Hey NL, at the 23 minute mark you could go for an attack, ticking the transform from 1 to 0. This stops the boss from attacking you, instead making him go defensive mode
Mad streak: 2 "oh yea, i fought this guy. lets not transform him and disable his 29 damage attack" UPD: oh yea, who cares about a free energy every turn
@@crazytoot I was thinking the same many times already. I mean stupid plays... it happens, it happens to me too sometimes, but what he's doing thats just... It has to be on purpose.
NL is probably one of the most intelligent people I've had the pleasure to watch, but the fact that he makes such poor decisions in tactical games boggles my mind.
didom lol I feel the exact same way. His experience in rougelikes gives him some pretty out of the box ideas, but he forgets the simplist things when he misplays
Well, the thing is, he is extremely illogical. He just got the most crazy memory for facts. In this game it shows really well that he can memorize the way a card works in a split second but he can't for the love of me create nor understand good tactics.
That explains it pretty well. Imo he should slow down his gameplay and just think like 5 more seconds before making his plays. As you said it he can memorise and understand how a card works, but plays them in a suboptimal order, for example upgrading a debuff only to apply it to an enemy that resists debuffs, or applying vulnerability after he makes all the attacks on the enemy. I know its easy to spot mistakes when some1 else is playing, but i rly want him to do well and enjoy the game more.
immediately misses lethal and takes damage on the first fight. Strap in boys, its going to be a long night "any time we can make him deal 0 damage...." He says as he misses the ability to make him transition twice, and takes a bunch of damage instead... please....
@Northernlion The Guardian boss has a buff that shows how much damage it can take before transforming. This is really useful because when he transforms it interrupts his current attack for the thorns buff. So in your fight with him he needed 1 damage to transform, but instead you played duel wield. He had 9 armour and your strike dealt 10 damage because of your strength. That would of made him transform saving you the 20 damage. Also I've noticed that the first thing you do on a turn is try to block damage instead of thinking if you can hit lethal. In one of your first fights in this episode you could of killed the enemy with 3 strikes each dealing 9 damage because the enemy was vulnerable. That would of been enough to kill it, but instead you played 2 defends first then looked at what damage you could do.
Oh man his second elite fight was even more painful than first. With shell elite you can prepare for first 3 turns, for example disarm and then start next turn with the Bash + attack, it's so much value and looking at how egglord just scrapes off a little bit of Shell's defend and wakes it up... It's too much.
He doesn't know, he doesn't play enough off camera (which to be honest he should just record anyway... he can upload and render from any other computer in the house). We've ALL got much more experience in the game at this point, and it's going to be magnified by every session. He doesn't play for a few days at a time, while we keep improving. Gotta get those Isaac runs in. I haven't watched an Isaac video since before he restarted, that's how incredibly boring I find that to be at this point. Thank god he decided to only post up one video a day.
The wounds can be run ending when you're running a build that is dependent on Clash, unlike other curses that can be gotten rid of, while HP increases are easy to come by if you're lucky enough with room's and Feed draw.
He's specifically not taking clash anymore after what happened last time. He considers it a low tier card now, because he lost the run by picking mark of pain. Incidentally, he also considers mark of pain low tier for the same course of events.
And here i am starting the video with faith that he improved. Thank you very fucking much :I Edit: Didn't matter too much but it shows that he still doesn't pay attention to detail. He could probably play another 500 hours of this game and he'd get yelled at for not realising basic mechanics. Eggs usually do egg things. It's a way of life.
yea though i do wish the cards changed to reflect the damage they are going to do if there is only one enemy left who is vulnerable, i know you can hover over but checking multiple cards later on can get annoying
+Teal Do you? I think that the way it's now is good. Making it change like that would break the consistence. It's easier to just remember: the enemy is vulnerable? That's 50(75)% more damage.
If the enemy you want to hit is vulnerable, you just add 50% to the value of whatever card you're hitting him/her/it with. I understand that you're capable of calculating that but even then. How is that annoying ... That doesn't even need allocated brain power. It just gets resolved in your head. If you're driving around in a car you don't think about shifting, you just do it. Same principle here. I don't see the big deal honestly.
Pick the card that lets him keep his block, amazing for blocksynergy cards. Then goes on to pick the relic that draws a card when he takes damage. DANG nl i rly enjoy watching u play:)
If he picked up Body Slam and Combustion (two cards you really shouldn't ever pass on to be honest) he'd have a phenomenal deck right now, with offense and defensive synergies. He doesn't know enough about the game to build anything reasonable right now, and we're just watching him stumble around and learn to walk, while the rest of us are running marathons.
Of the relics he chose, the cube is the worst imo. I like mark of pain the most for the energy and there is a case for the feather. Also, I believe that you need more energy to make the cube more useful
He misplays every fight, which I guess is an improvement. Before his last stream game he was misplaying almost every turn, so it's at least showing progress. Those plays are going to get him killed on future floors though. Level 2 enemies are almost on par with elites, and level 2 elites are almost on par with the boss fights. He's doomed on level 3 with this deck, unless he gets some really good relics and reformulates his deck with a lot of speed. He needs to remove a lot of cards to have a chance, and he really hates doing that.
Yea. It's definitely part of the charm for sure. I pull my hair out as he makes super obvious misplays and then cheer out loud when he manages to pull a kill out of his butt. It's the series I watch every day without fail
Nl, you should really pay more attention on relics. Your deck average cost is between 1.5 and 2 with lots of card draw. The boss relic that gave you energy would have been so good.
