Businesspeople when they realize that paying someone for the time taken to do work, instead of expecting them to do homework like schoolchildren is effective... 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
The brilliant part is getting thousands of hardworking people to accept working without the ability to form unions. This odd, turtle looking individual doesn’t deserve to be a billionaire. Making meetings more productive and efficient is something a McDonald’s manager could achieve😂
That’s actually genius. Everyone has the information fresh in their heads. The same amount of time was spent, regardless, and the meeting can progress with everyone on the same page. Makes sense to me.
I used to work at amazon- this changes nothing. People who wouldn't do their homework in school will space out and/or skim the background material. The only good thing about it meetings at Amazon is that Amazonians are incredible at working backwards to the root of an issue, without needing things dumbed-down, analogized, or powerpointed.
This is an important principle: work with peoples natural deficiencies. Rather than saying “you didn’t read the 6 page report! You’re fired!” You structure things in a way that bypasses natural tendencies. Obviously it’s a good system, who are we to argue with these best business practices when Amazon is worth 1.5 trillion. So many obvious things are written off because there is this thing where we enjoy punishing someone that didn’t do something. If a crosswalk takes 8 minutes to turn to green after a button is pressed to cross, we shouldn’t be surprised when people jump the light, we should change the design so that people don’t have to wait 8 minutes to cross a street. So many examples where we think the solution is to punish the person for not obeying the rules, when the rules themselves are shortsighted
As someone who works at Amazon it’s worth mentioning that these types of meeting are usually when you want to pitch in a new product idea or a new process for a team. Not all meetings are like this. You still have those meeting that every company has - the weekly reviews, chats with colleagues etc. It is a strange thing at first the 6 page memo format but it really does make people be on the same page and have constructive feedback from everyone at the same time
He is not to be admired. Amazon is built on its warehouse workers and drivers who in most parts of the world are treated horrifically. A person to be admired is his ex-wife who’s given billions away to charity because no one on this planet can morally or ethically be a billionaire.
The brilliance lies in the fact that everyone is aligned, comprehending the content thoroughly, and the information they have absorbed remains vivid in their thoughts. This remarkable synchrony fosters an intellectually stimulating atmosphere.
@@Ryan-lk8zl I don’t know what you’re replying to me for ? Would you like to be overworked and underpaid with 0 room for error , when the executives get extra time to read that’s part of their job and they can’t find an hour in the day to read , that’s a fukin joke
He also has people speak based on seniority where the most junior person speaks first & then the next with Bezos speaking last because people often don’t want to contradict someone above them especially someone they respect. So in this way he gets to hear more clearly what people actually think instead of what they think Bezos wants to hear.
I remember being in a required Monday morning meeting as a new executive at a publicly traded company. The GM headed the meeting weekly. After 4 hours of mind numbing boredom listening to each department head reading what their department did the previous week, a summary was made by a secretary who kept notes. I asked if the format could be changed to stating the major problems each department head was facing where s/he needed help solving the problem(s). The meeting shortened from 4+ hours to less than 1 hour. 😮 I’m an old retired scientist (octogenarian). I can’t believe how inefficient humans are.
will carve out 30 minutes for execs to sit and read memos, but won't carve out 5 minutes for the backbone of the business to take a piss. What a smart guy.
As an Amazon driver you can take a bathroom break whenever you want, you just have to work it into your timing. Listen to the guy, does he sound like someone who would try to prevent the inevitable (everyone has to go to the bathroom)? Amazon driver training discusses how to integrate bathroom breaks and driving in order to get the route done and the driver home as optimal as possible.
It’s so important to question tradition or conventions. There’s so many ways to accomplish things more efficiently that have been stifled by tradition and establishment thinking. It’s not wrong to question even though you’ll be made to feel like it is.
Often at Amazon we end up having doc meetings for things that could have been 5 minute coffee conversations in the hallway. From an engineer's perspective, these meetings are midway between coffee break chats and brainstorming sessions with other engineers where innovation happens. There are very few situations where you need these meetings, but they are unfortunately the norm. This is one of those things that actually make amazon go slower than faster; valuable engineering time is spent on authoring documents rather than deploying it into creative outflows. It's a culture that's very much perpetuated by managers.
