I love that her costume is slowly coming together based on the people she bonds with and as she discovers more of her history. I think the format feels more like destiny rather than her automatically having the outfit. It's like her experience and acts are shaping her into the hero she so desires to be without even noticing it. While I do wish the episode was a bit longer, I really enjoyed it.
"It's like her experience and acts are shaping her into the hero she so desires to be without even noticing it." That *does* lean into the "what you seek is seeking you" concept...
In the comics, Bruno's mother was a drug addict who left him with her parents. In this episode Bruno was saying to Kamran that his noni, grandmother, left him some lasagna that Kamran could have just before the drone showed up. Also Kamala's mom mentioned his grandmother when she handed him the bag of food in episode 1.
i really hope they get to bond over the trauma of both being abandoned .. ofc Kamran’s just happened but Bruno needs to express that kinda trauma to someone to let himself realize that he is much better off on his own… i say this from a biased perspective but i jus really wanna see that kind of trauma bond on screen. it’s something that not a lot of people can just talk about easily and ESPECIALLY hard for men who feel they can’t express anything without being viewed as lesser. (once again biased but i feel it’s an important message.)
I agree. I just don't understand why people are not watching this. People do realize she is here to stay as a future Avenger. Everyone is like "ITS NOT CONNECTING". They can't have their own stories that don't involve the others? Either way I love this show.
@@devar7502 cool dude..unnecessary reply on somebody’s comment who obviously enjoyed the episode. If you don’t like it that’s cool, don’t ruin it for someone else
Episode 6 is directed by the same duo responsible for episode 1 so that bodes well for the finale. The director of episodes 4 and 5 is an award-winning documentary film-maker so that might explain some of the pacing issues that folks have noticed.
My mind went in the same direction! The drone outside the house immediately took me to the "Sentinels going after jubilee" storyline in the beginning of the x men animated series!
Nah, I’d much prefer it if they kept Bolivar Trask as the creator of the Sentinels (partly because of how fantastically fucked up the Trask family are, who would be great as recurring X-villains). Not every piece of technology in the MCU has to come from Tony fucking Stark, jfc 🙄
I absolutely loved this episode. But it does make me question: why were the clandestines banished in the first place and why does najma want to go back so badly?
In the comics they're pariahs for the usual reasons - being just all around awful people - but this version is a mixture of ClanDestine and Kamran's completely unrelated family, with a little bit of Lineage's "we're simply superior" philosophy
Don't expect answers - the writers have no idea. They haven't explained any of the mythology in a satisfying manner. The villains were the worst we've ever seen in the MCU, with constantly shifting motivations and an incredibly forgettable presence. Who can even remember the name of Kamran's mother? The CGI when she died was so so so bad I laughed. There are such wonderful elements in Ms Marvel, with amazing characters and some good historical narrative, but my opinion has changed a lot over five episodes. After the first episode I thought it was the strongest show they've done in a while. Now I think it's the weakest.
It says something that Damage Control is using drones cleared to implement lethal sanctions. I expect that episode six is going to be focused on DODC and what the heck they are doing.
Okay so some people had been pointing out that apparently Kamran is some kind of super being in the comics and the power he has are the same ones shown in this episode. The change/adaptation for Kamala’s powers to be more cosmic and more linked to his origins makes a lot more sense now because of the story that they decided to do.
In the comics Kamran is like Kamala an inhuman though. So they were connected through a common heritage either way and connecting it with the cosmic stuff, would also have been easy since terragin and the inhumans come from Kree experiments and the audience knows the Krees already through Captain Marvel at least.
ONE: don't forget the extra deep diving origin in WandaVision's semi-finale. And TWO: imo, if you're gonna show yourself being a hero, having to fend off shady law enforcement to protect her friends, family, and crowd control citizens seems like the perfect setup for Kamala.
You guys gave me an idea: Touching the Noor didn't work for Najma and Co., But it could work for Kamran and Kamala, who aren't Clandestine, surrounding them in crystal and activating their full power potential.
Because they were banished from the Noor so going back is a no no. But, Najma can go back using Kamran's body since he's a hybrid of both worlds. It's been hinted in the previous episodes, "genetics".
Im so ready for episode 6. Like Im sure theyre going to fight department of damage control and SHE FINALLY WILL GET HER SUIT. Now she definitely needs a season 2
I wonder if the final episode is basically setting up what comes next after the series is over. Sets up something with Captain Marvel for the Marvels movie.
My thinking is because the bangle and the ten rings have a connection, and we saw Carol in shamg chi, that we ate going to see her or even Maria pop up at the end telling Kamala something about herself and her connection to the cosmic issue they are facing
I loved this episode especially as my mother just left for back to our country for the first time in 16 years this episode hit me cause I’ve never been separated from my mother since I’m an only child and she was my only guardian so seeing this episode hit harder than it should’ve.
