Canon R5 Mark II Specs Leak: Game-changing dynamic range?
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Did you give up on giving away the r5? You stopped all advertising for that.
That’s cos he set an insane target of 100K subs. He might hit that when the R5mkv comes out..
@@gavthane e deserves 100K subs. Best camera news channel ever!
@@jadie1234anot a question of good or bad content. Many other TH-camrs doing reviews and talking about rumours. A rumours only TH-cam channel as its limits. 100k is unrealistic. I would be curious to know how much growth he has achieved since he started the contest. He still in the 50k subscribers… similar number when he announced the R5 contest!
Just had an email from Canon announcing the event.
11am BST 17th
Batteries. Make them high enough voltage so they can fully power the big white primes when using the battery grip.
One can dream...
I already placed a pre-order with my local camera shop! Iv been waiting for the right camera to finally upgrade from crop sensor dslr to mirrorless! Can’t wait!!
To be fair that was years ago with the original R5/R6 and R3. The difference between DSLR and these mirrorless is night and day
@@aevitas_ true but I only started photography in 2019 so a crop dslr for my limited photography was perfect and a big expensive R5 at the time was way beyond my needs. To be fair it’s still beyond but I’m expanding into different areas (wildlife/sports/events) so I want a camera that will suit me for years to come as I’m not looking to upgrade every two years.
Buy a new camera model as soon it's released isn't good at all...
@@Uisci81 Fair enough, you'll love the R5, it's such a big step up from a DSLR!
All good news. What about the touch screen, will it have articulations like those of th A7R V?
If all these rumors turn out to be true, it's a buy!
Well, we got the date correct, so I suspect the sensor and price will be bang on as well.
Regarding the card slots - I just wished they'd have two of the same slots. I'd definitely prefer 2 CFExpress B slots, but if not, just do two SD slots so that when using the other slot as a backup, it's not waiting for the slower slot to catch up.
I do too. I merely use the SD card slot as a backup. It is frustrating having to change the recording options when switching between 4K120 and other modes.
yeah, wish other manufacturers would also go dual CFExpress-A/SD combo as Sony does. With PCI-E gen 4 or even gen 5 there is very little reason to keep using CF-Express type B. Even with gen 3 its better than B type unless camera use 2 of them.
@@anupew3276 Why would anyone want to run slower 1x cards vs faster 2x cards is beyond me. On top of that, the type-A cards are more expensive. I can see type-B /uhs-ii combination slots will mostly become the de facto standard for mid-range, and type-c cards, for high-end pro bodies, going forward.
As video-resolution increases, so will the requirements for high-speed data transfer, same goes for high-res high frame-rate stills. Just IMHO of course.
@@bsc001 compatibility. Type-A and SD uses same port. Type-B is incompatible with SD, its either or. If you use SD for backup, you are effectively running SD card speed anyway and at that point dual SD is better choice than type-B SD combination. And as for speeds, Type-A gen 3 is currently on the limits of high speed camera today, so more than enought for 99+% people. Type-A gen 4 would be more than enought even for current fastest and for future fastest camera that might surpass the limits of type-A gen 4 (or current type-B, its the same speed), those few cameras can use double type-B (or again, PCI-e gen 5 is already a thing, so why not type-A gen 5).
They did the right thing. Most shooters already have a bunch of SD cards as they’re inexpensive and you don’t need anything else unless you shoot raw video or burst shooting like crazy. I’d rather have the option to use cheap media or expensive media than be forced to use expensive media.
Will the R5 mark II have a mini hdmi plug in or will it still be the micro hdmi plug in that they have been using for their other cameras?
What I would really like to know about the Canon R5 M2 is while shooting in the electronic shutter mode: 1. will it be 14 bits? 2. Can I program multiple frame rates? 3. Can I enable an audio shutter sound?
Any indication on the length of 'pre burst'? I heard it was 3 seconds. That sounds fantastic. Please confirm.
I have read about numerous users complaining about IBIS jitter when shooting video. When you look at the videos, they are almost always recording distant subjects or landscapes.
People seem to use IBIS as an electronic substitute for a physical gimbal. What subject is the IBIS supposed to look on when your subject(s) are miles away.
