Don Lemon is probably one of the worst interviewers around. He is a gotcha interviewer and is not interested in actually understanding the person he interviews. I would not waste my time on his show ever.
I was taught growing up to judge people by their actions not by what they look like. I hate to have to say this I am white and 55 I really don’t understand this focus on race or the twisting up of history under the guise of equality.
I have a lot of respect for Elon watching this. He’s like a patient father trying to explain something he’s already explained five times to a four-year-old.
It always amazes me that there is no professional ethics training or standards in media. Imagine if they had to get certified like engineers, doctors, lawyers etc so people would know they are serious about the job. Instead we get clowns that will say anything to become famous solely for money and fame under the claim of "its free speech".
My brother in law and my sister are both professors at a university and I know for a fact that they were forced by the administration to lower the standards of exams and that's a fact.
@@markmalone3025 DEI is lowering standards so a minority will get the equal number of positions regardless of their talent. Surgeons are saying this. It is happening in all professions------pilots, doctors, teachers, ceo's and technicians. Don Lemon is badgering every topic. .Elon, please DO NOT have him on again.
@@johnsjohnson448 Nah... in 1965, there were intelligent interviewers about in Britain, such as Ludovic Kennedy, Robin Day, John Freeman, Alan Whicker, Bill Rushton, a young David Frost and many more like them. In the US, there had been the likes of the wonderful Edward R Murrow, who died in 1965 (very well-respected and admired by my parents' generation over here in Britain), and I'm sure that Americans could add many other great American interviewers to that of Mr Murrow's name. Lemon and all other TV journalists/presenters of his ilk are an insult to their memory.
@@yvonnewalesuk8035 I am unfamiliar with many of the names you listed, but will check them out. LOL. Tom Snyder was terrific, Dick Cavett, and others. Don Lemon's substance abuse issues and narcissism delifed his career. He is lazy too.
DEI does not mean lowered standards. I am black and I don’t want to be employed on lower standards. We are the top of our game in most endeavours and I don’t need any one lowering standards for me. That would be tokenism and a complete insult. I hear you Elon.
@@dotolaj3263 but that is exactly what it means, bro. It’s just common sense that when you put ANYTHING above qualifications, especially something as trivial as what race/gender someone is, you’re lowering the standards.
_“DEI does not mean lowered standards.”_ *BUAHAHAHA!!!* You clearly haven’t a clue what DEI is then! I’m embarrassed for you. Even moreso too that you think you guys are “at the top of your game in most endeavors.” Talk about delusional!
I am a medical doctor and surgeon , working in Germany , Spain and now in France and I think 100% like Mr Musk , we can not lower the standards , which is happening all over the place , thanks Mr Musk for speaking clearly ...!!!
As i stated, Life has no need for medicine. It promotes insecurity. Vietnam for 20 years. Laos a year, Australia { yes all of it} 14 months, Singapore a year, Mongolia 2 years, Thailand 6 months, Kazakhstan a year, Austria a year { Kindenburg}, Indonesia a year, New Zealand a year, Cambodia 2 years, Croatia 6 months, Nigeria a year, Spain a year, Senegal 6 months, Portugal 2 weeks { that was a holiday}, Taiwan a year, Russia { from peter's burgh to Asian windy city} for the best part of learning,Huston, New York, California to understand ignorance, Italy { North 3 months}, Guyana a year, Siriname 6 months, Brazil for a day because I got lost. From Scotland. Your { I am } already tells me what you want to be. Musk is good. He adventures with empathy.
Yep, he was very patient but fired him immediately after. Kept his cool…then took care of the issue. Let me ask this….would you interview your multibillionaire CEO like this and expect a pat on the back? Nope.
not sure if it was cut but one time he said 'there is evidence' then he just jumped to the next question that's really childish, even a 'fock you' is more mature xD
Define ‘hate speech’. Literally _anything_ can be viewed as hateful. The entire concept is a ridiculous excuse for certain individuals to control what others think and say.
And often pointlessly, like a disagreeable toddler not giving up on wanting a cookie before dinner despite seeing there are no cookies left in the jar. It's as if as long as you're attempting to antagonize someone, that's good enough for that brand of _journalism._
It's intentional. He's hoping Elon will get angry but he's so much more clever than Don. He can see what sloppy Don is trying to do. Let's moderate Don Lemon's speech because I think it's hate speech.
he knows where he stands morally and doesn't change it for others, you have to respect that in a child let alone the richest man ever. his biography "Elon Musk" is a must read/listen to!!
I'm sure Elon has 1million more pressing things to do than waste his time with this line of well he seems to be trying to start an argument it's pure nonsense from Lemon ...
I don’t know how Elon Musk does it arguing with idiots every day of the week, but I’m so proud of him, and so grateful that he keeps fighting the fight for all of us
The analogy of the surgeon and lowering standards is precisely the argument I have been making for years!!! Im a female pilot. Im a pilot because I worked my backside off (and continue to do so) to make sure that not only I am as good as my male counterparts, but often exceeded them becoming a prominent instructor and examiner in the industry. Im there because of merit not because of my gender. I would never get on an aeroplane if I knew that someone in the flight deck was there because of DEI. Nor would I expect standards to be lowered because of my gender. In fact, I would be grossly insulted to be given a pilot role because of my gender and not that of my skills, expertise and experience. I 100% agree with Elon Musk.
Maybe he himself is a DEI hire. You can see it in his answers if he was really smart and intelligent he would understand all these nuances. How Elon handled this interview with patience is profound.
@@quacker143 If he were, that is. The word "nuance" (nuances, nuanced, etc.) has been ruined for me ever since a pro-choice progressive Christian follower of mine used it to describe abortion on Facebook. 🤦♀
What is reality if you use a word like unbelieable to sensationalise your own life. A man being told what to say ,,,,against a man living. What are you trying to point out?
This interview from his platform.......I am from nz and I know for a fact that Elon blocks people for holding him to account for he says......and there is a difference between hate speech misinformation and free speech
Seriously!! I'm exhausted watching this. I don't think I would have made it nearly as long as Elon before I just got up and walked out. Apparently Elon really does have stamina for miles. LOL
The top 2 leftist tactics: "No. I'm right. Now agree that I'm right or I keep repeating this until you say I'm right." "You are wrong, this is/is not actually happening."
@@mauricemoody7634Boy if you really believe in what you wrote you're a lost cause for sure. Probably better to keep your opinions at the woke side of social media. You'll be right at home there with the rest of the lunatics.
Does anyone remember the United flight from Maui to CA in December of 2022. The pilots almost flew it into the ocean after taking off. NTSB determined it was due to pilot error, flaps were in the wrong position. I don't care what color my pilot is, I just want he/she to be the most qualified person available for the job.
Exactly, and it's the same reason we discriminate against those who don't pay attention, are drug abusers, show a lack of diligence, etc. There are a lot of non-racial/sex traits that factor in as well. It all falls under the umbrella of merit and merit-based selection.
Elon keeps pushing merit, but Don assumes merit=white (an obvious logical error). But what Lemon doesn't think about is where merit FAVORS POC, like any basketball team. Basketball teams are comprised of mostly black players, but that's because of merit. Why are most nannies female? Merit. Why are all MotoGP racers male? Merit. Females are allowed to race with the men, but they can't qualify (except occasionally in Moto3 where they run as backmarkers, or the slowest riders). Merit must carry the day. Lemon is too dishonest to admit that once one veers from 'merit' and prioritizes race/sex, that standards are by-definition being lowered, even if the top performers are POC and women. Elon should have brought up basketball and other sports where merit is the number one metric for selection.
@@spacep0dLoved the MotoGP reference. 2nd race this weekend. There was 1 female a couple years ago in moto3. I believe shes gone. AMA had Melissa Paris (Josh Hayes wife) Never did that well in the races I saw. On another note Fire departments in California Lowered the standards for entry and for captainship to get more women and people of color in.
@@dublindave5795 Yes, Moto3 (the smallest-displacement class) sometimes has a single woman in it. Last year it was Ana Carrasco, a backmarker. I welcome women in MotoGP, but the pool of male talent is too strong and too large. I've never seen a woman in the premiere class (MotoGP) and I've been watching since Valé won his first premiere class championship.
@@spacep0d If Elon mentioned that black players are better at basketball, well that would imply that he thinks white people are smarter!! and then Lemon and every Elon hater has him dead
He obviously feels comforted by the idea that critics of his opinions are simply stereotyping him as stupid due to his skin complexion. That isn't true of course since most people consider him an idiot mainly because he worked for CNN. Objectively he's actually not as much of an idiot as Whoopi Goldberg of course which is why CNN fired him but kept her on the payroll I suppose. He's certainly not as much of an idiot as Chris Cuomo who only got his job at CNN because he was the brother of a Democratic Governor.
When someone keeps asking you the same question repeatedly, even after you’ve answered it, it’s often just a tactic to get you to agree with their point. It’s like a trap. Imagine them saying, "You don’t really want the blue curtains." And you respond, "Yes, I do." But they keep insisting: "No, you don’t," hoping you’ll eventually say, "Fine, whatever." Then they hand you yellow curtains, call them blue, and record you agreeing, adding drama and music to make it seem like you’re on the same page. If you stick to your answer calmly and move on to the next topic instead of engaging, it drives them nuts. It stops the cycle and keeps you from getting pulled into their agenda.
