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For Three Houses, I'd say Randolph or Gwendal should have been the recruitable ones. Gwendal would be easy enough in Azure Moon if he could be convinced to prioritize loyalty to the King over loyalty to House Rowe, OR we could just promise him really good fights to come. Randolph would be harder, but I think if Caspar defeated him, something could be wrangled in all non-AM routes.
Garon from Fates. I know it seems weird but i want to get to know how he was because of the dialog with the children of Nohr and if it only can happen if you marry him then so be it.
Mustafa from awakening. He's a good man who was at the wrong place at the wrong time. I mean he treated his soldiers kindly too. He would've been a great unit too being the only canonical beserker as well.
I definitely agree. Maybe if there was an option to spare him in his own chapter, and he would reflect on the cruel deeds of Gangrel and join chrom and co shortly after the battle with gangrel (or during that chapter) for showing the same kind of honor that he believed in.
@@Yarharsuperpirate As much as that might be possible, he states that if he joins the Shepherds, Gangrel would kill his family to set an example. And as much as any enemy general has personal honor, they would do most services where their loved ones are in peril.
I would honestly want Selena from Sacred Stones to be recruitable. I know that she is the Camus archetype of that game but out of all of Camus’ I feel like Selena is the one who has the most traitorous thoughts out of all of them.
I think if Selena knows about Vigarde's fate, she may join Duessel. She may be easier to recruit than Brunnya. But most traitorous thoughts? She thinks like a stereotypical Camus. She cares about her monarch (who is dead the whole time) and the people. Can't betray your monarch if he's dead!
Xaizor joining Alm could also be a neat way of foreshadowing the twist about Rudolf, since he's loyal to him. Roro/Legion could instead be one of the brothers that survived getting wiped out with the rest, and joins you to try and find and become himself.
Also the fact that she's a branded in a country known for its racism, and yet still has a position as a General and openly displays that brand because Ashnard's rule lets her have that position. especially when literally everyone (Laguz/Beorc alike) hate the branded.
@@aiguels5518 Yes, Bryce is the one who's ultra loyal to Ashnard purely because he's the last of Daein's royal bloodline. Even though he knows Ashnard killed the rest including his father.
Nah, I think someone like Homasa, Hafed, or Kimaarsi would be better recruitable minor bosses. None of them seem like particularly bad people and have potentially believable reasons to defect.
I would consider Zola from Fates as an option. He really gets a raw deal in all 3 routes. Both Conquest and Revelation he gets killed by Leo, and in Birthright he gets killed by Garon *right in front of Elise.* He really can't catch a break.
Had Zola succeeded he would've ended the war extremely early, honestly if the end were to ever justify the means then it would be this time, also he acted very loyal to both Corrine and garron right before he died
Honestly Zola in Birthright would've been great As far as I'm aware, FE never really had a mole who was still secretly loyal to the enemy nation but ends up betraying them simply because the players army was willing to show kindness
For FE16, Dimitri (specifically in VW). I would do this by adding Dimitri to the fight against Edelgard next to Dedue, and the two joining (with weakened growths) if both of them survive & the enemies on the corner they start off on die.
I was not expecting this one to be so long. Consider me surprised! To contribute the topic: In Mystery of the Emblem, I guess more or less everyone from Eremiya's assassin gang could be made recruitable (sans Eremiya herself) given their tragic and depressing circumstances, which has a ton of support potential. Edit: Also Pheros' idea is pretty good! There also aren't that many playable units fit for the Valkyrie class besides Maribelle, so having another option would be pretty neat.
I like that idea, maybe for Clarrise, have her defect if beaten by Kris. Who then explains the actual situation of whats going on and how they are working on saving Katarina from this horrible situation as well.
Eremiya herself was also mind controlled by Garnef, and it's only revealed as she's bleeding to death, at which point she regrets everything she's been doing.
I always thought that a Camus typically fought against the protagonist out of loyalty to their country. Lonato joined the church rebels because he wanted revenge for his son's execution. He doesn't really answer to a higher lord or king despite being in the kingdom. If anything, he betrays the other kingdom lords by trying to rebel against the Church of Seiros. His personality traits fit in with other Camus though, so there is that.
@@starseeker3002 Yeah, I realized in that mission, before you even have a choice, you are being the bad guy or at least acting on their behalf. I can't actually think of a practical way to keep Lonato alive because Rhea and Catherine will find out. Maybe have Ashe spare him and he comes back in part 2 only in CF? Though that means no Catherine Lonato redemption arc lol
I was thinking Kronya. Had a support built up even. It tackles the true nature of the Agarthans, and Solon & Thales. The two would sacrifice anyone for their vengeance.
I'd love to see Seeker form POR be recruitable. Main reason is that Neasala is the only playable raven in the game and it would be cool to get another at that point.
Fargus, he would join you near the end of the game among with Nils with two conditions: 1-Dart is alive and has at least one support space left. 2-The combined level of your lords is 75 or higher. For the Dart condition before going to battle, he will tell him something, as soon as starting the chapter you can support them, the support chain will basically go about how they met, in the A support he will reveal Dart that his name is not Dart and revealing somewhat of the truth I guess. The lords condition is simple, Fargus’s bases will be very high, for that, your lords have to be strong enough, he will recognize their strength and growth joining them, of course you have to train your lords (idk, promoting the three at lvl 20 and when promoted the three are at least lvl5), your reward is the unit with strongest bases in the game.
In my eyes, it would make more sense if the condition wasn't dart being alive, but rather dart being defeated in "the port of badon". Fargus joins the lords at the end and the mission of telling everyone in case they don't return goes to dart instead.
I understand choosing Pheros for Awakening, but a great alternative would be Mustafa. it could be done by visiting one of the villages in an earlier chapter, causing his family and the other villagers to become refugees and go to Ylisse, meaning Gangrel doesnt have leverage anymore. Maybe even make him recruitable by Robin instead of Chrom, which would be pretty unique
Definitely Selena from Sacred Stones (Best Selena) she really needed redemption by joining forces with Ephraim and Eirika, seeing Duesell and Cormag would've been enough to convince her that she was on the wrong side
I was hoping to see Sigune on this list, and I wasn't disappointed. What wasn't mentioned with her is that Roy's army is approaching under the name of the *Etrurian Army*. So when Sigune is talking with her subordinate, she's under the assumption that it's just Etruria coming to conquer them, and that they're no different from Bern. Which is made so much worse when you remember what Etruria was doing to the people of the Western Isles, and Roartz/Arcard's corruption. I would also add Zelot to the list of people who could defeat and recruit her. Not only is Sigune supposed to be Juno's best friend/rival, and Zelot should be more inclined to spare her, but Zelot originally met Juno as a hired enemy before he got to know and marry her. Then on top of that, Zelot is the one who's responsible for rebuilding, reviving, and becoming Ilia's first king in his ending. Not only does he have experience keeping enemy Ilian mercenaries alive, but he cares the most about Ilia itself, so I've always had the headcanon that him defeating her has her survive. Same for any of the generic pegasus/falco knights you face throughout the game.
Would've gone with Veyona for the Radiant Dawn pick. That way you'd have a dark magic user who doesn't require a second playthrough of the game to get. Plus he clearly resents working for the Begnion senators and being stuck at a supply outpost.
For 3H, I'd go the Oliver route, and have Acheron recruit himself if you defeat the Imperial Generals before him. Changing sides at the drop of a hat to save his own skin is a very Acheron move.
I couldn't be more delighted that Pheros made it on the list. I've always loved her design and felt like she deserved at least another chapter or two of characterization.
Not so much as “make them recruitable” but more of a “flesh out their character to be more interesting” would be Candace from Fates. She is super super cute and I wish there was more to her than just being an adventurer who is fat.
I thought about Nichol when I saw the video, and I think he would be an exceedingly interesting character. Both Nichol and Candace seem to have been intended as playable characters, as they actually have cut-ins, which none of the other generic or capturable units have.
@@AzureGreatheart I think a text dump shows those two characters' names next to characters who can only support Corrin, including Rinkah who wasn't left with that limitation. Furthermore, Candace works darn well if reclassed to something other than Adventurer, showing IS cared more about her needing varying outfits rather than staying with her own one... or they were strapped for time.
@@AzureGreatheart Recruiting him even kind of makes sense from a narrative perspective since he has a moment of reflection where he realizes he was wrong after you defeat him.
The pre-battle dialogue between the swordmaster boss and Stefan in PoR could easily double as a recruitment conversation. The boss wants to fight Stefan using the techniques taught to him by his father. Stefan tells him nah git gud lmao, and this is enough to incense him to join your army in the hopes of surpassing Stefan.
@@regalblade8171 The recruitment talk between Raven and Lucius mentions something about eventually backstabbing Hector, right? What if there would be a condition where at some point in Hector Mode, Raven would defect from the party and attack him if he didn't Support either one of Priscilla or Lucius? It would fit right in, and it could be a very rare moment where a character death wouldn't be a game-over condition, with the explanation of Clerics needing a moment with him to recover wounds.
All you guys be forgetting Gheb. Would be a good deal: lose amelia by giving him permission to torture her, get a good unit. And after the war, the player army just jails him for his crimes. Easy.
Concidering New Mystery made Michalis recruitable, who knows, maybe some of these characters will actually be recruitable if their games ever get a remake.
@@regalblade8171 He'd have a support with Ike that basically is Oliver trying to make him see true beauty wherever it is, and Ike holding back from making pork chops out of him
@@Muriuki34 I mean he asks Oliver to join the enemies back in RD, in PoR you only see Oliver while Ike is carrying Leanne with her which mean you can't skip the recruitment (just don't use Rafiel in his map in RD to not recruit him) there would have made sense for Oliver to join and to just break Ike's mind with all his rambling about beauty
Im so glad you mentioned Pheros! Shes always been such a cool minor antagonist in my opinion, and the idea you gave for her recruitment was honestly phenomenal, great stuff!!
One FE:TH character I would want to recruit is Jeralt. Like…we’re given the ability to raise bond with him and have him teach us, but he’s never recruitable. I sorta get it, given story, but it seems like it diminishes the story to not allow us to actually have him have bond conversations with MC and Alois and others. Even if we did lose him for story reasons, at least it would be more impactful because we actually bonded with him.
@@goggles8691 I mean, I haven’t played most FE games. And I don’t really have any in awakening or Fates I’d want to recruit that haven’t been mentioned by others
I agree. Jeralt would have been perfect as an optional Jagen unit who whould have been recruitable like the rest of the knights. And with the join requirements being very leniant due to him being Byleth's fater and all.
@@Yarharsuperpirate Jeralt would've been a great Jagen. He would help a fuckton on maddening and even on the other difficulties he'd still be useful because Jagen. Yes, he dies, but by then most of your units should be just as strong, if not stronger than Jeralt.
