ticktockyo2 Thats what people with schizophrenia and other mental illnesses face. Either you take your meds and become a dull subdued shadow of yourself, or you hallucinate in the public and get arrested. It's a no win life.
@@sunnyday7699 i understand where you are coming from but there are other ways instead of imprisonment. This character was obviously very instable but most people with a mental illness arent this far gone
I had never seen OITNB before and I was over St my friends and they were watching it so they filled me in on what had happened already and we started watching season 4. Why did they start me off by watching season 4?😭😭
An accurate portrayal of how the mental health system works in this country. Most of them are just locked up in prisons instead of getting them the help they need.
One of the main reasons is that to lock u up cost the tax payers money they can do that without u having medical to stay in a Pshyc hospital an actual hospital is a lot of money we are talking 100,000 a day not the state run facilty an actual place with therapy and meds not only drugging people it comes down to money I have been to mental hospitals for depression aniexty suicidal ideation I have also been incarcerated before I got insurance I was charged and convicted of a felony due to not having proper mental health treatment then I was incarcerated
ludarcis behavior I have also had my down parts in my mental health, I have schizoaffective disorder, and when they happened I was so terrified I’d end up in a place like this. Thankfully when I finally told my parents they got me help even on a health trial that gave me free psychologist sessions along with doctors sessions and pills that were extremely helpful in my worst times. Watching Lolly’s story play out I couldn’t stop crying because if she had just had the right people around her to see her spiral then she wouldn’t have to be going through this right now. Same with people in real life. I’m so thankful for living in New Zealand.
Season 4 was seriously so depressing... like, more depressing than it had to be at some points. Almost every individual story/plot ended with an innocent character meeting some sort of miserable fate :(
y u n o including Pousseys death, Dogget's rape, this scene, Alex's murder, Piper being branded.. etc etc, this was literally the darkest season of the show 😧
People say that episodes 12 and 13 are the saddest but episode 11 should also be included. To see Mr Healy deteriorate and completely break down was difficult to watch as we have known him as this cold, cowardly figure for far too long. This was a very, very difficult episode for me to watch and I felt every inch of the sadness and helplessness portrayed by both characters. Amazingly well done as was the whole season.
I agree 100% I don't know how to feel about him. one moment I hate him, another moment I feel bad for the guy and just wanna give him a hug. he's a tragic character to say the least
It's a testament to how complex all the characters are. They all have both bad sides and good sides for the most part. Healy wasn't perfect, he could be an ass and then turn around and try to be a good guy. Now that I look back maybe it's because he was dealing with mental illness himself, like a manic depressive or bi polar. He really tried to help Lolly, he's heartbroken.
@@ChaseSanity yup it shows what people are really like in the world. Every person is not good or evil like black or white. Its all greys. People have good in them and they can also be bad too. Shout-out to the show for showing the com0lexity of human psyche. There is no one villain or one hero.
He tried to save her like he tried to save his mother but he failed... and he has lost himslef too. We knew what was going to happen, we saw the fall step by step and that was so heartbreaking :(
+Farhaana Beato so true, I have a daughter, with my partner's genetics, but it does skip generations etc. and also, remember, knowledge is power girl. Don't let yourself be consumed by the fear that you will, also become that way. Some people can be fine, and drugs or alchohol or trauma or all the above, can bring it out. stay true to you girl 🌹
This really left me empty. That's horryfying with the woman screaming and Lolly yelling for Healy.... That's.... It... I can't describe the feeling....
It hurts me to think about how underrated this scene is. Everybody talks about Poussey's death being such a tear-jerker, and that it is. But this scene is so powerful to anyone who knows someone who suffers from mental disabilities and has attended such a hellish environment. Watching someone you KNOW is a good person, completely lost and confused, getting hauled away like an animal for feelings they didn't ask for and cannot control. I'm an actor, and whenever a director wants me to cry on the spot, this is one of my favourite scenes to channel.
YellowFreak I didn't cry when she died. I was sad, but I didn't cry. Maybe it was because it was the first season and I hadn't really gotten attached to any of the characters yet. I don't now. I remember being really mad at Mendez for forcing her to sell the pills, but I didn't cry.
I just completed watching this episode and I must say : season 4 Ep 11 was the most tough & difficult night of Litchfield . I never expected this show to take such a dark turn.
