1:25 Enganche (static playmaker) 9:24 Advanced Playmaker (playmaker with more freedom to create for others; playmaker) 11:38 Attacking Midfielder Support (Similar to AP, but NO playmaker) 12:54 Attacking Midfielder Attack (Goalscorer; very customizable role) 20:54 Shadow Striker (More rigid/limited version of the AM[AT]) 27:10 Trequartista (Like AP, but almost no defence unless you have player with high work rate)
Finally figured why I couldn't get consistent results with other AMC formations, yet I did great with the AMC on attack. It's the wings. It's odd, because forwards have no restrictions to how they combine with wingers based on whether they stay wide or not, the AMC does. The AMC on support links up better with inverting wingers, the one on attack is better off with ones that stay wide. The type of forward in front doesn't matter nearly as much. All of them work to a different degree. * Both AMC types ended up doing better with wings on support. The AMC on Support had much better success with forwards that move into channels. Either can play with wide and inverting wingers, but they're not equally as good with both. Enganche probably confuses people as being a bad, outdated role that gets marked out of the game. I spent some time playing him. We're winning games and he's getting those key passes in. It's just that because he holds position like a Target Man or Poacher he gets used as a decoy by the other players most of the time. He contributes by existing. He doesn't have to get the ball a lot despite being the best creator in the team. He has to make the most out of the few times he does.
@@theavgdad With Wingers on Support and an AF they're amazing on counters. Both get a lot of space to dribble between defenders. Looked at some footage of Kaka again and now I get it why his teammates positioned so far away from him. I used to think it was due to poor link up and he was "forced" to dribble with no nearby short options. I'll be playing the AMC on Support a lot more from now on though. My brain's wired for Total Football and I prefer short passing formations.
Love your videos! A cool video idea that might be fun to see would be if you took a struggling IRL clubs like man united and do a walk through video of how you would set up their starting 11 and tactics :)
Hey man, I love your videos, really. I understand a lot more about the game right now. Always have been struggling to create my tactics ( i have like 1 year of playing FM), but now i have more awareness about the tactics and all of the things that happens in the game. Have a great week (sorry if my english isn't great)
If you are playing a 433 and having a hard time get chances, try moving a winger one step inwards and use him as an offset shadowstriker. This will open up the flank more for a wingback to swing in those crosses. I usually combine this with a BBM to overload the inside even more and open up the space for the wingback. And then with a tall targetman in the box you will get alot of goals from the crosses.
@@theavgdad I honestly don’t know really. I haven’t had any issues with the defence when doing this. So I guess the SS either covers the flank off the lcm moves out a bit and the SS covers the middle. Guess I need to study this more deeply and come back to you with an answer. 🙂
Did some testing yesterday and it looks like it lacks in defense if your opponents play alot down the wing. Sometimes the LCM had to move out to cover the flank and sometimes the SS covered the area. But it might be worth the gamble if you need to change up the game and get some goals. It did work really well against teams that play the narrow 442 diamond though.
VOL interferes so much to AM’s movements thanks to the positional play. The reason why your AM is usually on the left side was not because of his player instructions. He was constantly moving towards to the left because your right sided DM was forcing him to do Lol. I wish we had a chance to turn on and off the positional play.
You're right, and I see where you're coming from! My dream, though, is the FM where we can make a 442 like Burnley-Dyche and have the strikers and CMs swap roles (AF to PFs for example) based on where the ball is! Just hoping positional play is a building block
@@theavgdad at least we should have an opportunity to set our formation and roles based on different phases of the game. I should be able to press in 4-4-2 formation while playing 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1
@@berkeutgin9563 Agreed, although have you tried to tweak the individual player instructions a bit there with things like closing down, tackling, and specific player marking? It's not perfect, but you can manipulate your pressing shape a little bit this way
@@theavgdadyou can kind of do this no? you can go to the player tab in tactics and tell certain players to swap positions with someone. it doesn’t work fully like that but it should kind of no?
