I love how Elliot, Lune and Kieran are peaceful in fighting for their rights. Trans right advocates can sometimes be real assholes. In all seriousness, trans community, you people need to give us time. We need to learn and re-learn. For the longest time ever, our society is built for cisgender-heterosexual. We admit we are not ready.
Trans people are really living a hard life, they don’t get to choose this. This is how they are. Maybe some of y’all don’t understand what they are going through, but please have some basic respect for them
People that suffer from depression, schizophrenia, auto-immune diseases, CANCERS and more - are the ones who are living hard lives. Kids stuck in foster homes for no choice of their own; Black kids in US inner city ghettos: they have hard lives; many dead before their 25. The Native Americans stuck on reservations got pretty terrible lives too . Trans: how totally self-involved.
@@wanderingquestions7501 sure of course there are many people with terrible lives. Go help them then, donate, volunteer and stuff like that. But just because others have a hard life doesn’t mean trans people don’t. You mentioned depression, do you know there’s a correlation between being part of lgbtq and being depressed. I bet u won’t admit that. Why not be a nice person and just respect them. Can’t accept them? No problem, just shut your mouth. That’s not hard.
Is about time the general public get educated about LGBTQ. Every human deserves an equal opportunity whatever gender or background and religion. Thank you for covering this.
They do have the equal opportunity to be assessed by their appearances like everyone else. People who don’t look pleasant are generally shunned by others.
wah singaporeans in the comment section (singaporeans in general) really need to be more accepting, its really pathetic to see non-lgbtq+ people being so pressed about someone elses happiness. who teach you to be so disrespectful to others ah?
Lol I’m a Singaporean, I’m a homosexual (when I say that, I mean attraction to people of my birth gender) and uh I identify as Agender but haven’t came out about my gender identity to anyone I know in real life. I have came out about my sexuality though.
@@val5995 I'm talking about female students sharing changing rooms and sports with males. Why would I want to give my location away online? Have you heard of the concept of privacy? I guess not if you disregard women's and girls' need for privacy from men.
@@val5995 Nowhere on this planet is 100% safe. If you actually lived in Singapore you'd know that. Any adult in the world should know the importance of not disclosing personal information online. You must be a naive teenager if you don't understand what men and women are, and why privacy is important.
it's really not fair that these people are feeling this way...they deserve to be treated with respect and empathy, because after all, we are not the ones to judge nor determine how they should live their lives. I sincerely hope that they are ok and will be able to achieve greater heights in the future. 👍
@@rustybun101 no, respect is earned, not demanded. Existing as a human is not inherently worthy of respect. Humans can be murderers and rapists, do you respect them too?
why are comments here so nasty? they're not hurting anyone and it's their lives. who are we to judge others? maybe look in the mirror first before passing judgement?
So glad that CNA covered this topic... But wow, a lot of the comments here are transphobic! You may disagree with transgender people's beliefs, but do it respectfully. It doesn't help that trans rights (part of anti-discrimination laws) are basically non-existent here in Singapore.
Yea, cos they don't approve of you. So you cannot really expect much support. Why don't you just give in and behave as they wish? Or move out of the country to Singapore?
It's great to hear that these students were able to get some level of accommodation. It's not perfect but it's a lot better than I was expecting when I hit play.
11:16 "doesn't sound like the problem of trans people" Earlier this year a trans prisoner impregnated 2 female inmates in a New Jersey women's prison. This is absolutely a problem of how society constructs policy regarding trans people. The interviewees in this video say they felt uncomfortable being housed on the "wrong floor". By the same token can trans people and activists understand that natal men and women might feel similarly uncomfortable when trans people are introduced into spaces previously reserved only for natal men and women? The New Jersey prison incident is one such space; another space is sports - increasingly transwomen athletes are getting the better of natal women athletes in sports such as swimming, martial arts and weightlifting. Society needs to ask itself if this is fair, and trans people need to reflect on whether the right to shift public policy due to feelings of discomfort only go one way.
Hi there! Wanna preface this by saying I'm not looking for a heated argument in the comments section, I just wanted to respond to a few things that you brought up. I definitely agree that we need to make sure everyone can feel safe where they live. And a study in the US found that trans people are more than four times more likely than cis people to experience violent crime. This includes sexual assault, in which trans people are the prey not the predator, so to speak. So I can find it very understandable that trans people would feel unsafe in certain environments. Of course, I understand why cis people may feel unsafe sharing spaces such as bathrooms or bedrooms with trans people. However, I generally find this feeling comes from misinformation or cherry-picked statistical outliers, such as the case you pointed out. And that is not at all to undermine such a horrible act committed by that inmate! Just to highlight that there is stigma and prejudice towards trans people that is not necessarily backed up by large samples of data. Especially because another study found that 40% of trans prisoners experience sexual abuse each year. Cis people are less likely to be assaulted by trans people, than trans people are to be assaulted by cis people. So I belive when trans people say sexual assault isn't the problem of trans people, it's the problem of predators, what they are trying to highlight is that being a predator is not dependent on being trans or cis. It's dependent on how gross of a person you are lol.
@@jazzpunkjerman There is no need for heated arguments as long as everyone agrees to put forth their views in good faith and not attack the person expressing them. To your point: sure, the incident I brought up is a statistical outlier, but in this case the exception proves the rule - namely, why did society establish segregation of genders in prisons in the first place? It was precisely to avoid situations like these. There are good reasons why society enforces separations in some spaces. But if you are aware of trans activism in the west then you'd know they are tearing such established norms down by using tactics of de-platforming, cancellation and accusations of bigotry and transphobia. And what is the basis for their position? The trendy but absurd platitude "transwomen are women!", for one. Sorry no, society has had a good working definition of 'woman' for a long time, and that excludes people who have penises. Trans activists and woke celebrities try to re-define words such that the feelings of trans people get validated but - as is becoming increasingly common - at the expense of women's rights and to the erosion of woman's spaces. We rehabilitate female prisoners in women's only jails so they can serve their time without fear of sexual assault or unexpected pregnancy complications. We provision for female athletes to compete in women's only sports so they are not disadvantaged because they did not undergo an influx of testosterone that men get during puberty. Like I said, there are good established reasons why society does so. If I sound adamant to the extent that you needed to preface your comment with such a conciliatory message, it is because I have observed with horror how far trans activism has gone in countries like the US, UK and Canada, and I feel it is right to take a stand for the sake of reasoned principle before similarly virulent stains of activism take root here as well. At the heart of my position I believe in the sanctity of individual human rights but also that the rights of one person should not trample on those of another. Instead of tearing down women's rights to accommodate trans rights we have to find a better way to raise trans people as a separate but equal class to everyone else. But this necessarily involves accepting that there are in fact biological differences between the sexes and that we do not accept people reclassifying themselves just based on their feelings. If we can do that respectfully and with intellectual honestly then society will be better off.