This scene has made me cry multiple times. Lolly doesn’t know she may have problems, but she doesn’t deserve that. She’s such a sweet scared person who is helpless and alone even from the beginning
Lolly and Healy were the two best characters in season 4! Lolly needs to come back as she didn't actually kill the guy and is brilliantly entertaining, and I used to hate Healy but he has redeemed himself so well since the season 2 finale! Both are amazing actors and need to come back
Man you say that dudes face he was destroyed inside. I could not imagine working in such a place. The pay isn't even that good either and the pain isn't worth it.
Lori Petty has been one of my favourite actresses since I was a kid. I fell completely in love with her in tank girl when I was a child. She was the first female movie character that I had an actual crush on and showed me I wasn’t straight. It doesn’t surprise me that she was able to portray her character so well making it so easy to connect with her and be emotional for her. She is a blessing to this world and I adore her. So much love for Lori
Lolly knocked him out Alex choked him to death Lolly couldn’t move her cart Alex was a drug dealer Lolly defended Alex Alex was going to let red and Freida kill her Lolly wanted to go back in time to fix everything so much so she built a time machine Alex wanted to forget it So really Who should’ve ended up in psych
i just watched this scene and i’m currently bawling my eyes out for the first time while watching this show . this terrible situation just portrayed so well and it’s absolutely heartbreaking
One thing I love about this show is how many layers the characters have. It makes them more real. Most real people aren't "bad" all of the time, and they're not "good" all the time. Mr. Healy is often ignorant, bigoted, manipulative, and a host of other unpleasant things. But occasionally he has a scene where you can see that he truly does care about the inmates and really wants to make a difference. He is not really a bad guy, he's just misguided. He tried so hard to help Lolly.
I just left the mental health field, I couldn’t keep watching my clients work so hard towards getting better and then be failed by the health care system and end up in places like this ( mental hospitals are like this too) where all of their work would be undone with the added debt of their stay, i would stay up for nights worried about the people I was trying to help, i relate to Mr. Healy so much in this scene
I just watched this scene omg!! I loved them both! 😭 Mr Healy was so patient and understanding making Polly feel like what she was thinking was right! Mr Healy relates to her and understands her and is really understanding. Then when Polly realises he stands there heartbroken!!! 😭 He looked how I felt omg!! His job is extremely hard and he’s trying to help these girls but he’s trapped like them between what he feels and what is required from his job! Sooo damn sad tho!! Poor Polly and Healy fr
When she said "That's ok we'll just keep trying" killed me. Right in the feels and the other scene is in season 4 at the very end when Poussey looks at the camera, unharmed and happy. And then that episode where that inmate is sent for compassionate release, oh right in the feels..
Season 4 was so good. I loved every episode. Full of drama and a touch of light heartedness here and there. For me Alex and Nicky really shone this series, as did Pennsatucky. However, kudos to Lori Petty who plays Lolly. She was so good this season with her mental illness and the way she portrayed it. What started out as a funny, crazy character soon turned into someone deeply disturbed and played so so well by her. This scene and the previous ones leading up to it were so well acted I found it to be difficult but compelling viewing
One of the first scenes with Lolly when Piper meet her on the plan is excellent, which was one of my personal favourite moments with her, anyway, from there you got a good insight for the character, which had a lot warmth and goodness, despite her mental issues.
The papers in the trash can weren't all burned, people will find the papers and Lolly will be brought back! Especially now everyone is saying how good Lori Petty's performance was
+lce_bear someone dying over a minium crime like a small amount of weed comes first. you forget what poussey life was like in the last season. her smiling and living a great life then dying on cold prison for on a small ass amount of weed? foh
this hit me hard. I didn’t expect it. I didn’t know what to expect. I was just so shocked and it’s so sad and the music and everything, but what tops it off is that this is what it’s actually like.
I also think the dude who plays Healy should win an Emmy or something, he's fucking brilliant. his character can be calm and collective, as well as easy to set off and angry. he could be kind and generous, as well as cold. at times i fucking hated him, but other times I felt so fucking for him and wanted to give the guy a hug. and this scene is an example.
