Lakitu Cloud Adoption
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ต.ค. 2021
- I demonstrate lakitu cloud adoption. Warning: This video contains rapid pausing, leading to flashing lights.
Lakitu cloud adoption is a glitch performed as follows:
(1) Unload a lakitu on the same frame that you deactivate him from moving 4000 units away from him.
(2) On the next frame, load an object into the lakitu's object slot.
The result of this is that the lakitu's cloud doesn't unload but instead considers that new object to be its parent. In the video, I do this using a 100 coin star. Unfortunately, this doesn't really lead to anything useful.
Lakitu cloud adoption was first discovered by bad_boot ( / @bad_boot ) years ago, but never done in practice. But Scarlas ( / @scarlas7071 ) recently brought it up again, which got me interested in it. Thus, I investigated a way to pull it off, and then did it.
Note that lakitu cloud adoption is yet another adoption-type glitch, like pupil adoption ( • LLL Pupil Adoption on ... ) and spiny adoption ( • I Jumped Around in Wat... ).
Note that I wrote a brute forcer to calculate the optimal PU movement. Here's my code: pastebin.com/hTXZ27Ny
Aside: I think it's interesting that pulling off lakitu cloud adoption involved exploiting several other glitches in the process, like cloning, hands-free holding, pause-buffered hitstun, interference clones, fly guy gradual rise, backwards long jumps, and PU movement with overflow jumps. It reminds me of how in mathematics, proving a new thing often involves using existing proofs from other people. So in the case of sm64, we're pulling off new glitches using the knowledge of all other glitches that has accumulated over the years from many different people. - เกม
"Bro I swear man, get a bomb from BitFS and throw it above the stage then go to rainbow ride and collect 99 coins and you'll remove Lakitu from his cloud!"
This honestly sounds like some rumor on the playground when TH-cam really wasn't a thing.
It really does
"it didn't work? Well your PUs must not have been aligned or something bro"
I literally thought the same thing.
I guess this is also how you catch mew
ironically, since ACE is in Pokemon, there actually is a set of actions that will lead to Mew being behind the truck
"But unfortunately, it doesn't really have any practical purpose."
This is unintentional comedy gold
unintentional, huh?
yeah no shit theres no practical purpose for this lol
Next Week: Saves 4 A Presses with it
especially immediately followed by mario's death
And yet, if, a week from now, he posts about using this to cut the level's ABC time down to two minutes, I wouldn't be surprised.
Pannenkoek's adoption services: uniting clouds with loving 100 coin stars
Holsome!!!🥺
by murdering their previous owner ethically and frame-perfectly
Do you mean this Pannenkoek? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonie_Pannekoek
@@caiodecastro7956 ???
@@caiodecastro7956 maximum real
It is so weird seeing him just casually jumping around.
This is one of the most absurd combinations of game glitches I've ever seen. What a fun time!
You should Stryder7x's badge duplication video, it's even crazier
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This one is crazier
my personal favorite is watch for rolling rocks 0.5x A presses, which involves scuttlebug transportation and grinding against a wall for several hours to fly several parallel universes over and bounce off a scuttlebug floating in the air and collect the star without a full A press.
@@BradenBest not absurd, it saved an A press from 1 to 0.5
@@pf7 I didn't use the word "absurd", so I don't know why you said "not absurd".
"Unfortunately this doesn't seem that useful" - Pancake man the day before making something useful
Okay maybe not this time but I still believe!
like that video where he accidentally discovered parallel universes and said it was a glitch that just broke the camera and softlocked the game
@@immibis Which video is that?
@@xareos6754 The Blue Coin Cloning video
Pan could make a April fools video with him just doing random shit In mario 64 for 20 minutes and I would still believe the entire time it would lead up to a glitch where bowser turns into the clock pendulum
these comments are fucking killing me
“I make my way to RR, where the real fun will start!! Now I collect 99 coins!!”
You and I have completely different standards of fun
Love how the double exclamation points on both phrases give a totally different vibe from the video's version of the punctutation.
"It reminds me of how in mathematics, proving a new thing often involves using existing proofs from other people."
