I think you said it perfectly. That “eyeliner” is what I think is missing from a lot of new Halo helmets and why the only one I love is Halo 4/5’s scout which has that eyeliner
@@Wernissage even the Hivemind not looks so off now, will roll a RNG for a "helmet of a day" I'm using for a next 24hrs when playing some Halo if I had all those)
@@CaliberKing117 "ObSoLuTeLy IcOnIc, GaMeRz. Ima bout to make a full hour video just about that, without any need to or even worthwile things to say" Expect something like that 🤷♂️
To answer you question @Wernissage my favorite is HiveMind, the original... needed some work and your redesigning is the answer. It kind of reminds me of what I do for a living.
There amazing I appreciate his work but you can't appease the Halo fanbase even if the helmets looked like this for the update hoards of people would still have been
343 should really hire you. you do an excellent job on combining Bungie and 343 art style so well and you make your own banish weapons that look and Sound amazing.
well 343 said they won't make any new armor to the halo mcc games but the halo online armor is already made so instead of "making" them they could edit them although a complete redesign would probably be considered to much to do with there small team
but they could have it like the under suits like for hive mind wernissage's is gen 1 and the new ones are the movement to gen 2 like how they added odst armor form fire team raven how now there's 5 odst helmets in halo 3
@@alexanderthegreat6682 oh no there's definitely going to be dlc it's basically confirmed camping and multiplayer they did say if people wanted the classic shot gun and magnum it would be added later down the line remember this is a game meant to last 10 years there not gonna give us multiplayer and campaign and not add anything
I think they should actually rework all of the new armor to look like some of these I love it soo much or what if they added some kind of Bethesda like creation club where people could come up with their own version of armor and we could use season points on it that would be cool
Dude you just solve one of the biggest problems in modern halo, your readings are innovative but still quite halo looking, it mixes perfectly the vibe of old and new halo
Does anyone feel like 343 has a different perception on armor than the community. they seem to go for uniqueness and kinda off the wall designs, when it seems the community wants those qualities but would rather a more realistic Military look (as realistic as a 2552 space warrior armor can look)
343s designs just come off as generic videogame sci-fi, always overdesigned and needlessly intricate. Honestly some of their work looks like the kind of stuff I'd find on a free 3D asset site. Taking over a franchise from another studio is always hard, but it shouldn't be _this_ hard, especially if fans and hobbyists are giving better input for free on their own time.
343 also just has a real bad tendency to *way* overdesign everything. The classic Halo armor sort of resembled tank armor scaled down to human size; generally pretty smooth and angular. 343 adds so much texture and so many angles to all their stuff it just has way too much visual noise
I like to see Bungie art style as a Action-figure style, blocky, simple, and with heavy toy potential, 343 art style feels like something that I could see in sci-fi modern movies, or in some weird statues, not in practical action-figures, that’s my best way to tell the differences between both styles
They use more modern sci-fi looks instead of the 80s/90s retro futuristic look of Bungie’s games. I wish they would understand why the Halo 3 community generally didn’t like these designs and change them. I hope modders fix these armors entire when we get mod support
@@aceskeletonne7446 that is true, and I hope to see what could be done. However, I’d imagine that great collaboration is a necessity to make this a reality.
@@Wernissage Can you please make more redesigns? Like a full series of redesigns turning 4, Online, and 5's Spartans (Helmets, Torsos, Arms, Legs, etc) towards the Classic Art Style?
I still feel 2 eyeholes would be a better look than 3, because your mind would more easily recognize it as something staring at you. It would make you on edge whenever you saw these usually faceless masks seem to stare directly at you
@@mee4644 I think it's cool. I still prefer the redesign. The three eyes of both versions is very "splinter cell", and clearly based on the three eyed chick from Destiny 1 and 2 who is partially connected to and can interact with the hive mind of the Hive. Hence the name.
I never realized how important the eyeliner, black highlights, and depth were to make the old style so distinct. I only figured the simple angles and lack of random details mattered. These redesigns look great, I would definitely use a few of them.
There amazing I appreciate his work but you can't appease the Halo fanbase even if the helmets looked like this for the update hoards of people would still have been complaining. The Halo fanbase is splintered, decisive, and most importantly "bipolar".
@@Fellovidual yes there will be, but 343 can minimize it by making good changes. Nobody complained about the different visor colours in CE and 3, for example
Good stuff, your designs seem to keep the distinct flare that reminds you that it is a 343 era helmet, but actually accomplished the task of fitting into Halo 3 (rather than looking like it accidentally wandered over from halo 4) Edit: fixed autocorrect
"I'm not saying I did a better job than 343" I'm not sure 343 did the Online armors but either way these would have been a much more welcome addition than whatever those monstrosities we actually got were, so I'll go ahead and say it for ya. Yes, you did a much better job than 343, good work.