A few things to be addressed in this video. Otherwise, good video. 1. Am (a) + AF (a) is actually the most lethal combination in FM rn. It has been found that overloading the box is a lot more important than occupying different spaces. In fact, you would want to overcrowd the box as much as you can with roles like IF, AM (a) and SS(a) to some extent. 2. A support striker is not a really good fit for the SS (a). I know this is counter intuitive, but, the best role for a striker to be alongside the SS is AF (a). Why? Most supportive strikers are "ball magnets," similarly to playmaker roles. These roles are extremely unfavorable in the current meta. 3. "Take more risks" is the most important instruction regardless of the combination around the no10 position. It's been tested multiple times that this instruction is simply a must and removing it harms the tactic. Again, good video mate. Keep up the good work.
Yeah ur right but you’re talking about breaking the match engine by using certain roles and combinations. Most of us like the realism when it comes to tactic and tend to apply real life tactical logic to our playing style and this channel is all about that.
@@berkeutgin9563 Yes, I'm all for the realism and all. But these are guides for beginners. I personally believe that saying something is "wrong" or "unfit" is rather not too helpful. You don't have to follow meta-tactics. But, to say certain things that work so well with the meta "wrong" isn't really good also, imo.
@@funkyw2838 it's not wrong. You will still see your dlf (s) drop deep and feed your SS or AM(a) from there. But it won't be beneficial as using SS and AF together because it's breaking the match engine. But I understand your point here. I wish they made a match engine that doesn't be exposed by certain roles.
@@funkyw2838he's never said anything was "wrong", in fact he said the opposite that you can make anything work. I'd argue teaching beginners what is possibly going wrong with roles and suggesting the generally more accepted real life partnerships is a better teaching system. As he has then stated you can do it...but be prepared to have to try and make it work. In fact I'd argue your teaching them to use these roles with no reason as to why it works except ME issues, which if fixed leave a newcomer a bit stuffed really.
@@TheFazer1992 the issue isn’t the ME, it’s how effective these roles are in the current meta. Given clubs are a lot more well versed in applying pressure, playmaker roles are essentially rendered weakened. AF for instance, is a really good role at nailing the defense, which creates space for the AF. Irl, this is actually a really common partnership, especially in German football.
The AMA works fine with Poacher/Target Man on Attack. They don't get in each other's way. The AMA will move between the lines, dribble through the halfspaces, or go all the way to the corners to cross. Those strikers don't move between the lines and don't move with the ball, so this situation where the AMS plays a one-two throughball to them is an extreme rarity and they will occupy the same vertical channel the majority of the game. Without an AMA there is no central second box threat, unless another midfielder below is set on attack. The Enganche is bit weird to use. He operates a bit like the target man - sits holding position in a danger zone while the inverted wingers run past him. He doesn't get as many touches from what I tested as a normal AMC on support because he gets used as a decoy most of the time. A bit like what happens with the Poacher. He sits and waits for his moments. He is not going to press much and modern top level teams press high and intense. His marking is also low effort and the opposition DM won't be sweating much. When the ball gets cleared upfield on the counter he's almost never going to beat the DM to it. He doesn't tackle, AMS does. The runs made by the players around him will free him from his marker the same way an AF drags CBs away from the Target Forward. An AF above attacking the channels and a CM on attack below make it so the only way he gets "marked out of he game" is if they have incredible close man marking. The last time someone tried to tight man mark like that they lost 7-0 to Liverpool. When an attacker makes a run through a zone occupied by a teammate it becomes an attacking overload as one defender can't track both consistently and they have no time to think should they stay put, or risk messing up the shape when a teammate also leaves their shared zone's marker to stop the runner. Modern football didn't solve central high pivots out of the game, defensive responsibility did. A Target Man on attack is still a supporting striker in the engine. They still drop down, but from higher. They still look to create more than score. What happens with a Target Man on Attack and a Shadow Striker below is they don't start in the same area. Both will and should get in the box. The outcome of a Shadow Striker/AMA paired with a striker on support is that they do the same thing they would if the striker was set on attack, but the attacking midfield is squished tightly and the attacking midfielder can't dribble. That Target Man on attack keeps the pocket of space for the SS to exploit by threatening the backline. DLF on attack will also drop down, but from higher, and when he dribbles and attacks channels, it will be primarily in positions to create rather than score.
