LGBTQ+ Person Confronts Frank and Calls Him a Bigot
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- Does the Church owe the LGBTQ+ community an apology? During a recent stop on the CrossExamined college tour, an LGBTQ+ activist shouted Frank down with a list of scathing accusations. Watch as Frank graciously responds in this brief and yet intense exchange surrounding faith, sexuality, and morality.
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morality is a matter of reason and conscience, not religious faith ! Now shut TF up ! Because belief that some behaviour is right and acceptable and that other behaviour is wrong. doesn't necessarily come from a deity!
There is a movement afoot called :Take back the rainbow." Would like to hear more about that.
The Holy Spirit.
rainbows are still out there, nothing to take back. @@tebelshaw9486
yes homophobics don't like that @@Gelo_6trey
Guy: claims he has been treated poorly
Also guy: treats frank like crap and acts like a hypocrite
I WOULD SUGGEST EVERYONE TO READ MARY BAXTER BOOK DIVINE REVELATION OF HELL. SEE WHAT HAPPENS TO GAYS IF THEY DON'T REPENT OF SIN BEFORE THE DIE. THIS IS A WARNING BY JESUS CHRIST. GOOGLE MARY BAXTER
The most bigoted people on earth are LGBTQ. If you don't bow to them, accept their child grooming, accept their groins in our faces while waving the hijacked rainbow gifted to us by God, embrace their way of life and sin, and lie for them by denying Gods creation of a MAN AND WOMAN, there fore make us call God a liar, you are a" REEEE!!! AUTO-BIGOT!"
They toss the term out in seconds. Because they know in their hearts they are wrong and in sin, and at war with God. They have zero argument, facts, or morality on their side. So they pounce with Bigot and Phobe attacks to try and shut you down and get the leftist mob (And fully compromised Christians in name only who speak fluent Christianese but have ZERO relationship with God) to ruin you and cause violence against you. Whether that be words, physical attack, loss of job, or living in fear. This is Sodom and Gamorah right ibefore our eyes and they want into our minds and into our homes and will never stop as their sin cannot be sated. It grows and grows which is things are getting more and more perverse. They get off on the power that they are decimating the Church, good peoples lives, and our civilization. The media, big tech, and other forces will keep them in untouchable status as well.
That part
more from the insane left. What do you not get, the bible is clear on gays, pedophiles and the rest. GOD destroyed the world because of this. Waring #1 Sodom and Gamorrah where burned to the ground because of the immorality and evil! Warning #2 God is coming and you will burn in hell and will be no more, All of the immoral people will be!
That's a woman
Blood on his hands? This guy isn't here for a conversation, he's here to vent his feelings only
It doesn't look good for Frank
@@dansaber5853 how? Emotional venting isn't a good argument...ever.
It's an ok starting point, but if it's the entire argument... it's quite useless
You know someone is being disingenuous, when they won’t even let you respond to their claims. Frank hit the nail on the head, it’s called a dialogue, not a monologue. If you want to monologue, go look in the mirror.
@@dansaber5853why?
@@proudmen1220he's the seed of Cain trying to please God
The fact that the guy just wanted to talk and openly admitted wanting to shut Frank down without hearing what he had to say tells you all you need to know
They think the world revolves around them.
@@scottgodlewski306 So it's ok for people like this to go around and share their "feelings" and opinions, but when Christians do the same on sharing their feelings and opinions, it's wrong?
Again, without God, everything is just a matter of an individual opinion. God exist my friend. If he didn't, there would be no wrong or right, just or unjust, moral or immoral.
@@scottgodlewski306 eh, I don’t think we should applaud anyone for refusing to communicate. He just seemed interested in hearing himself talk.
@@scottgodlewski306 if morality is subjective then no one can objectively condemn anyone as evil or praise anyone as good. Terms like good and evil become arbitrary. One man’s good is another man’s evil.
@@scottgodlewski306 To speak, and then to disallow the person to whom you are speaking to respond, is to close the door on communication.
"This narrow version of the Gospel"
"That to me is like conversion therapy"
"I know I am right"
"You got blood on your hands"
That guy acts like a spoiled child. Know it all, arrogant and full of anger. Frank handled it like a gentleman
It’s a girl on testosterone. :(
Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools (Romans 1:22)
@@JackjohnjayThat’s sad.
"I'm sorry that god doesn't bend to your will how about you go to a Muslim speaker and see how he feels about your opinion." Would be my response but I'm not as smart or eloquent as he is
@@robertdesantis6205Truth. Hell will be full...
I don’t know how Frank does it, but his patience and show of grace to others is unmatched.
I don't know seem like Frank couldn't even find the doorway
His patience comes from truly believing what he preaches, that all people are created in God's image, even Matt/Mav (sp?) who just came there that day to lecture him. When you see all people as image-bearers of God, it changes how we relate to them, even when they hate us.
Dr. Turek does have a lot of patience, but even his calm demeanor pales in comparison with the Christians who were tortured and murdered throughout history for their faith. Culture is rapidly shifting against us, and I do not think it is unreasonable to see the days of actual persecution return within the next 20-30 years. We already see it on a small scale where businesses are being forced to violate their beliefs to make cakes for people celebrating behaviors that we cannot, in good conscience, use our God-given gifts to celebrate. Physicians are being fired for refusing to provide "Healthcare" (i.e. abortive services; gender affirming care) to women and trans people. But we shouldn't worry about this, even though we certainly will do whatever we can to resist. We were promised this. As Christ said, "The world hates you because it hated me first."
@@sidwhiting665 Like every delusional maniac with no evidence, he preaches, and he gets validation by the thousands of people dumb enough, or criminal enough to follow him.
Why are you always on these videos? Do you realize how short your life is?@@dansaber4427
@@Scotty-Z70you guys are the seed of cain. I'm trying to help you.
The young Man cares more about his feelings than he does the truth…..
Why would you hold on to something that made you feel bad?
@@dansaber5853because the truth always changes things for the best. People simply don't want to change.
@@dansaber5853 Who said it makes the young man feel bad, not me
@correction the entire LGBTQ community cares more about their feelings then the truth
@Quint-ib4nf No truth? How did you come to that conclusion and by what standard?
"Blood on your hands"
The intense delusional victim complex that gives people like these a sense of entitlement is actually insanity.
This is a bully tactic designed to shame people into silence. This person wants everyone who doesn't affirm the letter soup lifestyle to feel like they're to blame for all the 12846289294... LGBTQRSTUVWXYZ ppl who kill themselves so that the people who don't affirm that shut up. That's what it is, a coward entitled bully tactic to shame opposition into silence and i wish frank called the person out on that (haven't watched the vid yet but based on the comments, i'd say he did not)
I have become convinced some of these people are demon possessed.
How many people does it take before the religious realize that there have been more people killed in the name of God, then most diseases have killed. How many doctors have been killed because the religious don’t agree with their procedures? You look around the news and see wicked things being done all in the name of God. Don’t talk to me about morals.
What's interesting is the people with actual blood on their hands are the abortion fans, the gender ideologues, and the social reformers.
Liberalism is a Mental Disorder !
The fact that she says it’s harmful and wrong for him to believe in repentance, all the while demanding he repent is hilarious.