Don is not being emotional. He's being purposely combative and wrong in his argument, he knows he's wrong, but he doesn't care. He's being wilfully ignorant purposely . He has his far leftist Marxist agenda, and like all far left Marxists , truth is not on their agenda, their agenda is the agenda. And they will lie lie lie lie lie lie and gaslight in every debate to get there opponents to react emotionally... And that's the point, you lie until you get an emotional reaction, then they declare victory. "Look he's behaving irrational, therefore I am correct.. People in abusive relationships with narcissistic partners will recognise this immediately. Don lemon is not a nice person
@@aplusmerchant2281 Musk quoting an argument on what he read on X is laughable and egregious! Don Lemon made Musk nervous and uncomfortable! Kudos to Don for making him uneasy. Don Lemon wasn't emotional. He did his research, unlike Musk, his research came from X.🤣🤣🤣🤣
Sadly this lemon is always going to be a victim! Elon’s not had it easy growing up but he refuses to be a victim! He’s stepped in for the uk because he’s sees just how unjust and corrupt it’s become, and I can’t thank him enough 👏👏🇬🇧🏴
It bugs me when people falsely attribute low IQ to people with stupid ideas and tactics. Lemon is actually pretty good at that passive aggressive guilt tripping nonsense. I mean he isn't exactly a genius but he couldn't be where he is at with an IQ of 80...
Child pornography is ILLEGAL. Speaking freely is NOT. If you don’t like it- scroll on! It is not anyone’s job to monitor the entire social media populace!!!
I have a relative who is actually illiterate, DEI, free undergrad, free med-school, now in residency for surgery, never read a book. He was taught in med-school with pictures. True story.
Poor Don. He can't grasp the concept of having the power to ban something you don't like but NOT exercising that power because it would wreck the concepts of free speech and freedom of expression. Says all you need to know about what people like him would do if they had such power.
@@ThePrisoner881 well said. Hes a just a loaded soldier. Loaded with garbage and if given power would amplify that garbage just like Wikipedia. He would be a little king in his universe. A universe the size of a shoe box.
Elon should have ended this interview as soon as Don started using "moderation" in place of "censorship" pretending to not know they're the same thing.... shame on Lemon
Ok... I "Kind of" see your point... BUT. "Citizen Journalism" requires input from citizens with a degree of critical thinking, together with a lack of confirmation bias. . Unfortunately, most "evidence" I see on social media suggests that not to be the case. . Do you think "Citizen Journalism" and "Indoctrination" are mutually exclusive? . Some might suggest that "Citizen Journalism" may trend towards citizens who are "more enthusiastic" regarding a particular subject, who are more likely to express that opinion on line, being read by those with a similar perspective. . If either the group becomes large enough, or one or more citizens posting organise their effort, or an "outside" person, or organisation notes the trend and subtly manipulates the narrative, you have the beginnings of indoctrination. . Ah! You cry! Community notes! . But those notes rely on a diverse and representative cross section of society, and opinion, being present on the forum. . If certain groups were "put off", while others were attracted, you have "a finger on the scale". . Not saying any of the above is fact, but it must be considered.
@@rogerstarkey5390- The hypocritical claims of citizen journalisms superiority over mainstream media really annoy me. They have made anti-science, anti-vax, racism, sexism, and the acceptance of outright lies and crazy conspiracy theories far more mainstream. The problem with mainstream stream media is three fold. Liberal arts majors who don’t understand technical issues, a loss of editorial staff as cost cuts to deal with declining viewership, and an attempt to fight that decline by becoming as much an entertainment form rather than straight news. Citizen journalism suffers from all of these but worse. 0 editorial review, survival of the clickiest and most entertaining. Mainstream media can follow the heard due to risk aversion, but that is far less damaging than intentional spreading lies and making outlandish statements for clicks and shock value. I really valued Tesla TH-camrs until 3-5 years ago for pointing out erroneous info in the mainstream media and their gullible acceptance of FUD from people who had an interest in Tesla failing. There is still FUD out there but less frequent and treated more skeptically by mainstream stream media. With the drop in this righteous draw and a radical increase in objectionable behavior to many of Musk’s former big fans like me, a huge fraction of Tesla TH-camrs have turned to full time excuse making for Musk. They ignore his hypocrisy, betrayal of goals he used to build cachet, and just generally odious and immature behavior. I saw far worse interviews of both Obama and Bush who handled it with fortitude and humor. Musk is just a thinned skinned middle school level whiner. I he is a stereotypical nerd, brilliant but emotionally stunted. There are a lot of similarities between Musk in me in terms of background, interests and approach to engineering and even in how we responded to bullying with one exception. We both learned to keep Bullies at bay by growing bigger and learning to fight but before I did that to eliminate the last 10 to 20% of bullying I grew a think skin to laugh in their faces at insults. That was sufficient all on its own to stop a majority of bullying because bullies pick on people they see as weak both mentally and physically. Ever since high school when I see a bully I want to fight them verbally or physically. I don’t understand why Musk wants to joint the Bully team and falsely claim they are the ones being bullied.
There's no such thing as hate speech. Because I disagree with the liberals and voice My opinion is not hate speech. Disagreeing with their kuku Agenda is not hate speech.
Obviously Don wants to apply his standard on everything. Everything he says is supposed to be facts, therefore, "evidence" shows Don gets to define what's hateful and what will lead to mass murdering.
Im a surgeon. For the last 50 years at least standards have been lower for black and brown people getting into medical school. This is a fact. In 2015 the cato institute found that a black or brown person had a much higher chance of getting into med school with a college gpa of 3.25 or less compared to white applicants. Blacks 9x higher brown 6x higher. In my public med school in the 80s a third to half the blacks accepted had to repeat the furst year. I wish more qualified minorities applied to medical school but the fact is there arent that many so the standards are lowered to let more in. Is that good for patient care? I think the answer is obvious.
Infiltration of mid levels in medicine (NP adn PAs) is the ultimate lowering of standard in medicine. The entire population including most of the medical professionals are being blind sided by it and the population is paying with their lives. For more and more patients, their health and well being are on the hand of a professional with only 2 year of medical education. We now have NPs or PAs treating patients even in the ICU setting or in the emergency room. If anything, lower the standard and give them few more years of trainig before you through them out in the real world. They also must have training something similar to a residency program for physicians before they are allowed to practice. Patients don't know that, someone that just read a few books for 2 year while working as a nurse and with no hands on experience in patient care, are often in charge of their health. In my openion, the lowering of standar for blacks and brown (only brown that get preferrence in admission are Hispanics) may have justificatins becausea they are the ones that really go back to their community to serve their people. How may white doctors have you seen that actually open up practice in exclusively back or hispanic area. Without these doctors, many of the back or hispanic minority population would be highly medically underserved.
You would think it's obvious... This Lemon I believe thinks it's obvious also, but it doesn't fit into his agenda, and we have this brutal interview. Unreal.
Equality of opportunity should be the guideline but equality of outcome must not be enforced or artificially attained. DEI is poisoning the UK via this lowering of standards across the board, as you say.
The same in UK. You even have a specific quotas for entering a University (various degrees), or even in some cases finding a job later on (as a lot of companies have specific quotas to fulfill). It is going to that crazy point, when if you see a doctor you are just wondering if the person is good (and was really working hard), or simply has passed the degree because of some quotas. Yeah, they do exist - even at large Universities in the middle of London.
Here is a quote from Yeshesvini Raman from Duke University “The most important thing we’ve done is, really, systemic changes to our recruitment, to try to recruit diverse residents to our program and then to retain and support those diverse residents… So part of this has involved transitioning to completely holistic review process that we spoke about earlier today - you know, abandoning all sorts of metrics and screens, looking at people’s life story and what brought them into surgery. And the other part of it is increasing the diversity of the people who read the application, because that’s an important component of ensuring that we get diverse residents into our program " In other words , they lowered there standards to keep "Diverse" people in their program .
Yep, he repeated the same answers, to (basically) the same baited questions over and over again. This was an interrogation with Don Lemon the interrogator, attempting to get Musk to trip-up and give an answer that he could use against Musk. It didn't work! Huge fail!
Don is so unbelievably dishonest, that DEI segment floored me because he actually wants us to believe that program isn't causing standards to be lowered. I'm black and I worked incredibly hard to get to where I'm at and proud of it so being even remotely associated with that is a massive insult on so many levels
When hiring is done based on skin colour or sexual preferences rather than just competency and talent, the work they are hired for will not be done as good as the best candidate would have done it. Period.
And, what people keep forgetting is that merit ALWAYS favors merit, which could lead to a higher representation of PoC and women. Look at pro basketball/football or HR departments. Would I expect a high percentage of black people in curling? No, because the self-selected group is tiny. In some cases, straight men couldn't get hired if they tried (HR, early child education) due to blatant discrimination.
@@Dino-yv4ioSmart men/women can rise and prove their merit against so called best President is history. That’s a proof that people need opportunity to provide themselves.
I consider myself a moderate Liberal and I can honestly say, Don Lemon made Elon Musk look good. What a hatchet job this interrogation was. Several times I wanted to reach out and slap Lemon. He wasn't listening to what Musk said. He was just hearing how he could try and twist what Musk was saying. Musk's rapid responses impressed me and made me think about things in a way I hadn't before. Kudos to Musk for not allowing Lemon's type of gotcha journalism on his platform.
