Thrash it Mr Silvester! K20 soundtrack never fails to make me smile. I used to smoke out of the window in a top floor flat and you could here Vtec for miles around.
When I first k swapped my first DC2 years ago it was all finished apart from I didn’t have an exhaust....didn’t stop me taking it out for the night with just a manifold though....my mates could hear it 6 miles away 😂
Hi Danndy2, I just wanted to say a huge thank you for sharing your experience of driving the Civic EP3 Type R race car around Cadwell Park Circuit. Your detailed breakdown of the track and the car's performance was incredibly insightful and enjoyable to watch. It really gave me a sense of what it's like to navigate those challenging corners and straights in such an iconic car. Keep up the fantastic work!
Started watching Dan because of his E46 M3 content. I’ve sold my E46 M3 which was a weekend car and a track car. Now have a dedicated track EP3 and a Porsche for weekends. EP3 on first try out on track was a piece of sh1t. I thought it was a huge mistake, but I sent it up to Rob at Area Motorsport for a half cage, buckets & harness, rota force wheels & NS2R tyres, Tegiwa intake, yellow speed brakes, yellow speed coilovers to Rob’s spec, along with a bunch of suspension refreshment and drive shafts etc. Full geo and camber etc to Robs spec. He is a magician!!! It’s also been mapped with inlet and exhaust manifolds etc. It’s really a great car, no understeer amd it rotates beautifully into slight oversteer which you dial out through the throttle. It really handles very well and can’t fault it OTHER than the steering… Dan you are spot on, steering is the biggest let down of the car. Hoping someone comes up with a fix at some point, I’ve poured a lot of ££ into this car…
I heard it's to do with the rack placement itself and how it interacts with tie rods etc., people change the rack to DC5 or use those solid rack sliders and say it makes a difference, but there's others who say it barely improved for them. Personally I think it's just a bad design that you have to get used to...
Sounds like I hit the nail on the head! Everyone saying that. I didn't notice it on my road car at all but that just shows how different track driving is
Had caster plates and caster increase bushings on my EV1. Helped the feel for sure, but a fair bit of effort and expense to rectify a problem that imo should never have existed!
Loving the content again mate, people just chucking their keys for you to drive it’s brilliant. Even gearstick looks like it’s enjoying itself have a little side to side slide 😂
Hey Danny.👋 Not a very long video, but you caught me on my lunchbreak this time, so it worked out perfectly. Joe's EP3 looks cool, nice race spec, and sounds damn good even through my cheap headphones. Good car for sure.👍 Too bad your time with it was cut short. I could drive that one all day and never be ballsy enough to go flat out in 5th where you got told off. Like Bishop Bullwinkle said, Hell to the naw.😁 Safe to say everyone here is enjoying the fruits of all your efforts these days, Dan.🙏 Thanks again and have a good evening, dude.
Cheers Mick! I'd probably have had a go if we had more time at a quick lift and chuck (always easier when it's someone else's car!) Good fun either way, shame it got cut short but that's life
Hi danny this is my lads car good to meet you .we’re back at Cadwell this Monday 🤞 . Car now has a K24 swap be good to see what you think if you fancy another BLAST pop over . Try flat out in 5th 😂 .
Nice to meet you dude! Hope the new engine goes well was chatting to him last night about the teething problems. Can’t pop over but sure I’ll see you both again in the future 👍
Great video mate! My ep3 is pretty much the same spec bar stop tech brakes wavetrac diff and 5.8fd and I do agree with you about the steering, its so shit. every time I'm used to it a I drive a mates car and realise just how bad mine is.
@@danielcudicio4100 those are nice , but most of the aftermarket sliders I've seen on cars were metal. BUt still nothing beats hydraulic steering rack. There is a reason why honda used hydraulic racks on DC5R.
IK old video, but Inside the ep3 steering rack there is a rubber bushing that ends up flexing under a lot of load. Recently replaced that bushing with a solid metal "bushing" and definitely made the steering have sharper turn in and better communication to the tires. Still the steering ratio is very long :( definitely
Yeah the ep3 electric steering is abit over powered but glancing over that they really are great motors you can put the dc5 rack in that's ment to speed up the turn in and also the ps in those is abit nicer.
