16:35 *Peach’s forward throw kill at 140%* “Woah, that’s super weak, how’d he kill with fthrow?!?” Meanwhile... bayonetta: “Bayonetta still has killing options, she has a strong forward throw that kills at around 180% near the ledge”
I think Rosalina is a pretty solid character at this point. If they increased her weight a bit and made Luma more durable than wet tissue paper, she'd be set.
I think the Nintendo developers forget that the 1.2x damage multiplier makes it easy to swat Luma away. Not to mention Luma is far weaker in knockback than its smash 4 iteration.
In the past update while Luma's HO was reduced his recovery time was shortened allowing him to return quicker after getting knocked off stage.
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How about increase both the knock back and damage of Luma. Since everyone goes for Luma, at least will make it a bigger incentive. But I do agree, for her height, she is too light. Maybe adjust how high her jumps (or the number of jumps) are (to justify the lightness).
@@rickyrandhawa7612 why would he not know the match up? He has played against dabuz's rosa multiple times and has faced other Rosa's too. It's funny seeing people trying to find excuses for skilled people winning with rosa.
I LOVE Dabuz's Rosa in ultimate- it's so refreshing to see him play both conservatively and aggressively with a character once notorious for her campiness
0:42 Wow a 38 second game. That must be a record. GG’s to all, must have been an intense set, as it got really close with Palutena only taking 18% and all, could’ve lost at any second with those clean SD’s.
I feel like if top players drop characters after nerfs them they might be too harsh. That shield things seems shitty. The hurtbox should match the model period imo.
Since Luma is not as strong as before and is easier to kill and everyone is faster, Rosalina is forced to play more aggressive. It's not good for her archetype (fortess, wall-based character) but Rosalina can manage somewhat given the recent buffs.
There were actually times where Dabuz could have saved luma by making it throw out a hitbox, but he LET Samsora chase Luma to the end of the stage, where he'd lose all his stage control, and putting Dabuz in an advantage state, even without Luma (which would come back soon anyway).
@@peterkropotkin6806 Yeah, in this game, Luma respawns so quickly. As the commentators pointed out, Dabuz doesn't care about losing Lumas since they come back so quickly, he's content with letting them block one move before dying even. I also noticed that, when he wants to press in to transition into an advantage state to get a kill, he'll let his opponents dispose of a Luma about to die so he can come in with a fresh Luma when it counts.
i was expecting a boring set, but they had some neat plays here. pretty good set seeing dabuz start to employ dash dancing and taking more risks on edgeguarding was hype, i'm liking it! we're not in smash 4 anymore
Ouch u can see the nerf on peach gameplay at top level. Goodbye top 8 peach in tournaments. To be honest she is a veryyyy hard character to master to. Nintendo has finally knock peach out of top 10 best characters.
As a Peach main, I find it unreasonable. They nerfed her only viable kill option, which usually only killed at the ledgw to begin with. They didn't even think to touch the damage that float-canceled aerials do. On top of that, they buffed her f-smash, which is almost useless most of the time. She has no confirms into any of her smash attacks, and already has terrible killing in general. Additionally, she is one of the hardest characters to master, requiring the most tech skill and precise inputs to play well, yet this is rewarded very little, as opposed to half of the entire roster.
I think this is a great testament to how characters are way more fun to watch when they don’t have broken strategies like Rosalina had in Smash 4. I actually really enjoy playing her this time around as well!
@@brandon1331 she play the same but you have to land more hits than before. A character who were dying in 4 hits now die in 6 hits. Thats objectivly a bad thing
Distant Dreams Trying to hit peach during her recovery is very dangerous because you cant be in front of her side-b if she uses it and up-b has a huge protective hitbox on top
@@dondreyoung7143 I mean Luma comes back every 10 seconds and its not like he already wasn't losing her fast enough. Most of the time he didn't have her and most of the time Samsora did not recover with Up-B
One of the best sets i have watched in Ultimate ever.
