With a loaded top box and 30 litres in the tank, my Rally Explorer is a real challenge to handle around manually. My GSA has a low boxer engine and my Super Adventure S has low fuel tanks. Still, The Triumph is the better bike for me.
After running the 900 Rally Pro for nearly two years and the only off roading I have done is getting to my camping space at the ABR festival, I would choose the GT pro or explorer (also because I am 5’6” and I cannot consider a seat higher than 850mm - 800 would suit me best) The main reason I don’t go off road is that my skill level is non-existent and a heavy bike for a short guy nearing 60 is a disaster waiting to happen. I have my fingers crossed that the new smaller off-road focused offering from triumph, when it does come out allows a lower seat option and lighter, that way I could maybe get one for fun off road and leave the longer journeys on the road to a more road focused alternative 🤔 Ian
At 5'6" (though a little younger than you) I had no issues riding the Rally Pro Explorer (though did end up ordering the Rally Pro instead as didn't want to pay for a 30litre take I didn't need). I am currently on the 900 Rally Pro (having decided to try a smaller bike but missed the shaft drive and electronics so going back up in size for me (when it arrives sometime in 2023). I do ride both on and off road having done 34000 miles on the last 1200 XCA and the new 1200 is a better balanced bike
Do try the 2022 KTM 390 Adventure. I too am nearing my 60s and had a Versys 650 for 3 years. I wanted to do the extreme, remote parts of the country (I am from India) and the Versys simply wasn't up for it. And these 1200 cc Triumphs range from 249 kgs to 260 kgs? With luggage, 300 kgs plus? And when (not if) it tips over, and you are alone, without any help, what do you do? I rode a friend's 1200 GS for 6 months. It was easily the best highway tourer ever. And, a buffalo pregnant with triplets in the rough.
@@mvjoshi both the KTM 390 (and 890) are good machines that I ride regularly off road. Even considered a 890 Adventure R as my own bike but there is only one bike I am willing to sit on for 10 hours across a German Autobhan and then ride off road in Eastern Europe and that is a Triumph
@@gwilymstarks262 Thank you for your feedback, I will have to throw a leg over the 1200 and see how it feels, shaft drive is also a bonus. I have some serious decisions to make.
@@mvjoshi thank you for your input, I need to consider what bikes are best suited to what I am doing and what I would like to do. Not keen on riding a buffalo with triplets 😂
My brand spanking new Rally Explorer has arrived at the dealer. Will be picking it up next week. Been saving up for it since the T900 was released. Can't wait. 😁
How are you liking it Shane ? I’ve had my Rally Explorer for two weeks now. Took it on a few trips. Even recently dropped it on a steep rocky hill trying to ascend it. No serious damage but I’m still loving the bike.
Hi Jesse. I havent picked it up yet, Sept 2nd is the day. Here in Oz there is a wait time on some accessories (in my case panniers and rack ... 8 - 12 weeks). But I'm gunna pick it up and get some Kms on it. Still waiting on someone to release a tank bag for it. Glad to read you're having a blast. Ride safe 👍
@@shaneelson you are going to love it. It’s an awesome beast. I’ll be posting a new video of a Lake Tahoe ride I did yesterday very soon. Feel free to stop on by and check it out if you get a chance. Ride safe take care.
Good point. All the bikes are good bikes. Can’t go wrong. I bought my rally explorer to go off road and adventure. So far I’ve been on two trips. Over 1000 miles on it now. I specifically look for off road trails.
I went with the GT Pro because I’m over 60 and not as strong as I once was, the PRO I felt was more manageable for me. I added upper and lower bars plus a heated seat which the dealer threw in for a very competitive price all fitted. Best bike I’ve ever owned and I’ve had a few over the years.
Love the subtitles which claim they have 848bhp :) Both great bikes, although I preferred the GT Pro: lighter and more agile. The Rally Explorer is so tall that I dislocated both hips and a knee climbing aboard - and I'm 6ft 7ins.
If you get the GT Explorer you will get the blindspot indicators. Basically the top spec model of each line has all the bells and whistles. You want them trust me they are nice to have. I went with the rally explorer. Reply good bike.
What Jesse said, they come on the Explorer models, which are the top spec versions. So the GT Explorer (which is the road biased Tiger) and the Rally Explorer (off road)
I think for me it would be the GT Explorer coming from a 1250GSA - my riding is more touring / road focussed although I do take the gsa on green lanes & forest trails so would want to continue to do that. It is unfortunate that Triumph were the only manufacturer at ABR 2022 to only allow UK riders take their bikes out on test so in the end I won't be buying one based on the fact they cannot afford the insurance (that was the excuse I was given) yet Moto Morini could?? I did get to test a friends bike for a short spin & thought it was a good bike so might take another look at it. Also got to ride the V4S at ABR and looking closely at the new V4S Rally as a 2023 winner.
