@@nedzosf1gridbox You can't compare Andretti to the small teams of 2010. Also, this time the budget cap is actually real, something that was promised to the smaller teams in 2010 and never came in time for them to survive. The reason that Andretti is not allowed to enter is that the other team don't want to have the share of TV money getting smaller because there are more takers. And teams like Williams know that a highly professional operation like Andretti Autosport will cream them.
I'll always say that Nyck wasn't really given a chance when while he wasn't doing good, he wasn't offensively bad, and he helped develop that Alpha Tauri a lot, IMO he would've improved at the second half of the season. Replacing him for Ricciardo of all people was a stupid move
Thank you, Daniels career was good but never was a "world champion" class one but I feel the real downfall was when he joined Mcclaren cuz his Renault stint wasnt bad and if he stayed the team would be build around him and maybe Renault itself wouldnt end up as bad as they are now Edit: Tbh if it was Marko u would have Sainz in the Redbull seat and Lawson in the VCARB seat, its also funny to think about that in a way if stuff was slightly different when Daniel left Redbull, Sainz would have the call up but he was already at Renault then (ironically got booted to make room for Daniel there)
He was never unbeatable the fuq you on about mate? I respect him as a driver and he deserves every single win of his career but he was never unbeatable 😂
@@jj4485-o5o I'm talking from race to race. He's had dominate races and races that he's been the class of the field ruined by things outside his control. It's not like he's fluked his wins.
Honestly, looking at your vid titles, this and the ones about Bianchi and Lewis, it's clear you just say hot takes to try and gain clout. Yes, some points you make are valid: Daniel should not be in F1 at this point, Lewis is probably not the best, but to try and discredit Ricciardo's early career is absolutely the craziest you've done so far. You say that Max was "consistently better" than Daniel for 2.5 years, but it's clear that Max only surpassed Daniel in 2018. 2016 and 2017 were Daniel's years because of how inconsistent Max was, despite being faster. That's what truly matter, because if you can't bring a good performance home, that performance has no value in the championship. The copium on 2014 was honestly even worse, you basically just took every time that Seb was faster and said that it meant he was actually on par with Daniel that year. But considering how far behind Seb was, it doesn't take a genius to say that's impossible. Your arguments about Daniel against Seb and Max were all just 'when' and 'if', but never 'is'. Daniel outscored Vettel in 2014 and beat Max in both 16 and 17, deal with it. Even his time at Renault was somewhat impressive, as he beat both of his teammates, including absolutely destroying Ocon, who was no bad driver, and yet Ricciardo scored almost double his points, which amounted to 7 positions in the championship. The only correct thing about this video is that his rivalry with Vergne was admittedly close, and that he completely fell off after 2020.
In 2017 Ricciardo had two less retirements and only finished 32 points ahead, and in 2016 max had 3 retirements to Daniel’s 0 and spent four races in the seventh quickest and still finished only 52 points off. Verstappen was better. And I was only saying Vettel was better in 2014 than people thought. I’m not doing videos for clout, for every video with a controversial topic there’s another 2 in between that isn’t.
Look, I find Ricciardo a weird driver to rate because he has fewer wins than Webber and fewer poles than Fisichella; however the best car he probably drove was maybe the RB12. He quite comfortably beat Vettel in 14 and Hulkenburg in 19 fair play there and in 16 and 17 he was good too. He's won in Monaco as well, which I rate quite highly too. I think he's a little below Bottas but a little above Perez in that kind of mid to bottom A tier but anyway...
@@nedzosf1gridbox Considering that Red Bull were only the 3rd best team in 2017 overall, I'd argue 32 points is a fairly sensible margin. When it comes to 2016, this is the inconsistency I was talking about, plus, looking at Daniel's performance that year it felt more like a recovery from 2015 more than part of his prime.
@@matthiascerebri3315 ok so if being experienced means you’re instantly a better driver or should be put on a pedestal then Andrea de Cesaris and Ricciardo Patrese were the best drivers on the grid for a good few years and so was Graham hill in 1975. Pace and performance may be based on experience but it can’t replace a lack of performance if it’s a close fight
I remember when JV came on the scene with a bang. He won his Jr. series, The Indy 500 from two laps down. Pole in his first F1 race and a WDC in his second year. I remember the F1 rule change to grooved tyres and JV was criticizing them before they were implemented. I find the same with Danny Ric. The Ground Effect era does not suit his driving style. He has done nothing but struggle since the implementation of the new rules. He's tried to change his driving style 5 times in 3 years.
Both Villeneuve and Ricciardo have experienced similar downturns in their careers, so it's puzzling why Villeneuve is criticizing Ricciardo. Reflecting on Villeneuve's performance in the years following his championship win, one might question his presence in the sport during that period. He is correct on Ric and himself.