This was the hardest thing for Mr Healy to do, before this, he took a mental swim, got ice cream, tried to escape his job to save himself, than he has to face the music and he can just sit their and just stare as he's breaking apart inside
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Most tragic character on the show. Gets put in jail because she wouldn't move her cart and then kills a guy to save someone.
ticktockyo2 Thats what people with schizophrenia and other mental illnesses face. Either you take your meds and become a dull subdued shadow of yourself, or you hallucinate in the public and get arrested. It's a no win life.
Except it was Vause who finished him off. Then she told no one so she let Lolly think she’d killed him.
@Long Schnozzed Tribesman that's the most childish, narrow minded mindset I've ever heard
Frian Klippelaar i agree because if they’re free the can kill other people
@@sunnyday7699 i understand where you are coming from but there are other ways instead of imprisonment. This character was obviously very instable but most people with a mental illness arent this far gone
When she said, "That's okay. we just keep on trying" and had that big smile on her face made me cry.
I thought she said we just keep on trying but yes, she should never have been jailed in the first place, she did nothing wrong
she says we just keep trying
woops. i knew she had said that but idk why i put crying fixed it
i cried like a little baby
Just like crazy eyes, lowly should be in a supervised group home, not prison
season 4 was just a heartbreaker
this was terrible
+Dwight this wasn't the only sad thing tho.
+Yass Bissh oh man, thank you that you didnt tell me of pousseys death because it would spoiled me
This was definitely the saddest season yet (this scene with lolly fucked me up and the poussey stuff killed me)
I had never seen OITNB before and I was over St my friends and they were watching it so they filled me in on what had happened already and we started watching season 4. Why did they start me off by watching season 4?😭😭
THIS REALLY MADE ME SAD. This season was one of the most darkest seasons ever
right. theyy uped the violence and heartbreak so much it was painful to watch
Season 6 begs to differ
me too
Yeees!
Oof, this person didn't knew what was about to come in season 7
"That's okay, we just keep trying"
I'm crying so fucking hard. All she needed was some help and a little bit of love...
All she needed was her rain stick. But the police thought it was a weapon :-(
Omg that broke me 😢😢😢
heart kind of cracked at this ending
Jordynne Walker same I love her :(
the reason for why she's in there pisses me off
An accurate portrayal of how the mental health system works in this country. Most of them are just locked up in prisons instead of getting them the help they need.
One of the main reasons is that to lock u up cost the tax payers money they can do that without u having medical to stay in a Pshyc hospital an actual hospital is a lot of money we are talking 100,000 a day not the state run facilty an actual place with therapy and meds not only drugging people it comes down to money I have been to mental hospitals for depression aniexty suicidal ideation I have also been incarcerated before I got insurance I was charged and convicted of a felony due to not having proper mental health treatment then I was incarcerated
ludarcis behavior I have also had my down parts in my mental health, I have schizoaffective disorder, and when they happened I was so terrified I’d end up in a place like this. Thankfully when I finally told my parents they got me help even on a health trial that gave me free psychologist sessions along with doctors sessions and pills that were extremely helpful in my worst times. Watching Lolly’s story play out I couldn’t stop crying because if she had just had the right people around her to see her spiral then she wouldn’t have to be going through this right now. Same with people in real life. I’m so thankful for living in New Zealand.
Same things happen in other countries, your issues aren't that bad, shut the fkk up
"That's OK. We just keep trying." I fucking lost it.
Yeah...that broke my heart so much :'(
i just love that little sad "hi mr healy"
Saddest scene in this series.
2nd saddest
+Holly Williams what's the first too you?
+Shizen Wong end of season 4.. (Not spoiling)
+Holly Williams i dunno, i found this way sadder for some reason
+mightybison15 this was so sad but I just think I was more attached to poussey
Season 4 was seriously so depressing... like, more depressing than it had to be at some points. Almost every individual story/plot ended with an innocent character meeting some sort of miserable fate :(
Drew Thomas yeah for example Suzanne that ended up beating kukudio
y u n o including Pousseys death, Dogget's rape, this scene, Alex's murder, Piper being branded.. etc etc, this was literally the darkest season of the show 😧
Anonymous Anonymous definetly
5 was... n now 6. It's getting darker each season
Anonymous Anonymous piper deserved to be branded. she sided with the nazi girls.
This hit me, right in the feels. She is an excellent character.I hope she returns the next season
I hope so too. I think she will, there is still a lot of Loll's story to tell and Healy has gotten attached to her too.