@mk810 thats what it should be, but the truth is Amazon has become focused only on what can be done in a year. So you dont have speed or big ideas. If you think about what Amazon has done well at its actually only things they had a huge head start on. Retail and Aws were the first of their kind. Same with kindle and alexa. What progfan is saying is 100% correct, the document culture is often detrimental to engineering.
I would ask how often in 2024 do you expect to have coffee conversation with fellow co workers? Quite a few engineer have a Hero complex. Where they think they can just solve the problem by there self quicker than including the team/company. That can lead to ALOT of issues in both the present and future.
The first thing I thought of is that if whoever is running the meeting didn't have to spend 4 hours preparing the memo, and 8 people didn't have to sit around for 30 minutes each reading it, that would be a full 8 hour work day for one person that could be spent actually accomplishing things. Maybe do an agenda, and a 10 minute brief on the topic. Cut it down to 2 hours of lost time instead of 8. I mean yeah, there are meetings where this would be a good idea. For certain major projects and decisions. But that should be like one per department or team per month at most. Any more than that and your wasting a lot of time somewhere.
Really bro .. instead of saying hmm, that’s interesting maybe I do that one day when I have a company or tell my boss. Really this is what you are thinking..
@@jagotiberan2181nah hes too smart for that, or at least not steroids like regular people use bro is one of the richest people to ever exist, he uses childrens blood or some shit
This is definitely a clever approach to improve meetings efficiency and effectiveness. However, it’s interesting to note how meetings have increasingly occupied a larger and larger than portion of the available working time, to the point where nowadays you have to question and wonder how sustainable this model is.
Then we throw around a few starter questions like "can we contractually harvest our workers organs due to work accidents" it's just a free flow of innovative ideas, then we have pizza 😊
As someone who worked for the company for nearly a decade six-pagers and white papers became an absolute burden. The emphasis on the papers slowed innovation.
@@rickybobby7775 The problem is the basic principle of time savings by using a scrappy data driven narrative to drive discussion has been lost. These days there are multiple layers of meetings and doc reviews before the docs are "presented" to a decision maker. It can be 4-6 weeks of back and forth reviewing the document before the problem is truly discussed.
one of the only good things about Amazon's cut-throat culture is that, if you are the type to schedule meetings that should have been emails, you will not last long. The reality of this policy is that people always get this 'memo' before the meeting, it is never 6-pages long (its always a paragraph, written in an active tone, with possible solutions), and if consensus can be had over email, someone _will_ respond with "I don't think we need to meet about this" Amazon is a horrible place to work, but it's not because of the usual corporate incompetence- it's because everyone is hyper-competitive, and political.
@@asdfbeauWhy would Jeff Bezos lie about this. There are thousands of workers are different job types. They might not do things the same way. This is how him and his executives do meetings.
I worked at a company where Amazon was a customer/partner. Each month we had a review meeting where our team had spent hours preparing a review document for Amazon, then we would turn up to a meeting and have to wait half an hour in silence whilst the Amazon team read through the report. I never understood why they did this every time. This video finally explains to me what the heck was going on. I always just assumed they were always unprepared and unprofessional. Never once did they explain why they wanted the first 30 minutes to read.
I'm sure if there is repetition (he mentions margins etc). Then the reports can be highly automated using power bi or tableau. You would just need to type conclusions / commentary.
Most employees hate meetings. However as an employer, I want everyone to see it as a learning session for everyone, for everyone to be on board with a strategy and even challenge it and form a discussion afterwards. Meetings may seem dull but from my perspective it shows me what you’re capable of contributing to the company.
People contribute to the company by working there and providing a service that you need. You think the average worker gives a shit about a meeting on how they can make the company more money?
This is how I leverage guided notes in my classroom. People who would observe me would say that I’m taking too long at the beginning why would I make the kids sit there and read for 10 minutes but for me it never turned out to be a waste of time, it was always investmentinformation so we can have intelligent conversations for the rest of the time and class
Happens in academia, too. Specifically, research science. You'll be teaching classes, grading students, having meetings, performing experiments, reading up on research, and then your lab supervisor will assign everyone a 12-page science paper to read for the upcoming group meeting that week, and he or she will expect everyone to come to the meeting not only having read it, but have taken notes, completely understood it, and to offer commentary about it. I can count on one hand the number of times those kinds of meetings have been truly beneficial and efficient for everyone involved. I don't know what it is that makes higher-ups lose sight of reality, but very few of them actually understand what it means to "work smarter, not harder."
