Do You Think Homosexuality Is Wrong?
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- A student at the University of Michigan asks Frank "Do You Think Homosexuality Is Wrong?" & "Is Homosexuality in the same category of bestiality and rape?"
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"Sex is like a fire, in the fireplace it warms you, anywhere else and it burns your house down." Well said and True.
So we should only be having sex in the fireplace?
Yeah so true, think of all the sex scandals and the people who have been burned. Adultery just causes a painful mess, which can burn a family unit to the ground.
@@farmercraig6080 Depends on how the relationship is set up some people have open relationships in which they are quite happy to let their partners have sex with other people and it works for them (Not my thing personally) and they can have very happy relationships whereas you can have people who have closed relationships and are loyal to each other and end up being completely miserable, you have to find what works for you and your partner.
@@dja-bomb6397 😂😂 great comment but yes, that is actually exactly true! Of course, in this case the "fire place" is the sanctity of a marriage.
@April Hudson
"Bottom line, is that there is only truth or lie. Sex or ANYTHING outside of God’s intention is a lie and will lead to destruction."
Well, apparently there is also unsubstantiated assertions as well going by what you said in the second line as well.
They always try to trap him up , and he eloquently handles it
Or, they ask legitimate questions and answers with deferential answers. He defers to the Bible, because he interprets the question to be about what the Bible says. And because of time, it seems that is all that the person is asking. But really it's a question of whether or not it IS right, not whether the Bible says it's right. And that's harder to answer because that's a question of whether you want to accept the Bible as a consistent source of truth, which it is not.
@@SwordTune If you were a Christian like Dr. Turek then you would have to accept the Bible as divinely inspired scripture and the inerrant word of God. So why would you bother asking a Christian apologist whether he agrees with the bible or not?
Dr. Turek has articulated his opinion again and again that there is no moral authority besides God and that morality can't exist without God, otherwise "morality" would be purely subjective opinion on what a person or group of persons prefer. Meaning that it can not be "right" or "wrong," because it is merely a matter of subjective opinion.
So if a man believes there can be no moral authority besides God and that God's divinely inspired and inerrant scripture states something to be the case, from that line of reasoning it IS the case.
"it's a question of whether or not it IS right, not whether the Bible says it's right."
These therefore, are the same, whether or not it IS right and whether or not the Bible says it IS right are one and the same from a Christian perspective.
@@TristanHayes He still does not explore the discrepancies within the Bible. His answers are simple ones which defer to one version of the textual source rather than critically analyzing it and his own interpretation.
@@SwordTune Again, one can not be a Christian and believe the Bible is in error so your starting premise is requiring him to refute the beliefs he is defending. All "discrepancies" as far as I'm aware can be explained away rather easily frankly or explained by correct textual understanding or understanding of the original Hebrew / Greek texts.
@Mr. Rogers All "discrepancies" as far as I'm aware can be explained away rather easily frankly or explained by correct textual understanding or understanding of the original Hebrew / Greek texts.
And no, the standard of morality does not change from the old testament to the new testament.
The burden of proof falls on you to prove otherwise in both of these cases. Making such statements as if they are facts without any evidence to back them up is asinine. I'm not going to try to find the same exact "100 distinct factual discrepancies" list you found. Provide examples or citations.
As a happily married hetro male, I too must guard against any "opposite sex" attractions. Been married for 24 beautiful years to the same woman and loving it. God was invited to our wedding and included to our marriage. No magic formula, He brought us together and we honor Him with our union. Praise Jesus
Tala Habern bruh your just a troll 😭
Tala Habern 🤦🏼♂️Jesus will save your soul I believe he can change anyone
Are you sexually attracted to your wife? You dont have to answer me, thats something to answer yourself. Did you marry your wife through attraction or just because you wanted to get married to convince yourself you are purely heterosexual? Depending on that answer, your marriage will either be successful or an utter catastrophe. I hope for your sake it's the former.
I would be very careful inviting God to my wedding You remember what he did to Joseph with Mary??
Why am I thinking that you do a lot of prayer NOT to think about a penis?
"We all have attractions we ought not act on." Well said.
Jesus said if you look at a woman with lust, you've committed adultery with her in your heart.
亗ApØLoGïSt FøR GØD亗 He said if a married man looks at a woman with lust, he commits adultery. In order to commit adultery, you have to be married. Lust isn’t just attraction, but it is a deep longing to have another person.
@@badapjiedkylla1899 Jesus was fanatic. This extreme standards make thinks worse, not better.
@@johnmakovec5698 But He's way better than you
@@badapjiedkylla1899 Sure. Captain America is also better than me.
As controversial as this matter is, this is still one of the most honest yet respectful answers I've heard in response to it.
Moviefan2k4 you joking?
THthefirst What's wrong with beastiality
Again I will tell you. If I am in love with another guy and we practice sex and only good feelings occur, why this is sin? Because your Bible says so? So if there was no Bible or God there wouldn't be justice or concepts or right or wrong. No it isn't, and the fact is that homosexuality has always existed. And I remind you that many heterosexual people practice oral, anal sex, orgies and so on. The fact is the world is becoming more sexualixed than ever, and also in the country "under" God.
Do you know that here in Europe many people are agnostics or atheist or just don't care a damn about your religion and their societies are modern and fair and criminality is very low (and so on!). Maybe because we don't need prayers and base our morality in other standards. We think by ourselves, i don't need an owner of my mind. I create my reality every day.
You have a real problem in the States, when we look at you, we, believe it or not, think "these americans are crazy". Guns, wars, criminality, ignorance, aggressive materialism, stupid icons (superbowl!??), racism, terrible health care... Yes we also have part of this stupid behaviors but we're not giving lessons day and night to other nations.
It seems you haven't learnt anything from your wise scriptures. Or maybe that is the result of following them. Go to Alabama or Oklahoma and tell me why they're not the best examples for humankind when it's full of religious people.
Me, an atheist would be considered a non-citizen (non-patriot too) by the former President, Bush. That's racists, stupid and inmoral. Crazy. Goodness is not a question of belief, is a question of who you are, and how you behave. Period.
