Once you play the game for a while you realize that pk fire has near to no shield damage and is easy to mash out of. Peach you should fear with the amount of mix-ups and sheild pressure. For you just shield the pk fire it’s really not that good
@@wonderingsoulinfj But PK fire is good for spacing, as it makes your opponent scared to approach even if it doesn't hit. If if does hit, you can combo with an aerial and if they mash out, sometimes you can still punish
PãoComManteigaa you should actually watch bestness play he has some nasty combos but you have to remember he can’t play combo based he has to use what he knows will hit instead of taking a risk especially against peach who is far superior in this matchup 👍
@@IAyala1010 obviously what people call the "2nd best player in the world" in a game where millions and millions of people play is going to have alot of attention
It’s crazy that people say BN is carried by WiFi but here we see offline gameplay against *Samsora* of all people!! He definitely held his own and the set could’ve went either way! GGs to Samsora for taking this one even tho I’m late lol
And now with the Ness buffs I am just gonna say it now. Bestness will become one of the top pgr players. He pushed Ness ridiculously far in ultimate and a lot of people are creating very useful tech on him lately with his magnet giving him multiple true combos.
rewatching samsora vids and i've noticed that commentators are awful at commentating sets with peach generally at majors/supermajors and regionals. it's like they don't know anything about the character, and they just make it all about the other player. it was awful the first two games of this set. i thought maybe it was just because it was samsora but lo and behold i go and watch umeki and muteace and meru sets, etc and they're usually the same way... i know the community as a whole doesn't really know much about the character and just spouts off memey ways in which they think she's broken but... i feel like commentary like this just makes it worse tbh that said bestness played outta his mind, congrats to him for doing so well vs the number 2 player in the world. he looked pretty pissed at the end tho lmao
I’m glad I wasn’t the only one that caught eye of this I’m re watching all of his games to get a better feel of how he uses the character but nothing the commentators say helps just “he’s down but knowing peach the comeback won’t be too hard” I think the only set commentators go into depth of it was smash summit 2 in grands vs MKLeo
Well If commentators should know everything about Smash Bros, they No longer would have free time. Its about commentating, entertaining and a Bit of knowledge. Should they Talk about frame Data All the time? Nobody would enjoy that. And those Guys got a real Life that should Not be wasted with frame data or character knowledge. Leave that to the Players. They need to know their stuff.
Why do people shit on BestNess's apparent span of side b when it is literally an integral part of Ness's toolkit and aids getting Ness main's where they are in tourney placement.
Yeah, right? He's incredible and has beaten top players multiple times, but I think he's just a local god, he might not have the funds to travel far away to majors and supermajors
@@abed5180 That's awesome, he might not go to majors but the fact that he can inspire you and other people to get better and pick up a character he loves shows how awesome he really is
Does sam not counter ness up b because it has too much end lag which could kill him or something? I feel that his airdodges dont always save him and ness up b can still chase after it. Idk
no one knows who the best ness really is, the main ones are: Awestin, FOW, Gackt, and BestNess. Bestness has played Awestin and FOW, and he is 1-2 in sets against Awestin. As far as i know, the only time he played FOW, Bestness used Palutena. So we dont know whose Ness is better
@@Zavs___ The best way to measure who's the best Ness player isn't who does the best in Ness mirrors but who does the best in tournaments and beats players the others can't.
Don't get me wrong, Awestin is amazing and super fun to watch but he only plays locals and he hasn't been dominating them as when Ultimate was first released. Bestness competes in these supermajors playing against literally the best people in the world. After watching this set, there's no doubt Bestness would win now.
It’s a really good movement mixup in the air and combos into basically any aerial at any percent bc it has fixed knockback. It also absorbs projectiles and heals damage if they’re not a physical object.
I’ve just learned it also slows you down a little bit, which as others said, can make your movement less predictable. This can also help you stabilize a bit to get a pk thunder below stage to recover
the most carried yet peach has the least top 50 pgr reps out of any top tier. even shulk has 3 people in the pgr compared to two for paisy. samsora isn't carried in the slightest. online he sucks cause paisy's gutted online, offline his adaptation is second to none. his results alone make people overrespect and overrate paisy to hell similar to leo with joker
Chumbasauce Awestin is an amazing player but cmon bro. Yes upsets can happen and they have happened, but realistically Awestin isn’t gonna beat Samsora. Bro, he struggles with Lima’s peach lolll
Most counters in the game, as Nope Lol said with Peach, are super punishable. It's why you don't see characters like Peach and most of the FE crew use it, or if they do it's super rare. I co-main Lucina (although I use Cloud most) and don't really ever go for Counter.