But Elon is racist. Proven by courts of laws a few times already. His denial is based on numbers, I e. he pretended not to know, despite all the evidences produced in a court of law. Ignorance is not a defence in a court of law. The fact that racism is proven to exist in Tesla, means that Elon, as the CEO is also racist. As to the excuse that standards are lowered at any place at all, is just speculation. There is a passing standard, and there is ultimate perfectionist standard. Just because you do not achieve the perfection standard, if it ever exists, doesn't mean that standards are lowered. Because standard measurements have errors, so perfection standards are also erroneous. Tesla never made perfect cars. In fact, initially, there were so many errors that many people died. Had Tesla lowered standards? Of course but Tesla just make a practical lowering of standards, to be acceptable to the objective in serving the interests of the community. If the passing standards are too high, there will be less doctors or pilots, so in the end will kill more people. No matter how high the Standard is, lack of doctors and pilots will cause overloads and will certainly lead to more mistakes as what had happened to Elon. Despite Elon not admitting to making mistakes in firing Twitter staff. How can you say it is not a mistake when you immediately want to hire the recently fired staff? Elon only admitted to knowing the dangers of lack of sleep, after numerous experts point out to him. Elon was caught relying on faulty calculations because he relied on public consensus instead of rigorous peer reviewed research. Scientific research is still subject to errors, but were detected in the end because they were published and data still kept. Public consensus is fragile and many denied ever making the inconsistent statements.
"Kudos to Musk for not allowing Lemon's type of gotcha journalism on his platform." Just to be clear, Musk isn't disallowing Lemon's type of gotcha journalism on X. He's just not offering 🍋a contract. 🍋 can still post interviews with whoever he wants on X... he just won't get the benefits he could have had with the contract.
These methods of vigilante journalism have been common and in wide use since November 8, 2016, primarily targeting President Trump. The only difference now is that they have chosen a second primary target named Elon Musk. That's because Elon has taken away Twitter, one of their biggest narrative-control tools. Lemon is not just "failing to listen". He is an accomplished propagandist who knows EXACTLY what he's doing. One of many.
Lemon is not honest, and kept race-baiting Elon with bad logic. Elon didn't take the bait. One thing Elon could have brought up is how merit sometimes favors people of color and women, such as with basketball teams. I don't see 5' white dudes on basketball teams just for "DEI". Merit is the moneymaker with any competitive sports team, and individual sports too. Simone Biles isn't amazing because she's black, it's because she's great at what she does and has the track record to prove her merit. Michael Phelps, he earned his stripes. If DEI is so important, why doesn't this apply to athletes? Obviously, there's a huge issue in allowing trans women to ruin women's sport, but that's another topic.
Every time Elon answered, Don tried to reformulate his answer, or ask him again to try and get that single compromising soundbite to go viral with. You see him setting the stage in early questions and try to trap Elon. Elon saw it late, but understood it and never fell in the trap. This interview was intense! I kinda liked seeing Elon being challenged and he stood his ground masterfully.
@@maxpelletier2237 Elon was not challenged. These are the same low-IQ questions that every mainstream journalist points at him and he provides the consistent response each time. He should just make a handout at this point with the following points: "Free speech means saying things which are uncomfortable as long as they do not violate the laws of the country" "Any initiative which elevates those on the basis of identity will inevitably compromise those who would have been elevated on the basis of merit" "The X platform will not engage in any moderation beyond the confines of the legal system within a jurisdiction"
@@shankars6324 You're right. What I meant was that people who hate Musk often follow some naratives pushed by the medias. Don asked him pretty much about those naratives. Hence the "challenge". He got asked what every haters would want to ask him, and he answered, standing his ground.
Y@@shankars6324 yeah but you'd hope for better responses at this point. Like that's not what free speech is. That's just what people who like to talk alot of shit say it is.
Mr. Lemon: the best circumstantial evidence that will support Mr. Musk’s opinion about DEI politics can harm quality of medical is this: ever since Wall Street jobs pay so much better than the almost meager wages earned by medical doctors (compared to the former), and droves of smart people who might want to be M.D. decided not to pursue a career in clinical medicine or medical research, the quality of our doctors and PhDs did go down - that is an indisputable facts over the past few decades ! If not because many researchers from abroad are willing to come here to get a high degree so they can get Green Card and start a life in the U.S. or if ‘foreign medical graduates’ did not flock into our country, we would be in an even more dire shape in terms of research output AND clinical care manpower. You are a fool to not be able to see that trending relationship to know that lowering standards of any thing/profession will inevitably lead to poorer outcomes. Besides, DEI had been around only for few years; it will take longer period of time for this kind of depreciating quality issues to float to the surface. Mr. Lemon is simply a self-appointed ‘expert’ of DEI ideology. He also has no evidence to support his claim that DEI will not harm people’s health and lives. I am a retired physician with 35 years of working experience. Both the residents (clinicians in training) and the attending physicians who train them are getting significantly worse over the past 3 decades, after Hilary Clinton’s failed attempt to nationalize health care, and the frustrations of doctors due to high stress, malpractice insurance fees and ever escalating paperworks and regulation made it harder and harder to want to be a good doctor. DEI will only exacerbate the situation by introducing lower quality candidates into the profession, even as the explosion of medical knowledge and technologies demand higher caliber candidates to learn efficaciously and apply them to treat patients. I think Mr. Lemon erroneously believe that his ideology is superior and thus immune from any inherent potential pitfalls of an non-scientific argument out of social & political intentions won’t do any harm - he has NO evidence to that claim at all, even as he kept bullying Mr. Musk with his arrogant and repetitive questions.
I don't understand why Lemon is being so foolish on this issue. When your Standards are DEI and not best available person regardless of color, you have lowered the standard! When Biden said he is going to appoint a black female for Supreme court he automatically lowered the standard, not because she was a black female, but because he excluded everyone else!!!
That's one of the tricks that people use so you will come over to their side so if you're not very educated you you go along with there idea! I'm glad that Mr musk is not going to fall for any of their ideas
I have a friend who flies for Alaska Airlines. According to him, it took 10 years to get his credentials to fly passenger planes for Alaska Airlines. He was really pissed off one day, because he flew with a copilot the night before who got her credentials in 3 years. The company needed to hire more women and people of color, so they changed their policies to allow select individuals to fly much faster than everyone else that was hired previously. Musk is completely right here… The bar is being lowered so these companies can get DEI tax breaks. It’s all about the $$$ to large corporations unfortunately. Greed outweighing logic.
As a woman who always wanted to be a pilot... That is terrifying. I would not want standards to be lowered for me to reach any goal. I would not feel any pride in my achievement if standards had to be lowered for me to reach them. This is America, where merit speaks louder than any other credential. That is one of the things that make us the land of opportunity.
Don reached so hard that he literally said in a round about way. "Some people would consider the removal of Child P would be censorship, not the banning of illegal material" This man is a tool in many aspects. Shameful
Don Lemon with surgical precision demonstrated his already well known bias and stupidity in trying to once again convert falsity into truth. I sincerely believe that his being homosexual (-an action seen by majority as wrong /false), sensitizes him to become unnecessarily defensive in most arguments especially those involving heterosexual individuals -men and women alike. He already subconsciously sees them as an 'enemy' that hates his lifestyle and therefore him and wants to hurt /humiliate them as they 'do /did to him. In other word, he is a traumatized individual seeking revenge at any opportunity.
I disagree. That "toddler" definitely has an agenda and Elon had to constantly repeat what he said before to let the toddler know he is not playing his game Overall disgusting and pretty much a repeat of previous interview don't remember who it was but insisted on same pointless framework. I don't know why Elon agrees to this crap tbh, maybe a bit of mental sparring for him.
Hardly. Musk came across as the difficult, unpredictable, socially awkward guy he is. He wanted the interview and when it got uncomfortable for him he got irritated. Poor Rlin.
Well, a toddler is forgiven when the subject matter is beyond his experience. Everything discussed in this interview is within the scope of Don Lemon's journalistic experience one would think. Apparently not.
And he expects everyone to agree with his opinion, and not hurt his feelings. He still hasn't learned a thing about journalism. As Elon pointed out to him.
That interview is what cut ties with Don Lemon and why Don is suing. After Don was fired, X was his next gig. Never bite the hand that feeds you, and if you do, don't go and cry when that hand is pulled away.
Don is bought and paid for. he doesn't care or respect Elon , nor does he want a job from him . he know he was not going to have a show funded by Elon after this . he took the opportunity to try to "out him" with this interview and as you can plainly see it backfired on him. it was what he was TOLD to do .
He's not saying that every DEI hire is unqualified, he's saying that the moment you base hiring on skin color and/or gender the potential for incomitance increases exponentially. How is that not obvious to anybody with a pulse?
@@robertcoutts926"Woke" simply means aware of racial discrimination and its effects. It was an Black American term. All the other stuff you lot added. Musk admitted that the whole world is racist but he doesn't believe in muzzling people. That's all. I don't think it is an easy line to draw. There are valid arguments on both sides. Musk is wrong on DEI. He doesn't understand that ALL DEI beneficiaries are QUALIFIED as per the normal standards. There is no lowering of the standards. It is just opening the door to the old white boy's club where people are hired because they are white and male.