@@mljh11 I definitely see where you're coming from. I just feel that I come from a place of less fear and distrust of trans people, and my experiences have affirmed that, and so do statistics. I come from a place where trans people are treated far more respectfully, I treat them as equals. And as a women, I have never felt encroached upon. To compare spaces like prison to university halls isn't a good faith argument, if what you're saying is we shouldn't allow trans people into the women's section of the hall. What the place where I live has proven is, if people can move past their distrust, scorn, or fear of trans people, then sharing spaces with them is very... normal. And if trans people are still not someone you want to be friends with because of whatever cultural background you come from, that's fine, you don't have to be friends. But you don't have to assume they're gonna come and sexually assault you either. If someone wants to invade women's spaces to take opportunities away from them or to sexually assault them - there are not going to do it by being trans. Because almost everywhere trans people go, they get bullied and harassed. Let's not forget the statistic of being four times more likely to experience violent crime. Trans peoples' lives do not necessarily become easier when they come out as trans. I think it's very sad that for many trans people, coming out as trans only makes their lives more miserable. I don't like seeing any community of people facing discrimination that makes their lives too hard to live. And I'm referring to the alarmingly high rates of suicide among trans people. If all I have to do as a cis woman is treat trans people normally, then I'm more than happy to do it. Because as I've discovered in life, it doesn't affect me in any tangible way. I don't feel encroached upon, I don't feel threatened by them. I'm friends with them. And as friends, we talk about normal things that I would talk about with any other person. It really has no significant impact on my life, I just maybe have more friends. If people stop insisting that trans women are going to sexually assault cis women, we'd all live with far less fear - a net positive.
@@jazzpunkjerman Thanks for your reply. The reason I cited the New Jersey prison incident is because it illustrates some of the principles underpinning my position: that society segragates some spaces by sex for logical and reasonable purposes, including safety (jails) and fairness (sports). Your comments mention statistics of violent crime and suicide rates affecting transpeople, and you suggest that if transpeople are treated "normally", then these risk factors will go down. But what do you mean by normal? You know it is not "normal" for people staying in women's jails (or female college dorms) to have penises, nor is it "normal" that female athletes have physiques that were amplified by male doses of testosterone at puberty. In effect, arguing for the entry of transpeople into these previously segragated spaces is asking for the abnormal - that special exceptions be made for them. So what good reasons are there to ask for these exceptions? I think anyone who asks for these bears the burden of showing that the principles I brought up earlier - concerning safety and fairness - are ok to violate for one group of people, as long as another group of people benefits. Is that right to you? As I mentioned before, I don't think so: I hold to the general principle that society should not allow the rights of any one group of persons to trample on those of another. Also, while it's great that you personally don't feel affected by encroachment into the spaces you inhabit, I don't believe you speak for every other cis female. Unfortunately many women who do not share your views have been bullied into silence by activists, and that is not right either.
@@mljh11 I feel we are discussing slightly different things. I am focussing more on saying that in spaces such as university halls, I encourage people to be accepting and respectful of trans people. They are not a danger to others in these spaces. They are not taking up the space of others. They are not upsetting the balance of things. So when I say treating them normally, I'm just saying that in spaces like halls of residence - more casual and communal spaces - we should allow them to feel comfortable and safe. I have not put much thought into trans people in prison, which is why I haven't been touching on the subject much. I don't have a fully developed stance on it yet. I also don't have a fully formed stance on trans people in sport yet, and don't much wish to get into a discussion about it as I wouldn't have much to say. With the sports topic, I care very much about fairness and generally think splitting things between men and women isn't the most fair way to do it. For instance, some women have a lot more testosterone (naturally) than others which can be an advantage, and intersex people (people who aren't 100% biologically a man or a woman) also don't have a clear category to go in. So fairness is a pretty nuanced subject in sports - even ignoring trans people. I generally like the way things like boxing and martial arts are divided up - usually by weight. I often wonder if we should explore different ways of dividing sports up other than men and women to improve fairness. But that's probably as far as my thoughts go on the matter. It's difficult for me to weigh up because I don't want to be unfair to either trans people or women. As both have made it their profession and both are skilled and train hard. Those are just some thoughts on the matter, as I said, I don't have a definitive stance on the matter. My point is more related to the topic of the video. The video portrays 3 trans people who have struggled a little with being a trans uni student. I just empathize with them and wish things were easier for them at uni, as they all seem like nice and considerate people. I would just like for them to feel safe, and for cis people to feel safe around them too. Uni should be a safe space for all.
Transgender are humans too so every country must protect of their human rights, no kill, no bully, no discrimination and no hate them. Justice for LGBT
@@ral2585 did you even watch the video? there were three people covered in the first minute alone. also, "them" can refer to a singular person, and has been since the 1200s
They only care about themselves and do not consider the discomfort of others or other people's rights. It is no wonder lgbt acceptance has gone dramatically down these past few years. It's no longer about "live and let live," it's about "you have to change everything to accommodate us" and "we'll never be happy because it'll never be enough." 👌
Fun fact, some people might see your comment as well as your view with discomfort also and you probably don't care because it's coming from "other people" All humans (note: ALL) only care about themselves, many changes need to be done especially in Singapore in terms of accommodations anyway such as foreign labor workers, etc. As a society it is actually important to wholeheartedly accommodates each other, and I'm not talking about trans or LGB issues only. What you're doing is pointing finger at one issue without an open mind, and it's quite sad.
@@spiderjump Again a close minded opinion is not solving any problem, and if you're not part of a solution, you're part of the problem. I say if you're not an expert in the case nor a psychiatrist you can't really say anything downgrading the matter. Meanwhile, I'm just here mentioning the obvious, humans need to accommodate each other instead of throwing hates :).