Nice list. A few choices of my own: FE2/15 - Magnus: More for his SoV self, but he does show Alm a lot of respect as a fellow warrior. Granted, he is a Baron, but he'd probably be the best lategame one in the party, and a great potential pitchfork choice. FE7 - Sealen: Admittedly part of this is just because it'd give us a nomad in Hector's route far earlier than Rath (or even Uhai if he was recruitable) FE9 - Nedata: C'mon, this pirate's got his own theme and everything! Plus like with Havetti he'd be pretty unique as a playable Bandit. FE10 - Veyona: Being the only Druid boss by default makes this guy interesting enough to want, but he also seemed to really dislike the senators he's set to protect. Probably wouldn't be too hard to get him to just switch sides. Plus he doesn't appear to really hate the Laguz like most of the Begnion minor bosses. FE13 - Raimi: She's by far the easiest one to justify, since she's not a villain and didn't even die in her boss chapter. All they'd have to do is let her join at a higher level a bit later, possibly at the beginning of the Valm arc. FE14 - Zola: It's a shame he died so soon after being 'recruited' in Birthright, he could've been a fun chance to see things from the other side. FE16 - Judith: Okay, this one is kind of a cheat, esp. since she's only a boss on CF and I'd want her recruited on SS and VW, but really, why not have her be playable in those? She's clearly with you in them, esp. in VW, and it'd give a special recruit for them!
Just a punch in the gut. The same way how you don't get Rodrigue in AM but Gilbert, yikes. Or also not getting Randolph's sister Fleche after gis death, I mean come on she "joined" the army in Azure Moon but doesn't in CF. Seems like bs to me.
@@hoshueyeplopper4465 i get the impression fleche only appeared in CF because it would be a plot hole if she did not. she was designed for AM only, and was hastily put in CF when they realized she would have to make an appearance. it could have been a simple "let me fight in the honor of my brother". also, her design makes me feel she would have been a natural fit for the pegasus knight class. ingrid is the only playable unit to canonically be that class, so having an empire affiliated pegasus knight would be nice (ingrid can join on CF, but i feel like she is one of the units with the least amount of reasons to oppose her homeland)
@@Underworlder5 It's a shame we got only one new character after time skip in only half the routes. Gilbert in AM and albeit not at launch Jeritza in CF. Why no Judith in VW?
What about that dark mage guy in the supplies burning chapter in Radiant Dawn? He hates the senators, is honorable, isn't racist, and apparently a tactical genius.
Yknow it says alot about an enemy in the Tellius games when they aren't racist, despite being from a very racist country If the Holy Knights/Sanaki had entered the war before encountering him, I could def see him choosing to join the Laguz Allience
Ishtore or Liza would have been really cool, but to have a Hannibal-type recruit with bolting...... that's cruel lol. Uhai was my first thought. I don't think there's a promoted bow knight recruit in the series so he would have been even more unique.
Mustafa was a clear choice here for FE13, it feels weird that he was not chosen, he was the only one I was 100% sure would be in the video when I started watching... Also, I'd love to have Randolph in FE16, at least in the Crimson Flower route
@@lestatcanada i would not say textbook, but he does have some qualities, namely being a sympathetic antagonist you cannot recruit. still, i would not include him in that list, since his "loyalty" comes from blackmail, and he only appears in one chapter. most camuses (camusi?) only oppose you because of loyalty to their position, or in the case of the reed brothers, because of a misunderstanding
@@lestatcanada He's a noble and honorable general who doesn't wish to harm you but holds true to his nation because of loyalty to his nation and his men. The only Camus element he's missing is the fact that he's not a pretty boy caviler.
I always wanted Zola to be recruitable. My idea for Zola recruitment would probably be that instead of Garon killing him in the opera house before the chapter starts, Zola just narrowly dodges Garon's attack, but he is still heavily wounded. The chapter starts him as an ally and surrounded by enemies: the idea being that you have to use rescue or find some way to get him out of there quick before the enemies all completely wreck him. Sure, Zola is an evil guy, but now that he has nowhere left to go, Corrin sees this as an opportunity to change someone's life around and recruits him into the army. As far as gameplay goes, it would give birthright players one dark mage to use for nosferatu (though I think you need to visit a conquest castle online to even get dark magic in birthright) and to have another Nohr class in their army. Zola's personal skill could have something to do with the wound he got from Garon, like maybe he has some kind of fury skill that makes him do alot of damage at the cost of recoil. I dont think there's any playable dark mages in birthright outside of making corrin one, so Zola would certainly be unique. I always loved Zola for some reason and would have 100% married him in birthright.
Honestly, I think that if you made Aias recruitable, you should do the same with Beran. Since Aias only appears on Eirika Route, Beran could be his Ephraim Route counterpart. Beran is a Ranger who serves under Valter in a defense map, making him a counterpart to Aias in more ways than one. If he survives the map, he flees with a boat to avoid being killed by Valter for his failure. He could then join on the ghost ship map right after as a green unit, where he could be recruited. Being a Ranger, he would greatly help against the Gargoyles on that map.
The discussion on this topic for engage would be suuuper interesting. /s I'm pretty sure the options are limited to Abyme (chapter 4 then the later boat map), Nelucce (chapter 5, is in two animated cutscenes for no reason), or Marni (lol).
all of them were really devoted to their cause. They would've been great recruits (in fact, I think they all should have been) on their own routes, but not on other ones.
@@Erikk_is_Tired Imagine if he joined in the same way as some postgame Fe6 characters (Zephiel, Guinivere, Hector, etc) wich you get by beating the main game a certain amount of times, so the nerfs would'nt be necesary because you have already beaten the main game.
Fargus or one of the Reed brothers, have the unit that defeated the other brother or Nino talk to the surviving brother, I feel like Lloyd would have listened to them since he doesn't attack Nino after she talks to him but Linus might be tricky
Honestly let him join the second to final chapter when Nils joins up with your group on Dread Isle cause why the hell are you leaving this defenseless kid on his own. Anyway his reasons being he's seen enough of the courage on these whelps including Nils, and thinks it's time to help the world or die trying cause Nergal is literally gonna destroy everything.
For PoR, besides Petrine, I'd choose that greenhaired guy from Naesala chapter who Stefan has a boss convo with. It would be really interesting to hear more about his backstory, besides just the 'I learned the sword from my father' thing
12:10 In this game, I would probably place all of the original and sympathetic Black Fang members under the Camus umbrella, and choose Eagler (Lyn mode, Ch. 9) as the recruitable character.
Great video Ghast! I don't really have a list of my own since I've only finished Awakening, Shadows of Valentia and Three Houses (VW, SS, AM) and am currently on my first playthrough of sacred stones. Though with the information about the other games I have from your videos, I think you made some great picks!
Some of my thoughts: FE2/15 - Are we considering Fernand a Camus? I'd rather get him. Yeah Alm's route already has 4 cavs at that point but eh. FE4 - You can already make Arion green in the final chapter of FE4 so making him blue would be extremely easy. FE10 - I was hoping it would be Kezhda. His unique model looks neat. Genuinely would love to get him as GHB for a RD Gallia banner (Giffca, Lyre, Kyza, Skrimir).
For 3 houses, Jeralt so there’ll be a reason for his ability to gain support points, as well as being a Jaegen to have during the early game when it’ll be most valuable like ch2
Obviously the recruit for Three houses should have been Ladislava in Crimson Flower. Oh wait, she was a cut character, because that's the budget route. More seriously, though I thought Gwendal would have been interesting. He has history with some of the characters, like Sylvain and Ingrid and seems like a decent guy. He also doesn't seem that happy fighting for the empire when his house switches sides, but does it anyway, showing he could go to either side.
I agree that Gwendal would have been interesting but the game explicitly said that Gwedal was 100% loyal to his master and that it was impossible to reason with him.
@@zimonzieclown1633 i feel like randolph and fleche were designed for AM only, then sloppily placed on other routes. ladislava was just "hey, she is an enemy on non-empire routes, so let us just have her as a quick ally on the empire route". i do wonder how CF would turn out had it not been so rushed
This was SUCH a fun video concept and I wound up learning a lot about a series I thought I knew like the back of my hand! Kezhda in particular caught my interest, given his unique design - having a black cat would've been fun to round out the other colors, even if I agree with Cat Laguz's relative uselessness. I'm also onboard with Ishtor and Pheros too - what gems. I definitely would've wanted Selena from Sacred Stones though. Great design, sympathetic plight, plenty o' power. Thanks for making this, Ghast :)
If Havetti becomes recruitable in PoR, I'd want him to be able to recruit Nedata so that we can have sea shanty songs bing sung in supports or something.
Interesting idea and great video though the lack of Gheb was sad, you could have one of the ladies or maybe just Tana recruit him in the same fashion as with Rafiel and Oliver.
I think it would be cool if you could still recruit other students post time skip in Three Houses (so all students that could be recuited pre time skip along with Ashe in Verdant Wind, Lysithea in Crimson Flower, and Lorenz in Azure Moon and Silver Snow)
It might sound crazy, but I've actually theorized a way for Sonia in FE7 to be recruitable. Sonia believes she's human, but finds out just before her death that she's actually a morph. My idea is that she would barely escape, and then some time later Eliwood and co. would find her fighting off other morphs. They ultimately decide to save her, and she decides to join them in rebellion against Nergal for deceiving her. Nergal could control her and force her back against her new allies, but he finds this turn of events amusing and instead allows her to fight with them so he can witness what his creation is capable of. It would make for a playable morph, which I think would be really interesting, and she doesn't already appear in Light so there'd be nothing to change there. She could even have some special quotes with Brendan, Lloyd, and Linus.
Here are the characters I would recruit in each game: fe1/fe11 - I can't think of antagonists that I feel should be recruited, so I choose Nyna fe2/fe15 - Berkut fe3/fe12 - Clarisse fe4 - Arione fe5 - Reinhardt fe6 - Galle fe7 - Lloyd/Linus fe8 - Glen fe9 - Homasa fe10 - Zelgius or Dheginsea fe13 - Yen'Fay fe14 - Kilma fe16 - Death Knight
Fe 1 Nyna Fe 2 Albein A. Rudolf I Fe 3 Hardin (he deserves more love) Fe 4 Julius ans Ishtar Fe 5 Reinhardt Fe 6 Idunn/Jahn/Zephiel/Narcian/Galle/Murdock/Brunya Fe 7 Nergald/Uhai/Reed Family/Darin/Ephidel/Fire Dragon (post game only) : because it's not Jahn we know nothing about them Fe 8 Lyon/Vigarde/Grado Generals Fe 9 Bryce/Petrine/Ashnard (but this time it's canon) Fe 10 Deghinsea/Zelgius/Levail/Yune/Hetzel Fe 11 Cornelius Fe 12 Eremya Fe 13 Mustafa and Pheros Fe 14 Kilma/Zola/All major bosses Fe 15 Berkut/Fernand/Rinea/Slayde Fe 16 Roderigue/Judith/Randolphe/Ladislava/Fleche/Rhea/Sothis/Jeralt/Aelfric/Gatekeeper Fe Warriors Darios/Yelena/Oskar Fe Heroes Fafnir and Thorr TMS X FE Yutsafa/Gangrel/Aversa/Pheros/Gharnef/King
For me it would be either Berkut from Gaiden/Echoes or Lloyd or Linus from Blazing Sword (depending on who you killed first). Berkut (being saved after meeting special conditions and heal his corruption) could have interesting supports majorly dealing with his grief and guilt over sacrificing Rinea, possibly finding closure that doesn't nececssarily need to happen through a new romance. He even could have special dialogue when facing Duma. While not being able to kill him, he was corrupted by his power and definitley would have unfinished business with him. While the deaths of Lloyd and Linus are well executed and understandable, especially if you face the second brother, it always bothered me that you never got to play more members of the Black Fang aside from Nino and Jaffar.