@@theavgdadIt's my desperate attempt at getting back at the game. Currently I'm at 2485 hours played and I still feel like I barely know the minimum about how the game works. I spent over 400 hours looking at full matches to come to these conclusions. Even now when I play normally I will watch every game in full, because I can finally enjoy the tactics in motion. More than 800 of those hours were pure frustration and I don't want others to go through that. I watch/read every tutorial I come across just to see what I could still be missing.
Tempo is how quickly and urgently your players are taking actions on the ball - too high and they may rush and make bad decisions, too slow and the opposition might be able to regroup into shape. Rule of thumb is to use a similar tempo to your passing directness, but there are exceptions - you can play short pass + high tempo if you have a top quality team, and I think slow tempo but long passing suits styles like Catenaccio
I'm trying to create a tactic which has a 442 type formation which then transforms into a 343 diamond midfield structure in possession, just can't figure out how to exactly get my second striker to act as the cam in the diamond though
@@bamg7678 got any suggestions on roles for the midfield 4? In defense I have my right back as IFB and left back as WB so the WB provides width on the left
@@krishsharma3329 in midfield, of course it all depends on your players, but I would say one defensive midfielder(maybe a ball winning midfielder) and a playmaker one(this one depends more on the players you have but maybe a deep lying playmaker will give you more stability) and then on the right you can have a winger/inverted winger
Bamg has the right idea IMO if you want your second striker to do it, one of the support strikers like f9, dlfs or pfs will do it in different ways based on what you want. You've mentioned IFB r and WB l, so I assume two of the 4 midfielders make up the front 3 somehow and the other two are holding or more static - since you said diamond, I assume LtoR: IWa, CMd, CAR, Wa?
@@theavgdad so actually I'm aiming the front three to be my wing back on left and a winger on the right, so basically aiming for my left mid to become a LCM type, my right CDM to become the RCM, currently the roles of midfield are: L to R : WP(S/A), DM(D), volante (S) , W(A) Problem with this is the DM a lot of times doesn't really come central and it many times just remains a double pivot instead of forming a diamond shape
Thanks for your great videos! Love it! Just one minor thing: it hurts a little every time you say "enganche". This is not a French word. Try to pronounce it like "ann-gun-che". (Better yet, google "enganche pronunciation" and hear a Spanish speaker say it).
Good question, I think your choices are either AMs or AMa depending on which raum you want to deut, the hole or up in the box. AMa will better match the RMD's attacking nature though, simply by virtue of mentality. Then imo it's a matter of replicating the instructions, I'd add roam from position, move into channels, get further forward (if it's an AMa), short passing and cross less. There'll still be slight differences though since the AM has different options in each situation, but by and large this should come close
I caaaan, but may not do that for a while. Main rule of thumb, make sure the APa has runners in front of him to hit. Maybe an AF and a Wa or IFa, for example. Else he's got no-one to assist
@@theavgdad I'd really, REALLY like to see that. I've been struggling with it for months. Unless I use my AMC to crowd the box, he's always the attacking player with the lowest rating in my team, even though he's supposed to be one of my best players
I like your videos, but please learn how to pronounce Enganche. It’s a Spanish word, not a French one. It’s pronounced very straightforward, the ending is like in Che Guevara.
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This is the only video that has ever explained AP, AMC, SS, T and E prefectly. I just subscribed!! you doing great bro.
I appreciate that! thank you :)
these are the best in depth videos i have seen, so well explained.
1:25 Enganche (static playmaker)
9:24 Advanced Playmaker (playmaker with more freedom to create for others; playmaker)
11:38 Attacking Midfielder Support (Similar to AP, but NO playmaker)
12:54 Attacking Midfielder Attack (Goalscorer; very customizable role)
20:54 Shadow Striker (More rigid/limited version of the AM[AT])
27:10 Trequartista (Like AP, but almost no defence unless you have player with high work rate)
This channel is pure gold. Changed the way i play the game.
Finally figured why I couldn't get consistent results with other AMC formations, yet I did great with the AMC on attack. It's the wings. It's odd, because forwards have no restrictions to how they combine with wingers based on whether they stay wide or not, the AMC does. The AMC on support links up better with inverting wingers, the one on attack is better off with ones that stay wide. The type of forward in front doesn't matter nearly as much. All of them work to a different degree.