Bruno says "Nonna is out of town" and in an earlier episode Kamala's mom sent him home with food for him and Nonna so it sounds like he lives with his grandmother.
I accidently clicked a straight up Google ad for the 5th time today trying to like this video!!!!! And I love yall so much my phone is still intact and I came back to finish the video -_-
My favorite part about the tongue-in-cheek intro on this one is that even as I'm laughing at how they always knew, all along, who Theron was playing, Adam is STILL calling Clea "Cleo." :D
The one thing that this show has done, is made me appreciate my family a lot more. I never tell them I love them, even though I do. And they know it. And I know they know it. But man....good parents are great. And...I dunno...just maybe take the time to let them know that they are great before it's too late. I'm high AF.
I said this on another reaction while watching this episode I interrupted “What you seek is seeking you.” As- “What you are seeking is you.” “Wherever you go you’ll discover yourself.” “What you are looking for, is who you are.”
What really grinds me gears about this and other Disney + shows is the run time. This episode is listed at 41 minutes but there are eight minutes and 33 seconds of Marvel Logo Intros, Recaps and End Credits that subtract from that 41 minutes and really give us a 33 minute episode. They either need to make more episodes, make the episodes longer or post the actual run times of the episodes. It sucks to be watching the show and having to do math and see how much is actually left LoL.
This episode was very touching/heartwarming in the sense that Kamala connected with Muneeba (her mother), Muneeba reconnected with Sana (her mother). The ending did feel a tad rushed, but I’ve enjoyed the various connections Kamala has made throughout these first five episodes. While the Djinn may be out of the picture, let’s not forget about Damage Control; they are very much still a threat in this show.
Falcon & Winter Soldiers and Ms Marvel reminds us some real life socia-politic issues. I say they have really good writing. For anyone's who interested in India/Pakistan partition, you may check Vox's Border series presented by Johnny Harris.
Nah. The writing on TFATWS was appalling. As was its hamfisted attempts at dealing with "issues". This show is not as bad but it does have some major problems that continue to hold it back.
I think the veil was a door taking you to where you want to go but can only do so safely for the person wearing the bangle. Kamala wanted to find out what happened with her great grandmother and the train so she got sent there. Kamran's mother originally wanted to get her friends home, but after they were all dead, she wanted to go to her son. A door opened to take her to her son, momentarily, instead of to her home and that somehow closed it while destroying her in the process. And then somehow, that temporary door exposed Kamran to noor, which changed him the same way that the bangle changed Kamala. And maybe the wavy light was supposed to be terrigen (in the comics, Kamran is also an Inhuman and an antagonist). Hard to be sure. Anyway, I enjoyed the episode overall, but yes, it could have been improved by ending it earlier and shifting the whole scene with Kamran and Bruno to a post-credit scene instead. It would have been less jarring.
When her mom picked up the necklace I realized she is gonna make her costume!!! Also I feel like this and the last episode maybe have been meant to be one episode cause of that weird ending lol
I disagree about the full overarching plot. I think most of it is really good in the sense of, I like her powers. I like the origin of them. I think the flashback was brilliant and I liked going to Karachi. The red dagger didn’t have a ton of screen time but it was enough for me to want to see more of him. Like I would want him to do the comic line where he comes to the US for a bit or even a full series on his own where he’s fighting in Karachi. The red daggers were not just against clandestine, they were basically vigilantes for the streets of Karachi. I really like kamran even, but it’s the other clandestine that we’re the weak links. I’ve had more fun watching this show then most, they’re just one small weak part in an overall brilliant show. I think she needed to find herself in this episode so she can be the hero who saves in the last. That might just be against the DODC and that makes sense narratively, the villains aren’t the strong point of the series but god damn the rest of the show makes up for it. You’re right I want more nakia and the family. Their interactions with Kamala are the best part of the show. And I can’t wait to see them all again in future projects
@@devar7502 I disagree that it went downhill. I mean I understand where you’re coming from, they used the first three to make us fall in love with her family, friends and world only to spend two full episodes away from all of that and with new characters. That being said, I wouldn’t say those two were bad at all. I love red dagger and want him in more stuff, I love the grandma interactions and her use in character development towards maneeba, and the flashback to partition was beautiful. I do feel like this should have been a season two moment or something to go all the way to Karachi but for what it is I thought it was good. Regardless, the story itself I think is really good for building up Kamala and her friends and family and the origin of her powers. I thoroughly enjoyed episode four and it’s world building and the beginning of episode five, just not a fan of the najma arc. Felt more like a gateway to get to Aisha and kamran being interesting then for najma to be interesting. As a whole it’s one of my favorite marvel projects and I think Iman as Kamala might be the most perfect casting I’ve seen in a while
The Veil rejected them that's why they couldn't go back without the power of the bangle(s). But, if they infused their power to an interdimensional hybrid being (in their perspective, HUMANS), they can.
