Egg: "I need card draw" - ignores Acrobatics Egg: "I don't have enough block" - takes exclusively attacks Egg: "Stacking poison seems great" - skips the most powerful poison synergies Egg: "I should get rid of some basic attacks" - doesn't use card removal when offered Egg: "Bullet Time is amazing" - already has enough energy to play everything drawn Egg: "I need to get ahead of the curve" - discards Dexterity What a series.
or rather the artery is going to pop.... I'm not going to be the one partaking in the specific action of popping said artery. cause, y'know that be kinda weird. still getting the hang of this second language and all that.
In the first episode he passed up an early Catalyst and Corpse Explosion from the boss. With Bouncing Flask 12 damage x 3 for Catalyst x 3 for Corpse Explosion = 108 damage to the whole enemy party and even more if he uses other poisons, gets another Catalyst, or Burst. He has Well-Laid plans to retain two cards each round until he's enabled enough poison and would be easy to cycle if his deck wasn't such a mish mash. Noxious Fumes and Envenom would get wrecked by the Awakened One who gains Strength from Powers and Envenom only does Poison damage to enemies you hurt which is one of the advantage of Poison of easily culling high armor targets. Flask's four Poison procs is enough to get through targets with 3x Artifact or three targets with 1x Artifact. Just some thoughts
"we have literally no blocks. how did this happen" I don't know egg.... maybe cuz u only take attack cards and no defense... but I guess it'll forever be a mystery
After he acknowledged it, he takes the next three attack cards. He simply cannot stop himself from picking cards. He doesn't understand the innate power of skip.
indeed. you dont want more than a few attacks in the deck. you want card draw/discard, energy generation and combo pieces. everything else can be accomplished by cycling through your deck.
He can't can't resist feeling like it's a "reward" for combat. Take the gold and the potions, leave the cards. He just doesn't seem to understand how much better a 16 card deck is than a 32 card deck. He's also fond of grabbing anything that's "a slightly better strike" so he ends up with 20 or so of essentially the same card. He then wonders why he can't get to anything worth while.
Yeah, I agree, skipping is huge in this game as a bloated deck just increases the variance you see on a turn to turn basis. Now, mind you, taking cards can often be the right decision too. I do sort of disagree with the idea that a very small deck is ideal (because of how much opportunity cost can be lost by spending gold to remove cards), and I think an ideal deck is more around 20 cards with potential more leeway depending. Draw + energy builds absolutely can get away with it, and cards like Backflip, Heel Hook, Adrenaline, and Outmanuveur are almost always auto grabs for me. But I also think NL has made some decent decisions when he passed up cards like Deadly Poison earlier on, so he is learning slowly. (Was that a different video? They all kind of blur together)
+MineStoneCraftAMine But is it? With the smaller deck you not only can get your best cards more often, but you also decrease the chances of getting the 'same' (as in: effect) cards and you have a much greater control over your deck. It's actually pretty easy to cycle through your deck (when it's not too big) to pick just the right card for the right situation when there is so many low/no cost draw cards.
NL it's frustrating when you refer to the collective "we" making a misplay when I'm sitting here bashing my head against the desk contemplating how anyone could ever make such a misplay. Keep up the good work! Looking forward to the next episode! :)
I just really don't get how obvious stuff like "apply vulnerable before attacking" just really doesnt seem to stick. It's not hard and he knows what the status does, how does he never seem to get it right?
For real, he needs a checklist of generic things to check before playing "am I attacking? Do I have vulnerable/strength up I can apply first" or "am I blocking? Can I up my dex"
I can see it sticking around longer than you think, and especially coming back when the third character is released (at which time we all need to watch him relearn the game because he has the retention of a sieve). He hasn't even gotten two runs complete yet.
Well, evidently he doesn't take enough time because he still manages to misplay. Slay the Spire, like many, if not all, card-based games, isn't a "high octane action" game, you need to calculate values in order to succeed consistently. I'm fairly certain most people who watch games like this know that, so taking a bit extra time in order to not misplay horribly is a fair tradeoff.
Remove a card is the most powerful thing in the game. It makes -all- your other cards better, by making them come up more often. Spend all your money on it, choose it over almost any other option.
I'm always impressed by how many cards you add to your deck, while refusing to remove any starting cards. Removal is almost always better than upgrading a card.
Hey you beautiful eggperson, I acquiesce you like poison builds, but focusing on it can be a gamble because you need some specific powers and artifacts to make them shine. The trick is to keep your deck compact and have enough blocks to stand your ground while the poison whittles away the enemy's HP. Getting lots of value offensive cards can be a tempation, but is also a trap if you're trying to make a synergy work. Having a hand full of attacks on no way to mitigate damage is also ranked very high on the list of death causes for Shyboi, I mean, The Silent.