i'd rather be trapped in pk fire hell than fight a peach main that knows float cancels exist
Once you play the game for a while you realize that pk fire has near to no shield damage and is easy to mash out of. Peach you should fear with the amount of mix-ups and sheild pressure. For you just shield the pk fire it’s really not that good
@@wonderingsoulinfj But PK fire is good for spacing, as it makes your opponent scared to approach even if it doesn't hit. If if does hit, you can combo with an aerial and if they mash out, sometimes you can still punish
thats just wrong
Pk fire is not that good on top level of play. BestNess had a hard time comboing out of it
Gamma814 pk fire is crucial to ness’ neutral, so i completely disagree with that
Best ness looks like gibby but older
Lol
And buffer
Best ness is actually FREAKIN tall. He’s in my region. He’s like 6’ 5”
@@Minister_of_Magic_1997 yeah he helped me w my first tourney at lan king he’s fuckin yammered
Sam always looks like such a stoic when he wins in tournaments lol, but then you go to his channel and he's such a goofball
bestness is legit man. just needs to not get tilted so easily
I think BestNess held his composure pretty well, from what I could tell here. He brought the set back and was playing well at the end, imo.
He didn’t even get tilted lmao
Mario Vigil Spencer always gets mad bro. He was tilted
@@popahtrj eh he deserves it for being a fucking hypocrite
@@dynamicjackstorm fuck off he’s my boi
What do you get when you fuse Peach and Ness?
Pea-ness
👏👏👏
LOL
Bruh
If you skip exactly at 3:13 3 times you’ll see best ness get grabbed every 10 seconds exactly
Hahaha it's the little things in life :)
Timothy Van Hijfte :))))
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Bestness lookin like he coppin a few games between classes
Edward Tan more like between workouts o_O
No matter how much low level Ness gameplay sucks, I really enjoy watching competitive Ness
Yea ness and cloud is just so annoying at low to mid level
0:20 The match became bestness vs bestness
Bess Ness seems like he has a horrible mental game, he always seems so stressed beetween matches
He is probably too worried about how he is looking to the cameras... Man has developed some complexes for sure
Ege Dalyan he’s ugly
@@BlackpinkOutsoldYourFav fuck off
Well Ness Players are just desperate, Mindless players who spam PK FIRE!!! Shows their insecurities when they main him.
@@geraldwhite2676 If Best Ness only spammed PK Fire he wouldn't be as good as he is now
I love how bestness wear his backpack at all times
He does some method acting to become one with Ness, haha.
Sams roughest match besides Leo of course. This ness was nasty!
Doctor Love ness is great 👍
Doctor Love uhhh
Bestness plays super nasty in general
*laughs in maister*
PãoComManteigaa you should actually watch bestness play he has some nasty combos but you have to remember he can’t play combo based he has to use what he knows will hit instead of taking a risk especially against peach who is far superior in this matchup 👍
Bestness is underated
Debatable but fair
Chad F samsora is overrated
@@IAyala1010 nah
@@IAyala1010 obviously what people call the "2nd best player in the world" in a game where millions and millions of people play is going to have alot of attention
ha not anymore
I hope one of the commentators will make a pun with Nessessary
Akira What about finesse? My player name is that lll
@@rollingapples6579 that's a good one too
It’s crazy that people say BN is carried by WiFi but here we see offline gameplay against *Samsora* of all people!! He definitely held his own and the set could’ve went either way!
GGs to Samsora for taking this one even tho I’m late lol
Trueee
He is carried lmao
That maneuver where thunder knocks ness into an opponent is one of the most viscerally satisfying things in smash
Pk thunder 2 is what its called. Great kill move if you can land it
Ever wonder how Peach is always victim to Bowser in the Mario universe, when she would clearly whoop him in Smash...
She does it deliberately to get Mario to do things for her 😂
Bowsers still good asf tho a good bowser could clutch it out against a good peach
damn that was an amazing set BestNess went wild!!