I guess we need to suggest Canon add mountain recognition to the AF system.
I can confirm that if the subject is up close, the issue is much reduced.
Any idea whether the R5 mark ii will offer recording in open gate?
Thanks, Simon! Getting close now. I hope the specs live up to what we're all hoping they'll be.
Very close... not much longer now.
Thanks Simon.I,m very much a novice.Would I be correct in assuming the Canon Rf 100mm to 500mm lens which I’ve read can be difficult to focus in darker scenes perform better with an EV of -8.Or am I understanding this wrong.😊
The R5 II will be better able to focus in low light, this is especially noticeable when you are pushing the ISO way beyond what is normally acceptable.
Will R5ii have the function of recording to external SSD via USB ? Like gfx100ii .
informative news Thanks Simon.
Is it fair to say that -8EV will allow slower lenses to perform better in low light? Meaning, to perform as though they had slightly lower f numbers?
7 days to go, what a day the 17th will be!
I hope that the new image sensor will not immediately soften the image and it will make sense to finally connect manual Voigtländer for artistic bokeh and amazing detail.
That aliasing is a love hate thing. I wish there was some sort of manumatic function.
Great info; sounds like a great camera. Any idea why camera companies are still choosing 1 cfx card and 1 sd card instead of dual cfx cards?
It separates the market. For most of us, this configuration doesn't impact performance and thus outcomes, but for those that need the best performance, the alternative is the R1. Keeps the flagship as the fastest possible hybrid camera in Canon's lineup.
It has been said by other manufacturers that including two CFE cards generates and concentrates a LOT of heat.
@@billmartin1010 Have you ever felt the heat from one CFexpress card when importing the data into your computer? They get hot. Many stand alone CFexpress readers have a heatsync.
Thanks Simon - are there any Canadian camera sites (Toronto) that will offer R5 MarkII bundles?
Call Patrick at downtown camera. I have his phone number in the description of all videos. He's reliable and always sharpens his pencil, just mention my name ;) If you need it shipped, they do UPS and don't charge for it.
Ooooh. Since im in Aus, the announcement actually falls on my bday.
I got the R6II in Jan. Massive improvement over the original R. Might have to snap this up, too. Such a pain swapping to and from handheld to gimbal rig at events. Plus higher 4k fps.
Unfortunately, the cost will be AUD$6000-6500.
Wow! Great Specs!
One additional thing I'd like to see is focus breathing compensation. Most Canon lenses, including their L lenses, breathe quite a lot. That's annoying for video. The competitive Sony and Nikon cameras have it. Any word on that for either the R5 II or R1?
Yes agreed. I'd be surprised if we dont' get this John.
Email just received from Canon Europe states announcement due on the 17th July at 11am BST. Sorry can't post link as it appears links get deleted. 🙃
Yep, and just published my video covering this :) I'm very thank you to my sources for being first and correct on this.
Thank you for updates! Any update on cinema os like R5c?
We will know next week. The R5 II is supposed to take on a lot more video capabilities.
Thank you! Good content 👍 Keep going 🎉
"Book the mark them" lol Great video man keep it up.
Thanks and thanks for watching.
I wonder if the R52 will have dual base ISO when shooting in video.
Why consumers have to buy a cooling grip? This should came in the box with camera.
Cooling issue was well known issue in the R5 & R6. Partially solved in R5c. One expects the R5 mark 2 architectur is designed to over come the overheating issue. But to have an issue in the design then force consumers to buy a cooling grip to overcome it is ridiculous. Unless I'm missing something
Maybe its pricing. So photographers that are not using the R5ii for Video don't pay for those top end video features? Maybe Canon some make some money?
From what I understand, the body will have a standard heatpipe solution. For most use-cases, it will suffice, should be a good improvement on what the R5 had. The active (read fan) cooler sitting in the grip will most likely only be required when shooting high-res video at high fps in elevated ambient temperature environment.
So it comes down to keeping the price at a decent level for most, and the extreme pros forking out a bit more. A good compromise at the end, imho.