Yo I'm in agreement here. I finally won a run on The Silent by focusing mainly on defensive cards. It's kind of weird to think about building The Silent very defensively and playing the attrition game considering he supposed to be like an assassin in an MMO (the hit hard and fast guys). But when I play him slowly I usually get the best results. (unless it's the Gremlin 😠 )
So for the Imp leader guy, the strat is to always kill at least 1-2 of his minions so he never attacks or buffs. Otherwise he's almost always an extreme problem for this character. Just a heads up for anyone who plays this game.
I've never had a problem with him using the warrior guy, but with the assassin guy I just never have enough immediate stopping power to kill him quickly enough.
Still haven’t played this game, so genuinely curious: should he have been removing strikes? It seemed by the end he was picking up 1-cost strike replacements that were strictly better. Were there any other cards good for dropping?
Strikes to defend 2-1 is a terrific ratio of removal. You need to make room for the good cards (and don't just pick something up because it's slightly better). The idea is that you want a few GREAT cards in your deck, so every turn you're playing hard hitting cards, not every fifth turn if you're lucky, like what he's doing. The Silent gets better draw and energy than Ironclad, that's why he always has so much trouble with Ironclad runs. You just CAN'T play a 30 card deck in a reasonable amount of time, and if you draw nothing but attacks when you need defense and defense when no one is attacking you get wrecked.
One of the most important things to take into account while constructing a deck in any card game is consistency. You want to have as few cards as possible in your deck, so that you can see the absolute best ones as often as possible. Strikes and defenses this late in the game are pure garbage, that’s why you should go out of your way to remove them
Bobby.... we're talking about Ironclad here, for one thing, not the Silent. Secondly, I'm not calling you out or anything, but yeah. You didn't have a 53 card deck, that doesn't exist. I'd break it down into ten starting cards, 3 boss fights etc... but you know that you didn't pick up that many cards and win. Everyone knows it. No way you're even pretending it's an Ironclad run, which makes the entire fairy tale irrelevant. Moving along, Giannis is exactly right. There's nothing more to be said about it, unless you want to construct a make believe story like our friend Bobby. More to the point, you start with ten cards, and there's 51 rooms (counting boss fights) so this moron child is obviously lying. In order to have 53 cards he never EVER rested, succeeded at all matches with the goblin memory game etc. Clown's lying (obviously) so just ignore him. = )
Right, except you lost. I'm not arguing your ability to accrue every card in the game. It's easily done. You didn't win because you were holding 25 useless cards on the second boss fight. Nice try mate. Possible isn't "yo look what I just did."
Hey NL, My run with The Silent went smoothly when I stacked a lot of defense cards and mechanics with poison effects. The silent is meant to be played much slower and way tankier. Also, it is okay to completely tank up and do no dmg for a turn as The Silent in order to save HP and let the poison and other effects do their work.
you should be banned from picking trip as you use it extremely poorly NL applies weak litterly 1 second later "why are we finding it so hard to enable weakness" good job egg
I am 21 minutes in, and I think there has been a misplay on every turn :) Still, means you can only get better. It's a great game, and thanks to your videos I bought it last night. I was addicted and was nearly late for work, so I am continuing watching your videos at work just to beat my cravings. But the misplays hurt my face!! :)
NL your problem with the Silent is that you pick poison cards, which are sustained damage cards, but no cards to defend yourself like blur or stuff like that. Either you go all out and pick high damage value low defense cards (Die Die Die, Finisher, Choke) like I like to do, or you have to make a suitable build for poison to work in. Not every card that has the poison tag in it is going to be automatically awesome just because it fits with your deck archetype, sometimes you NEED to pick out some cards you really need
It will look like I'm shilling but if you think this game looks fun buy it. I'm enjoying it a lot and it's a textbook example of Early Access done right.
Lol at 33:11, "Why are we finding it so hard to enable weakness" as he just used sucker punch that turn enabling weakness.... Also do more quick maths NL Choke + Trip + Sucker Punch + Heel Hook was certainly lethal.
I had the most OP run ever when I first came across that boss and he was still able to take half of my max hp so don't feel bad that you lost. Honestly with The Silent, I believe it's best to focus on card draw and card removal if only because I get broken/extremely quick hands whenever I do.
this class its insanely fun and strong with discard synergy, it plays like old school miracle rogue in hearthstone, if you can get your hands on some discard synergy trinkets give discard strat a try.
20:23 Yes it is worth it, if the card is worse than anything in your hand you can discard it and if not you've just improved your hand. The draw is before the discard, as the text on the card reads 'draw' before 'discard'.
