Magnus Carlsen vs Alisher Suleymenov FULL GAME | Qatar Masters 2023
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ต.ค. 2023
- The last time Magnus Carlsen lost to player rated around 2500 Elo was back in 2006 when he was just 16 years old. That's 17 years ago! In round 2 of the Qatar Masters Open 2023, Magnus not just lost his game to the 23-year-old Kazakh GM Alisher Suleymenov, but was completely smoked from the board. Check out this game along with the commentary of IM Sagar Shah to understand how exactly a player with a rating of nearly 300 points below Magnus could outwit him so thoroughly.
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I love these full game videos with no commentary! Thank you for posting this!
Yeah otherwise ..H3,F5...it goes till an era
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This is simply lost for carlsen ,Qb3 was excellent move ,his total intention to give nf7 sacrifice he was prepared for that and carlsen was totally neglected that sacrifice.
It was part of preparation for nf7
If we see carlsen game towards the queenside and
Sulemynov attack shifted from centre to kingside.
Guys there is no cheating he is above 2500.
Well done , 💐
People are just being ridiculous at this point. Anyone can have a bad game. Similarly someone can have a brilliant game as well. It's not within the spirit of the game to give remarks that overshadow a young man's effort.
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Alisher it is a great game from you lots of love from uzbekistan❤❤❤❤
Esta clase de videos deberían de ser más comunes, la partida completa sin hablar nadie para que los propios jugadores seamos capaces de pensar por nosotros mismos.
tal cual!, ahora entiendo todo lo que se dijo después y puedo darle un sentido mas objetivo a las opiniones que se dicen por ahí. este GM tenía un tic y obsesión con ese reloj, es raro, igualmente no prueba nada pero por prevención no deberían dejar que ningun jugador tenga ningún accesorio ni reloj, ni anillos, ni pulseras, nada. que sea en igualdad de condiciones para que el juego sea lo mas transparente posible.
@@profealejo5943Carlsen debe tener Trastorno obsesivo-compulsivo.
sIIII Coincido!
Amazing ChessBase India provides such a view of the whole game, no sound. Beautiful!
Just watched the full video..Cinematography at its best,Direction at its peak.This is the type of video I wanted to watch after paying my internet bills.Climax at the end was unexpected😮👑❣
Ok bro😂😂 in 6 minutes u watched entire episode 👌👌 Legends
Full video? It’s more than 2 hours long and you watched the entire thing!? 😅
yeah every second of it was the best. I watched with engine analysis on the side move by move to see the expressions.
@@shanepillay8643a man of culture i see
switch off the Audio, genius
Can you post more often full games i love it. Not those streamed with commentaries but these without it. A smaller board in one of the corners would make it perfect.
And it would be more comfortable for us to see the time spent by the players
No you must learn to see the chess board in 3D from 1 meter away, from any yaw angle, not just 2D perfect vertical angle.
Suleymenov dressed up in his best attire for his game against Carlsen only to be publicly called out by Carlsen for his “dressing sense” - how dare you wear an analog watch! 😅
Why was he pulling up his sleeves and adjusting his watch throughout the entire game?
Это нервное у него. Заметьте, он все время что-то поправлял, часы, браслет, волосы, рукава, такое бывает когда очень напряжение, поэтому думаю, что это его привычка все время что-то поправлять
@@aqeiwwrgunaug4ne3 Nervousitiy? Would you not be nervous playing against world best chess player and having a winning position?
Next time, Carlsen should attend with his Hello Kitty watch.
Bien por Suleymenov...Carlsen siempre tiene el feo gesto de no dar en mano a su oponente la tablilla para firmar, y hablar del reloj o de la indumentaria de tu contrincante cuando te gana demuestra que eres un inmaduro y no sabes reconocer tu derrota.
Rule no. 1 of chess - NEVER UNDERESTIMATE YOUR OPPONENT
Интересно.)они на вогзале играют?) сорказм конечно 😅
Sagar is testing our patience level😂
This is what happens when someone previously cheats on you (even in a game) - you just lose your trust and start doubting everyone. Even a rope looks like a rattle snake
people love the idea of "innocent until proven guilty" but not in chess
hypocrisy 😍😍😍
No one has cheated on him before, he is just a sore loser accusing people of cheating without having any reasonable evidence, there is no way to justify his childish actions
@@omarabukharoob9313 correctly said, wasted hans's career earlier, and now indirectly Accusing this guy of cheating, i know he is the chess god but if you cant accept your defeat then whats the point of being the BEST?
@@arpanbordia4741 @omarabukharoob9313 nobody would ever react like that to the loss vs Hans, if the guy wasn't caught cheating repeatedly.
Yeah Hans cheating otb caused people to doubt even watches.
This Suleymenov has best poker face i have ever seen
Nobody told Magnus to put his queen in the worst square. He paid for it. No cheating just beating
It's not even just the watch. Look at those people walking around with their smartphones. You can just open stockfish on your phone and signal around using your legs, the player doesn't even have to look away. He also addressed that transmission has no delay. This what frustrates him, the officials don't take anti-cheat seriously despite the previous controversy!