Just to remember you guys from the circumstance: 1. Musk was trying to help Lemon to work for X giving him an underserving interview. 2. Lemon, OTOH, was pursuing a cancellation-type kind of gotcha interview. I'm glad it all worked up so well, Lemon got exposed and Musk moved on unscathed.
@pickleorderer Theres certain things not even money can buy. You can sit comfortably on those millions as a coward & sell out, it makes people die on the inside. You can't buy respect nor the adoration of the masses or even relevance with the elite.
If I require medical care and visit a doctor, I expect the doctor to be there because of their competence and not because of diversity, equity, and inclusion initiatives. It would make me very uncomfortable if that were the case.
Your Logic is Limited. And Iam from Africa, and can i see The limit in your thinking, from here with a 2g connection thatvdisconnect After every 5 mins. That journalist is crap.
DEI is wildly unfair to all PoC and women who earned their credentials without DEI, because the spectre of DEI hangs over everyone who would otherwise be eligible.
Here's the full interview on Don Lemon's channel: th-cam.com/video/hhsfjBpKiTw/w-d-xo.htmlsi=bwp2udbUlXyS7IkK
almost as crazy as Lemon's follow up on The View
Yea not gonna give him views.
Don't support Lemon by watching.
How much has the brain rot infected you already...ffs dude
I don’t wanna lower my standards and watch that
Don Lemon is probably one of the worst interviewers around. He is a gotcha interviewer and is not interested in actually understanding the person he interviews. I would not waste my time on his show ever.
Just proves Elons point 😂
He is horrid. A twisted propagandist.
@@jackstickler1705 clown
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Wow.... Talking to a Don Lemon is like talking to an unreasonable, ignorant 15 year old.
Lemon is just a woke r sole
well said
Elon is quite clearly the ignorant one here. He hates truth being pointed out to him.
@@cesarseminario687 You are being kinda mean to the 15 year old, and giving lemon.head a lot of credit.
I wish I would have thought of that comment! I saw it, but I just couldn't put it to words.😂
As a black man... it's so sad to listen to Don trying to make a racist argument when Elon is not even there...
who is to say where these hate speech tweets are even coming from? Probably bots to sabotage X.
Don is acting obtuse. He lost his audience because of this. Thanks for sharing your comment. Be safe.
I was taught growing up to judge people by their actions not by what they look like. I hate to have to say this I am white and 55 I really don’t understand this focus on race or the twisting up of history under the guise of equality.
That’s all he ever does
just curious, why it causes you sadness other black man ideas?
I have a lot of respect for Elon watching this. He’s like a patient father trying to explain something he’s already explained five times to a four-year-old.
🤣🤣🤣
Don Lemon pretends he just wanted a good conversation, but his line of questioning shows he’s hunting for a “gotcha”
You have to be a lot smarter than Lemon is to get a gotcha
Oh, look at the Elon Musk Sycophant pretending they are into "Free Speech". LOL 🤣
His picture should be next to the word, "disingenuous" in the dictionary.
@@mandarinandthetenrings2201
Project much.
Absolutely
Don Lemon: “Do you think that…I’m dumb?”
Elon: “Yes.”
You can't deny the truth! LOL
I don't think it I know it is what Elon should of said
@@79tazman "should have said" or "should've said" ...
@AgeofOriginsGameplay Don lemon is not dumb, he can talk, he is confused, majorly..
😂😅
I think standards have been lowered for Don Lemon.
yea , he doesn´t deserved any attention
It always amazes me that there is no professional ethics training or standards in media. Imagine if they had to get certified like engineers, doctors, lawyers etc so people would know they are serious about the job.
Instead we get clowns that will say anything to become famous solely for money and fame under the claim of "its free speech".
@@migueljavierayup7634 they were 0 spray for musk
Found the Racists.
Difficult to prove as always but almost a guarantee.
My brother in law and my sister are both professors at a university and I know for a fact that they were forced by the administration to lower the standards of exams and that's a fact.
Listening to Don is making us all dumber.
He makes me feel smart... by comparison! 🙂
Don's line of questioning would have been great....in 1965.
@@markmalone3025 DEI is lowering standards so a minority will get the equal number of positions regardless of their talent. Surgeons are saying this. It is happening in all professions------pilots, doctors, teachers, ceo's and technicians. Don Lemon is badgering every topic. .Elon, please DO NOT have him on again.
@@johnsjohnson448 Nah... in 1965, there were intelligent interviewers about in Britain, such as Ludovic Kennedy, Robin Day, John Freeman, Alan Whicker, Bill Rushton, a young David Frost and many more like them. In the US, there had been the likes of the wonderful Edward R Murrow, who died in 1965 (very well-respected and admired by my parents' generation over here in Britain), and I'm sure that Americans could add many other great American interviewers to that of Mr Murrow's name. Lemon and all other TV journalists/presenters of his ilk are an insult to their memory.
@@yvonnewalesuk8035 I am unfamiliar with many of the names you listed, but will check them out. LOL. Tom Snyder was terrific, Dick Cavett, and others. Don Lemon's substance abuse issues and narcissism delifed his career. He is lazy too.
I really admire the patience Elon Musk shows in repeatedly trying to answer questions from someone who refuses to listen to his responses
@@brianflanagan6838 I agree
I would’ve bounced 3 mi yes into the interview. Lemon is utterly ignorant
Had to be frustrating as hell. It’s obvious the interview was in bad faith
Don Lemon is so painfully pathetic!!! 😂😂😂😂
He wants to paint Elon black
To become a hero.
He wants to crucify him
He has an agenda..its obvious
Yeah, this interview pretty much cooked what was left of his career.
salute
I can’t stand his passive aggressive way of talking,down to the tone of his voice
DEI does not mean lowered standards. I am black and I don’t want to be employed on lower standards. We are the top of our game in most endeavours and I don’t need any one lowering standards for me. That would be tokenism and a complete insult. I hear you Elon.
DEI is tokenism though.
Can we have DEI in basketball, professional sports and Olympics, next ballet, chamber music, Jazz and medicine?
@@dotolaj3263 but that is exactly what it means, bro. It’s just common sense that when you put ANYTHING above qualifications, especially something as trivial as what race/gender someone is, you’re lowering the standards.
Buddy that’s exactly what it means
_“DEI does not mean lowered standards.”_ *BUAHAHAHA!!!*
You clearly haven’t a clue what DEI is then! I’m embarrassed for you. Even moreso too that you think you guys are “at the top of your game in most endeavors.” Talk about delusional!
I am a medical doctor and surgeon , working in Germany , Spain and now in France and I think 100% like Mr Musk , we can not lower the standards , which is happening all over the place , thanks Mr Musk for speaking clearly ...!!!
If you are doctor I hope you did not finished school in last 10-15 years in western country .....
Many "younger" Dr's I've encountered in the past few years seem incompetent and sb OUT of the profession 😢
Thank you for your service Doctor.
@@carlesjuliavallmajo3812 I agree completely and it seems to me like that should be considered common sense not logic. Don Lemon is a worm.
As i stated, Life has no need for medicine. It promotes insecurity. Vietnam for 20 years. Laos a year, Australia { yes all of it} 14 months, Singapore a year, Mongolia 2 years, Thailand 6 months, Kazakhstan a year, Austria a year { Kindenburg}, Indonesia a year, New Zealand a year, Cambodia 2 years, Croatia 6 months, Nigeria a year, Spain a year, Senegal 6 months, Portugal 2 weeks { that was a holiday}, Taiwan a year, Russia { from peter's burgh to Asian windy city} for the best part of learning,Huston, New York, California to understand ignorance, Italy { North 3 months}, Guyana a year, Siriname 6 months, Brazil for a day because I got lost. From Scotland. Your { I am } already tells me what you want to be. Musk is good. He adventures with empathy.
Elons patience with this fool is majestic.
definetly ... !
I couldn't last that long.
Playing with a toy.
So true 👍.
Yep, he was very patient but fired him immediately after. Kept his cool…then took care of the issue. Let me ask this….would you interview your multibillionaire CEO like this and expect a pat on the back? Nope.
Don was needlessly rude and interruptive and combative. I would have left, too.
He is not a lawyer. He is not police. He can ask question..let other answer. You cant grill him like police
not sure if it was cut but one time he said 'there is evidence' then he just jumped to the next question
that's really childish, even a 'fock you' is more mature xD
Define ‘hate speech’. Literally _anything_ can be viewed as hateful. The entire concept is a ridiculous excuse for certain individuals to control what others think and say.
I never realized that you could ask the same question in so many different ways while trying to twist up someone’s words
It's the woke way
That's western journalism for ya.
And often pointlessly, like a disagreeable toddler not giving up on wanting a cookie before dinner despite seeing there are no cookies left in the jar. It's as if as long as you're attempting to antagonize someone, that's good enough for that brand of _journalism._
Hahahahaha surr, Actual journalism IS the "Woke Way".
It's intentional. He's hoping Elon will get angry but he's so much more clever than Don. He can see what sloppy Don is trying to do. Let's moderate Don Lemon's speech because I think it's hate speech.
Well done Elon highlighting common sense in front of this failed woke reporter
FACT !!