+GiGi Healy has gotten attached to almost every woman who comes to him. he has attachment problems
+limegreen lover Yeah he does, but I think that is because he feels like he didn't/couldn't take care of his mother. Don't you?
me too she was so funny.
Sebastian Oyola V wait she dies in the at part?
Lori Petty deserves an Emmy for her role as Lolly. It was one of the stand outs of this past season.
Mr Hearly deserves it because he did a W move
People say that episodes 12 and 13 are the saddest but episode 11 should also be included. To see Mr Healy deteriorate and completely break down was difficult to watch as we have known him as this cold, cowardly figure for far too long. This was a very, very difficult episode for me to watch and I felt every inch of the sadness and helplessness portrayed by both characters. Amazingly well done as was the whole season.
I agree 100% I don't know how to feel about him. one moment I hate him, another moment I feel bad for the guy and just wanna give him a hug. he's a tragic character to say the least
It's a testament to how complex all the characters are. They all have both bad sides and good sides for the most part. Healy wasn't perfect, he could be an ass and then turn around and try to be a good guy. Now that I look back maybe it's because he was dealing with mental illness himself, like a manic depressive or bi polar. He really tried to help Lolly, he's heartbroken.
@@ChaseSanity yup it shows what people are really like in the world. Every person is not good or evil like black or white. Its all greys. People have good in them and they can also be bad too. Shout-out to the show for showing the com0lexity of human psyche. There is no one villain or one hero.
He tried to save her like he tried to save his mother but he failed... and he has lost himslef too.
We knew what was going to happen, we saw the fall step by step and that was so heartbreaking :(
She's so sweet..poor poor girl! She's like a child😕😔
***** right?😔 mental illness is heartbreaking!!
+Farhaana Beato so true, I have a daughter, with my partner's genetics, but it does skip generations etc. and also, remember, knowledge is power girl. Don't let yourself be consumed by the fear that you will, also become that way. Some people can be fine, and drugs or alchohol or trauma or all the above, can bring it out. stay true to you girl 🌹
This really left me empty. That's horryfying with the woman screaming and Lolly yelling for Healy.... That's.... It... I can't describe the feeling....
You might wanna stop being too emotionally attached to fiction
@@Deep-dive-hustle it's reality that's what you don't get
@@Deep-dive-hustle You might wanna go play in rush hour traffic.
"That's okay, we just keep trying."
This hit me so hard.
The only time I cried in this show... Poor Lolly :'(
and pousseys death 😢😢😢
same
lolly > poussey tbh
;(
Melissa Vera ikr, poussey's death I was like "wtf?? you must be kidding me hahahahahah"
Rainha do Close yeah, i like poussey but her death was so wtf? shes not my fav. btw lolly and healy storylines broke my heart ;(
It hurts me to think about how underrated this scene is. Everybody talks about Poussey's death being such a tear-jerker, and that it is. But this scene is so powerful to anyone who knows someone who suffers from mental disabilities and has attended such a hellish environment. Watching someone you KNOW is a good person, completely lost and confused, getting hauled away like an animal for feelings they didn't ask for and cannot control.
I'm an actor, and whenever a director wants me to cry on the spot, this is one of my favourite scenes to channel.
this scene was the only time i cried in the series
Really? I cried several times in Season 4.
+GiGi me too season 4 the ONLY season I cried
What about Trish's death in season 1?
YellowFreak I didn't cry when she died. I was sad, but I didn't cry. Maybe it was because it was the first season and I hadn't really gotten attached to any of the characters yet. I don't now. I remember being really mad at Mendez for forcing her to sell the pills, but I didn't cry.
YellowFreak honestly i didnt give too shit as far as i rememberd she was a stupid crack head and i dont really remember season 1 soo....
She didn't hurt anybody
She continuously talk to herself
Why did he send her there?
She killed the police officer..
alex killed him, and it was self defense
+LiwiaGoszynska Lolly killed him, she kicked his chin out
She left him for dead, she was the one who did it.
Nobody cares if it was self defense because their in prison.
cuz she killed somebody
Bring lolly back pls she's one of the most interesting characters
shes in psych, she is so fucked in there no chance she will be getting out after what she did.
+Zephane remember the pieces of paper Alex was burning? Well, they didnt all get burned...