Always No Foundation
It's what vomiting pain looks like. It's never logical or rational. And anything challenging whatever coping mechanisms or emotional medication is being clung onto is treated like a life threatening danger... because to allow what I'm holding onto as my identity to be challenged in any way would take everything from me. Or at least that's how it feels. That's what identity politics and a society that enables trauma responses (as "my truth") does to people.
She who?
Wait, he's a she?
Pretty sure that's a dude though
"Do you want to have a conversation?" "No!". Well at least he was honest.
I think it was a her
I do give him that. And truth is always a good thing.
Whatever its, but he/she is true definition of bigotry, selfish and arrogant.
People like that are spiritually convicted by God, meaning God is calling them to repentance. Because deep down in their hearts-conscience, they know it's wrong and unnatural, which is why they're so bothered.
@@Jswell_it
It’s amazing how Frank took that unpleasant interaction and turned it into a teachable moment
@@jomama-rj5yq😂😂😂😂😂 I actually laughed out loud at the “Christler” joke. Ha ha good one.
Yes. We need alot of training to face ppl like that which are only wanting to be heard but never want to hear others. Mr. Frank done a great job there. Well it is how a Christ followers must do lol
I hope i can be like Mr. Frank as well. Please pray for me 😂
shame homophobics don't just repent
You need to be more specific about what repenting of homophobia is and looks like.
@@thomasarnoldcoe6527 Homophobia is a chosen lifestyle of hate lies and bigotry, are these things we don't need to repent of? REALLY?
The problem is when people keep wanting to redifine the bible to suit their lifestyle. I think Frank was very gracious in his response. Very humble and respectful.
Christians that use contraception in their marriage have nothing to say against gay marriage.
The first time “sinners” is used in the Bible is in connection to a bunch of fairy, fruitcake homosexuals
Genesis 13:13 “But the men of Sodom were wicked and sinners before the LORD exceedingly.” KJV
@@Kevin-nr9hp well you seem to have some hate towards the gay people themselves. No need to name call, a gay person that reads your comment might say, ya keep your so called loving religion to yourself
Very well said
@@Kevin-nr9hp Oh gosh - a Christian bigoted against homosexuals
Shocking
Amazing how some people think they have a monopoly on having been treated poorly in their life and the rest of us have to feel guilty for their pain.
Plus, why should christians keep out every non repentant sinners, like adultereres, murderers, prostitutes, liars, theaves, but homossexuals ? Why should them get special treatment anyway ?
Maybe if they think they have been treated poorly they need to ask a Jew how they felt during WW2 extermination.
@@robg_ Or a palestinian today.
Matt only spoke truth when he said he wasn’t there for a conversation. These kinds of encounters are so heartbreaking. Thank you, Frank, for your beautifully humble spirit in dealing with such things!!!
They're just expressing what Frank makes them feel
was it "Matt" or "Mav"? I thought i heard the latter.
Facts don't care about your feelings.@@dansaber5853 Seriously, Dan, consider getting a healthier hobby than searching for people online you disagree with.
That's the only truth he spoke sadly. That he wasn't there for a conversation, everything else was his opinion.
@@dansaber5853 What God makes them feel. The Law exposes sin. Christ forgives sin and makes way for people to come to him. Anger at God blocks that path.
It is a shame that Mav experienced poor reactions to him. But his anger is not just at them.
There is pain in that young person's past they haven't properly dealt with. Usually when that happens a person will vent their pain as aggression on anyone who opposes what they have found as a comfort zone. I believe Frank understands this and it's why he still shows so much patience and compassion for these people.
Very well said
Acting that way is no excuse. No matter what you have experienced, it’s not worse than what Jesus Christ had to endure for all of us. This is just one of the many reasons as to why we need God, Jesus, and the Bible. I mean, Atheists and the LGBT community talk to us Christians about morals, when their morals are usually backwards or even sometimes correct, when it comes to certain things, but it’s all their opinion only, since they don’t believe in God and can never answer to why they believe their opinions about morals are correct. It’s just “that’s how I think and feel, so, it must be true.” Which isn’t good enough. Also, I think that Atheists are being way more cruel to us Christians than Christians are to Atheists. This video right here is a great example.
Another reason people lash out this way is guilt. They know, deep down, that they're wrong but they're looking for someone to put a stamp of approval on their behavior. This young man wanted Frank to give him the thumbs up for his behavior and obviously didn't want to hear anything that might make him feel guilty. If you go back to when Nathan told David the parable about the man's pet lamb being eaten by his greedy neighbor you'll see that. David lashed out and demanded the man be executed. That's pretty harsh punishment for eating a pet lamb. When David heard that parable, he saw himself and didn't like the picture. He even talks about this incident and the guilt of his sin in Psalm 32.
@@HeatherAngus-vj2jq I never said that I excuse their behavior. However, I understand why they do it, especially having suffered trauma myself. No, what they endured wasn't worse than Jesus on the cross, but I won't tell a person to suck it up or tell them their pain/feelings are invalid because of that. It was still pain and hurt that they didn't deserve. Most of the time it was while they were children which makes it worse. I don't think this video shows that person being cruel to Frank, just angry and stubborn in their sin, which we all do. We are not better than them. Just forgiven.
@@normanwhite6677 Yes, many times it is guilt. Over the years I have learned something about the LGBT+ community. Alot of the reason that they are how they are is because of trauma or neglect, especially as a child. They then find someone in that community that relates to them and makes them "feel good" or comfortable. They are accepted. Unfortunately the Christian community has failed in the area of reaching out with love and compassion on someone who doesn't fit the stereotype of masculine men or feminine women but putting them in the LGBT category and thinking that they are doomed for that lifestyle. They then get shunned and treated like outcasts. We also have only recently encouraged counseling for mental health and traumatic events, though some denominations still don't. Even Jesus talked about having good counsel in your life.
I applaud Frank because he doesn't lose his temper and would love to have such skills to help people know the gospel too
Frank talks about the LGBT because that's what's inside him. It's out of abundance of the heart the mouth speaks.
@@dansaber4427
LGBTQ Logic in a nutshell:
@@buddy_132 do you think Frank is always responsible with his thoughts? Or does he sin... we know he's capable of them because he's just told us about what's inside him.
@@dansaber4427Satan accuses the saints of Christ. Are you listening to your father?
Just filter your responses - any response that's from the ego / emotion, don't let it have it's way. Just point out facts about God and point out how even you/me are accountable in the same way.
People having certain desires does not mean they were born that way, otherwise every sinful desire can be deemed just fine "because I was born that way" and hence any action because of that desire becomes permissible.
Certain behaviors are sin, God makes it clear 100% of us are guilty, and God offers forgiveness to us having judged our sin on the cross. While we may not be 100% perfect in thought, word and deed, for us to refuse to stop certain behaviors that God says is sinful, is simply rejecting God's forgiveness. Every believer has to stop behaviors / feelings / emotions they would rather act on - LGBT is no different.
LGBTQ+: "I was born this way."
*Jesus Christ:* "Ye must be born again."
Frank has a lot more patience than I do.
He may come out of the closet eventually
@@dansaber4427 What kind of smooth brained comment is that?
@@27Zangle God uses foolishness to confound the wise
@@27Zangle @dansaber4427 That of a person whose obsession with Frank guides them to comment throughout this video. On the plus side it helps the algorithm
@@joshd3502I'm trying to reach as many people as I can just like Frank
Mav is the voice of atheism. Angry at God who they say doesn't exist because He rightly convicts us of our sins. Emotional outbursts and accusations with no interest in listening.