I was just thinking the same thing! :)
Yup, it's stacking tools on each other. The game interface hands the player a limited set of tools designed to work together in a harmonious way, with heavy restrictions on how the player gets to manipulate the game's data, analogous to how real people have heavy restrictions on how they can manipulate the world around them in a given moment. Then people figure out loophole after loophole, new ways to manipulate the game's data in unintended ways. And since games typically have pretty limited sets of data - object positions, states, movement vectors, etc. - when you throw wide the door to manipulating some of this data, it often has broad applications.
Then if you have multiple tools, each of which can be used in a bunch of situations, the possibilities for direct manipulation of data compound, until you can do pretty much whatever you can dream up. Up to and including hijacking the code itself and writing your own code.
That's true for academics in general.
*Everything* is on the shoulders of giants.
Pannen tbh I don’t understand what’s happening 99% of the time when I watch your videos, but I do watch and enjoy every single one. Thanks as always for posting your fascinating findings!
It's honestly fascinating how many of us there are. We don't quite understand everything and yet we can't help but marvel at his work and explanations.
Based
nice, I thought I was the only one and felt like a retard for not understanding shit. Well, maybe I'm retarded but at least I'm not alone
@@Smogshaik Basically like watching a documentary about the universe.
"It reminds me of how in mathematics, proving a new thing often involves using existing proofs from other people. So in the case of sm64, we're pulling off new glitches using the knowledge of all other glitches that has accumulated over the years from many different people." this is incredibly deep. what a fascinating discovery
Totally agree it's amazing what people can do in this over 20 year old game. It truly amazing! I wonder what other amazing glitches people will find either for fun or to take off half a second on a speed run.
imagine if this video was your first introduction to the idea of pointers
It's a very practical introduction. This video has lots of examples of points being used (and thus pointing to another object) after free.
when he said "And by releasing the coin clone while I'm falling at terminal velocity, I can avoid collecting it instantly." I felt that
One of my favorite parts of mathematics is how you can have a very simple problem that has an insanely complicated solution. The ABC challenge is also like that, where it's easy to figure out the goal (don't press A) and the problem areas (places where you need to press A), but the solution to these problems are absurd.
My man said "the star doesn't look shiny enough, let me fix that"
I'm just glad that the cloud finally has a chance to be part of a loving family.
"We have spent years stealing Lakitu's cloud and we have no real use for it"
I swear this game has more bugs than it does features. I love it.
That's what the features are!
When you have to move through "parallel universes" to acheive your goal, I think it's less that the game is broken and more that we've learned how to break the game.
I was surprised to see the Lakitu going down, even though this game has been broken beyond belief, there are many features that probably many players wouldn't notice, that are part of the designed intended logic of the game, such as what the Lakitu was doing, that still had an important part in this video to be featured.
Don't be an asshole. Most of the bugs cannot be exploited by normal input.
It's because these early 3D (early 2D ones too for that matter) games didn't have real reusable engines, and they (more or less) needed to make unique engine for each game, and doing this makes them have unique quirks, especially when everything needs to be optimized just to be able to run with playable framerate. This doesn't mean that modern games can't have many bugs as well though, but it's definitely easier to not to make them, since you already have good stable engines that games run on top on.
I absolutely love how it keeps getting better and more interesting with each step. As soon as you mentioned PUs I was laughing from excitement.
Hilarious result, maybe in 100 years or so it will save an A press
So proud of him. It's a big life step but that cloud has a loving home now
When this started with “I enter BitFS” I actually had a heart attack
Not everything needs to be useful to be awesome. Sometimes we just do things for science and this example is beautiful. Such a convoluted setup, I loved it!
this feels like badge duplication from paper mario 64 LOL, finally proving an extremely in-depth, super cool and long glitch is possible that has no purpose other than "it looks neat"
I can't help but shake the feeling that all of these adoption glitches could serve a huge purpose at some point. I'm just not sure the purpose they can serve.
Spiny adoption actually does things, maybe.
i'm telling you bro you can remove lakitu's cloud in mario 64. come by after school behind the green ball wall and i'll show you
Pannen: "Unfortunately, it does not really have any practical purposes".
More than a thousand viewers within 15 mintes: What is a purpose?
Also: 3 days later: "In my last video, I said that Lakitu Cloud Adoption does not have any practical purposes. In response, SM64TasGod420 created a TAS showing that, theoretically, Lakitu Cloud Adoption can be used to save one A press in Tick Tock Clock."
Ah, I love absurd combinations of glitches that lead to interesting and *completely* useless stuff.
"...it doesn't really have any practical purpose."