And i never thought i would say that about Dabuz's Rosalina. GG Dabuz
Those dudes are insane. Dabuz uplighting rosalina right now is so great.
He can still go "LIPPO MODE" even without the Olimar.
Everyone hated Dabuz’s Rosalina in Smash 4, but now everyone suddenly likes it because she’s such a rare character (and she’s also not jank anymore)
And she's bad*
Kosmos That too ofc
It's the smash cycle lol. Look at how people now like and support sonic, or bow hype people get when they see the ice climbers in a tournament lol
@@tylerwilson1024 icies are cool, they don't have that stupid insta kill that they had in previous games.
Yep its all about if the character is broken or not, nobody likes broken characters winning everything.
16:35 *Peach’s forward throw kill at 140%*
“Woah, that’s super weak, how’d he kill with fthrow?!?”
Meanwhile... bayonetta:
“Bayonetta still has killing options, she has a strong forward throw that kills at around 180% near the ledge”
I kill more with Bayonetta's down throw than forward throw. Down throw kills at ground level starting from 220%...
@Christopher Cruz Why? She's awesome
Spyro Fury he probably got his ass whooped by her in the previous game and the salty trauma is still there
I think Rosalina is a pretty solid character at this point. If they increased her weight a bit and made Luma more durable than wet tissue paper, she'd be set.
I think the Nintendo developers forget that the 1.2x damage multiplier makes it easy to swat Luma away. Not to mention Luma is far weaker in knockback than its smash 4 iteration.
In the past update while Luma's HO was reduced his recovery time was shortened allowing him to return quicker after getting knocked off stage.
How about increase both the knock back and damage of Luma. Since everyone goes for Luma, at least will make it a bigger incentive. But I do agree, for her height, she is too light. Maybe adjust how high her jumps (or the number of jumps) are (to justify the lightness).
that second game was insane
nice to see a low-usage character like rosa perform well, hopeful to see more rosa from dabuz
Love seeing people complain about peach fair not killing at 90 meanwhile the average percent rosa takes a stock is 180%
Deadass tho.
banana apple I mean it was offstage
Well people complain about rosalina too much
@@edilynew9892 Sour spot
orphiccoma 90% with max rage
Game starts at 3:07
Here's a cookie!
You've earned it:)
Thanx
I wish I found your comment earlier
Dem Dabuz button checks
Dabutton checks?
Dabuz is back with rosalina !!!! Ugh yesss queen rosa!!!! 👑
can't wait to see rosalina high tier in samsoras next tier list
Glass Plant well he wasn’t wrong about joker cause joker is top 3 but I don’t feel like he would do that to Rosa he prolly doesn’t know the matchup
@@rickyrandhawa7612 why would he not know the match up? He has played against dabuz's rosa multiple times and has faced other Rosa's too. It's funny seeing people trying to find excuses for skilled people winning with rosa.
Skarical Core what other high level rosas are you talking about and he barely plays Dabuzs rosa other than summit
@@sniffablecow It would be more of the matter on how frequently he faces Rosa, which is obviously not that much.
@@alterp5108 He has played enough to know the match up though. If the commentators are correct, he also used to play some rosa himself.
I LOVE Dabuz's Rosa in ultimate- it's so refreshing to see him play both conservatively and aggressively with a character once notorious for her campiness
I never understood how Rosalina is a lightweight in smash, but in Mario kart she’s a heavy weight
Bruh this right here. She would be balanced if she was a heavy or heavy-like
Same for Mewtwo and Ridley...
At the end of the day shes just a skinny blonde
7 feet tall and somehow light as a feather
Because in smash she represents the floaty and gravity-free nature of the galaxy games, whereas in mario kart she represents that she's tall
dabuz plays better with rosalina than olimar
Facts
Watching someone good play Rosalina and Luma is insane
Jigglypuff: Hey everyone, I'm a beloved low-mid tier!
Luma: Hold my beer.
Jigglypuff is actually a low high tier/high mid tier. Everyone underestimates her because they don't know anything about her.