24:10 "The Ironclad has so much room to play around with." - The guys that barely scratched the surface of what the silent is capable of. It will probably take you like 50 hours instead of the 5-10 that other people need but if you get a handle on a good silent deck. Oh boy you're gonna learn ...
Removing Strikes and Defends isn't bold at all. It's what you're supposed to do. For the Ironclad, remove Defend first, because you have Perfected Strike and Clash. (and also there is the chance of an event which removes your Strikes anyway) For the Silent, remove Strike first, because you have Escape Plan, Fletchettes and Burst.
You are noticeably improving! Your runs are still laden with misplays, but fewer :) Edit: Nevermind , I made this comment before the bossfight. What the hell was that mess?
So instead of dealing 10 damage and gaining 4 strength while preventing all damage from the boss via mode shift you block for 8, gain 4 strength and take 21 damage. Step up your game NL.
This is coming from someone who loves NL, but I literally fucking can’t watch these videos. After the 3rd atrocious misplay I just stop and go into the comments to see all the other dumb shit he did in the episode. Egg, please just think for 2 fucking seconds. It pisses me off so damn much. At least watch sleepcycles play who I KNOW you respect and enjoy watching so you can learn how to play this freaking game. This would probably be my favorite series on his channel right now if the videos didn’t actually make me want to stab a fork into my jugular. Also is this replacing Enter the Gungeon?
Noah Bobrow I’ve been watching sleep cycles play this too. Who actually is smart when it comes to video games...unlike NL. Who just dispenses references and rushes games
During the first boss fight he could have saved so much time if he noticed that the boss takes 40 damage in attack mode and then switches to defense mode, he wouldn't have to worry about some attacks like the first 29 damage attack because it would have switched to defense mode.
4:18 Is an example of a turn where if you looked at the cards in your draw pile and thought about the likelihood of getting enough strikes, you could play bash and defend knowing you would probably kill next turn. Not that it's necessarily the correct play, but I think you'd looking at your draw pile and predicting potential draws would help you a lot.
He's mentioned before he considers that "cheating," which to some degree I'd agree with, if he bothered to try to keep track of what he's played and hasn't played yet. I use it all the time, BTW... so I'm hardly agreeing with him.
It's a game function. It's like crying about throws in a fighter, or radar in most FPS. I know a guy who plays Overwatch and turns the killfeed off because he thinks that means he's a better player. The reality is he's trash as he's missing valuable information literally everyone else has. It's objectively better to have the killfeed, like it's objectively better to check discard/draw.
I know it didn't matter but I can't believe you chose to block 4 damage while having 50+ hp in a fight you fully heal after instead of dealing 42 damage.
Also the egg elite, you know you don't have to wake him up the first turn. If you don't do damage you can run some turns without waking him up to build up you own status affects.
Hey NL I hope you read this at some point, for Ironclad Rampage is a must have everytime, it gets better and better, everytime you see it there is no shame in grabbing it, shrug it off is a strickly better block so grabbing it is almost always good, and combust is so broken it applys that damage every turn and like you said you get HP back all the time so that damage is great, otherwise keep doing what you're doing, a few tips keep up the content
Shrug it off, while being a great card, will put you into the large, defensive deck trap. It's objectively bad to take something because it's a "slightly better block/strike." you never need to pick up cards because they're a little better than what you have.
Right, but the thing is, it's not better "enough" than a regular defend. He does indeed take way too many cards, I rarely finish a run with more than twenty five or so, but often it's better to remove strikes first and focus on offense, and it's ALWAYS better to grab a relic or two and remove the curses than it is to drop a defend for a "slightly better defend." = )
Oh yes but we are touching on another bad habit of him having no respect for the mystery spots, so he rarely gets curses, however I pose that we agree to disagree as I see merit in your thought process
See, the thing is he learned on the stream that the "?" are always better than regular combat. I'm not at all sure why he's debating internally still. It seems that when he takes any kind of break from the game he loses a huge chunk of knowledge that he gained last time. It's like KSP all over again, only with slightly larger baby steps forward and slightly smaller leaps backwards.
Hey NL, at 18:37 you should use battle trance first and then armaments. An upgraded armaments only upgrades cards held in hand, so you could have upgraded more at one time.
10:10 Here’s a tip. You can stall for two turns to apply any debuffs or buffs and not wake the elite up as long as you deal 8 or less damage. Also never use explosion potion or fire potion unless it kills or halves slimes.
The gremlins (for example) are also valid uses for the potion, and so is stopping a huge attack from a single enemy. You're not wrong in theory, just in practice.
The gremlins? Sorry I don't know all the enemy names. Also yeah I should've said "stuns an enemy" instead of halving slimes since that is what I had intended. Good call.
Absplutely disgusting choice of relic at the end. Pick up a mad expensive but amazing card in barricade then turn down an extra energy permenantly for 2 wounds thats can be removed.....
Unfortunately, the wounds can't be removed, since they get added at the start of combat, so they don't exist when you'd be in a position to remove them. You can exhaust them, but NL doesn't have any cards that enable that.
Epsilon Rose Yeah true actually, for me though i would really like to enable that extra energy for that sweet barricade play, might be partly because i dont get to have a good synergy to make it work often.