And homosexuality is an sexual orientation, and if there is a God, then he should accept it because there are hundred of millions of them who haven't decided to be so (why he created the world this way??). Because sexual orientation is not something you can easily change. You're blaming, insulting all of them just because you have a different concept of sin. And in some countries they're prosecuted and killed, and be sure it's because a religious thinking. Why do you think of that? Atrocious.
I didn't want to assume you behave the same as many other christians who hate homosexuals. If you understood that, I apologize. But I have heard and read many hateful words against homosexuals one million times and that's horrible.
By the way, here there are homosexuals, they don't have problems with their sexuality, their friends accept them, I accept them, everybody is happy and no harm is produced, so please don't come here and try to i ntroduce your morality to convert everybody in sinners.
We are far from accepting you beliefs. It's your opinion. I don't care about your God, I don't believe in it so for me that's not an valid argument, in fact is a zero-argument.
I know about fine-tuned universe and about the complexity of DNA but even those arguments being solid and acceptable (we can discuss that for long) that doesn't mean that they point to a judeo-christian God. Remember that a good percentage of scientists are atheists, and those who believe don't necessarily follow religions tenets. I'm 100% atheist about religion gods but I open a door for an existence of a creator of the universe, I declare myself ignoran to answer that question. At least, I'm humble.
why in the world should we care about what a collection of books written by superstitious people say in the first place?
All sins may not be the same but what is true is that the wages of sin is death (spiritual, physical and therefore eternal). And that is terrifying.
Pierre Ouattara sin is still sin sin separates us from God, sin doesn't separate God from us,it separates us from God.
Dennis Haines you go ahead and believe that, you are not alone in your unbelief
@Eskil Hansson 😂😂😂😂😂😂
If you believe that there is God then youndont get to debate it , if you dont believe in god why bother discussing things you dont believe it will ever happen
Yes it is!
Just discovered this man. He is awesome. Can’t bait him. Knows his Bible well and is incredibly articulate. And humble.
Amen to that
Agreed
Can you quote me the verse of the Bible that says homosexuality is wrong?
@@goranmilic442 Leviticus 18-20
Romans 1:26-27
@@firecrumby2387 Well, Leviticus also says eating shellfish is wrong. Also, Leviticus doesn't just say homosexuality is wrong, it says homosexuals should be killed.
"Have compassion for people who are in this situation"
people always seem to miss out on that bit
I have compassion for them because they constantly face discrimination for no good reason
I do care for them, and I want them to know the truth
There's a big difference between compassion/support and celebrating it...
We should have compassion for everyone. Life is difficult for all. Everyone struggles with sin. I will never understand why so many Christians single out homosexuality as something particularly icky. The Bible mentions homosexuality like 7 times, but talks about divorce over 40. I think you guys may have your priorities mixed up...
I agree with this, but I would add something. it's not just an act of homosexuality that is a sin; lust can be a sin without the act.
+optimusnaruto
I agree
Lust is an involuntary, genetic response.
You don't choose to have wet dreams, you just have them. If that is a sin then god is unimaginably cruel.
Chris Holifield True... Maybe he just forgot about that... But that's a great observation on your part...
Ludvig Burman lust is not involuntary... You consciously decide to look at an attractive woman or man and then consider what you would do with that person sexually... On the other hand, you could look away until that thought subsides... Because I'm pretty sure you are an attractive person and your parents are probably attractive people also... If you have any siblings...I think it's safe to say that they are attractive as well...
I can be almost 99% sure that the thought of sex with your parents or siblings is utterly and totally disgusting and gut-wrenchingly so...
I say 99% because you could be involved in incest... However, if you are not (and I'm pretty sure you are not) then, it's 100%...
Please don't make excuses for bad behavior... The only things we do that are involuntary are breathing, blinking and heart beating and blood flow...
I could be wrong on this last point, but I would go so far as to assert that we feel voluntarily (meaning stimuli interacting with our skin) because one can be placed in a sensory deprivation tank and then we would no
t "feel" sensations. But again, there are potentially 10,000 holes in that logic...
@OpNa Hello there, idk if you'll get this I know its 2 years later. I'm curious about what you meant by demons put thoughts in our minds and you must rebuke them and take them captive in christ. Could you elaborate on that if you dont mind?
I believe he sewed seeds to someone in that room-thank you Jesus.
I'll bet he's sewn a few seeds in some other rooms as well
Tony Littman LOL that’s a little uncalled for
@@j.prt.979 I think He meant in other autitouriums meetings .
@@JoseHerrera-vs8nv I don’t think so lol.
What kind of thread did he use to sew the seeds?
Man, his five second argument about why rape is worse than assault is absolutely the most watertight case I’ve ever heard for sex intrinsically having more meaning than just a casual physical act. I’ll definitely be using that all the time.
I didn't understand it fully. I mean, I know what he is saying and it makes sense, but I'm more afraid of being raped than beat up because it's inside of me rather than outside of me, and it's excruciating. But I still understand what he means.
Dude legit tried to catch him out: "so youre saying its as bad as bestiality and rape?". People don't care about debate, kid just wanted to make the speaker look bad.
@Mr. RogersThat's a fair point but my point still stands, the kid didn't ask the good question for any sense of understanding, he was trying to get something to slander the speaker.
And He failed!
@@jayb2947 He's not ignoring other sins. He's speaking on a specific subject! He didn't mentioned The 10 Commandments either! There's hundreds of possible sins. Do you expect him to name them all?
@@jayb2947 Got it! Sorry!
@Az Kelleh it's not fact that there is a god who doesn't like homosexuality. Frank refused to state his own views and used the bible as a shield. "Don't blame me, this book makes me do it!"
Wow! You handled that like a pro. That was the perfect example of compassion, respect, and a firm stance.
And escaping the question.
I thought he answered, he said that, is what the bible said, right I thought he said that.
+Stefkostov he answered it you just didn't like the answer so you deny the answer. typical skeptics who can't handle the truth. america is filled with people who can't handle the truth.
+Stefkostov he answered it you just didn't like the answer so you deny the answer. typical skeptics who can't handle the truth. america is filled with people who can't handle the truth.
MrXinsizionx Frank will always submit to God,that's why he speaks truth.
I find myself applauding very hard at almost everything this man says. POWERFUL!