Loving this new series so far and this is another great video. How do the EP's handle compared to an EG on track other than the lack of feeling from the steering? Would be interested to see you drive a Megane R26 as people seem to rave about the renault cars and they are reasonably cheap compared to old Hondas these days. All the best
Yeah Meganes are on the list. I have the feeling I'll break a few hearts with that one and prefer the mk3, although I haven't driven either before. As I said in the video it was alright, just a bit heavier, suspension isn't as good, nor is the steering. Still a good package though the EP3
Loving the track/road car driving content at the minute mate! Ep3 racks can get a bit loose over years. Just wear and tear I think. I reckon a new rack would sort the steering feel/sharpness out dramatically! Thanks for another great video Dan!
@@dannyDC2 yeah buddy awesome driving skills!!!! Congratulations! 1 question mate I have a ep3 1stage 235hp is safe to run with 8850rpm with 100% stock engine???
I was ordering what you recommend for a good fast road setup and ocasional track day regarding: 1. ARB front/rear 2. Spring rates front/rear I have currently KW V2 and I need to put new springs so I bought rear hard race camber kit and front camber bolts
I hated the steering on mine. Even after total rebuild of the rack due to not centering properly, it was still crap. Too slow to react to driver inputs imo. It really lets these cars down. There must be a mod to sort this out by now surely?
Nah, its just inherently bad design, the way its mounted to the bulkhead with big long track rods. Heard a DC5 rack isnt worth the effort, but what does make a slight difference is fitting a delrin slider in the rack. Ive got a GT86 now, just couldn’t believe how I put up with the EP3 steering for so long..
Would love to know your thoughts on a Clio 1*2 compared to an EP3. I think they're both great cars, but you're a good driver and your opinion would be well respected
@@dannyDC2 you can't beat that k20 engine, but for some reason I've always found the 1*2 to be more fun even though it's possibly at a disadvantage on out right pace
I have an EK4 rally car and had an EP3 road car, prefer the chassis of the EK although I know its comparing a rally car to road car. Loved the position of the gearstick in the EP3 though and the gearbox was smooth as butter, unlike the rally car that's eaten two gearboxes in two rallies! p.s. If your ever up in NW England and fancy a go give me a shout
I drove one a few years ago around Spa, there was a video at the time. Need to get back out in one for this format, although I'm trying to not just do cars I'm familiar with
Never liked the EP to look at, but Honda really got the chassis right. Only took you a lap to get acquainted, almost K. Tsuchiya levels of confidence, such a pity about the red flag. Next Cadwell video to be the "Flat in 5th" test? 😅
Flat through Coppice sounds sick as tits, might give it a bash next time I’m there but have a slight fear of entering through the gates of hell backwards in a massive ball of flames if it doesn’t quite work out. Mint video as always 👌🏼👍🏼
There’s a good video on the moto iq channel going over all the shortcomings of the ep3 suspension and how to fix them. It’s the high position of the rack and the long tie rods that kill the steering on these basically.
Ah well then that changes that must just be electric ps.. i would much prefer if it had a hydrolic set up i believe the dc5 does and you can swap them over but i think its some effort to do it .. anyway though man nice driving shame it was stopped just as you were getting going
All the fast cup lads run setups the get the rear moving, they can be understeery when you lean on them, hence why people have big rear roll bars at setups to compensate. Another reason why big gay wings on the back of them make no sense.
looks like a nice spec but still consider ep3 and fn2 as low tier Type-R's in comparison to DC2/DC5 or FD2. Maybe i'm wrong but i'm more of a Honda guy and still would prefer Clio 182 or Clio III over the EP3.
Have you had much time driving ep3 or fn2? I would take them over the Clios. I like the Clios but FN2 are cool in their own way. I wanna do a video on one as my mate (who is ep3 nerd) was surprised how good it was. Unless he was just trolling but seemed to be blasting in it
@@dannyDC2 drove an EP3 but it was completely stock. Don't get me wrong, i'm not thinking these are bad cars even if FN2 has bad reputation among the Type-R's. Just maybe i want to try something different and do some tripod action. Or i just watched to many videos of Jean Ragnotti. Waiting for the video then to prove i'm wrong ;)
Mad consistency, I remember waiting months at a time for a 12 minute video on a battery clamp. Well worth it.