@@nlwouter6161 definitely in 2022 they would only allow uk riders with a dvla code - they may have changed policy by 2023 due to negative feedback but I had lost interest by that time so didn’t bother to join the enormous queue
Is it essential to have a bigger tank ,if you stop for fuel it generally takes minutes, don’t see that as a realistic reason, how many people sit in the saddle for 4 or 5 hours without a stop ,
@@daveo9844 yes but the RE has different rake to compensate for the bigger front wheel. As they tested both together I had hoped they would have a better insight.
@@normancrighton7622 I’ve got the rally pro and it’s surprisingly flickable through the corners. Tracks really well and remains composed over rough surfaces.
The rally Explorer is a all rounder and it has it all the only thing I think triumph could have done is that it is semi automatic suspension why can’t you set the height to suit the rider 🤷♂️
I went with the rally explorer and that would be my biggest complaint is how tall the bike is but the bike has some serious ground clearance when needed.
@@jesseonamotorcycle your right but you would have thought with today’s technology if you had your rally on road mode it could run at the same hight as the Gt models and as soon as you want serious off road then it’s at the height you need but maybe I’m missing something 🤷♂️
@@awesomeagnihotrisvlog most defiantly not. I need the ground clearance as I ride off road a fair bit. I just put the seat in the low position. I ride loads of bikes and the only one that ever was an issue height wise was the KTM 1290
I went with the Rally Explorer and so far loving it.
With a loaded top box and 30 litres in the tank, my Rally Explorer is a real challenge to handle around manually. My GSA has a low boxer engine and my Super Adventure S has low fuel tanks. Still, The Triumph is the better bike for me.
Interesting but would have been better comparing both pro versions or both explorer versions.
After running the 900 Rally Pro for nearly two years and the only off roading I have done is getting to my camping space at the ABR festival, I would choose the GT pro or explorer (also because I am 5’6” and I cannot consider a seat higher than 850mm - 800 would suit me best)
The main reason I don’t go off road is that my skill level is non-existent and a heavy bike for a short guy nearing 60 is a disaster waiting to happen.
I have my fingers crossed that the new smaller off-road focused offering from triumph, when it does come out allows a lower seat option and lighter, that way I could maybe get one for fun off road and leave the longer journeys on the road to a more road focused alternative 🤔
Ian
At 5'6" (though a little younger than you) I had no issues riding the Rally Pro Explorer (though did end up ordering the Rally Pro instead as didn't want to pay for a 30litre take I didn't need). I am currently on the 900 Rally Pro (having decided to try a smaller bike but missed the shaft drive and electronics so going back up in size for me (when it arrives sometime in 2023). I do ride both on and off road having done 34000 miles on the last 1200 XCA and the new 1200 is a better balanced bike
Do try the 2022 KTM 390 Adventure. I too am nearing my 60s and had a Versys 650 for 3 years. I wanted to do the extreme, remote parts of the country (I am from India) and the Versys simply wasn't up for it.
And these 1200 cc Triumphs range from 249 kgs to 260 kgs? With luggage, 300 kgs plus? And when (not if) it tips over, and you are alone, without any help, what do you do?
I rode a friend's 1200 GS for 6 months. It was easily the best highway tourer ever. And, a buffalo pregnant with triplets in the rough.
@@mvjoshi both the KTM 390 (and 890) are good machines that I ride regularly off road. Even considered a 890 Adventure R as my own bike but there is only one bike I am willing to sit on for 10 hours across a German Autobhan and then ride off road in Eastern Europe and that is a Triumph
@@gwilymstarks262 Thank you for your feedback, I will have to throw a leg over the 1200 and see how it feels, shaft drive is also a bonus. I have some serious decisions to make.
@@mvjoshi thank you for your input, I need to consider what bikes are best suited to what I am doing and what I would like to do. Not keen on riding a buffalo with triplets 😂
My brand spanking new Rally Explorer has arrived at the dealer. Will be picking it up next week. Been saving up for it since the T900 was released. Can't wait. 😁
You’ll love it 👍🏼
We are sure you will have a blast with it Shane
How are you liking it Shane ? I’ve had my Rally Explorer for two weeks now. Took it on a few trips. Even recently dropped it on a steep rocky hill trying to ascend it. No serious damage but I’m still loving the bike.
Hi Jesse.
I havent picked it up yet, Sept 2nd is the day.
Here in Oz there is a wait time on some accessories (in my case panniers and rack ... 8 - 12 weeks).
But I'm gunna pick it up and get some Kms on it.
Still waiting on someone to release a tank bag for it.
Glad to read you're having a blast.