I hope these comments actually help you, I love watching you get better, but these sub optimal plays really hurts to watch sometimes. 1. NEVER gamble on getting the cards you want from calculated gamble or card draws. If you do, you're lucky, but luck can only get one so far. 2. Please learn to prioritize card order. You keep catching yourself in the middle of the play, and this is leading to extremely inefficient plays with the chokes and trips. 3. CREATE A PLAY STYLE EARLY!!!! This deck was extremely weird. You had a mix of long term damage w/ extremely high burst damage and no defense. If you were going for burst damage never take endless agony and utilities as they just stuff your deck with extra cards. Ignore poison damage and go straight for attacks like riddle with holes and sweeping blades. If you wanted to play the long game, take caltrops, defensive cards like Dodge and Roll/Blur/Escape Plan, and ignore damaging cards in favor for draws to get that crucial block or weaken. Having this mixed bag of a deck led to dips in damage that just didn't kill fast enough and didn't have enough defense to mitigate damage. You also had waaaay too many weakening cards. Imagine if the second neutralize was a noxious fumes+ instead? or take that Sucker Punch and change it into a second bullet time. Look for cards that are crucial to your deck instead of picking the one that helps short term. 4. Know your damage! I feel like this should be number one, but tbh i feel like you already know this NL. Hover the card over the enemy to see the damage that will be dealt to get a more accurate representation of your damage. Also calculate vulnerable if you have cards like trip and weakness. For instance the triple Bird Cultists encounter: First turn 9+9+6+8=32 damage and 8*4=32 Finisher damage so take 49-32=17 then 17-8-9=0 which would have killed the bird with 3 wasted poison damage. The remaining 14 damage could have gone into another bird and saved you 9-12 HP points. (This is also a sub optimal play, but i had to make a quick example) 5. Energy Calculation, draws, and discards: Optimize your plays. The wasted Shiv in the Healer/Defender Fight, the wasted block during the Parasite fight. All these need to be optimized please slow down and calculate.
Is anybody internally screaming when he says he doesn't realize every time he says he doesn't weaken an enemy to use Heel Hook, but it turns out the enemy is actually weakened?
The hand you died with tells such a story about undervaluing card removal. You were stuck with 3 strikes that could do nothing to help you out. I think card draw would have been really strong in that deck.
The Huntress is only hard on the first floor. NL, you egg.....stack card drawl, and poison cards. Dont worry about strikes. Like poison stab and noxious fumes are amazing. But focus on defense, and card drawl, and point, and its easy mode.
The only poison card you need to win is Envenom, and then just fill your deck with energy generation and card draw so you can stack it up on enemies by hitting them a dozen times each turn.
Imagine having a conversation with yourself, while being recorded, and never messing up any of your plays ever. It's already hard enough to self-evaluate because you don't notice the mistakes you make yourself otherwise you wouldn't have made them in the first place. I know it feels good to attack someone you respect but saying stuff like this just sorta shows us how much of a dick you can be.
It's really not that hard. I stream all the time. He's not exactly talking about something unrelated. I dunno where everyone got the idea that narrating what you're doing and why is so brain numbing. It isn't. You just vocalize what you're thinking. Now if he was debating salad dressings on a per lettuce basis, or playing marry/fuck/kill I could see the argument. He's not.
Oh, it's must be *such* a hard thing to do, I can barely contain the tears in my eyes. There's no need to whiteknight for the egg, he can take the criticism (or deflect) fine by himself.
Loving the series a lot, got a little bored with isaac so this is a really nice change of pace as I love you as a youtuber. Are you planning on doing a civ 6 run through?
I feel like NL underuses cards like Endless Agony. It seems to me they're better late game because they duplicate themselves when you draw them, so it's better to use them as discard outlets or save them for later so you can just play out like 10 endless agonies in one explosive turn and should spend the rest of your turns setting up vulnerable or buffing strength so you can deal more damage with them.
Based on what I've seen of both classes from NL, the Ironclad's innate of healing after each combat seems WAAAY stronger than Silent's. Maybe if Silent drew an extra card every turn or gained extra gold after each battle to balance out the IC's constant, free resource replenishment.
me when I subbed: I like this guy, he's rational, witty, and charismatic me after watching him slay the spire: for fuck's sake, nl, think before you act
The name of the game is relics. It builds so much synergy around your cards. Try and save up gold for the relics at shops and it should go by much more smoothly. Great vids tho!
Okay, not gonna lie. Even if NL does make some bad plays, the fact that the boss can just instantly shrug off all bad effects like that is sort of bullshit.
at about 22:00, you should have focused on the main enemy while blocking since that enemy type makes more enemy's. it makes your situation worse to not attack the main enemy since you risk not drawing block on a turn in an attack focused deck.