There amazing I appreciate his work but you can't appease the Halo fanbase even if the helmets looked like this for the update hoards of people would still have been
@@shangothunder1055 not if this was implemented right. Those Halo Online armors should have been implemented in H4 because the art Style is literally the same. Halo 3 should have been a way to implement armors like og Mark V, concept armors from H3, armors like Halo Legends, Mark IV with it's techsuit... Even Reach armors but not Halo 4 armors imo. But hey it's free content to a 12 years old Game and I am enjoying every bit of It. There's a lot of people making armors with custom parts of old and new and they look cool AF
Yeah, and lore wise I suppose, these redesigns can very easily be potentially described as early models of these helmets, with the later models being in Halo 4 and 5.
Nope that's subjective you can't prove a taste/flavor is better. You can't appease the Halo fanbase even if the helmets looked like this for the update hoards of people would still have been complaining.
The black “eye liner” just makes them all look so much better and really makes the helmets stand out in comparison to their halo online counterparts. Good work :)
Werni since you have proved yourself time & time again at blending art designs from halo's original trilogy & the reclaimer saga, 343 should definitely hire you without a doubt.
i think the deadeye redesign is my favourite. the cross shaped visor gives it such a unique look while looking more simplified into fitting with 3's style
I swear the combinations between the helmet designs you chose and made, blew me away, and yes the eyeliner being added in makes it feel halo even more. It felt like you had the halo armour secret formula.
Your redesigns are fantastic! The redesign of the Warrior really speaks to me. 343 really should hire you. You blend the old and new styles perfectly to me.
this is essentially that spongebob episode about drawing a perfect circle, where he draws a highly detailed face and then earases all the detail until its a circle.
These look so rad. Top-notch, lovely work on these redesigns! I think my favorites were the Soldier and Warrior helmets, I'd definitely wear your renditions of them.
All of these are infinitely better if only they just knew what a spartan should look like. I mean thank God they look like they are doing well for the infinite armor. Your version of that warrior helmet was probably my favorite nice work
These are incredibly fun, and they're well-designed. Seeing your designs makes me realize what makes the H3 style so unique, too. Thank you for making this.
You should definitely do more!!! Mako, Achilles, EOD (my favorite version is Reach) and some of the other Unique helmets excluding the ones that are alien/ancient human tech
I wish these redesigns could be moded into the game, the eldewrito community got to replace models in the engine a long time ago and just a few weeks a guy figured out how to import new objects into halo mcc (I don't remember if only reach tho). These redesigns fit so well with the halo 3 art style!
You're really talented! I think if your were to branch out from Halo you could genuinely see a lot of success on youtube! I mean, the editing is there too!
Out of all of the new helmets they added, the warrior variant from Halo 4 would have been better suited than whatever 343i added to Halo 3. Air assault as it was added into Halo 3 is also pretty safe in terms of art style. The version of warrior this dude made looks really good for Halo 3.
Damn now those helmet looks siicckkk, although i am a kind of person that like the 343 style a little bit more than the Bungie one those new Online armors in 3 really push the limits in terms of the way it looking (I am looking at you Hivemind and Pioneer and now Rine). I would like to see you do the other part of the suit as well as the other armors.
Brilliant work as always. Another thing I admire is how you're respectful towards the original designers. There's often a lot of vitriol online but your videos don't encourage that at all that which is really great.
@@Nefnoj heheheh I felt that. But yeah disliking the designs is fine, just when people attack designers personally over it is what's really not ok and this channel handles that aspect of giving criticism on 343/halo online designs really well.
@@LouseGrouse Oh yeah, I agree, I remember when the armor was initially announced how much backlash there was, people were so toxic, I really felt bad for 343 because they have incredible artists, but change is hard, and people have their preferences. I'm still going to strut my Pioneer helmet with pride.
Yes, these are all major improvements. My favorite redesign has got to be the Warrior one. Out of 343's armors it was, in my opinion, the best looking aside from Air Assault. The Halo Online version didn't look as good to me, so your redesign fitting Halo 3's art style makes it look like I'd even consider using it. The other designs also look really nice. Although I'm not sure if Hivemind is savable, or a lost cause, but I think you still did good.
The importance of a concept artists really shows through the 343 games. They were so focused on making their own style of Halo, that it came out looking like a different game and decided on all the designs that should've really been rejected. Thankfully Halo Infinite will do a much better job of fusing the bungie era style.
If you look at some of Bungie's concept art they had some really off the wall shit too, it's the job of a concept artist to draw out dozens upon dozens of designs, throwing shit at a wall so to speak. Then a decision maker comes along and only picks a couple of concepts to further develop. I am guessing there are some good designs in the bottom of a waste paper basket at 343i and all these weird ones were chosen for the games for some reason.
That Air Assault is like a perfect stepping stone between Reach's Mark V[B] version and 4 and 5's GENII version while fitting perfectly in 3's art style. Great job on all of these!
Think about it, those armors could be perfect to combine both styles they could take advantage of the situation but now with your incredible designs it's enough
In that timeline, Master Chief might still be at rest in cryo sleep instead of being whorred out. The Forerunners might still be left in mystery instead of boring and generic robots with the lore completely retconned.