@@apebass2215 I'm just being realistic, and if you read the conclusion on comments again, I said "humans need to accommodate each other". Funny that I'm getting attacked for trying to defend fellow humans from being judged lol. Why can't y'all just say that you hate the issue and the topic of this video and move on with your lives :))
Need to treat them like fellow human being and not look at them with colored eyes. If everyone can mind their own biz if they have nothing positive to say, we can make life bearable. Judge them not but judge ownself.
To the same extent people accord you the respect that is given to you when you tell people you go by Dr/Mr/Ms/Mrs/Mdm. People don't usually question that.
So because of their circumstances, they have to be be given privileges to have single room. Stay with a male, “my room mate not comfortable with cross dressers.” Stay with a female, “she might not be comfortable with sleeping with someone born male”. So really they are just demanding privileges.
I think they're going through a very tough time. Some people need more space to grow and develop. It's all about equity. Most transgender people don't have the same privilege we do from childhood to be able to fully express ourselves without gender dysphoria. When they finally have the courage to request for the space, the next best opportunity would be at university, with the option to live away from family for awhile. They're sharing their stories and letting us know their needs, especially those in transition - they usually don't have a support network that's been there since they were born (like friends and family who know them for their real selves), so they have to fight for what they need on their own. I think that's respectable.
@@shaynet6811 Then don't treat the entire issue like they are fighting for equality because they are discriminated. The fact is they are asking for more than equality. They are many straight people who can't fully express themselves since childhood either, is this something exceptional to the trans community? I think a whole bunch of undergrads would want to live away from their families as well and never had the opportunity to do so. Thinking that "I" am not good enough, "I" am different from the rest, "I" can't fit into a social group, are these really unique to them. And is not having a support group a unique experience with trans people? I guess not; with the number of suicide cases on the rise. When the expectation is to be generous to them because their needs and wants are not met is not equality but charity.
There is no one that knows you better than yourself. People who say they are trans are trans. Believe people, respect people, and show people love and consideration. Calling someone by the correct name/ pronouns is about reaffirming that the person deserves human decency.
Here’s a rather uncomfortable question. What makes Gender Dysphoria different from say, Anorexia? We don’t affirm an anorexic person’s belief that he/she is fat but we do that with someone with gender dysphoria… why?
Trans clinical is fine, do what you want to your body. But don’t expect people to deal with the politics or the societal issues. If you have a dead name, legally change it. Unless you change it. Your birth name is your name It can not be enforced, you can’t remove one groups rights and replace it with another’s.
@@bertlander I never said that. The original comment made it transactional by saying you cannot remove one groups rights and replace it with another's. It's not a zero sum trade off. So please tell me what rights do we lose if the LGBT community is given the right to say, get married?
@@liyentan112 We lose out financially since a legal right of marriage would accompany a legal right to financial subsidies, which would be especially disadvantageous to those singles-by-choice. It is better to the majority to be indifferent to the suffering of the transpeople and instead expect them to fit society
That last line though… not a problem of trans people but problem of predator.. it’s not about whose problem, but what is the solution. You don’t trample over other’s rights in the pursuit of yours. Drawing lines or deflecting isn’t going to help.
How is this deflecting though? In order to solve the solution of predators, you first need to identify who are the predators. Unless, of course, you're insinuating that trans people are all predators? I'm sure that that's not true though, as that is a very transphobic, bigoted and unfair thing to say :)
So how do we identify the predators? I don’t think it’s unfair to expect a healthy discussion on this issue. Just because it’s being brought up doesn’t mean that anyone is insinuating anything. Again the focus should be on the issues.
There it is. The moment a differing opinion is said, and immediately all the threats of transphobia and bigotry get doled out. A transfemale prisoner in New Jersey, Demi Minor, impregnated two female inmates while serving time in a women's jail. If we can all agree this should not have happened, then we can move on from "no this is not a problem of trans people" to "but it is a problem of public policy regarding trans people".
@@mljh11 mljh11 your reasoning is so nonsensical, it's like the idea of joining the Ku Klux Klan because you got mugged by a black person once. I can't tell if you're a bad faith actor or just plain idiotic
@@l156a21 What is my reasoning that you think you're addressing? Your KKK analogy is so off-base and has no relation to what I said because you've constructed a strawman out of my position.
If 1=0 we get that all other numbers also = 0 => 1*x=0*x => x=0. ---------- Or 1=2 => 1*x=2*x => x/2=x => x=0 so if 1=2 all numbers disappears and becomes 0. The whole numbersystem disappears, anything that could be measured also disappears, so the whole Universe disappears.
Singapore is getting out of hand and moving towards liberalism. Even if the stigma towards trans ppl are gone one day, it still doesn't change the fact that they are living a sinful lifestyle. It shouldn't be encouraged and shouldn't be emulated.
"let him who is without sin cast the first stone" I don't think anyone can say they're living a life that's without sin. Also, why would anyone want to choose to be trans so that others could weaponize religion against them. I'm pretty sure religion is more about love than the judgment in this comment.
You forget that not everyone here belives in your beliefs. Sinful in your eyes can be freeing in anothers. You speak on things you dont understand, you follow blindly in short words. The only reason your religion is still there is because people understand some people need faith to live a life they love.
showing a little respect and empathy aint that hard my bro. it means Alot to them, validating the right gender after being called what they are not their entire lives before. a little kindness my friend.
@@nobodyshouldknowmyname1405 biologically there is only 2 genders yes but in terms of identification, a non-binary gender does exist if you do a simple google search.
I don't know why but they sound borderline hateful and bitter. I have been shocked by the language the Reddit online community they have discussions in. It's all about blaming cis people and hating on cis women as a general group and also placing all cis women in one giant pile where we all have the same characteristics and motivators. How can I be confident enough to support them when they harbor such hatred? Then we have social media where any word becomes weaponized and used to attack others. It's very toxic and off putting.
It could probably be because of a lifetime of rejection. If faced with that for as long as they have lived, you become fearful. Someone has to show love first and how privileged are we, if we can. 💞
It's fine to be trans and all, great but why are we bombarded nonstop with their shows, issues, voices? I mean for such a tiny fractional minority of population they have an 10,000X disproportionate voice in media on shows, discussions, politics, it's non stop. Why do they crave endless media attention?