* Both AMC types ended up doing better with wings on support. The AMC on Support had much better success with forwards that move into channels. Either can play with wide and inverting wingers, but they're not equally as good with both.
Enganche probably confuses people as being a bad, outdated role that gets marked out of the game. I spent some time playing him. We're winning games and he's getting those key passes in. It's just that because he holds position like a Target Man or Poacher he gets used as a decoy by the other players most of the time. He contributes by existing. He doesn't have to get the ball a lot despite being the best creator in the team. He has to make the most out of the few times he does.
AMa with Ws is really fun, I've found!
@@theavgdad With Wingers on Support and an AF they're amazing on counters. Both get a lot of space to dribble between defenders. Looked at some footage of Kaka again and now I get it why his teammates positioned so far away from him. I used to think it was due to poor link up and he was "forced" to dribble with no nearby short options.
I'll be playing the AMC on Support a lot more from now on though. My brain's wired for Total Football and I prefer short passing formations.
Love your videos! A cool video idea that might be fun to see would be if you took a struggling IRL clubs like man united and do a walk through video of how you would set up their starting 11 and tactics :)
thank you, and that's a neat idea! I will think on that a bit and see if it's something I want to do :)
Hey man, I love your videos, really. I understand a lot more about the game right now. Always have been struggling to create my tactics ( i have like 1 year of playing FM), but now i have more awareness about the tactics and all of the things that happens in the game.
Have a great week
(sorry if my english isn't great)
thank you so much for the feedback, very glad to help with the understanding :D
Awesome series. Thank you again.
You have succesfully ignited my tactical flame🤝
lemme know what you cook up! :D
I love your videos man, makes me happy to see you uploaded
Thank you for the videos, always helpful.
Glad you like them!
Another great video, thanks for the variety with the Bruno example 😂❤
I was trying to be nice this time!!
As new to fm thank you so much for these videos
My pleasure!
If you are playing a 433 and having a hard time get chances, try moving a winger one step inwards and use him as an offset shadowstriker. This will open up the flank more for a wingback to swing in those crosses. I usually combine this with a BBM to overload the inside even more and open up the space for the wingback. And then with a tall targetman in the box you will get alot of goals from the crosses.
the offset is a neat idea! How does that work in defense? Does the offset SS get out to cover a bit?
@@theavgdad I honestly don’t know really. I haven’t had any issues with the defence when doing this. So I guess the SS either covers the flank off the lcm moves out a bit and the SS covers the middle. Guess I need to study this more deeply and come back to you with an answer. 🙂
Did some testing yesterday and it looks like it lacks in defense if your opponents play alot down the wing. Sometimes the LCM had to move out to cover the flank and sometimes the SS covered the area. But it might be worth the gamble if you need to change up the game and get some goals. It did work really well against teams that play the narrow 442 diamond though.
@@dborgqvist that tracks, yeah! Sounds like a fun option when chasing a game, overloading the box and acknowledging the risk of being exploited wide!
Love your channel my guy🙏🏽💜
thank you!!
VOL interferes so much to AM’s movements thanks to the positional play. The reason why your AM is usually on the left side was not because of his player instructions. He was constantly moving towards to the left because your right sided DM was forcing him to do Lol. I wish we had a chance to turn on and off the positional play.
You're right, and I see where you're coming from! My dream, though, is the FM where we can make a 442 like Burnley-Dyche and have the strikers and CMs swap roles (AF to PFs for example) based on where the ball is! Just hoping positional play is a building block
@@theavgdad at least we should have an opportunity to set our formation and roles based on different phases of the game. I should be able to press in 4-4-2 formation while playing 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1
@@berkeutgin9563 Agreed, although have you tried to tweak the individual player instructions a bit there with things like closing down, tackling, and specific player marking? It's not perfect, but you can manipulate your pressing shape a little bit this way
@@theavgdadyou can kind of do this no? you can go to the player tab in tactics and tell certain players to swap positions with someone. it doesn’t work fully like that but it should kind of no?
A few things to be addressed in this video. Otherwise, good video.
1. Am (a) + AF (a) is actually the most lethal combination in FM rn. It has been found that overloading the box is a lot more important than occupying different spaces. In fact, you would want to overcrowd the box as much as you can with roles like IF, AM (a) and SS(a) to some extent.