Elon is a pillar of patience, a normal person would have walked away
he knows where he stands morally and doesn't change it for others, you have to respect that in a child let alone the richest man ever.
his biography "Elon Musk" is a must read/listen to!!
That’s how brilliant he is.
@@thatdirtyninja5829 normal?
I'm sure Elon has 1million more pressing things to do than waste his time with this line of well he seems to be trying to start an argument it's pure nonsense from Lemon ...
@@colindingle687he is trying to catch Elon ,he wants him to make mistakes
Imagine challenging Elon to a debate and thinking you’re going to win
I don’t know how Elon Musk does it arguing with idiots every day of the week, but I’m so proud of him, and so grateful that he keeps fighting the fight for all of us
So agree!
Bravo, Elon!!
I always didn’t like Elon but when I saw his interview with this idiotic lemonade. I like him he has my respect for that
Bravo, Elon
Yes!!!!
Don Is SO ignorantly and intentionally wrong. It is insane.
The analogy of the surgeon and lowering standards is precisely the argument I have been making for years!!! Im a female pilot. Im a pilot because I worked my backside off (and continue to do so) to make sure that not only I am as good as my male counterparts, but often exceeded them becoming a prominent instructor and examiner in the industry. Im there because of merit not because of my gender. I would never get on an aeroplane if I knew that someone in the flight deck was there because of DEI. Nor would I expect standards to be lowered because of my gender. In fact, I would be grossly insulted to be given a pilot role because of my gender and not that of my skills, expertise and experience. I 100% agree with Elon Musk.
Paramedic here, I agree wholeheartedly, little sister
@@EquineDreams3 Profound respect! Thats a tough job!!!
100% 🎯
Absolutely 💯
Congratulations! I respect and admire intelligence. 🙏🏻
How good elon handled that interview, don can not be called a journalist after that
Don Lemon is low standards. We don't need low standards Lemon.
Biden said my vice president has to be a woman and black, but didn't say capable and intelligent.
Totally agree! He leaves a sour taste in my mouth😝 so I buy organic & wax free 😂🤣
Maybe he himself is a DEI hire. You can see it in his answers if he was really smart and intelligent he would understand all these nuances. How Elon handled this interview with patience is profound.
Yes, this lemon is definitely rotten!!
@@quacker143 If he were, that is.
The word "nuance" (nuances, nuanced, etc.) has been ruined for me ever since a pro-choice progressive Christian follower of mine used it to describe abortion on Facebook. 🤦♀
It's like listening to an adult talking to a child.
It IS an adult talking to a child
Teenager
Musk always comes off as an entitled child.
Musk is a snowflake. “Extreme freedom of speech” unless he doesnt like the question then “youre cancelled”.
It's like 2 children arguing
What lemon calls hate speach, real God fearing Americans call the truth.
@dannywitt6932 I'm a God fearing Australian and I agree sir.
@@dannywitt6932 Yep, you perfectly summarized the problem
His version of "hate speech" is just speech that he hates.
@@dannywitt6932 so does anyone normal thinking human being
you believe in a hippie who got put down by Pontius pilate? She's 0-1. not very good evidence she can help you Mrs. Witt.
Don Lemon is making this a race thing, whereas Elon is only concerned with abilities and intellect. Standards shouldn’t be lowered for inclusion.
This man is unbelievably rude as hes conducting an interview with a man holding free speech as a human right. No wonder he got fired!!!!!
What is reality if you use a word like unbelieable to sensationalise your own life. A man being told what to say ,,,,against a man living. What are you trying to point out?
Cnn loved having him as a puppet.... wtf are you talking about and what world do you live in???
Well, Don Lemon has always represented the mainstream media.
“You want censorship so bad you can taste it”😂💯
That was hilariously accurate.
except the definition of censorship...
@@PedroTRamos1
No, Elon Musk hates being contradicted, and Elon Musk is against censorship only if it exposes what a hypocrite he is.
And yet Elon was the one who censored it from his platform 😂
This interview from his platform.......I am from nz and I know for a fact that Elon blocks people for holding him to account for he says......and there is a difference between hate speech misinformation and free speech
Don: “I’m trying to understand your logic.”
Elon: literally already explained the logic 5 times.
Exactly 💯
The viewers will be the one to decide how they will take Elon's words, and Don just doesn't understand that. His mind can't take it.
rewatch the interview Don you socialist tyrant
Don: Oh, sorry, I guess I missed your logic even though you explained 5 times. Guess I'm that stupid.
Elon: "tell me you're a virtue signalling gaslighter without telling me you're a virtue signalling gaslighter"
Moderation is a propaganda word for censorship.
there is a reason lemon is no longer part of any conversation
He is fraud.
6:44 "you want censorship so bad you can taste it." cracked me up.
Same I literally busted out laughing at that part!
A wise man once said: "don't argue with fools." Credit to Elon for the stamina required to suffer this one.
This was even hard for everyone who watched this. 🙄
Seriously!! I'm exhausted watching this. I don't think I would have made it nearly as long as Elon before I just got up and walked out. Apparently Elon really does have stamina for miles. LOL
It just blew my mind how often he tried to pull it back to race. Holy bananas
so why did he stutter like a little boy who pooped his pants?
Yes, it says What do you get, if you argue with a fool? 2 fools arguing.
The top 2 leftist tactics:
"No. I'm right. Now agree that I'm right or I keep repeating this until you say I'm right."
"You are wrong, this is/is not actually happening."
Respectfully I don’t think Elon should give an interview to a lemon.
Agreed, but someone had to put him in his place and who better than Elon Musk 😂
Obvious. A fruit on it's own will rot.
I am sure this will be the only interview!
Don't be duh! Don.
That made me laugh.
This don lemon is the most racist person on tv
He’s in the top 10. The crazies on The View is right up there with too!!
Dumb!
@@trevabauer8742 I was thinking the exact same thing.
There are sooooo many radically racist people on TV that it's hard to tell who is the most racist. It's a very steep competition!
Lemon is a perfect example of why Dei doesn't work.
😂 exactly!
😂😂😂
👏 👏 👏 🎉
You make no sense just like musk.
@@mauricemoody7634Boy if you really believe in what you wrote you're a lost cause for sure. Probably better to keep your opinions at the woke side of social media. You'll be right at home there with the rest of the lunatics.
I think this interviewer is proof that interviewing has lowered the standards
Does anyone remember the United flight from Maui to CA in December of 2022. The pilots almost flew it into the ocean after taking off. NTSB determined it was due to pilot error, flaps were in the wrong position. I don't care what color my pilot is, I just want he/she to be the most qualified person available for the job.
Exactly which means don't lower standards to match a color-wheel quota.
Exactly, and it's the same reason we discriminate against those who don't pay attention, are drug abusers, show a lack of diligence, etc. There are a lot of non-racial/sex traits that factor in as well. It all falls under the umbrella of merit and merit-based selection.
This is no interview, it's a typical interrogation by legacy media
Exactly. He wants to hear something and he will reinterpret until he thinks he has heard Musk say what he wanted.
Elon keeps pushing merit, but Don assumes merit=white (an obvious logical error). But what Lemon doesn't think about is where merit FAVORS POC, like any basketball team. Basketball teams are comprised of mostly black players, but that's because of merit. Why are most nannies female? Merit. Why are all MotoGP racers male? Merit. Females are allowed to race with the men, but they can't qualify (except occasionally in Moto3 where they run as backmarkers, or the slowest riders).
Merit must carry the day. Lemon is too dishonest to admit that once one veers from 'merit' and prioritizes race/sex, that standards are by-definition being lowered, even if the top performers are POC and women. Elon should have brought up basketball and other sports where merit is the number one metric for selection.
@@spacep0dLoved the MotoGP reference. 2nd race this weekend. There was 1 female a couple years ago in moto3. I believe shes gone. AMA had Melissa Paris (Josh Hayes wife) Never did that well in the races I saw.
On another note Fire departments in California Lowered the standards for entry and for captainship to get more women and people of color in.
@@dublindave5795 Yes, Moto3 (the smallest-displacement class) sometimes has a single woman in it. Last year it was Ana Carrasco, a backmarker. I welcome women in MotoGP, but the pool of male talent is too strong and too large. I've never seen a woman in the premiere class (MotoGP) and I've been watching since Valé won his first premiere class championship.
@@spacep0d If Elon mentioned that black players are better at basketball, well that would imply that he thinks white people are smarter!! and then Lemon and every Elon hater has him dead
13:02 Why does Don always feel the need to bring race into every argument?
Isn’t it obvious?
Or his sexuality
What the mind is full of the toungh overflow with
Don likes to race bait because it brings confusion and emotion to the argument, a commonly used leftist tactic.
He obviously feels comforted by the idea that critics of his opinions are simply stereotyping him as stupid due to his skin complexion. That isn't true of course since most people consider him an idiot mainly because he worked for CNN. Objectively he's actually not as much of an idiot as Whoopi Goldberg of course which is why CNN fired him but kept her on the payroll I suppose. He's certainly not as much of an idiot as Chris Cuomo who only got his job at CNN because he was the brother of a Democratic Governor.
When someone keeps asking you the same question repeatedly, even after you’ve answered it, it’s often just a tactic to get you to agree with their point. It’s like a trap.