At the very least you have internalized upping your dexterity before blocking, this is good progress. However, skipping the second footwork card (dex +2) was a foolish move in my opinion. For 1 energy, you improve all of your blocks by +2 for the rest of combat. That kind of effect is worth having around multiple times, especially when it comes to longer fights like elite encounters and boss enemies. As you yourself stated a few times in the episode however, turn order is something you still need to work on, particularly with cards like Choke that have special effects that activate upon playing subsequent cards. I find it much easier to keep things in mind by doing the gameplay equivalent of rubber duck programming, explain the order of events verbally before you play out your hand, including every extra effect that should take place when you play a card, and finish off by explaining the cards that you're *not* using and why. If you do this enough for a while it gets easier to organize turn order in your head. Keep a calculator on hand if you don't want to do math in your head, because doing the math can mean the difference between victory and defeat in this game. Lastly, you're running into block problems because you're letting your decks get too big my dude. 30 should be the absolute upper limit for a deck, and if you find yourself approaching that number, you should endeavor to get rid of some base strikes or defends.
Egg: "I need card draw" - ignores Acrobatics
Egg: "I don't have enough block" - takes exclusively attacks
Egg: "Stacking poison seems great" - skips the most powerful poison synergies
Egg: "I should get rid of some basic attacks" - doesn't use card removal when offered
Egg: "Bullet Time is amazing" - already has enough energy to play everything drawn
Egg: "I need to get ahead of the curve" - discards Dexterity
What a series.
thanks brock comments like this killed the series
@@fisheatsyourhead he still makes slay the spire videos?
@@fisheatsyourhead I hope that's sarcasm
*Enables weakness with sucker punch* “Why is it so hard to enable weakness?..”
Ag thank you, one of these days I'm going to pop the artery pulsating on my forehead while screaming at my TV screen.
or rather the artery is going to pop.... I'm not going to be the one partaking in the specific action of popping said artery. cause, y'know that be kinda weird. still getting the hang of this second language and all that.
This in the same turn that he neglects to lead with trip and choke. And fails to play heel hook at all. This turn hurts so bad to watch.
and ignored heal hook which has week and gives 1 energy back
And he still somehow managed to blunder his way to victory in that fight. That's sort of impressive in its own, twisted way.
"Hey, i want to commit to poison but not enough to make it really really good"
he already fucked that up last episode by not taking catalyst
In the first episode he passed up an early Catalyst and Corpse Explosion from the boss. With Bouncing Flask 12 damage x 3 for Catalyst x 3 for Corpse Explosion = 108 damage to the whole enemy party and even more if he uses other poisons, gets another Catalyst, or Burst.
He has Well-Laid plans to retain two cards each round until he's enabled enough poison and would be easy to cycle if his deck wasn't such a mish mash.
Noxious Fumes and Envenom would get wrecked by the Awakened One who gains Strength from Powers and Envenom only does Poison damage to enemies you hurt which is one of the advantage of Poison of easily culling high armor targets. Flask's four Poison procs is enough to get through targets with 3x Artifact or three targets with 1x Artifact. Just some thoughts
"we have literally no blocks. how did this happen"
I don't know egg.... maybe cuz u only take attack cards and no defense... but I guess it'll forever be a mystery
After he acknowledged it, he takes the next three attack cards. He simply cannot stop himself from picking cards. He doesn't understand the innate power of skip.
indeed. you dont want more than a few attacks in the deck. you want card draw/discard, energy generation and combo pieces. everything else can be accomplished by cycling through your deck.
He can't can't resist feeling like it's a "reward" for combat. Take the gold and the potions, leave the cards. He just doesn't seem to understand how much better a 16 card deck is than a 32 card deck.
He's also fond of grabbing anything that's "a slightly better strike" so he ends up with 20 or so of essentially the same card. He then wonders why he can't get to anything worth while.
Yeah, I agree, skipping is huge in this game as a bloated deck just increases the variance you see on a turn to turn basis.
Now, mind you, taking cards can often be the right decision too. I do sort of disagree with the idea that a very small deck is ideal (because of how much opportunity cost can be lost by spending gold to remove cards), and I think an ideal deck is more around 20 cards with potential more leeway depending. Draw + energy builds absolutely can get away with it, and cards like Backflip, Heel Hook, Adrenaline, and Outmanuveur are almost always auto grabs for me.
But I also think NL has made some decent decisions when he passed up cards like Deadly Poison earlier on, so he is learning slowly. (Was that a different video? They all kind of blur together)
+MineStoneCraftAMine But is it? With the smaller deck you not only can get your best cards more often, but you also decrease the chances of getting the 'same' (as in: effect) cards and you have a much greater control over your deck. It's actually pretty easy to cycle through your deck (when it's not too big) to pick just the right card for the right situation when there is so many low/no cost draw cards.