I liked you bringing Air Assault back towards its Halo: Reach origins and the choice of the ODST helmet for inspiration was very apt. The Air Assault armour was the Army's version of ODST, they're sister systems and are supposed to look somewhat alike.
people still would have complained if 343 followed the same style as you. Halo fans are toxic ,created a trend where they can't accept any new addition by 343
I genuinely loved these designs. I wasn't too big of a fan of your first redesign video with the BR and Magnum, etc. But this, oh this I love. Every one of them are beautiful and fit in perfectly. Great job!
343 really should hire you as a merge art director or something. Like someone that merges the new armor and weapons into similar designs from the originals.
@@EMoney0527 Sure thing, gamer. This whole update wasn't needed and is the second biggest insult to Halo's legacy after crossplay with k&m (which can not be successfully disabled in social games). The third insult may be the change of already existing Halo 3 models (or second, as we can now disable this cyka blyat online crap, but the redesigns not).
These are incredible and I really love them and they truly do fit Halo 3, but I feel like these designs lose a lot of their intended vibes, because of this the Warrior and Pilot. The armor itself, the color contrast, they're all incredible, but the silhouette and visors were changed so drastically that they no longer feel like the original helmet, but brand new helmets instead. Which is cool, I love all these designs, but I don't think that was your intent. If anyone uses these helmets, I'd love to see your thoughts. I think the best way to go about your redesigns is to keep the original visors and silhouette as their own layers in the file, and to create your art around them. The visors and silhouette weren't the difference in art style from Bungie-to-343, it was the excess detail, something you fixed INCREDIBLY well in adapting to Halo 3's art style. Deadeye's original visor looked closer to a BR cursor for a more Sniper vibe, and now it looks like a Crusader helmet. The Soldier's original helmet looked very angry, mostly in the mouth and nose structure, but mostly in the skeptical eye. I think the original looks very dumb, but I understand the vibe it's going for. Air Assault never lost that original feeling and still has the soul of the original helmet, though I felt like it lost a few sharp angles in the visor it benefited from. Hivemind lost its entire soul. The original looks like a skull, with its round head, and teeth. The eyeliner improved it entirely, and the jaw piece was a great touch, but turning the head into a box shape loses the skull entirely, it now looks like a Nightvision helmet. I think you understood the fantasy vibe of the Navigator, but its original visor looked like a smooth gem, which was the central theming of the magic helmet. The Warrior is good, but I noticed that the jawline is a bit more slender, losing that muscle. Your work is incredible, and I love it, I'm eager to see what else you do. I use the Pioneer helmet primarily (fun fact, it was originally called the Chameleon helmet in the system files) so if you make any design changes to it, I really look forward to seeing them! I hope I didn't come across as overly critical, one of your original videos specified you like critique and I wanted to offer my thoughts as someone who loves both.
Completely valid criticism, I hear you! I did redesign some of these quite a lot, so I see how some of them lost their original look. Moving forward, I'll definitely keep more of the original in these designs. Although I will say, I think it was necessary to change some of the silhouettes, especially the Soldier and the Hivemind. Their very rounded look made it hard to come off as something from Halo 3. But like you said, keeping more of the original is definitely something I'll keep in considiration when I make another one of these. Thank you so much for the feedback!
Real talk he had to almost completely ditch the original design on some of these to even come close to a traditional bungie design. 343's designs for the most part are nearly antithetical to Halo's established art style. They look like something out of a bad Anime, everything overstated and cluttered with extraneous details.
Your doing this basically for free and a better job overall maintaining a halo look then the people who were paid to for halo 4 and 5. Good work Soldier, these are fine addition's I consider at home in the halo art style
Could you do this same concept but with the elites? Like making their honor guard armor or maybe armors they had in the 343 games. I feel that would be insanely cool.
This is what everyone wanted designers in 343i to be doing: respecting the heritage while trying to move forward in time. Wernissage... if you ended up someday as Art Director at 343i (a spiritual successor to Marcus Lehto in Bungie) I would not be surprised at all. Proper good job!
I think a majority of the helmets are excellent redesigns! Basically perfect translations into 3's art style. I think Halo needs a bit more helmets like the hivemind redesign, the only thing I can think of that comes close to it is Linda's helm. Argus is probably one of the coolest 343 era helmets, imo. As for the critiques, I think Dead Eye & Navigator are a bit lost in the redesign. Like I kinda prefer the shapes of the original of those 2. I think Deadeye would be a bit more fit for a new helmet entirely, & then Navigator's redesign seems a bit more like the Strider.
I actually love these designs. If they kept this asthetic with the h4 and h5 designs I doubt that there would be any backlash. You even managed to make the awful helmets look somewhat cool and halo-esk
It is honestly amazing to see these helmet designs. I never would have thought in a million years that the Hivemind helmet could look good in a Halo game, and you proved me wrong. Honestly, the simplified designs and eyeliner really sell these helmets. Hell, I believe that the original Air Assault would look perfect in Halo 3 if it had some eyeliner on it, and it just goes to show that tons of details can take away from the end product. While I'm happy that the guys who designed the Halo Online armor got to have their designs in the MCC, I have to say that I would much rather have your designs!