@@bluyu this aged horrendously
@@iknowwhereyoulive618 Yeah... I think she's low mid-tier now.
John Numbers is the true homie.
*MY BUTT CHEEKS. CLENCHED.*
*MY POOP HAS NOWHERE TO GO BUT BACK IN*
"always playing the queen characters"
"absolutely, tall blondes, Samsora's type for sure"
[X] Doubt
This set is amazing. Watching two of the best players play almost perfectly. They both were playing on another level
0:42 Wow a 38 second game. That must be a record. GG’s to all, must have been an intense set, as it got really close with Palutena only taking 18% and all, could’ve lost at any second with those clean SD’s.
Can someone make Dabuz drinking water and nodding his head a gif?
I was there live. That last kill was absolutely magical.
i love that the commentators are talking about luma
I feel like if top players drop characters after nerfs them they might be too harsh. That shield things seems shitty. The hurtbox should match the model period imo.
lord that was a crazy game two
Wow, Rosalina is really hype in this game. Great job to Dabuz!
That peach nerf tho
One thing I noticed about smash Ultimate Rosalina, is that she’s kinda forced to play more aggressive now
She's also better at playing aggressive. Nair helps a lot in that regard
everyone is since this game was built around being way more aggressive than smash 4. You have to press buttons now.
Since Luma is not as strong as before and is easier to kill and everyone is faster, Rosalina is forced to play more aggressive. It's not good for her archetype (fortess, wall-based character) but Rosalina can manage somewhat given the recent buffs.
There were actually times where Dabuz could have saved luma by making it throw out a hitbox, but he LET Samsora chase Luma to the end of the stage, where he'd lose all his stage control, and putting Dabuz in an advantage state, even without Luma (which would come back soon anyway).
Floofzy Kitty he’d also shoot Luma toward the ledge when offstage so the opponent can deal with Luma and you get a safer recovery.
@@peterkropotkin6806 Yeah, in this game, Luma respawns so quickly. As the commentators pointed out, Dabuz doesn't care about losing Lumas since they come back so quickly, he's content with letting them block one move before dying even.
I also noticed that, when he wants to press in to transition into an advantage state to get a kill, he'll let his opponents dispose of a Luma about to die so he can come in with a fresh Luma when it counts.
Let's go dabuz
I always feel bad for samsora when he loses. He always looks so sad but straight faced at the same time.
This was an exciting set!
ROSALINA RECOGNITION AYY!
Me: *Sees bomb for 2nd time* CRAAAP!!!
Dabuz: Nope, not dealing. *Jumps*
i was expecting a boring set, but they had some neat plays here. pretty good set
seeing dabuz start to employ dash dancing and taking more risks on edgeguarding was hype, i'm liking it! we're not in smash 4 anymore
Godlike set
14:45
Dabuz: nothing new to me
Was the... Stream of the gameplay being recorded, and not being recorded directly? It was stuttering every now and again.
This set is soooo dynamic, oml.
That game 2 might have been the best game of ultimate ever
Edit: Wow, just the entire match was incredible. Congrats Dabuz
This was a really hype match.
WORTH IT! Sick games.
12:08 Samsora has HAD IT. ready to smack the bitch up. Out of all smash games, Samsora is by far the most aggro peach I love it.
Ouch u can see the nerf on peach gameplay at top level. Goodbye top 8 peach in tournaments. To be honest she is a veryyyy hard character to master to. Nintendo has finally knock peach out of top 10 best characters.
They honestly should've left peach alone. Samsora is the only one to get peach into top 8 major.
@@ceizhore4498 The nerfs she received were very reasonable. As long as they leave her alone after this, she'll be fine. She's still a great character.
As a Peach main, I find it unreasonable. They nerfed her only viable kill option, which usually only killed at the ledgw to begin with. They didn't even think to touch the damage that float-canceled aerials do. On top of that, they buffed her f-smash, which is almost useless most of the time. She has no confirms into any of her smash attacks, and already has terrible killing in general. Additionally, she is one of the hardest characters to master, requiring the most tech skill and precise inputs to play well, yet this is rewarded very little, as opposed to half of the entire roster.