Man, I hate when I have a card full of seven hands.
Brandon Bevill
*Swallowed penny
*hits enemy with a card that applies weakness and then hovers over Heel Hook* "Why i find it so hard to apply weakness."
Also in the shop he goes "ehhh we have enough weakness"
I'm late to the party but I can't get enough of this series, it's like a trainwreck 😂
Max hand size is 10, i think
Edit: YOU MAD MAN, DO YOU KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WEAKNESS AND VULNERABLE?
Ten is indeed max hand size.
NL it's frustrating when you refer to the collective "we" making a misplay when I'm sitting here bashing my head against the desk contemplating how anyone could ever make such a misplay. Keep up the good work! Looking forward to the next episode! :)
Benjamin Lavin me too XD
everytime his enemy was weak and he said heel hook wasn't enabled I died a little
*uses sucker punch* why is weakness so hard to enable??
Mmffgg When he said that I actually got cancer.
This is my new favourite series
I just really don't get how obvious stuff like "apply vulnerable before attacking" just really doesnt seem to stick. It's not hard and he knows what the status does, how does he never seem to get it right?
For real, he needs a checklist of generic things to check before playing "am I attacking? Do I have vulnerable/strength up I can apply first" or "am I blocking? Can I up my dex"
He knows he's not playing this game long-term, so I don't think he cares.
I can see it sticking around longer than you think, and especially coming back when the third character is released (at which time we all need to watch him relearn the game because he has the retention of a sieve). He hasn't even gotten two runs complete yet.
Not to mention its FOR ZERO ENERGY!
tiersie to add to the checklist, he also needs to see if he has lethal before playing a bunch of defenda
Multiple dexterity cards are actually incredible?
Bit slow, but dex is a great buff.
he had like 4 block cards? in a deck of like 30 cards?
it can be. Depends on what the game throws at you really.
Multiple dex+dodge and roll is amazing.
you need to go slower with your turns, and look at all the cards you have in your hand before playing any
EVEN slower?
dawg he already takes a million years to incorrectly calculate poison damage, how much slower do you need him to be?!
Slow enough that at least he's not astonished by his misplays
Well, evidently he doesn't take enough time because he still manages to misplay. Slay the Spire, like many, if not all, card-based games, isn't a "high octane action" game, you need to calculate values in order to succeed consistently. I'm fairly certain most people who watch games like this know that, so taking a bit extra time in order to not misplay horribly is a fair tradeoff.
Play a Choke card on me, daddy.
and play it first....
I actually laughed out loud at this comment
LET'S GO!!!!
Slay the let's go
Remove a card is the most powerful thing in the game. It makes -all- your other cards better, by making them come up more often. Spend all your money on it, choose it over almost any other option.
Damn NL is a master at making you want to buy the game and try to do what he isn't. I want to try a Noxious Fumes + all out block deck
NL's Slay the Spire quote should *actually* be "This was a misplay"
ah so close yet so far. this series is so fun to watch i get surprised looking at the time mark afterwards because it just flies by ✨
Really solid run, that final fight turned unexpectedly. Fascinating series. Keep it up!
3:05 TO LISTEN TO ME WHINE
madman
I'm always impressed by how many cards you add to your deck, while refusing to remove any starting cards. Removal is almost always better than upgrading a card.
Hey you beautiful eggperson, I acquiesce you like poison builds, but focusing on it can be a gamble because you need some specific powers and artifacts to make them shine. The trick is to keep your deck compact and have enough blocks to stand your ground while the poison whittles away the enemy's HP. Getting lots of value offensive cards can be a tempation, but is also a trap if you're trying to make a synergy work. Having a hand full of attacks on no way to mitigate damage is also ranked very high on the list of death causes for Shyboi, I mean, The Silent.
Yo I'm in agreement here. I finally won a run on The Silent by focusing mainly on defensive cards. It's kind of weird to think about building The Silent very defensively and playing the attrition game considering he supposed to be like an assassin in an MMO (the hit hard and fast guys). But when I play him slowly I usually get the best results. (unless it's the Gremlin 😠 )
The Silent is actually a woman; There's some cards that show less of their cloak, and they''ve definitely got curves.
I mean, it also explicitly states she's female in the description.
C'mon guys. It's 2018. Just because you're a woman doesn't mean you can't be a b o i .
lmao
missed lethal
tinted lethal*
Dw about losing to The Champ, he is a hard boss. Screw his ridiculous strength gain and metallicize and his ability to clear debuffs.
So for the Imp leader guy, the strat is to always kill at least 1-2 of his minions so he never attacks or buffs. Otherwise he's almost always an extreme problem for this character. Just a heads up for anyone who plays this game.