But he won’t carve out the time for the employees who actually do the work. They piss in bottles and work in shit conditions so Lex can act like bezos is a humanitarian
yep. I was a delivery driver. didn't even have time to take my breaks. I was pissing In bottles in the back of the van. and they take an hour out of my pay each day for a break I couldn't even take. worse place to work.
people like to hate on him and the ethical aspects of amazon may be questioned, but purely as a management strategy, this is really clever and solves indeed the issue of no one preparing and then having a messy meeting.
Translation: highly-paid executives can’t be bothered to do thirty minutes of work independently, need to be treated like literal school children The myth of the meritocracy continues.
I mean, it's not a dumb idea. Each person there also has jobs to do and deadlines to meet. Once they get that information, that also has to be digested for their section that's relevant to them. That, and it also directs your attention fully towards the meeting. The military has 1/3rd, 2/rds rule. Where higher ups get 1/3rd the time to plan and the remaining 2/3rds for subordinates to plan and execute.
Excellent meeting process. I’ve had bosses come in and say ok what is your dept like and what problems or areas can we improve in. No structure no direction just end up pointing fingers at why your dept did poorly or why you are having problems instead of going about it in a conversation to get better and talking about making real changes for results
This is an idea popularized by Edward Tufte. Visual communication is far faster for most people, so Tufte has advocated for people to do this instead using text and graphics in the memos so people can absorb as much as possible before discussion, so that the conversation focuses on solution instead of data collection.
Great idea, but it does need those memos to be brilliantly written and crafted to the extent that people can discuss them meaningfully immediately afterwards without having to fact-check or challenge
This is so smart. Read about this practice at Amazon a few years ago. For a few weeks, tried it at the company I worked at. I did the pre-work and let everyone know in advance. Lots of people literally refused to do it. So I stopped doing it and everyone *happily* went back to “just reading the email in advance.” Of course, they just kept coming to meetings unprepared, not having an effing clue. People are 🐑 , man, I’ll tell you.
He is brilliant and successful - everything he said about how he manages is the opposite of what most companies do, because most companies are run poorly
It’s better than going to a meeting for your boss and get there to meet everyone else’s stand in and no one know what the meting is supposed to be about. The meeting to discuss when the next meeting will be. And no one brought food so it was pretty productive and saved the company money.
This is correct. For every new design document we have a meeting where we spend 20-30 mins to read it in silence. Then we provide high level comments, and then dive into the details.
I remember sitting exams at school many years ago where you weren't allowed to write anything for the first 5 (?) minutes to ensure you read the first page with the instructions.
Six page memo should be knocked down to 3, preferably 2. If you are all together in one meeting, then the discussion should take up the 80% of the time, so you can get away with half the content on the pages. Meetings that cross the 45-minute mark lends itself to bog down by idle fatigue, or attention drop at the very least.
Can just imagine the awkwardness of silently reading in that room with a group of people, being last to finish and needing to fart really bad whilst Jeff is staring you down.. 😂😂😂
Very true, I know I'm certainly guilty of attending meetings having only skimmed through the preliminary stuff due to lack of time. And I'm sure it led to my suggestions being lack-luster at best.
That's very smart, maybe i should ask every interviewer to stop asking stupid questions and read my cv before starting the actual interview as they are literally asking what's in my cv
I know everyone is focused on the messaging here, but I worked at amazon so I am all too familiar with the meeting structure. What blows me away is how deep Jeff’s voice has gotten since taking testosterone and retiring. It’s insanely different from his normal speaking voice while at amazon.
He basically knows human nature and knows people will cut corners people will only do the minimum and such, so he comes up with ways to get them engaged, no excuses. He wants to solve real issues that affect his company and holds people feet to the fire. That's why he's worth 119 billion. Anyway hey it's working 😇
TH-cam University needs to show some videos on how to read memos like this, etc. Just a tip for some of you youtubers reading this and say this and that about college... if you want to add everything college offers and more
the "pretending to have read and understood" is the most toxic part of it. Trying to be productive, while keeping appearances and managing ego and reputation. So yeah, create a system that gets rid of it, i'm on board
Carve out the dedicated time.