Imagine them saying, "You don’t really want the blue curtains." And you respond, "Yes, I do." But they keep insisting: "No, you don’t," hoping you’ll eventually say, "Fine, whatever." Then they hand you yellow curtains, call them blue, and record you agreeing, adding drama and music to make it seem like you’re on the same page.
If you stick to your answer calmly and move on to the next topic instead of engaging, it drives them nuts. It stops the cycle and keeps you from getting pulled into their agenda.
Lemon is hard to listen to. That guy is so arrogant and disgusting.
You misspelled Musk.
@@Robert_DeVille No, he didn't.
@@vesogryI see you've missed the point. Muskrats are funny. Not funny ha-ha, just funny.
@@Robert_DeVille You misspelled Lemon
Sounds like he is race baiting to me, if anyone should be cancelled it should be Lemon
The difference between these two in debate is that Elon makes logical arguments while Don makes purely emotional arguments
And Don can’t understand logic.
Don is not being emotional. He's being purposely combative and wrong in his argument, he knows he's wrong, but he doesn't care. He's being wilfully ignorant purposely . He has his far leftist Marxist agenda, and like all far left Marxists , truth is not on their agenda, their agenda is the agenda. And they will lie lie lie lie lie lie and gaslight in every debate to get there opponents to react emotionally... And that's the point, you lie until you get an emotional reaction, then they declare victory. "Look he's behaving irrational, therefore I am correct..
People in abusive relationships with narcissistic partners will recognise this immediately. Don lemon is not a nice person
Thats because Don is a raving lefty. They exist on emotion.
@@aplusmerchant2281 Musk quoting an argument on what he read on X is laughable and egregious! Don Lemon made Musk nervous and uncomfortable! Kudos to Don for making him uneasy. Don Lemon wasn't emotional. He did his research, unlike Musk, his research came from X.🤣🤣🤣🤣
I believe Don is being manipulative
Sadly this lemon is always going to be a victim! Elon’s not had it easy growing up but he refuses to be a victim!
He’s stepped in for the uk because he’s sees just how unjust and corrupt it’s become, and I can’t thank him enough 👏👏🇬🇧🏴
That child pornography argument has got to be the - I mean THE dumbest thing I’ve ever heard.
Elon IQ 160 and the lemon = 80
Sounds accurate.
Acc let’s lower it to below 60
That's most generous of you to give Captian Sour an IQ of 80
80.. your a very generous guy
It bugs me when people falsely attribute low IQ to people with stupid ideas and tactics. Lemon is actually pretty good at that passive aggressive guilt tripping nonsense. I mean he isn't exactly a genius but he couldn't be where he is at with an IQ of 80...
Lemon doesn’t want to be censored, but he wants the power to censor others.
Lemon is paid to do what he's told.
Exactly my friend
Child pornography is ILLEGAL. Speaking freely is NOT. If you don’t like it- scroll on! It is not anyone’s job to monitor the entire social media populace!!!
Its Elons job to monitor HIS SOCIAL PLATFORM .. which has a LOT of child pornography and racism all over it.. along with lies and fake profiles
I have a relative who is actually illiterate, DEI, free undergrad, free med-school, now in residency for surgery, never read a book. He was taught in med-school with pictures. True story.
Poor Don. He can't grasp the concept of having the power to ban something you don't like but NOT exercising that power because it would wreck the concepts of free speech and freedom of expression. Says all you need to know about what people like him would do if they had such power.
@@ThePrisoner881 well said. Hes a just a loaded soldier. Loaded with garbage and if given power would amplify that garbage just like Wikipedia. He would be a little king in his universe. A universe the size of a shoe box.
Elon should have ended this interview as soon as Don started using "moderation" in place of "censorship" pretending to not know they're the same thing.... shame on Lemon
Don was trying to get Elon to walk out on the interview. Mr Lemon is so incompetent, he can't even make lemonade if lemons hit him in the face.
🍋🤢
There is absolutely no evidence that you are a journalist, Don.
Calling don a term commonly used for Donkey is what will definitely get censored o. TH-cam
This lemon is a personification of why you need citizen journalism instead of indoctrinated media companies.
Ok...
I "Kind of" see your point...
BUT.
"Citizen Journalism" requires input from citizens with a degree of critical thinking, together with a lack of confirmation bias.
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Unfortunately, most "evidence" I see on social media suggests that not to be the case.
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Do you think "Citizen Journalism" and "Indoctrination" are mutually exclusive?
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Some might suggest that "Citizen Journalism" may trend towards citizens who are "more enthusiastic" regarding a particular subject, who are more likely to express that opinion on line, being read by those with a similar perspective.
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If either the group becomes large enough, or one or more citizens posting organise their effort, or an "outside" person, or organisation notes the trend and subtly manipulates the narrative, you have the beginnings of indoctrination.
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Ah! You cry!
Community notes!
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But those notes rely on a diverse and representative cross section of society, and opinion, being present on the forum.
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If certain groups were "put off", while others were attracted, you have "a finger on the scale".
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Not saying any of the above is fact, but it must be considered.
@@rogerstarkey5390- The hypocritical claims of citizen journalisms superiority over mainstream media really annoy me. They have made anti-science, anti-vax, racism, sexism, and the acceptance of outright lies and crazy conspiracy theories far more mainstream. The problem with mainstream stream media is three fold. Liberal arts majors who don’t understand technical issues, a loss of editorial staff as cost cuts to deal with declining viewership, and an attempt to fight that decline by becoming as much an entertainment form rather than straight news. Citizen journalism suffers from all of these but worse. 0 editorial review, survival of the clickiest and most entertaining. Mainstream media can follow the heard due to risk aversion, but that is far less damaging than intentional spreading lies and making outlandish statements for clicks and shock value.
I really valued Tesla TH-camrs until 3-5 years ago for pointing out erroneous info in the mainstream media and their gullible acceptance of FUD from people who had an interest in Tesla failing.
There is still FUD out there but less frequent and treated more skeptically by mainstream stream media. With the drop in this righteous draw and a radical increase in objectionable behavior to many of Musk’s former big fans like me, a huge fraction of Tesla TH-camrs have turned to full time excuse making for Musk. They ignore his hypocrisy, betrayal of goals he used to build cachet, and just generally odious and immature behavior.
I saw far worse interviews of both Obama and Bush who handled it with fortitude and humor. Musk is just a thinned skinned middle school level whiner. I he is a stereotypical nerd, brilliant but emotionally stunted.
There are a lot of similarities between Musk in me in terms of background, interests and approach to engineering and even in how we responded to bullying with one exception. We both learned to keep Bullies at bay by growing bigger and learning to fight but before I did that to eliminate the last 10 to 20% of bullying I grew a think skin to laugh in their faces at insults. That was sufficient all on its own to stop a majority of bullying because bullies pick on people they see as weak both mentally and physically. Ever since high school when I see a bully I want to fight them verbally or physically. I don’t understand why Musk wants to joint the Bully team and falsely claim they are the ones being bullied.
@@rogerstarkey5390 how so? Cause he didnt push back on Musk bullshit?
@@andreaskarlsson5251 "Grinig kommunist? Javisst!"
@@TDrudley vad sa du, nazze?
The problem isn't hate speech, the problem is who gets to define hate speech.
And that's exactly what Don Lemon will refuse to acknowledge.
There's no such thing as hate speech. Because I disagree with the liberals and voice My opinion is not hate speech. Disagreeing with their kuku Agenda is not hate speech.
Obviously Don wants to apply his standard on everything. Everything he says is supposed to be facts, therefore, "evidence" shows Don gets to define what's hateful and what will lead to mass murdering.
That’s the problem with censorship. Who decided & where’s the limit? Elon ❤
Hate speech doesn’t exist in America , that’s some Canada shit
Im a surgeon. For the last 50 years at least standards have been lower for black and brown people getting into medical school. This is a fact. In 2015 the cato institute found that a black or brown person had a much higher chance of getting into med school with a college gpa of 3.25 or less compared to white applicants. Blacks 9x higher brown 6x higher. In my public med school in the 80s a third to half the blacks accepted had to repeat the furst year. I wish more qualified minorities applied to medical school but the fact is there arent that many so the standards are lowered to let more in. Is that good for patient care? I think the answer is obvious.
Infiltration of mid levels in medicine (NP adn PAs) is the ultimate lowering of standard in medicine. The entire population including most of the medical professionals are being blind sided by it and the population is paying with their lives. For more and more patients, their health and well being are on the hand of a professional with only 2 year of medical education. We now have NPs or PAs treating patients even in the ICU setting or in the emergency room. If anything, lower the standard and give them few more years of trainig before you through them out in the real world. They also must have training something similar to a residency program for physicians before they are allowed to practice. Patients don't know that, someone that just read a few books for 2 year while working as a nurse and with no hands on experience in patient care, are often in charge of their health.
In my openion, the lowering of standar for blacks and brown (only brown that get preferrence in admission are Hispanics) may have justificatins becausea they are the ones that really go back to their community to serve their people. How may white doctors have you seen that actually open up practice in exclusively back or hispanic area. Without these doctors, many of the back or hispanic minority population would be highly medically underserved.
You would think it's obvious... This Lemon I believe thinks it's obvious also, but it doesn't fit into his agenda, and we have this brutal interview. Unreal.
Equality of opportunity should be the guideline but equality of outcome must not be enforced or artificially attained. DEI is poisoning the UK via this lowering of standards across the board, as you say.