I find myself wanting to barf after this man speaks
@@chrisbrooks4032 Because you are a reprobate and are disgusted with morality but prefer perversion.
I concur
even though he was wrong?
@@TexasHoosier3118
While Chris' words were strong, you have to realize that Frank Turek is engendering homophobia which is very reprehensible given that he's basing his view on an incorrect and frankly unresearched interpretation of the Bible. Homosexuality is perfectly natural and harms no one. Considering the word homosexuality was added in the Bible in 1946, you Christians have no right to claim what "god" says about what we as humans can or can't do.
I admire Frank, he knows how to provide information without insulting anyone.
He's insulting homosexuals who choose to love rather than life their entire lives in a closet by telling them they're "sinning".
I mean seriously, could someone explain to me how love can be a bad thing simply because it's between 2 people who have the same sex? It doesn't hurt anyone. It makes people happy. How could that be a bad thing?
@@thebelen2359 if that's an insult according to you, I don't know what you will think if you hear...........
@@thebelen2359 pls watch the video
@@thebelen2359
A pedophile could argue the same thing, especially if they've groomed the child to be ok with it. "How could love be a bad thing. No one else is getting hurt. Love is love right"... except not all love is good.
@@parker6936
No that's not true, we all know that a child can't consent to sex the way two full grown adults can, so you can't compare the two.
Does not matter what we think, it is what's in Gods word.
@@nickgagnon8478 lives that god gave us. He made us citizens of his kingdom and in exchange we follow his laws or get deported (damned). Christ thankfully came and gave us a way to ensure we remain in his kingdom, but we still should follow his laws for mercy and patience have an end.
@Mavors why do you think?
@Mavors is there something wrong with that?
So dangerous to stop thinking and start blindly accepting.
@@sockmonkey5255 but over over think is not taking us anywhere, atheist don't know how univers began, they don't know who humans came in to being. Sometimes we need faith of a child to understand.
Why am I only finding this after almost 5 years?
I should count yourself lucky
Or better yet, count yourself blessed that you finally did
You’re not alone, I just found it
Nooooope. Just found it
Truth given with no fear, but some will still call him a homophobe.Truth given with no hate, but some will still call him a hater.Truth given with no prejudice, but some will still call him a bigot.Truth given with no malice, but some will still call him intolerant.
This is the sad world we live in today.
Bill Bushey that is so true. I’m glad you notice it too.
So true. The world hates truth because it gets in the way of their desires
@@maow9240
Truth of what? Bible?
@@almightybunny3320 just truth. The bible is true yeah but just truth in general. People dont like to look inside themselves and see themselves for what they are
@@maow9240
Well how we know it's truth? Is book writen almost 2000 years ago! So we should take our ways of living there? Nope be who you are! Except your selfs as you are and live happy life! Dont let anyone or anything to dictate who you are long as you are happy and live full life it's most important!!!
I’ve been dealing with a lot of bad sexual urges and the way he put there at the end hit me like a ton of bricks. So true
Do they involve consenting adults? If so, what make them bad?
Fire analogy
@@ktan6738 that only works if they believe in a dumb book
If you're talking about homosexuality, please don't spend your entire life in a closet. I mean, at the end of the day it's your choice and you're allowed to do whatever you want but hear me out;
If God really is all loving, wouldn't they want you to be happy? Wouldn't they want you to live your life to the fullest? Especially when you doing that isn't hurting anyone.
@@ktan6738 I don't understand how there being a sexual conexion, spiritual or not, between 2 people, regardless of their biological sex, can be a bad thing when it's not hurting anyone.
Very well said. An honest, caring and uncompromising answer. Thank you.
Dr Turek is just so amazing, caring, patient, tender-hearted, SINCERE and anointed that it's as though God created Dr Turek from a piece of God's very own heart!
Can you quote me the verse of the Bible that says homosexuality is wrong?
@@goranmilic442 read romans ch 1 it lists all types of sin we deal.with today. Read for for yourself, and pray for understanding
Wow, So genuine, so much in one response. Thanks
"homosexual behavior is a sin not homosexual feelings"
"But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart."
Matthew 5:28 NIV
Love isn’t lust.
There is a big difference between being tempted (Like Jesus himself was for 40 days in the desert) and contemplating or fantasizing about sinning. When the thoughts of lust enter your mind do you immediately cast them out or do you entertain them? If simply being tempted is sinning then Jesus is guilty of sin, but Jesus was sinless therefor being tempted is not sinning.
+Saved by Grace
Have you ever found a woman attractive? I know I have, plenty of them. There is nothing wrong with finding someone attractive. Otherwise finding someone to marry would be pretty hard because usually you want each party to find the other attractive before they are married. Likewise, even if it's 2 members of the same sex finding each other attractive it's not a sin. That FEELING of finding someone attractive is not a sin, no matter the gender of the 2 parties.
Lust is something different. It is thinking of/holding on to the feeling of wanting to sleep with a person. Just as finding someone attractive and its relation to sin does not depend on the 2 genders involved, likewise lust and its sinfulness does not depend on the genders involved. A man lusting after a woman is a sin, and a man lusting after a man is a sin. Regardless of the genders, it is a sin because it is lust.
Wow I just commented that observation. I see you caught that too. Yea he kind of slipped up there.
The757packerfan you’re contradicting yourself. You’re allowing people to have attractions of the same sex. Attraction is a form of lust. When you’re attracted is because you’re being gravitated to the immoral thought.
The good thing about these videos is that the people asking the questions and the person answering their questions, both let the other speak and both show respect to the other even if the answers are not what they want to hear or believe. It’s a civilized Discussion of well behaved adults. So many times the intolerant parties are down right nasty and hateful and nothing is accomplished. I’m tired of groups getting shouted down and shut down when they don’t like what they are hearing. 👍✝️
Can you quote me the verse of the Bible that says homosexuality is wrong?
@@goranmilic442if you really want to know then look yourself. I was like you. I supported all communities. Even Trans. When I gained my faith I learned how wrong it was and how God didn't intend for that
@@goranmilic442Leviticus 18:22
@@rainegoldberg9376 Doesn't Leviticus also say we can't have tattoos, eat shellfish and wear clothes from two kind of materials?