BN's movement tech is so great, and he's gotten so much better even since then
holy samsora's finisher was hype asf
S tier commentary and awesome play by both BN and Samsora
And now with the Ness buffs I am just gonna say it now. Bestness will become one of the top pgr players. He pushed Ness ridiculously far in ultimate and a lot of people are creating very useful tech on him lately with his magnet giving him multiple true combos.
rewatching samsora vids and i've noticed that commentators are awful at commentating sets with peach generally at majors/supermajors and regionals. it's like they don't know anything about the character, and they just make it all about the other player. it was awful the first two games of this set. i thought maybe it was just because it was samsora but lo and behold i go and watch umeki and muteace and meru sets, etc and they're usually the same way... i know the community as a whole doesn't really know much about the character and just spouts off memey ways in which they think she's broken but... i feel like commentary like this just makes it worse tbh
that said bestness played outta his mind, congrats to him for doing so well vs the number 2 player in the world. he looked pretty pissed at the end tho lmao
I’m glad I wasn’t the only one that caught eye of this I’m re watching all of his games to get a better feel of how he uses the character but nothing the commentators say helps just “he’s down but knowing peach the comeback won’t be too hard” I think the only set commentators go into depth of it was smash summit 2 in grands vs MKLeo
You know if bestness had clutched out that W the popoff was about to be crazy
Well If commentators should know everything about Smash Bros, they No longer would have free time. Its about commentating, entertaining and a Bit of knowledge.
Should they Talk about frame Data All the time? Nobody would enjoy that. And those Guys got a real Life that should Not be wasted with frame data or character knowledge. Leave that to the Players. They need to know their stuff.
18:22 cup-continue
Why do people shit on BestNess's apparent span of side b when it is literally an integral part of Ness's toolkit and aids getting Ness main's where they are in tourney placement.
Great match... but seriously where is my Awestin at tho?
Yeah, right? He's incredible and has beaten top players multiple times, but I think he's just a local god, he might not have the funds to travel far away to majors and supermajors
@@G-XTREME what I heard is that he has medical issues that prevent him from traveling I hope that's not true
@@abed5180 That sucks :( he would definetly be top 50 if he could travel
@@G-XTREME ik he actually inspired me to main ness honestly I hope I'm wrong cuz that's upsetting but that's what I heard
@@abed5180 That's awesome, he might not go to majors but the fact that he can inspire you and other people to get better and pick up a character he loves shows how awesome he really is
Does sam not counter ness up b because it has too much end lag which could kill him or something? I feel that his airdodges dont always save him and ness up b can still chase after it. Idk
summertime
*wears all the hoodies
@15:45 DANG! I clapped my hands at that play BN!
Did samsora know where he was?
This one of the best sets
I also loved it
Jokes aside, is he really the best Ness?
Good job to both btw, exciting match!
no one knows who the best ness really is, the main ones are: Awestin, FOW, Gackt, and BestNess. Bestness has played Awestin and FOW, and he is 1-2 in sets against Awestin. As far as i know, the only time he played FOW, Bestness used Palutena. So we dont know whose Ness is better
@@Zavs___ The best way to measure who's the best Ness player isn't who does the best in Ness mirrors but who does the best in tournaments and beats players the others can't.
Awestin is the best Ness
@@moist762 he was, he's fallen off though, id say bestness is now
Gregoire Monelle, II he lost to gackt as well
Samsora has absolutely zero emotion. Feels like a robot
Player2 he’s one of the most emotional players lol. He’s just doesn’t show it when playing
Lol look at his twitch/youtube channels
Lucas later gets revenge
Commentators who talk about game plans. Mismatches, disadvantages, off stage options > yelling and making sex jokes over and over
Great set
BestNess almost got him at the end. Gg Peach’s hit boxes are insane
So help me, the guy at 12:36 dabbed on me.
Hype match!
Does anyone know how BestNess did in losers?
So clutch 15:36
Bestness strings a 7-8 hit combo - 70%
Samsora throws two turnips - 70%
I'm a peach secondary and I agree that they do too much damage
Guys how can he bounce at 18:47 please?
If you bounce off the stage like that while using PK Thunder, you have just a few frames to attempt a second time.
I need these guys to fucking play again
Bestness is terrible at getting back from the ledge. There are so many times he couldve rolled or mixed up his get up options.
Yet people praise him for being “good”
Best ness has such a passion for ness.
Awestin vs Bestness pls!