JV was still great 98-02 but drove shit cars. And he has a f1 title, an indycar championship and an Indy 500 title along with a second at Le mans. Who did you compare him with again?
Daniel beating Seb in 2014 was a bit like Russel beating Lewis in 2022. Also obviously we can't tell motivation levels but you'd ve hard pressed to disagree with Villeneuve's assessment of Seb trying to force a move particularly looking back at 2015 where Seb in my opinion was as good as Lewis.
2014 flattered Ricciardo a lot. For starters, Vettel was demotivated as he hated the hybrid engines. Secondly Vettel had to 'unlearn' the counter-intuitive driving style he had had to adopt to make the most of the 2010-2013 blown diffusor cars. He also spent the first quarter of the season in a cracked chassis that wasn't discovered until Canada or so. Danny Ric was good that year, but he was made to look much better than he was by Vettels several problems.
Daniel can drive but his head doesn't seem in the game anymore, it's all Netflix and sponsorship deals. You look at how hard the others are working like Lando, Russel, Sainz even Alonso they are all hungry for wins and working at it every opportunity. Villeneuve was right, he can't keep his spot on current form.
My hot takes. Shouldnt have pay drivers proping up teams while also rejecting viable new teams. Its a cheap look. F1 needs a pipeline for young talent. Drivers like Bottas, Ricciardo, Magnussen, Hulkenburg, Alonso should all be forced to retire. Call it a driver health and safety thing. New talent should be promoted by the sport. Having new names on the grid is severely under rated. In racing there is always the chance you could see the next great one. Maybe they could hire retired drivers as coach/mentor role for the young guns.
I agree that he hasn’t really made a great case for himself recently and tbh it’s really just his personality that’s kept him around especially since McLaren dropped him (a year early) But a chunk of what Jacques said is complete lies. In 2014 Seb wasn’t burnt out won the last 4 titles then after that had plenty of great seasons and race wins still. Beat Max regularly for a good 2 seasons as opposed to just half of 1 (by far the teammate who pushed Max hardest, no easy feat) and said he never beat anyone after that… Then how come he quite easily beat Hulk 1st year in Renault when it was Hulk’s 3rd also? And did Ocon also never return to F1 in 2020 when Daniel didn’t just beat but smashed him? And claimed it’s been 4 or 5 years of people saying change the car for him, when it’s actually been about 2 maybe 3. Was a really good driver for a long time and still shows glimpses of that time to time but defo isn’t the Danny Ric we knew and loved anymore which is sad but it happens. Drivers come and go.
Seb was trying experimental stuff and if you genuinely think pre 2014 Seb was the same as post 2013 Seb you’re very much mistaken. He didn’t beat max for two seasons, as my statistics proved. Admittedly he did beat hulkenberg and ocon (Nico only just) and Esteban who was coming off a one year break but ever since then he’s been unable to adapt and get consistent results
Agreed, look I laughed at a lot of what Villeneuve said tbf but I am probably with you tbh. 14 wasn't great as a Vettel supporter but Ricciardo was better no complaints. His stats for the Max seasons are fair but he did beat Verstappen twice and the thing he's being slandered for now he actually had over Max then, consistency lol funny how these things work. Not the same after 21 but every driver has their highs and lows, some stay and don't win titles after 18 years. 😂😂
Hmmmmmmmmm... tbh I think this video is quite crazy again tbh. Do probably agree that since 2021 minus some decent performances he should really not be there but from 2014-20 he was right up there. He also lost to Kvyat though so you take the good with the bad lol!
Tsunoda deserves the seat less than him and that's enough reason to have Danny in F1. Also, he's just scored 2 more points while the other car was below the 15th spot with one less car finishing...
How does tsunoda deserve the seat less if he has double Daniel’s points. His form has been good the past few races but he needs to maintain consistency which he lacks
Limited seats, aging drivers and refusal to accept new teams, F1 is in danger of losing a whole generation of driving talents.
They are. We need at least 11 teams if not 12 they’re just scared to have a 2010 2.0
@@nedzosf1gridbox You can't compare Andretti to the small teams of 2010. Also, this time the budget cap is actually real, something that was promised to the smaller teams in 2010 and never came in time for them to survive. The reason that Andretti is not allowed to enter is that the other team don't want to have the share of TV money getting smaller because there are more takers. And teams like Williams know that a highly professional operation like Andretti Autosport will cream them.
Yea that’s a fair point
Thanks for saying the truth , i like Ricciardo ,but how his fanboys attacked Villneuve was disgusting !
I'll always say that Nyck wasn't really given a chance when while he wasn't doing good, he wasn't offensively bad, and he helped develop that Alpha Tauri a lot, IMO he would've improved at the second half of the season. Replacing him for Ricciardo of all people was a stupid move
Never understood the hype around him;
Nice guy, sure, but the world is full of those.