Because they are a minority and are being discriminated against. If you're the majority, why do your voice need to be heard the loudest. Everybody else already hears you loud and clear
❤ you are loved! Transphobia aggression to me is like someone attacking my 14 month year old baby girl…. NEVER will be accepted! PROTECT AND LOVE ALL BEINGS NO MATTER WHAT!❤
When the mind and body are not in harmony, they are two possible ways to address it. It is to change the mind or alter the body. Usually, the later is chosen once the surgery is available. Before the era of transformation surgery, people just lived with it. It is interesting that in Beijing opera and drag performance, the actors and male artists can play the roles of wowen with no disharmony.
🧍provide evidence of when that worked rn in links so I can see them with my eyes. Because all the LGBT people I knew forced into religious conversion only became worse in mental health and physical health. My friend could of died from an eating disorder god dammit. Another of mine legit comitted suicide. So please tell me, where is the trustable evidence.
@@berniefynn6623 So, you have delusional disorder for not being able to tell what is not real (i.e. myth) and what is real? Like transgenders have gender dsyphoria, is it?
It is better to be what we are born to be... so it is we ourself, to notice any changevin our own body, that we are different in certain areas. So wee needs to quickly adjust it back to be in the correct position, to be a normal person.......all problem got it cause, so if any no goods, we needs to change it to the better.......
that is a very small-minded perspective. just bc someone is born a certain way does not mean that is the "normal way." What is better/most suitable for a person is what they are most comfortable in, which can only be defined by the person him/herself.
Man must be man. How to be real man. Be brave, dont be weak and become coward.. learn kungfu to made yourself strong and can fight bullys.. when one is weak, it is because he got less yang in his body.. so all man needs more yang to be manly and strong........
that's so cool I hope you don't force your ideals of how a man should be on the rest of the population. people can do what they want, the existence of trans people doesn't harm anyone
idk bruh u tell me what if one day you wake up and u find yourself in a female's body... u gonna start doing girlie things now bc girls should be girls?
I love how Elliot, Lune and Kieran are peaceful in fighting for their rights. Trans right advocates can sometimes be real assholes.
In all seriousness, trans community, you people need to give us time. We need to learn and re-learn. For the longest time ever, our society is built for cisgender-heterosexual. We admit we are not ready.
So appreciative of CNA covering this! Kudos to the team!
Thank you CNA for covering this ❤️
Trans people are really living a hard life, they don’t get to choose this. This is how they are. Maybe some of y’all don’t understand what they are going through, but please have some basic respect for them
Why do you think some men are forced to wear dresses and makeup? They have a choice not to pretend to be the opposite sex.
People that suffer from depression, schizophrenia, auto-immune diseases, CANCERS and more - are the ones who are living hard lives. Kids stuck in foster homes for no choice of their own; Black kids in US inner city ghettos: they have hard lives; many dead before their 25. The Native Americans stuck on reservations got pretty terrible lives too . Trans: how totally self-involved.
"they don't get to choose this"
Of course they get to choose this. They ignore biology and become demented in this idea that you can just become a female/male whenever you wish.
@@wanderingquestions7501 sure of course there are many people with terrible lives. Go help them then, donate, volunteer and stuff like that. But just because others have a hard life doesn’t mean trans people don’t. You mentioned depression, do you know there’s a correlation between being part of lgbtq and being depressed. I bet u won’t admit that. Why not be a nice person and just respect them. Can’t accept them? No problem, just shut your mouth. That’s not hard.
All 3 were so sweet and humble despite all the hardships they've gone through. Really hope everything works out for them.
Let's hope they don't end it all and become another trans statistic
Is about time the general public get educated about LGBTQ. Every human deserves an equal opportunity whatever gender or background and religion.
Thank you for covering this.
I don't need you to educate me.
They do have the equal opportunity to be assessed by their appearances like everyone else. People who don’t look pleasant are generally shunned by others.
Try educating the middle east
Do you know what men and women are? If not, have you considered an education?
While there's always ro for improvement, I'm glad that mainstream media in Singapore is starting to be accepting and showing their stories 💙
wah singaporeans in the comment section (singaporeans in general) really need to be more accepting, its really pathetic to see non-lgbtq+ people being so pressed about someone elses happiness. who teach you to be so disrespectful to others ah?
Sit down. This is a form of mental illness that the media is trying to get normalized. More people on meds = easier to be controlled by govt
Lol I’m a Singaporean, I’m a homosexual (when I say that, I mean attraction to people of my birth gender) and uh I identify as Agender but haven’t came out about my gender identity to anyone I know in real life. I have came out about my sexuality though.
@@GayLordMatt you should identify as a moron instead. Suits you better
Kudos to these students and CNA for telling these necessary stories ❤
Thank you to everyone who contributed to this thoughtfully produced video, especially the three speakers 🙏
NTU does have a lot of rooms to make the changes. It's important to note the difference in resources and how it impacts the students.
What about female students who have to share female spaces and sports with men?
@@apebass2215 lol what are you talking about? 😂 Which NTU Hall do you live in?
@@val5995 I'm talking about female students sharing changing rooms and sports with males. Why would I want to give my location away online? Have you heard of the concept of privacy? I guess not if you disregard women's and girls' need for privacy from men.
@@apebass2215 lol it’s Singapore. It’s so safe that you could disclose. I think you don’t really live there 😂
@@val5995 Nowhere on this planet is 100% safe. If you actually lived in Singapore you'd know that. Any adult in the world should know the importance of not disclosing personal information online. You must be a naive teenager if you don't understand what men and women are, and why privacy is important.
it's really not fair that these people are feeling this way...they deserve to be treated with respect and empathy, because after all, we are not the ones to judge nor determine how they should live their lives. I sincerely hope that they are ok and will be able to achieve greater heights in the future. 👍
What have they done to earn respect?
@@apebass2215 being a human, everyone deserves respect.
@@rustybun101 no, respect is earned, not demanded. Existing as a human is not inherently worthy of respect. Humans can be murderers and rapists, do you respect them too?
Kudos to CNA and the trans interviewees for doing this!!
why are comments here so nasty? they're not hurting anyone and it's their lives. who are we to judge others? maybe look in the mirror first before passing judgement?