I had the same feeling when this episode ended, "So now what?" It felt like a season finale, with the part at the end with "Brian" and Kamran feeling like the teaser for season 2...it felt like the start of a new story, not a continuation of the season 1 story, but we'll see how they wrap it up. I hope the final episode is more original than "saving Kamran from the evil government." Also agree with what you said about Kamala...she is a fantastic character and can't wait to see her in more Marvel stuff.
I can’t believe that we were never taught this in schools. I went through four AP history classes in high school, and I was never taught that Pakistan was part of India at one point and at the British separated it. This episode had me crying almost the whole time.
It may not seem like it at first but this story is leading somewhere relevant. So, I was catching the bus home from shopping and a pair of friends get on that instantly reminded me of me and my best friend as well as you two in a way. First thing I heard one say was that she doesn't like spicy food and that she has this rice that she doesn't know the name of and she puts this sauce on it that she also doesn't know the name of and it's really nice. There's only a few types of Indian food she likes....but if he wants to go to the Indian restaurant for his birthday that's what they'll do. Instantly I'm reminded of discussions I've had with my best friend although she loves Indian food and I eat what I eat which is also exactly what this girl said so she's the me in the dynamic. Then as if that wasn't close enough she said she'd make a reservation to the place if the guy wanted although he doesn't like planning ahead which drives her crazy. Again, I've known by best friend for almost 11 years now and it took me awhile to get used to her way of living which was just "We'll figure it out when it happens". I could never get her to even give me a rough time and when I could she'd inevitably show up hours later if at all. Sometimes she'd just forget entirely if we made a plan more than 24 hours earlier. It used to drive me insane and it was upsetting at first but if you stick around you realize it's not a personal thing. It's why she only has a few good friends. As do I but for different reasons which is probably also why we get along so well. We've reached similar points in our lives through very different journeys and as such we kind of make up one really awesome person because we make up for each other's weaknesses and make each other better. It may sound strange but it's become the most rewarding relationship I currently have. Anyway, yeah. That's the end.
It felt like they didn't have enough material for the backstory episode i.e. usually the ep before the finale......so they had to add some plot to buff up the episode.....Wandavision and Moon Knight had enough material to occupy a whole episode of backstory I believe that is the reason the ending felt abrupt..... Kamala going back and saving her grandmother is an absolute point in time just like the What if episode based on Dr Strange
Here me out... what if the Clandestine Djinn that touched the veil aren't actually dead, just released from their Human dimension forms that were part of their Exile/Imprisonment. That means two of the Clandestine are alive in their Noor forms ready to influence (maybe beyond his control) Kamran. Final battle/resolution in Ep 6.
So before I even watch the preview I have to say this. I for the life of me was having a brain fart and couldn't remember the name of this channel. So I sang the intro to myself. JS. That's some grade A jingle shit. Anyways. Time to watch along. Lol.
Move the Cameron/Bruno stuff to before the Family hug scene. Add a scene after the family hug where they get a phone call or message from Yusuf who tells them that the circle Q exploded. Then end. I feel that would have given it a little more momentum and urgency leading into episode 6.
This is not a fighty fight the bad guy and save the city/world/universe story. It’s just a coming of age story about a young girl learning the origins of her family. Lot of people complaining about who the villains are or where is this story going and I’m just like who cares? I don’t need villains, I just want to watch this family hang out and learn things about each other.
Is the DODC not a antagonistic force still? I’m thinking that’s gonna lead into her meeting the lead guy there and then meeting a skrull to set up for The Marvels
This show absolutely blindsided me. It’s so much better then most of the rest of Marvel TV. I really like it. And I didn’t even want to watch this show. 😝
It's probably better than the previous TV shows produced by Marvel Studios. But better than the likes of Daredevil or Agents of SHIELD? Not even close.
1). you don't get cricket? [stares judgingly]. 2). that aside, oh this felt like a short bollywood film and had so much heart. 3). the emotions i felt when Kamala was pleading with Najma to go back to Kamran! 4) i CAN ATTEST - paratha is life! liiiiffffeeee!
I mean, Kamala and Kareem weren't in conflict that much, and it's good for her to have allies abroad. Some Avengers don't even have that. lol As for the final antagonists, I felt like that's obvious. Damage Control or at least its most zealously prejudicial agents coming after Kamala and Kamran. And we have to see how well Kamran takes the news of his mother's death because he's either going to be a defend mission or a sudden threat.
You watch, episode 6 is gonna simply be Kamala putting together her outfit and saving kamran and Bruno then Kamala says “peace I’m out, see you in The Marvels.” 😅😂🤦♂️
I seriously don't understand nor comprehend the hate for this episode and show as a whole. I really don't. Ending scene notwithstanding, this is once again another phenomenal episode. Honestly, this has been a truly wonderful experience. I cannot wait for the finale!