NL cards that hit all enemies are the best attack cards in the game, just bc even against one enemy they deal more than a strike, and they help in all other situations aswell
NL's deck building abilities have improved greatly! He is picking and upgrade the correct cards now (correct is subjective, but at least he isn't making blatant mistakes). However, NL's tactical play, choice of route and relics (every other aspect of play) are still terrible :(
menpower1... nope. He passed on Combustion, Body Slam, and made bad upgrade choices still. He also rested when he didn't need to, which I guess falls under the category of tactical play... but the point is while he improved a LOT, going from 0/10 to 3/10 is still just very, very painful to watch. Passing on those two cards BTW, while picking up the Cube and Barricade is awful, awful play, especially in regards to deck building. That's just my observations though, and I'm approaching 30 hours in game, so maybe I'm still too new and missing other obvious synergies, but he's hardly improving enough to get excited. I think his poor pathing choices are reflective of his desire to buy relics and cards at shops, rather than being able to remove cards. That's a simple one to one, when he learns how key removal is we'll stop seeing him dodge early shops (when he should remove at least two cards on the first floor).
NL: I think it's really hard to recover HP in this game NL at the end of the video: oh this relic will heal me whenever I get to a campfire that's really good...but screw that.
i let out a long sigh when he didnt attack the boss to stop the 28 damage. then again, i should be used to this.. regardless of silly mistakes, keep it up man. i just hope you're reading the comments for tips, and the criticism.
NL, try to consider skipping card rewards. Often times deck size is much more important than a "slightly better defend/strike." This is especially true later in the game if your deck has a strong synergy.
Check out the beta build mate. More cards, more relics, more enemies, it's incredibly stable etc... it's gonna be the next release anyway I think. Much more content, fewer bugs, no drawbacks at all.
Perfected Strike is literally amazing. Just keep picking up cards with the word Strike and its Damage Increases. Was doing over 60 Damage at one point with one hit!
NL pls keep the series going, it's 8/10, -2 for various mistakes. That being said, once you get used to the math, you'll reign Supreme egg lord in this.
Okay so chat in this game just echos advice which is commonly heard in other card games which may not be applicable in this game, health is not just a resource in this game because their is no board you can easily encounter situations where you have to take damage which is why you should pay attention to your health some in this game, however you also can do sometimes make decisions which are too cautious of your hp consider it heals to full at the end of each level.
The mode shifts are all interrupts. You could have killed him a lot sooner and avoided damage by paying attention to how much damage was left before mode change.
Egg needs to learn the bosses; mainly that shifting modes and splitting interrupts attacks. Also there are like 3/4 playstyles to the Iron Clad that I know of which work: 1.Super aggro taking hard hitting high value cards whiling maintaining vulnerability 2.Stacking Strikes and going full berserker on that sheet 3. Becoming a wall with Entrench and an Upgraded body slam 4. Burnt branch corruption runs with all the skills (real interesting to see what the game gives you) Anything I missed I'm sure you lads will correct me.
There's decent hybrids as well (for example Body Slam is always good, you WILL be blocking, and upgraded it's free damage), there's also the "heal" play, with bloody idol, black blood, Bites etc... and you can use things like combustion and the cube without sacrificing anything in the way of HP. A couple upgraded metalicize will allow you to focus completely on offense with your cards, so the "heal" style is also a bit of a hybrid, if you get lucky with cards and relics. I had a snecko run recently too, where I traded my starting burning blood for snecko. That's an interesting run in itself, since you don't need to EVER worry about picking up 3 energy cards, since that's the idea. Grab mark of pain and you're off to an easy win most of the time.
NLs weakness is that he plays every game like Isaac, he rushes everything. He rushes reading in undertale and he rushes thinking in this game. If he just slowed down and thought about the game instead of treating it like a chore to play he’d do well
He's been treating everything he plays since like 2011 that's NOT on the NLSS as a chore to play. He really ought to just cut his TH-cam output down, and run a fourth stream night, it likely makes him more money, and he's happier doing it.
NL I wont bash on you here for missing lethal or anything but especially on the early levels a few values are interesting to keep in mind. 3 Strikes on a vulnerable enemy deal 27 damage. 3 Strikes on a normal target deal 18. Keep in mind, that you sometimes dont want any card they offer you. Just skip the card then. It will keep your deck potent. I also recommend trying out a "Perfected Strike" build: Skip everything that doesnt give you strength, Energy or is called "Perfected Strike". You will see yourself deal 50 damage instances on the first boss every turn if you can pull that off
Dude, this lets play is awesome! Don't worry about going too slow, worry about doing it right :) On the other hand, remember that you heal up to full HP after boss fights, so don't hesitate so much on bosses, especially on the first floor.
Yo yo. My ol' papa used to say "haraka, haraka, haina baraka", which is Swahili and can be translated as "slow, slow, is the way to go", but I mean it to mean, don't let viewers push you into making mistakes because they want a faster video.
Literally no one said to go faster. He's talking about "slow play" not playing slowly. I.E. turtling up and not taking damage, rather than taking some hits to speed up the fight (in turns). Literally everyone is telling him to slow down and read the screen mate... even in Swahili.
"health is a resource and hard to come by" passes on reaper at the end, arguably the single strongest card in the game because of it's ability to get you hp back. passes on feather, because i can't even. barricade is bad and you should feel bad.