Ride safe 👍
@@shaneelson you are going to love it. It’s an awesome beast. I’ll be posting a new video of a Lake Tahoe ride I did yesterday very soon. Feel free to stop on by and check it out if you get a chance. Ride safe take care.
Why are you comparing Pro Vs Explorer? Shoulda be GT Pro Vs Rally Pro, or GT Explorer Vs Rally Explorer. Pointless.
Yes, you are right
Good point. All the bikes are good bikes. Can’t go wrong. I bought my rally explorer to go off road and adventure. So far I’ve been on two trips. Over 1000 miles on it now. I specifically look for off road trails.
110% right 🙄
I went with the GT Pro because I’m over 60 and not as strong as I once was, the PRO I felt was more manageable for me. I added upper and lower bars plus a heated seat which the dealer threw in for a very competitive price all fitted. Best bike I’ve ever owned and I’ve had a few over the years.
Love the subtitles which claim they have 848bhp :) Both great bikes, although I preferred the GT Pro: lighter and more agile. The Rally Explorer is so tall that I dislocated both hips and a knee climbing aboard - and I'm 6ft 7ins.
The rally explorer is a very tall bike. But i ended up going with that one. Tigers are just awesome bikes. Can’t go wrong if you ask me.
Tiger 1200 GT seat height is 850-870mm on its triumph website, but you have given a different range, why?
Not convinced by blind spot indicators but why on the off road version not the road biased version?
If you get the GT Explorer you will get the blindspot indicators. Basically the top spec model of each line has all the bells and whistles. You want them trust me they are nice to have. I went with the rally explorer. Reply good bike.
What Jesse said, they come on the Explorer models, which are the top spec versions. So the GT Explorer (which is the road biased Tiger) and the Rally Explorer (off road)
I think for me it would be the GT Explorer coming from a 1250GSA - my riding is more touring / road focussed although I do take the gsa on green lanes & forest trails so would want to continue to do that. It is unfortunate that Triumph were the only manufacturer at ABR 2022 to only allow UK riders take their bikes out on test so in the end I won't be buying one based on the fact they cannot afford the insurance (that was the excuse I was given) yet Moto Morini could??
I did get to test a friends bike for a short spin & thought it was a good bike so might take another look at it. Also got to ride the V4S at ABR and looking closely at the new V4S Rally as a 2023 winner.
You sure about that? I got the 1200GT at the 2023 ABR with no problem (Netherlands driving licence, with International addon).
@@nlwouter6161 definitely in 2022 they would only allow uk riders with a dvla code - they may have changed policy by 2023 due to negative feedback but I had lost interest by that time so didn’t bother to join the enormous queue
Is it essential to have a bigger tank ,if you stop for fuel it generally takes minutes, don’t see that as a realistic reason, how many people sit in the saddle for 4 or 5 hours without a stop ,
Is there an appreciable difference in on road handling between the GT and Rally?
Mainly the shocks I would say and front tire and spoke wheels
Rally has 21” front wheel. A little more effort required to turn. Longer suspension travel and better ground clearance.
@@daveo9844 good point
@@daveo9844 yes but the RE has different rake to compensate for the bigger front wheel. As they tested both together I had hoped they would have a better insight.
@@normancrighton7622 I’ve got the rally pro and it’s surprisingly flickable through the corners. Tracks really well and remains composed over rough surfaces.
Great video, thank you
The rally Explorer is a all rounder and it has it all the only thing I think triumph could have done is that it is semi automatic suspension why can’t you set the height to suit the rider 🤷♂️
I went with the rally explorer and that would be my biggest complaint is how tall the bike is but the bike has some serious ground clearance when needed.
@@jesseonamotorcycle your right but you would have thought with today’s technology if you had your rally on road mode it could run at the same hight as the Gt models and as soon as you want serious off road then it’s at the height you need but maybe I’m missing something 🤷♂️
Rally explorer is good
height again! i'd love the rally but if a 6 footer can't get feet on the ground what really is the point,they must be losing so many sales
See my above comment. 5'6" and no issues with height
@@gwilymstarks262 How come mate ….after market lowering kit🙌
@@awesomeagnihotrisvlog most defiantly not. I need the ground clearance as I ride off road a fair bit. I just put the seat in the low position. I ride loads of bikes and the only one that ever was an issue height wise was the KTM 1290
@@gwilymstarks262 Cool …safe and happy miles always 🙌
@@awesomeagnihotrisvlog and you
Lovely. I'd not be vomfy with heavy passenger vs. a lo rider touring bike
If the GT is road biased why does it have a 19" front wheel? That is what I might cal a WTF decision.
So that it can do a bit of both
No subscription for me. This is pure advertising without an critical aspect. Have you ridden the bikes or just read the manufactures brochures 👎👎👎