Like you? When you had to delete your own thread in humiliation and ran away?
Lol.
Very true festus. The atheist apologist have nothing in their arsenal but ad hominem attacks mocking and condescending remarks
@@mattslater2603two wrongs fallacy?
A true relationship with Christ brings freedom and repentance (turning from).
Deleting and becoming ashamed of your behavior is a sign of a healthy conscience. One who cannot admit fault and delete mistakes is a sign of a Godless one.
@@mattslater2603
Lol shlatzy.
Would that be similiar to the time you tried to convince me man was an evolved Ape, presenting your pseudoscience claims to me and then claimed you couldn't see my comments and ran away?
I've got a few more examples of you running away from a discussion if you'd like them, princess!
@@G1stGBless Two wrongs fallacy?
Nope.
Just pointing out Festys hypocrisy, here.
It's only a matter of time before he gets triggered into dropping his cheap Christian veneer
He/she/whatever says that Frank disrespected the LGBTQ community while simultaneously disrespecting Frank during the interaction.
The hipocrisy of these people is gigantic.
They are the real bigots. Arrogance and emotion blinds them unfortunately.
You can be LGBT and Christian 👨❤️👨
@@mewtwo3046no, Frank is still the real bjgot. Calling out and being intolerant of bjgotry isn't bjgotry.
@@dansaber5853 why would anyone who has an identity in Christ wish to identify as anything else, especially when Christ himself lays out what the purpose for human sexuality is clearly: one man, one woman, married for a lifetime?
@@dansaber5853
1 Corinthians 6:9 & 10
Anyone reading this comment. Say a prayer for this young person. In fact, say a prayer for me! I need to soften my heart towards these people.
Ok. Will do.
its not the people brother it is the sin that has u and me upset, God hates sin and when ur walking with him u will hate sin also!
I pray Frank repents of his homophobia
@@pastorbri Read the Bible before you lead others to hell
@@vaughnslavin9784 says the one who hates the bible while leading people to hell is a bit rich old bean....you need to repent, read a real bible and stop leading others to hell.
It's pretty hard to keep up a conversation with someone who isn't going to listen to your point of view.. It's really good that Frank is polite and he doesn't lose his temper
Boy that kid was rude: That is not the way to win friends and influence people. He might have felt proud of himself but by being rude and disrespectful, he squandered any opportunity to persuade any one to his view point
They think the world revolves around them.
@@Street-hermit Do you really think that? Or could it be that a group that has been drowned out for all of human history finally has a voice and they're being heard?
But do Christians ever listen to any other point of view outside the Christian dogma? Don't you believe anything else is from the devil and thus automatically invalid even before you care to examine anything?
@@scottgodlewski306 they're. They have the right of free speech but not others, they have the right to promote their opinions and ideas but not others.
I need Frank's level of patience.
definitely! He is very composed.
Frank is definitely someone who has been transformed by the Lord
So get it.... WHY ARE YOU TELLING US ?
Fruits of the spirit
@@Spriktor
in frank's case, it's the rotten fruit
Handeled rather nicely...a great example for all believers
I WOULD SUGGEST EVERYONE TO READ MARY BAXTER BOOK DIVINE REVELATION OF HELL. SEE WHAT HAPPENS TO GAYS IF THEY DON'T REPENT OF SIN BEFORE THE DIE. THIS IS A WARNING BY JESUS CHRIST. GOOGLE MARY BAXTER
I was at this particular event at Fresno State University when Frank spoke there. I saw Mav stand in line with his (or her’s, I’m not 100% sure) sign ready for a fight. Mav really didn’t want to listen and was completely governed by pure emotion and little in the way of reason. Frank was very gracious to Mav’s demands but did have to shut it down. There was a lot more to Mav’s spiel than was shown in this video. The good news is that Mav stayed at the invitation of Frank’s staff and talked with them for awhile. Pray for Mav. God can reach anyone’s heart and I pray that Mav comes to see the truth and the grace and mercy that comes with it from Christ Jesus.
I'm struggling with same sex attraction myself, but it upsets me how some people attack others for their lack of self-control. If I backslide or give in, it's my decision, my fault, and definitely not someone else's.
Before Cain murdered his brother, the Lord said to him in Genesis 4:7, “Sin lies at the door. And its desire is for you, but you should rule over it.”
I think virtually everyone struggled with sexual sin at some point in their lives. Maybe it’s a man who struggles with his desire for other men. Maybe it’s a single woman who struggles with pornography, or an engaged couple who are trying to repent of fornication. Perhaps it’s a married man who wrestles with his lust for other women, etc. Sexual temptation can befall anyone. We as Christians, recognizing sin as sin, ought to meet each other in love on these issues -not excusing them as though they are not issues at all- but encouraging each other and offering our support to help each other cease and pursue God.
God bless you for your honesty. It must be very challenging for you. Anyone who reads this, please pray for this person. Jesus be with you
But see, what does "struggle" mean? I know a lot of LGBT people that are perfectly fine with their sexuality, they're not struggling. You shouldn't need to struggle, but rather embrace it.
@@hongotedesco8931 interesting. Do they hold onto traditional/biblical Christian beliefs?
@@hongotedesco8931 It's clear that person doesn't want to embrace having these feelings towards the same sex. Why are you encouraging them and telling them to "embrace it"?? Are we supposed to embrace every sexual urge we have? Certainly not. As he said, these people that are LGBT lack self-control.
Slowly coming to the realization that many people oppose the true God because sex and lust have become their god. Sex rule their lives and many will compromise their morals for it. For example, having relations with the same sex or someone they aren't married to even though there is guilt. Having sexual relations with people they don't actually care for. Lusting after relationships and lusting for romantic love with another person. Cheat on their partner and many more examples of unholy living. You may not see it, but these and all the other sins are the things that causes our society and civilization to decline. Being gay is nothing new and has been around for centuries. It's an anomaly and it is not normal.
And I believe struggle in this context means the same as it does in any other context. "Coming out" is still a thing and will always be a thing. Same sex attraction is not natural. Those people you claim aren't struggling have given into their lustful desires so they have no desire to live righteously when it comes to their sexual desires. I can assure you however that they were not born that way and it was definitely a struggle in the beginning for them to accept that they have these feelings towards the same sex because it isn't normal to have those feelings. They got tired of fighting it and resisting so they gave into their desires telling themselves it's ok. It isn't natural yet this world has lied to them and told them it's ok, so it becomes easier to give into those temptations. It's no different than a thief stealing a penny, knowing it is wrong to steal, but thinking to themselves it's only a penny, I'm not hurting anyone. Stealing is stealing no matter how big or small and no matter who is hurt by it. Sexual sin is sexual sin and no one should be having sex with the same sex or be having sex outside of marriage.
I pray that you wake up and see the world for what it actually is and stop wearing the veil of lies you tell yourself that the pursuit of happiness as long as you're not hurting someone else is the purpose of life.
Well done, sir. Keeping it polite and respectful. Many people have been hurt and just want to prove their point when people explode at them. “See?! You are hurtful!” But staying calm and being courteous is the way to go. It probably won’t change his mind, but it’s a seed. Good on you as well for never apologizing. Never do that to folks holding that stance.