And it's not why we watch F1.
I like Daniel, but this is all correct. As a person he's adorable, as a driver he's just not good enough.
Thanks for understanding
Thank you, Daniels career was good but never was a "world champion" class one but I feel the real downfall was when he joined Mcclaren cuz his Renault stint wasnt bad and if he stayed the team would be build around him and maybe Renault itself wouldnt end up as bad as they are now
Edit: Tbh if it was Marko u would have Sainz in the Redbull seat and Lawson in the VCARB seat, its also funny to think about that in a way if stuff was slightly different when Daniel left Redbull, Sainz would have the call up but he was already at Renault then (ironically got booted to make room for Daniel there)
Ricciardo hasn't done anything in the last two seasons to say without a doubt that he should be on the grid next season
3, cause he cost McLaren P4 in the WCC
@@Jorge.Painkiller i still maintain that mclaren had a better car in 2022 than renault did. i agree that daniel lost them that p4
Good research, quality content.
Must have taken a lot of time.
If I’m being honest it took about 48 hours to go from nothing to finished
He had a nice career... until 2018. Should have just let it be and go off to australian supercars.
Haha good idea
On a good day, Ricardo is unbeatable but those days are becoming less and less common.
He was never unbeatable the fuq you on about mate? I respect him as a driver and he deserves every single win of his career but he was never unbeatable 😂
@@jj4485-o5o I'm talking from race to race. He's had dominate races and races that he's been the class of the field ruined by things outside his control. It's not like he's fluked his wins.
Honestly, looking at your vid titles, this and the ones about Bianchi and Lewis, it's clear you just say hot takes to try and gain clout. Yes, some points you make are valid: Daniel should not be in F1 at this point, Lewis is probably not the best, but to try and discredit Ricciardo's early career is absolutely the craziest you've done so far. You say that Max was "consistently better" than Daniel for 2.5 years, but it's clear that Max only surpassed Daniel in 2018. 2016 and 2017 were Daniel's years because of how inconsistent Max was, despite being faster. That's what truly matter, because if you can't bring a good performance home, that performance has no value in the championship. The copium on 2014 was honestly even worse, you basically just took every time that Seb was faster and said that it meant he was actually on par with Daniel that year. But considering how far behind Seb was, it doesn't take a genius to say that's impossible. Your arguments about Daniel against Seb and Max were all just 'when' and 'if', but never 'is'. Daniel outscored Vettel in 2014 and beat Max in both 16 and 17, deal with it. Even his time at Renault was somewhat impressive, as he beat both of his teammates, including absolutely destroying Ocon, who was no bad driver, and yet Ricciardo scored almost double his points, which amounted to 7 positions in the championship. The only correct thing about this video is that his rivalry with Vergne was admittedly close, and that he completely fell off after 2020.
In 2017 Ricciardo had two less retirements and only finished 32 points ahead, and in 2016 max had 3 retirements to Daniel’s 0 and spent four races in the seventh quickest and still finished only 52 points off. Verstappen was better. And I was only saying Vettel was better in 2014 than people thought. I’m not doing videos for clout, for every video with a controversial topic there’s another 2 in between that isn’t.
Look, I find Ricciardo a weird driver to rate because he has fewer wins than Webber and fewer poles than Fisichella; however the best car he probably drove was maybe the RB12. He quite comfortably beat Vettel in 14 and Hulkenburg in 19 fair play there and in 16 and 17 he was good too. He's won in Monaco as well, which I rate quite highly too. I think he's a little below Bottas but a little above Perez in that kind of mid to bottom A tier but anyway...
@@nedzosf1gridbox Considering that Red Bull were only the 3rd best team in 2017 overall, I'd argue 32 points is a fairly sensible margin. When it comes to 2016, this is the inconsistency I was talking about, plus, looking at Daniel's performance that year it felt more like a recovery from 2015 more than part of his prime.
@@nedzosf1gridboxverstappen was in no way better as Daniel was way more experienced 😂
@@matthiascerebri3315 ok so if being experienced means you’re instantly a better driver or should be put on a pedestal then Andrea de Cesaris and Ricciardo Patrese were the best drivers on the grid for a good few years and so was Graham hill in 1975. Pace and performance may be based on experience but it can’t replace a lack of performance if it’s a close fight
I remember when JV came on the scene with a bang. He won his Jr. series, The Indy 500 from two laps down. Pole in his first F1 race and a WDC in his second year.
I remember the F1 rule change to grooved tyres and JV was criticizing them before they were implemented.
I find the same with Danny Ric. The Ground Effect era does not suit his driving style. He has done nothing but struggle since the implementation of the new rules. He's tried to change his driving style 5 times in 3 years.