Do you think Magnus would have tweeted about all this if he humiliated his opponent the way his opponent humiliated him ?
@@ohk3770 Do you think if Magnus hadn't tweeted that, it would have been wrong?
@@ohk3770 Maybe he will maybe he won't. Though he should've said that before the match or in the first round but I totally agree with him with regards to smartphone. The remark about the watch however is just bad especially how he mentions it only after he lost. Now not only people call him a sore loser but this controversy overshadowed Suleymenov's victory. Regardless there will be people on both sides of the fence, those who see Magnus as a passionate player who wants to protect the integrity of the tournament or those who view him as a sore loser who makes excuses for his humiliating defeat.
@@ohk3770 Ofc not. I find it very unlikely that someone who just got crushed cheated, I don't see your point. You complain if you suspect something, else you don't.
@@ohk3770no, because if you beat someone badly, it's obvious they didn't cheat so why would he do that
Chess is a very difficult game. Occasionally even the best get torn to shreds. In games with 300 point difference the lower rated player statistically wins about 1 out of 20 or 30. When I was an 1800=1900 tournament player I had some high 2100 scalps. In any event young 2500 GMs are capable of playing to well. I think part of what happened is that Magnus played too provocatively to avoid drawing a lower rated player. It happens.
A excessiva confiança de Magnus Carlsen cobrou o seu preço. Mas é preciso reconhecer que Alisher Suleymenov jogou muito bem e não se intimidou com a fama do adversário.
Alisher Suleymenov played his role as a chess player very well... One thing let him down, the instant reaction to the move Bd5??? He could not have seen this position better than Magnus, since any grand, realizing that this is a fatal mistake, will not rush! Cheater...
After Magnus lose to 2500 now I think I can beat him as well. BTW im 300 elo
sure, go for it xD
wow qué bien lo encerró! desde la mitad del juego planteó ese ataque.
Magnus always accuse players for cheating when he lose😂
neimann was legit but this guy made 100% moves of computer not also 1 single move that was not best move of alpha zero
@@francescosorgi6633 Suleymenov remains a grandmaster. Consequently, he ranks among the 1500 best players in the world. None of his moves seem elusive for someone of his caliber. In this game, it was Carlsen who was playing below his usual standard. Had he been in top form, he would have had no difficulty holding his opponent at bay.
Amazing game!
Alisher destroyed Magnus playing a game full of Morphy-like tactics.
Asalkan anda tau aku yang mengajarinya
It looks like a roman army progression, the second move by Alisher two pawns in the center of the table sets up a strangle if not quickly counter attacked. But Magnus remained ignored it and let the strangle progress until alisher had too many pawns passed the center line. I think when anybody moves two center pawn +2 at beginning of the game (whatever opening that is called) you have deny that progress immediately or you end up backed against the back wall, which is what happened to Magnus. It's a rookie mistake by the world champion.
I don’t understand why people are not worried about Carlsens concern which feels so genuine? I mean it would literally be so easy to cheat with that
I think the main problem is that he speaks out about it only after losing. I find the concern legit, just the timing 'unfortunate'
@@johart309 Why timing matters so much? I haven't really caught that Magnus implied Alisher to be cheating
Carlsen was more worried about the opponent's watch than the game😂
Maybe that watch was hiding a very sophisticated cheating system 😉
I wonder what a black thing is in Alisher's left ear?
You watch way to many movies @@eduardo-21
not at all. I think Alisher was more determined to win.
it was gold dust@@yuridenisov4751
I've become a fan of Alisher from this game. His calm peaceful demeanor, his politeness and his super GM chess game.
U know it’s bout to go down when magnus brings TWO bottles of water
Carlsen could simply kindly ask his opponent to remove the watch in a very moment when he spotted it. Proactive and assertive communication. Commenting it and emphasising the possibility of cheating AFTER his lost game is too late and it potentially degrades the victory and image of his oponent in the eyes of many.
The watch might be able to transmit winning moves and/or high frequencies or vibrations directly through the wrist. The Russians searched for an electronic device after Fischer beat Spassky. And the KGB used psychics and spies to battle against Korchnoi in his match against Karpov. 😮
@@insaneyoungster6223 As an engineer is it technically possible but more likely the young fellow is just proud of his first classy watch and developed tics like touching and adjusting it around his wrist which is what young men his age do, and i fondly remember doing the same thing when i had a new watch i liked. The poor fellow is getting wrongly accused just for liking his watch. which by the way does look sharp and nice.
To think somebody is cheating on you just for wearing a watch is ridiculous. Magnus' worst problem is he thinks too highly of himself and tends to belittle his rivals all the time, so he can't accept that somebody at certain point can beat him. By the way, can anyone explain to me what is that connection in the base of the chessboard for?
Moves are electronically recorded.
You put something in it that vibrated when given a signal. You have someone watching the game send that signal when there is a tactic in the position.
This is how chess videos should be. No commentators. It makes us think on our own terms.