Honestly I expected Catalena to be in the Radiant Dawn spot despite her "weak" personality and (would be) awful join time. I just think she's neat. Kezhda's also a good choice though, so good job Ghast.
I mean in RD Ike fights him only as a show of respect and test of his father's teaching, same goes for Zelgius, so it wouldn't be too farfetched that after they fought Ike orders Mist or any other healer like Rhys and Elincia, or even Michaiah to heal him and he joins as one of the most broken generals in the game
Surprised by the PoR choice. I was thinking Homasa. He would not be the most unique unit, given you have Ike, Zikark, and possibly Stefan if you know how to get him, but when I first played through the game I thought he might be recruitable. The way I would have him be recruited is to have Naesala retreat after talking with Reyson. Afterwards he would need to be defeated by Ike or Stefan. He mentions in his Ike conversation that he is fighting the way his father taught him, the same as Ike, which I think could lead to Ike showing mercy. With Stefan, he mentions that Homasa is no match for him and this enrages Homasa. I could see Stefan defeating him but not killing him, saying that although he is not strong yet, he sees potential in him. He would probably support with the different swordsmen in the group as he wants to improve, as well as Jill as she also defected, and a laguz, maybe Lethe or one of the hawks. He would not stand out much from the rest of the pack, but I can easily see a way for him to be recruited.
Recruitable Homasa wold also give the player a second Sonic Sword to work with, which would be really nice considering you only get, like, 2 magic swords in the entire game.
I would actually make a case for Zola, at least in Birthright Normally he betrays you, but he actually wants to bring Corrin back to Nohr, and asks Garon to spare them, showing he had a soft spot for them. I would make him simply be playable after he's captured in story, but then you'd have to get a certain support level for him to survive. Either the scenario changes so that he's not the one to sell you out, or he just gets lucky with the power of friendship. Whatever the case, I would have that replace Kaze's conditonal survival because that never made sense to me in the slightest.
me, a gangrel fan: laughs triumphantly that being said, i think it's a shame that they shoved so much good character development into an endgame recruit. his interactions with validar alone would have been glorious if he was recruited earlier.
@@princeapoopoo5787 it's just that while I like Gangrel as an enemy, given what happened to Emeryn the idea of him joining the army really breaks my suspension of disbelief. I feel like it'd be the kind of thing Chrom would be super not ok with
@@The_Evening_Sun Yeah, that's why I consider the Spotpass recruitments canon-adjacent. It's similar to things in Heroes- technically content with them is from the company, so they are official, but I don't think they happen in the canon story of Awakening.
Kind of a weird pick and it probably wouldn’t make total sense… but I think having Naesala join you in Path of Radiance during Chapter 19. He could tell his troops to leave but stick around to keep an eye on Reyson, sticking around afterward for the same reason. Granted I can think of many reasons why Naesala wouldn’t stick with the army, but still, I think it would be pretty cool
For Engage I'd absolutely say Abyme! She even reappears as a boss again, reclassed after her previous defeat. When I saw that she had come back I was sure there would be a way to recruit her
I think we can all agree that Batta The Beast deserved the blue treatment more than any other character out there in FE7. Early game brigand with high attack growth and potential to go berserker as early as chapter 16? Move over Hector, let the real axe unit take the spotlight.
23:09 I don't know about Pallardo being a good dude to recruit lol. Three Houses doesn't really have any characters for this slot as most bosses are either faceless mooks or they're super dedicated to their liege lords with characters like Judith, Rodrigue, Ladislava, and Randolph all basically being Camus style characters in their own way. Honestly, I feel like Indech might be the best choice. That is, if they rolled back on his "No longer able to take a human form" limitation.
I agree with Indech. Plus, it kinda bothers me that the beast/dragon transformations in 3H are all virtually irreversible, save for maybe two of them (even though they all revert when they die). Having Manaketes and other characters with beast forms be playable units throughout a good portion of the series, only to have them be relegated to enemies or npcs in 3H makes me severely disappointed. Plus, there's not really many "playable badass" moments in 3H, either. I would have loved to see a section where you could play as a beast/dragon, and absolutely wreck the enemy units (or turn an unfair fight against high-level enemies into a fairer one). I love 3H, but the previous games before it like Awakening make me feel a bit better as a player, in my opinion.
One that came to mind for me is Erik from FE7. Erik is Eliwoods childhood friend, although Erik was always jealous of him. In the chapter where you fight him, Erik learns that he was sent to battle as a distraction just so his father could get away. Erik survives, but his circumstances just make sense for recruiting him, since he might have a change of heart and realise that Eliwood simply wants the best for him. In terms of gameplay, Erik is another Cavalier in a game with so many Cavaliers/Paladins, although by that point the only ones you have are Lowen and Marcus. Because of how good Paladins are in FE7, he may still be a useful unit in the army. He also has very high weapon rank for that point in the game, being able to use the silver lance as a cavalier. His recruitment is still consistent with FE6, as he appears as a boss there, but in that game he simply betrayed Lycia out of fear of Bern.
22:55 I mean yeah, she is just really horrendous on bases and level for where she comes in. Though I always find that Witch's Mark (Witch class) really helps her get a quick start if you save it for her. Also the Witch class outfit really suits her. Due to her Dark Magics but also for me the fact that the witch hat works perfectly for her, unlike most units.
Damn I never think of Aias. He seems to be a good recruitable. And a great knight that I seldom promote my cav/knight into. Selena is FE8's Camus, and I think if she knows of Vigarde's fate, the amount of convincing it takes to recruit her should be less than Brunya. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Selena cares about the people more than Brunya, therefore she has more reasons to change side (because she trusts Duessel and not necessarily Ephraim).
Fire emblem awakening Mustafa from the chapter after emmeryn dies. He was a great man who I honestly felt bad for killing as I could see a timeline where he is playable and redeem himself. Joke one vaildar and let him have a conversation with Morgan as thier grandchildren would be hilarious. Honestly walhart and aversa would have been my pick if they didn't get added. Fire emblem fates EVERYONE. The capture units are cool enough and all are nice to get but a lot more I wish we could get like flora and Felicia's dad. Suraragi mikoto arete etc. Also it's double interesting a we kill the other side Characters yet they don't show up for the game when we side with them but can capture a few. Sacred stones and blazing sword honestly nobody comes to mind to me. Echoes Sonyas sisters and give us a way to bring them back to life as they are pretty. Other one alms dad as he shows he can have mercy so he would be same as BERKUT
@@shadexvii3975 he only had one chapter to do this and like 5 conversations which is why saying he is a Camus would be great. He would have been great especially when Henry joins later and Henry calls us out by saying all the ealry bosses had humanity giving him sweets or having dreams and families that died already too. Mustafa and him would have been great friends. I mean we have recruited worse people. Aversa walhart gangrel yen fie in awakening Fates we actually kidnapped people but honestly garon if he wasn't crazy would be Camus as he wanted his country to be saved too being a hard man.
@@shadexvii3975 I consider them more like game update units instead as they can actually interact with the main cast and get married with robin and even give a free class walhart had or the Dark magic aversa has. Dlc I see more like the amiboo and card units with lodestar prince Marth or fates robin Ike Martha and Lucina as you need to pay for these ones instead while the awakening crew is free. Still glad they added them as awakening was gonna be the last game and letting people have Anna the bad guys and even Marth and an Ike clone was brilliant.
For Echoes, it would detract from the hopelessness (although it's not really addressed, only alluded to after the fact) but it would have been awesome if Marla and Hestia could have been captured and un-brainwashed like Celica. Then, to see a happy reunion with Sonya in the post-game would have been so heartwarming.
I would say Conquest Zola deserved a chance to live. He really was just doing what he thought would end the war quickly but gets killed because the Nohrian Royals are like "muh honor"
Strange Answer. FE:TH - Kronya. She'd be a fascinating character to have on the team, being the only Agarthan PC, and considering she murdered Jeralt. Recruited after being abandoned by Solon, her character arc would revolve around everyone distrusting her, and her cynical world view. After all, this is how she was raised, that the weak need to be strong to be worthy. This old man, Jeralt, was weak so if he was worthy, he should have better defended himself. She'd be used on particularly nasty missions during the war. Eventually she'd learn to empathise with others and in her A support with Byleth, she'll have stolen and read Jeralt's diary, learn that he was a good wholesome person with no backstabbing agenda. He selflessly cared about his child, and Kronya learns that it's not all a zero-sum game. She apologies to Byleth for her actions 5 years ago. Supports with Edelgard, Hubert, Lysithea, Linhardt, Flayn, Alois, and Seteth.
@@ClaudevonRiegan_ Absolutely understandable. And Alois and Seteth would absolutely share similar sentiments. The students would be hostile at best. A big part of her story is that even growing up in a toxic "winner-take-all" environment, she still chose to do that. She can't change the past, but she can make up for it, fighting for what Jeralt believed in, in his stead.
Clarrise would have been awesome for new mystery. My idea is in the paralogue you would battle her, if you have Kris beat her. She decides to retreat after he explains the whole situation of whats going on. Then during the paralogue where you fight Eremayah she shows up mid way through and you could recruit her with Katarina. After understanding the full picture of whats going on, and seeing the changed Katarina working with marth being the final drive to push her to the other side.
Bloom's children are both good kids and in a perfect world you could recruit them both. Yes to recruiting Uhai. He'd be a good unit to have if you want a mounted archer before you have access to Rath, especially in Dragon's Gate where you have to cut your way through the crowds to get the Member Card and recruit Legault. For FE9...does Bryce count as minor, or a Camus? Because I liked his battle convo with Ike a lot. Disregard my original comment about Mustafa, he's a Camus. I always did find Pheros a bit interesting from what little we saw of her, I'd be down with her as a SpotPass recruit. Kilma, huh...father and daughter supports, then? Nice. Pallardo? Well, him getting supports would mean 3H would have to finally give us some damn Anna supports. (Seriously, WHY?!) I would've personally gone with Lonato solely because Ashe deserves nice things.
I was just playing sacred stones, and fought aias for the first time, after killing him and hearing his quote i just thought "yeah, if you werent fighting against me rn we would definetly be allies"
@@fionavar6607 Ka-moo sounds wrong and i keep confusing it with Kamui from Echoes/Gaiden. Ka-miss sounds better imo but this is just another Deh-koo/Day-koo/Dee-koo thing so i really don’t care
Not sure this idea would count as a payable unit, but I did have an idea with Lord Lonato from three houses. In the fight if you clear the fog, it could also expose a yellow unit like a courier. If you take out the unit you get an item that unlocks a way to not kill Lonato/make it so that using Ashe to take him out won't kill. He gets captured and spared from execution by giving the item (being a letter) to Rhea can show he was mislead. While he would be notified that he was tricked, Lonato would still have some destain toward the church for the death of his son but will comply to stop the ones who used him. I think he could give some bonus green forces to aid you in harder difficulties. That would be pretty neat. This is just a random idea I wanted to put down so there's probably problems.