🤣🤣 Making more effort lately
@@dannyDC2 We appreciate it!
@@dannyDC2 MUCH appreciated for sure! ...hope you're happy doing the hard work, that's what's important at the end of the day ;)
@@edwardkarran4963 i think out of 100s of youtubers ive subbed to over the yrs dan is 1 i hoped would get some where and here we are 👍
so happy to see you posting a lot lately. Ur driving footage is always nice to watch
Shoutout to all the lads letting Danny drive their cars on track!!!
I do find myself chuckling away watching you smirk and laugh at your own jokes and observations lol
Keep up the quality content Danny
Thrash it Mr Silvester! K20 soundtrack never fails to make me smile. I used to smoke out of the window in a top floor flat and you could here Vtec for miles around.
When I first k swapped my first DC2 years ago it was all finished apart from I didn’t have an exhaust....didn’t stop me taking it out for the night with just a manifold though....my mates could hear it 6 miles away 😂
Hi Danndy2,
I just wanted to say a huge thank you for sharing your experience of driving the Civic EP3 Type R race car around Cadwell Park Circuit. Your detailed breakdown of the track and the car's performance was incredibly insightful and enjoyable to watch. It really gave me a sense of what it's like to navigate those challenging corners and straights in such an iconic car. Keep up the fantastic work!
He even went as far as colour coding his rollcage to your subtitles that's some dedication right there
🤣🤣
Nice content Danny, I’m the e36 at 3:46, you are welcome to drive+film it!
That's the S54 one right?
@@dannyDC2 no mate sorry just m52b28
It is a blast watching you drive on the track
Started watching Dan because of his E46 M3 content. I’ve sold my E46 M3 which was a weekend car and a track car. Now have a dedicated track EP3 and a Porsche for weekends.
EP3 on first try out on track was a piece of sh1t. I thought it was a huge mistake, but I sent it up to Rob at Area Motorsport for a half cage, buckets & harness, rota force wheels & NS2R tyres, Tegiwa intake, yellow speed brakes, yellow speed coilovers to Rob’s spec, along with a bunch of suspension refreshment and drive shafts etc. Full geo and camber etc to Robs spec. He is a magician!!!
It’s also been mapped with inlet and exhaust manifolds etc.
It’s really a great car, no understeer amd it rotates beautifully into slight oversteer which you dial out through the throttle. It really handles very well and can’t fault it OTHER than the steering…
Dan you are spot on, steering is the biggest let down of the car.
Hoping someone comes up with a fix at some point, I’ve poured a lot of ££ into this car…
I heard it's to do with the rack placement itself and how it interacts with tie rods etc., people change the rack to DC5 or use those solid rack sliders and say it makes a difference, but there's others who say it barely improved for them. Personally I think it's just a bad design that you have to get used to...
Having an EP3 i hope this is good, will save this vid for when I have my dinner tonight
Looks like a nicely prepped race car. Sounds pretty good too. Proper car anyway.
Love the different car perspectives. Always interesting. Cheers Dan.
The tyre scrubbing sounded like a toy car horn...lolol sick driving as usual Dan!
I had an EP3 with the same spec. I totally agree with that you’ve said especially the steering, it does the job but you just wish it had more feel.
Sounds like I hit the nail on the head! Everyone saying that. I didn't notice it on my road car at all but that just shows how different track driving is
Had caster plates and caster increase bushings on my EV1. Helped the feel for sure, but a fair bit of effort and expense to rectify a problem that imo should never have existed!
Loving the content again mate, people just chucking their keys for you to drive it’s brilliant. Even gearstick looks like it’s enjoying itself have a little side to side slide 😂
had worse jobs lol
@@dannyDC2 definitely mate, bet your loving it🙏🏼
That downshift at 7:19 pretty sweet!
Hey Danny.👋 Not a very long video, but you caught me on my lunchbreak this time, so it worked out perfectly. Joe's EP3 looks cool, nice race spec, and sounds damn good even through my cheap headphones. Good car for sure.👍 Too bad your time with it was cut short. I could drive that one all day and never be ballsy enough to go flat out in 5th where you got told off. Like Bishop Bullwinkle said, Hell to the naw.😁 Safe to say everyone here is enjoying the fruits of all your efforts these days, Dan.🙏 Thanks again and have a good evening, dude.