Agree!
Frank had every right to call that guy out for the selfish arrogant child that he is. Whoever he was, he cares about nothing other than himself. And his brand of manipulation should not be given into, not even one tiny bit.
Are you aware why that guy acts the way he does? If not you are just a child and are unable to see both sides of this argument.
@@paradiseb5950 Yeah, I'm aware. It's called being soft, sheltered and entitled. And no, I'm not going to entertain excuses.
Frank showed love and compassion! He handled it perfectly. You with your…this guy is selfish and arrogant child,,,not so much! Have a great day and God bless you.
@@paradiseb5950we don’t need to “know why he acts the way he does” to judge his actions. That’s snowflake-ism. That’s wokeness. Life’s tough for all. No excuses for extreme rudeness. Just extreme immaturity. Doesn’t mean we don’t wish him well. It just means we don’t play today’s games.
@@Ezdoesit64 I agree, Frank handled it perfectly. If Frank called him out more directly, he would have been well within his rights.
We've been trying to be compassionate to the point of enablement for decades now, and we have some of the most unhealthy self centered people the world has ever seen. Short version, being nice isn't doing people like this guy any favors. He needs a healthy dose of reality.
The moral high ground these people have, acting like only their lives have been tough. Buddy, pretty much all of us have been treated badly at some point of time and you know what? No one cares. You don't care. You only care about yourself and your feelings. I was a war refugee, my childhood was really really messed up. But i don't go crying around. That's life, life is tough.
And it better be tough cause it teaches you lessons ,if you got everything served on a silver plate from day one what good will come out of it ?
@@Anticommunism99 That's the goal, removing the harship that plagues mankind. I don't care it doesn't look good, i want prosperity.
homophobics don't care as they have no heart
My grandfather was a prisoner of war... Barely lived doing hard labor on a diet of water and potatoes for who knows how long. Every time I felt sorry for myself that reality of how much worse he had it at one point would always pop in my head. Seems like the most privileged soft kids on the planet do most of the complaining.
@@AlexKunstar I dunno, I see many homophobics do a lot of moaning
We need to start putting this back on them. Who introduced and promoted this logically indefensible worldview to them in the first place? Who keeps telling them that everyone who disagrees with it doesn't just disagree but hates them personally? Who keeps implying their only options are to successfully force acceptance of their worldview onto others or unalive themselves? It sure isn't us.
I resent the way they adopted a symbol from YHWH, the rainbow, as a "call to arms." What they don't realize is, they are indirectly attesting to the fact that next time, the earth will be destroyed by fire. Edit: And in response to the reply below, it is entirely possible to hate a person's behavior without hating the person. "All you who love the LORD, hate evil." Psalm 97:10
Apparently there's a lot of LGBTQ in China. They don't have the problems with rainbow flags and abusers trying to dominate free speech and women's spaces cause in China they're already Communists.
They get it fm these atheistic prof,s in these ungodly universities they brain wash them… wind them up & sent them out to do the dirty work they,re toooo cowardly to do themselves… that’s where it comes fm
homophobics do hate though
The rainbow is not copyrighted@@robertdesantis6205
Dude acts like they are the only ones that have been mistreated in life. Some people groups have been mistreated for centuries.....GET A LIFE!
Well just remember that when you start whining over people not saying Merry Christmas.
precisely. I don't think that there is any group left that hasn't been subjugated and abused throughout world history. Guy doesn't realize that by majority alone, Christians have been abused ( and in much more horrendous ways) than gays etc.
HERE SOME SCIENTIFIC FACTS ABOUT HOMOSEXUALITY:
+ The WHO, World Health Organization, stated clearly, that homosexuality not a disease or disorder, but a healthy natural sexual orientation.
+ It is most likely innate (determined by SNP in several genes and by antibodies (NLGN4Y) during pregnancy), as the opposite sex is never sexual attractive to people born homosexual.
+ Evolution scientists stated in several publications, that homosexuality exists since sexuality exists, since 385 million years.
+ They also stated, that having homosexual members in the own tribe, gives several evolutionary advantages, which explains the permanent share of 4-10% homosexuals of the population.
>> So, the question would be rather: why putting an ethical limit on homosexuality if its natural, healthy and even with a natural sense?
>> Especially now as more and more homosexuals marry and adopt and raise kids that else wise would have no parents.
Just because someone else suffers doesn't mean your own suffering is invalid. Empathy is not a finite resource.
@@mattslater2603 what a childish comment
"Narrow IS the path", young man.
He even got "her" to admit to not wanting to engage in a civil, mature conversation or discussion. God bless this man.
Wait, that's a she?
Frank, you were beyond charitable, gracious, and kind that person. I appreciate humility, while simultaneously holding hard to truth that’s a very hard balanced to have.
That guy is pretty messed up venting his anger..but my God, Jesus Christ has given grace which is super abounding above every evil activity under the sun..May that person one day see that..
Appreciate Frank for patiently and wisely handling that guy.. that's the fruit of the Holy Spirit..
"This narrow view of the Gospel! There's only one Gospel.
People that defend this lifestyle have been given favoritism so much that they feel and demand you have to do what they say without even hearing the Truth.
It's basically getting so emotional because they want their sin.
Example:
"If you want to love me, you've got to love my sin too!"
Christians that use contraception in their marriage have nothing to say against gay marriage.
What favoritism have the LBGQT community been given? In America if one is hardworking, law abiding tax paying citizen then one has rights the same as everyone else. So I don’t see admitting that these people have rights under the Constitution of this country as favoritism. Surely you are not suggesting we take their money in the form of taxes and then tell them they are second class citizens and deny them the protection of the Constitution which they support through their taxes? Surely you don’t mean that?
@@gingercake0907 gays have extra rights that no one else. The most obvious is being able to redefine marriage and pretend it's the same as an actual marriage
@@gingercake0907 I'm sure the OP is talking about cultural favoritism. And that is exactly correct.
“If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.”
Leviticus 20:13
This is the harsh truth they don’t want to hear.
So much patience! He didn’t yell, he didn’t interrupt, he answered politely before being interrupted multiple times and then said “we can’t have a monologue… thanks for coming”. Brilliant!
He did interrupt. Frank interrupted. He did exactly do that.
@@UsmanKhan-coolmf when?
1. Love God with your entire being.
2. Treat others as you’d like to be treated.
This is the sum of the law.
Correct. But not just treating others well, LOVE them. Love can even mean giving your life up, like HE said, "There is no greater love than giving your life for your friends". Someone can treat another "nice" but have behind curtains bad/second intentions; but totally right what you are trying to say there (what Jesus said to the Pharisees).
When a parent tells a child they are doing something wrong in order to set them in a direction that is good and moral that is loving. Agreeing with someone is not the definition of loving.
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@@andrew1476 - I get this, A LOT. That I'm too "harsh". I always use the "intervention" angle/analogy, when being accused of not being "loving" or "judgemental". Drunks and drug addicts don't like it when they're "taken captive", sometimes by family members, to get them to stop their destructive behavior, but it's for the greater good; THEIR "greater good".
God, is LOVE. But He's ALSO "JUST". As in "justice". To NOT do, as you, and the person below you, have proposed, is harmful to that person. Completely agree with the both of you. Even though "itching ears" folk blame us for not being "loving".