I picked up this game because of you (and Trump - the Hearthstone variety). I gained the Ruby achievement by stacking strength and using *Heavy Blade* . A good strat, it seems, is to grab a few *Strength potions/cards (Power)* then use an *UPGRADED Limit Break* . Give preference card pick to *Headbutt* which will allow you to gain stupid amounts of strength (apparently max = 999) by cycling *Limit Break* ad nauseam. This will allow for a devastating *Heavy Blade* attack (max = 5009). You'll want to pick up *Iron Weave* for defense; *Impervious* and *Barricade* are an especially amazing combo. *Reaper* , if you can get it, will allow you to stay topped off allowing you to be productive at rest sites rather than healing. It goes without saying that any of the aforementioned cards are better upgraded but the only one that is a must for this strat is *Limit Break* ... use it once and it will change your StS experience! Good luck, NL ... wish you the best in future games.
Post script ... you're really going to have read the buffs/debuffs/attributes of the stuff your fighting. 23:00 you could have avoided 21 damage by doing 10 damage (10 = 9 block + 1 hp) to the boss. He cancels his attack to shift modes.
23:30 "We could use our energy potion." Egg daddy you've lost it. You need to stop playing this game, what energy potion. When Egg daddy finds his energy potion, I will return.
Hey NL, at the 23 minute mark you could go for an attack, ticking the transform from 1 to 0. This stops the boss from attacking you, instead making him go defensive mode
Elegost i wante to cry
thanks Alphys
Yup. deal 10 damage, avoid 26 damage. Nope, block for 5 instead! :P
Just one of many misplays.
Mad streak: 2
"oh yea, i fought this guy. lets not transform him and disable his 29 damage attack"
UPD: oh yea, who cares about a free energy every turn
Bash for 10 the enemy with 10health? No thanks, I prefer to waste it on an enemy that I can't kill without wasting a card and an energy.
It worries me that many people watching don't see many of the misplays.
Deal 27 damage to the enemy with 16 health and 6 shield?
I'd rather block actually
bash 10 health slime disarm+ the other one which only does 3 damage essentially negating two enemies ... "nahhhhh"
*Bash deals 10 damage, green slime has 10 hp* "We can't kill with one hit anyway."
Talks about getting roasted for slow playing then on first encounter makes a slow play that costs 4 damage instead of an easy kill shot.
Welcome back to northernlion misplays the spire
How is every instinct he has wrong. I think he has to be trolling. Its just not possible to misplay this much.
@@crazytoot I was thinking the same many times already. I mean stupid plays... it happens, it happens to me too sometimes, but what he's doing thats just... It has to be on purpose.
NL is probably one of the most intelligent people I've had the pleasure to watch, but the fact that he makes such poor decisions in tactical games boggles my mind.
didom lol I feel the exact same way. His experience in rougelikes gives him some pretty out of the box ideas, but he forgets the simplist things when he misplays
Well, the thing is, he is extremely illogical. He just got the most crazy memory for facts. In this game it shows really well that he can memorize the way a card works in a split second but he can't for the love of me create nor understand good tactics.
Wisecrack. Check them out if you want to see actually intelligent people on TH-cam.
That explains it pretty well. Imo he should slow down his gameplay and just think like 5 more seconds before making his plays. As you said it he can memorise and understand how a card works, but plays them in a suboptimal order, for example upgrading a debuff only to apply it to an enemy that resists debuffs, or applying vulnerability after he makes all the attacks on the enemy. I know its easy to spot mistakes when some1 else is playing, but i rly want him to do well and enjoy the game more.
immediately misses lethal and takes damage on the first fight. Strap in boys, its going to be a long night
"any time we can make him deal 0 damage...." He says as he misses the ability to make him transition twice, and takes a bunch of damage instead... please....
the secret of NorthenLion gameplay is that it's him commentating on someone else playing the game /s
Jeroz.... I'd watch that in a heartbeat.
18:43 Why would you armaments before drawing?! Omg egg you are killing me here
It's because he's a literal egg and thinks Armaments + Upgrades all cards. He either can't read or he is too full of himself.
Thanks Alphys
Smexy Beast Or he is trying to maintain decent commentary while playing a game.
god damnit
He actually wanted to upgrade battle trance, he thinks it's "so good" but it's just one more card and drawing before armaments would've been better.
@Northernlion
The Guardian boss has a buff that shows how much damage it can take before transforming. This is really useful because when he transforms it interrupts his current attack for the thorns buff. So in your fight with him he needed 1 damage to transform, but instead you played duel wield. He had 9 armour and your strike dealt 10 damage because of your strength. That would of made him transform saving you the 20 damage.
Also I've noticed that the first thing you do on a turn is try to block damage instead of thinking if you can hit lethal. In one of your first fights in this episode you could of killed the enemy with 3 strikes each dealing 9 damage because the enemy was vulnerable. That would of been enough to kill it, but instead you played 2 defends first then looked at what damage you could do.
Everyone is thinking it, Im just saying it: cancel Oxygen and double Slay the Spire
LETS DUCKING GO
I was watching ONI until he restarted. Sadly I would also enjoy two slay the spires a day.
Cancel everything but rainbow six siege and Slay the Spire
Suuri Tuhoaja NL will die of saltiness, and so will we...
But what a glorious death it will be!
These videos are immensely enjoyable, misplays or not. Thanks for the consistently good content NL!
NL you can remove curses in shops and it is not that bad to have some curses in the 1 place
Vanderon thanks Alphys
MunsOsl
There's being Alphys and there's telling someone not to jump off a bridge. This is the bridge.