The same in UK. You even have a specific quotas for entering a University (various degrees), or even in some cases finding a job later on (as a lot of companies have specific quotas to fulfill).
It is going to that crazy point, when if you see a doctor you are just wondering if the person is good (and was really working hard), or simply has passed the degree because of some quotas. Yeah, they do exist - even at large Universities in the middle of London.
Here is a quote from Yeshesvini Raman from Duke University
“The most important thing we’ve done is, really, systemic changes to our recruitment, to try to recruit diverse residents to our program and then to retain and support those diverse residents… So part of this has involved transitioning to completely holistic review process that we spoke about earlier today - you know, abandoning all sorts of metrics and screens, looking at people’s life story and what brought them into surgery. And the other part of it is increasing the diversity of the people who read the application, because that’s an important component of ensuring that we get diverse residents into our program "
In other words , they lowered there standards to keep "Diverse" people in their program .
Elon was extremely patient with Lemon talking in absolute circles.
This is not an interview. Lemon is just trying to get the answer he wanted, relentlessly.
....and he didn't get it!
Elon showed a ton of patience with this reporter. He repeated the same answers over and over again.
Yep, he repeated the same answers, to (basically) the same baited questions over and over again. This was an interrogation with Don Lemon the interrogator, attempting to get Musk to trip-up and give an answer that he could use against Musk. It didn't work! Huge fail!
Don is so unbelievably dishonest, that DEI segment floored me because he actually wants us to believe that program isn't causing standards to be lowered. I'm black and I worked incredibly hard to get to where I'm at and proud of it so being even remotely associated with that is a massive insult on so many levels
I'm so impressed with Elon's self-control over this interview. I think Don's purposefully being stupid lol
I love the way Morgan Freeman politely & eloquently told Don to stop his sniveling. One of the best moves CNN did was firing him.
When hiring is done based on skin colour or sexual preferences rather than just competency and talent, the work they are hired for will not be done as good as the best candidate would have done it. Period.
You just described not Dei. Good job.
Yes that's why Jordan Peterson is saying we need equal opportunity not equality of outcome!
And, what people keep forgetting is that merit ALWAYS favors merit, which could lead to a higher representation of PoC and women. Look at pro basketball/football or HR departments. Would I expect a high percentage of black people in curling? No, because the self-selected group is tiny. In some cases, straight men couldn't get hired if they tried (HR, early child education) due to blatant discrimination.
Example Our Vice President
@@Dino-yv4ioSmart men/women can rise and prove their merit against so called best President is history. That’s a proof that people need opportunity to provide themselves.
I consider myself a moderate Liberal and I can honestly say, Don Lemon made Elon Musk look good. What a hatchet job this interrogation was. Several times I wanted to reach out and slap Lemon. He wasn't listening to what Musk said. He was just hearing how he could try and twist what Musk was saying. Musk's rapid responses impressed me and made me think about things in a way I hadn't before. Kudos to Musk for not allowing Lemon's type of gotcha journalism on his platform.
But Elon is racist. Proven by courts of laws a few times already. His denial is based on numbers, I e. he pretended not to know, despite all the evidences produced in a court of law. Ignorance is not a defence in a court of law. The fact that racism is proven to exist in Tesla, means that Elon, as the CEO is also racist.
As to the excuse that standards are lowered at any place at all, is just speculation. There is a passing standard, and there is ultimate perfectionist standard. Just because you do not achieve the perfection standard, if it ever exists, doesn't mean that standards are lowered. Because standard measurements have errors, so perfection standards are also erroneous.
Tesla never made perfect cars. In fact, initially, there were so many errors that many people died. Had Tesla lowered standards? Of course but Tesla just make a practical lowering of standards, to be acceptable to the objective in serving the interests of the community.
If the passing standards are too high, there will be less doctors or pilots, so in the end will kill more people. No matter how high the Standard is, lack of doctors and pilots will cause overloads and will certainly lead to more mistakes as what had happened to Elon. Despite Elon not admitting to making mistakes in firing Twitter staff. How can you say it is not a mistake when you immediately want to hire the recently fired staff? Elon only admitted to knowing the dangers of lack of sleep, after numerous experts point out to him.
Elon was caught relying on faulty calculations because he relied on public consensus instead of rigorous peer reviewed research. Scientific research is still subject to errors, but were detected in the end because they were published and data still kept. Public consensus is fragile and many denied ever making the inconsistent statements.
"Kudos to Musk for not allowing Lemon's type of gotcha journalism on his platform."
Just to be clear, Musk isn't disallowing Lemon's type of gotcha journalism on X. He's just not offering 🍋a contract.
🍋 can still post interviews with whoever he wants on X... he just won't get the benefits he could have had with the contract.
These methods of vigilante journalism have been common and in wide use since November 8, 2016, primarily targeting President Trump. The only difference now is that they have chosen a second primary target named Elon Musk. That's because Elon has taken away Twitter, one of their biggest narrative-control tools. Lemon is not just "failing to listen". He is an accomplished propagandist who knows EXACTLY what he's doing. One of many.
Lemon is not honest, and kept race-baiting Elon with bad logic. Elon didn't take the bait. One thing Elon could have brought up is how merit sometimes favors people of color and women, such as with basketball teams. I don't see 5' white dudes on basketball teams just for "DEI". Merit is the moneymaker with any competitive sports team, and individual sports too. Simone Biles isn't amazing because she's black, it's because she's great at what she does and has the track record to prove her merit. Michael Phelps, he earned his stripes. If DEI is so important, why doesn't this apply to athletes? Obviously, there's a huge issue in allowing trans women to ruin women's sport, but that's another topic.
@@joshiepooh Exactly. Elon abides by his own rules.
3:50 NO WAY THIS Don GUY DEFENDED CP 😂
My seven year old great grandson understands what Elon is saying, Maybe he should explain it to
lemon.
I think your 7 year old grandson is much, much wiser than Lemon could ever hope to be
😂😂😂
I don’t remember Don speaking out against the censorship of Hunter’s laptop information.
@@robertnagel337 Ho ho! Nice! 👌
Don is not listening to Elon's responses and doesn't want to understand .
Every time Elon answered, Don tried to reformulate his answer, or ask him again to try and get that single compromising soundbite to go viral with. You see him setting the stage in early questions and try to trap Elon. Elon saw it late, but understood it and never fell in the trap. This interview was intense! I kinda liked seeing Elon being challenged and he stood his ground masterfully.
@@maxpelletier2237 Elon was not challenged. These are the same low-IQ questions that every mainstream journalist points at him and he provides the consistent response each time.
He should just make a handout at this point with the following points:
"Free speech means saying things which are uncomfortable as long as they do not violate the laws of the country"
"Any initiative which elevates those on the basis of identity will inevitably compromise those who would have been elevated on the basis of merit"
"The X platform will not engage in any moderation beyond the confines of the legal system within a jurisdiction"
@@shankars6324 You're right. What I meant was that people who hate Musk often follow some naratives pushed by the medias. Don asked him pretty much about those naratives. Hence the "challenge". He got asked what every haters would want to ask him, and he answered, standing his ground.
He wants to badger the man who PAYS him! Lol…didn’t go well for the arrogant Lemon.
Y@@shankars6324 yeah but you'd hope for better responses at this point. Like that's not what free speech is. That's just what people who like to talk alot of shit say it is.
OMG the last 3 Minutes is almost like a comedy! That guy has no Respect to it self at ALL ! xD😂🤣😂
Mr. Lemon: the best circumstantial evidence that will support Mr. Musk’s opinion about DEI politics can harm quality of medical is this: ever since Wall Street jobs pay so much better than the almost meager wages earned by medical doctors (compared to the former), and droves of smart people who might want to be M.D. decided not to pursue a career in clinical medicine or medical research, the quality of our doctors and PhDs did go down - that is an indisputable facts over the past few decades ! If not because many researchers from abroad are willing to come here to get a high degree so they can get Green Card and start a life in the U.S. or if ‘foreign medical graduates’ did not flock into our country, we would be in an even more dire shape in terms of research output AND clinical care manpower.
You are a fool to not be able to see that trending relationship to know that lowering standards of any thing/profession will inevitably lead to poorer outcomes. Besides, DEI had been around only for few years; it will take longer period of time for this kind of depreciating quality issues to float to the surface. Mr. Lemon is simply a self-appointed ‘expert’ of DEI ideology. He also has no evidence to support his claim that DEI will not harm people’s health and lives. I am a retired physician with 35 years of working experience. Both the residents (clinicians in training) and the attending physicians who train them are getting significantly worse over the past 3 decades, after Hilary Clinton’s failed attempt to nationalize health care, and the frustrations of doctors due to high stress, malpractice insurance fees and ever escalating paperworks and regulation made it harder and harder to want to be a good doctor. DEI will only exacerbate the situation by introducing lower quality candidates into the profession, even as the explosion of medical knowledge and technologies demand higher caliber candidates to learn efficaciously and apply them to treat patients. I think Mr. Lemon erroneously believe that his ideology is superior and thus immune from any inherent potential pitfalls of an non-scientific argument out of social & political intentions won’t do any harm - he has NO evidence to that claim at all, even as he kept bullying Mr. Musk with his arrogant and repetitive questions.