@@goranmilic442I would read Roman's, it is addressed in there. Or when Jesus talks on sexuality He affirms that it is meant for marriage between a man and a woman, and thus everything outside of that is condemned. But anyone.who outs their faith in Jesus is forgiven for He has paid the price and overcame.
If you are trying to do a gotcha, because the word homosexual didn't exist then? Note that that the temptation of homosexuality isn't the sin, but the action to indulge is. You are more than your desires.
If society wasn't so degenerate and dumbed-down, they would clearly see how underrated you are with respect to Christian apologetics.
2 Corinthians 10:5. Keep up the good work!
YoBravaFrumAnuvaMuva all opinion.... Theists haven't provided arguments that hold up in debate.
Greg Bahnsen vs Gordon Stein
YoBravaFrumAnuvaMuva a very blanket and confident statement to make...
always funny when the least educated elements of society speak on how stupid it would have become... I guess what you see depends on where you are
Kyle Rusk you sure about that or is it the methodology being used conveniently allows the atheist to disregard valid evidence and valid scientific hypotheses that indeed give credence to the existence of GOD no evidence or argument would ever be enough because the atheist will only allow information that supports his or her flawed worldview clearly self serving and clearly biased and also hypocritical. The very thing atheists accuse theists of is what they themselves are most guilty of presuming there belief is true and all others that disagree are wrong.
Dr. Frank unique way of preaching the Gospel through answering really thought provoking questions is admirable!
Confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus. Believe in your heart that God has raised him from the dead and you will be saved!
(Romans 10:9)
Christ makes life INCREDIBLE!!!
Yes Christ is good
"Let them all die so, all who do such things.
But my heart breaks for Odysseus,
That seasoned veteran cursed by fate so long-
Far from his loved ones still, he suffers torments." Homer, The Odyssey
@Edmund Spenser yes, that’s why we must confess AND believe. The following verse in Romans 10 says, “For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness...”
@@poliincredible770 “For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness...”
If you can make sense of that garbled quote, then well done
@Tony Littman the Common English Bible clears things up. “Trusting with the heart leads to righteousness...”
In other words when we trust God he helps us to live a righteous life.
He kind of messed up at the start of the rebuttal. He said having feelings of homosexuality is not wrong but the act of it. If you feel a sin is because you’re thinking it. For example Cain Hid told him don’t feel angry for sin is at the door. You’re supposed to rebuke the feeling ASAP. If you’re having trouble with the temptation than is because you are letting it in. Which is a metaphor to you’re considering it. Put thought in to it. That alone is a sin.
Amen!!!!!!!!!
Believing in a perfect world is a sin.
Actually, was thinking something nearly the same. In the example from Jesus, paraphrasing, he that looks at a woman lustfully commits adultery in his heart. Your thoughts are a part of your actions and will condemn you just the same it appears. But I'm open to correction.
@@reubzdubz attraction in a sexual way other than your spouse is no different from lust.
Being tempted is not a sin. That's all he was trying to say. We are all tempted in many different ways. It's our choice to act out on those temptations, which is when it becomes sin.
Very great answer. Brief and concise. To God be the Glory.
😳 Just opened my world and blew it up. Tysm (in a good way) sex isn't just physical..
That was great. Great way to explain to people the truth. Without pointing fingers making them feel attacked.
What truth?
If we have "charity" in our hearts then we do our best to keep people from committing "suicide" .. either physical OR spiritual .. and 'sin' is spiritual suicide ..
Seems like the guy was waiting for an answer that He approved of.
well some need homophobia to be ok, its not
@@pastorbri who is some?
@@nalietmiranda7450 homophobics are some.
@@pastorbri I guess you don’t approve of Frank Turek answer either. Oh well
@@nalietmiranda7450 I only like Gods word. And God hates homophobia
His response was pleasantly surprising. He was graceful and courteous. And I enjoyed his explanation of why governments are involved in marriage.
The Bible can't be changed just to suit your lifestyle. It says what it says.
The fire analogy is awesome!
Wasn't it..! That was so cool. Can't wait to use it!
It's apples to oranges. Meaningless analogy. Homosexuality isn't harmful to anyone, ergo it's moral. Enid of story
@@Nimish204 it is harmful in that in the end, two people, as well as many others being led astray by their relationship, suffer from a separation with God. Being separated from the source of all good and light is the worst thing that can happen to someone.
Also, how you arrived at your conclusion is flawed. You're basically saying "X doesn't hurt anyone therefore X is moral" That's untrue for so many things. Also we do NOT set our own moral standards, else it'll just be your opinion vs mine. God sets the moral standards and He said it is immoral.
Have a good day/ night
@@thisisjudith So basically your argument is "because god said so"
Frank speaks so well. And the crowd of young people seemed very mature and civil....good stuff!
Sorry but the fact is you americans are so far behind in religion that its embarrasing, your country was founded 242 years ago, sweden were im from has been a Christian country for 1200 years, you can not pick and choose as you like from the old testament, everything or nothing.
@@mikaelsamuelsson6533 in what regards are u referring to?
@@dhenderson319 in any.
@@mikaelsamuelsson6533 can't u be more specific
There are many things that are changed today
I don't know how devout u are to the old testament
If u want me to be more specific
There is stoning of gay people if we get gruesome
More lighter things are tatoos makeup and women wearing skirts
More strict rules are keeping the sabbath
Many Christians have stayed for some or the other
What are ur stances on these??
@@dhenderson319 im not devote, in The old testament it says clerley that you can own slaves, that you are not alowd to work at the Sabbath and so on, you can not pick and choose what ever feels right for you, everything or nothing.
Im not a beliver.
Even if you think it's a sin, the Point is....what other people do is none of your business. It is between them and God.
And if you treat gay people any different than anyone else or think of them differently than you're a hypocrite in your faith.
@@kimbanton4398 not cool dude.
Respecting others is a golden rule but that doesn't mean you let them do anything as they please. Gay people deserves all the rights to live with dignity and contribute. But I believe our law should also respect the basic rules of nature and we are not suppose to give any different meaning to its imperfections . Being gay is one of natures strange behaviour that IMO could be addressed with medical science through research and I think some of those self claimed gay people are just confused individuals. I have gay friends and family which are happily married with their opposite sex and they are raising their kids like any straight parents do.