In regards to FEAwakening, in addition to Pheros, I'd also consider Raimi...she has a face AND a special color scheme, all signs point to her having been meant to be an ally, but cut for...reasons. She's also your second Armor unit, as FE armors tend to travel in pairs, and, as a Feroxi, could shed more light on said place's culture and such.
I know it’s a little meme-ey, but Batta from fe7 would be kinda cool. Lyn could recruit him during the tutorial, maybe he begs her to join after seeing his one other man get killed and seeing that Lyn has him on the ropes. He would be the only brigand in fe7 (and might have connections to the brigand recruitable character in fe6 just to be cute), he wouldn’t be that amazing of a unit having decent strength, defense, and luck. But maybe mediocre speed and res. He could also have this cool character arc, starting off as a brigand in Lyn’s army who acts pretty full of himself, but over time, and through supports, kind of realizes just how shitty of a person he was for promoting and actively reveling in brigandry. I thought it was a fun idea lol
I’m genuinely surprised he didn’t say Ruemay from Chapter 8 in Thracia. The guy clearly isn’t fighting cause he wants to and I think an early game dracoknight wouldnt be too broken given having another flier in chapter 9 would be immensely helpful. Plus in order to reach 8x you have to save Ruemay anyways
I would love Pallardò specifically because his Crit quotes are some of the best. Highlighted by his give no damns attitude. “I’ll take your money AND your life.” “What did you expect from a bandit?”
For every game I've finished: FE4 Gen 1: Clement - The Duke of Mackily is one of the few Agustrian lords to tries to stay out of the conflict with Grannvale. It is only upon Anphony's defeat and concern of a total invasion arises that he decides to set up ballistae and readies his Sleep staff. I could see maybe letting Lachesis, Edain, or Deirdre speak with him to inform him that Sigurd's only intention is to help the people of Agustria and free Eldigan. Mackily would then become an allied castle for the rest of the chapter, and Clement would join Sigurd to dethrone Chagall at the start of the map. FE4 Gen 2: Arion - Arion joining as an allied unit at the end of the game will never not feel a tad odd to me. Not much else to say. FE4 Overall: Just more recruitable Arena enemies would've been cool. FE6: Stater - If Galle is not an option, then I'd go with Slater, the Bernese knight assigned to Castle Araphen by Narcian. He seems genuinely terrified of what Narcian would do to him if he were to fail. Being able to convince him to abandon Bern with Elen could be an interesting addition, and a convo between him and Narcian in Ch 16 would be great. (I mulled over a parallel for Sigune in Sacae, but all the bosses are either Djutes firmly aligned with Bern [and against Kutolah] or Kel, who is devoted to Brunnya.) FE7: Teodor - A bit of an odd pick, but I really wasn't feeling like saying Uhai or Erik. He's a member of the Black Fang, known as the Shadow Hawk. He is heavily invested in the study of dark magic, willing to push himself to the same extremes as Brammimond and Nergal. I could see him being recruited by Canas, convincing him to not throw away his years of studying the dark arts, and that the two of them could help each other grow as Druids. Of course, balancewise, this is awful, since you just got Canas and can now replace him with no investment, but since when has FE cared much with that? FE9: Tomenami - A bit of a copout answer, but I definitely think you should have recruited him by keeping at least 10 of the Clerics alive. As a more interesting answer, Seeker, the Raven from Chapter 12. He is merely a thief. Maybe Sothe could talk to him, say that there's plenty of better things to steal in their destination of Begnion or something. Anything to get an actual playable Raven. FE11: Yeah I really have no idea besides Orridyon. I was thinking Sternlin, a member of the Sable Order, with Marth being able to convince him, and possibly giving the player false hope in being able to recruit Camus. But the man is uncertain on Camus himself, and seems to be very patriotic. FE13: Cervantes - Are you not enamored by this man's magnificent mustache? ...That's what I thought. Cervantes is just a joy who absolutely should've been a Spotpass character. He probably survived a lethal blow, saw it as yet another blessing of his whiskers, realized Walhart fell, and went off to find another powerful man to follow. Chrom would end up defeating whoever that someone happened to be, and Cervantes would just be like "Well, you've toppled two of the greatest men alive. Perhaps it is you who will rule this world?" FE14 Birthright: Zola - Birthright is the only route where this mischievous mage really shines, and is attempted to be shown as a pitiable man torn between loyalty to a country he has been banished from or to the people who already gave him a second chance. Except the game does this awfully. He should have been made playable from Chapter 10, then either a) betray you in Cyrkensia, not get killed, then re-recruited by Takumi or b) not betray you when Corrin/Takumi have a C support with him. FE14 Conquest: Kilma - Don't have anything to add. FE14 Revelation: Anthony - Hear me out: *playable Faceless*. FE14 Overall: Just give Captureables supports. FE15: Xaizor - Again, nothing to add. No real options for Celica's side, and the only other Alm side character I could kinda see is Magnus. FE16 Crimson Flower: Metodey - It's simple: don't kill him in Chapter 11, and he should be usable in Chapter 12. FE16 Azure Moon: Gwendal - Upon seeing Dimitri with his own eyes, I'd expect him to find new motivation to stay alive. If need be, Ingrid (or Yuri) could have a recruit convo, reminding him of the importance of a knight's devotion to their king. FE16 Verdant Wind: Pallardo - Nothing to add. Your reasoning for Claude to hire him makes a lot of sense.
15:30 I'd argue Nedata would be a better option. He just appears out of nowhere in Ch. 9 so I always thought he was going to be recruitable. All the pros that apply to Havetti would go to Nedata too.
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Omozu deserved to be capture why intelligent system to make him show up in the dlc but not capturable like the other's
For Three Houses, I'd say Randolph or Gwendal should have been the recruitable ones. Gwendal would be easy enough in Azure Moon if he could be convinced to prioritize loyalty to the King over loyalty to House Rowe, OR we could just promise him really good fights to come. Randolph would be harder, but I think if Caspar defeated him, something could be wrangled in all non-AM routes.
Garon from Fates. I know it seems weird but i want to get to know how he was because of the dialog with the children of Nohr and if it only can happen if you marry him then so be it.
Mustafa deserves more screen time, such an overlooked character that most people do not pay attention to, especially the developers.
Mustafa from awakening. He's a good man who was at the wrong place at the wrong time. I mean he treated his soldiers kindly too. He would've been a great unit too being the only canonical beserker as well.
He was the only Plegian boss that I would have wanted to survive. I would take him over Gangrel any day.
I definitely agree. Maybe if there was an option to spare him in his own chapter, and he would reflect on the cruel deeds of Gangrel and join chrom and co shortly after the battle with gangrel (or during that chapter) for showing the same kind of honor that he believed in.
@@Yarharsuperpirate As much as that might be possible, he states that if he joins the Shepherds, Gangrel would kill his family to set an example.
And as much as any enemy general has personal honor, they would do most services where their loved ones are in peril.
@@ResurgentRaven Which is why I said he could show up sometime after the battle with Gangrel if there was an option to spare him
@@Yarharsuperpirate You're right, my bad. Didn't notice the "after the battle with Gangrel'' part.
Havetti is good because he threw Makalov into the ocean
we stan havetti in this household 👏
He isn't good enough because he didn't murder the man.
What bout the pirate from chapter 9. I always wondered bout him and thought he was originally intended to be recruitable.
@@ericjones1399 yesss let me recruit the yar-har-ho man
I would honestly want Selena from Sacred Stones to be recruitable. I know that she is the Camus archetype of that game but out of all of Camus’ I feel like Selena is the one who has the most traitorous thoughts out of all of them.
First time i played sacred stones i tried to talk to her with every single character just to see if it was possible
I think if Selena knows about Vigarde's fate, she may join Duessel. She may be easier to recruit than Brunnya.
But most traitorous thoughts? She thinks like a stereotypical Camus. She cares about her monarch (who is dead the whole time) and the people.
Can't betray your monarch if he's dead!
Follow up question, who would you then put as a bonus character in the creature campaign?
@@starseeker3002 after a bit of thinking...Vigarde.
And then make Fado a GK.
@@franciscodetonne4797 Maybe traitorous thoughts is the wrong phrase but like she has the most doubts of the path she chooses
>"pick one enemy character from each FE game"
Oh easy, I think I'm gonna go with Camus
>"that isn't a Camus"
Well, shit...
Xaizor joining Alm could also be a neat way of foreshadowing the twist about Rudolf, since he's loyal to him.
Roro/Legion could instead be one of the brothers that survived getting wiped out with the rest, and joins you to try and find and become himself.
Petrine. No questions asked. Have her as a foil to both Titania and Soren.
Also the fact that she's a branded in a country known for its racism, and yet still has a position as a General and openly displays that brand because Ashnard's rule lets her have that position. especially when literally everyone (Laguz/Beorc alike) hate the branded.
I think Petrine is the Camus of Path of Radiance, so that's why Ghast didn't use her.
@@vel0xraperio Wouldn't that be Bryce though?
@@aiguels5518 Yes, Bryce is the one who's ultra loyal to Ashnard purely because he's the last of Daein's royal bloodline. Even though he knows Ashnard killed the rest including his father.
Nah, I think someone like Homasa, Hafed, or Kimaarsi would be better recruitable minor bosses. None of them seem like particularly bad people and have potentially believable reasons to defect.
I would consider Zola from Fates as an option. He really gets a raw deal in all 3 routes. Both Conquest and Revelation he gets killed by Leo, and in Birthright he gets killed by Garon *right in front of Elise.* He really can't catch a break.
To be fair, is there a reasonable way for him to join in Conquest or Rev? His role in Birthright doesn't work as well if he doesn't die.
Oh yeah, Zola. He's slimy and whiny but I never found him THAT bad. Definitely not as "oh my god why can't we kill him already" as Hans or Iago.
Had Zola succeeded he would've ended the war extremely early, honestly if the end were to ever justify the means then it would be this time, also he acted very loyal to both Corrine and garron right before he died
Honestly Zola in Birthright would've been great
As far as I'm aware, FE never really had a mole who was still secretly loyal to the enemy nation but ends up betraying them simply because the players army was willing to show kindness
It would have made the story slightly better imo.
For FE16, Dimitri (specifically in VW). I would do this by adding Dimitri to the fight against Edelgard next to Dedue, and the two joining (with weakened growths) if both of them survive & the enemies on the corner they start off on die.
I would love that as I Imagine a route where Claude And Dimitri are teamed up
@@ClaudevonRiegan_ Also it would finally give us all the crest bearers vs the 10 Elites
@@thunderknight4149 "is this some kind of twisted joke?!?"