Oh man his second elite fight was even more painful than first. With shell elite you can prepare for first 3 turns, for example disarm and then start next turn with the Bash + attack, it's so much value and looking at how egglord just scrapes off a little bit of Shell's defend and wakes it up... It's too much.
He doesn't know, he doesn't play enough off camera (which to be honest he should just record anyway... he can upload and render from any other computer in the house).
We've ALL got much more experience in the game at this point, and it's going to be magnified by every session. He doesn't play for a few days at a time, while we keep improving. Gotta get those Isaac runs in.
I haven't watched an Isaac video since before he restarted, that's how incredibly boring I find that to be at this point. Thank god he decided to only post up one video a day.
I think part of the fun of this series is watching NL crit-fail every common sense roll he makes.
AAAAAAAAA The absolute madman chose Runic Cube instead of Mark of Pain jesus christ HIGH T PLAYS
thanks Alphys
The wounds can be run ending when you're running a build that is dependent on Clash, unlike other curses that can be gotten rid of, while HP increases are easy to come by if you're lucky enough with room's and Feed draw.
He's specifically not taking clash anymore after what happened last time. He considers it a low tier card now, because he lost the run by picking mark of pain. Incidentally, he also considers mark of pain low tier for the same course of events.
just don't take clash if u have mark of pain. There is even a power for drawing 1 (upgraded: 2) cards whenever u get a wound.
Dude he just needed 1 damage to mode shift and he would be able hit you and he had 9 block you could not get hit that time on the boss
thanks Alphys
1:40 in and he already missed lethal.
Edit. It doesn't get any better in this departament :-0
And here i am starting the video with faith that he improved.
Thank you very fucking much :I
Edit: Didn't matter too much but it shows that he still doesn't pay attention to detail.
He could probably play another 500 hours of this game and he'd get yelled at for not realising basic mechanics.
Eggs usually do egg things. It's a way of life.
yea though i do wish the cards changed to reflect the damage they are going to do if there is only one enemy left who is vulnerable, i know you can hover over but checking multiple cards later on can get annoying
ATK cards change when you hover over enemies to select them for the attack. Egg just hasn't realized this yet.
+Teal Do you? I think that the way it's now is good. Making it change like that would break the consistence.
It's easier to just remember: the enemy is vulnerable? That's 50(75)% more damage.
If the enemy you want to hit is vulnerable, you just add 50% to the value of whatever card you're hitting him/her/it with.
I understand that you're capable of calculating that but even then. How is that annoying ...
That doesn't even need allocated brain power. It just gets resolved in your head.
If you're driving around in a car you don't think about shifting, you just do it.
Same principle here. I don't see the big deal honestly.
“Explosion is not a debuff, it’s a way of life”
- Northernlion 2018
NL if you play battle trance before armaments + you upgrade more cards in your deck at once. Love the series keep it up
Pick the card that lets him keep his block, amazing for blocksynergy cards. Then goes on to pick the relic that draws a card when he takes damage. DANG nl i rly enjoy watching u play:)
If he picked up Body Slam and Combustion (two cards you really shouldn't ever pass on to be honest) he'd have a phenomenal deck right now, with offense and defensive synergies.
He doesn't know enough about the game to build anything reasonable right now, and we're just watching him stumble around and learn to walk, while the rest of us are running marathons.
Of the relics he chose, the cube is the worst imo. I like mark of pain the most for the energy and there is a case for the feather. Also, I believe that you need more energy to make the cube more useful
Honest to god, this series makes me foam at the mouth like a lunatic
Every time I watch an episode of NL playing this game I feel like I need to play a run myself so I can do it properly
It's insidious. He makes me buy games because I hate watching how poorly he plays just so that I can see it played well...
That misplay on the first boss.. He doesn't attack if you force him to transform. Geez
He misplays every fight, which I guess is an improvement. Before his last stream game he was misplaying almost every turn, so it's at least showing progress.
Those plays are going to get him killed on future floors though. Level 2 enemies are almost on par with elites, and level 2 elites are almost on par with the boss fights.
He's doomed on level 3 with this deck, unless he gets some really good relics and reformulates his deck with a lot of speed. He needs to remove a lot of cards to have a chance, and he really hates doing that.
Part of me loves the fact that you make these wild misplays, so really, do whatever and I'll be happy.
I slay my spire while watching Egg-daddy play Slay the Spire :)
HardHatCat your comment is hornier than nl twitch chat
This was uncomfortably lewd
I very nearly liked this but I realised that there’s 69 likes
Jake Hayes 74 now so might as well like it
Hey NL. On the ocarina crabs if you don't break the shield it stays asleep for like 2 or 3 turns.
Love the series but the misplays kill me
You should stop watching NL then. He freely admits he's kinda bad at games.
Dont get me wrong. Just because it kills me, doesnt mean I dont love it
Yea. It's definitely part of the charm for sure. I pull my hair out as he makes super obvious misplays and then cheer out loud when he manages to pull a kill out of his butt. It's the series I watch every day without fail
the egghead assimilation process
Jeroz were too far gone... save yourself
i would like longer episodes
Nl, you should really pay more attention on relics. Your deck average cost is between 1.5 and 2 with lots of card draw. The boss relic that gave you energy would have been so good.
24:10 "The Ironclad has so much room to play around with." - The guys that barely scratched the surface of what the silent is capable of.
It will probably take you like 50 hours instead of the 5-10 that other people need but if you get a handle on a good silent deck. Oh boy you're gonna learn ...