Yes, you'll need to buy it. Most likely one of the caveats for recording 8K60 will be the grip - both for additional power & cooling
@@definedphotographyYeah, I agree. Cooling grip will be $000’s
What’s the rumored shutter synced speed for the R5ii
would definitely be nice to have a faster sync speed :)
This 59 year old thinks this will be my last camera. I LOVE my R5! i am so excited for the Mark II!
Let’s stay positive. I am 57, and am hopeful to see many more generations of bodies in my bag :)
@@bsc001 Yeah, we will see. LMAO!
@@jadie1234a haha, fingers crossed, for us both :)
Will it have triple base iso? like the C400
We don't know yet. I assume dual base ISO at minimum.
i am so ready to pre order
Me too my friend. Money ready to go!
16 Steps DR is what I was hoping from an R1 with 24MP. In the R5MKII, I would be happy from 15 steps and above 😀, so this sounds great 👍. But if R5 MKII is at 16 steps, then the R1 will be at least at 17Steps 😮. After the poor DR of the partial stacked Z6iii I was afraid that the Canon Stacked could also bring no DR improvement, so I will be happy if this information is true. Now I hope that 8K 60 will be working without overheating for at least 40 min, and this without the using of the new cooling solution with the ventilated grip(from the many patents you have posted by time). 8K 30 should be without overheating at all. Thank you Simon for the updates 👍.
Let's see what the real world brings. I wonder about Clog 2 or even a c log 4...
@@OrdinaryFilmmaker with a 14 bit sensor how are you going to get more than 14 bit DR I do not think the math works for that.
I just got the 200-800 2 weeks ago, I ordered in November.
I know. People think I am exaggerating when I say people still don't have it yet.
@@OrdinaryFilmmakerI ordered mine Nov 10th & STILL don't have it! 🤬
Nice video, Si, thank you for the update. Even though I’m a Nikon shooter, extremely happy of these specs come to pass on this body, as invariably, it will drive the others to step up their game. Great time ahead for Canon shooters.
I would think the shutter-speed will increase to 1/16000th, and also hoping that DR is not sacrificed much with going fully stacked. As an engineer firstly, I am quite excited to read more about the new sensor-design once it drops. It is amazing how much progress we have seen in this space the last decade.
As I have stated per your earlier video, good innovation for Canon taking the heat outside the body. I can see a time coming where all serious videography bodies will use a similar approach. As the processors get more powerful, and fabs shrink the gates down to ever smaller nm scale, we will see a bigger need for this going forward, similar to how computer processors are making almost exclusive use of heat-pipe /vapor-phase chamber cooling. Leakage-currents become a real issue at these small gates, so I will not be surprised if more bodies go active cooling in the future.
Exciting times :) Keep up the good work, and greetings from Hanoi this week.
I am excited!!!!
I am totally bought into the RF system and am in love with my R5 and looking forward to the R5 Mark ii. HOWEVER... The specs I have seen so far are not indicative of a "Master of Everything" moniker. Canon's frequent delays... may be telling us something... they were/are not ready! Also, "after the first 10 cameras are released" how long will the rest of us have to wait for honest critiques and general availability of the camera? None of this is directed to you Simon, but you do have the best Canon related Vlog.... so here I am :)
have dual base ISO?
Not sure. Some rumours indicate the R1 will have triple base ISO. Not sure if the R52 will have dual or triple.
@@OrdinaryFilmmaker will you confirm later?
Thank you for the information you've provided. It has been very helpful and exciting. Let's look forward to the release of the R5II in July 17th together. your fans in Taiwan
Very interesting, Simon.
Nikon said it was a major challenge getting the features of the Z9 into a Z8 body. With the R5ii likely to be smaller than the Z8, I’m sure Canon is having a similar challenge. So whilst the R5ii will be a bit bigger than the R5, it sounds like Canon didn’t want to make it as big as the Z8. Its solution being a cooling grip and external power for high end Codecs seems to be the compromise for offering a smaller body than Nikon’s Z8. Interesting.
How is the pricing going to compare to the Z8? This might make the Camera affordable for people that are not into video. Highend video folks opt for the pricey grip?
Looking forward to your live stream! I'm hoping it's at a later time so I'm out of my office and I can watch.
It'll be a beast! Outside of my price-range, but I'm still loving the stories about it.