-dimitri when his ancestor has a horse
Reasons to make Sigune recruitable: her design is top tier and she can kick ass
If you really want to playable sigune there's a rom hack called sword of heaven and earth where she's recruitable
I was not expecting this one to be so long. Consider me surprised!
To contribute the topic: In Mystery of the Emblem, I guess more or less everyone from Eremiya's assassin gang could be made recruitable (sans Eremiya herself) given their tragic and depressing circumstances, which has a ton of support potential.
Edit: Also Pheros' idea is pretty good! There also aren't that many playable units fit for the Valkyrie class besides Maribelle, so having another option would be pretty neat.
I like that idea, maybe for Clarrise, have her defect if beaten by Kris. Who then explains the actual situation of whats going on and how they are working on saving Katarina from this horrible situation as well.
Eremiya herself was also mind controlled by Garnef, and it's only revealed as she's bleeding to death, at which point she regrets everything she's been doing.
Lissa and Miriel should go Valkyrie I get that tge meme is war cleric but it’s a bad class in my opinion for them
Man Legion is sick as hell and I just remembered how disappointed I was when he just left the game half way through
FE16: Lonato pleeeeeease. Give Ashe his dad back. And he would have a very awkward support with Catherine.
But he’s a Camus
And on top of that rhea and catherine are out for blood. Rhea would instantly turn on you if you do that.
Which is all the more reason to do so
I always thought that a Camus typically fought against the protagonist out of loyalty to their country. Lonato joined the church rebels because he wanted revenge for his son's execution. He doesn't really answer to a higher lord or king despite being in the kingdom. If anything, he betrays the other kingdom lords by trying to rebel against the Church of Seiros. His personality traits fit in with other Camus though, so there is that.
@@starseeker3002 Yeah, I realized in that mission, before you even have a choice, you are being the bad guy or at least acting on their behalf. I can't actually think of a practical way to keep Lonato alive because Rhea and Catherine will find out. Maybe have Ashe spare him and he comes back in part 2 only in CF? Though that means no Catherine Lonato redemption arc lol
I was thinking Kronya. Had a support built up even.
It tackles the true nature of the Agarthans, and Solon & Thales. The two would sacrifice anyone for their vengeance.
I'd love to see Seeker form POR be recruitable. Main reason is that Neasala is the only playable raven in the game and it would be cool to get another at that point.
He'd be very helpful in the following chapter, the desert one, and the large 4 part one too
Plus there's borderline zero named enemy laguz, in EITHER Tellius game
I'm pretty sure it's just Seeker and a super obscure cat boss in RD
Fargus, he would join you near the end of the game among with Nils with two conditions:
1-Dart is alive and has at least one support space left.
2-The combined level of your lords is 75 or higher.
For the Dart condition before going to battle, he will tell him something, as soon as starting the chapter you can support them, the support chain will basically go about how they met, in the A support he will reveal Dart that his name is not Dart and revealing somewhat of the truth I guess.
The lords condition is simple, Fargus’s bases will be very high, for that, your lords have to be strong enough, he will recognize their strength and growth joining them, of course you have to train your lords (idk, promoting the three at lvl 20 and when promoted the three are at least lvl5), your reward is the unit with strongest bases in the game.
Rebecca will be happy to meet her brother finally
In my eyes, it would make more sense if the condition wasn't dart being alive, but rather dart being defeated in "the port of badon". Fargus joins the lords at the end and the mission of telling everyone in case they don't return goes to dart instead.
@@lpfan4491 so we trade the only Pirate and possibly one of the best Axe users in the game for the most Chad pre-promote in the game? Fair deal
I understand choosing Pheros for Awakening, but a great alternative would be Mustafa. it could be done by visiting one of the villages in an earlier chapter, causing his family and the other villagers to become refugees and go to Ylisse, meaning Gangrel doesnt have leverage anymore. Maybe even make him recruitable by Robin instead of Chrom, which would be pretty unique
Definitely Selena from Sacred Stones (Best Selena) she really needed redemption by joining forces with Ephraim and Eirika, seeing Duesell and Cormag would've been enough to convince her that she was on the wrong side
I believe that if Eirika was there instead of Ephraim she would been able to convince Selena to join them.
@@GenZComicReviewer It would have been a sadder one of us has to die moments
Selena is a camus sadly :/
I would have say Carlyle personally
@@gabrielclamens3151 agreed. He would be a great option if none of the 2 myrmidons work out. Have him talk to Joshua and beat him after and seize.
Late, but I would
choose Novala.
Haven't even watched yet, but Mustafa.
Please, let him be saved.
Nope, he is betrayed by Faerghast
I feel the same way.
I agree with this
No Camus, sadly
Seriously, Chrom, and Robin, y'all could have given the man and his troops asylum in Yllise.
I was hoping to see Sigune on this list, and I wasn't disappointed.
What wasn't mentioned with her is that Roy's army is approaching under the name of the *Etrurian Army*.
So when Sigune is talking with her subordinate, she's under the assumption that it's just Etruria coming to conquer them, and that they're no different from Bern.
Which is made so much worse when you remember what Etruria was doing to the people of the Western Isles, and Roartz/Arcard's corruption.
I would also add Zelot to the list of people who could defeat and recruit her. Not only is Sigune supposed to be Juno's best friend/rival, and Zelot should be more inclined to spare her, but Zelot originally met Juno as a hired enemy before he got to know and marry her.
Then on top of that, Zelot is the one who's responsible for rebuilding, reviving, and becoming Ilia's first king in his ending. Not only does he have experience keeping enemy Ilian mercenaries alive, but he cares the most about Ilia itself, so I've always had the headcanon that him defeating her has her survive. Same for any of the generic pegasus/falco knights you face throughout the game.
Would've gone with Veyona for the Radiant Dawn pick. That way you'd have a dark magic user who doesn't require a second playthrough of the game to get. Plus he clearly resents working for the Begnion senators and being stuck at a supply outpost.
That's a great pick
Ay Zeros Escape pfp
And unlike the rest of the faction, he refers to the Laguz as the Laguz, implying he isn't racist towards them.
For 3H, I'd go the Oliver route, and have Acheron recruit himself if you defeat the Imperial Generals before him. Changing sides at the drop of a hat to save his own skin is a very Acheron move.
I couldn't be more delighted that Pheros made it on the list. I've always loved her design and felt like she deserved at least another chapter or two of characterization.
Cervantes from Awakening. His mustache is so cool.
…Yes, that is my only justification.
Not so much as “make them recruitable” but more of a “flesh out their character to be more interesting” would be Candace from Fates. She is super super cute and I wish there was more to her than just being an adventurer who is fat.
I thought about Nichol when I saw the video, and I think he would be an exceedingly interesting character. Both Nichol and Candace seem to have been intended as playable characters, as they actually have cut-ins, which none of the other generic or capturable units have.
@@AzureGreatheart I think a text dump shows those two characters' names next to characters who can only support Corrin, including Rinkah who wasn't left with that limitation. Furthermore, Candace works darn well if reclassed to something other than Adventurer, showing IS cared more about her needing varying outfits rather than staying with her own one... or they were strapped for time.
I always assumed Nichol was originally Beruka's master that was important to Oboro's backstory, but they chose to scrap him later on.
@@AzureGreatheart Recruiting him even kind of makes sense from a narrative perspective since he has a moment of reflection where he realizes he was wrong after you defeat him.
The pre-battle dialogue between the swordmaster boss and Stefan in PoR could easily double as a recruitment conversation. The boss wants to fight Stefan using the techniques taught to him by his father. Stefan tells him nah git gud lmao, and this is enough to incense him to join your army in the hopes of surpassing Stefan.
Similar to Raven's recruitment, where he only joins the party because Hector is present
@@regalblade8171 The recruitment talk between Raven and Lucius mentions something about eventually backstabbing Hector, right? What if there would be a condition where at some point in Hector Mode, Raven would defect from the party and attack him if he didn't Support either one of Priscilla or Lucius? It would fit right in, and it could be a very rare moment where a character death wouldn't be a game-over condition, with the explanation of Clerics needing a moment with him to recover wounds.
Imagine not picking the most goated man alive, Cervantes
More like goateed, amirite?
Thank you for speaking the truth
Ruud would like to challenge that claim
All you guys be forgetting Gheb. Would be a good deal: lose amelia by giving him permission to torture her, get a good unit. And after the war, the player army just jails him for his crimes. Easy.
@@lpfan4491
>Gheb
>good unit
Pick one
Concidering New Mystery made Michalis recruitable, who knows, maybe some of these characters will actually be recruitable if their games ever get a remake.
One can only hope. Recruitable Gale when?
I wonder, if oliver wasnt recruitable in RD would Ghast propose Oliver be recruitable in PoR?
I mean it would be easy, although Ike would be fed up by his constant blabbering not even 4 seconds after he gets recruited
@@regalblade8171 He'd have a support with Ike that basically is Oliver trying to make him see true beauty wherever it is, and Ike holding back from making pork chops out of him
You're implying Oliver is minor. When you're that much of a meme, you're no longer a minor character.
@@Muriuki34 I mean he asks Oliver to join the enemies back in RD, in PoR you only see Oliver while Ike is carrying Leanne with her which mean you can't skip the recruitment (just don't use Rafiel in his map in RD to not recruit him) there would have made sense for Oliver to join and to just break Ike's mind with all his rambling about beauty
Im so glad you mentioned Pheros! Shes always been such a cool minor antagonist in my opinion, and the idea you gave for her recruitment was honestly phenomenal, great stuff!!
One FE:TH character I would want to recruit is Jeralt. Like…we’re given the ability to raise bond with him and have him teach us, but he’s never recruitable. I sorta get it, given story, but it seems like it diminishes the story to not allow us to actually have him have bond conversations with MC and Alois and others. Even if we did lose him for story reasons, at least it would be more impactful because we actually bonded with him.
"one FE:TH character I would want to recruit" is such a big list though
@@goggles8691 I mean, I haven’t played most FE games. And I don’t really have any in awakening or Fates I’d want to recruit that haven’t been mentioned by others
@@cheesesnake6522 I mean, to my knowledge she only leaves in the CF route, but even so I agree he would work very well.
I agree. Jeralt would have been perfect as an optional Jagen unit who whould have been recruitable like the rest of the knights. And with the join requirements being very leniant due to him being Byleth's fater and all.
@@Yarharsuperpirate Jeralt would've been a great Jagen. He would help a fuckton on maddening and even on the other difficulties he'd still be useful because Jagen. Yes, he dies, but by then most of your units should be just as strong, if not stronger than Jeralt.
Nice list. A few choices of my own:
FE2/15 - Magnus: More for his SoV self, but he does show Alm a lot of respect as a fellow warrior. Granted, he is a Baron, but he'd probably be the best lategame one in the party, and a great potential pitchfork choice.
FE7 - Sealen: Admittedly part of this is just because it'd give us a nomad in Hector's route far earlier than Rath (or even Uhai if he was recruitable)
FE9 - Nedata: C'mon, this pirate's got his own theme and everything! Plus like with Havetti he'd be pretty unique as a playable Bandit.