I don't know why but when he took runic cube instead of mark of pain my heart kind of stopped
I know exactly why. = )
Removing Strikes and Defends isn't bold at all. It's what you're supposed to do.
For the Ironclad, remove Defend first, because you have Perfected Strike and Clash. (and also there is the chance of an event which removes your Strikes anyway)
For the Silent, remove Strike first, because you have Escape Plan, Fletchettes and Burst.
You are noticeably improving! Your runs are still laden with misplays, but fewer :)
Edit: Nevermind , I made this comment before the bossfight. What the hell was that mess?
ShadowNukePie yeah, I lost faith in humanity on this run
NL.... when you hover an attack over the enemy it will show you exactly how much dmg it will do ( if they are vulnerable for ex.)
So instead of dealing 10 damage and gaining 4 strength while preventing all damage from the boss via mode shift you block for 8, gain 4 strength and take 21 damage. Step up your game NL.
This is coming from someone who loves NL, but I literally fucking can’t watch these videos. After the 3rd atrocious misplay I just stop and go into the comments to see all the other dumb shit he did in the episode. Egg, please just think for 2 fucking seconds. It pisses me off so damn much. At least watch sleepcycles play who I KNOW you respect and enjoy watching so you can learn how to play this freaking game. This would probably be my favorite series on his channel right now if the videos didn’t actually make me want to stab a fork into my jugular. Also is this replacing Enter the Gungeon?
Noah Bobrow I’ve been watching sleep cycles play this too. Who actually is smart when it comes to video games...unlike NL. Who just dispenses references and rushes games
sleepcycles first few games are just as tough to watch. The secret? Sleepcycles learns from playing. = )
IamI3rian pretty much lol
NL: Think I need some more attacks in this deck.
Also NL: *Proceeds to take another block*
Hey Ryab, spiky boss boi shows when he will transform on his buff/de-buff bar. Loving this NL plays series!
Missing lethal in first fight has become quite the tradition
Read the status on boss please, you are making it much harder than it's supposed to be
this is the greatest series of all time.
I fucking love the Beatles man, 18 seconds in and already pumped up
My expectations have been fufilled. Bad plays everywhere. EVERYWHERE!!!
During the first boss fight he could have saved so much time if he noticed that the boss takes 40 damage in attack mode and then switches to defense mode, he wouldn't have to worry about some attacks like the first 29 damage attack because it would have switched to defense mode.
i was bashing egg on his plays without playing the game then I decided to play it and I can still say that egg boy has a lot to learn
Also Armaments+ is incredibly good and I’m happy you took it.
"Explosion is not a debuff, it's a way of life." - Did NL just make a Konosuba Megumin Reference?
4:18
Is an example of a turn where if you looked at the cards in your draw pile and thought about the likelihood of getting enough strikes, you could play bash and defend knowing you would probably kill next turn. Not that it's necessarily the correct play, but I think you'd looking at your draw pile and predicting potential draws would help you a lot.
He's mentioned before he considers that "cheating," which to some degree I'd agree with, if he bothered to try to keep track of what he's played and hasn't played yet.
I use it all the time, BTW... so I'm hardly agreeing with him.
IamI3rian yeah I don’t get that on a single player game
It's a game function. It's like crying about throws in a fighter, or radar in most FPS. I know a guy who plays Overwatch and turns the killfeed off because he thinks that means he's a better player. The reality is he's trash as he's missing valuable information literally everyone else has.
It's objectively better to have the killfeed, like it's objectively better to check discard/draw.
Misplays on the very first encounter. Beautiful.
I know it didn't matter but I can't believe you chose to block 4 damage while having 50+ hp in a fight you fully heal after instead of dealing 42 damage.
Would've interrupted the attack too mate.
Also the egg elite, you know you don't have to wake him up the first turn. If you don't do damage you can run some turns without waking him up to build up you own status affects.
I’m always surprised when the episode ends. 27 minutes is so short for my lust
Exhaust can be used on unplayable cards, such as wounds for example. No need to think about only your own cards.
I really enjoy these episodes. Also, what a cool game
Hey NL I hope you read this at some point, for Ironclad Rampage is a must have everytime, it gets better and better, everytime you see it there is no shame in grabbing it, shrug it off is a strickly better block so grabbing it is almost always good, and combust is so broken it applys that damage every turn and like you said you get HP back all the time so that damage is great, otherwise keep doing what you're doing, a few tips keep up the content
Shrug it off, while being a great card, will put you into the large, defensive deck trap.
It's objectively bad to take something because it's a "slightly better block/strike." you never need to pick up cards because they're a little better than what you have.
IamI3rian well that's what card removal is for take a shrug it off remove a regular block, NL takes too many cards in general
Right, but the thing is, it's not better "enough" than a regular defend.
He does indeed take way too many cards, I rarely finish a run with more than twenty five or so, but often it's better to remove strikes first and focus on offense, and it's ALWAYS better to grab a relic or two and remove the curses than it is to drop a defend for a "slightly better defend." = )
Oh yes but we are touching on another bad habit of him having no respect for the mystery spots, so he rarely gets curses, however I pose that we agree to disagree as I see merit in your thought process
See, the thing is he learned on the stream that the "?" are always better than regular combat. I'm not at all sure why he's debating internally still. It seems that when he takes any kind of break from the game he loses a huge chunk of knowledge that he gained last time. It's like KSP all over again, only with slightly larger baby steps forward and slightly smaller leaps backwards.