Brilliant.
Businesspeople when they realize that paying someone for the time taken to do work, instead of expecting them to do homework like schoolchildren is effective...
🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
@@DingleFlopit’s funny you have 1/90th the likes
Humans are idiots
The brilliant part is getting thousands of hardworking people to accept working without the ability to form unions. This odd, turtle looking individual doesn’t deserve to be a billionaire. Making meetings more productive and efficient is something a McDonald’s manager could achieve😂
Yeah I don’t know why people get glazed up over this basic sht
Giving your people time to do the work they're paid for? Brilliant!!
That’s actually genius. Everyone has the information fresh in their heads. The same amount of time was spent, regardless, and the meeting can progress with everyone on the same page. Makes sense to me.
Sound regular to me
Genius? Lol
@@thrillhouse4784 “you’ll never be criticized by anyone doing more than you”
I used to work at amazon- this changes nothing. People who wouldn't do their homework in school will space out and/or skim the background material.
The only good thing about it meetings at Amazon is that Amazonians are incredible at working backwards to the root of an issue, without needing things dumbed-down, analogized, or powerpointed.
The issue would be it's more synchronous time which at times can be hard to schedule
This is an important principle: work with peoples natural deficiencies. Rather than saying “you didn’t read the 6 page report! You’re fired!” You structure things in a way that bypasses natural tendencies. Obviously it’s a good system, who are we to argue with these best business practices when Amazon is worth 1.5 trillion. So many obvious things are written off because there is this thing where we enjoy punishing someone that didn’t do something. If a crosswalk takes 8 minutes to turn to green after a button is pressed to cross, we shouldn’t be surprised when people jump the light, we should change the design so that people don’t have to wait 8 minutes to cross a street. So many examples where we think the solution is to punish the person for not obeying the rules, when the rules themselves are shortsighted
Well said
They are a monopoly
So well said
@@ZeusZar Amazon BECAME a monopoly, there's a reason Amazon became what it is, the competition couldn't keep up
@@noam8314they have never had real competition 😂
As someone who works at Amazon it’s worth mentioning that these types of meeting are usually when you want to pitch in a new product idea or a new process for a team. Not all meetings are like this. You still have those meeting that every company has - the weekly reviews, chats with colleagues etc.
It is a strange thing at first the 6 page memo format but it really does make people be on the same page and have constructive feedback from everyone at the same time
any advice on landing an AE position? I tried once a year ago, but no dice!
Do you have to piss in a bottle or are you one of the employees they see as human?
Bro isn't vested so he can't talk shii 😂
Is Bezos at these meetings with you ?
@@gobblegoblinthat's a great question. 😂 I'm guessing they view this one as a human.
Taking the saying, "Let's get on the same page" to a new level
Crazy how simple and yet incredibly effective that is
Agreed
Yes.
The entire interview is a showcase of this mans drive, ambition and genius.
He is not to be admired. Amazon is built on its warehouse workers and drivers who in most parts of the world are treated horrifically.
A person to be admired is his ex-wife who’s given billions away to charity because no one on this planet can morally or ethically be a billionaire.
Holy bootlicker
“Psychopathy”
@@michaeleverson9465stop playah hatin
WHOS thé interviewer?
Admits the problem exists and carefully solves it. Genius.
More like just using common sense
@@petershaw6346 Say you havent worked in corporate america without saying you havent worked in corporate america. Common sense is anything but common.
The brilliance lies in the fact that everyone is aligned, comprehending the content thoroughly, and the information they have absorbed remains vivid in their thoughts. This remarkable synchrony fosters an intellectually stimulating atmosphere.
Brilliant isn’t it!
If only he treated the lower level employees with such kindness and understanding
blah blah blah woe is you
@@Ryan-lk8zl I don’t know what you’re replying to me for ? Would you like to be overworked and underpaid with 0 room for error , when the executives get extra time to read that’s part of their job and they can’t find an hour in the day to read , that’s a fukin joke
There's no kindness or empathy being described here. He's just trying to make meetings as efficient and effective as possible...
Bro !! Build a company and do it !