It is a bit of an oxymoron. They insist that you're doing something wrong but then reject any explanation as to how they could possibly be right.
I noticed that the kid had no facts to back up his accusations.
@@scottgodlewski306 It's a matter of personal opinion whether the explanation is "good" or "reasonable". That's the point Frank is making. Everything is just human's opinion if God doesn't exist.
@@scottgodlewski306
Take a piece of paper place on it 5 random dots then label those dots with names like Sandy or Bob.... The dots represent children at a day camp running back to the chow hall for dinner..... Tell me who's winning the race? Without a specified location for the chow hall you have no idea who is winning. Without an outside source to define exactly where the chow hall truly is we could simply place the chow hall anywhere we please and make anyone the winner.
Without an outside objective moral standard that cannot be manipulated claiming that anyone else has violatied your constantly shifting standard would be an oxymoron.
@@scottgodlewski306
Let's say you build an open world video game, as the programmer do you not have the right to build into your game world any morality you please? Why then do you deny God the same right to do what he wants with his world? What makes you think as an NPC in his world you have the right to dictate how he makes the world or even you?
Your arrogance is astounding...
As a side note your ability to make up your own morality is not evidence that God does not exist or that he cannot build into his own world a morality of his own chosing.
@scottgodlewski306 Morality is not based on God's opinion. It's based on his nature.
Also, regardless of good/evil. The behavior of the individual ranting at Frank accomplishes nothing.
Frank handled that with a lot of grace
I WOULD SUGGEST EVERYONE TO READ MARY BAXTER BOOK DIVINE REVELATION OF HELL. SEE WHAT HAPPENS TO GAYS IF THEY DON'T REPENT OF SIN BEFORE THE DIE. THIS IS A WARNING BY JESUS CHRIST. GOOGLE MARY BAXTER
They don't want to listen to another point of view! If you disagree they shout you down!
This young man needs God more than he knows. Our identities are in Christ. Any other identity is an exhausting treadmill of never-ending expectations. Christ’s yoke is easy and His burden is light. Moreover, Christ took on and conquered all the suffering this young man tried to cast upon Dr. Turek. Young man, Jesus’ blood covers you and your friends pain and suffering! God loves you. We love you. Dr. Turek is amazing.
Lots of claims, there. Can you prove any of it?
It’s a girl on testosterone.
@Luvurenemy: “This young man needs God more than he knows. Our identities are in Christ.”
Christians are a weird bunch of people. Not too long ago their hobby was torturing and burning alive thousands of innocent people as witches.
Before that the holy Catholics and the holy Protestants killed each other by the millions.
Recently the radio, trains, planes, open heart surgery and most inventions were from the Devil.
Why do Christians persistently want to tell other people how to live? Live your own damn lives in your own silly ancient mythical and superstitious ways.
We often augment logic/reason with our emotions. The best way to measure if someone is a reliable philosopher is if they can remove their own bias and emotion when challenging what is true and what is false - when trying to find the answers to life's big questions. Frank Turek demonstrates that wonderfully.
I don't respect that community.... I don't respect sin. And I don't respect bullies who use victimization in order to get their way.
You literally just described what religion does to LGBT people, bully and victimise them. Oh the irony.
Are you talking about LGBTQ+ or Christians?
@@scottgodlewski306 Obviously speaking of openly sinful homosexual "communities".
@@scottgodlewski306 Does it matter? it's all subjective you know.
@@scottgodlewski306 The alphabet
This is the very thing that I was talking about with some friends in our small men's breakfast this morning. Frank has been gifted with an unmistakable gift to show grace, mercy, patience, and love to someone who is very easy for us as Christians to hate. We must keep in our minds that these people are our mission field. Only the Lord can equip us to keep our cool during these types of encounters.
Do not get me wrong, but I have seen atheists respond the same way with love and compassion. My point is not everybody whom act like that is a believer.
As Christians to hate? Are Christians called to hate and angry? Aren’t we called to love even the enermy? Treating people as mission field is not love as well, people smells the fake love from the sales men. Just love, even the enemies - are the LGBTQ+ people really the enemies? Remember No one is saved by our perfect deed in flesh, we are all sinners one way or another.
@@jinger_m _are the LGBTQ+ people really the enemies?_
Jesus only gave the possibility of there being two genders.
*4 And He answered and said to them, “Have you not read that He who [a]made them at the beginning ‘made them male and female,’* _-- Matthew 19:4_
So that's a lie. That's being complicit with their construct that there are many genders, which is what LGB...etc. is. Yes, liars that there is such a thing and it is normal makes them the enemy. Look at the children who are indoctrinated, and it is indoctrination, to believe that they are something that doesn't exist and their lives destroyed.
@@jinger_m How are they not hating Christians, or even God for that matter? What's your definition of "hate"? Did you forget about this or have you even heard this?
*15 “If you love Me, keep My commandments.* _-- John 14:15_
So who is showing love here and who is showing hate? How can lying that there is nothing wrong with what they are doing "love"? Isn't lying to them while saying it's love actually the love that is fake, you know, like you want to do? Romans 1:32 says those who approve of the behavior, such as yourself, are just as guilty as those who practice it and are worthy of what God's judgment is, and it isn't good.
@RaiderWolf-yd6nm hi brother,
Do you remember what Jesus teaching on judging others?
"Judge not, that you be not judged." "First take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye"
Matthew 7 :1-5
Is this not Jesus's commandments?
So, can I ask you, brother, Have you already taken the log out of your own eye? Are you sinless already, so you judge their sin?
Paul says Sodom is a sin. Jesus say divorce is adultery. Is Adultery any better than Sodom? Do you go after women who divorce their abusive husband preach they should submit? The women go through abortion. Do you hate these women like you do with the LGBTQ+?
If the LGBTQ+ hate Jesus, they will not come to us. We have nothing to do with them. But if they indeed are seeking God, should we really meet them with "your sinners, you must change first!"
I am not saying it is not a sin. We should treat the vulnerable ones that came to us and ask for an answer as to how we treat people who divorce. Of course, if they join the church, then lead church brother sisters to go for enjoying flesh indulgent. That is another matter.
I can tell this confused and broken young man is dealing with guilt and shame so he’s dumping it all on Dr. Turek.
God bless Dr. Turek for keeping his cool.
Let’s continue to pray without ceasing that God will convict the unbelievers-pulling them out of darkness and into His marvelous light.
The best way to convince non-believers is to provide them with compelling evidence showing not only that a god exists, but that it is your specific god. Can you do that?
@@Captain-Cosmo The entire universe, and all the history provided in scripture, is that evidence. Most non-believers aren't interested in evidence, they're interested in not having to change their self-centered lifestyle and follow something bigger.
@@evage99 How is the "entire universe" evidence for a specific god?
How are you so certain that most non-believers are as you characterize?
@@evage99 This is the great misunderstanding believers tell about non-believers. That straw man of a person might actually exist, but they're a statistical zero.
*"I wish you were as right about what you're saying as you are passionate about it. I really do."*
-Alex Castellanos
Is this the same guy that tried to defend rape? (Verses Muslim debate)
I have no idea, but even if it is. It doesn’t make his sentence any less wrong.
If Hitler says 2 + 2 = 4 , the fact that he killed 6 millions Jews doesn’t make that statement any less right.
The fact that every letter in that organization, represents an abomination to God.
