending on which I'd look for like, passing+vision+agility+balance+off the ball on the counterattackers, or for direct counters a specific instigator like a DLP with passing+vision plus a winger and a striker with some pace, accel, and dribbling
@@theavgdad ok Lets see if we can produce an awesome tactic. Im playing with sunderland and promoted to prem via play offs, they have some average prem players and a very young squad. My aim is a 433 possesion based and trying to not concede many. Defence iwbl s, cd d, libero d,ifb d. My therory here is based on your vids and i think this is a good solid base to start with. PI;s iwb take fewer risks, close down more,mark tighter, tackle harder. cd d close down more,take fewer risks and mark tighter, Libero same as cd. ifb d take fewer risks,ckose down more,shoot less and mark tighter Tell me what you think so far all this is a WIP.
Onto the midfield 3 this ones a little more tricky as the options are huge but i settled on a Mezzala a, Advance Playmaker s and Half Back d. with thse ive added Mez shoot less,mark tighter,cross less my therory being he wont get tangled up doing more elaborate stuff. AP hold position,mark tighter again nothing elaborate just do the basics and the HB take fewer risks,close down less,shoot less,ease of tackles with him i wanted him to not move and stay deep .
@@Heart0verheight3 what is his position. Note that flair is an offensive attribute. It's a natural counter for marking. So as as CB, for example, that attr means nothing. I prefer strength over flair for a CB.
not at all, it just means he's unlikely to do unexpected stuff. If he's a winger or treq or something a lack of flair will hurt him a bit, but other attributes will make up for it even in these positions - like my Robertson example. I wouldn't worry at all about low flair unless the player's specific job is to dribble and, to a lesser extent, create
Most of them i don't really care... but determination is a must, at least for me.. I mean I just let it flow as long my players determination is high..
Another of your great videos released. When it comes to decay and nat. fit., there is no relation, sadly. Also Messis Teamwork are way to high, it should be a 1.
hahah I can see where you're coming from with Messi! Then again, his high teamwork means that he'll listen to you and give it a try if you play him as PF, would be funny to see
With all due respect, you spent almost an hour talking about something that everyone already knows in the game. High value the player will be better. I thought there was some tip about grouping certain attributes. Anyway, good luck.
You made a 57-minute video. You made a 57-minute video. YOU MADE A 57-MINUTE VIDEO. And to top it off, the way you pronounce "attributes" is annoying. I assume you're a first language speaker of English? How are you pronouncing "attributes" incorrectly???
Wonderkid status depends on age and CA but not PA. So technically you can have a 135/140 wonderkid.
oh, good to know! Will pin this comment
Yes. I have seen AI buying these peaking early wonderkids
Yea, a wonderkid is someone who is exceptional at something for their age, as oppose to someone who will be good at something in the future.
@@nickfury8973 its kinda like real Life if you think about It. How many flops have we had over the years when people talk about the Next Messi the next whatever and they end up not really doing that much afterwards ahahaha
I love the Idea of making a video discussing with attributes are most important for each role! That is something i struggelt alot with when i was new to FM.
Well then. Now I'm gonna do it!
Thank you!
I started on Championship manager on the Amiga,with a floppy disk. I've bought the game every year and i'm thoroughly enioying your videos. Thanks for your work! Honestly. Brilliantly informative to even folk like myself. I'm a Scotsman that loves the game,its just a wonderful distraction in life eh. I'm now 44 and i cannae believe how many years i've playing it! Anyway keep up the great work and almost professional tilt at FM. Buen camino
Wow, making me feel young over here with my mere 17ish years on the game, haha. Thrilled that you're enjoying it, and absolutely, it's the very best distraction. And the chance to be spiteful and boot the game up after your own team struggles a bit and go "no gaffer, like this, you shoulda played 'im as a AP instead!!"
@@theavgdad haha! Aye,intae thum! "I know better....I'll show them....humph"
Would love a future video about attributes and roles or just a deeper dive into each attribute. Absolutely love the videos, they dive so deep and are so clear. Amazing stuff mate!