If all these specs are true then it’s a huge upgrade! Couldn’t have asked for much more tbh
5 days to go ;)
It seems to me that there will not be 16 stops and it will not bypass
the C400, which does not have such a dynamic range.
It will be on my wish list.
A few years ago frame rates were the key feature
Then it was Auto focus
Now its dynamic range?
I would not say the HFR (480 and 960 fps) frame rates would be useless because now with Topaz AI software, we can upscale the 720P and 1080P footage with good improvement.
Thinking of the R1 for wildlife photography paired with the 200-800 rf lens
Hi Simon, the faster readout speed of the stacked sensor will already greatly reduce the wobble, which is also sometimes visible on long glass when comparing stills shot with ES at 20fps.
On the mark 1, battery performance was great is ES, but at the cost of rolling shutter and wobbles, which is why nowadays I mostly stick to EFCS. And then the battery is hardly usable beyond the halfway point.
On the other hand, I believe unlike Nikon, Canon does keep on having MS & EFCS just in order to provide the dynamic range boost in those modes. The mark 1 also has 2 stops of DR difference between the modes.
Regarding the 8k60 caveats, I'm expecting them to stick to their beautiful 30 min recording limit in that mode .. just to tease the ordinary filmmakers 😛
I had been hoping for dual CFxB .. but that seems not realistic for thermal reasons in a body without integrated grip .. so it would be an awesome alternative when they have a second CFxB inside the active cooling grip ..
Can someone give me a legitimate use case for 8k60 ?? Who shoots 8k for their customers - industrial ?
Agreed. I don't see the point of needing to crop into images. No one needs more than 18MP. Who needs 45mp? Industrial customers, astro photographers?
@@OrdinaryFilmmakerfor reframing in video in post I find higher resolutions very useful. Stuff like matchcuts where things must be aligned perfectly and then also exporting a vertical crop for social media in full res
Yes, Industrial. I can't make due with 8k30
For 180 VR 2 image circles captured at 8k, allow the viewer to look around the scene when viewing.
I do, 8k 60p is a great way to future proof content especially 8k 60p edited for HDR
Caveat or canon cripple hammer?
About the new IBIS performance modes, I hope it includes a lockable IBIS. Then it would be perfect also when stabilized in a car, in this case no IBIS is better than having IBIS, a lockable Version would solve this small problem (but until now, I never needed this 😂). Maybe it will also be better on a tripod with a fluid head if it has lockable IBIS. We will know at the 17.07, up to then I guess we have to speculate, or to hope that one of your sources will deliver more details.
I thought the woodsman on the left was going to win!
Haha, I was worried about them chopping at their 🦶
Great to hear from you, Simon! Interesting stuff. Still not sure . . . how much bigger than the R5? How much heavier? What are the details on the AF changes? Likely won't know these things until after the announcement. But I haven't taken my name off any lists.
It has been very quiet. Normal sources have gone completely silent. We just need the announcement time and a few leaked photos :)
Original Canon R5 had EV -6 for focus sensitivity not EV -3.
I thought that seemed a little low. B&H does have their specs wrong from time to time and being early, I didn't think to validate. Good catch!
No bother keep up the good work Simon 👍
Any word on price?
Watch the video
One BILLION dollars!!
@@JohnnyMcMillan in all honesty I think it will be $3999
You stated R5ii preorder at Adorama for 2999 - you goofed, wrong! 2999 is for the R5, not the mkii
I really hope the ibis can lock into place.
Depending on the lens, IBIS can be turned off.
why nobody talks about if it have CLog2?
Because no one has provided credible information on the video modes. Canon Log 2 was once mentioned by CR, as was Canon Log 4.
16 actual stops sounds unreal, the GFX claim 14+
you messed up your editing at 5:41, might want to take a look
That's a bug in FCPX. Not the first time it has published a video without properly exporting. I fixed in TH-cam, but it will likely not be corrected for a day ;)
Simon, you’re always complaining about having only 1 body yet say you’re buying the R1 and R5mk2. Why not just get something like the R8 or R6 for your studio? No one will notice a difference. We just bought 4 R50’s to use extra angles for our wedding work and they produce stunning images, especially for their cost.