Mav "No, i just want to be demanding! I demand you support my wicked ways!"
@Quint-ib4nf Actually it is. Just as any other sin is wicked.
@Quint-ib4nfhum, you're mixing things
"gay" is "happy"@Quint-ib4nf Where do you get your sense of "wicked" because I am in agreement with God.
Well, we are not JEWS. That was a contract between God and Jews. We are in the NEW Contract ("Covenant") under the Gospel of Grace, and I am not a Jew. Wearing Mixed Fabrics and eating Shellfish were old testament laws of diet and the fabrics ...do you even understand what punishments are? can you tell me what the punishment for those things were? I find it funny that you guys that bring-up this information never think...you just parrot.@Quint-ib4nf
i think he's a parrot, or he thinks we're Jews.@@vinnyreis3016 either way, he's confused on many things.
“and they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.”
2 Timothy 4:4
Well done Frank! I just got your book! Can’t wait to read it!
Which one?
“I don’t smoke enough to be a non smoker”?
Nice joke, but his presentation. I don’t have enough faith to be an atheist is an amazing presentation, and if you ever give the light of day to that you might understand the title at least
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Are you responding to me?
Why would anyone respond to a bigot like you Frank
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Yep.
Moist robot is still visiting the channel as that is how God's Grace works.
🙌 THAT is the best 3minutes I’ve spent, in a very LONG time 👏👏👏
Well said You summed it all up with grace and kindness Frank-- Thank You
❤
“It’s gotta be a dialogue --
NOT a monologue”
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Imagine telling someone telling you that if he / she doesn’t get what he / she wants, he / she will kill himself / herself. Who is responsible for that really?
Their own choice, perhaps influenced by their innate sin nature when without Christ, yet still their own choice, and I wish people would make the choice to not do that. Somewhere in them there is some pain so great that they can not stand to live with it. And then there is the question of how the spiritual enemy of God might latch on to that pain and exploit it for the purpose of destruction.
@@scottfw7169 "choice" or not, if god didn't want it to happen, he wouldn't have created all the factors that made it inevitable.
@@jonatand2045 Oh, so that you subscribed to Isaac Arthur (he's got cool content by the way) was not your choice, was not your doing, God made it inevitable and thereby rendered you with no power, no will, no choice to decide not to?
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My argument is agnostic to "will", "choice" and other psychological concepts. The point is that if god didn't want an event to happen, he wouldn't have created things in a way that guaranteed it happening. If you use "free will" as an excuse, then i can say that if god didn't want me to use that free wil to write this comment, he would have created me differently. Perhaps more patient and less skeptical, so my trajectory had led towards belief instead. No matter how many degrees of freedom a system has, it does exactly as its variables and rules determine.
@@jonatand2045 Therefore you are God's puppet.
Victimhood at it's best. They all become extremely emotional and can't even listen. They demand respect but lack respect towards others. They never think of accountability, and that maybe the reason they've "been mistreated" is because of their own attitude.
nah. the blood is on THEIR own hamds. they jist try wiping it off on YOU.
when a person is ill, tou'd try to coax (heal) them to better health. NOT keep feeding them poision an quack solutions.
So we should commit people who believe they have a relationship with a deity we can't show to exist... at all?
@@mattslater2603 You, "who believe they have a relationship with a deity we can't show to exist... at all"
There is plenty of evidence and all of creation testifies of God's existence. If *you* choose to reject such evidence and if *you* choose not to believe, then that is fully on you and the consequences that go along with that choice. It's foolish, but it's your choice to make regardless.
@@danielwilkinson1024 Nope. That horrible reasoning.
1. There isn't any evidence
2. Saying "creation proves god" is a viciously circular argument...
And can simply be dismissed
Try again?
@@mattslater2603 You, "1. There isn't any evidence"
Says you, but contrary to what you say the is plenty. You have archeological evidence, finding of Sodom, pool of Siloam, Noah's ark, temple mount, giant human skeleton remains, non-Jewish documents mentioning Jesus, etc.
You have prophetic evidence and fulfillment throughout scripture, many times 1k's of years later. One of the most current and prominent is the establishing of Israel as a nation again in 1948. This was prophesized 2k years ago. More to the prophecies is the fact that The Bible is made up of 66 different books/letters, with differing authors, and all of them have a consistent message.
You have biological evidence, your very DNA and biological systems that work together to maintain your physical functionality.
The fact that objective morality exists.
There are spiritual laws that The Bible mentions that can be scientifically proven. One of which is tithing.
The laws of nature and physics that scientists are discovering testifies of a Creator.
You, "2. Saying "creation proves god" is a viciously circular argument..."
In the atheistic world view it would be. Atheist and theist seem to have a different definition for God. To an atheist God is just a 'god of the gaps' magical fictional being to whimsically explain away what mankind does not know. This is *NOT* the God that Christians believe in. Our God is not bound by space, time, or matter. He exists outside of the physical/natural laws that He has set in motion.
You, "And can simply be dismissed"
Easy to do for scoffers. If you were actually objectively honest and rationale, there is enough evidence to *AT LEAST* conclude that God *could* exist. Unfortunately to an atheist, they will almost always *never even entertain the notion or possibility* that God exists, *NO MATTER THE EVIDENCE.*
How can that ever be reasonable or rationale, to no matter what, automatically reject all or any evidence????
Lunch is over, so later.
@@mattslater2603
1. cosmological argument: it is so incredibly unlikely that the universe and humans are products of chance. if you do research about it you can see just how improbable the universes creation is alone
2. moral argument: frank even gives a basic summary in this video that there is no objective moral standard if God doesn't exist. if God doesn't exist, then all that matters is human opinion, and therefore no one can be right or wrong, good or evil, because that's just what YOU believe.
3. historical evidence for Jesus living and his resurrection + prophecies from the old testament.
4. arguments from personal experience: do you think everyone is just delusional, brain-washed, and hallucinating?
It reminds me of people that claim that they don't want to be victimised, but all the ever do is act like a victim. Then surely, they chose to do so. I have been wronged myself, but I am not a victim. It's those people that don't want to hear they are wrong because that would take their victim identity away and with that their sense of purpose.
thats coz homophobics make people a victim
At 1:08, I couldn’t help but notice that this kid basically asked Frank to repent.
They acted like a child. Worked up and emotional to someone that has done nothing to them.
the irony. I pray that he repents before he cant any longer.
😂😂😂
Exactly what he is...a kid!
That’s likely to become more common as the adversary’s disciples become more bold
It’s more immoral to lie to someone and keep them as far away from a cure to their apparent ailment. They think it’s ethical to prevent treatment and keep a patient permanently in recovery.
"No. You came here looking for an apology which I will not give so you might as well leave"
And rightfully so. We should never apologize where no wrong has been done. This young man was demanding an apology from Frank for preaching the Gospel and acknowledging the reality of God's existence. We will never apologize for this, for it is life-giving truth.
Frank is legendary
He may come out of the closet. Stay tuned
@Quint-ib4nfWhen you’re not interested in dialogue, you’re not interested in growth or understanding. Nothing good comes out of being too emotional
@Quint-ib4nfjust like all perverts.
Number one fascists are the alphabet community.
Let's not forget nashville shooting
@@dimitrisbright9807I feel like you're right about that.
@@dimitrisbright9807 why do you think that person was so emotional?