Chris Heidke I just focus him down as quickly as possible. He's the easiest elite imo
I've never had a problem with him using the warrior guy, but with the assassin guy I just never have enough immediate stopping power to kill him quickly enough.
NL makes me cry (of despair) so much when he derps around with his twisted logic
HE
IS
WEAKENED
YOU MADMAN
Snecko's eye has become my favourite relic, confusion allows for you to make a deck full of very expensive cards which will randomly be nearly free
Are there a bearable amount of misplays in this one? Actual question
no
James L probably not
I think the only misplay he actually did was to take heel hook instead of doppelganger, which is a great card
I would avoid the third fourth of the video. Other than that everything is good
its getting better but there still a lot of room for improvement.
Brace yourselves for the horrible misplays bois!
its so bad
Catmonk201 its
endless agony
I die a little bit inside when he skips the card removal in the shops...
Still haven’t played this game, so genuinely curious: should he have been removing strikes? It seemed by the end he was picking up 1-cost strike replacements that were strictly better. Were there any other cards good for dropping?
Strikes to defend 2-1 is a terrific ratio of removal.
You need to make room for the good cards (and don't just pick something up because it's slightly better). The idea is that you want a few GREAT cards in your deck, so every turn you're playing hard hitting cards, not every fifth turn if you're lucky, like what he's doing.
The Silent gets better draw and energy than Ironclad, that's why he always has so much trouble with Ironclad runs. You just CAN'T play a 30 card deck in a reasonable amount of time, and if you draw nothing but attacks when you need defense and defense when no one is attacking you get wrecked.
One of the most important things to take into account while constructing a deck in any card game is consistency. You want to have as few cards as possible in your deck, so that you can see the absolute best ones as often as possible. Strikes and defenses this late in the game are pure garbage, that’s why you should go out of your way to remove them
Bobby.... we're talking about Ironclad here, for one thing, not the Silent.
Secondly, I'm not calling you out or anything, but yeah. You didn't have a 53 card deck, that doesn't exist. I'd break it down into ten starting cards, 3 boss fights etc... but you know that you didn't pick up that many cards and win.
Everyone knows it. No way you're even pretending it's an Ironclad run, which makes the entire fairy tale irrelevant.
Moving along, Giannis is exactly right. There's nothing more to be said about it, unless you want to construct a make believe story like our friend Bobby.
More to the point, you start with ten cards, and there's 51 rooms (counting boss fights) so this moron child is obviously lying. In order to have 53 cards he never EVER rested, succeeded at all matches with the goblin memory game etc.
Clown's lying (obviously) so just ignore him. = )
Right, except you lost.
I'm not arguing your ability to accrue every card in the game. It's easily done.
You didn't win because you were holding 25 useless cards on the second boss fight.
Nice try mate. Possible isn't "yo look what I just did."
Hey NL, My run with The Silent went smoothly when I stacked a lot of defense cards and mechanics with poison effects. The silent is meant to be played much slower and way tankier. Also, it is okay to completely tank up and do no dmg for a turn as The Silent in order to save HP and let the poison and other effects do their work.
Hey Egg Dad, love the videos - even if they can be frustratingly bad sometimes
Best series now on his channel
This and isaac is the two series I watch the most
you should be banned from picking trip as you use it extremely poorly
NL applies weak litterly 1 second later "why are we finding it so hard to enable weakness"
good job egg
"I don't have enough defense in the deck"
>Takes the next three attack cards offered after rejecting card removal.
I think NL did pretty great this run! Keep it up, man. Loving the videos
>Take no defensive cards
>Never remove strikes
>"We have literally no blocks"
Never change egg
Nothing like playing Slay the Spire while watching NL play Slay the Spire...
love when egg realise he need block, no block ever show up and he just keep adding attack card into his deck
Heel Hook - "It's so difficult to enable this" he says while there is a weakened enemy right in front of him.
I am 21 minutes in, and I think there has been a misplay on every turn :)
Still, means you can only get better.
It's a great game, and thanks to your videos I bought it last night. I was addicted and was nearly late for work, so I am continuing watching your videos at work just to beat my cravings.
But the misplays hurt my face!! :)
NL is consciously aware of his misplays. That's the first step to recovery.
NL your problem with the Silent is that you pick poison cards, which are sustained damage cards, but no cards to defend yourself like blur or stuff like that. Either you go all out and pick high damage value low defense cards (Die Die Die, Finisher, Choke) like I like to do, or you have to make a suitable build for poison to work in. Not every card that has the poison tag in it is going to be automatically awesome just because it fits with your deck archetype, sometimes you NEED to pick out some cards you really need
I feel Lion’s pain. Nothing I hate more than getting massive debuffs on Champ, only to have him erase them all and just demolish you afterwards.