@@richierich8823 Point is, many places and people don't let them live their life without being harassed or discriminated against. . Regardless of your individual opinion they exist. Science proves the behavior exists in nature and that nature is not perfect. It doesn't create in accordance of what man has imagined or defined as being the "perfect men" or "'perfect women."
To lust after another women is adultery in the heart so therefore lusting after a same sex person is also adultery of the heart. Sometimes you can't control that knee jerk reaction but we need to rebuke our immoral thoughts as well as actions.
there is a big difference between being tempted (like Jesus himself was for 40 days in the desert) and contemplating or fantasizing about sinning,when the thoughts of lust enter your mind do immediately cast them out or do you entertain them? If simply being tempted is sinning then jesus is guilty of sin but Jesus was sinless therefore being tempted is not a sin.
homosexual attractions and feelings is temptation not a sin so homosexual attractions and feelings is not a sin but If that spontaneous, fleeting moment is allowed to turn into something more the passing temptation becomes a lustful intention then it has become a sin
Please do not sugar coat truth - 1 Corinthians 6:18-19 Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body.
19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
It's a respectful answer what he did and didn't sugarcoated anything. You don't have to be hostile against homosexuality because, as he mentioned, they have those attractions for whatever reason while you had, have and will have other sinful attractions throughout your whole life. Many Christians act so hostile against it while they probably struggle with other sins themselves.
"It will be your house down" That's sugarcoating it?
@@rjsevilla14 What Jake Ham said has nothing to do with homosexuality, he is talking about the fact that the speaker classified the sin of sex outside marriage so low
@@blankx6283 I'm sorry, I don't follow what you are trying to state. As far as I'm concerned, he addressed all immoral sexual attractions, homosexuality included.
@@rjsevilla14 What I mean is that Jake Ham does not like that the speaker rated the sin of fornication so low. He was not specifically targeting homosexuality.
That was powerful. God bless you Frank.
I always thought that if something can be brought to a simple principle or to the root of it, it can be wielded naturally without doubts. At the end of the day the phrase "We all have attractions we ought not act on" applies for a lot of things like anger, hatred, sadness, despair or even addictions.
Kudos to Frank for simplifying this matter as I think Jesus himself would do amongst his disciples.
Frank said we have attractions we ought not act on, but he never explained why is homosexuality an attraction we ought not act on.
@@goranmilic442Leviticus and Romans. He's covered this topic before I believe.
@@itsLantik Leviticus says we shouldn't eat shellfish or wear clothes from two materials. It also says we should kill homosexuals. Leviticus still applies?
@@goranmilic442 Yes, I would go into the differences between certain laws and general sexual immorality but I have a feeling you don't care.
@@itsLantik Please answer my questions directly. Does Leviticus still applies? Yes or no? Can we eat shellfish? Yes or no? Should we kill homosexuals? Yes or no? Also, please stop liking your own comments?
Jesus himself says” if you lust in your heart or hate in your heart...” there’s no difference there in actions
This theology is incorrect . I agree with you .
there is a big difference between being tempted (like Jesus himself was for 40 days in the desert) and contemplating or fantasizing about sinning,when the thoughts of lust enter your mind do immediately cast them out or do you entertain them? If simply being tempted is sinning then jesus is guilty of sin but Jesus was sinless therefore being tempted is not a sin.
@@sparky3006 no it isn't you have to interpret correctly not to come to conclusions right now in a irrational and decisive way.
May God bless your work
Absolutely brilliant
This man is on point. He’s not perfect, as we all are. He’s said a few things that were flawed. But we are all children under grace.
Articulate, well-thought-out, clearly and simply explained.
I have a question. My friend, who is a Christian, said that he is not convinced of the interpretation that acting on homosexual feelings is wrong because he doesn't see that type of relationship causing any downsides. He's not saying that it's okay, but he is saying that he doesn't know how to interpret it because he doesn't see any downsides of practicing that.
Without God wrong or right does not exist.. only opinions will exist.
As a Christian God has said any sex outside a marriage of man and woman is wrong.
Thank you for wording this biblically, lovingly, and mostly truthfully :)
I’m gay myself and I always prayed and wished that I could be straight and live a normal life, but I can’t be with a woman I am not attracted to them in the slightest. The emotions I have for guys is so strong and real to me and with girls I just see them as companions. I get frustrated sometimes thinking about how unfair it is that I’m expected to live a lonely celibate life in order to be a good Christian and it makes me question the religion sometimes.
Life’s unfair and struggles are just around the corner. In the end we all sin, we are not Jesus. Still, how we handle through these struggles.. God knows. He sees, He understands. Don’t despair.
If you believe in Jesus Galatians 2:21 you are already eternally saved. There is nothing that can separate us from the Love of God. There is no condemnation for those in Christ Jesus. believers have been justified from ALL things from the Law of Moses Acts 13:39 etc
God when he comes again at the day of the Lord will cleanse us from all unrighteousness, he takes away our filthy rags and makes them as white as snow.
Trust in the Lord, God loves you as you are.
@@XScorpionX321 literally shut up and leave. cry somewhere else and don't shame people for who they are
you are disgusting, just as many people here.
@@lmaolini Cry. My answer was in general, for I don’t view homosexuality as wrong. Seems you struggle with demons yourself, I wish you all the best.
@@XScorpionX321 this gotta be a joke😩💀
Brilliant. I'm using that!
This is one of the most amazing debates on this topic,this guy is mind blowing
Lust requires no action, yet, Jesus said it was adultery.
note he only mentions heto lust. IM sure all lust is wrong but it should be noted he never mentions gay lust as if he knew hetero's were worse for this.
everyone has intrusive thoughts, theres a huge difference between lustful thoughts and temtpations, whenever your'e tempted to do something wrong you aren't automatically sinning even, Jesus was temtped by satan, Only God knows when your mind is truly delving into something lustful and letting it in, its not the atraction thats wrong, its the sexual desire and also the act, theres a difference between attraction and lust
@@LuisAngel-mu4zv so if its love they act on its ok then and not a sin. GREAT!