He wasn’t even promoting conversion therapy. He was addressing biblical morality.
But homosexuals despise Biblical morality, and so they rename it "conversion therapy" and "torture" - to absolve themselves of responsibility. Ultimately, they will stand before God in their sins if they don't come to Christ for salvation and repentance. That is a fearsome place to be.
Agreed, we Christians know that conversion therapy is unbiblical and wrong but this person thinks this is actually conversion therapy which he is wrong.
That is absolutely true. If morality is just a matter of opinion, then it is nothing more than an interchangeable set of rules. Then there is no right and no wrong. No good and no evil. Everything is negotiable. What these people obviously don't understand is that no one is forced into Christianity. But if you want to become a Christian, there are rules that you have to follow. You don't bring your own set of rules or tinker with the others. Otherwise it's better to stay off the playing field.
People have been forced into Christianity though 😅
Thank you, Dr. Turek!
That was masterfully handled and I hope Mat realizes that truth.
📘 Matthew 7:13 and 14
Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.
“Do you want a conversation” no. There you have it.
Usually people who are different are treated badly, by a small group of people. But, when you're different and try to make everyone bow down to you, thats bad too.
This is the problem explained in actual practice.
One side can't talk about it, when the other side wants to converse.
One side just wants to insult and throw accusations!
Sad we can't have conversations
Great job, Frank! I admire your patience with him. It takes a lot of guts to be patient and gentle in that type of situation. And you stuck to biblical truth while doing it. Hard work, but great work!!
satan does help his homophobic puppets
Well the path to Heaven is a narrow one. So Mavs right about that. Man needs to heal all that brokenness and anger. Praying for this person and hope Mav opens his heart to Jesus Christ. Amen 🙏
If one side can't get a word out edge wise, then no conversation can be had and no resolution can be met.
Thanks Frank by speaking truth in love. More blessings to your ministry.
Brilliant! I love his explanations.
Frank makes a very good point, we need to learn to respect others opinions, not agree with them, but respect them enough to have a a civilized conversation with people we disagree with in order to determine the truth and find middle ground.
An LFGHREBCA__))=+IADC person calling someone a bigot? Stop the presses.
Unfortunately, this group of people are not interested in debate. When reason is brought into the conversation, Christian or otherwise, their carefully constructed house of cards crumbles. That's why they stick to their script. And "blood on your hands" is one of them. They're caught in a Narcissistic cult, and it takes a miracle to break free. Keep praying for your loved ones that have been snared by this doctrine.🙏🙏🙏
Reason is used to debate Christianity? When I went to Sunday school, they said it was all about faith.
Exactly. This "blood on your hands" BS is nothing but a bully tactic. This person wants everyone who doesn't affirm the letter soup lifestyle to feel like they're to blame for all the 12.846.289.294... LGBTQRSTUVWXYZ ppl who kill themselves so that the people who don't affirm that shut up in shame. That's what it is, a coward narcisistic bully tactic to shame opposition into silence and i wish frank called the person out on that (haven't watched the vid yet but based on the comments, i'd say he did not)
@@Captain-Cosmo They were correct! But it’s not blind faith, it’s faith based in knowledge.
@@stanleyatkins4226 I certainly am aware that the word "faith" is commonly used to express a level of confidence based upon knowledge. For example, I have "faith" that the sun will rise tomorrow because 1) I have knowledge of basic celestial mechanics which accurately predicts celestial events, and 2) I have personally witnessed more than 20,000 mornings in which the sun did rise as expected. Are you suggesting that the "faith" propagated by religion is similar? What "knowledge" do you have that supports your belief?
Sin will always be sin whether we want to acknowledge it or not. Enjoying your sin or saying "God made me this way" are coverups and only delay the inevitable truth
Thank you Frank, for being a true gentleman.
Wish I could thumbs this up twice!
Going to start using that when people ask, as they often do, do I believe homosexuality is wrong … well let me ask you first what moral standard are we using for what is right or wrong?
@@sterlingfallsproductions3930 Okay. God is the standard of real-actual morality; and, two dudes or two chicks going-at-it "sec. shoe all Lee" is wrong. There ya go; you're welcome. 😘
@@johnharrison6745 I concur.
God bless you Frank! Stay faithful, continue in the good work God has planned for you from the beginning.
Was Hitler part of his plan? Such a clever god!
@@jonatand2045 You are part of his plan, and if you want to be part of his plan, God is ready and waiting. His love is patient.
@@jonatand2045 "Oh, God doesn't exist because bad things happen" I think that this conversation ended a lot of time before. Be strong. Life is hard for weak people. Stop complaining on how bad things happen, and go change your life. God bless you!
@@damacena2005
More like god doesn't exist because things he supposedly doesn't like happened. Things he designs can only do exactly as he predicted they would. Notice you didn't answer the question.
@@herbzabel9117
Was Hitler and the genocide part of the plan or not?
So good. You have to have a moral standard. If there is no God it’s just another opinion.
A solid point.
They want the benefits of subjective morality but not the consequences of it.
Believing that the bible is the word of God is just another opinion.
@@mattslater2603 And that's just your opinion.
@@dnzswithwombats....which is just your opinion.
Right so all we have is opinion with the theist and the atheist.
There ya go.... you're learning....
Just wish he would give him a chance to answer. He was very patient and gentle when trying to answer but kept getting interrupted
"I just want you to apologize and turn around"
Sounds an awful lot like repentance...
Frank is great.
It is very difficult to speak with someone who has a "I am god" complex, for whatever reason, and only wants to vent over real or even perceived injustices done to them; but the goal is always the same, healing.
We all have experienced some type of injustice as we mature to adulthood because we live in a fallen world. If we are in a positive community with others their input often helps us get over this bump in the road of life, if not this bump czn quickly turns into a pothole or even a sinkhole.
pure wisdom right there
Frank always acts with so much patience, I would lose it on people but he keeps his cool
Frank: "I love you. I want you to be with me in Paradise forever! So repent and believe in Jesus so that you can have eternal life."
Gay guy: "Stop it! You're making people hate me!"
LGBTQ+ needs to understand whether God exists or not I'm not morally obligated to their demands. Also Frank, I'm not obligated to respect anyone who has not earned it. However, I respect God.
Christians that use contraception in their marriage have nothing to say against gay marriage.
How had God earned it?
@@scottgodlewski306 By creating evil, murder, genocide, pathetic jealousy, always angry and the only thing he loved was the smell of burning animal fat. @brettkeane which of these traits do you respect most.
@brettkeane: “However, I respect God.”
Your biblical deity created evil is a murdering warlord, genocidal, pathetically jealous, always angry and the only thing he loved was the smell of burning animal fat. @brettkeane which of these traits do you respect most?
@@scottgodlewski306 bro is kinda wrong about the respect part (seen that Frank was respectful), but, answering to your question, God created us, choosed us, loved us, was born for us, lived as a human for us, died in the Cross for us and resurrected for us to give us hope. If that doesn't earn all your love and respect, nothing more will.
frank is right
@@scottgodlewski306that's just your opinion
@@scottgodlewski306 that's also just an opinion
@@scottgodlewski306 what does it matter - It's all subjective right ?
Lol
@@scottgodlewski306 you are contradicting yourself. First you say he is not right but then you say it is your opinion but if it's just your opinion then that means it's not either wrong or right, just how you feel. The original response was saying that Frank is factually correct. Your opinion is irrelevant.