So glad that CNA covered this topic...
But wow, a lot of the comments here are transphobic! You may disagree with transgender people's beliefs, but do it respectfully. It doesn't help that trans rights (part of anti-discrimination laws) are basically non-existent here in Singapore.
Shut up. This is haram behavior. Don’t twist words of Quran
Most citizens are very happy though, that they are entitled to discriminate against transpeople, which is a basic human right
@@ral2585 Fortunately, the legal system in Singapore isn't based on a random religion's religious text
@@eddy-currents Zuraimi is a Malay name you clown
@@ral2585 Oh, didn't know that being malay means you have to be muslim. I'll be reporting you for racism now :)
These comments are not it, trans rights
Men are not women.
Men are not women.
It’s crazy cuz I never said they were
@@DeadNoob451 try not to hate what you dont understand
@@wheatstonebridge I do understand and i dont hate.
I just live in reality and dont support crazy political extremism.
In neighbour country across the causeway, I really felt discriminated at all times. There are literally none of these supports. So helpless.
Yea, cos they don't approve of you. So you cannot really expect much support. Why don't you just give in and behave as they wish? Or move out of the country to Singapore?
hi dear, im so sorry you're going through this. Maybe you can try online communities for support? all the best to you!
Wishing all the best to the trans people in universities currently and in the future! Hope things will get better for all of you as soon as possible.
Best wishes for you guys. Keep going show the true colors you love. God bless everyone🙏
It's great to hear that these students were able to get some level of accommodation. It's not perfect but it's a lot better than I was expecting when I hit play.
11:16 "doesn't sound like the problem of trans people"
Earlier this year a trans prisoner impregnated 2 female inmates in a New Jersey women's prison. This is absolutely a problem of how society constructs policy regarding trans people.
The interviewees in this video say they felt uncomfortable being housed on the "wrong floor". By the same token can trans people and activists understand that natal men and women might feel similarly uncomfortable when trans people are introduced into spaces previously reserved only for natal men and women?
The New Jersey prison incident is one such space; another space is sports - increasingly transwomen athletes are getting the better of natal women athletes in sports such as swimming, martial arts and weightlifting. Society needs to ask itself if this is fair, and trans people need to reflect on whether the right to shift public policy due to feelings of discomfort only go one way.
Hi there! Wanna preface this by saying I'm not looking for a heated argument in the comments section, I just wanted to respond to a few things that you brought up.
I definitely agree that we need to make sure everyone can feel safe where they live. And a study in the US found that trans people are more than four times more likely than cis people to experience violent crime. This includes sexual assault, in which trans people are the prey not the predator, so to speak. So I can find it very understandable that trans people would feel unsafe in certain environments.
Of course, I understand why cis people may feel unsafe sharing spaces such as bathrooms or bedrooms with trans people. However, I generally find this feeling comes from misinformation or cherry-picked statistical outliers, such as the case you pointed out. And that is not at all to undermine such a horrible act committed by that inmate! Just to highlight that there is stigma and prejudice towards trans people that is not necessarily backed up by large samples of data. Especially because another study found that 40% of trans prisoners experience sexual abuse each year. Cis people are less likely to be assaulted by trans people, than trans people are to be assaulted by cis people.
So I belive when trans people say sexual assault isn't the problem of trans people, it's the problem of predators, what they are trying to highlight is that being a predator is not dependent on being trans or cis. It's dependent on how gross of a person you are lol.
@@jazzpunkjerman There is no need for heated arguments as long as everyone agrees to put forth their views in good faith and not attack the person expressing them.
To your point: sure, the incident I brought up is a statistical outlier, but in this case the exception proves the rule - namely, why did society establish segregation of genders in prisons in the first place? It was precisely to avoid situations like these.
There are good reasons why society enforces separations in some spaces. But if you are aware of trans activism in the west then you'd know they are tearing such established norms down by using tactics of de-platforming, cancellation and accusations of bigotry and transphobia.
And what is the basis for their position? The trendy but absurd platitude "transwomen are women!", for one. Sorry no, society has had a good working definition of 'woman' for a long time, and that excludes people who have penises. Trans activists and woke celebrities try to re-define words such that the feelings of trans people get validated but - as is becoming increasingly common - at the expense of women's rights and to the erosion of woman's spaces.
We rehabilitate female prisoners in women's only jails so they can serve their time without fear of sexual assault or unexpected pregnancy complications. We provision for female athletes to compete in women's only sports so they are not disadvantaged because they did not undergo an influx of testosterone that men get during puberty. Like I said, there are good established reasons why society does so.
If I sound adamant to the extent that you needed to preface your comment with such a conciliatory message, it is because I have observed with horror how far trans activism has gone in countries like the US, UK and Canada, and I feel it is right to take a stand for the sake of reasoned principle before similarly virulent stains of activism take root here as well.
At the heart of my position I believe in the sanctity of individual human rights but also that the rights of one person should not trample on those of another. Instead of tearing down women's rights to accommodate trans rights we have to find a better way to raise trans people as a separate but equal class to everyone else. But this necessarily involves accepting that there are in fact biological differences between the sexes and that we do not accept people reclassifying themselves just based on their feelings.
If we can do that respectfully and with intellectual honestly then society will be better off.
@@mljh11
I definitely see where you're coming from. I just feel that I come from a place of less fear and distrust of trans people, and my experiences have affirmed that, and so do statistics.
I come from a place where trans people are treated far more respectfully, I treat them as equals. And as a women, I have never felt encroached upon.
To compare spaces like prison to university halls isn't a good faith argument, if what you're saying is we shouldn't allow trans people into the women's section of the hall.
What the place where I live has proven is, if people can move past their distrust, scorn, or fear of trans people, then sharing spaces with them is very... normal. And if trans people are still not someone you want to be friends with because of whatever cultural background you come from, that's fine, you don't have to be friends. But you don't have to assume they're gonna come and sexually assault you either.
If someone wants to invade women's spaces to take opportunities away from them or to sexually assault them - there are not going to do it by being trans. Because almost everywhere trans people go, they get bullied and harassed. Let's not forget the statistic of being four times more likely to experience violent crime. Trans peoples' lives do not necessarily become easier when they come out as trans.