Cheers Mick! I'd probably have had a go if we had more time at a quick lift and chuck (always easier when it's someone else's car!)
Good fun either way, shame it got cut short but that's life
Hi danny this is my lads car good to meet you .we’re back at Cadwell this Monday 🤞 . Car now has a K24 swap be good to see what you think if you fancy another BLAST pop over . Try flat out in 5th 😂 .
Nice to meet you dude! Hope the new engine goes well was chatting to him last night about the teething problems. Can’t pop over but sure I’ll see you both again in the future 👍
Steering is the biggest let down on ep3......rest of its great, good reviews keep em coming
Great video mate! My ep3 is pretty much the same spec bar stop tech brakes wavetrac diff and 5.8fd and I do agree with you about the steering, its so shit. every time I'm used to it a I drive a mates car and realise just how bad mine is.
5.8 must rip!
Front end could have a slightly more aggressive geo but looks mega consistent! Love a good EP3
I Sorted steering float by upgrading rack slider and riser ,steering far more direct and had great feel
there is a simple solution for steering feel , just replace the rack with a hydraulic one from 7th gen coupe or RSX.
Could also be the rack slider being worn out. Common problem in Dc5s. Replaced with a solid slider helps
@@danielcudicio4100 also destroys the rack after some use , if you want to replace the slider don't use solid metal replacements.
@@Jackal9405 I used the delrin plastic type slider. They are ment to be self lubricating.
@@danielcudicio4100 those are nice , but most of the aftermarket sliders I've seen on cars were metal. BUt still nothing beats hydraulic steering rack. There is a reason why honda used hydraulic racks on DC5R.
This series is sick man, keep it up!
Your driving stuff in this series is great!
Avvvv itttttt ! Loving the content at the moment, Dan.
Comment for the algorithm, loving the content as always
cheers dude
IK old video, but Inside the ep3 steering rack there is a rubber bushing that ends up flexing under a lot of load.
Recently replaced that bushing with a solid metal "bushing" and
definitely made the steering have sharper turn in and better communication to the tires.
Still the steering ratio is very long :(
definitely
Love my JDM Type-r swapped USDM EP3.
gorgeous mullet
Followed a few ep3 at cadwell and most understeer at barn 😜
Enjoying the videos keep them coming 👌
haha must be a thing then
Had one of these, want to get one again, loved it
Yeah the ep3 electric steering is abit over powered but glancing over that they really are great motors you can put the dc5 rack in that's ment to speed up the turn in and also the ps in those is abit nicer.
Loving this new series so far and this is another great video.
How do the EP's handle compared to an EG on track other than the lack of feeling from the steering?
Would be interested to see you drive a Megane R26 as people seem to rave about the renault cars and they are reasonably cheap compared to old Hondas these days.
All the best
Yeah Meganes are on the list. I have the feeling I'll break a few hearts with that one and prefer the mk3, although I haven't driven either before.
As I said in the video it was alright, just a bit heavier, suspension isn't as good, nor is the steering. Still a good package though the EP3
Awesome driving Dan
Defo need more Honda related videos 👌🏼 Sack off the mr2 and do the trophy cup 🤣
Sad it was cut short. You get use to a new car really quick !
yeah it was going well, shame
every time i watch these i get bad boys 2 flash backs . he going to test drive the shit outta this
🤣🤣 Great film. Love the porsche in bad boys 1
Flippen awesome driving!!!! What a car so nicely setup 👌
Love the videos man !!! Awesome 😁
Loving the track/road car driving content at the minute mate! Ep3 racks can get a bit loose over years. Just wear and tear I think. I reckon a new rack would sort the steering feel/sharpness out dramatically! Thanks for another great video Dan!
Smashing the videos out, love it mate 🤙
Team Dynamics wheels look good on an EP3
I don’t want to blow smoke 💨 but you awesome driver 🤘🏻respect man 😜🏁
Cheers dude
@@dannyDC2 yeah buddy awesome driving skills!!!! Congratulations! 1 question mate I have a ep3 1stage 235hp is safe to run with 8850rpm with 100% stock engine???