It will look like I'm shilling but if you think this game looks fun buy it. I'm enjoying it a lot and it's a textbook example of Early Access done right.
I bought this on Xmas because of his videos, and I've already got 44 hours in the game. It's really great!
Lol at 33:11, "Why are we finding it so hard to enable weakness" as he just used sucker punch that turn enabling weakness.... Also do more quick maths NL Choke + Trip + Sucker Punch + Heel Hook was certainly lethal.
I had the most OP run ever when I first came across that boss and he was still able to take half of my max hp so don't feel bad that you lost. Honestly with The Silent, I believe it's best to focus on card draw and card removal if only because I get broken/extremely quick hands whenever I do.
this class its insanely fun and strong with discard synergy, it plays like old school miracle rogue in hearthstone, if you can get your hands on some discard synergy trinkets give discard strat a try.
20:23 Yes it is worth it, if the card is worse than anything in your hand you can discard it and if not you've just improved your hand. The draw is before the discard, as the text on the card reads 'draw' before 'discard'.
"Let's keep heel hook, so maybe we can use it for once" NL said this about 5 times, most of which the enemy was weak...
I hope these comments actually help you, I love watching you get better, but these sub optimal plays really hurts to watch sometimes.
1. NEVER gamble on getting the cards you want from calculated gamble or card draws. If you do, you're lucky, but luck can only get one so far.
2. Please learn to prioritize card order. You keep catching yourself in the middle of the play, and this is leading to extremely inefficient plays with the chokes and trips.
3. CREATE A PLAY STYLE EARLY!!!! This deck was extremely weird. You had a mix of long term damage w/ extremely high burst damage and no defense. If you were going for burst damage never take endless agony and utilities as they just stuff your deck with extra cards. Ignore poison damage and go straight for attacks like riddle with holes and sweeping blades. If you wanted to play the long game, take caltrops, defensive cards like Dodge and Roll/Blur/Escape Plan, and ignore damaging cards in favor for draws to get that crucial block or weaken. Having this mixed bag of a deck led to dips in damage that just didn't kill fast enough and didn't have enough defense to mitigate damage. You also had waaaay too many weakening cards. Imagine if the second neutralize was a noxious fumes+ instead? or take that Sucker Punch and change it into a second bullet time. Look for cards that are crucial to your deck instead of picking the one that helps short term.
4. Know your damage! I feel like this should be number one, but tbh i feel like you already know this NL. Hover the card over the enemy to see the damage that will be dealt to get a more accurate representation of your damage. Also calculate vulnerable if you have cards like trip and weakness. For instance the triple Bird Cultists encounter: First turn 9+9+6+8=32 damage and 8*4=32 Finisher damage so take 49-32=17 then 17-8-9=0 which would have killed the bird with 3 wasted poison damage. The remaining 14 damage could have gone into another bird and saved you 9-12 HP points. (This is also a sub optimal play, but i had to make a quick example)
5. Energy Calculation, draws, and discards: Optimize your plays. The wasted Shiv in the Healer/Defender Fight, the wasted block during the Parasite fight. All these need to be optimized please slow down and calculate.
Always right when you need him
Is anybody internally screaming when he says he doesn't realize every time he says he doesn't weaken an enemy to use Heel Hook, but it turns out the enemy is actually weakened?
Loving the slay the spire stuff patiently waiting for the switch release
Calculated Gamble plus Endless Agony NL!!! You discard 2 endless agony that will return as 4 Endless Agony and get 2 card draw in exchange!
listen here doctor egg, you WILL acquiesce us a double slay the spire upload no matter if you like it or not.
The hand you died with tells such a story about undervaluing card removal. You were stuck with 3 strikes that could do nothing to help you out. I think card draw would have been really strong in that deck.
cant believe this was 5 years ago, i feel like a i was watching the egg learn slay the spire last year
The Huntress is only hard on the first floor. NL, you egg.....stack card drawl, and poison cards. Dont worry about strikes. Like poison stab and noxious fumes are amazing. But focus on defense, and card drawl, and point, and its easy mode.
lmao that misplay on the cultist to still finish him with neutralize, its amazing to watch just for the luck
The only poison card you need to win is Envenom, and then just fill your deck with energy generation and card draw so you can stack it up on enemies by hitting them a dozen times each turn.
*Applies Weakness*
"Man why are we finding it so hard to enable weakness?"
That calculated gamble at 11:38 was DEFINANTLY NOT CALCULATED! Egg pls ur logic is killing me.
i dont undestand how you get so mindflooded playing this, the plays are so obvious
well if u have to comment the whole time it probably is a bit harder to focus
Imagine having a conversation with yourself, while being recorded, and never messing up any of your plays ever. It's already hard enough to self-evaluate because you don't notice the mistakes you make yourself otherwise you wouldn't have made them in the first place.