Solid episode…just don’t know where they go from here. Rumor from what I hear is a reliable source says Kamran will be a villain in the last episode, but early promo clips show them fighting together so not sure about that. I’m guessing if anything he finds out his mother is dead and initially blames it on Kamala. The DODC has been so incompetent, but it appears they’ll be the final antagonists with I’m guessing some set up for The Marvels. Maybe a visit from Carol or Monica.
I’ve been really enjoying the show but to be honest this episode was very odd to me. The backstory with Aisha was great but the whole Kamala going back in time to save her own grandma, Najma having a complete change in motivation out of no where, Kamran getting his powers and the way the episode ended felt really rushed and didn’t make a whole lot of sense. Hopefully the finale is better and sticks the landing
As an American who is a generation ahead of you, everything I know about The Partition I learned from the movie "Gandhi" the 1982 movie starring Ben Kinsgley. (Yay, history!) The editing and pacing of these last 2 episodes has been weird. Agreed with you guys that the pacing of this series has been a little weird. Hopefully episode 6 will bring it all home.
I have not watched Ghandi but I have heard it is about Ghandi's efforts to bring India to independence. I did watch a little bit of Jinnah in which Christopher Lee played Mohammad Ali Jinnah. I remember I was really saddened to see the trains return with dead bodies and blood everywhere inside.
I love that her costume is slowly coming together based on the people she bonds with and as she discovers more of her history. I think the format feels more like destiny rather than her automatically having the outfit. It's like her experience and acts are shaping her into the hero she so desires to be without even noticing it. While I do wish the episode was a bit longer, I really enjoyed it.
"It's like her experience and acts are shaping her into the hero she so desires to be without even noticing it."
That *does* lean into the "what you seek is seeking you" concept...
@@Solutad Very true, thank you for pointing that out!
It feels like she’s leveling up with each episode.
Agreed
In the comics, Bruno's mother was a drug addict who left him with her parents. In this episode Bruno was saying to Kamran that his noni, grandmother, left him some lasagna that Kamran could have just before the drone showed up. Also Kamala's mom mentioned his grandmother when she handed him the bag of food in episode 1.
i really hope they get to bond over the trauma of both being abandoned .. ofc Kamran’s just happened but Bruno needs to express that kinda trauma to someone to let himself realize that he is much better off on his own… i say this from a biased perspective but i jus really wanna see that kind of trauma bond on screen. it’s something that not a lot of people can just talk about easily and ESPECIALLY hard for men who feel they can’t express anything without being viewed as lesser. (once again biased but i feel it’s an important message.)
making her lightning bolt symbol an arabic K for her name is a brilliant way to explain because Carol never wore that in the MCU
This episode had me in tears. This show is just so so so so good.
Preach!!!
I agree. I just don't understand why people are not watching this. People do realize she is here to stay as a future Avenger. Everyone is like "ITS NOT CONNECTING". They can't have their own stories that don't involve the others? Either way I love this show.
@@Aniki_Arts I honestly think its biggest strength has been its lack of focus on the MCU at large
this episode made me close my eyes
@@devar7502 cool dude..unnecessary reply on somebody’s comment who obviously enjoyed the episode. If you don’t like it that’s cool, don’t ruin it for someone else
Episode 6 is directed by the same duo responsible for episode 1 so that bodes well for the finale. The director of episodes 4 and 5 is an award-winning documentary film-maker so that might explain some of the pacing issues that folks have noticed.
But also might explain how well the partition was handled
@@earlgendron4603 True
The partition was really well done, so happy to share my culture and background with yalll
I ugly cried this whole episode. Its takes a special way to make me cry and this did it.
"Ontological Paradox" (or Bootstrap Paradox) is what it's called. TVA has nothing to be afraid for it since it's "meant to happen".
I feel like the Stark drones used by Damage Control are going to end up being the forerunners of the Sentinel program
My mind went in the same direction! The drone outside the house immediately took me to the "Sentinels going after jubilee" storyline in the beginning of the x men animated series!
Nah, I’d much prefer it if they kept Bolivar Trask as the creator of the Sentinels (partly because of how fantastically fucked up the Trask family are, who would be great as recurring X-villains). Not every piece of technology in the MCU has to come from Tony fucking Stark, jfc 🙄
I absolutely loved this episode. But it does make me question: why were the clandestines banished in the first place and why does najma want to go back so badly?
Yes. It seems like all the writing was focused on Kamala discovering her heritage. Everything else was left on the backburner.
In the comics they're pariahs for the usual reasons - being just all around awful people - but this version is a mixture of ClanDestine and Kamran's completely unrelated family, with a little bit of Lineage's "we're simply superior" philosophy
Don't expect answers - the writers have no idea. They haven't explained any of the mythology in a satisfying manner. The villains were the worst we've ever seen in the MCU, with constantly shifting motivations and an incredibly forgettable presence. Who can even remember the name of Kamran's mother? The CGI when she died was so so so bad I laughed. There are such wonderful elements in Ms Marvel, with amazing characters and some good historical narrative, but my opinion has changed a lot over five episodes. After the first episode I thought it was the strongest show they've done in a while. Now I think it's the weakest.