I love you, Pannen.
I’ve always dreamed of riding that vessel like in Super Mario World… Unfortunately, my head’s still in the clouds in that case.
was that a pun
0:38
_"Next I make my way to Rainbow Ride, where the real fun will start!"_
Said no casual player ever.
Also 3:24 is very nice to watch.
3:33 It's that kind of text that is so 100% Pannen. :D This is science for science's sake and I appreciate it.
Jump forward like 8 years and it'll be used in some 140-hour meticulous setup required to save half an A press somewhere
Mario: "please don't close the prompt please don't close the prompt"
Wow, what an incredibly complicated setup to do something so mundane yet cool. I support this.
Pannen's gonna flip when he sees that there's already tons of clouds without a lakitu in the background
Star: You are being adopted.
Cloud:
Star: Please do not resist.
I was really hoping the star would fly around in the cloud! Oh well…
Also, saying it has no practical purpose usually means magic is about to happen…
The things he can do by pressing A
Text commentated video from Pannen! Really interesting and well made video.
This upload fits the date perfectly, because you are the dream and nightmare of every programmer with that upbeat Mario 64 footage while listing instructions on how to summon demons from the deepest parts of this game.
That part in the description really reminds me of the 3Blue1Brown videos because in one I'm pretty sure he mentions the same exact thing in math.
Really appreciate the amount of crazy glitches this game has, because who knows what other things you can do now!
EDIT: Interference cloning? Man that's a throwback to the old days before PU's were a thing xD
The glitch is pretty amusing, but the real most impressive thing is how this man is just doing perfect ninja moves on the most nerve-wracking mario stage in all of Mario 64.
Mildly unrelated to the subject but I just love how you keep the same style of editing with the yellow captions. It works so well with SM64 for some reason
Ever since the game came out, I wondered if this was somehow possible.
Me: thinking I'm clever figuring out how to abuse the mutability of linked lists to create a constant-memory merge sort
Pannenkoek, who can see the matrix and traverse memory as if it were three-dimensional space:
Pannen was just abusing the update of the linked list that links the cloud with Lakitu
You gave the cloud a good home. I feel that's a good enough purpose already.
Can I just say, an “interference clone” sounds like the most badass and threatening thing out of context.
“But unfortunately, it doesn’t really have any practical purpose.”
*Mario immediately dies*
I definitely agree about the lack of purpose, but even more than some of your others this shows true mastery of the game! Additionally, it's cool to see the Lakitu's cloud used this way, almost like Mario Maker.
I wasn't sure what "Lakitu Could Adoption" meant. I thought it meant they were going to adopt the cloud into a run to make it possible to do something so I watched this whole video expecting something groundbreaking just for it to be "Now the star has a lakitu cloud :)". It was groundbreaking, but not in the way I expected.
You not only get the star with the cloud you also get the "Collect Star on the death plane" as well.
The fact the game runs in the face of so many exploity edge cases being used at once says something
"It doesn't have any practical purpose." You could argue that the entire game doesn't have any practical purpose
Love that your personality comes through just with text :)
We love you mr pancake
On today’s episode of “pancake man does a thing”:
Jump around, throw bombs, remove lakitu from his cloud.
As I was watching I was thinking "This is probably Pannen's most involved trick, it has a bit of everything, the only thing missing is ironically the Parallel Universes" and then he started PU moving and I lost it.
Now do it without any A presses.
(This has to be one of the craziest things on this channel, my god)
Lakitu throws away his/her kids to attack Mario and the cloud decided to ditched Lakitu and found a new shiny son.
Poetic Justice
I'm so used to not completely understanding what's going on in these videos that I was waiting for some big reveal to happen. This time, I understood everything up until the very end. I guess I'm learning.
Entity hierarchy is something I've been using in my own game's development. It's very useful in my case, as I can make the child entity's position data be relative to the parent entity, which means that if the child has no movement of its own, its overall movement will match the parent exactly. This allows creating large complex meta-entities with multiple moving parts. The hazard is that the entity hierarchy link is stored as a reference, and if that reference gets interfered with, very strange things can happen!
If you manage to bring the cloud over to the final Bowser fight, you can save a decent amount of time by using it to hover over Bowser and skip some of his animations.
Or so I've heard.
"First, I enter BitFS"
Damnit, don't give me hope.