Hey NL, at 18:37 you should use battle trance first and then armaments. An upgraded armaments only upgrades cards held in hand, so you could have upgraded more at one time.
10:10
Here’s a tip. You can stall for two turns to apply any debuffs or buffs and not wake the elite up as long as you deal 8 or less damage.
Also never use explosion potion or fire potion unless it kills or halves slimes.
The gremlins (for example) are also valid uses for the potion, and so is stopping a huge attack from a single enemy. You're not wrong in theory, just in practice.
The gremlins? Sorry I don't know all the enemy names. Also yeah I should've said "stuns an enemy" instead of halving slimes since that is what I had intended. Good call.
Absplutely disgusting choice of relic at the end. Pick up a mad expensive but amazing card in barricade then turn down an extra energy permenantly for 2 wounds thats can be removed.....
Unfortunately, the wounds can't be removed, since they get added at the start of combat, so they don't exist when you'd be in a position to remove them. You can exhaust them, but NL doesn't have any cards that enable that.
Epsilon Rose Yeah true actually, for me though i would really like to enable that extra energy for that sweet barricade play, might be partly because i dont get to have a good synergy to make it work often.
Jordan Clayton thanks Alphys
Barricade upgraded only costs 2 so it’s playable for sure
Epsilon Rose true, still he chose the wrong relic. Extra energy is always good
Despite all of egg's misplays (and boy are there a lot) I do genuinely love this series so much!! I hope it'll go on for a long time 🙂
NL cards that hit all enemies are the best attack cards in the game, just bc even against one enemy they deal more than a strike, and they help in all other situations aswell
NL's deck building abilities have improved greatly! He is picking and upgrade the correct cards now (correct is subjective, but at least he isn't making blatant mistakes).
However, NL's tactical play, choice of route and relics (every other aspect of play) are still terrible :(
menpower1 yup, I’m actually just gonna stop watching until his next recording session probably at least. I can’t take it anymore
menpower1... nope. He passed on Combustion, Body Slam, and made bad upgrade choices still. He also rested when he didn't need to, which I guess falls under the category of tactical play... but the point is while he improved a LOT, going from 0/10 to 3/10 is still just very, very painful to watch.
Passing on those two cards BTW, while picking up the Cube and Barricade is awful, awful play, especially in regards to deck building. That's just my observations though, and I'm approaching 30 hours in game, so maybe I'm still too new and missing other obvious synergies, but he's hardly improving enough to get excited.
I think his poor pathing choices are reflective of his desire to buy relics and cards at shops, rather than being able to remove cards. That's a simple one to one, when he learns how key removal is we'll stop seeing him dodge early shops (when he should remove at least two cards on the first floor).
the silent needs an evade card tbh, like where you completely dodge one attack
That would be super OP.
Like i get it for roleplaying sake, but lets be real it would be super unfair
> Watch NL play this game for 11 episodes
> Buy the game
> Defeat the end boss on the first try
I guess eggy's a good teacher :)
NL: I think it's really hard to recover HP in this game
NL at the end of the video: oh this relic will heal me whenever I get to a campfire that's really good...but screw that.
i let out a long sigh when he didnt attack the boss to stop the 28 damage. then again, i should be used to this..
regardless of silly mistakes, keep it up man. i just hope you're reading the comments for tips, and the criticism.
15:34 Game: *INFERNAL BLADE*
NL: "Eternal Blade"
NL, try to consider skipping card rewards. Often times deck size is much more important than a "slightly better defend/strike."
This is especially true later in the game if your deck has a strong synergy.
Wish he would get Charon's Ashes or the tree branch relic just once early on so he's be pushed towards building an exhaust deck, they're so much fun
NL you trigger me so bad that I bought the game and can't stop playing XD Love the vids
Check out the beta man. It's got more cards, more enemies and as far as I can tell no bugs at all, and it's super stable.
A new episode of Slay the Spire? Bring on the misplays.
You removed a strike, finally you see the matrix!
Ehh..... its more like he sees a single digit of the matrix at best. And knowing him, he then just turns around to stop seeing it in later episodes.
I'm really digging this
NL likes anger so much because the card art is bald just like him
My wife bought this for herself and me because of these videos. 4 hours later, I'm still playing. 🤔
Check out the beta build mate. More cards, more relics, more enemies, it's incredibly stable etc... it's gonna be the next release anyway I think.
Much more content, fewer bugs, no drawbacks at all.
Seeing him finally remove cards made me so happy! Made the deck so much more balanced
NL if you drag the attack on the ennemy the computer computes the damage you will do .... LETS GOOOoOoOoOoO
"theres some variance in this game"
*chooses card that increases the variance*
Perfected Strike is literally amazing. Just keep picking up cards with the word Strike and its Damage Increases. Was doing over 60 Damage at one point with one hit!
It stacks with itself as well, so when you have three of them, you're really slugging out damage.
Nl, you really need to learn the boss patterns: Sometimes attacking and forcing a phase change is way better than defending.
To be honest, i dont watch the vids, i just listen to him while i play this game. Seeing the misplay will probably break my heart quite a bit
14:34
>bash does 10 dmg
>there is a 10 HP enemy
>"we can't one hit kill"
missed the tinted lethal.
NL pls keep the series going, it's 8/10, -2 for various mistakes. That being said, once you get used to the math, you'll reign Supreme egg lord in this.
It's hardly 8/10 mate. There's no commentary so all we have is gameplay.