+Zephane lmao after what she did?? More like after what Alex did it wasn't only Lolly
IF SHE DONT GET A EMMY FOR THIS IM RIOTING!!
The irony of this comment is fucking amazing
i dont like mr healy but to see him cry for lolly was omg
"I'm just trying to go back In time back before I killed that guy" that part truly broke my heart😢😭😭
Really sad scene, and Lolly's story was one of the best.
Really says a lot about the terrible way the system deals with mental illness, especially one as misunderstood as schizophrenia.
"Mr.Healy.....did we travel back in time...?" I"M LITERALLY CRYING!!!
I seriously miss this woman. This was literally the only time this show made me cry Season 4 is so depressing
Welp she is back
damn when lolly started to hear the scream my heart broke
damn this scene was powerful
This crushed me
Mr Healy is such a miserable character, he so lonely and lolly would talk to him 😢
Why does she remind me of Ellen DeGenerous
Ellen DeGenerates reminds u of Lori Petty.
"that's OK we'll just keep trying" that line right there had me in tears
I just completed watching this episode and I must say : season 4 Ep 11 was the most tough & difficult night of Litchfield . I never expected this show to take such a dark turn.
she saved alex's life while Piper couldn't and helped talk with her with the murder problem.
when she said "Thats okay, we just keep trying" REALLY HIT ME IN THE FEELS made me sad
We have the same profile picture! potatoes are everything
This lady is such an excellent actress. She really bought the character to life.
This scene pierced my soul and left me in tears 😭 Poor lolly I hope there's something good for her in the future
This scene has made me cry multiple times. Lolly doesn’t know she may have problems, but she doesn’t deserve that. She’s such a sweet scared person who is helpless and alone even from the beginning
this scene made me cry so much omg
This broke my heart.....she's like a child
I love Lolly :(
Lolly and Healy were the two best characters in season 4! Lolly needs to come back as she didn't actually kill the guy and is brilliantly entertaining, and I used to hate Healy but he has redeemed himself so well since the season 2 finale! Both are amazing actors and need to come back
“Mr Healy.... Mr HEALY! MR HEALY!!”
I bawled my eyes out
Man you say that dudes face he was destroyed inside. I could not imagine working in such a place. The pay isn't even that good either and the pain isn't worth it.
Possibly the best scene in the entire series. Lori Petty kills here.
Lori Petty has been one of my favourite actresses since I was a kid. I fell completely in love with her in tank girl when I was a child. She was the first female movie character that I had an actual crush on and showed me I wasn’t straight. It doesn’t surprise me that she was able to portray her character so well making it so easy to connect with her and be emotional for her. She is a blessing to this world and I adore her.
So much love for Lori
I never felt anything for this character but damn I cried so fucking hard by this scene
hands down most heart breaking scene
Lolly knocked him out
Alex choked him to death
Lolly couldn’t move her cart
Alex was a drug dealer
Lolly defended Alex
Alex was going to let red and Freida kill her
Lolly wanted to go back in time to fix everything so much so she built a time machine
Alex wanted to forget it
So really
Who should’ve ended up in psych
i freakin hate this scene:( i love lolly
i just watched this scene and i’m currently bawling my eyes out for the first time while watching this show . this terrible situation just portrayed so well and it’s absolutely heartbreaking
One thing I love about this show is how many layers the characters have. It makes them more real. Most real people aren't "bad" all of the time, and they're not "good" all the time. Mr. Healy is often ignorant, bigoted, manipulative, and a host of other unpleasant things. But occasionally he has a scene where you can see that he truly does care about the inmates and really wants to make a difference. He is not really a bad guy, he's just misguided. He tried so hard to help Lolly.
The only time i ever cried in this entire show. This is the one that got me the most.
"That's okay we just keep trying :D" IM CRYING AGAIN
I just left the mental health field, I couldn’t keep watching my clients work so hard towards getting better and then be failed by the health care system and end up in places like this ( mental hospitals are like this too) where all of their work would be undone with the added debt of their stay, i would stay up for nights worried about the people I was trying to help, i relate to Mr. Healy so much in this scene
I just watched this scene omg!! I loved them both! 😭 Mr Healy was so patient and understanding making Polly feel like what she was thinking was right! Mr Healy relates to her and understands her and is really understanding. Then when Polly realises he stands there heartbroken!!! 😭 He looked how I felt omg!! His job is extremely hard and he’s trying to help these girls but he’s trapped like them between what he feels and what is required from his job! Sooo damn sad tho!! Poor Polly and Healy fr
Lolly just needed the *right* kind of help. Unfortunately she didn't get that.