Another great vid man! Yes I would personally love another vid breaking down attributes for specific positions :)
Great video and needed in the community. Thanks! Don't worry about the length, we needed a deep dive.
I would do anything for a which attributes for each role video or even a which attributes for each tactic!🎉
Should your team counter press? Players need this and that. Should your team work the ball into the box? Players need this and that.
This guy knows beginner pain point. FM just getting more fun every time I watch your vdo. Thank!
This is pure gold! Thank you, gracias. Eres el mejor, Avgdad! And yes, I would like to see more videos about attributes, please. (What could be the benchmark for players in Level 8 in England?) Thank you.
I'd say each level drops by one, at least that's my rule of thumb. But just scan the top couple of teams in the div and see where they're at - looking at their best few players should tell you what you need to aim for if you want promotion
Thanks for these great videos man i just discover your channel recently i appreciate for all of your effort peace
You got it, I'll be throwing it out next week :)
Nice video but when you were looking at Bajčetić and mentioned big matches must be average because it’s not on the coach report, don’t forget that it’s hidden from that report until a certain age (22 I think).
great point! giving this a like, heart, and everything I can to make sure it's visible
I was here for the attributes but I stayed for the Antony shade.
Great video. Really useful.
Hi, first of all, congrats for your content. I play FM since CM, and your content makes-me learn above this long time playing the game.
I've one suggestion for further videos: oposition instruccions. I feel this is my weakness in the game and i don't find real good content on youtube. No one explains with depth like you.
If you search a different youtuber named "bustthenet gaming" he just put out a really nice oppo instruction vid :)
@@greenguy1408 i know bustthenet, but i feel this guy explains the game in better way for my approach, but thanks anyway
thank you :) Yes, defo got on coming on OIs
The problem with atributes, CA, PA and all that is that its very easy to misinterpret and end up underperforming or over performing without really understanding why. Its understanding that its key. Atributes per position are weighted and then you derive the mean sum after you apply the weight modifier. That in theory gives you the CA. All good so far. It doesnt tell you the consistency of the player as you perfectly put in this video, nor the potential to reach it (professionalism, adaptability, etc) not does it tell you the type of player that you have and if they will succeed in your tactic. We all have a memory of that one player that regularly overperforms all your other signings that should in theory outshine that one dude. This is why. A physical af cb will not play the same as a very technical, confortable with the ball but still good at defense (due to other reasons than physicality) cb. This is the nature of the beast we are dealing with here. Ofc at 160+ CA this will matter less and less because the players get so good It mostly dont matter anymore
It really bothers me that Height and Jumping aren't independent attributes, would add much more flavour to the game.
I'm with you, but I -think- Cannavaro was kind of a case in point around the time of the change since in-game he wasn't that good whereas IRL he was a beast aerially too and was winning the Bd'O
They are dependent but cannot be considered tightly dependent. There are 5'9 dudes out there dunking. You can have springs for legs and on the other hand be tall with 0 physicality. Ofc there should be modifiers and thresholds but not even in real Life is that determinant
very nice
I love these videos, so detailed! Do you have a spreadsheet for the attributes you are looking for each roll? Would be very handy to have as a cheat sheet for a new player like myself. Thanks
I also would love the see a video of attribut/role combos
I don't have a SS, but defo planning a video on this - it's overdue, actually, definitely coming soon!
@@theavgdadThank you, and keep up the good work with the videos
@16:55 you can't see big matches until the player becomes 22 (aka when potential is no longer nebulous)
Drop as much videos as possible
The McTominay discussion you mentioned his lack of of the ball in DM so isn’t that Positioning? Was hoping you were going to make the connection as you brought that up in the stat straight after so was hoping you would make the connection
Just wanted to add I am binge watching your content so informative I’ve learned so much and am seeing the results in my games. Hadn’t played FM since 2011 so only returned this year. Keep up the great work love the content if you ever do twitch or YT live I would love to interact and pick your brain on things
thank you mate! It's something I'd like to try one day, but summer is rough with a full time job and kids. Might have more time to try it in autumn and winter
Any thoughts of benchmark for french Ligue 1?