@@wanderingseth ok
I mean, that all seems like it's GONNA be explored in Season 2
I actually heard that her parents and brother will be in The Marvels movie! Soooooo happy to hear this!
Heroes reforged? Am I doing the same thing you're doing but with a delay? 😅
@@meertntoch1438 yes!!! I see you're making the rounds also lol!!
@@mikyraakinnard1937
Ayyyy! Me too
It says something that Damage Control is using drones cleared to implement lethal sanctions. I expect that episode six is going to be focused on DODC and what the heck they are doing.
Yeah, Damage control are obviously the bad guys. Their whole existence is a PROBLEM. I bet they get set up for a bigger overarching plot.
Bruno lives with his "nonna" which is grandma in Italian. Love the great reactions can't wait til' next week!
oh really "nonna" is Grandma in italian?
and here in Pakistan its "Nani" for Grandma & "Nana" for Grandpa.
imagine how much potential this show could have if they gave it more than six episodes
Okay so some people had been pointing out that apparently Kamran is some kind of super being in the comics and the power he has are the same ones shown in this episode. The change/adaptation for Kamala’s powers to be more cosmic and more linked to his origins makes a lot more sense now because of the story that they decided to do.
In the comics Kamran is like Kamala an inhuman though. So they were connected through a common heritage either way and connecting it with the cosmic stuff, would also have been easy since terragin and the inhumans come from Kree experiments and the audience knows the Krees already through Captain Marvel at least.
"Nobody understands cricket! You have to know what a crumpet is to understand cricket!"
@@katv1195 Enh. football is just sissy rugby
ONE: don't forget the extra deep diving origin in WandaVision's semi-finale. And TWO: imo, if you're gonna show yourself being a hero, having to fend off shady law enforcement to protect her friends, family, and crowd control citizens seems like the perfect setup for Kamala.
“I hurt me just to feel… spice-wise.” 😂 I would buy that T-shirt for sure!
I’d rock it
You guys gave me an idea: Touching the Noor didn't work for Najma and Co., But it could work for Kamran and Kamala, who aren't Clandestine, surrounding them in crystal and activating their full power potential.
Because they were banished from the Noor so going back is a no no. But, Najma can go back using Kamran's body since he's a hybrid of both worlds. It's been hinted in the previous episodes, "genetics".
@@danbalares4818 comment section r always filled with geniuses. great theory
I had the same reaction "WAIT, it's over?" 🤣😂 Right when it was getting good too.
Im so ready for episode 6. Like Im sure theyre going to fight department of damage control and SHE FINALLY WILL GET HER SUIT. Now she definitely needs a season 2
I wonder if the final episode is basically setting up what comes next after the series is over. Sets up something with Captain Marvel for the Marvels movie.
My thinking is because the bangle and the ten rings have a connection, and we saw Carol in shamg chi, that we ate going to see her or even Maria pop up at the end telling Kamala something about herself and her connection to the cosmic issue they are facing
Grandmother …. Out of town. She left Bruno lasagna. Love you guys!
Brono parents showed up in episode 2 in Eid Festival. when Nakya was mentioning the classes in the votes
I loved this episode especially as my mother just left for back to our country for the first time in 16 years this episode hit me cause I’ve never been separated from my mother since I’m an only child and she was my only guardian so seeing this episode hit harder than it should’ve.
“Flavor! My only weakness! Argghh…” 😂🤣
Bruno says "Nonna is out of town" and in an earlier episode Kamala's mom sent him home with food for him and Nonna so it sounds like he lives with his grandmother.
I accidently clicked a straight up Google ad for the 5th time today trying to like this video!!!!! And I love yall so much my phone is still intact and I came back to finish the video -_-
… i have a feeling that Kamala’s mom is going to make her costume
The rice is called Biriyani. You can make it or order it at different spice levels.
Ep 6 she’s going back to help Kamran and will then need to deal with damage control
I was waiting for Adam to say “GOOD JOB KID” during the grandma’s traumatic experience 🤣🤣
My favorite part about the tongue-in-cheek intro on this one is that even as I'm laughing at how they always knew, all along, who Theron was playing, Adam is STILL calling Clea "Cleo." :D
It feels like they filmed 9 episodes and had to cut it to 6. This episode progressed at WARP speed.
The one thing that this show has done, is made me appreciate my family a lot more. I never tell them I love them, even though I do. And they know it. And I know they know it. But man....good parents are great. And...I dunno...just maybe take the time to let them know that they are great before it's too late.
I'm high AF.
I said this on another reaction while watching this episode I interrupted “What you seek is seeking you.” As-
“What you are seeking is you.”