2. A support striker is not a really good fit for the SS (a). I know this is counter intuitive, but, the best role for a striker to be alongside the SS is AF (a). Why? Most supportive strikers are "ball magnets," similarly to playmaker roles. These roles are extremely unfavorable in the current meta.
3. "Take more risks" is the most important instruction regardless of the combination around the no10 position. It's been tested multiple times that this instruction is simply a must and removing it harms the tactic.
Again, good video mate. Keep up the good work.
Yeah ur right but you’re talking about breaking the match engine by using certain roles and combinations. Most of us like the realism when it comes to tactic and tend to apply real life tactical logic to our playing style and this channel is all about that.
@@berkeutgin9563 Yes, I'm all for the realism and all. But these are guides for beginners. I personally believe that saying something is "wrong" or "unfit" is rather not too helpful. You don't have to follow meta-tactics. But, to say certain things that work so well with the meta "wrong" isn't really good also, imo.
@@funkyw2838 it's not wrong. You will still see your dlf (s) drop deep and feed your SS or AM(a) from there. But it won't be beneficial as using SS and AF together because it's breaking the match engine. But I understand your point here. I wish they made a match engine that doesn't be exposed by certain roles.
@@funkyw2838he's never said anything was "wrong", in fact he said the opposite that you can make anything work. I'd argue teaching beginners what is possibly going wrong with roles and suggesting the generally more accepted real life partnerships is a better teaching system. As he has then stated you can do it...but be prepared to have to try and make it work.
In fact I'd argue your teaching them to use these roles with no reason as to why it works except ME issues, which if fixed leave a newcomer a bit stuffed really.
@@TheFazer1992 the issue isn’t the ME, it’s how effective these roles are in the current meta. Given clubs are a lot more well versed in applying pressure, playmaker roles are essentially rendered weakened.
AF for instance, is a really good role at nailing the defense, which creates space for the AF. Irl, this is actually a really common partnership, especially in German football.
Loving the Treq this year...
Really?
In my case, no role I've tried for the attacking midfielder is working as intended.
The AMA works fine with Poacher/Target Man on Attack. They don't get in each other's way. The AMA will move between the lines, dribble through the halfspaces, or go all the way to the corners to cross. Those strikers don't move between the lines and don't move with the ball, so this situation where the AMS plays a one-two throughball to them is an extreme rarity and they will occupy the same vertical channel the majority of the game. Without an AMA there is no central second box threat, unless another midfielder below is set on attack.
The Enganche is bit weird to use. He operates a bit like the target man - sits holding position in a danger zone while the inverted wingers run past him. He doesn't get as many touches from what I tested as a normal AMC on support because he gets used as a decoy most of the time. A bit like what happens with the Poacher. He sits and waits for his moments. He is not going to press much and modern top level teams press high and intense. His marking is also low effort and the opposition DM won't be sweating much. When the ball gets cleared upfield on the counter he's almost never going to beat the DM to it. He doesn't tackle, AMS does. The runs made by the players around him will free him from his marker the same way an AF drags CBs away from the Target Forward. An AF above attacking the channels and a CM on attack below make it so the only way he gets "marked out of he game" is if they have incredible close man marking. The last time someone tried to tight man mark like that they lost 7-0 to Liverpool. When an attacker makes a run through a zone occupied by a teammate it becomes an attacking overload as one defender can't track both consistently and they have no time to think should they stay put, or risk messing up the shape when a teammate also leaves their shared zone's marker to stop the runner. Modern football didn't solve central high pivots out of the game, defensive responsibility did.
A Target Man on attack is still a supporting striker in the engine. They still drop down, but from higher. They still look to create more than score. What happens with a Target Man on Attack and a Shadow Striker below is they don't start in the same area. Both will and should get in the box. The outcome of a Shadow Striker/AMA paired with a striker on support is that they do the same thing they would if the striker was set on attack, but the attacking midfield is squished tightly and the attacking midfielder can't dribble. That Target Man on attack keeps the pocket of space for the SS to exploit by threatening the backline. DLF on attack will also drop down, but from higher, and when he dribbles and attacks channels, it will be primarily in positions to create rather than score.
very much appreciate these super detailed posts!!