I think you said it perfectly. That “eyeliner” is what I think is missing from a lot of new Halo helmets and why the only one I love is Halo 4/5’s scout which has that eyeliner
And because that was pointed out, I finally understand why girls like eyeliner now.
The thing missing is the majority no longer look practical or even a mature design. The first one shown was ridiculous asf
@@Handsomeguy-kj2jg ikr, they don't look like something a super soldier would wear
@@Handsomeguy-kj2jg the 343 version never looked practical anyways
@@raaaaaaaaaam496 I like master chief himself decently but that’s about it. I really don’t like arbiter and his weird ass energy sword
This is amazing. You really nailed the style. I’d wear all of them.
Thanks man, I’m honored
Yooo, chris know about wern ❤
I'm still not wearing Hivemind lol
@@Wernissage even the Hivemind not looks so off now, will roll a RNG for a "helmet of a day" I'm using for a next 24hrs when playing some Halo if I had all those)
I can tell just by the thumbnail that 343 should really hire you
Well nothing is impossible I would like to send some of his videos to Hiddenxperia to see what he thinks.
@@CaliberKing117 dew it
@@CaliberKing117 "ObSoLuTeLy IcOnIc, GaMeRz. Ima bout to make a full hour video just about that, without any need to or even worthwile things to say"
Expect something like that 🤷♂️
To answer you question @Wernissage my favorite is HiveMind, the original... needed some work and your redesigning is the answer. It kind of reminds me of what I do for a living.
There amazing I appreciate his work but you can't appease the Halo fanbase even if the helmets looked like this for the update hoards of people would still have been
I really like the redesigned hive mind helmet, that thing is fuckin scary
It's got that Sam Fisher look.
More Sam Fisher, less skeletal Bumble Bee.
@@SudsyMedusa53 I was thinking the exact same thing. Especially since i usually have a green visor in game
looks like the tactical droid from clone wars
More like pure evil eyes in the darkness.
343 should really hire you. you do an excellent job on combining Bungie and 343 art style so well and you make your own banish weapons that look and Sound amazing.
Thank you!
@@Wernissage I agree with him, you’re good bro 👍🏽
agreed he did so well
Trust me when I say it’s not the designers ruining the game. It’s the people who are hiring them to begin with
@@phatloud True.
Imagine if 343 added similar designs to Wernissage's in a dlc as a reference or easter egg.
well 343 said they won't make any new armor to the halo mcc games but the halo online armor is already made so instead of "making" them they could edit them although a complete redesign would probably be considered to much to do with there small team
but they could have it like the under suits like for hive mind wernissage's is gen 1 and the new ones are the movement to gen 2 like how they added odst armor form fire team raven how now there's 5 odst helmets in halo 3
@@jancevaughn8539 I meant for Infinite, as the popular theory is that 343 will be releasing dlcs for that
@@alexanderthegreat6682 oh no there's definitely going to be dlc it's basically confirmed camping and multiplayer they did say if people wanted the classic shot gun and magnum it would be added later down the line remember this is a game meant to last 10 years there not gonna give us multiplayer and campaign and not add anything
I think they should actually rework all of the new armor to look like some of these I love it soo much or what if they added some kind of Bethesda like creation club where people could come up with their own version of armor and we could use season points on it that would be cool
Dude you just solve one of the biggest problems in modern halo, your readings are innovative but still quite halo looking, it mixes perfectly the vibe of old and new halo
Thank you!
God dammit Werni, you're so amazing
no u
@@Wernissage shhh accept it. You're better
@@Wernissage no u, ily u
Does anyone feel like 343 has a different perception on armor than the community. they seem to go for uniqueness and kinda off the wall designs, when it seems the community wants those qualities but would rather a more realistic Military look (as realistic as a 2552 space warrior armor can look)
I see where you are coming from, I’ve never thought about it like that before
343s designs just come off as generic videogame sci-fi, always overdesigned and needlessly intricate. Honestly some of their work looks like the kind of stuff I'd find on a free 3D asset site.
Taking over a franchise from another studio is always hard, but it shouldn't be _this_ hard, especially if fans and hobbyists are giving better input for free on their own time.
343 also just has a real bad tendency to *way* overdesign everything. The classic Halo armor sort of resembled tank armor scaled down to human size; generally pretty smooth and angular. 343 adds so much texture and so many angles to all their stuff it just has way too much visual noise
I like to see Bungie art style as a Action-figure style, blocky, simple, and with heavy toy potential, 343 art style feels like something that I could see in sci-fi modern movies, or in some weird statues, not in practical action-figures, that’s my best way to tell the differences between both styles
They use more modern sci-fi looks instead of the 80s/90s retro futuristic look of Bungie’s games. I wish they would understand why the Halo 3 community generally didn’t like these designs and change them. I hope modders fix these armors entire when we get mod support
I honestly really want to rock some of these helmets when hopping on Mcc. Crazy how these fit into Halo 3 so well with the redesigns.