I find it a bit weird that lakitu and the cloud are different objects. I guess this has something to do with the cloud transparency rendering.
Are there other object references that can be exploited with a similar setup?
From his comment, I'm pretty sure pannen is a math major when he's not busy being a sm64 glitch researcher
This is the first this I've seen pannenkoek do a BLJ through the 50 star door
i think he has tho but im probably misremembering things
@@JulianR2JG idk i've seen alot of pannenkoek videos, if you come across a link send it
hes done some in the past! usually working with PUs iirc
@@blorgle oh yeah! i guess i must've been thinking about the 50 star door blj
Man, it seems like no matter what there's always something new to find in Super Mario 64. It's just that everybody's found all the surface level stuff; It's up to Mario Engineers like Pannenkoek to dig a little deeper.
Pannen would spend ten thousand hours training and then making a video of himself summiting mount Everest, only to say at the peak:
"Unfortunately, reaching the top of mount Everest doesn't really have any practical purpose."
>but it doesn't really have any practical application
okay but it looks cool so still worth
I'd love to adopt a cloud. It's way less creepy than adopting a giant floating pupil
This guy is probably the smartest person who exists right now.
I'm suprised he hasn't been hauled off to some Lab and forced to improve the cutting edge of Science.
That's a lot of effort to go through to make a star damp.
You continue to spoil us.
Gotta love how I'm blown right into business with Bitfs. No idea what I've gotten into but this looks like a fun ride
I usually don't understand much of the explanations, but I still enjoy videos like this
I love sending these videos to people without any explanation
I haven't ever regretted following your channels Pannenkoek, and I'm not about to start regretting it now. Your love for SM64 is actually really moving. PU-moving even.
I think it's safe to say that Pannenkoek knows more about SM64 than the developers at this point
Stopped folding clothes to watch this.
Stuff like these may be completely useless to any goal but it's still interesting to see how much you can squeeze out of the engine even if it is entirely for fun (i.e. without any real goal).
This game is really the gift that never stops giving isn't it
Considering it's Halloween It should have been called Lakitu cloud apparition.
Quantum physicists: hey pannen we're hiring
Pannen: that's cool but I can remove lakitu from his cloud
The amount of knowledge and skill showcased into these videos is astonishing. Can Pannen cure cancer or create a time travel machine already? :>
He has a method for time travel but it requires setting the HOLT in the future, so can't yet be done in practice.
Knowing (some parts of) the history of this game, I'm sure some brilliant complicated strat will be found at some point in the future that somehow relies on this, or at least builds on it. Useless discoveries have a tendency to not stay useless forever with this game.
This was very interesting to see, especially with the very complex and masterful techniques required! Thank you very much for demonstrating this.
"And then you eat 27 tuna sandwiches, than Luigi appears. Eat him to get any new game you want released right now."
Sometimes I wonder what would happen if you found someone who had never heard of Mario 64 and had them explain the game based solely on Pannens videos
I love how he casually BLJs to RR because he only has 1 star
watch the principles behind this trick end up being used for some huge strat in the future that completely changes one of the categories
A wise man once said “Don’t ask why it works, Nintendo 64 devs were on acid, things happen.”
This... seems like a lot of work.
for the express purpose of having a cloud and a star in eachother
"So, Mr. Pancake Man..... what exactly is the use for an interference clone?"
*".... You can steal Lakitu's cloud."*
"Good enough for me!"
When the teacher baits you into multivariable calculus with video games
Thanos: i use the stones to destroy the stones
Pannen:i use the bob-omb to clone the respawning bob-omb
finally, the infamous sequel to "pupil adoption"
Next video:
"So now we erase existence as we know it to make a perfect-framed jump to make Peach's cake appear."
But unfortunately, it doesn't really have any practical purpose.
Lakitu now running around out there with no pants.
I have next to no idea what I'm watching, nonetheless all the acronyms I so badly wish I knew, but I congratulate you despite that!! This looked incredibly time intensive and irritating to try to perform!!
Edit:// I'm really disappointed you didn't get anything special from being able to do that :(
still insane to see the amount of potential unlocks you have man, i have to get myself brushed up on all the termanolagy really, sick stuff
This is so cool to see in practice! It's even more intricate than I imagined it to be. I never thought of using interference clones.
"Next I make my way to Rainbow Ride, where the _real_ fun will start!"
said no-one ever