Yes you think of it in your mind and look with your eyes, it counts.
@@mirinboy1745 thats most heterosexuals stuffed then.
Ladies and Gentlemen, I don’t think homosexuality is a sin
What you think is irrelevant compared to what the Bible says
@@rickydevmj THe Bible is irrelevant. That is just fact.
@@mr.centrist5789 so is your comment, but you don't see me talking about it
@@uselesshumanbeing6962
You just did it
Wow, such powerful words of wisdom!..so true it will burn your house done!! Love each other be kind to each other and be blessed!
Graeme L
Love and lust are like fire and water though. Too much love leads to an obsession and an obsession leads to killing anyone just for love in return.
This answer is crystal clear and sound. We should memorize it and cite it whenever the issue is brought up.
@Nick Jones your morals are based on feelings, are morals are very clear even when we don’t like them. You can’t condemn us when you would likely murder because you thought it was okay. Please just come to Christ or at least don’t spout falsehoods about him.
I'm an atheist and I thought Mr. Turek did an extraordinary job answering that question.
last first COOL! You’re a fair minded atheist.
Since you don't believe in a creator whatever consumes most of or all your time: let that be your God
Now repent and accept JESUS in your life
@@tonybarron6377 that is not how you approach an atheist to convert him to the Lord.
Yes. A open-minded athiest. What a rare bread nowadays.
God's wisdom in action
and God hates homophobia
@@pastorbri true
@@philosophia8159 we must pray for the lost homophobic souls.
@@pastorbri yeah, we shouldn't hate homosexuals
@@philosophia8159 which means we should allow them all the rights we have.
Thanks for the video. I had a teen ask me about this to say, and I am sad to say my answer wasn't the most correct.
“ lest ye commit one of these sins, you are guilty of them all.”
Great answer.
So did he just say, it's not a choice? I really like how he handled this, and his answer.
I agree Turek's answer was spot on. He separates attraction which is not a choice from action which is always a choice. The one thing that I hoped he could have touched on if there were more time allowed is how even lust (unfettered desire) is not the same as attraction. Say for example I am attracted to wealth. That attraction in and of itself is not a sin, we know, because there are plenty of wealthy people in the Bible whom God blessed with abundance. But if I start to crave wealth to the point where I will sin in my heart (envy/coveting) or sin with my hand (stealing), then that attraction has gone too far.
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There's a sharp distinction between natural attraction that produces righteous desires and evil desires that over the long-run lead to evil acts. This is why Jesus says that if a man looks at a woman with lust, he has committed adultery in his heart. Lust is the sin of adultery in the mind; fornication by or with a married person is the sin of adultery in the body. One sin (adultery) manifests itself in two different ways. But I can look at a woman and think, "Wow, she is really a beautiful human being physically; praise God for his gift of physical beauty!" and there is no sin. My nature attraction to women is not sinful; rather, it is God-pleasing in that it led me to my spouse of 22 years, which according to his plan has formed a marriage that has produced 3 God-fearing children.
@@sidwhiting665 what I want to know is what would he say if he had a gay , or transgender child .
@@superg33kify how do you know. Do you have any. If you did, then what.
@@toddmiller7876 why would I ever teach kids about sexual things? Sounds wrong no matter how u look at it bud
@@toddmiller7876 kids won’t know; what You dont teach them
As a Catholic, this guy is my favorite Protestant speaker.
@Curtis Jones Really? Wow! Who told you that? Your edgy pastor in skinny jeans waving a Bible he stole from Catholic Tradition? Learn your history, the Catholic Church was founded by Jesus Christ, God incarnate, in 33 AD. I'd think twice before insulting the Kingdom of Christ.
@Curtis Jones that's not for you to say Curtis, you aren't God (I'm a Protestant)
Strive4 uh no sir I guess you really don’t know your own history
@@baopham6005 Do a quick Google search right now: who founded the Catholic Church? Im not saying I depend on Google for my info, but I'm pointing out it's a common fact and if you think otherwise you are perpetuating your ignorance. Which is unfortunate because the Catholic Church is awesome and you should come home.
@@strive4252 I'm a catholic , but I don't think it was necessary for you to say that because people will judge your faith. If you could have said a christian or theist. Every one needs to be a practicing Christian and believe Jesus only is the way. It's fine to explain your beliefs but I don't think it's the right way to comment on what sect of christianity you believe in. I'm a catholic too, it's just my opinion.
This man answered how i imagined Jesus would respond to a question like that, with wisdom and sensativity. Sent from Darlington England.
On point...thank you. Common sense is back!!!! Hallelujah!!!!!
Wow this man is quickly becoming a father in the Spirt to me. God bless you sir.
Matthew 23:9 (KJV) - And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
So... let me see if I understand. Like this guy said, people don't choose who they're attracted to. But, if you are attracted to people of the same sex, you're not supposed to act on it? I have several questions:
1. Why? And don't just say "because the Bible says so". Give me an actual reason. How does homosexuality actually _hurt_ anyone?
2. So, if you're gay/lesbian, you ought to live your life without romance? You're not allowed to love because of a something that isn't even your fault? Or are you supposed to marry someone you aren't attracted to?
Not being able to come out has caused many people depression and even suicide. I have a gay friend who has depression largely related to having homophobic parents. You people say you love all, and yet you tell others that their form of love is a sin. You say you don't judge or hate anyone, yet you say they will be judged for loving and that you hate a part of them. Smh.
Actually, the Bible does not say anything like what this guy claims. While it contains opposition to specific behaviours, there's not broad unequivocal opposition to all sameseks behaviour. A few isolated statements have been blown out of proportion into an insidious kind of theology that pushes people away from God, not towards him.
On the other contrary, Jesus says all God's commands are based on the command to honour God and do good to one another. Turek's views in this video misrepresent God and harm people (as you point out), so promoting them as he does is blatant immorality.
@@MusicalRaichu Thank you! I feel like there are so many other issues the Bible adresses that are bearly talked about meanwhile homosexuality is so strongly opposed when there's actually so little about it in the Bible.