Glad to hear it, thanks!
You might be able to thanks to eventual mod support
With the model importing tools now available someone could recreate these designs in blender port them into the game
@@aceskeletonne7446 that is true, and I hope to see what could be done. However, I’d imagine that great collaboration is a necessity to make this a reality.
@@Wernissage Can you please make more redesigns? Like a full series of redesigns turning 4, Online, and 5's Spartans (Helmets, Torsos, Arms, Legs, etc) towards the Classic Art Style?
I’d wear that hivemind redesign. Somehow the increased believability and viability of use makes it even more creepy...
I still feel 2 eyeholes would be a better look than 3, because your mind would more easily recognize it as something staring at you. It would make you on edge whenever you saw these usually faceless masks seem to stare directly at you
@@Espartanica I think it’s pretty much impossible to make that helmet look good. 3 holes is just too much.
@@raaaaaaaaaam496 that helmet is literaly medicant bias upside down in a halo 4 spartan flood face.
Am I really the only one who likes Hivemind...
@@mee4644 I think it's cool. I still prefer the redesign. The three eyes of both versions is very "splinter cell", and clearly based on the three eyed chick from Destiny 1 and 2 who is partially connected to and can interact with the hive mind of the Hive. Hence the name.
Boy, I’d love a mod that transforms all those art style infringing pieces of armor. These redesigns were fantastic
I never realized how important the eyeliner, black highlights, and depth were to make the old style so distinct. I only figured the simple angles and lack of random details mattered. These redesigns look great, I would definitely use a few of them.
The Hivemind helmet looks like a Droid General from the clone wars
I calculate that the odds of anyone else thinking this is 999 to 1.
You're kinda right!
I knew it looked familiar
Yup, looks exactly like a Super Tactical Droid.
Yep
“I’m not saying I’m doing a better job than 343...”
Uh. Well. You are. Straight up.
Your air assault looks like a unique version of the air assault we’d see in Headhunters, from Halo Evolution. I really like the design!
That's actually true, thanks!
THAT’S WHY THAT LOOKED SO FAMILIAR!
How did you manage to make EVERY SINGLE ONE look like 10 times better?
There amazing I appreciate his work but you can't appease the Halo fanbase even if the helmets looked like this for the update hoards of people would still have been complaining. The Halo fanbase is splintered, decisive, and most importantly "bipolar".
@@shangothunder1055 there would've been less of a backlash if the helmets had looked like this to begin. Also, what do you mean by "bipolar"?
@@gonnsolo8506 The halo community get mad at everything that 343 does, there will be people complaining no matter what they did.
@@shangothunder1055 A reply so good you had to use it more than once
@@Fellovidual yes there will be, but 343 can minimize it by making good changes. Nobody complained about the different visor colours in CE and 3, for example
343: how do we fix the helmets
Wernisagge: E Y E L I N E R
Sometimes less detail makes the helmets a lot better... Even the Hive Mind. Good Job man! 👍🏻
PS: The last helmet is a good redesign.
Yeah I think if 343 had just added less details and given the helmets ‘eyeliner’ they would all fit in so much better
Thank you!
The last helmet looks straight out of a bungie concept art I’ve seen, but in a good way
A simple, but not quite brutalistic elegance, which looks rugged and somewhat simple as one expects of military hardware.
Sooooo much better, these helmets actually FEEL like theyre from halo 3
Thank you!
Not only that, they look like something from Halo in general
Good stuff, your designs seem to keep the distinct flare that reminds you that it is a 343 era helmet, but actually accomplished the task of fitting into Halo 3 (rather than looking like it accidentally wandered over from halo 4)
Edit: fixed autocorrect
Thank you!
"I'm not saying I did a better job than 343"
I'm not sure 343 did the Online armors but either way these would have been a much more welcome addition than whatever those monstrosities we actually got were, so I'll go ahead and say it for ya.
Yes, you did a much better job than 343, good work.
There amazing I appreciate his work but you can't appease the Halo fanbase even if the helmets looked like this for the update hoards of people would still have been
343 didn't make these armos for Halo Online another company did, and all they did was port and touch them up.
@@mangogearsolid Expected as much, but I still think it was a bad call to put them in Halo 3 of all things
SOME of the helmets are fine, like air assault, its fine!
@@shangothunder1055 not if this was implemented right. Those Halo Online armors should have been implemented in H4 because the art Style is literally the same. Halo 3 should have been a way to implement armors like og Mark V, concept armors from H3, armors like Halo Legends, Mark IV with it's techsuit... Even Reach armors but not Halo 4 armors imo. But hey it's free content to a 12 years old Game and I am enjoying every bit of It. There's a lot of people making armors with custom parts of old and new and they look cool AF
343, take some notes. Simple, and rough, and if needed, some "eyeliner".
Lmao. I was talking to my friend about redesigning them myself, only by drawing. Beat me to it lol. You did SO WELL dude
These redesign all look like faithful Halo 3 designs while keeping the uniqueness of each one !