He does not even know the lower paid employees and he litteraly cant know them🤷♂️
He also has people speak based on seniority where the most junior person speaks first & then the next with Bezos speaking last because people often don’t want to contradict someone above them especially someone they respect. So in this way he gets to hear more clearly what people actually think instead of what they think Bezos wants to hear.
I remember being in a required Monday morning meeting as a new executive at a publicly traded company. The GM headed the meeting weekly. After 4 hours of mind numbing boredom listening to each department head reading what their department did the previous week, a summary was made by a secretary who kept notes. I asked if the format could be changed to stating the major problems each department head was facing where s/he needed help solving the problem(s). The meeting shortened from 4+ hours to less than 1 hour. 😮 I’m an old retired scientist (octogenarian). I can’t believe how inefficient humans are.
When humans get together, that's when things grind to a halt
@@xpusostomosi would say more when humans get together shit gets done but when a LOT of humans get together it slows down
will carve out 30 minutes for execs to sit and read memos, but won't carve out 5 minutes for the backbone of the business to take a piss.
What a smart guy.
5 minutes?! Not even 30seconds.
"back bone" lol, you really think a lot of the easily replaceable grunts that doesn't make any difference if they had an break or not
@@stefthorman8548ewww a class traitor🤢🤮
I worked there from 99 to 2015. Loved this part. Very effective.
I love how he carves out time for his execs but can't give his drivers a piss break.
Exactly
one is the brains and thinkers, the other is the endless, mindless, muscle, which one do you think needs more time to think?
As an Amazon driver you can take a bathroom break whenever you want, you just have to work it into your timing. Listen to the guy, does he sound like someone who would try to prevent the inevitable (everyone has to go to the bathroom)? Amazon driver training discusses how to integrate bathroom breaks and driving in order to get the route done and the driver home as optimal as possible.
@@FreejackVesa sounds like? No it's what happens.
@@jwilson2500 no, it's not. I know what the training says.
He just looks like the Michelin man wearing a Jeff bezos suit
Great to know the micro management even happens at the highest level
It’s so important to question tradition or conventions. There’s so many ways to accomplish things more efficiently that have been stifled by tradition and establishment thinking.
It’s not wrong to question even though you’ll be made to feel like it is.
"I'm popeye the sailor man.
I'm popeye the sailor man......"
😂
pooo poooo
...........with billions in assets, im popeye the amazon man
I hate how he treats his workers but I admire the situational awareness. Study hall is a great idea to engage people.
Often at Amazon we end up having doc meetings for things that could have been 5 minute coffee conversations in the hallway. From an engineer's perspective, these meetings are midway between coffee break chats and brainstorming sessions with other engineers where innovation happens. There are very few situations where you need these meetings, but they are unfortunately the norm. This is one of those things that actually make amazon go slower than faster; valuable engineering time is spent on authoring documents rather than deploying it into creative outflows. It's a culture that's very much perpetuated by managers.
But is that because they are focused on building the best long term, rather than caring about speed/profitability?
@mk810 thats what it should be, but the truth is Amazon has become focused only on what can be done in a year. So you dont have speed or big ideas. If you think about what Amazon has done well at its actually only things they had a huge head start on. Retail and Aws were the first of their kind. Same with kindle and alexa.
What progfan is saying is 100% correct, the document culture is often detrimental to engineering.
Great insight, please share more if you have time. How big is amazons engineering staff?
I would ask how often in 2024 do you expect to have coffee conversation with fellow co workers? Quite a few engineer have a Hero complex. Where they think they can just solve the problem by there self quicker than including the team/company. That can lead to ALOT of issues in both the present and future.
The first thing I thought of is that if whoever is running the meeting didn't have to spend 4 hours preparing the memo, and 8 people didn't have to sit around for 30 minutes each reading it, that would be a full 8 hour work day for one person that could be spent actually accomplishing things. Maybe do an agenda, and a 10 minute brief on the topic. Cut it down to 2 hours of lost time instead of 8.
I mean yeah, there are meetings where this would be a good idea. For certain major projects and decisions. But that should be like one per department or team per month at most. Any more than that and your wasting a lot of time somewhere.
And this is why Amazon is so successful. Wow. I love this so much.
No its “successful” because its exploits thousands of underpaid workers who actually make the company run
Is bezos taking growth hormone? His head has been looking huge
Really bro .. instead of saying hmm, that’s interesting maybe I do that one day when I have a company or tell my boss. Really this is what you are thinking..