@@thebelen2359 Beautiful comment highlighting the hypocrisy and prejudice of religiotards. I'm gonna steal it. ;)
@@kimbanton4398 Thank you! Go ahead :)
Define what love mean. I say that love does not necessarily involve sex. What I see is a culture so engrained with the fulfillment of our sexual desires that we can't even grasp the concept of chastity without feeling it as a wrong imposition. Furthermore, there are so many tendencies that may also be biologically influenced but do not necessarily translate into behaviors as we are able of acting opposed to our natural desires (is a pedophile, for exemple, guilty of their attraction or are they guilty for their action?) . Finally, if God says something is sinful and wrong, who am I to judge it on a moral perspective if I have no objective point of reference (as I have just claimed God is unjust in creating me in a certain way)? I would also add that God does not tempt neither can be tempted, but is our sinful nature which leads to temptation: our sinful desires are not rooted by God in us.
Excellent explanation Turek!!!
the fireplace analogy was genius
This guy is on a whole other level. The last part was too much for my brain to handle I had to repeat it 10x and I clicked once but then I was like I'm not ready for this much wisdom so I stopped.🤕
@Mavors Takes one to know one.
There is a big difference between being tempted (Like Jesus himself was for 40 days in the desert) and contemplating or fantasizing about sinning. When the thoughts of lust enter your mind do you immediately cast them out or do you entertain them? If simply being tempted is sinning then Jesus is guilty of sin, but Jesus was sinless therefor being tempted is not a sin.
Amen brother Amen.
Well said👊🏾🙌🏾
This guy has such a fascinating way of explaining
excellent practical breakdown on what sex truly is Frank,I needed to hear that bigtime...physical,spiritual,biological etc...!!
This guy has an awesome way with words!
Frank articulated his argument very well. It did not hint any judgmental attitude but rather it displayed something of love and compassion
Well said. ...Amen...God bless him in abundance
This is an honest guy
I assume you are being sarcastic here? Apologetics is by definition dishonest and Frank proves it here.
Mathew 5:28 "But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart." The bible says that feelings can be sinful. One doesn't have to act on ones desires for it to be a sin.
@@nastyHarry Exactly what I was thinking. No action is required to sin but only the lusting of one's heart.
@@nastyHarry
Someone can look attractive and you can still refuse to lust. Jesus said whoever lusts....
But nice try.
@@nastyHarry lust is a choice.
..he is a liar..
"Temptation comes from our own desires, which entice us and drag us away.These desires give birth to sinful actions. And when sin is allowed to grow, it gives birth to death". - James 1:14-15
Thankyou.
a great verse for homophobics
@@pastorbri
It is better to be a poor but wise youth than an old and foolish king who refuses all advice (Ecclesiastes 4:13)
Can you aim at truth and know AIDS are there?
@@pastorbri you mean homosexuals?
@@andyz3925 NO I mean homophobics.
Frank is talking about some book on this topic. Im not able to understand the accent.
Can anyone confirm the book name or the pdf link of the book
Lust isn't love. Lust is lust. Love is love.
Lusting in one’s heart IS sinful, according to Christ himself.
Wow this man is on fire
God bless, such amazing words.
This was amazing
The bible also says that thinking about a sinful act would be sinning in and of itself. So having an attraction to someone of the same sex is having thoughts of being with that someone, which renders you a sinner.
You are right however sexual attraction is an uncontrollable attraction not an intentional thought, I'm not defending homosexuality because I don't believe in it but sexual desires are uncontrollable emotions not intentional thoughts.
Actually u are wrong, having same sex attractions is not a sin, acting it out is, having attraction towards a man as another man is not sin its temptation, when u have lustful thoughts or have sex with the man is when it becomes sin. Fix ur logic please. I have talked to many Christians struggling with same sex attraction, as said in 1st Corinthians 6:9-11 men who practice homosexuality (keyword practice). U are not born gay and god did not make u that way. Having same sex attractions is a result of the fallen creation. Same sex attraction can develop over time through experiences. God says in 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 that there were homosexuals but he sanctified and glorified them by the blood of Jesus Christ. You can live with same sex attractions as a Christian if u don’t act them out and lust, the goal if ur homosexual and want god to help u should not be heterosexuality but holy sexuality.
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Jesus said that it's not the actions only but the thoughts... I agree with you that the temptation is not sin but unless you claim the promise of deliverance through prayer, once you are aware of the temptation and continue to think upon the temptation, then it becomes sin and needs to be repented of.
So, if I very briefly picture myself murdering someone who frustrates or mistreats me, like a one second fantasy (not a plan, but a symptom of a wish for this troublemaker to be gone)... is that sinful? Do you have a link for me? And how are we supposed to rid ourselves of such images?
Thinking it is not the sin, pondering the act is the sin. The Bible says that if a man looks on a woman to lust after her it is sin. The key word is "to". It is natural for us to have our desires but acting on them is the issue. If you allow yourself to imagine sex with someone you look upon that you aren't married to that is the sin. Imagining the act and enjoying the thoughts of that act is what Jesus was talking about being sin. It's like when you're angry you just wanna kill someone sometimes, it's a normal human emotion, it becomes sin when you start to contemplate how to do it and how you'll enjoy it and all the details of it. Desires are normal but acting them out, either in real life or in our minds is the difference in it being sin or not. What helps me is when I start thinking about things like that I immediately start thinking of the consequences of it all, I mean long term brother, and it usually stops me dead in my tracks.
Wow, so, people who are born with homosexual feelings and decide to act on them are sinners? Homosexuality isnt something that's only present in humans, it's also present in the aninal kingdom as well.. so I find it extremely unethical for a "holy book" to say that gay relationships are a sin.. furthermore, why do people use the bible as a reference point for morals, it's been changed over the years due to translation and political opinions, so who are we to reference that the bible is right.. Didnt jesus say to love everyone? Why can't we use that logic to help homosexuals and let them be themselves, they cant help their feelings can they?
Especially since the word homosexuality wasn’t even in the Bible until the 1940s
God said to love one another. But not to have sex with your own gender,
with family, with animals, with dead people, with fish or insects.
We can not help our feelings. That doesn't mean you will kill
your boyfriend because you found him in bed with a man.
Or force someone to have sex because you feel like it.
Also same sex is not found in the animal kingdom.
You can not find a documentary about it.