FE10 - Veyona: Being the only Druid boss by default makes this guy interesting enough to want, but he also seemed to really dislike the senators he's set to protect. Probably wouldn't be too hard to get him to just switch sides. Plus he doesn't appear to really hate the Laguz like most of the Begnion minor bosses.
FE13 - Raimi: She's by far the easiest one to justify, since she's not a villain and didn't even die in her boss chapter. All they'd have to do is let her join at a higher level a bit later, possibly at the beginning of the Valm arc.
FE14 - Zola: It's a shame he died so soon after being 'recruited' in Birthright, he could've been a fun chance to see things from the other side.
FE16 - Judith: Okay, this one is kind of a cheat, esp. since she's only a boss on CF and I'd want her recruited on SS and VW, but really, why not have her be playable in those? She's clearly with you in them, esp. in VW, and it'd give a special recruit for them!
Oh hey, I forgot Raimi was a boss! She'd be awesome.
Just a punch in the gut. The same way how you don't get Rodrigue in AM but Gilbert, yikes. Or also not getting Randolph's sister Fleche after gis death, I mean come on she "joined" the army in Azure Moon but doesn't in CF. Seems like bs to me.
@@hoshueyeplopper4465 i get the impression fleche only appeared in CF because it would be a plot hole if she did not. she was designed for AM only, and was hastily put in CF when they realized she would have to make an appearance. it could have been a simple "let me fight in the honor of my brother". also, her design makes me feel she would have been a natural fit for the pegasus knight class. ingrid is the only playable unit to canonically be that class, so having an empire affiliated pegasus knight would be nice (ingrid can join on CF, but i feel like she is one of the units with the least amount of reasons to oppose her homeland)
@@Underworlder5 It's a shame we got only one new character after time skip in only half the routes. Gilbert in AM and albeit not at launch Jeritza in CF. Why no Judith in VW?
What about that dark mage guy in the supplies burning chapter in Radiant Dawn? He hates the senators, is honorable, isn't racist, and apparently a tactical genius.
Veyona?
Yknow it says alot about an enemy in the Tellius games when they aren't racist, despite being from a very racist country
If the Holy Knights/Sanaki had entered the war before encountering him, I could def see him choosing to join the Laguz Allience
Ishtore or Liza would have been really cool, but to have a Hannibal-type recruit with bolting...... that's cruel lol.
Uhai was my first thought. I don't think there's a promoted bow knight recruit in the series so he would have been even more unique.
Hayden if we allow post game units, Geoffrey if he counts, RD Astrid maybe? Not a whole lot yeah.
@@celerity910 Yeah I guess Geoffrey would count. I always forget he uses bows.
Dayan exists
Wolf, Sedgar, FE12 Beck and Robert(o): are we a joke to you?
Mustafa was a clear choice here for FE13, it feels weird that he was not chosen, he was the only one I was 100% sure would be in the video when I started watching...
Also, I'd love to have Randolph in FE16, at least in the Crimson Flower route
It's because he's literally the textbook definition of a Camus
@@Ash_Wen-li how is mustafa the textbook definition of a camus?
@@lestatcanada i would not say textbook, but he does have some qualities, namely being a sympathetic antagonist you cannot recruit. still, i would not include him in that list, since his "loyalty" comes from blackmail, and he only appears in one chapter. most camuses (camusi?) only oppose you because of loyalty to their position, or in the case of the reed brothers, because of a misunderstanding
@@lestatcanada He's a noble and honorable general who doesn't wish to harm you but holds true to his nation because of loyalty to his nation and his men. The only Camus element he's missing is the fact that he's not a pretty boy caviler.
Randolph and Ladislava God done dirty imo
Orson from sacred stones, imagine being able to bring him back from insanity, his supports would be so cool.
Haha 👎
His story was so sad...
Yeee
I mean, I feel like the series has recruited morally worse people before, but like he still betrayed his kingdom to sleep with a corpse
@@valarmis Lyon would be better
I always wanted Zola to be recruitable. My idea for Zola recruitment would probably be that instead of Garon killing him in the opera house before the chapter starts, Zola just narrowly dodges Garon's attack, but he is still heavily wounded. The chapter starts him as an ally and surrounded by enemies: the idea being that you have to use rescue or find some way to get him out of there quick before the enemies all completely wreck him. Sure, Zola is an evil guy, but now that he has nowhere left to go, Corrin sees this as an opportunity to change someone's life around and recruits him into the army. As far as gameplay goes, it would give birthright players one dark mage to use for nosferatu (though I think you need to visit a conquest castle online to even get dark magic in birthright) and to have another Nohr class in their army. Zola's personal skill could have something to do with the wound he got from Garon, like maybe he has some kind of fury skill that makes him do alot of damage at the cost of recoil. I dont think there's any playable dark mages in birthright outside of making corrin one, so Zola would certainly be unique. I always loved Zola for some reason and would have 100% married him in birthright.
Honestly, I think that if you made Aias recruitable, you should do the same with Beran. Since Aias only appears on Eirika Route, Beran could be his Ephraim Route counterpart. Beran is a Ranger who serves under Valter in a defense map, making him a counterpart to Aias in more ways than one. If he survives the map, he flees with a boat to avoid being killed by Valter for his failure. He could then join on the ghost ship map right after as a green unit, where he could be recruited. Being a Ranger, he would greatly help against the Gargoyles on that map.
The discussion on this topic for engage would be suuuper interesting. /s
I'm pretty sure the options are limited to Abyme (chapter 4 then the later boat map), Nelucce (chapter 5, is in two animated cutscenes for no reason), or Marni (lol).
Arion would be amazing, I hope that we see more of him in an FE4 remake.
this is overall very interesting, but Pallardo? over Rodrigue, Nader, Judith, Ladislava or Randolf?
all of them were really devoted to their cause. They would've been great recruits (in fact, I think they all should have been) on their own routes, but not on other ones.
Ya got Rodrigue in Three Hopes at least.
Not watched yet, but i bet Fargus from fe7 is on the list lol.
Just imagine
@@Erikk_is_Tired Imagine if he joined in the same way as some postgame Fe6 characters (Zephiel, Guinivere, Hector, etc) wich you get by beating the main game a certain amount of times, so the nerfs would'nt be necesary because you have already beaten the main game.
Fargus or one of the Reed brothers, have the unit that defeated the other brother or Nino talk to the surviving brother, I feel like Lloyd would have listened to them since he doesn't attack Nino after she talks to him but Linus might be tricky
Honestly let him join the second to final chapter when Nils joins up with your group on Dread Isle cause why the hell are you leaving this defenseless kid on his own. Anyway his reasons being he's seen enough of the courage on these whelps including Nils, and thinks it's time to help the world or die trying cause Nergal is literally gonna destroy everything.
Honestly, I thought Fargus would've been playable at a later chapter and man was I so bummed when I found out he wasn't playable
For PoR, besides Petrine, I'd choose that greenhaired guy from Naesala chapter who Stefan has a boss convo with. It would be really interesting to hear more about his backstory, besides just the 'I learned the sword from my father' thing
*Pheros exists*
Edelgard:"I like her."
now that you say it yeah she'd be a perfect fit
Pheros is just beta Edelgard
@@ojutay8375 Ironically, her original religion, name and winged manakete-style crown thingy make her resemble Seiros just as much.
Great video, I think that there are room for a second video with other bosses that could be recruitable
12:10 In this game, I would probably place all of the original and sympathetic Black Fang members under the Camus umbrella, and choose Eagler (Lyn mode, Ch. 9) as the recruitable character.
I thought Eagler could be recruitable in my blind playthrough of FE7 as I thought you needed to talk to him with either Wallace, Kent or Sain
Great video Ghast! I don't really have a list of my own since I've only finished Awakening, Shadows of Valentia and Three Houses (VW, SS, AM) and am currently on my first playthrough of sacred stones.
Though with the information about the other games I have from your videos, I think you made some great picks!
Some of my thoughts:
FE2/15 - Are we considering Fernand a Camus? I'd rather get him. Yeah Alm's route already has 4 cavs at that point but eh.
FE4 - You can already make Arion green in the final chapter of FE4 so making him blue would be extremely easy.
FE10 - I was hoping it would be Kezhda. His unique model looks neat. Genuinely would love to get him as GHB for a RD Gallia banner (Giffca, Lyre, Kyza, Skrimir).
For 3 houses, Jeralt so there’ll be a reason for his ability to gain support points, as well as being a Jaegen to have during the early game when it’ll be most valuable like ch2
Obviously the recruit for Three houses should have been Ladislava in Crimson Flower. Oh wait, she was a cut character, because that's the budget route.
More seriously, though I thought Gwendal would have been interesting. He has history with some of the characters, like Sylvain and Ingrid and seems like a decent guy. He also doesn't seem that happy fighting for the empire when his house switches sides, but does it anyway, showing he could go to either side.
I agree that Gwendal would have been interesting but the game explicitly said that Gwedal was 100% loyal to his master and that it was impossible to reason with him.
Not just Ladislava; they should have included Randolph and Fleche on CF as well and Judith and Nader on VW.
@@zimonzieclown1633 No Rodrigue or Lonato on AM but instead unlikeable Gilbert. 😔
@@zimonzieclown1633 i feel like randolph and fleche were designed for AM only, then sloppily placed on other routes. ladislava was just "hey, she is an enemy on non-empire routes, so let us just have her as a quick ally on the empire route". i do wonder how CF would turn out had it not been so rushed
@@Underworlder5 Maybe so, but I still feel they wasted a bunch of potentially interesting characters.
This was SUCH a fun video concept and I wound up learning a lot about a series I thought I knew like the back of my hand! Kezhda in particular caught my interest, given his unique design - having a black cat would've been fun to round out the other colors, even if I agree with Cat Laguz's relative uselessness. I'm also onboard with Ishtor and Pheros too - what gems. I definitely would've wanted Selena from Sacred Stones though. Great design, sympathetic plight, plenty o' power. Thanks for making this, Ghast :)
How do I recruit Batta the Beast?
Talk to him with Eliwood
Tnx now we just need to find out how to recruit Eliwood in lyn mod.
Lyn leaving the map for a few months to get eliwood.
If Havetti becomes recruitable in PoR, I'd want him to be able to recruit Nedata so that we can have sea shanty songs bing sung in supports or something.
You should do a video like this for converting one friendly npc character to a recruitable character
If that list was made then I place all of my bets on Fargus from FE7.. just have him recruitable around the final few chapters cuz god is he OP
Brunnya, Ursula, and Selena for the GBA FE games
sadly two of them are Camus
I would find more fitting recluting either lloyd or linus, and you can't reclute both so you'll have to choose
I see a pattern there.
Interesting idea and great video though the lack of Gheb was sad, you could have one of the ladies or maybe just Tana recruit him in the same fashion as with Rafiel and Oliver.
I think it would be cool if you could still recruit other students post time skip in Three Houses (so all students that could be recuited pre time skip along with Ashe in Verdant Wind, Lysithea in Crimson Flower, and Lorenz in Azure Moon and Silver Snow)
That would kinda defeat the point of recruiting them at the academy.