I think it's very sad that for many trans people, coming out as trans only makes their lives more miserable. I don't like seeing any community of people facing discrimination that makes their lives too hard to live. And I'm referring to the alarmingly high rates of suicide among trans people.
If all I have to do as a cis woman is treat trans people normally, then I'm more than happy to do it. Because as I've discovered in life, it doesn't affect me in any tangible way. I don't feel encroached upon, I don't feel threatened by them. I'm friends with them. And as friends, we talk about normal things that I would talk about with any other person. It really has no significant impact on my life, I just maybe have more friends.
If people stop insisting that trans women are going to sexually assault cis women, we'd all live with far less fear - a net positive.
@@jazzpunkjerman Thanks for your reply.
The reason I cited the New Jersey prison incident is because it illustrates some of the principles underpinning my position: that society segragates some spaces by sex for logical and reasonable purposes, including safety (jails) and fairness (sports).
Your comments mention statistics of violent crime and suicide rates affecting transpeople, and you suggest that if transpeople are treated "normally", then these risk factors will go down.
But what do you mean by normal? You know it is not "normal" for people staying in women's jails (or female college dorms) to have penises, nor is it "normal" that female athletes have physiques that were amplified by male doses of testosterone at puberty.
In effect, arguing for the entry of transpeople into these previously segragated spaces is asking for the abnormal - that special exceptions be made for them.
So what good reasons are there to ask for these exceptions? I think anyone who asks for these bears the burden of showing that the principles I brought up earlier - concerning safety and fairness - are ok to violate for one group of people, as long as another group of people benefits.
Is that right to you? As I mentioned before, I don't think so: I hold to the general principle that society should not allow the rights of any one group of persons to trample on those of another.
Also, while it's great that you personally don't feel affected by encroachment into the spaces you inhabit, I don't believe you speak for every other cis female. Unfortunately many women who do not share your views have been bullied into silence by activists, and that is not right either.
@@mljh11
I feel we are discussing slightly different things. I am focussing more on saying that in spaces such as university halls, I encourage people to be accepting and respectful of trans people. They are not a danger to others in these spaces. They are not taking up the space of others. They are not upsetting the balance of things. So when I say treating them normally, I'm just saying that in spaces like halls of residence - more casual and communal spaces - we should allow them to feel comfortable and safe.
I have not put much thought into trans people in prison, which is why I haven't been touching on the subject much. I don't have a fully developed stance on it yet. I also don't have a fully formed stance on trans people in sport yet, and don't much wish to get into a discussion about it as I wouldn't have much to say. With the sports topic, I care very much about fairness and generally think splitting things between men and women isn't the most fair way to do it. For instance, some women have a lot more testosterone (naturally) than others which can be an advantage, and intersex people (people who aren't 100% biologically a man or a woman) also don't have a clear category to go in. So fairness is a pretty nuanced subject in sports - even ignoring trans people. I generally like the way things like boxing and martial arts are divided up - usually by weight. I often wonder if we should explore different ways of dividing sports up other than men and women to improve fairness. But that's probably as far as my thoughts go on the matter. It's difficult for me to weigh up because I don't want to be unfair to either trans people or women. As both have made it their profession and both are skilled and train hard. Those are just some thoughts on the matter, as I said, I don't have a definitive stance on the matter.
My point is more related to the topic of the video. The video portrays 3 trans people who have struggled a little with being a trans uni student. I just empathize with them and wish things were easier for them at uni, as they all seem like nice and considerate people. I would just like for them to feel safe, and for cis people to feel safe around them too. Uni should be a safe space for all.
These stories need to be told
breh like many others said theres so many transphobic comments here,,,, but great job to the ppl behind the video! yall are so cool 👍
Transgender are humans too so every country must protect of their human rights, no kill, no bully, no discrimination and no hate them. Justice for LGBT
You're free to feel hatred towards whomever you want.
@@nastyvinylcunter1366 sure, good luck with your life filled with hatred. Love, empathy and kindness rule!
@@patoises who said my life is filled with hatred? I simply said people are free to feel hatred. It's an emotion you can't bar someone from having.
@@patoises also, empathy is not helpful to anyone. Learn compassion.
@@nastyvinylcunter1366 you can't bro, they'll said that you're homophobic 😂
Their voices are surprisingly masculine
Wishing them all the best :,)
It’s only one person. Why do you say them? Are you that much of a coward to not acknowledge the truth just to be accepting?
@@ral2585 did you even watch the video? there were three people covered in the first minute alone. also, "them" can refer to a singular person, and has been since the 1200s
They only care about themselves and do not consider the discomfort of others or other people's rights. It is no wonder lgbt acceptance has gone dramatically down these past few years. It's no longer about "live and let live," it's about "you have to change everything to accommodate us" and "we'll never be happy because it'll never be enough." 👌
Fun fact, some people might see your comment as well as your view with discomfort also and you probably don't care because it's coming from "other people"
All humans (note: ALL) only care about themselves, many changes need to be done especially in Singapore in terms of accommodations anyway such as foreign labor workers, etc. As a society it is actually important to wholeheartedly accommodates each other, and I'm not talking about trans or LGB issues only.
What you're doing is pointing finger at one issue without an open mind, and it's quite sad.
@@spiderjump Again a close minded opinion is not solving any problem, and if you're not part of a solution, you're part of the problem. I say if you're not an expert in the case nor a psychiatrist you can't really say anything downgrading the matter.
Meanwhile, I'm just here mentioning the obvious, humans need to accommodate each other instead of throwing hates :).
@@spiderjump Same goes to you cos apparently you can't handle my comment hahaha
@@dtsidabutar why do you assume all humans only care about themselves? Sounds like you're projecting your own lack of empathy onto others.
@@apebass2215 I'm just being realistic, and if you read the conclusion on comments again, I said "humans need to accommodate each other". Funny that I'm getting attacked for trying to defend fellow humans from being judged lol.
Why can't y'all just say that you hate the issue and the topic of this video and move on with your lives :))
Need to treat them like fellow human being and not look at them with colored eyes. If everyone can mind their own biz if they have nothing positive to say, we can make life bearable. Judge them not but judge ownself.
Thank u for coming out
“I support anyone’s right to be who they want to be. My question is: to what extent do I have to participate in your self-image?”