100% bezos uses steroids
I think it's trt , after years of peaking in your 50's , it's not normal.
@@jagotiberan2181nah hes too smart for that, or at least not steroids like regular people use bro is one of the richest people to ever exist, he uses childrens blood or some shit
@@texasdude1he is on something much stronger than trt 😂
This is definitely a clever approach to improve meetings efficiency and effectiveness. However, it’s interesting to note how meetings have increasingly occupied a larger and larger than portion of the available working time, to the point where nowadays you have to question and wonder how sustainable this model is.
They can make time for the office workers to read the memos, but can't make time for the warehouse workers to take a piss break.Amazing.
Exactly
this is about effective communication, so yes, they can make time to make the business better
Love that type of organizing. Present, supportive, and functional.
Then we throw around a few starter questions like "can we contractually harvest our workers organs due to work accidents" it's just a free flow of innovative ideas, then we have pizza 😊
As a teacher, I do exactly the same thing with my students. It’s usually 10 minutes on average but basically the exact same thing.
As someone who worked for the company for nearly a decade six-pagers and white papers became an absolute burden. The emphasis on the papers slowed innovation.
In what ways would make the experience better and increase the effectiveness of those meetings? Less meetings? Digital meetings only?
@@rickybobby7775 The problem is the basic principle of time savings by using a scrappy data driven narrative to drive discussion has been lost. These days there are multiple layers of meetings and doc reviews before the docs are "presented" to a decision maker. It can be 4-6 weeks of back and forth reviewing the document before the problem is truly discussed.
What a clever idea. Takes something special to see the problem, not just disapprove but actually turn dysfunction into super function.
That also forces the person who sets the meeting to do their homework and prepare.
“Legendary” thing impacting 0.02% of people who ever worked for Amazon
I like that, plus work stays at work😎🤣
That really is smart. He knows people won't read or properly take in the info in advance, so forces dedicated time to take it in
Now if only he also respected the time of all the rest of his employees instead of just the executives we might get somewhere
They are free to quit whenever they want.
@@bobbygetsbanned6049 not if they’ll be homeless if they quit? No one is working an Amazon warehouse because they like it lmao
I worked a job where we would start the day with a meeting similar to this. this really felt like the most productive part of the day.
That definitely sounds like a meeting that could have been an email.
one of the only good things about Amazon's cut-throat culture is that, if you are the type to schedule meetings that should have been emails, you will not last long.
The reality of this policy is that people always get this 'memo' before the meeting, it is never 6-pages long (its always a paragraph, written in an active tone, with possible solutions), and if consensus can be had over email, someone _will_ respond with "I don't think we need to meet about this"
Amazon is a horrible place to work, but it's not because of the usual corporate incompetence- it's because everyone is hyper-competitive, and political.
@@asdfbeauWhy would Jeff Bezos lie about this. There are thousands of workers are different job types. They might not do things the same way. This is how him and his executives do meetings.
Theyd skim read it or not read it at all like he said in the video
I worked at a company where Amazon was a customer/partner. Each month we had a review meeting where our team had spent hours preparing a review document for Amazon, then we would turn up to a meeting and have to wait half an hour in silence whilst the Amazon team read through the report.
I never understood why they did this every time. This video finally explains to me what the heck was going on. I always just assumed they were always unprepared and unprofessional. Never once did they explain why they wanted the first 30 minutes to read.
But he doesn't allow his delivery drivers adequate wage to have time to stop to use the toilet 😂
Great idea. I don't even want to think about all the time I've wasted in meaningless meetings because no one prepared for said meeting.
"Did you get the memo about the TPS reports?
Don’t force people to adapt, you adapt to people
Sounds good for the executives, but brutal for everyone else drafting and revising memo after memo. Takes their time way from value-added work
I'm sure if there is repetition (he mentions margins etc). Then the reports can be highly automated using power bi or tableau.
You would just need to type conclusions / commentary.
That is their value added work.
I think it's great because it prevents people from wasting coworkers time by calling meetings for issues they haven't though through themselves.
Dont see the issue
Most employees hate meetings. However as an employer, I want everyone to see it as a learning session for everyone, for everyone to be on board with a strategy and even challenge it and form a discussion afterwards. Meetings may seem dull but from my perspective it shows me what you’re capable of contributing to the company.