It might sound crazy, but I've actually theorized a way for Sonia in FE7 to be recruitable. Sonia believes she's human, but finds out just before her death that she's actually a morph. My idea is that she would barely escape, and then some time later Eliwood and co. would find her fighting off other morphs. They ultimately decide to save her, and she decides to join them in rebellion against Nergal for deceiving her. Nergal could control her and force her back against her new allies, but he finds this turn of events amusing and instead allows her to fight with them so he can witness what his creation is capable of.
It would make for a playable morph, which I think would be really interesting, and she doesn't already appear in Light so there'd be nothing to change there. She could even have some special quotes with Brendan, Lloyd, and Linus.
I’m glad to know someone has the same idea for Pallardo that I do, I really liked him from what little we got.
Here are the characters I would recruit in each game:
fe1/fe11 - I can't think of antagonists that I feel should be recruited, so I choose Nyna
fe2/fe15 - Berkut
fe3/fe12 - Clarisse
fe4 - Arione
fe5 - Reinhardt
fe6 - Galle
fe7 - Lloyd/Linus
fe8 - Glen
fe9 - Homasa
fe10 - Zelgius or Dheginsea
fe13 - Yen'Fay
fe14 - Kilma
fe16 - Death Knight
@Jett Lucas Hayes yeah, but I wish he was recruitable in general and not limited in just one route
Yenfay is recruitable in his paralogue before the endgame chapter in awakening
@@alexgeorgescu18 oh yea you're right, I was only looking at main story
Fe 1 Nyna
Fe 2 Albein A. Rudolf I
Fe 3 Hardin (he deserves more love)
Fe 4 Julius ans Ishtar
Fe 5 Reinhardt
Fe 6 Idunn/Jahn/Zephiel/Narcian/Galle/Murdock/Brunya
Fe 7 Nergald/Uhai/Reed Family/Darin/Ephidel/Fire Dragon (post game only) : because it's not Jahn we know nothing about them
Fe 8 Lyon/Vigarde/Grado Generals
Fe 9 Bryce/Petrine/Ashnard (but this time it's canon)
Fe 10 Deghinsea/Zelgius/Levail/Yune/Hetzel
Fe 11 Cornelius
Fe 12 Eremya
Fe 13 Mustafa and Pheros
Fe 14 Kilma/Zola/All major bosses
Fe 15 Berkut/Fernand/Rinea/Slayde
Fe 16 Roderigue/Judith/Randolphe/Ladislava/Fleche/Rhea/Sothis/Jeralt/Aelfric/Gatekeeper
Fe Warriors Darios/Yelena/Oskar
Fe Heroes Fafnir and Thorr
TMS X FE Yutsafa/Gangrel/Aversa/Pheros/Gharnef/King
Oh yeah I hear that berwick music, you can’t trick me ghast
I want Shiharam to watch his little girl become a goddess of destruction up close
For me it would be either Berkut from Gaiden/Echoes or Lloyd or Linus from Blazing Sword (depending on who you killed first).
Berkut (being saved after meeting special conditions and heal his corruption) could have interesting supports majorly dealing with his grief and guilt over sacrificing Rinea, possibly finding closure that doesn't nececssarily need to happen through a new romance. He even could have special dialogue when facing Duma. While not being able to kill him, he was corrupted by his power and definitley would have unfinished business with him.
While the deaths of Lloyd and Linus are well executed and understandable, especially if you face the second brother, it always bothered me that you never got to play more members of the Black Fang aside from Nino and Jaffar.
Obviously Gheb and Batta the Beast.
Honestly I expected Catalena to be in the Radiant Dawn spot despite her "weak" personality and (would be) awful join time. I just think she's neat. Kezhda's also a good choice though, so good job Ghast.
I definitely would like to recruit Zelgius
I would like to see supports between Ike and him.
I mean in RD Ike fights him only as a show of respect and test of his father's teaching, same goes for Zelgius, so it wouldn't be too farfetched that after they fought Ike orders Mist or any other healer like Rhys and Elincia, or even Michaiah to heal him and he joins as one of the most broken generals in the game
At least you can recruit Sephiran
Surprised by the PoR choice. I was thinking Homasa. He would not be the most unique unit, given you have Ike, Zikark, and possibly Stefan if you know how to get him, but when I first played through the game I thought he might be recruitable. The way I would have him be recruited is to have Naesala retreat after talking with Reyson. Afterwards he would need to be defeated by Ike or Stefan. He mentions in his Ike conversation that he is fighting the way his father taught him, the same as Ike, which I think could lead to Ike showing mercy. With Stefan, he mentions that Homasa is no match for him and this enrages Homasa. I could see Stefan defeating him but not killing him, saying that although he is not strong yet, he sees potential in him. He would probably support with the different swordsmen in the group as he wants to improve, as well as Jill as she also defected, and a laguz, maybe Lethe or one of the hawks. He would not stand out much from the rest of the pack, but I can easily see a way for him to be recruited.
Recruitable Homasa wold also give the player a second Sonic Sword to work with, which would be really nice considering you only get, like, 2 magic swords in the entire game.
I would actually make a case for Zola, at least in Birthright
Normally he betrays you, but he actually wants to bring Corrin back to Nohr, and asks Garon to spare them, showing he had a soft spot for them.
I would make him simply be playable after he's captured in story, but then you'd have to get a certain support level for him to survive. Either the scenario changes so that he's not the one to sell you out, or he just gets lucky with the power of friendship. Whatever the case, I would have that replace Kaze's conditonal survival because that never made sense to me in the slightest.
me, a gangrel fan: laughs triumphantly
that being said, i think it's a shame that they shoved so much good character development into an endgame recruit. his interactions with validar alone would have been glorious if he was recruited earlier.
Honestly I think Mustafa would have been better than Gangrel
@@The_Evening_Sun why does it have to be a competition? you're allowed to think both characters deserve another chance. :)
@@princeapoopoo5787 it's just that while I like Gangrel as an enemy, given what happened to Emeryn the idea of him joining the army really breaks my suspension of disbelief. I feel like it'd be the kind of thing Chrom would be super not ok with
@@The_Evening_Sun Yeah, that's why I consider the Spotpass recruitments canon-adjacent. It's similar to things in Heroes- technically content with them is from the company, so they are official, but I don't think they happen in the canon story of Awakening.
Let's be real, I love awakening it's one of if not my favorite FE game, but the spot pass paralouges not about Priam are pretty stupid
Kind of a weird pick and it probably wouldn’t make total sense… but I think having Naesala join you in Path of Radiance during Chapter 19. He could tell his troops to leave but stick around to keep an eye on Reyson, sticking around afterward for the same reason. Granted I can think of many reasons why Naesala wouldn’t stick with the army, but still, I think it would be pretty cool
For Engage I'd absolutely say Abyme!
She even reappears as a boss again, reclassed after her previous defeat. When I saw that she had come back I was sure there would be a way to recruit her
I think we can all agree that Batta The Beast deserved the blue treatment more than any other character out there in FE7. Early game brigand with high attack growth and potential to go berserker as early as chapter 16? Move over Hector, let the real axe unit take the spotlight.
He can't be recruited because he'd break the game 😔
@@princeapoopoo5787 Fair.
I've been obsessed with Havetti ever since this video.
23:09 I don't know about Pallardo being a good dude to recruit lol. Three Houses doesn't really have any characters for this slot as most bosses are either faceless mooks or they're super dedicated to their liege lords with characters like Judith, Rodrigue, Ladislava, and Randolph all basically being Camus style characters in their own way. Honestly, I feel like Indech might be the best choice. That is, if they rolled back on his "No longer able to take a human form" limitation.
I agree with Indech.
Plus, it kinda bothers me that the beast/dragon transformations in 3H are all virtually irreversible, save for maybe two of them (even though they all revert when they die). Having Manaketes and other characters with beast forms be playable units throughout a good portion of the series, only to have them be relegated to enemies or npcs in 3H makes me severely disappointed.
Plus, there's not really many "playable badass" moments in 3H, either. I would have loved to see a section where you could play as a beast/dragon, and absolutely wreck the enemy units (or turn an unfair fight against high-level enemies into a fairer one).
I love 3H, but the previous games before it like Awakening make me feel a bit better as a player, in my opinion.
One that came to mind for me is Erik from FE7. Erik is Eliwoods childhood friend, although Erik was always jealous of him. In the chapter where you fight him, Erik learns that he was sent to battle as a distraction just so his father could get away. Erik survives, but his circumstances just make sense for recruiting him, since he might have a change of heart and realise that Eliwood simply wants the best for him.
In terms of gameplay, Erik is another Cavalier in a game with so many Cavaliers/Paladins, although by that point the only ones you have are Lowen and Marcus. Because of how good Paladins are in FE7, he may still be a useful unit in the army. He also has very high weapon rank for that point in the game, being able to use the silver lance as a cavalier.
His recruitment is still consistent with FE6, as he appears as a boss there, but in that game he simply betrayed Lycia out of fear of Bern.
22:55 I mean yeah, she is just really horrendous on bases and level for where she comes in. Though I always find that Witch's Mark (Witch class) really helps her get a quick start if you save it for her.
Also the Witch class outfit really suits her. Due to her Dark Magics but also for me the fact that the witch hat works perfectly for her, unlike most units.
Damn I never think of Aias. He seems to be a good recruitable. And a great knight that I seldom promote my cav/knight into.
Selena is FE8's Camus, and I think if she knows of Vigarde's fate, the amount of convincing it takes to recruit her should be less than Brunya.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Selena cares about the people more than Brunya, therefore she has more reasons to change side (because she trusts Duessel and not necessarily Ephraim).
Fire emblem awakening Mustafa from the chapter after emmeryn dies. He was a great man who I honestly felt bad for killing as I could see a timeline where he is playable and redeem himself. Joke one vaildar and let him have a conversation with Morgan as thier grandchildren would be hilarious. Honestly walhart and aversa would have been my pick if they didn't get added.
Fire emblem fates EVERYONE. The capture units are cool enough and all are nice to get but a lot more I wish we could get like flora and Felicia's dad. Suraragi mikoto arete etc. Also it's double interesting a we kill the other side Characters yet they don't show up for the game when we side with them but can capture a few.
Sacred stones and blazing sword honestly nobody comes to mind to me.
Echoes Sonyas sisters and give us a way to bring them back to life as they are pretty. Other one alms dad as he shows he can have mercy so he would be same as BERKUT
I’m pretty sure Mustafa qualifies as Camus archetype. Loyal to cause but sympathetic to our lord character
@@shadexvii3975 he only had one chapter to do this and like 5 conversations which is why saying he is a Camus would be great. He would have been great especially when Henry joins later and Henry calls us out by saying all the ealry bosses had humanity giving him sweets or having dreams and families that died already too. Mustafa and him would have been great friends.
I mean we have recruited worse people. Aversa walhart gangrel yen fie in awakening
Fates we actually kidnapped people but honestly garon if he wasn't crazy would be Camus as he wanted his country to be saved too being a hard man.