To the same extent people accord you the respect that is given to you when you tell people you go by Dr/Mr/Ms/Mrs/Mdm. People don't usually question that.
@Shayne T someone's title isn't the same as biological reality.
@@shaynet6811 What an idiotic comparison.
So because of their circumstances, they have to be be given privileges to have single room. Stay with a male, “my room mate not comfortable with cross dressers.” Stay with a female, “she might not be comfortable with sleeping with someone born male”. So really they are just demanding privileges.
I think they're going through a very tough time. Some people need more space to grow and develop. It's all about equity. Most transgender people don't have the same privilege we do from childhood to be able to fully express ourselves without gender dysphoria. When they finally have the courage to request for the space, the next best opportunity would be at university, with the option to live away from family for awhile. They're sharing their stories and letting us know their needs, especially those in transition - they usually don't have a support network that's been there since they were born (like friends and family who know them for their real selves), so they have to fight for what they need on their own. I think that's respectable.
@@shaynet6811 Then don't treat the entire issue like they are fighting for equality because they are discriminated. The fact is they are asking for more than equality.
They are many straight people who can't fully express themselves since childhood either, is this something exceptional to the trans community?
I think a whole bunch of undergrads would want to live away from their families as well and never had the opportunity to do so.
Thinking that "I" am not good enough, "I" am different from the rest, "I" can't fit into a social group, are these really unique to them.
And is not having a support group a unique experience with trans people? I guess not; with the number of suicide cases on the rise.
When the expectation is to be generous to them because their needs and wants are not met is not equality but charity.
There is no one that knows you better than yourself. People who say they are trans are trans. Believe people, respect people, and show people love and consideration. Calling someone by the correct name/ pronouns is about reaffirming that the person deserves human decency.
Here’s a rather uncomfortable question. What makes Gender Dysphoria different from say, Anorexia? We don’t affirm an anorexic person’s belief that he/she is fat but we do that with someone with gender dysphoria… why?
Trans clinical is fine, do what you want to your body. But don’t expect people to deal with the politics or the societal issues.
If you have a dead name, legally change it. Unless you change it. Your birth name is your name
It can not be enforced, you can’t remove one groups rights and replace it with another’s.
What rights do you lose if trans people are given rights?
@@liyentan112 Oh, so rights is transactional?
@@bertlander I never said that. The original comment made it transactional by saying you cannot remove one groups rights and replace it with another's.
It's not a zero sum trade off. So please tell me what rights do we lose if the LGBT community is given the right to say, get married?
@@liyentan112 We lose our rights to infringe on their newly granted rights, which is of (very low) value to us.
@@liyentan112 We lose out financially since a legal right of marriage would accompany a legal right to financial subsidies, which would be especially disadvantageous to those singles-by-choice.
It is better to the majority to be indifferent to the suffering of the transpeople and instead expect them to fit society
That last line though… not a problem of trans people but problem of predator.. it’s not about whose problem, but what is the solution. You don’t trample over other’s rights in the pursuit of yours. Drawing lines or deflecting isn’t going to help.
How is this deflecting though? In order to solve the solution of predators, you first need to identify who are the predators. Unless, of course, you're insinuating that trans people are all predators? I'm sure that that's not true though, as that is a very transphobic, bigoted and unfair thing to say :)
So how do we identify the predators? I don’t think it’s unfair to expect a healthy discussion on this issue. Just because it’s being brought up doesn’t mean that anyone is insinuating anything. Again the focus should be on the issues.
There it is. The moment a differing opinion is said, and immediately all the threats of transphobia and bigotry get doled out.
A transfemale prisoner in New Jersey, Demi Minor, impregnated two female inmates while serving time in a women's jail. If we can all agree this should not have happened, then we can move on from "no this is not a problem of trans people" to "but it is a problem of public policy regarding trans people".
@@mljh11 mljh11 your reasoning is so nonsensical, it's like the idea of joining the Ku Klux Klan because you got mugged by a black person once. I can't tell if you're a bad faith actor or just plain idiotic
@@l156a21 What is my reasoning that you think you're addressing? Your KKK analogy is so off-base and has no relation to what I said because you've constructed a strawman out of my position.
Singapore and Japan seems so advance in human right compared to america lol
No Mathematical Sciences, it's Mathematics.
If 1=0 we get that all other numbers also = 0 => 1*x=0*x => x=0. ---------- Or 1=2 => 1*x=2*x => x/2=x => x=0 so if 1=2 all numbers disappears and becomes 0. The whole numbersystem disappears, anything that could be measured also disappears, so the whole Universe disappears.
Please dissapear me magic person
@@Leotastick Just set Me=woman AND Me=man AND Me=fish, then you´ll be gone in less than a year.
they are so strong!!!
Singapore is getting out of hand and moving towards liberalism. Even if the stigma towards trans ppl are gone one day, it still doesn't change the fact that they are living a sinful lifestyle. It shouldn't be encouraged and shouldn't be emulated.
sinful according to who? lols
"let him who is without sin cast the first stone"
I don't think anyone can say they're living a life that's without sin. Also, why would anyone want to choose to be trans so that others could weaponize religion against them. I'm pretty sure religion is more about love than the judgment in this comment.
so you're god? and you live a sin free life? bi¥** please
You forget that not everyone here belives in your beliefs. Sinful in your eyes can be freeing in anothers. You speak on things you dont understand, you follow blindly in short words. The only reason your religion is still there is because people understand some people need faith to live a life they love.
Don't expect me to use your preferred pronouns. Get over it.
showing a little respect and empathy aint that hard my bro. it means Alot to them, validating the right gender after being called what they are not their entire lives before. a little kindness my friend.
@@meboomzxc there is only 2 gender, men and women
then don't expect people with brains to see you as anything other than stupid
@@nobodyshouldknowmyname1405 biologically there is only 2 genders yes but in terms of identification, a non-binary gender does exist if you do a simple google search.
Woman is not a costume and please don’t get children involved in all these hype.
I identify as a cat, call me meow/ meows. If not you guys are disrespectful
Hahahahahaha meow/meows cute lah u
Do you know that cats loved to be pat pat on their lower backs? And they will raise up their butt when that happens? Wanna try?
Oh jeez, same old tired joke...also, couldn't think of calling yourself less stupid than meow?