Its already happened lol Awestin vs Bestness at shockwave. Its a 30 minute set
@@revan2132 yea like a year ago. We nerd an update on that, i bet bestness would win this time
Don't get me wrong, Awestin is amazing and super fun to watch but he only plays locals and he hasn't been dominating them as when Ultimate was first released. Bestness competes in these supermajors playing against literally the best people in the world. After watching this set, there's no doubt Bestness would win now.
qwerty842 Agreed anyone saying BestNess would lose doesn’t really keep up with how he places at majors
Why do Ness players use the down B mid combo or when flying around. Sorry noob here.
It confuses your opponent and can hit if you're close to it.
@@baptiste9114 Thanks
@@Typhoon860 No problem. Ask me if you have more questions.
It’s a really good movement mixup in the air and combos into basically any aerial at any percent bc it has fixed knockback. It also absorbs projectiles and heals damage if they’re not a physical object.
I’ve just learned it also slows you down a little bit, which as others said, can make your movement less predictable. This can also help you stabilize a bit to get a pk thunder below stage to recover
1.5 playback speed for melee and 0.75 for wii u
BestNess should play Project M. His PSI Magnet game is incredible in this game I can only imagine what he could do.
who tf still plays project M 😑😑
qwerty842 you’d be surprised
I love watching Spencer play
Lol that guy at the end with the heelies shoes.
Who else feels like BN has like 10 jump buttons on his controller
Man, I miss good commentary
15:16 Bestness understands the brevity of the situation? I think he meant gravity.
BestNess probably should have used neutral air more. Betting on back air or forward air is not worth it in some of the situations he went for it in.
sigurdtheblue
no
that was amazing!!!
Samsora is just learning while he plays
15:43 That is all
lmaoooo
This a classic smash ult set fasho
Really this matchup is even but slightly peach's favor.
I think samsora should learn the "neutral b"
Gabriel Devenne He uses it sometimes. It's not very good though so why would he use it often.
I hope BessNess wins, good luck!
¿Porque siempre enfocan al peruano y no al otro men?
Bestness > Awestin, fight me
Agreed
@@seanjung8578 🗿
My 2 mains
Me too, ness is my main and peach is my secondary lol
what a heart breaker
Bestness looks like that guy from my hero academia with the permiation quirk
That's so intense
bestness used to be fat lol
i see that gut
That samsora was Godlike. I wish he'd play Daisy tho
incel destroyer LOOOOOL Relax
@@PrinceSolitudeyou have an anonymous mask profile pic, i think you need to relax mr. Edgelord
@@inceldestroyer1069 But I like my mask :[
@@PrinceSolitude ok fine you can keep it, but it comes off at the dinner table.
Pgr hlobal put him on top 10
gotta love bestness
bestness looks like lucas
Samsora is carried.... Low-key 👀
Peach is broken and samsora is thr most carried out of all top players and wont admit it
the most carried yet peach has the least top 50 pgr reps out of any top tier. even shulk has 3 people in the pgr compared to two for paisy. samsora isn't carried in the slightest. online he sucks cause paisy's gutted online, offline his adaptation is second to none. his results alone make people overrespect and overrate paisy to hell similar to leo with joker
peach = the same thing.!!
Awestin coulda beat samsora
Chumbasauce
...gonna pretend you didnt say this.
@@notbl1tz616 bro, you need faith
Chumbasauce
Awestin is an amazing player but cmon bro. Yes upsets can happen and they have happened, but realistically Awestin isn’t gonna beat Samsora. Bro, he struggles with Lima’s peach lolll
Mkleo probably will win smashcon 2019
"probably"
Stop ruining my smash con experience!!! 😭😭
*maister
Is it OK that I hate NES/Lucas with every fiber of my being, I mean, it’s normal right?
Online Ness is beyond annoying
Nice, WorstNess loosing again...
Good to heae
All l seen was pk fire/thunder spam lmao
Because you’re a scrub that’s why lmao
@@MechAgeno nah, it's spam. Spam with a lot of thought put into it, but still spam by definition.
Sean zoning is a legitimate play style. It’s a strategy used in almost every fighting game. It’s only called spam by smash players lmao
@@MechAgeno Spam is just repeated usage of the same moves. Which basically every zoner does
@@MechAgeno Actually most characters do it tbh
Ness=zzZzzzzZzz
Did Sam forget Peach has a counter?!
Yeah, one of the laggiest and punishable counters...
thelustfulkid the one time he countered he got killed for it haha
Most counters in the game, as Nope Lol said with Peach, are super punishable. It's why you don't see characters like Peach and most of the FE crew use it, or if they do it's super rare. I co-main Lucina (although I use Cloud most) and don't really ever go for Counter.