@@ivanbluecool as far as I know, Walhart and co are like…dlc recruitment, and aren’t canonically recruited
@@shadexvii3975 I consider them more like game update units instead as they can actually interact with the main cast and get married with robin and even give a free class walhart had or the Dark magic aversa has.
Dlc I see more like the amiboo and card units with lodestar prince Marth or fates robin Ike Martha and Lucina as you need to pay for these ones instead while the awakening crew is free.
Still glad they added them as awakening was gonna be the last game and letting people have Anna the bad guys and even Marth and an Ike clone was brilliant.
@@ivanbluecool Yan’fei wasn’t evil, he was forced to fight for Walhart, as he would’ve died had he not surrendered
For Echoes, it would detract from the hopelessness (although it's not really addressed, only alluded to after the fact) but it would have been awesome if Marla and Hestia could have been captured and un-brainwashed like Celica. Then, to see a happy reunion with Sonya in the post-game would have been so heartwarming.
I think a lot of us thought of Mustafa from Awakening when we read the title of the video.
My boy only wanted his family to be safe =(
Cool concept and awesome video!
I would say Conquest Zola deserved a chance to live. He really was just doing what he thought would end the war quickly but gets killed because the Nohrian Royals are like "muh honor"
My boy Mustafa, I love him so much, he deserved better.
Strange Answer. FE:TH - Kronya. She'd be a fascinating character to have on the team, being the only Agarthan PC, and considering she murdered Jeralt. Recruited after being abandoned by Solon, her character arc would revolve around everyone distrusting her, and her cynical world view. After all, this is how she was raised, that the weak need to be strong to be worthy. This old man, Jeralt, was weak so if he was worthy, he should have better defended himself. She'd be used on particularly nasty missions during the war. Eventually she'd learn to empathise with others and in her A support with Byleth, she'll have stolen and read Jeralt's diary, learn that he was a good wholesome person with no backstabbing agenda. He selflessly cared about his child, and Kronya learns that it's not all a zero-sum game. She apologies to Byleth for her actions 5 years ago. Supports with Edelgard, Hubert, Lysithea, Linhardt, Flayn, Alois, and Seteth.
I would LOVE to see that happen
If I was Byleth I wouldn’t get over Kronya murdering My Father
@@ClaudevonRiegan_ Absolutely understandable. And Alois and Seteth would absolutely share similar sentiments. The students would be hostile at best. A big part of her story is that even growing up in a toxic "winner-take-all" environment, she still chose to do that. She can't change the past, but she can make up for it, fighting for what Jeralt believed in, in his stead.
Our lord and saviour Gheb
Fire Gheblem
Clarrise would have been awesome for new mystery. My idea is in the paralogue you would battle her, if you have Kris beat her. She decides to retreat after he explains the whole situation of whats going on. Then during the paralogue where you fight Eremayah she shows up mid way through and you could recruit her with Katarina. After understanding the full picture of whats going on, and seeing the changed Katarina working with marth being the final drive to push her to the other side.
Bloom's children are both good kids and in a perfect world you could recruit them both.
Yes to recruiting Uhai. He'd be a good unit to have if you want a mounted archer before you have access to Rath, especially in Dragon's Gate where you have to cut your way through the crowds to get the Member Card and recruit Legault.
For FE9...does Bryce count as minor, or a Camus? Because I liked his battle convo with Ike a lot.
Disregard my original comment about Mustafa, he's a Camus. I always did find Pheros a bit interesting from what little we saw of her, I'd be down with her as a SpotPass recruit.
Kilma, huh...father and daughter supports, then? Nice.
Pallardo? Well, him getting supports would mean 3H would have to finally give us some damn Anna supports. (Seriously, WHY?!) I would've personally gone with Lonato solely because Ashe deserves nice things.
I was just playing sacred stones, and fought aias for the first time, after killing him and hearing his quote i just thought "yeah, if you werent fighting against me rn we would definetly be allies"
This is random, but a few seconds in, and I’ve already realised that I’ve been pronouncing a name wrong. I pronounced Camus as “Cam-mus”.
Keep pronouncing it that way. i hate the official pronunciation
@@wildfiresnap You dont like the 'moo? ;D
@@fionavar6607 Ka-moo sounds wrong and i keep confusing it with Kamui from Echoes/Gaiden. Ka-miss sounds better imo but this is just another Deh-koo/Day-koo/Dee-koo thing so i really don’t care
@@wildfiresnap Oh I absolutely understand, I personally prefer Ka-miss as well.. :3
Denning FE7. I'M the one with a message for Nergal.
Cervantes. That's it. We need more moustache knight in our lives!
Not sure this idea would count as a payable unit, but I did have an idea with Lord Lonato from three houses.
In the fight if you clear the fog, it could also expose a yellow unit like a courier. If you take out the unit you get an item that unlocks a way to not kill Lonato/make it so that using Ashe to take him out won't kill. He gets captured and spared from execution by giving the item (being a letter) to Rhea can show he was mislead. While he would be notified that he was tricked, Lonato would still have some destain toward the church for the death of his son but will comply to stop the ones who used him.
I think he could give some bonus green forces to aid you in harder difficulties. That would be pretty neat. This is just a random idea I wanted to put down so there's probably problems.
8:45 Gomez actually has 19 CON, not 20. If he had 20 CON, it'd be literally impossible to capture him.
"who isn't a Camus"
Well crap. There goes my #1 idea, Reinhardt.
In regards to FEAwakening, in addition to Pheros, I'd also consider Raimi...she has a face AND a special color scheme, all signs point to her having been meant to be an ally, but cut for...reasons. She's also your second Armor unit, as FE armors tend to travel in pairs, and, as a Feroxi, could shed more light on said place's culture and such.
I know it’s a little meme-ey, but Batta from fe7 would be kinda cool. Lyn could recruit him during the tutorial, maybe he begs her to join after seeing his one other man get killed and seeing that Lyn has him on the ropes. He would be the only brigand in fe7 (and might have connections to the brigand recruitable character in fe6 just to be cute), he wouldn’t be that amazing of a unit having decent strength, defense, and luck. But maybe mediocre speed and res. He could also have this cool character arc, starting off as a brigand in Lyn’s army who acts pretty full of himself, but over time, and through supports, kind of realizes just how shitty of a person he was for promoting and actively reveling in brigandry. I thought it was a fun idea lol
I’m genuinely surprised he didn’t say Ruemay from Chapter 8 in Thracia. The guy clearly isn’t fighting cause he wants to and I think an early game dracoknight wouldnt be too broken given having another flier in chapter 9 would be immensely helpful. Plus in order to reach 8x you have to save Ruemay anyways
I would love Pallardò specifically because his Crit quotes are some of the best. Highlighted by his give no damns attitude.
“I’ll take your money AND your life.”
“What did you expect from a bandit?”
For every game I've finished:
FE4 Gen 1: Clement - The Duke of Mackily is one of the few Agustrian lords to tries to stay out of the conflict with Grannvale. It is only upon Anphony's defeat and concern of a total invasion arises that he decides to set up ballistae and readies his Sleep staff. I could see maybe letting Lachesis, Edain, or Deirdre speak with him to inform him that Sigurd's only intention is to help the people of Agustria and free Eldigan. Mackily would then become an allied castle for the rest of the chapter, and Clement would join Sigurd to dethrone Chagall at the start of the map.
FE4 Gen 2: Arion - Arion joining as an allied unit at the end of the game will never not feel a tad odd to me. Not much else to say.
FE4 Overall: Just more recruitable Arena enemies would've been cool.
FE6: Stater - If Galle is not an option, then I'd go with Slater, the Bernese knight assigned to Castle Araphen by Narcian. He seems genuinely terrified of what Narcian would do to him if he were to fail. Being able to convince him to abandon Bern with Elen could be an interesting addition, and a convo between him and Narcian in Ch 16 would be great. (I mulled over a parallel for Sigune in Sacae, but all the bosses are either Djutes firmly aligned with Bern [and against Kutolah] or Kel, who is devoted to Brunnya.)
FE7: Teodor - A bit of an odd pick, but I really wasn't feeling like saying Uhai or Erik. He's a member of the Black Fang, known as the Shadow Hawk. He is heavily invested in the study of dark magic, willing to push himself to the same extremes as Brammimond and Nergal. I could see him being recruited by Canas, convincing him to not throw away his years of studying the dark arts, and that the two of them could help each other grow as Druids. Of course, balancewise, this is awful, since you just got Canas and can now replace him with no investment, but since when has FE cared much with that?
FE9: Tomenami - A bit of a copout answer, but I definitely think you should have recruited him by keeping at least 10 of the Clerics alive. As a more interesting answer, Seeker, the Raven from Chapter 12. He is merely a thief. Maybe Sothe could talk to him, say that there's plenty of better things to steal in their destination of Begnion or something. Anything to get an actual playable Raven.
FE11: Yeah I really have no idea besides Orridyon. I was thinking Sternlin, a member of the Sable Order, with Marth being able to convince him, and possibly giving the player false hope in being able to recruit Camus. But the man is uncertain on Camus himself, and seems to be very patriotic.
FE13: Cervantes - Are you not enamored by this man's magnificent mustache? ...That's what I thought. Cervantes is just a joy who absolutely should've been a Spotpass character. He probably survived a lethal blow, saw it as yet another blessing of his whiskers, realized Walhart fell, and went off to find another powerful man to follow. Chrom would end up defeating whoever that someone happened to be, and Cervantes would just be like "Well, you've toppled two of the greatest men alive. Perhaps it is you who will rule this world?"
FE14 Birthright: Zola - Birthright is the only route where this mischievous mage really shines, and is attempted to be shown as a pitiable man torn between loyalty to a country he has been banished from or to the people who already gave him a second chance. Except the game does this awfully. He should have been made playable from Chapter 10, then either
a) betray you in Cyrkensia, not get killed, then re-recruited by Takumi or
b) not betray you when Corrin/Takumi have a C support with him.
FE14 Conquest: Kilma - Don't have anything to add.
FE14 Revelation: Anthony - Hear me out: *playable Faceless*.
FE14 Overall: Just give Captureables supports.
FE15: Xaizor - Again, nothing to add. No real options for Celica's side, and the only other Alm side character I could kinda see is Magnus.
FE16 Crimson Flower: Metodey - It's simple: don't kill him in Chapter 11, and he should be usable in Chapter 12.
FE16 Azure Moon: Gwendal - Upon seeing Dimitri with his own eyes, I'd expect him to find new motivation to stay alive. If need be, Ingrid (or Yuri) could have a recruit convo, reminding him of the importance of a knight's devotion to their king.
FE16 Verdant Wind: Pallardo - Nothing to add. Your reasoning for Claude to hire him makes a lot of sense.
Ashe convincing Lonato to retreat in Azure Moon only to have him join in the war phase later on. Ashe deserves happiness.
15:30 I'd argue Nedata would be a better option. He just appears out of nowhere in Ch. 9 so I always thought he was going to be recruitable. All the pros that apply to Havetti would go to Nedata too.
I expected to see that green haired swordmaster on the naesala chapter in path of radiance. Seeing leaderofpirates number 9424 was a surprise