@@self.destructr why so rude, you are not affirming my identity and my feelings😂
@@christ6957 Showing off your transphobia with such a lame groan-inducing comment pretty much warrants it 😂
😍🤟🙌 Go Andrea! 🏳🌈🏳⚧
I don't know why but they sound borderline hateful and bitter. I have been shocked by the language the Reddit online community they have discussions in. It's all about blaming cis people and hating on cis women as a general group and also placing all cis women in one giant pile where we all have the same characteristics and motivators. How can I be confident enough to support them when they harbor such hatred? Then we have social media where any word becomes weaponized and used to attack others. It's very toxic and off putting.
It could probably be because of a lifetime of rejection. If faced with that for as long as they have lived, you become fearful. Someone has to show love first and how privileged are we, if we can. 💞
There's no such thing as "cis", no one is a subset of their own sex.
I identify myself as a dodo bird , last of my kind
dodo birds are extinct. All hail the new era of lgbtq+
@@patoises You mean 2SLGBTQI+
I can almost believe you, seeing you have a Dodo birdbrain to match 🤣
Glad you’re the last of your kind 😍
@@NiTuJHGTkO 😂😂😂😂
It's fine to be trans and all, great but why are we bombarded nonstop with their shows, issues, voices? I mean for such a tiny fractional minority of population they have an 10,000X disproportionate voice in media on shows, discussions, politics, it's non stop. Why do they crave endless media attention?
Because they are a minority and are being discriminated against. If you're the majority, why do your voice need to be heard the loudest. Everybody else already hears you loud and clear
We don't hear about much trans people in Singapore's mainstream media though.
"it's fine to be trans if no one hears about their issues"
how are you bombarded? chill man. if you dont like it you can ignore it. as simple as that
Because they're narcissists who demand constant validation to replace their lack of self respect.
❤ you are loved! Transphobia aggression to me is like someone attacking my 14 month year old baby girl…. NEVER will be accepted! PROTECT AND LOVE ALL BEINGS NO MATTER WHAT!❤
Why do you think adult men need protecting like your baby?
@@apebass2215 I mean to be stood up for -5 shot recently -did you see- i mean standing up for thats all ---
@@apebass2215 because she is a girl 15 months -
@@apebass2215 my wife corrected me 15 months
@@apebass2215 Listen why are you here - just let me choose who I love -and you choose who you love - stop hating
Trans Rights!
Got no original thought?
@@NiTuJHGTkO cry harder.=)
@@ral2585 I’d say, with the constant attacks on us, I’ll say and do whatever I see fit as useful to advance our cause, and you can piss right off.=)
@@NiTuJHGTkO Sorry, what was that? I couldn’t hear you over all the sobbing.=)
@@NiTuJHGTkO yeah, you have a problem of yourself to deal with first.=)
Me no care.
Doesn’t seem like it.
and we don't give a flying f**k whether you care or not 🤣
you clearly cared enough to comment
When the mind and body are not in harmony, they are two possible ways to address it. It is to change the mind or alter the body. Usually, the later is chosen once the surgery is available. Before the era of transformation surgery, people just lived with it. It is interesting that in Beijing opera and drag performance, the actors and male artists can play the roles of wowen with no disharmony.
Do you think anorexia sufferers should be provided with liposuction?
*sorts by controversial*
kieran is a guy's name and lune sounds like loon tho... 🤷♂
Are they harming you in any way or are you just being rude
@@82892869hi neither, just stating facts
Singapore puts up with this at their own peril
Stop pretending already, and pop back into reality.
I don't care what pronouns you go by.
Its respect, but okay then. I expect you to be able to take constant misgendering. Misgendering isnt only for trans people yknow.
The trend now is trans-trans.
sword fighting is not a human right
Funguy being an idiot on youtube isn't a human right, but yet here you are posting gibberish.
So sad that CNA is covering this kind of content
Ok, go cry about it lol.
@@bummer7736 okay i will cry now
DJ Bong so sad that out-of-touch 18th century wankers like you even are on youtube.
I was assigned white male at birth, but I now identify as a Black woman. I support anyone's right to be who they want to be.
I I I, want want want, me me me
🤣🤣🤣
I am a TransVaccinated. That means I'm unvaccinated but identified as vaccinated. OK.
Wow! Funniest comment at the time of writing. 👍
Where tf is Transgender University? Never heard the name of this Uni :/
The hype is to go trans
Life as a transformer*
With Jesus christ you can return to normal.
🧍provide evidence of when that worked rn in links so I can see them with my eyes. Because all the LGBT people I knew forced into religious conversion only became worse in mental health and physical health. My friend could of died from an eating disorder god dammit. Another of mine legit comitted suicide. So please tell me, where is the trustable evidence.
Horus?
@@Noa...... myth just like transgendering.
@@berniefynn6623 So, you have delusional disorder for not being able to tell what is not real (i.e. myth) and what is real? Like transgenders have gender dsyphoria, is it?
I identify as a Golden retriever
🤨 got the whole comment aection laughing fr fr 😐😐😐😐😐😐😐
When a person does not feel he is living comfortably in his own skin, he may first consult a medium who can read the past life.
It may be useful to rule out any spirit possession or influence.
🤦🏻♂️
It is better to be what we are born to be... so it is we ourself, to notice any changevin our own body, that we are different in certain areas. So wee needs to quickly adjust it back to be in the correct position, to be a normal person.......all problem got it cause, so if any no goods, we needs to change it to the better.......
that is a very small-minded perspective. just bc someone is born a certain way does not mean that is the "normal way." What is better/most suitable for a person is what they are most comfortable in, which can only be defined by the person him/herself.
Aw James so in other words, we should stagnate and be useless?? Wow, what a great life lesson, not!
Words from a person unable to sympathize and be in another shoe.
Man must be man. How to be real man. Be brave, dont be weak and become coward.. learn kungfu to made yourself strong and can fight bullys.. when one is weak, it is because he got less yang in his body.. so all man needs more yang to be manly and strong........
that's so cool I hope you don't force your ideals of how a man should be on the rest of the population. people can do what they want, the existence of trans people doesn't harm anyone
idk bruh u tell me what if one day you wake up and u find yourself in a female's body... u gonna start doing girlie things now bc girls should be girls?
skil issue
sup bros