I don't understand why Lemon is being so foolish on this issue. When your Standards are DEI and not best available person regardless of color, you have lowered the standard! When Biden said he is going to appoint a black female for Supreme court he automatically lowered the standard, not because she was a black female, but because he excluded everyone else!!!
Wow, Elon has the patience of a saint. And Don has the intelligence of a sea sponge.
Intelligence and don should never be used in the same paragraph, and I jus did it again.
Don't insult the sea sponge!
Before this show:
Don: please don’t anger with me if I ask you too much aggressive questions.
Elon: of course
Lon Demon.
😅🎉😂🎉😅🎉
Don Lemmon keeps going in circles.
I knooooooow. ⭕😵Ugh Like the hell. smfh. lol
That's standard for these types of fools. Kinda like Kathy Newman, yea?
That's one of the tricks that people use so you will come over to their side so if you're not very educated you you go along with there idea! I'm glad that Mr musk is not going to fall for any of their ideas
Dons called a LEMON for a reason...😂😂😂
Elon: "If something is illegal we remove it" Don: "what about child pornography?" Somebody needs to check Dons home computer ASAP
Time😊tell truth😊
Study’s show :
Don Lemon wants censorship so bad he can taste it !😂
Musk is too intelligent for a Lemon.
Hahaha, yes👏👏👏
I have a friend who flies for Alaska Airlines. According to him, it took 10 years to get his credentials to fly passenger planes for Alaska Airlines.
He was really pissed off one day, because he flew with a copilot the night before who got her credentials in 3 years. The company needed to hire more women and people of color, so they changed their policies to allow select individuals to fly much faster than everyone else that was hired previously. Musk is completely right here… The bar is being lowered so these companies can get DEI tax breaks. It’s all about the $$$ to large corporations unfortunately. Greed outweighing logic.
As a woman who always wanted to be a pilot... That is terrifying. I would not want standards to be lowered for me to reach any goal. I would not feel any pride in my achievement if standards had to be lowered for me to reach them. This is America, where merit speaks louder than any other credential. That is one of the things that make us the land of opportunity.
And the Almighty $Dollar$ trumps everything else
The saddest part of all this is that we as a society are lowering our standards to placate those whose minds are not as acute as the 85% of humanity.
Tax breaks do help the economy.
The Juice did the world dirty
Don if your wrong your wrong. Your wrong. 😂 bro entered a mental gun fight with a pickle
Don reached so hard that he literally said in a round about way.
"Some people would consider the removal of Child P would be censorship, not the banning of illegal material"
This man is a tool in many aspects. Shameful
Don Lemon with surgical precision demonstrated his already well known bias and stupidity in trying to once again convert falsity into truth. I sincerely believe that his being homosexual (-an action seen by majority as wrong /false), sensitizes him to become unnecessarily defensive in most arguments especially those involving heterosexual individuals -men and women alike. He already subconsciously sees them as an 'enemy' that hates his lifestyle and therefore him and wants to hurt /humiliate them as they 'do /did to him. In other word, he is a traumatized individual seeking revenge at any opportunity.
@@chip.chippa6416 he is a clown
I love how Elon is answering politely and truthfully. Those mainstream journalists...
It's like Elon is talking to a toddler that forgets what was said 3 sentences ago.
I disagree.
That "toddler" definitely has an agenda and Elon had to constantly repeat what he said before to let the toddler know he is not playing his game
Overall disgusting and pretty much a repeat of previous interview don't remember who it was but insisted on same pointless framework.
I don't know why Elon agrees to this crap tbh, maybe a bit of mental sparring for him.
Hardly. Musk came across as the difficult, unpredictable, socially awkward guy he is. He wanted the interview and when it got uncomfortable for him he got irritated. Poor Rlin.
@@christinecamley Who cares if he was difficult, socially awkward, or irritated. Was he right or wrong?
@@christinecamley - You mean Don Lemon wanted the interview don't you?
Well, a toddler is forgiven when the subject matter is beyond his experience. Everything discussed in this interview is within the scope of Don Lemon's journalistic experience one would think. Apparently not.
His name is LEMON,, because he leaves a sour taste in everyone's mouth.😁🍋
It hurts my brain listening to Dom Lemmon!! He tries to confuse people with his questions and his opinions. And he only thinks his opinion matters!
And he expects everyone to agree with his opinion, and not hurt his feelings. He still hasn't learned a thing about journalism. As Elon pointed out to him.
He is awful. Don talks about STUFF he has done himself and YET questions freedom of speech. He means restrict the Right.
He had interview with Candice Owens. 🤦 He is annoying
That interview is what cut ties with Don Lemon and why Don is suing. After Don was fired, X was his next gig. Never bite the hand that feeds you, and if you do, don't go and cry when that hand is pulled away.
I think it's hilarious that Lemon is suing Elon even though he never had a contract signed by Elon lol
good for elon !
don is done ...
elon took over x and now yt ...
Who wants to hire Don the Lemon after this? Don is a little child in an adult body.
Don is bought and paid for. he doesn't care or respect Elon , nor does he want a job from him . he know he was not going to have a show funded by Elon after this . he took the opportunity to try to "out him" with this interview and as you can plainly see it backfired on him. it was what he was TOLD to do .
CNN 😂
Oh my gosh talking to a wall is more productive than talking to Don Lemon.
He's not saying that every DEI hire is unqualified, he's saying that the moment you base hiring on skin color and/or gender the potential for incomitance increases exponentially. How is that not obvious to anybody with a pulse?
Exactly 💯
@@rockrobful seriously. If I were Elon, I’d say it’s 2+2, we don’t need a study to prove it.
It is obvious.
Ideology always ask for sacrifice.
Take Kamala Harris for example...
This is how the people at CNN actually think..
Thinking is a poor choice of words
clam your tatas down. Elon looked like the fool he is.
@@pandaleaves5220 you did not watch the interview, did you.
@pandaleaves5220 thanks for proving the point CNN viewer 😂
@@pandaleaves5220 how do you clam tata’s
Hats off to the Elon’s patience level with this guy
Lemon should stay off of X ... he's too woke and self important to survive in the light of day.
Would have fired this guy on the spot. "You want a censorship, you can taste it." LOL
@@mipcstvHe wasn't working for Musk. He had a contract for X to have exclusive rights for 24 hrs. 😊
@@robertcoutts926"Woke" simply means aware of racial discrimination and its effects. It was an Black American term. All the other stuff you lot added.
Musk admitted that the whole world is racist but he doesn't believe in muzzling people. That's all. I don't think it is an easy line to draw. There are valid arguments on both sides.
Musk is wrong on DEI. He doesn't understand that ALL DEI beneficiaries are QUALIFIED as per the normal standards. There is no lowering of the standards. It is just opening the door to the old white boy's club where people are hired because they are white and male.
@@robertcoutts926Self-important? Are you sure you don't mean "uppity"?
DONALD LEMONADE" BEHAVIOUR YOURSELF!!! 😂😂😂😂
Keep trying, Lemon. Next time, don't bring a limp rubber band to a missile fight. You are WOEFULLY unequipped to go against Musk.
May I use that one, about limp rubber bands in a missile fight ? It's brilliant.
Just to remember you guys from the circumstance:
1. Musk was trying to help Lemon to work for X giving him an underserving interview.
2. Lemon, OTOH, was pursuing a cancellation-type kind of gotcha interview.
I'm glad it all worked up so well, Lemon got exposed and Musk moved on unscathed.
Don sounds like someone who is trying to impress his old bosses and get back into the main stream club.
Absolutely agree! That's the only explanation for this sh*t show.
Dum dum Don is so out. He will make it at McDonalds if he can get out an order without shaming the customer.
@@ColSandersFORPRESIDENT dum dum, Fanboy, 1000% Elon.
"Free Speech", but only, if "Papa" allows it!
Why? They're still paying him until he's 60...he doesn't have to work at all if he doesn't want to.
@pickleorderer Theres certain things not even money can buy. You can sit comfortably on those millions as a coward & sell out, it makes people die on the inside. You can't buy respect nor the adoration of the masses or even relevance with the elite.
“Freedom of speech is only relevant when people you don’t like say things you don’t like”
Legend
No one wants to lower the standards of anything! Medical, dental, trucking, teaching…. Standards should never be lowered, at all.
The interview should have ended when Elon Musk says he is not going above the law, the interview became redundant.
It was the same gotcha question over and over again. Lemon is not a very intelligent person it seems ....
@@fluff2001 not at all
Cool cool cool 🤣
If I require medical care and visit a doctor, I expect the doctor to be there because of their competence and not because of diversity, equity, and inclusion initiatives. It would make me very uncomfortable if that were the case.
Sure thing.
Your Logic is Limited. And Iam from Africa, and can i see The limit in your thinking, from here with a 2g connection thatvdisconnect After every 5 mins.
That journalist is crap.
DEI is wildly unfair to all PoC and women who earned their credentials without DEI, because the spectre of DEI hangs over everyone who would otherwise be eligible.
@@PeterK6502 don’t forget nepotism
Elon deserves Nobel peace prize for not doing the walrus maneuver on Don 😂
😁
Definitely 😂
Things might have gone better if Elon spoke directly with the worm in Don's brain.
what the hell is the walrus maneuver?!
Really! Don is such a punk.