I know it feels good to attack someone you respect but saying stuff like this just sorta shows us how much of a dick you can be.
TankorSmash You just voice your thoughts out loud. It's not as if he is talking about something completely different while playing.
It's really not that hard. I stream all the time. He's not exactly talking about something unrelated. I dunno where everyone got the idea that narrating what you're doing and why is so brain numbing.
It isn't.
You just vocalize what you're thinking.
Now if he was debating salad dressings on a per lettuce basis, or playing marry/fuck/kill I could see the argument. He's not.
Oh, it's must be *such* a hard thing to do, I can barely contain the tears in my eyes.
There's no need to whiteknight for the egg, he can take the criticism (or deflect) fine by himself.
4:12 'You have a card full of 7 hands'
Loving the series a lot, got a little bored with isaac so this is a really nice change of pace as I love you as a youtuber. Are you planning on doing a civ 6 run through?
that end was tragic, it hurt me physically
*My ExPeCtAtIoNs HaVe BeEn SuBvErTeD*
you should pick up the cards before the relic on the loot window when the relic upgrades cards
4:11 "A card full of seven hands"
Fantastic series, keep it up!
NL if you're going to go poison with the silent you should also go defense.
I feel like NL underuses cards like Endless Agony. It seems to me they're better late game because they duplicate themselves when you draw them, so it's better to use them as discard outlets or save them for later so you can just play out like 10 endless agonies in one explosive turn and should spend the rest of your turns setting up vulnerable or buffing strength so you can deal more damage with them.
Based on what I've seen of both classes from NL, the Ironclad's innate of healing after each combat seems WAAAY stronger than Silent's. Maybe if Silent drew an extra card every turn or gained extra gold after each battle to balance out the IC's constant, free resource replenishment.
You actually played good this time NL. Kudos!
Im actually so happy that he loses just barely after losing health in dumb ways. That Egg's gotta learn
Enables weakness... Immediately after "Man finding it really hard to enable weakness" lmao
That boss fight cleanse legit triggered me lol
04:11 "A card full of seven hands"
Even though he lost.. Im sensing improvement LET'S GO. Thanks for the vid NL
I'm kinda amazed how you accidentally yourself into winning with misplays so far into a run...
me when I subbed: I like this guy, he's rational, witty, and charismatic
me after watching him slay the spire: for fuck's sake, nl, think before you act
The name of the game is relics. It builds so much synergy around your cards. Try and save up gold for the relics at shops and it should go by much more smoothly. Great vids tho!
Yay more Slire the Slay
Stacking Footworks is the easiest path to victory as the Hunter.
Okay, not gonna lie. Even if NL does make some bad plays, the fact that the boss can just instantly shrug off all bad effects like that is sort of bullshit.
Wow he beat the book of stabbing that thing is really deadly gets an extra hit each turn and wounds each turn it wrecks defensive teams
Only the fight with the birds made me scream at my screen this time. Progress!
at about 22:00, you should have focused on the main enemy while blocking since that enemy type makes more enemy's. it makes your situation worse to not attack the main enemy since you risk not drawing block on a turn in an attack focused deck.
LITERALLY EVERY ATTACK IS BETTER THAN A STRIKE, NL
“A card full of seven hands”
At the very least you have internalized upping your dexterity before blocking, this is good progress. However, skipping the second footwork card (dex +2) was a foolish move in my opinion. For 1 energy, you improve all of your blocks by +2 for the rest of combat. That kind of effect is worth having around multiple times, especially when it comes to longer fights like elite encounters and boss enemies.
As you yourself stated a few times in the episode however, turn order is something you still need to work on, particularly with cards like Choke that have special effects that activate upon playing subsequent cards. I find it much easier to keep things in mind by doing the gameplay equivalent of rubber duck programming, explain the order of events verbally before you play out your hand, including every extra effect that should take place when you play a card, and finish off by explaining the cards that you're *not* using and why. If you do this enough for a while it gets easier to organize turn order in your head. Keep a calculator on hand if you don't want to do math in your head, because doing the math can mean the difference between victory and defeat in this game.
Lastly, you're running into block problems because you're letting your decks get too big my dude. 30 should be the absolute upper limit for a deck, and if you find yourself approaching that number, you should endeavor to get rid of some base strikes or defends.
"We need some more defense" right after deciding not to play 2 dexterity
The Champ! Undefeated baby!
When he plans to use choke and then doesn't use it as a first card it hurts my soul.
A book of stabbing? Now that's a paper cut!