@@theavgdadIt's my desperate attempt at getting back at the game. Currently I'm at 2485 hours played and I still feel like I barely know the minimum about how the game works. I spent over 400 hours looking at full matches to come to these conclusions. Even now when I play normally I will watch every game in full, because I can finally enjoy the tactics in motion.
More than 800 of those hours were pure frustration and I don't want others to go through that. I watch/read every tutorial I come across just to see what I could still be missing.
Gem of a video
Great Video!
Riquelme was a Boca legend
So well explain.
Shorter will be better.
BTW. What means about tempo in the FM and when to tweak it in the game?
Tempo is how quickly and urgently your players are taking actions on the ball - too high and they may rush and make bad decisions, too slow and the opposition might be able to regroup into shape. Rule of thumb is to use a similar tempo to your passing directness, but there are exceptions - you can play short pass + high tempo if you have a top quality team, and I think slow tempo but long passing suits styles like Catenaccio
I'm trying to create a tactic which has a 442 type formation which then transforms into a 343 diamond midfield structure in possession, just can't figure out how to exactly get my second striker to act as the cam in the diamond though
A false nine could do it, or if your striker is good overral it could also be a complete forward on support. Also a Deep lying forward could do it
@@bamg7678 got any suggestions on roles for the midfield 4? In defense I have my right back as IFB and left back as WB so the WB provides width on the left
@@krishsharma3329 in midfield, of course it all depends on your players, but I would say one defensive midfielder(maybe a ball winning midfielder) and a playmaker one(this one depends more on the players you have but maybe a deep lying playmaker will give you more stability) and then on the right you can have a winger/inverted winger
Bamg has the right idea IMO if you want your second striker to do it, one of the support strikers like f9, dlfs or pfs will do it in different ways based on what you want. You've mentioned IFB r and WB l, so I assume two of the 4 midfielders make up the front 3 somehow and the other two are holding or more static - since you said diamond, I assume LtoR: IWa, CMd, CAR, Wa?
@@theavgdad so actually I'm aiming the front three to be my wing back on left and a winger on the right, so basically aiming for my left mid to become a LCM type, my right CDM to become the RCM, currently the roles of midfield are:
L to R : WP(S/A), DM(D), volante (S) , W(A)
Problem with this is the DM a lot of times doesn't really come central and it many times just remains a double pivot instead of forming a diamond shape
Thanks for your great videos! Love it!
Just one minor thing: it hurts a little every time you say "enganche". This is not a French word. Try to pronounce it like "ann-gun-che". (Better yet, google "enganche pronunciation" and hear a Spanish speaker say it).
What role would be best for someone who has good dribbling but i want to act as peppering passes between the forward.
APa fits the bill, but you could customize a basic AM with risky passes and run with ball if you don't want your team to play through him
Avg, in FM the Raumdeuter is a flank-exclusive role, so how would I get an AM to replicate that playstyle?
Good question, I think your choices are either AMs or AMa depending on which raum you want to deut, the hole or up in the box. AMa will better match the RMD's attacking nature though, simply by virtue of mentality. Then imo it's a matter of replicating the instructions, I'd add roam from position, move into channels, get further forward (if it's an AMa), short passing and cross less. There'll still be slight differences though since the AM has different options in each situation, but by and large this should come close
Can you make a tactic 4231 where the amc is an advanced playmaker on attack and gets many assists? The amc position in fm24 is not easy to get right
I caaaan, but may not do that for a while. Main rule of thumb, make sure the APa has runners in front of him to hit. Maybe an AF and a Wa or IFa, for example. Else he's got no-one to assist
@@theavgdad I'd really, REALLY like to see that. I've been struggling with it for months. Unless I use my AMC to crowd the box, he's always the attacking player with the lowest rating in my team, even though he's supposed to be one of my best players
what will happen if your advanced playmaker has a move into channels trait
theoretically, he should be able to get on the ball more easily. Mostly useful on an AP though
I like your videos, but please learn how to pronounce Enganche. It’s a Spanish word, not a French one. It’s pronounced very straightforward, the ending is like in Che Guevara.