Yeah, and lore wise I suppose, these redesigns can very easily be potentially described as early models of these helmets, with the later models being in Halo 4 and 5.
you literally took an entire studios artstyle and proved that they did it wrong in 4 and 5
like im actually amazed holy fuck
Nope that's subjective you can't prove a taste/flavor is better. You can't appease the Halo fanbase even if the helmets looked like this for the update hoards of people would still have been complaining.
@@shangothunder1055 it’s objectively more halo
@@ayyultra6280 Nope who decides that?
Thank you!
@@shangothunder1055 It's true, it's just subjective. It's okay to feel differently about that!:)
Petition for someone to model these and mod them into MCC
Yes
The black “eye liner” just makes them all look so much better and really makes the helmets stand out in comparison to their halo online counterparts. Good work :)
ur redesign of hive mind is basically the ged helmet where it has one eye spot and the visor is till there but covered
Werni since you have proved yourself time & time again at blending art designs from halo's original trilogy & the reclaimer saga,
343 should definitely hire you without a doubt.
I love the Hivemind redesign. The three eyes remind me of the Splinter Cell night vision goggles.
For years, I have personally wondered what 343 armors would look like, but my sketches never looked this good. I love your vids man!!!
I don't know how you do it lol. This shit is nuts
Haha thanks!
I read that in Sgt. Johnson’s voice for some reason.
Dude you nailed all of these. The designs you make feel classic, yet new.
Thank you!
Every redesign is much more preferable to me than what we already have.
i think the deadeye redesign is my favourite. the cross shaped visor gives it such a unique look while looking more simplified into fitting with 3's style
Only 20 waiting!? We've got to get these numbers up folks.
I swear the combinations between the helmet designs you chose and made, blew me away, and yes the eyeliner being added in makes it feel halo even more. It felt like you had the halo armour secret formula.
Your Hivemind redesign looks a lot like Halo Reach's Commando helmet, I like it, good job!
Your redesigns are fantastic! The redesign of the Warrior really speaks to me.
343 really should hire you. You blend the old and new styles perfectly to me.
this is essentially that spongebob episode about drawing a perfect circle, where he draws a highly detailed face and then earases all the detail until its a circle.
These look so rad. Top-notch, lovely work on these redesigns! I think my favorites were the Soldier and Warrior helmets, I'd definitely wear your renditions of them.
i wish we would actually get these in game in the future
I love every iteration of the Air Assult helmet and your redesign gives me life
Yo yes these are perfect I mean the one with 3 circles is still weird but way more improvement. Should be the halo infinite helmets
All of these are infinitely better if only they just knew what a spartan should look like. I mean thank God they look like they are doing well for the infinite armor. Your version of that warrior helmet was probably my favorite nice work
They say the Air Assault helmet was meant to be a spartan equivalent of the ODST helmet, your design honors that
You did an outstanding job giving these helmets a halo 3 redesign. Your helmets, I'd actually use
Never thought hive mind would look like an actually wearable helmet, kinda looks like an nvg setup
Sam Fisher vibes
These are incredibly fun, and they're well-designed. Seeing your designs makes me realize what makes the H3 style so unique, too. Thank you for making this.
The warrior could have retained a bit more of the source material imo, but it’s still a fantastic redesign.
Fair enough, thank you!
I think Warrior as it appeared in H4 would have been a better base, it already looks a lot closer to Bungie style than the Halo Online version
You should definitely do more!!! Mako, Achilles, EOD (my favorite version is Reach) and some of the other Unique helmets excluding the ones that are alien/ancient human tech
I wish these redesigns could be moded into the game, the eldewrito community got to replace models in the engine a long time ago and just a few weeks a guy figured out how to import new objects into halo mcc (I don't remember if only reach tho). These redesigns fit so well with the halo 3 art style!
You're really talented! I think if your were to branch out from Halo you could genuinely see a lot of success on youtube! I mean, the editing is there too!
Possibly in the future🤔 Thank you!
The redesigns capture back the tank-ish look that spartan armor should have. Great work!
wow, the soldier is my absolute least favorite helmet, and your redesign is one of my favorites, even among OG halo 3 helmets.
Dude.... Artist to artist... You fucking killed it
"I'm not saying im doing a better job than 343" That's the general consensus lul
8:20 the hivemind recreation is one of the most beautiful things I may have ever seen
The redesigned hive helmet looks similar to a tactical droid from star wars
What’s funny is how without the triple eye attachment, the hivemind looks like a Halo 3 version of Aviator.
Excellent stuff. I would love to see your take on how halo 3 helmets would look with armor additions, especially UA and CBRN.
i like how he just changed the warrior helmet back to normal lmao
Out of all of the new helmets they added, the warrior variant from Halo 4 would have been better suited than whatever 343i added to Halo 3. Air assault as it was added into Halo 3 is also pretty safe in terms of art style. The version of warrior this dude made looks really good for Halo 3.