And you seemed to have a negative reaction when shadowcolorado said "what does it matter - It's all subjective right ?". You mention that it's "unfortunate" and potentially dangerous but scientists have recognized that this is in fact the case: "The universe that we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but pitiless indifference.” - Richard Dawkins
@@scottgodlewski306 @0:26 - 0:36 Frank says that without God there is no objective standard of right and wrong and that all morality is just a matter of human opinion which is where the Dawkins quote comes into play. The quote says that we find in a universe that is not designed and is just physical matter that there is no such thing as right or wrong, just pitiless indifference. So the point is that you are saying it's "unfortunate" that the OC thinks "it doesn't matter" when that is, in fact, the case.
To you, "of course it matters" but that is just your opinion and opinion that is not binding and no one else is under no obligation to accept. The view that it's "unfortunate" is not better or worse, just different.
It's the same as if you thought that chocolate ice cream is gross and that it should not be sold in stores. You can feel that way but it will continue to be sold in stores and companies don't need to listen to your protests to stop selling it.
So that's what Frank was right about.
Have you ever told someone hysterical to "calm down"?
Did it work?
No. They aren't thinking, they're feeling. And pride is an emotion that causes one to reject all other opinions as inferior.
Just ask them where their entitlement comes from.
We are made in the image of God so that's our foundation.
But to an atheist? The only things they can say is YAY or OUCH. They have no grounds to complain about anything.
Pain and suffering? I call them biological reactions.
So if it isn't happening to the biological lump that is myself, why should I care?
Nobody says you have to care.
Just follow the law.. or don't.
And pay the consequences
Simply
No silly supernatural garbage, lying... or horrible arguments required
@@mattslater2603 "Just follow the law.. or don't."
Aaand... where does the law come from? What do you base the law on?
Typical non-thinking, knee-jerk emotional comment.
@@stephenkeen6044
You'll have to forgive slatsy, he is a highly charged emotional, snowflake-ish type of guy. Today just looks like he's having a pretty bad day.
Emotional appeals, strawmanning, appeals to the popular, anecdotes, these are the hodgepodge of the atheist mindset. This is why I can't be an atheist, ever.
Really? Sounds exactly like Christian apologetics.
At least you wouldn't have to believe in silly supernatural nonsense... based on garbage
@@mattslater2603who hurt you?
@@mewtwo3046 Huh.... I'm fine.
Is that what drives you? Being hurt?
@@mattslater2603 thank you for proving my point! God bless!
@@mattslater2603 I see you commenting on everyone’s post with such anger and resentment. You can try and deflect… but you are most definitely hurting. I was there before.
I feel absolutely terrible for that person. It is clear they have been hurt and that they still keep the wound open and festering. It is a shame that they have used that pain to lash out at the world, but i cannot feel anything but pity and love for this person. I hope they find the help and healing they need to come to Jesus.
Seeing this breaks my heart.
Your Jesus is a cause of all his misery. Take your fake God and get out of the country.
That statement always gets me, ...."the blood is on your hands". Why is there blood on someone else's hands when you choose your own path, your own lifestyle, your pronouns?
Presumably you think the Jewish people who's ancestors rejected jesus as the Messiah _"chose their own path"_ that made it acceptable for the German population ( 93% self identified CHRISTIAN ) to slaughter them 🤢🤮🤮🤮
Bigot - (noun) - One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ.
This guy sure seemed partial to the LGBTQ community and didn’t seem very tolerant of Frank’s religion. Notice it was Frank who was calling for respecting others while this guy was the one interrupting and calling names.
It’s usually the bigot who goes around calling other people bigots. 🤦🏻♂️
Why don't you think they tolerate frank?
@@dansaber5853 Well I can see from the many comments you’ve posted yourself, that you don’t tolerate Frank. You seem to be spending an awful lot of time criticizing him in the comments. Why don’t you share with everyone what drives such behavior?
@@scottsponaas I'm here to talk to closeted people. The Bible is my cultural heritage. It's not an excuse to be in the closet
@@dansaber5853 you didn’t actually answer the question. Why are you intolerant of Frank?
Also, it makes zero sense that you would come to a Christian channel to talk to “closeted people.” Furthermore, if you’ve read the Bible, then you know that it condemns all sex outside the context of a marriage between a man and a woman.
So when you say that the Bible is not an excuse to be in the closet, what you should really be saying is that those people who are dealing with same sex attraction need to know that they are loved and they need to be born again to overcome that unnatural attraction. The unloving thing to do would be to affirm the behavior that the Bible forbids and in doing so, comfort those people into eternal damnation.
@@scottsponaas nothing loving about trying to trick people into your silly cult of supernatural nonsense.
You people are clowns.
I wish Mav and others like him could see that Frank is actually the one that cares the most, and the ones that Mav thinks care the most, actually care the least. Lies are literally deadly, and liars are evil. Only telling the truth is loving, but it must be done in love.
I want Frank’s level of patience for Christmas 🎄
It's easy to be patient when you're getting paid to be there... Frank isn't anything special
@@logicalatheist1065I don’t think him getting paid has to with his level of patience as much as you think it does.. or even at all for that matter.
@@Claybraham91 absolutely it does, that's his job... He has no skills otherwise.
@@logicalatheist1065 you do know that a job and something you’re genuinely passionate about can coincide right? And I was taking you seriously before the “no skill” part lol.
@@Claybraham91 to get on stage and lie, what a job... I'm sure it's just for the money, afterall religion is a great way to make money, lots of sheeple that will throw their money away
As I wrote in a College term paper I wrote in the '70's. "Man has no rights, merely privileges, which can be taken and given at will." Only when God is our compass will we do the right thing.
Well my "compass" tells me that *"Buy your slaves from the heathen nations that surround you"* Is not nor ever was a "moral" instruction and certainly not a moral reference standard that anyone should adhere or aspire to. Do you agree *YES or NO* ?? 🤔
I used to identify as gay up until a few months ago. I was married to a man too. But Christ showed me my need for Him when I was diagnosed with leukemia in July. I left my partner and began my walk with God. Praise God. He does save sinners. Pray for your LGBT friends and family. God does save.
You wasn't never married.
@@NoN0-eb8lj assuming you mean I wasn’t married, you are right. In the eyes of God I wasn’t. Because you used a double negative “wasn’t never” which means the opposite of what you think. Lol.
But that’s really all you have to say towards my comment? Instead of praising God you correct me? Are you really a Christian?
So your idol, Christ, couldn’t accept you as you were?
@@keibro13and you clearly don't understand the concepts of sin.
@@yasiem6245 you don’t understand the concept of acceptance, respect and tolerance.
People ONLY get angry with the God of the Bible. Nobody is angry at other gods. This is because every single person deep inside knows there is only one God.
Who _exactly_ is getting angry with this "God of the Bible"?
Your assertion is blatantly FALSE. I am a person who hasn't any knowledge that this 'God' is a reality. In fact, I haven't any good reason to believe, much less know, ANY god to be a reality.
Amen
People get angry with followers. But cope and seethe
Sounds like you are angry.. @@Theo_Skeptomai
"Do you wanna have a conversation or..."
"No"
A monologue is nothing but a political speech. You can't discover truth if you're the only one talking.