I felt bad for her that part was sad she didn't deserve this, this is what happens when you try to be nice and help people
always sends a chill down my spine...
When she said "That's ok we'll just keep trying" killed me. Right in the feels and the other scene is in season 4 at the very end when Poussey looks at the camera, unharmed and happy. And then that episode where that inmate is sent for compassionate release, oh right in the feels..
"We just need to keep tryin " and when she started screaming I cryy so much
I really loved her, she was funny as hell and crazy
Lilly’s personality in Season 2 was so different, I don’t think they had yet written the actual character at that time.
Lolly was the kindest character I've seen so far seeing those flashbacks in her previous life. it was heart breaking af
I really want to see more of psych and max in season 5
Lolly was my favoutire character!!!!
my favorite person in the show - this scene broke me
Season 4 was so good. I loved every episode. Full of drama and a touch of light heartedness here and there. For me Alex and Nicky really shone this series, as did Pennsatucky. However, kudos to Lori Petty who plays Lolly. She was so good this season with her mental illness and the way she portrayed it. What started out as a funny, crazy character soon turned into someone deeply disturbed and played so so well by her. This scene and the previous ones leading up to it were so well acted I found it to be difficult but compelling viewing
am I the only one who is fucking balling??????
Oh my god, that hit me hard.... I honestly don't have any words...
I cry every time. She was so hopeful and bright.
I love all the characters in OITNB, but Lolly, I loved her so much..
One of the first scenes with Lolly when Piper meet her on the plan is excellent, which was one of my personal favourite moments with her, anyway, from there you got a good insight for the character, which had a lot warmth and goodness, despite her mental issues.
The papers in the trash can weren't all burned, people will find the papers and Lolly will be brought back! Especially now everyone is saying how good Lori Petty's performance was
i realllllllly hope so
I don't want her or Alex to get in trouble but lolly needs justice
I cried so many times in orange is the new black... 😢😢💔 lol
this scene is in my top 3 of saddest scenes ever in oitnb.. im crying again.
I think Poussey death scene was the Saddest
This was a close second
+lce_bear someone dying over a minium crime like a small amount of weed comes first. you forget what poussey life was like in the last season. her smiling and living a great life then dying on cold prison for on a small ass amount of weed? foh
+Nia Glasco hey we all got opinions and in my opinion Lolly was sadder but I did cry for Poussey
lce_bear that's the dumbest thing I ever heard.
+Nia Glasco and that was the rudest thing I've ever heard. You need to learn to respect other people's opinions besides this is a just show!
I love her I’m really crying
Lolly was one of my favorites like I love her so much🥺
This hurt my heart so much
this hit me hard. I didn’t expect it. I didn’t know what to expect. I was just so shocked and it’s so sad and the music and everything, but what tops it off is that this is what it’s actually like.
Lolly was the star in season 4 and this scene really broke my heart!!
This scene got me the most :(
I had tears in my eyes watching this.
Facts one of the saddest parts tbh I cryed a little
0:39 made me wanna cry
I also think the dude who plays Healy should win an Emmy or something, he's fucking brilliant. his character can be calm and collective, as well as easy to set off and angry. he could be kind and generous, as well as cold. at times i fucking hated him, but other times I felt so fucking for him and wanted to give the guy a hug. and this scene is an example.
This made me so fucking emotional
god that would be terrifying
this scene was extremely well acted.
healy saw his mother in lolly. him crying just made me think of when he was a child.
This was the hardest thing for Mr Healy to do, before this, he took a mental swim, got ice cream, tried to escape his job to save himself, than he has to face the music and he can just sit their and just stare as he's breaking apart inside
these specific scene made me cry, lolly was so sweet, when she kept screaming for healy, it broke my heart.
I'm crying lord she was just trying to help🙁 the way she started crying when she saw the woman screaming I couldn't do it 😭😭
Holly: "Mr Healy, did we travel back in time"
Me: Death*
I love lolly😭🥺
This is like something out of a horror movie