I own the R5. I like its performance. It's also a very popular camera. By buying the R5 II, I get an updated camera and can report back to the audience what it is like to use this camera. My buying decisions are different with the channel. I buy cameras that have the widest appeal to my audience. That being said, I think the R5 II fits in very well with the capabilities I need.
But you aren't wrong, the R50 and R8 are excellent cameras, and the R8 more than sufficient for Studio A. I might even get the R50 for my son if he shows enough interest.
Debating whether I want the R5 MKii. Have been enjoying full frame since I added the R6 MKii to my inventory, those 45 mp though awfully tempting.
👍 for the full HDMI
Indeed!
'16 stops' of DR means nothing by itself, you need to know the normalised pixel count, the test protocols, the limits (top and bottom) used and so on. On a basic DR test quite a few modern cameras can do 16 stops or even more. Also, for most photographers using normal workflows DR is not an issue. If you adapt your workflow accordingly you sometimes can take advantage. People confuse it with image noise, which is not what it is.
Your signal to noise ratio in your audio is really poor in this video. I think you compressed your audio too much. You should put an expander on it to bring down the noise floor
It needs some work... Audio isn't my specialty. I over used the compressor.
Specs leak version one hundred... Hope it will announced soon so that finally we know the real specs.
Got a email from canon it's 11.00 am gmt in the uk
Thanks. I posted a video and tweeted about it.
Let’s also remember Canon isn’t like Sony and likes to give us multiple firmware updates that don’t brick your camera so perhaps the Gen upgrade on Memory could be used for future added frame rates or maybe we’ll get the first internal storage body (joking) lol..
No word on new flip out screen? No word on full sized HDMI port?
Watch the video. I answer these questions.
Why does a video centric camera need eye autofocus?
Why would you think it wouldn’t be wanted?
Clog2?
CR said CL2 would be coming a few months back, but they also said no mechanical shutter either ;)
@@OrdinaryFilmmaker 17th is my birthday Simon! It would be an absolute dream to get myself one of these cameras as a birthday preorder gift.
A nice birthday gift to your self. My birthday is two weeks later ;)
@@OrdinaryFilmmaker hahaha happy birthday when it comes brother
Any news re paying for AI features thanks?
Yep, watch the last few videos on the AI AF. I covered it in detail.
If Nikon can offer 8K60 on the Z8 and Z9 using the internal batteries, then Canon needs to do the same. No more of that external battery nonsense to record 8K60. One of the main reasons I sold my R5c, along with the piss poor battery life.
used sony censor :D
You guys need to get of this particular high-horse. This particular Sony division has been manufacturing sensors, based on respective IP’s /designs from others, for well before Sony acquired the Minolta-Konica camera division. The camera division from Sony is a very small part of their annual business volume, and their division manufacturing electronic components, a much larger part.
Sometimes, for smaller and simple sensors, a base module is used, but then developed by others to become a specialised solution. Other times, it is completely designed by a particular camera manufacturer from the ground up, and only making use of Sony’s fab-house to manufacture the hardware.
It’s the same when Apple, AMD and now Intel, is using TSMC to manufacture their processors.
You're gonna have to get up earlier than that... :)
Oh yeah
Hi Simon 👍🏻📸🌋🌴☀️☕🏝
Hey buddy
I,ve been waiting for this camera since last year. Can’t wait to buy one plus the R1 along with the 24-105 2.8 and 100-300 2.8
In my dream!!!!! Can’t even afford to buy used R6
Dude you need to review your videos before upload...you've left your retakes in there....
Oops. It happens sometimes... Mistakes are going to happen when you're a one man-show. No one to proof!
@@OrdinaryFilmmaker , you're being kind to the help. We know that Mark messed up. Nice of you to cover for him, though.
We like it raw lol 😅
No, man, leave it as it is. It's much better this way.
He does this regularly
If the canon R5 will be good in lowlight, I will sell all my sony equipment and jump ship.
Canon, when will you have a bad boy younger than a 4 year older Sony A1?
Anything less than 4k as far as frame per second is useless
Blackout Free in late 2024 >> Great to see Canon playing Catch Up .. maybe they can also shoot at 1/32000 also
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