It just doesn't exist. Look it up.
If the bible has been changed why should we follow it when it says to love our neighbors. How do we know that hasnt been changed to suit us?
@@shanicesolomon9293 The Bible says to love your neighbor, not
to have sex with the person.
@@Art3615 I dont get where you are going with that statement
God bless you, Brother Frank.
Oh wow, these are some good concise answers for a tough topic. As a Christian, I need to learn to answer these questions better!
Well said. This articulation needs to be more widespread. As well as making the connection that true, authentic love should considers a person’s eternal soul and lifelong health and wellness, as opposed to only looking at earthly desires that may appear to be “love” at face value.
Can you quote me the verse of the Bible that says homosexuality is wrong?
@@goranmilic442 You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination
@@goranmilic442 Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, [10] Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
@@marcellofunhouse1234 Which word means homosexuals?
@@goranmilic442 Leviticus 18:22 ~ You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination.
Leviticus 20:13 ~ If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them.
Jude 1:7 ~ Just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding cities, which likewise indulged in sexual immorality and pursued unnatural desire, serve as an example by undergoing a punishment of eternal fire.
Romans 1:26-28 ~ For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error. And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done.
Mark 10:6-9 ~ But from the beginning of creation, ‘God made them male and female.’ ‘Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh.’ So they are no longer two but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let not man separate.”
Said with truth and love for forgiveness of sin and mercy through goodness
There was No word meaning Homosexual in the Ancient Greek or Hebrew
This is the very first Frank Turek video I watched. Thank the Lord I found him. Grace be to him.
So...do you think that homosexuality is wrong ? Knowing that it also exists in nature with bonobos or lions.
The Bible never says homosexuality is wrong. The word wasn’t added until 1946
In the Bible,
they call it sódómy.
@@KEN-1991 !? the S word isn't in the bible either.
and the two words mean different things. H is an attraction to people of the same secs, while S means poking it in the wrong hole. a man and woman can do S. two H guys can do it without doing S.
Ken my friend I suspect you've been hearing too many things from biased sources without checking the facts out for yourself.
@@MusicalRaichu
So what? "Homosexuaity", "Gay", and "LGBT", aren't in the Bible either.
Context is what's important, "sódómy" means doing what the sódómítés do, yes they were also gay and love to put it in the back.
Both things the Bible teaches not to do because it's not for humanity at all nor is it recognized by God.
And no I don't follow left propoganda.
@@KEN-1991 what does "left propaganda" mean? who left it? left it where?
as far as your other comments, you need to educate yourself with some facts. none of those words were in the bible. the people of that town were not gay, the bible does not say anything against ghays or ghay secs. some mistranslations do, but they're mistranslations.
@@MusicalRaichu
Like I said, context is important, no one can be educated without context.
What do you think every man both young and the old were going to do to those two male angels in that soon to be destroyed city to the point where they started breaking down doors to find them?
I lived as a g ay man till 11 years ago ago. I lived in deception on many things because I wanted to believe that God was ok with the way I was living. God had mercy on me because I was deep in sin and he totally changed me, night and day.
Hi, is there any way I can contact you.
Every other sin a person commits is outside the body, but the sexually immoral person sins against his own body. NIV: Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a person commits are outside the body, but whoever sins sexually, sins against their own body. ... For sexual immorality is a sin against your own body.
Every other sin a person commits is outside the body, but the sexually immoral person sins against his own body. NIV: Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a person commits are outside the body, but whoever sins sexually, sins against their own body. ... For sexual immorality is a sin against your own body.
Awesome brother!
This is a *_fantastic_* summary of the Christian perspective of the issue. That's not to say it covers everything, but it does a really great job of giving a condensed description that's accurate.
@Nick Jones Are you denying the existence of good and evil?
@Nick Jones When you suggested sin doesn't exist. Sin is just a word describing acts that are evil, so if sin is nonexistent as a concept, there can't be good or evil. Don't play games. I'm giving you a chance to be clear on your views because it's impossible for me to discuss them if I've misunderstood. Do you believe that concepts such as good and evil are real or not? If you don't, then I'll answer you one way. If you do, then I'll respond another.
@Nick Jones We can't have a discussion if I don't know what axioms you're starting from. All human knowledge starts with some basic assumption. I asked about yours because it makes a difference about how to present the argument. If you're not willing to tell me your own starting point for truth, then I can't present an argument you'll accept. This is just the nature of disagreement and debate, which apparently you don't want to engage in. It cannot go one way; you have to be willing to explain your own views as well.
@Nick Jones Fine, since I have no idea what your starting point is or your objections are, I'll just share a brief summary of my own reasoning. Obviously, you have much to learn in terms of how reasoning (much less argumentation) actually works, as none of the things I've said about your lack of sharing your opinion even needed mentioning beforehand because they're fundamental to any discussion. I know you won't find my response at all convincing, though.
1. I find the Biblical accounts of Jesus' life, death, and resurrection credible.
2. I believe the Bible's claim in Jesus' goodness because of the goodness He demonstrated in His life, as recorded in the gospels.
3. Because He demonstrated His goodness combined with His resurrection, I believe Jesus' claim that He is God incarnate.
4. Because Jesus is God incarnate, He has the authority to declare the truth, both factual and moral.
5. Jesus declared the correctness of the moral law in the Old Testament, though He did clarify that the methods of enforcement laid out were specific to Israel's government of the time rather than general commands for all Christians.
6. The Old Testament law explicitly forbids homosexuality.
Now that I've wasted my time, perhaps you'd like to be specific so we can actually have a productive conversation.
@Nick Jones Yeah... That's pretty much what I thought. You haven't delved into these issues at all. You're just prejudiced against people based on religion. You're just here to insult and deride because of that prejudice. No sense wasting my time. By whose standard do you deem it good to be so hateful?
Love for good and love for evil can never be the same
Spot on. Great understanding of God’s Word
Imagine caring what consenting adults do in their bedroom
SonoftheWay35
Lol
Hey at least someone tried to warn you before you close your eyes forever
Wow you truly are a man of God.I need to save this.
Not to challenge but what about if you lust in mind you’ve sinned in heart? I know that was contextually for men and women, but would that not be applicable toward that attraction and though too?