The gameplay is atrocious. It's much closer to 3/10 +1 because egg.
Okay so chat in this game just echos advice which is commonly heard in other card games which may not be applicable in this game, health is not just a resource in this game because their is no board you can easily encounter situations where you have to take damage which is why you should pay attention to your health some in this game, however you also can do sometimes make decisions which are too cautious of your hp consider it heals to full at the end of each level.
Even with your horrible decisions i LOVE this series
The mode shifts are all interrupts. You could have killed him a lot sooner and avoided damage by paying attention to how much damage was left before mode change.
Egg needs to learn the bosses; mainly that shifting modes and splitting interrupts attacks.
Also there are like 3/4 playstyles to the Iron Clad that I know of which work:
1.Super aggro taking hard hitting high value cards whiling maintaining vulnerability
2.Stacking Strikes and going full berserker on that sheet
3. Becoming a wall with Entrench and an Upgraded body slam
4. Burnt branch corruption runs with all the skills (real interesting to see what the game gives you)
Anything I missed I'm sure you lads will correct me.
There's decent hybrids as well (for example Body Slam is always good, you WILL be blocking, and upgraded it's free damage), there's also the "heal" play, with bloody idol, black blood, Bites etc... and you can use things like combustion and the cube without sacrificing anything in the way of HP.
A couple upgraded metalicize will allow you to focus completely on offense with your cards, so the "heal" style is also a bit of a hybrid, if you get lucky with cards and relics.
I had a snecko run recently too, where I traded my starting burning blood for snecko. That's an interesting run in itself, since you don't need to EVER worry about picking up 3 energy cards, since that's the idea. Grab mark of pain and you're off to an easy win most of the time.
NLs weakness is that he plays every game like Isaac, he rushes everything. He rushes reading in undertale and he rushes thinking in this game.
If he just slowed down and thought about the game instead of treating it like a chore to play he’d do well
He's been treating everything he plays since like 2011 that's NOT on the NLSS as a chore to play.
He really ought to just cut his TH-cam output down, and run a fourth stream night, it likely makes him more money, and he's happier doing it.
IamI3rian yeah you’re not wrong there
NL I wont bash on you here for missing lethal or anything but especially on the early levels a few values are interesting to keep in mind.
3 Strikes on a vulnerable enemy deal 27 damage.
3 Strikes on a normal target deal 18.
Keep in mind, that you sometimes dont want any card they offer you. Just skip the card then. It will keep your deck potent.
I also recommend trying out a "Perfected Strike" build: Skip everything that doesnt give you strength, Energy or is called "Perfected Strike". You will see yourself deal 50 damage instances on the first boss every turn if you can pull that off
Twin strike is also very good for the Perfected Strike build. Pommel Strike is even better.
Dude, this lets play is awesome!
Don't worry about going too slow, worry about doing it right :)
On the other hand, remember that you heal up to full HP after boss fights, so don't hesitate so much on bosses, especially on the first floor.
"I am an idiot, and a stupid idiot who is a moron man", truer words have never been spoken :'D
Egg, pay more attention to Mode Shift on the transform boss, you could have canceled his attacks so many times by just attacking.
This physically hurts me. Egg - git gud pls
thanks alphys
Yo yo. My ol' papa used to say "haraka, haraka, haina baraka", which is Swahili and can be translated as "slow, slow, is the way to go", but I mean it to mean, don't let viewers push you into making mistakes because they want a faster video.
Literally no one said to go faster. He's talking about "slow play" not playing slowly.
I.E. turtling up and not taking damage, rather than taking some hits to speed up the fight (in turns).
Literally everyone is telling him to slow down and read the screen mate... even in Swahili.
"health is a resource and hard to come by" passes on reaper at the end, arguably the single strongest card in the game because of it's ability to get you hp back. passes on feather, because i can't even. barricade is bad and you should feel bad.
Watching NL take 29 damage on that boss when he could have initiated the mode shift and dodged all the damage was painful
I picked up this game because of you (and Trump - the Hearthstone variety). I gained the Ruby achievement by stacking strength and using *Heavy Blade* . A good strat, it seems, is to grab a few *Strength potions/cards (Power)* then use an *UPGRADED Limit Break* . Give preference card pick to *Headbutt* which will allow you to gain stupid amounts of strength (apparently max = 999) by cycling *Limit Break* ad nauseam. This will allow for a devastating *Heavy Blade* attack (max = 5009). You'll want to pick up *Iron Weave* for defense; *Impervious* and *Barricade* are an especially amazing combo. *Reaper* , if you can get it, will allow you to stay topped off allowing you to be productive at rest sites rather than healing. It goes without saying that any of the aforementioned cards are better upgraded but the only one that is a must for this strat is *Limit Break* ... use it once and it will change your StS experience! Good luck, NL ... wish you the best in future games.
Post script ... you're really going to have read the buffs/debuffs/attributes of the stuff your fighting. 23:00 you could have avoided 21 damage by doing 10 damage (10 = 9 block + 1 hp) to the boss. He cancels his attack to shift modes.
... and again @ 25:07
23:30 "We could use our energy potion." Egg daddy you've lost it. You need to stop playing this game, what energy potion. When Egg daddy finds his energy potion, I will return.
if you have to heal at a campfire on the first level, it was not meant to be
bob baker I agree
Reaper, "Heal for unblocked damage dealt" in an offensive deck? Nah, take Barricade.