4:20 the result reminded me a lot of the scout helmet
Not sure I’ll care much about this video but, considering it’s Wernissage, I can’t wait
@@ReachTea Halo Online
@@lebendigesgespenst7669 A reasonable argument.
The redesigned Hivemind kind of reminds me of Reach's Operator helmet. Seeing as how that is one of my personal favorites, very nice.
The Navigator redesign reminds me of Oceanic from Halo 4. Overall, I appreciate the work you do even if not every redesign is my cup of tea.
Thank you!
My god that air assault helmet is fantastic. You’ve nailed the look.
Damn now those helmet looks siicckkk, although i am a kind of person that like the 343 style a little bit more than the Bungie one those new Online armors in 3 really push the limits in terms of the way it looking (I am looking at you Hivemind and Pioneer and now Rine). I would like to see you do the other part of the suit as well as the other armors.
I'd love to do the rest of the armors some day!
Brilliant work as always.
Another thing I admire is how you're respectful towards the original designers. There's often a lot of vitriol online but your videos don't encourage that at all that which is really great.
He really held back on his dislike of the original Hivemind and it was hysterical.
@@Nefnoj heheheh I felt that.
But yeah disliking the designs is fine, just when people attack designers personally over it is what's really not ok and this channel handles that aspect of giving criticism on 343/halo online designs really well.
@@LouseGrouse Oh yeah, I agree, I remember when the armor was initially announced how much backlash there was, people were so toxic, I really felt bad for 343 because they have incredible artists, but change is hard, and people have their preferences.
I'm still going to strut my Pioneer helmet with pride.
I hope that someone makes this into a mod, so that people can see these redesigns in multiplayer instead of what's there currently.
I know I would download that mod immediately if it becomes a thing
Honestly, these redesigns look like they could all fit in Infinte. Great work btw
343 GIVE THIS MAN A JOB ON THE TEAM
Yes, these are all major improvements. My favorite redesign has got to be the Warrior one. Out of 343's armors it was, in my opinion, the best looking aside from Air Assault. The Halo Online version didn't look as good to me, so your redesign fitting Halo 3's art style makes it look like I'd even consider using it.
The other designs also look really nice. Although I'm not sure if Hivemind is savable, or a lost cause, but I think you still did good.
The importance of a concept artists really shows through the 343 games. They were so focused on making their own style of Halo, that it came out looking like a different game and decided on all the designs that should've really been rejected. Thankfully Halo Infinite will do a much better job of fusing the bungie era style.
If you look at some of Bungie's concept art they had some really off the wall shit too, it's the job of a concept artist to draw out dozens upon dozens of designs, throwing shit at a wall so to speak. Then a decision maker comes along and only picks a couple of concepts to further develop. I am guessing there are some good designs in the bottom of a waste paper basket at 343i and all these weird ones were chosen for the games for some reason.
That Air Assault is like a perfect stepping stone between Reach's Mark V[B] version and 4 and 5's GENII version while fitting perfectly in 3's art style. Great job on all of these!
That looks hot ngl
Think about it, those armors could be perfect to combine both styles they could take advantage of the situation but now with your incredible designs it's enough
There's an alternate timeline out there where you work at 343 and their designs don't look like ass.
Lol that's the dream!
... wouldn't that also be the timeline where 343 actually was generally in the fans good graces and there was less hatred for post obst games?
I don’t think that’s how it exactly works but things could be better.
In that timeline, Master Chief might still be at rest in cryo sleep instead of being whorred out. The Forerunners might still be left in mystery instead of boring and generic robots with the lore completely retconned.
All of your videos are absolutely breathtaking, the transformations you put these pieces of equipment through is amazing
Get this man a job at 343
I liked you bringing Air Assault back towards its Halo: Reach origins and the choice of the ODST helmet for inspiration was very apt. The Air Assault armour was the Army's version of ODST, they're sister systems and are supposed to look somewhat alike.
people still would have complained if 343 followed the same style as you. Halo fans are toxic ,created a trend where they can't accept any new addition by 343
I genuinely loved these designs. I wasn't too big of a fan of your first redesign video with the BR and Magnum, etc. But this, oh this I love. Every one of them are beautiful and fit in perfectly. Great job!
man made actual halo 3 looking helmets, looks good.
its a shame 343 is incompetant and imported the janky models they use
343 really should hire you as a merge art director or something. Like someone that merges the new armor and weapons into similar designs from the originals.
Imagine if 343 had enough critical thinking skills to do this.
They cannot accept criticism.
You want the small team working on MCC to fully redesign the Halo online armor?
Or if the original russian creators had
@@EMoney0527 Sure thing, gamer.
This whole update wasn't needed and is the second biggest insult to Halo's legacy after crossplay with k&m (which can not be successfully disabled in social games).
The third insult may be the change of already existing Halo 3 models (or second, as we can now disable this cyka blyat online crap, but the redesigns not).
@@SUBZERO-rd5oq They can, but a lot of criticism they get is just complaints these days so it gets hard to filter out what's useful
This makes me wish for complete mod support to come for Halo MCC. I would love to wear that Warrior Helmet.