“Wherever you go you’ll discover yourself.”
“What you are looking for, is who you are.”
What really grinds me gears about this and other Disney + shows is the run time. This episode is listed at 41 minutes but there are eight minutes and 33 seconds of Marvel Logo Intros, Recaps and End Credits that subtract from that 41 minutes and really give us a 33 minute episode. They either need to make more episodes, make the episodes longer or post the actual run times of the episodes. It sucks to be watching the show and having to do math and see how much is actually left LoL.
About Bruno's situation in the comics, hes raised by his grandparents
This series is blowing my mind. it's just a breath of fresh air and I love everything about this Ms Marvel! 😀
This episode was very touching/heartwarming in the sense that Kamala connected with Muneeba (her mother), Muneeba reconnected with Sana (her mother). The ending did feel a tad rushed, but I’ve enjoyed the various connections Kamala has made throughout these first five episodes.
While the Djinn may be out of the picture, let’s not forget about Damage Control; they are very much still a threat in this show.
You guys help me get through my days and weeks with a smile and some real laughter. Thank you. Never change Chip and Dale.💪🏽🤎👍🏽
I... fully agree with Jay, this show's real draw and what makes it awesome is just the characters and their interactions more then the actual plot.
In the comics, Bruno's dayside co-worker at the Circle Q is named *Chatty* Bob.
Falcon & Winter Soldiers and Ms Marvel reminds us some real life socia-politic issues. I say they have really good writing.
For anyone's who interested in India/Pakistan partition, you may check Vox's Border series presented by Johnny Harris.
Nah. The writing on TFATWS was appalling. As was its hamfisted attempts at dealing with "issues". This show is not as bad but it does have some major problems that continue to hold it back.
Ok, the Honeydew and Beaker into was fantastic.
In the 1st epi kamala mentioned bruno does not have much of a family
I think the veil was a door taking you to where you want to go but can only do so safely for the person wearing the bangle. Kamala wanted to find out what happened with her great grandmother and the train so she got sent there. Kamran's mother originally wanted to get her friends home, but after they were all dead, she wanted to go to her son. A door opened to take her to her son, momentarily, instead of to her home and that somehow closed it while destroying her in the process. And then somehow, that temporary door exposed Kamran to noor, which changed him the same way that the bangle changed Kamala. And maybe the wavy light was supposed to be terrigen (in the comics, Kamran is also an Inhuman and an antagonist). Hard to be sure.
Anyway, I enjoyed the episode overall, but yes, it could have been improved by ending it earlier and shifting the whole scene with Kamran and Bruno to a post-credit scene instead. It would have been less jarring.
This series really needed to be 8 episodes, to flesh it out
When her mom picked up the necklace I realized she is gonna make her costume!!! Also I feel like this and the last episode maybe have been meant to be one episode cause of that weird ending lol
Yeah and the old album showing mother so stylist
I think she's into fashion
That make more sense
what a great way to end the day with some pReview'd
I disagree about the full overarching plot. I think most of it is really good in the sense of, I like her powers. I like the origin of them. I think the flashback was brilliant and I liked going to Karachi. The red dagger didn’t have a ton of screen time but it was enough for me to want to see more of him. Like I would want him to do the comic line where he comes to the US for a bit or even a full series on his own where he’s fighting in Karachi. The red daggers were not just against clandestine, they were basically vigilantes for the streets of Karachi. I really like kamran even, but it’s the other clandestine that we’re the weak links. I’ve had more fun watching this show then most, they’re just one small weak part in an overall brilliant show. I think she needed to find herself in this episode so she can be the hero who saves in the last. That might just be against the DODC and that makes sense narratively, the villains aren’t the strong point of the series but god damn the rest of the show makes up for it. You’re right I want more nakia and the family. Their interactions with Kamala are the best part of the show. And I can’t wait to see them all again in future projects
imo the first 3 episodes were good, then everything went downhill
@@devar7502 I disagree that it went downhill. I mean I understand where you’re coming from, they used the first three to make us fall in love with her family, friends and world only to spend two full episodes away from all of that and with new characters. That being said, I wouldn’t say those two were bad at all. I love red dagger and want him in more stuff, I love the grandma interactions and her use in character development towards maneeba, and the flashback to partition was beautiful. I do feel like this should have been a season two moment or something to go all the way to Karachi but for what it is I thought it was good. Regardless, the story itself I think is really good for building up Kamala and her friends and family and the origin of her powers. I thoroughly enjoyed episode four and it’s world building and the beginning of episode five, just not a fan of the najma arc. Felt more like a gateway to get to Aisha and kamran being interesting then for najma to be interesting. As a whole it’s one of my favorite marvel projects and I think Iman as Kamala might be the most perfect casting I’ve seen in a while
ADAM!!! you better give Jay his $10
My guess is that the powers that Kamran got are going to go out of control and containing that is the final conflict.