I was ordering what you recommend for a good fast road setup and ocasional track day regarding:
1. ARB front/rear
2. Spring rates front/rear
I have currently KW V2 and I need to put new springs so I bought rear hard race camber kit and front camber bolts
That track looks fun
I hated the steering on mine. Even after total rebuild of the rack due to not centering properly, it was still crap. Too slow to react to driver inputs imo. It really lets these cars down. There must be a mod to sort this out by now surely?
The only one I know about was people swapping the electric rack for a DC5 hydraulic one
Nah, its just inherently bad design, the way its mounted to the bulkhead with big long track rods. Heard a DC5 rack isnt worth the effort, but what does make a slight difference is fitting a delrin slider in the rack. Ive got a GT86 now, just couldn’t believe how I put up with the EP3 steering for so long..
Next video “I’m entering the type R theophy and here’s my new ep3” 😅
Great video what size team dynamics was these?
Loving these on track reviews!! Few rockets over here for you to have a go with when the world sorts its shit out 😆.
For sure man
Nice car! Another good video Dan
Love this type of videos! 👌
He passed the gtr!!! Awesome!!!
always was curious about why you went with the MR2 class vs the EP3 ...or even the Hot Hatch class. Love the videos & driving content!
Racing wasn’t ever really about driving cars I liked it’s just about the competition
225 is too small at front for an ep3. I did my first track with 255 at front, and 6 degrees of caster, and the car is so fun now
Would love to know your thoughts on a Clio 1*2 compared to an EP3. I think they're both great cars, but you're a good driver and your opinion would be well respected
the classic debate of forums for the past 10+ years. I always vote Civic, although really like 1*2s. They're great fun
@@dannyDC2 you can't beat that k20 engine, but for some reason I've always found the 1*2 to be more fun even though it's possibly at a disadvantage on out right pace
Another great video Dan! 👍 I know it’s a Ford but you’re more than welcome to have a blast in mine if I ever catch you at a Track Day in future 😃
Cracking stuff! I'll let you drive my B18 mini once its finished being restored, might be a long while yet though :P
Sounds good
I owned a evo 9 MRFQ 360 HKS and I enjoyed my ep3 type R more I found it more fun even tho the evo was faster
Fancy driving my track prepped boosted EP3 Dan? I'm 5 mins from Cadwell
"Magpie shifter" that tickled me
Glad to see a car that comes with a kseries, so sick of seeing the exact same k20 swaped eg civic. Something NEW FINALLY
Flat in 5th through coppice 👀 don't think my FN2 on trofeo R would do that 🤔 find out next time I'm there
I think a little lift and get back on it is the style, hoping that the scrub up the hill can take you round. Never done it myself
would be cool to see an ef civic review, nonetheless awesome vid!
I have an EK4 rally car and had an EP3 road car, prefer the chassis of the EK although I know its comparing a rally car to road car.
Loved the position of the gearstick in the EP3 though and the gearbox was smooth as butter, unlike the rally car that's eaten two gearboxes in two rallies!
p.s. If your ever up in NW England and fancy a go give me a shout
Yeah the older ones have some magic going on. I'd love to have a go at a rally some day!
Nice. I wonder what would you think about the FD2. I know you guys have a few of those in the UK. Have an FA5 myself.
I drove one a few years ago around Spa, there was a video at the time. Need to get back out in one for this format, although I'm trying to not just do cars I'm familiar with
Need to get you in my Celica VVTLi 190. It’s a right budget track car but it’s fun.
I’d love a K20 powered EK just didn’t try hard enough at school 😆
Sounds dangerous
@@dannyDC2 I put my brave pants on every time. It’s a good strong car 💪🏼
Never liked the EP to look at, but Honda really got the chassis right. Only took you a lap to get acquainted, almost K. Tsuchiya levels of confidence, such a pity about the red flag. Next Cadwell video to be the "Flat in 5th" test? 😅
Lovely car. 😎😎😎
He needs the Ktuned tirod arms to fully delete steering wheel play
Flat through Coppice sounds sick as tits, might give it a bash next time I’m there but have a slight fear of entering through the gates of hell backwards in a massive ball of flames if it doesn’t quite work out. Mint video as always 👌🏼👍🏼
Where is this track mate?
after driving the eg and ep3 i bet you're itching to get back in the dc2!
yeah sure, gonna be good
i think the steering sounds baggy like the gearbox.