This is why your employees hate you
People contribute to the company by working there and providing a service that you need. You think the average worker gives a shit about a meeting on how they can make the company more money?
@@toasterlordtoasterlord4224 the less you learn, the less you earn
but amazon cannot carve out the time for their warehouse workers to go to the bathroom without being fired.
This is how I leverage guided notes in my classroom. People who would observe me would say that I’m taking too long at the beginning why would I make the kids sit there and read for 10 minutes but for me it never turned out to be a waste of time, it was always investmentinformation so we can have intelligent conversations for the rest of the time and class
Isn't he the guy that makes employees pee in bottles?
Well yea you can’t maximize shareholder value without doing so
What a beautiful and such a touching empathy for the executive, too bad they treat everyone under like garbage.
empathy? this has nothing to do with empathy, this is about being efficient, you know, the same thing he's doing with his grunts?
Fun fact....5 of those pages could have just been an email.
You missed the whole point. Yes it could be sent in an email, but then it’s skimmed through or ignored like most emails.
How could it have been an email when the meeting itself was to discuss what was on those pages?
I'm amazed you managed to miss the point so badly
Happens in academia, too. Specifically, research science. You'll be teaching classes, grading students, having meetings, performing experiments, reading up on research, and then your lab supervisor will assign everyone a 12-page science paper to read for the upcoming group meeting that week, and he or she will expect everyone to come to the meeting not only having read it, but have taken notes, completely understood it, and to offer commentary about it. I can count on one hand the number of times those kinds of meetings have been truly beneficial and efficient for everyone involved. I don't know what it is that makes higher-ups lose sight of reality, but very few of them actually understand what it means to "work smarter, not harder."
But he won’t carve out the time for the employees who actually do the work. They piss in bottles and work in shit conditions so Lex can act like bezos is a humanitarian
To be honest it sounds like he struggles with basic mathematics so that might not be intentional.
yep. I was a delivery driver. didn't even have time to take my breaks. I was pissing In bottles in the back of the van. and they take an hour out of my pay each day for a break I couldn't even take. worse place to work.
@@ivanlll4985True shit. Screw Lex for humanizing and platforming bozos
@@ivanlll4985that sucks :/ I’ve heard so many horror stories from the warehouse workers also. F*ck Bezos.
people like to hate on him and the ethical aspects of amazon may be questioned, but purely as a management strategy, this is really clever and solves indeed the issue of no one preparing and then having a messy meeting.
Translation: highly-paid executives can’t be bothered to do thirty minutes of work independently, need to be treated like literal school children
The myth of the meritocracy continues.
I mean, it's not a dumb idea. Each person there also has jobs to do and deadlines to meet. Once they get that information, that also has to be digested for their section that's relevant to them.
That, and it also directs your attention fully towards the meeting.
The military has 1/3rd, 2/rds rule. Where higher ups get 1/3rd the time to plan and the remaining 2/3rds for subordinates to plan and execute.
Finally a video like this that is actually entertaining
imagine getting paid 6 figures but not being able to read for 30min to do what they're paid to do
You also have a ton of other stuff to take care of, so not easy to be 100% on page with everything
Did you not watch the video and hear him explain it to you
They're getting paid a lot more than 6 figures 😂 Execs at Amazon would be in the high 7s or even in the 8s
Excellent meeting process. I’ve had bosses come in and say ok what is your dept like and what problems or areas can we improve in. No structure no direction just end up pointing fingers at why your dept did poorly or why you are having problems instead of going about it in a conversation to get better and talking about making real changes for results
As someone that works at Amazon. This is a true statement and very common. Brilliant!
This is an idea popularized by Edward Tufte. Visual communication is far faster for most people, so Tufte has advocated for people to do this instead using text and graphics in the memos so people can absorb as much as possible before discussion, so that the conversation focuses on solution instead of data collection.
Great idea, but it does need those memos to be brilliantly written and crafted to the extent that people can discuss them meaningfully immediately afterwards without having to fact-check or challenge
Simple, meet people where they are. The complicated part is building yourself up to the caliber of person that can do that with almost anyone.
That is so real! Leadership who is aware connected in tune and realistic!