They still have to deal with the DODC.
Very hyped for the finale! 🔥👍🏻
The Veil rejected them that's why they couldn't go back without the power of the bangle(s). But, if they infused their power to an interdimensional hybrid being (in their perspective, HUMANS), they can.
I love to watch you guys see you next episode
We're going to get Kamala and America Chavez together next! That's going to be wild. I predict BFFs.
I had the same feeling when this episode ended, "So now what?" It felt like a season finale, with the part at the end with "Brian" and Kamran feeling like the teaser for season 2...it felt like the start of a new story, not a continuation of the season 1 story, but we'll see how they wrap it up. I hope the final episode is more original than "saving Kamran from the evil government."
Also agree with what you said about Kamala...she is a fantastic character and can't wait to see her in more Marvel stuff.
I can’t believe that we were never taught this in schools. I went through four AP history classes in high school, and I was never taught that Pakistan was part of India at one point and at the British separated it.
This episode had me crying almost the whole time.
I KNEW "I Hurt Me Just to Feel" was a hit song from the trending K-pop girl band, Spicewise...
I legit, had the same reaction to you guys at the end of this episode.
Like..... Wut. 0.0 😂
Here's a hint for episode six.
In the comics, when he got his powers, Kamran became an omega level dick.......
Kamran has powers in the comics.
It may not seem like it at first but this story is leading somewhere relevant. So, I was catching the bus home from shopping and a pair of friends get on that instantly reminded me of me and my best friend as well as you two in a way. First thing I heard one say was that she doesn't like spicy food and that she has this rice that she doesn't know the name of and she puts this sauce on it that she also doesn't know the name of and it's really nice. There's only a few types of Indian food she likes....but if he wants to go to the Indian restaurant for his birthday that's what they'll do. Instantly I'm reminded of discussions I've had with my best friend although she loves Indian food and I eat what I eat which is also exactly what this girl said so she's the me in the dynamic. Then as if that wasn't close enough she said she'd make a reservation to the place if the guy wanted although he doesn't like planning ahead which drives her crazy. Again, I've known by best friend for almost 11 years now and it took me awhile to get used to her way of living which was just "We'll figure it out when it happens". I could never get her to even give me a rough time and when I could she'd inevitably show up hours later if at all. Sometimes she'd just forget entirely if we made a plan more than 24 hours earlier. It used to drive me insane and it was upsetting at first but if you stick around you realize it's not a personal thing. It's why she only has a few good friends. As do I but for different reasons which is probably also why we get along so well. We've reached similar points in our lives through very different journeys and as such we kind of make up one really awesome person because we make up for each other's weaknesses and make each other better. It may sound strange but it's become the most rewarding relationship I currently have. Anyway, yeah. That's the end.
Adam you are forgetting the DODC.. there is still a villain.
"Spice-wise" is definitely the culinary version of "in Minecraft." And I would very much like it on a shirt please
Also, check out the Disney Wish Marvel dinner. She is in it.
It felt like they didn't have enough material for the backstory episode i.e. usually the ep before the finale......so they had to add some plot to buff up the episode.....Wandavision and Moon Knight had enough material to occupy a whole episode of backstory
I believe that is the reason the ending felt abrupt.....
Kamala going back and saving her grandmother is an absolute point in time just like the What if episode based on Dr Strange
Thank you Jay. I am glad I am not the only one thinks that. This show's plot is a little off the train tracks.
So Noon is the MCU version of Terrigen Mist and the Clandestines were unworthy for some reason... Is there someone in their dimension judging this?
War according to Adam “apparently not a very good time for a lot of people” 😂👏
Here me out... what if the Clandestine Djinn that touched the veil aren't actually dead, just released from their Human dimension forms that were part of their Exile/Imprisonment. That means two of the Clandestine are alive in their Noor forms ready to influence (maybe beyond his control) Kamran. Final battle/resolution in Ep 6.
"Naan bread is maybe one of the best foods." You are correct sir!!
So before I even watch the preview I have to say this.
I for the life of me was having a brain fart and couldn't remember the name of this channel. So I sang the intro to myself. JS. That's some grade A jingle shit. Anyways. Time to watch along. Lol.
There is a way to FIX IT so you never forgot, *Randolpho.*
@@AG-co5iu oh I'm subscribed. Lol.
Move the Cameron/Bruno stuff to before the Family hug scene.
Add a scene after the family hug where they get a phone call or message from Yusuf who tells them that the circle Q exploded.
Then end.
I feel that would have given it a little more momentum and urgency leading into episode 6.
Hey guys. What if the second bangle is in possession of one of the members of the DODC? Would that help with closure?
It's Jay / And Sherlock / It's ... Previewd!
This is not a fighty fight the bad guy and save the city/world/universe story. It’s just a coming of age story about a young girl learning the origins of her family.