Solid rack slider would sort that sloppy steering out
it makes better but it doesnt eliminate it. th-cam.com/video/EbgE2RfSp-g/w-d-xo.html
Man this makes me want another ep3. Tempted to px my fiat coupe 20v turbo for one maybe if anyone interested
Here you have it: McPherson vs DoubleWishbone
The steering is one issue. The ride over bumps another..... sadly.
This rode over bumps well tbf
The steering rack is positioned very high up on these EP3s, I think that comes into it as well
There’s a good video on the moto iq channel going over all the shortcomings of the ep3 suspension and how to fix them. It’s the high position of the rack and the long tie rods that kill the steering on these basically.
Nani Japanese for "you bastard" 🤣 top content chap!
I thought it was just for confused wtf
nani is "what?" in japanese mate dunno where ur getting bastard from lool
Need some B series love 💔
there is a plan
Id either say its the electric ps or the slider in the rack that causes that feeling.... but either way nice car driven well 👍
I thought rack slider, but it had one on it
Ah well then that changes that must just be electric ps.. i would much prefer if it had a hydrolic set up i believe the dc5 does and you can swap them over but i think its some effort to do it .. anyway though man nice driving shame it was stopped just as you were getting going
better include outside view
first
Dan.. u seen ur e36 back on ebay?
@@D4VE26 yeah man, my E34 is too
Which year is this one
Have you considered the civic cup or type R trophy cup instead of the MR2 championship?
If you watch the video I mention that
@@dannyDC2 haha too keen, I'm only 30 seconds in
@@HenryOCarmichaelSmith lol it’s towards the end
Square tyres? You wana get some round ones
means the size is the same front and rear
@@dannyDC2 Yeah, same for the ol clio's 195's. Unless ur a crazy Ruski
What would be the prefered set up then ? Just out of interest
@@scumtastic7781 driven wheels going wider is usually a good idea
I'm not a fan of the steering feel on the EP3. Rest of the car is pretty good on track from my experience.
Fn2 would deffo make a better track car. Better chassis and more steering feel
S2000 or ep3 on a track who wins
5:43 lol
Yeeeee
you can change the rack to a DC2 one i think
You definitely can't, totally different design
@@dannyDC2 ah right, must be thinking of something else. Awesome video. Always love to see an EP3. Much love.
@@JamieLucaZ89 You can do DC5 hydraulic conversion which people say helps the feel a lot
You would have to change full system, not sure the pulley would fit under the bonnet?
@@dannyDC2 DC5 racks have been swapped into EP3s, Not entirely sure on the process but it can be done.
Racing car
All the fast cup lads run setups the get the rear moving, they can be understeery when you lean on them, hence why people have big rear roll bars at setups to compensate. Another reason why big gay wings on the back of them make no sense.
I think more meat on the front tyre would get this one boogying alright
Try an MX5 NA or NB
Indeed but NC is my favourite
Bossman
looks like a nice spec but still consider ep3 and fn2 as low tier Type-R's in comparison to DC2/DC5 or FD2. Maybe i'm wrong but i'm more of a Honda guy and still would prefer Clio 182 or Clio III over the EP3.
Have you had much time driving ep3 or fn2? I would take them over the Clios. I like the Clios but FN2 are cool in their own way. I wanna do a video on one as my mate (who is ep3 nerd) was surprised how good it was. Unless he was just trolling but seemed to be blasting in it
@@dannyDC2 drove an EP3 but it was completely stock. Don't get me wrong, i'm not thinking these are bad cars even if FN2 has bad reputation among the Type-R's. Just maybe i want to try something different and do some tripod action. Or i just watched to many videos of Jean Ragnotti. Waiting for the video then to prove i'm wrong ;)
That cage is mega sexy!
Mapped ep3 owner 240hp and you guessed it zero torque 😂
Steering looks like it moves but car not so much
Wow great username
It’s my Facebook page 😂 my sr went boom and was big sad 💀
Nani
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