I'd look at 13 or so being functional for the league, but you can't get away with weak mentals since it's a top league. I'd also probs want 15+ on a few guys in certain areas, like passing+vision for a playmaker, finishing on an AF, jumping on CBs and TM, and so on, especially if I want to go for podium or challenge PSG
You know, I've not seen controversy do anything?
Or is it how likely the player will have a new article saying "so-and-so is having a clash with head coach because he couldn't join XYZ club" ?
Otherwise, it doesn't seem to have an impact on my players.
Whats the best attributes to counter attack?
imo you want people who win the ball, then people who execute the counter (fluid passing or direct running). So depending on which I'd look for like, passing+vision+agility+balance+off the ball on the counterattackers, or for direct counters a specific instigator like a DLP with passing+vision plus a winger and a striker with some pace, accel, and dribbling
Great set of videos and I'm playing 433 I would be intrigued from using every video what would you make of my line up I can't seem to upload files
I need to start a Discord one of these days for this, I think. Can you describe your lineup here?
@@theavgdad yes I can describe it will add as much info as possible for you to disect and discuss it
@@gavinhaywood9983 please do, waiting for it!
@@theavgdad ok Lets see if we can produce an awesome tactic. Im playing with sunderland and promoted to prem via play offs, they have some average prem players and a very young squad. My aim is a 433 possesion based and trying to not concede many. Defence iwbl s, cd d, libero d,ifb d. My therory here is based on your vids and i think this is a good solid base to start with. PI;s iwb take fewer risks, close down more,mark tighter, tackle harder. cd d close down more,take fewer risks and mark tighter, Libero same as cd. ifb d take fewer risks,ckose down more,shoot less and mark tighter Tell me what you think so far all this is a WIP.
Onto the midfield 3 this ones a little more tricky as the options are huge but i settled on a Mezzala a, Advance Playmaker s and Half Back d. with thse ive added Mez shoot less,mark tighter,cross less my therory being he wont get tangled up doing more elaborate stuff. AP hold position,mark tighter again nothing elaborate just do the basics and the HB take fewer risks,close down less,shoot less,ease of tackles with him i wanted him to not move and stay deep .
For example I have a player with 1 flair does that mean he really is unusable against more experienced opposition like it claims he is
Flair 1 player with strength 20 (or 18-19) is a beast still.
@@jonpaul3868well it’s a young player so he doesn’t have that much strength I’m just trying to figure out if it’s worth trying to develop him or not
@@Heart0verheight3 what is his position. Note that flair is an offensive attribute. It's a natural counter for marking. So as as CB, for example, that attr means nothing. I prefer strength over flair for a CB.
not at all, it just means he's unlikely to do unexpected stuff. If he's a winger or treq or something a lack of flair will hurt him a bit, but other attributes will make up for it even in these positions - like my Robertson example. I wouldn't worry at all about low flair unless the player's specific job is to dribble and, to a lesser extent, create
Most of them i don't really care... but determination is a must, at least for me.. I mean I just let it flow as long my players determination is high..
same here, actually! Love me some high determination
Another of your great videos released.
When it comes to decay and nat. fit., there is no relation, sadly.
Also Messis Teamwork are way to high, it should be a 1.
hahah I can see where you're coming from with Messi! Then again, his high teamwork means that he'll listen to you and give it a try if you play him as PF, would be funny to see
I really enjoy your videos, great work! Just wish you weren't a scouser lol constructive advice from a manc, please use other player examples 😂
But like... they're right there to be used! :P
😂 👍🏻 @@theavgdad
some hero should put time stamps for us :)
49:54 I laugh so hard.😂😂😂😂😂
:D
With all due respect, you spent almost an hour talking about something that everyone already knows in the game. High value the player will be better. I thought there was some tip about grouping certain attributes. Anyway, good luck.
fair enough!
I didn't know this stuff, just started playing fm few days ago. Don't assume everyone knows what you know.
It's a very useful video for newer ppl
You made a 57-minute video. You made a 57-minute video. YOU MADE A 57-MINUTE VIDEO.
And to top it off, the way you pronounce "attributes" is annoying. I assume you're a first language speaker of English? How are you pronouncing "attributes" incorrectly???