Rosa looking like a SNACK
Best game I’ve watched in a wile
Dude this is sooooo hype with Rosalina !!!! lets go dabuz !!!!!!
This was so fucking hype wtf
Rosalina looking clean
Those Rosalina kills were amazing.
I love dabuz aggressive rosalina play
Dabuzz shaking 👀 14:50, take vitamins
This was nutssss.
That was so hype
DABUZ finally getting a win!!! 😍
Nice set! Honestly dabuz should have started pressuring with down air off stage earlier and more often for the early spikes. Good game regardless.
Am i the only one Who rooted for Sams?
I think this is a great testament to how characters are way more fun to watch when they don’t have broken strategies like Rosalina had in Smash 4. I actually really enjoy playing her this time around as well!
the end stock of the year :0
Rosalina, heavy and light at the same time.
I main Peach💖and Daisy🧡
(Mostly Daisy🧡🧡🧡)
DABUUUUZ
Excellent finish~
Peach got really hurts by these nerfs😖
She plays the same in my opinion you just have to play a lot safer
@@brandon1331 A lot of times where attacks would kill they barely didn't. Meaning Samsora would've won if it did
@@brandon1331 she play the same but you have to land more hits than before.
A character who were dying in 4 hits now die in 6 hits. Thats objectivly a bad thing
Olimar got nerfed way worse lmao
@@etaquince5220 yeah hence nerf...overall peach isn't changed very much other than killing slightly later
If i would play smash comp i would not play again dabuz 😂His Charakter fucks up so much
This whole set was amazing, partially because I skipped the first match.
3:09 start
OMG THE SECOND MATCH
What was that first thing? Them just training???
The Atomic Ranks 32 yea just a warm up
yup they were warming up
Players do that to check and see if their controls are right and that their controllers are working
Ugh that damn Nerf is really costing peach :(
Legendary rosalina play 👌
I see Samsora turned into Gamora’s other sister. (Look at his tag if you haven’t seen)
"Samora" lol
damn that was so good
Im fooling with the dabuz rosa
Hat dabuz Daunsyndrom? Does dabuz has Daunsyndrom
BRO Samsora is amazing!!
Blonds are Samsora's type HAH DEAD💀
34 min damn
Jeremiah Figueroa you already know this match is going to be intense
Icey
Grand finals is like 50 mins lol
Are you watching this at 2020 bc wifi tourneys are not hype? Come on, give me that like
HYPE
How rare is that bomb??
That was a really nice Luma back air hah.
Dabuz really needs to get better at edgeguarding. Samsora's peach has been recovering the exact same way almost every time
If he’s wrong, luma dies from peach up b hitbox. It’s a huge risk
Distant Dreams Trying to hit peach during her recovery is very dangerous because you cant be in front of her side-b if she uses it and up-b has a huge protective hitbox on top
But you’re right he still needs to figure something out
@@dondreyoung7143 I mean Luma comes back every 10 seconds and its not like he already wasn't losing her fast enough. Most of the time he didn't have her and most of the time Samsora did not recover with Up-B
Commentators pop off was even grater than dabuz lol
Samsora got that good hair
Samsora was shaking between games
Ngl that bomb pull game 1 was hype
Edit: never mind game 2 was better
luma is a BOI
THE PUPPET MASTER
Samsora miss so many kills because of peach's fair nerf
Diego León move was BUSTED as fuck.
How early did that thing kill before?
@@KevSB07 like 10% earlier
@@goleon7671 doesn't sound like too big a deal. Especially with peach's insane combos and damage output being intact.
No words:0
YES!!!
No more oilman😭
That second match tho
The end was crazy omg
that set was porn
Brooooo the name says samora 😂😂😂😂
Nerfsalina vs Top Peach
Feel bad fur dbuz .ssu has not been good to him .hes literally falling cuz of nerf. Makes me ao sad