These are incredible and I really love them and they truly do fit Halo 3, but I feel like these designs lose a lot of their intended vibes, because of this the Warrior and Pilot. The armor itself, the color contrast, they're all incredible, but the silhouette and visors were changed so drastically that they no longer feel like the original helmet, but brand new helmets instead. Which is cool, I love all these designs, but I don't think that was your intent. If anyone uses these helmets, I'd love to see your thoughts.
I think the best way to go about your redesigns is to keep the original visors and silhouette as their own layers in the file, and to create your art around them. The visors and silhouette weren't the difference in art style from Bungie-to-343, it was the excess detail, something you fixed INCREDIBLY well in adapting to Halo 3's art style.
Deadeye's original visor looked closer to a BR cursor for a more Sniper vibe, and now it looks like a Crusader helmet.
The Soldier's original helmet looked very angry, mostly in the mouth and nose structure, but mostly in the skeptical eye. I think the original looks very dumb, but I understand the vibe it's going for.
Air Assault never lost that original feeling and still has the soul of the original helmet, though I felt like it lost a few sharp angles in the visor it benefited from.
Hivemind lost its entire soul. The original looks like a skull, with its round head, and teeth. The eyeliner improved it entirely, and the jaw piece was a great touch, but turning the head into a box shape loses the skull entirely, it now looks like a Nightvision helmet.
I think you understood the fantasy vibe of the Navigator, but its original visor looked like a smooth gem, which was the central theming of the magic helmet.
The Warrior is good, but I noticed that the jawline is a bit more slender, losing that muscle.
Your work is incredible, and I love it, I'm eager to see what else you do. I use the Pioneer helmet primarily (fun fact, it was originally called the Chameleon helmet in the system files) so if you make any design changes to it, I really look forward to seeing them!
I hope I didn't come across as overly critical, one of your original videos specified you like critique and I wanted to offer my thoughts as someone who loves both.
Completely valid criticism, I hear you! I did redesign some of these quite a lot, so I see how some of them lost their original look. Moving forward, I'll definitely keep more of the original in these designs. Although I will say, I think it was necessary to change some of the silhouettes, especially the Soldier and the Hivemind. Their very rounded look made it hard to come off as something from Halo 3.
But like you said, keeping more of the original is definitely something I'll keep in considiration when I make another one of these.
Thank you so much for the feedback!
Real talk he had to almost completely ditch the original design on some of these to even come close to a traditional bungie design. 343's designs for the most part are nearly antithetical to Halo's established art style. They look like something out of a bad Anime, everything overstated and cluttered with extraneous details.
Your doing this basically for free and a better job overall maintaining a halo look then the people who were paid to for halo 4 and 5. Good work Soldier, these are fine addition's I consider at home in the halo art style
Hes gonna put 343 designers in their place lmao
Wasn't online developed by Bungee?
The online armours weren't made by 343.
The Online armors were made by Saber Interactive (the same guys behind HCEA and H2A + MCC dev support).
Deadeye and Hivemind are my favorite by far. Great work.
Could you do this same concept but with the elites? Like making their honor guard armor or maybe armors they had in the 343 games. I feel that would be insanely cool.
Fantastic work my man, I love seeing your redesigns. Cant wait for your next one.👍👍
Wow your redesigns are really good. I like how you streamline the helmets to make them look sleek without compleatly overwriting the original.
I would absolutely love to see your helmets incorporated in the mcc, even though I kinda still like the halo online helmets
The redesign of the hive mind looks like a super tactical droid from Star Wars.
This is what everyone wanted designers in 343i to be doing: respecting the heritage while trying to move forward in time.
Wernissage... if you ended up someday as Art Director at 343i (a spiritual successor to Marcus Lehto in Bungie) I would not be surprised at all.
Proper good job!
I think a majority of the helmets are excellent redesigns! Basically perfect translations into 3's art style.
I think Halo needs a bit more helmets like the hivemind redesign, the only thing I can think of that comes close to it is Linda's helm. Argus is probably one of the coolest 343 era helmets, imo.
As for the critiques, I think Dead Eye & Navigator are a bit lost in the redesign. Like I kinda prefer the shapes of the original of those 2.
I think Deadeye would be a bit more fit for a new helmet entirely, & then Navigator's redesign seems a bit more like the Strider.
I actually love these designs. If they kept this asthetic with the h4 and h5 designs I doubt that there would be any backlash. You even managed to make the awful helmets look somewhat cool and halo-esk
It is honestly amazing to see these helmet designs. I never would have thought in a million years that the Hivemind helmet could look good in a Halo game, and you proved me wrong.
Honestly, the simplified designs and eyeliner really sell these helmets. Hell, I believe that the original Air Assault would look perfect in Halo 3 if it had some eyeliner on it, and it just goes to show that tons of details can take away from the end product. While I'm happy that the guys who designed the Halo Online armor got to have their designs in the MCC, I have to say that I would much rather have your designs!