He has so many brilliant ideas. All small things that make a big difference.
I was expecting the comment section to be full with haters but yeah .people are appreciating things that should be appreciated
Those elevated discussions are all you need. No more wandering thoughts & focus.
And peeing in bottles
This is so smart. Read about this practice at Amazon a few years ago. For a few weeks, tried it at the company I worked at. I did the pre-work and let everyone know in advance. Lots of people literally refused to do it. So I stopped doing it and everyone *happily* went back to “just reading the email in advance.” Of course, they just kept coming to meetings unprepared, not having an effing clue. People are 🐑 , man, I’ll tell you.
He is brilliant and successful - everything he said about how he manages is the opposite of what most companies do, because most companies are run poorly
After they read the paper...they roll it up and smoke it. That is the part that really elevates the meeting.
It’s better than going to a meeting for your boss and get there to meet everyone else’s stand in and no one know what the meting is supposed to be about. The meeting to discuss when the next meeting will be. And no one brought food so it was pretty productive and saved the company money.
This is correct. For every new design document we have a meeting where we spend 20-30 mins to read it in silence. Then we provide high level comments, and then dive into the details.
He's operating on an excellent principle. Take human nature into account. Don't be angry with someone acts like a person. Use that to your advantage.
I would hope there's the option to request the memo ahead of time if needed, for a difficult meeting subject. But other than that, I like this.
VERY impressive to me as an MBA-Student
I remember sitting exams at school many years ago where you weren't allowed to write anything for the first 5 (?) minutes to ensure you read the first page with the instructions.
That’s actually a fantastic idea. If people are going to do it anyways, instead of fighting a losing battle just roll with it and make it work.
When you circulate your annual leave, add "and all emails will be deleted". Try it.
Certainly avoids many unnecessary meetings. As it is actually work to organize one.
I was at first thinking... Oh geez... Come on... And then after he explained it, it made total sense...
I would love that, although i do tend to read beforehand and have notes/questions about certain points already written down.
Six page memo should be knocked down to 3, preferably 2. If you are all together in one meeting, then the discussion should take up the 80% of the time, so you can get away with half the content on the pages. Meetings that cross the 45-minute mark lends itself to bog down by idle fatigue, or attention drop at the very least.
"Carve out time for people" amazing.
“…. and now we can have a really elevated discussion” 👨⚖️
Can just imagine the awkwardness of silently reading in that room with a group of people, being last to finish and needing to fart really bad whilst Jeff is staring you down.. 😂😂😂
we adapted that into our company after working with AMZ for a bit now!
Jeff Bezos is a genius and focused individual.
There is a reason why this guy is successful
Bezos sees things other people just don't, just like musk, truly the geniuses of our generation
Very true, I know I'm certainly guilty of attending meetings having only skimmed through the preliminary stuff due to lack of time. And I'm sure it led to my suggestions being lack-luster at best.
That's very smart, maybe i should ask every interviewer to stop asking stupid questions and read my cv before starting the actual interview as they are literally asking what's in my cv
**Love that game called:**
_"First to fart has to sell 10% of their stock"_ 😂😂😂
Can’t argue with the level of success this has created.
this is considered "legendary aspects" Filmmarkers do this pretty normally with script reads lol
That sounds like a good use of time if all can process the information at a similar rate.
Yea, I worked there. No meeting I ever attended is structured like this.
Good idea. It’s the same way I feel about schools and homework.
I know everyone is focused on the messaging here, but I worked at amazon so I am all too familiar with the meeting structure. What blows me away is how deep Jeff’s voice has gotten since taking testosterone and retiring. It’s insanely different from his normal speaking voice while at amazon.
He basically knows human nature and knows people will cut corners people will only do the minimum and such, so he comes up with ways to get them engaged, no excuses. He wants to solve real issues that affect his company and holds people feet to the fire. That's why he's worth 119 billion. Anyway hey it's working 😇
I would seriously love that environment.
TH-cam University needs to show some videos on how to read memos like this, etc. Just a tip for some of you youtubers reading this and say this and that about college... if you want to add everything college offers and more
the "pretending to have read and understood" is the most toxic part of it. Trying to be productive, while keeping appearances and managing ego and reputation. So yeah, create a system that gets rid of it, i'm on board
* stares at page for 30 minutes and draws *