Both Villeneuve and Ricciardo have experienced similar downturns in their careers, so it's puzzling why Villeneuve is criticizing Ricciardo. Reflecting on Villeneuve's performance in the years following his championship win, one might question his presence in the sport during that period. He is correct on Ric and himself.
People should be allowed to use their own experiences to criticise others
JV was still great 98-02 but drove shit cars. And he has a f1 title, an indycar championship and an Indy 500 title along with a second at Le mans. Who did you compare him with again?
Daniel beating Seb in 2014 was a bit like Russel beating Lewis in 2022. Also obviously we can't tell motivation levels but you'd ve hard pressed to disagree with Villeneuve's assessment of Seb trying to force a move particularly looking back at 2015 where Seb in my opinion was as good as Lewis.
2014 flattered Ricciardo a lot. For starters, Vettel was demotivated as he hated the hybrid engines. Secondly Vettel had to 'unlearn' the counter-intuitive driving style he had had to adopt to make the most of the 2010-2013 blown diffusor cars. He also spent the first quarter of the season in a cracked chassis that wasn't discovered until Canada or so. Danny Ric was good that year, but he was made to look much better than he was by Vettels several problems.
Daniel can drive but his head doesn't seem in the game anymore, it's all Netflix and sponsorship deals. You look at how hard the others are working like Lando, Russel, Sainz even Alonso they are all hungry for wins and working at it every opportunity. Villeneuve was right, he can't keep his spot on current form.
My hot takes. Shouldnt have pay drivers proping up teams while also rejecting viable new teams. Its a cheap look.
F1 needs a pipeline for young talent. Drivers like Bottas, Ricciardo, Magnussen, Hulkenburg, Alonso should all be forced to retire. Call it a driver health and safety thing. New talent should be promoted by the sport. Having new names on the grid is severely under rated. In racing there is always the chance you could see the next great one.
Maybe they could hire retired drivers as coach/mentor role for the young guns.
DANIEL GO TO NASCAR, I WANNA SEE YOU W/ LARSON, ELLIOT, BELL AND BUESCHER !!!! (Also SVG)
Good idea
Ricciardo is a mediocre driver at best. Time to get rid of him and complete the story.
He wasnt always though, He once had big potential
I agree that he hasn’t really made a great case for himself recently and tbh it’s really just his personality that’s kept him around especially since McLaren dropped him (a year early)
But a chunk of what Jacques said is complete lies.
In 2014 Seb wasn’t burnt out won the last 4 titles then after that had plenty of great seasons and race wins still.
Beat Max regularly for a good 2 seasons as opposed to just half of 1 (by far the teammate who pushed Max hardest, no easy feat) and said he never beat anyone after that…
Then how come he quite easily beat Hulk 1st year in Renault when it was Hulk’s 3rd also? And did Ocon also never return to F1 in 2020 when Daniel didn’t just beat but smashed him?
And claimed it’s been 4 or 5 years of people saying change the car for him, when it’s actually been about 2 maybe 3.
Was a really good driver for a long time and still shows glimpses of that time to time but defo isn’t the Danny Ric we knew and loved anymore which is sad but it happens. Drivers come and go.
Seb was trying experimental stuff and if you genuinely think pre 2014 Seb was the same as post 2013 Seb you’re very much mistaken. He didn’t beat max for two seasons, as my statistics proved. Admittedly he did beat hulkenberg and ocon (Nico only just) and Esteban who was coming off a one year break but ever since then he’s been unable to adapt and get consistent results
Agreed, look I laughed at a lot of what Villeneuve said tbf but I am probably with you tbh. 14 wasn't great as a Vettel supporter but Ricciardo was better no complaints. His stats for the Max seasons are fair but he did beat Verstappen twice and the thing he's being slandered for now he actually had over Max then, consistency lol funny how these things work. Not the same after 21 but every driver has their highs and lows, some stay and don't win titles after 18 years. 😂😂
He deserves an F1 seat more than Lance stroll
Low bar to clear
Hmmmmmmmmm... tbh I think this video is quite crazy again tbh. Do probably agree that since 2021 minus some decent performances he should really not be there but from 2014-20 he was right up there. He also lost to Kvyat though so you take the good with the bad lol!
Yes
wannabe truth-sayer type beat
If that’s your opinion that’s ok
@@nedzosf1gridbox i almost feel bad to say i wasn't being that serious.
Oh ok no worries, I’m autistic so I struggle to differentiate jokes from serious
@@nedzosf1gridbox yeah, same here..
Tsunoda deserves the seat less than him and that's enough reason to have Danny in F1. Also, he's just scored 2 more points while the other car was below the 15th spot with one less car finishing...
How does tsunoda deserve the seat less if he has double Daniel’s points. His form has been good the past few races but he needs to maintain consistency which he lacks