Lot of people complaining about who the villains are or where is this story going and I’m just like who cares? I don’t need villains, I just want to watch this family hang out and learn things about each other.
Is the DODC not a antagonistic force still? I’m thinking that’s gonna lead into her meeting the lead guy there and then meeting a skrull to set up for The Marvels
The finale will be fighting off the DoDC. Vengeance for the Circle Q!
This show absolutely blindsided me. It’s so much better then most of the rest of Marvel TV. I really like it. And I didn’t even want to watch this show. 😝
Totally agree! I didn’t even know about this show. But now I love it!! ❤️
It's probably better than the previous TV shows produced by Marvel Studios. But better than the likes of Daredevil or Agents of SHIELD? Not even close.
@@jackdubz4247 that’s an opinion buddy
Yes Moon knight is still at my top but the show was so unexpected I thought I would hate it at first but now I’m in love
@@jackdubz4247 I was referring to the newer Disney plus shows. Of course daredevil is better then this.
After this episode, I think I can safely say that I rank the Clandestines in the bottom 3 MCU villains. Only the Flag Smashers are below them.
Let us never speak of the "Flag Smashers" ever again.
Department of Damage Control is the big baddie. They remind me of a precursor to the those giant robots in X-Men.
1). you don't get cricket? [stares judgingly]. 2). that aside, oh this felt like a short bollywood film and had so much heart. 3). the emotions i felt when Kamala was pleading with Najma to go back to Kamran! 4) i CAN ATTEST - paratha is life! liiiiffffeeee!
Kamran is going to find out what happened to his mother and blame Kamala. She will then have to fight him. St least that's what I think will happen.
Boys watch the Gandhi movie, might explain a lot and it's a thrilling thing.
Jay, & Adam are you going t6p play "The Quarry" on your game stream?
I mean, Kamala and Kareem weren't in conflict that much, and it's good for her to have allies abroad. Some Avengers don't even have that. lol
As for the final antagonists, I felt like that's obvious. Damage Control or at least its most zealously prejudicial agents coming after Kamala and Kamran. And we have to see how well Kamran takes the news of his mother's death because he's either going to be a defend mission or a sudden threat.
It’s really only WandaVision & MoonKnight that the second to last episode is the origin story. Hardly a pattern.
You watch, episode 6 is gonna simply be Kamala putting together her outfit and saving kamran and Bruno then Kamala says “peace I’m out, see you in The Marvels.” 😅😂🤦♂️
I seriously don't understand nor comprehend the hate for this episode and show as a whole. I really don't.
Ending scene notwithstanding, this is once again another phenomenal episode.
Honestly, this has been a truly wonderful experience.
I cannot wait for the finale!
"You got me straight trippin' boo."
Have you guys tried keema naan bread yet? It's amazing. Did it in any curry and it's a good time.
Solid episode…just don’t know where they go from here. Rumor from what I hear is a reliable source says Kamran will be a villain in the last episode, but early promo clips show them fighting together so not sure about that. I’m guessing if anything he finds out his mother is dead and initially blames it on Kamala.
The DODC has been so incompetent, but it appears they’ll be the final antagonists with I’m guessing some set up for The Marvels. Maybe a visit from Carol or Monica.
I’ve been really enjoying the show but to be honest this episode was very odd to me. The backstory with Aisha was great but the whole Kamala going back in time to save her own grandma, Najma having a complete change in motivation out of no where, Kamran getting his powers and the way the episode ended felt really rushed and didn’t make a whole lot of sense. Hopefully the finale is better and sticks the landing
Knowing the path Kamran takes in the comics, I'm not sure Najma had altruistic intentions when she sacrificed herself tbh
Yeah, this is where the show went off the rails. Really enjoyable 4 episodes but it really doesn't stick the landing.
As an American who is a generation ahead of you, everything I know about The Partition I learned from the movie "Gandhi" the 1982 movie starring Ben Kinsgley. (Yay, history!)
The editing and pacing of these last 2 episodes has been weird. Agreed with you guys that the pacing of this series has been a little weird. Hopefully episode 6 will bring it all home.
I think they just have so much to say and are trying to get it all together In these 6 episodes cause they might not get renewed for season 2
I have not watched Ghandi but I have heard it is about Ghandi's efforts to bring India to independence. I did watch a little bit of Jinnah in which Christopher Lee played Mohammad Ali Jinnah. I remember I was really saddened to see the trains return with dead bodies and blood everywhere inside.
@@faisalakhtar3394 Gandhi struggled for indian Independence where as M. Ali Jinnah Struggled for Pakistan's Independence!
Damage Control is gonna be on their bullshit, so S.W.O.R.D. Carol and Fury, is gonna put them in their place and recruit Ms. Marvel.
Maybe the final episode sets up a season2??
You should react to the Avengers cruise video with Paul and Evangeline. I saw it on TH-cam last night. Kamala is in it with her whole outfit!
When are we getting a fix it shirt?