No se si hizo trampas su rival pero la actitud de Carlsen durante el juego y cuando terminó la partida deja mucho que desear.
Hay valores como la humildad, la paciencia y la disciplina que deben acompañar a todo maestro de Ajedrez, dando por hecho la honestidad, la concordia y el buen trato.
It hurts when you lose a game like that
Seguramente quería que carlsen le llevara mariachi a suleymenov, verdad sinmonasterio9357, haaa y una torta con refresco😅😅😅
This guy has a watch, a bracelet and a ring. Combined this could send some kind of morse code
To be honest I don‘t know why people make so much fun about Magnus‘ claims that his opponent was cheating. It‘s fair to say that all those accessories can be equipped with little devices that can send some sort of signal. Especially he acts very suspiciously when he checks his position of the watch and bracelet every couple of seconds (especially right before the match starts). I wear watches and bracelets daily and never adjust them this often.
@@ToxondomoThe playing conditions were worse the first day. There were even fans with smartphones spectating. The second day only the media and camera men were allowed.
But of course, Magnus didn't say anything because he won.
Please correct me if anything I said was wrong. Thanks.
@@Toxondomo Correct. The weird unknown GM also looks like a Bond villain
2:46:59 Notice how everybody backed off a little bit after magnus looked that way
Because he will complain saying they distracted him
Did you watch the whole 3 hours?
I think, Magnus totally overreacted with his quite direct accusations. In this game, he made several grave mistakes really very below his common playing standards. Alisher played really well but it was not out of this world. The sacrifices were not too magical and don't forget, that he's very young and his current ELO maybe not fully representative for his actual strength.
But on the other side, I generally understand Magnus' anger a bit about the fact, that the watch itself was allowed at all. I do not really know any current professional chess tournament, where this is allowed anymore. And by the way: Qatar, a recomendable place for lived human rights...
I think the biggest mistake is not to have immediately checked Alisher double pawns +2 opening. If you don't immediately counter those two first move it becomes like a press forward. That opening also forces the opponent into a game you have prepared in advance but Magnus did not respect the power of that opening and paid the price.
Magnus runs many times here. Is it possible at such events? Where does he run? Can he be told?
What does the watch have to do with cheating? Can anyone explain to me?
1:46:05 Is that a signal to someone who is watching the live stream?
Some guy is gonna calculate the amount of times he touched his watch and say he is cheating or some shit bro
Ok he touched his analog clock several times but didn't look at it even once during the game and how could he cheat using an ordinary analog watch, I don't understand how stupid people try to justify Carlsen's childish actions with some shit like this
@@omarabukharoob9313 Lo tocó 363 veces.😅
@@omarabukharoob9313
You put something in it that vibrated when given a signal. You have someone watching the game send that signal when there is a tactic in the position.
@@omarabukharoob9313 Carlsen did act childish. He basically said in a sugar coated way, 'I think cheating was going on.'
Now cheaters are really good at it most of the times. Like if you go to a poker table in a casino and think you are sitting with a fair table, but there is a team at that table that acts like they don't know each other, and they know exactly how to move their cards, tap their chips, sigh, etc, all kinds of codes that they've practiced just to win your money, that sucks.
However, if Carlsen thinks there was cheating, he could have went at it in a more mature and diplomatic way, under the scenes, talking to the proper people, without blasting it on social media.
It seems Carlsen has essentially made a claim of cheating and know he has adopted the burden of proof.
Until such evidence of cheating is presented, I'm going to call it a fair game.
Haha, bill gates has cheaped his brain, now he is cheater. Hey magnus, not only cause of the watch on your opponent, you still the best.
You need to put the center board ,so the moves can be seen.
Amazing
It's true that magnus totally accepts that the opponent played an amazing game and won fairly but the point is following the rules and more importantly if Magnus pointed that out and even told the Arbiter, Alisher could have just removed the watch and worn it back after the game. You can't blame either of them completely but yeah it might impact on how Alisher would be treated after this and Magnus Should have been careful of that.
Tweeting just after a humiliating defeat doesnt sit good in favor of Magnus. It just shows him as a sore loser.
@@ohk3770I think Magnus was in a poor mental shape, it looks like he's struggling to remember how to write down the notation in the beginning. Also I don't really think there is any subtext about cheating in the Mangus' tweet.
Alisher didn't broke any rule. You can see in the video that he's wearing a normal wristwatch and not a smartwatch.
@@lubelle9447 do you know which model Is it?
You're not allowed to wear ANY kind of watch.. touch up on the rules@@lubelle9447
Os sacrifícios de Alisher mais a sua confiança o lançaram em uma ótima posição.
I have a smart watch that is analog on the outside and vibrates when i receive phone msgs or one click i can send photo to my phone
Алға 🇰🇿
What a nice game as long as it's without any help...lol Keeping my fingers crossed!
Al parecer nunca habia usado un reloj, en cada momento lo toca, lo siente raro, no es común de hacer por alguien que siempre a usado, es más debe pasar por desapercibido su propio reloj, como si no lo tuvieron. Hasta yo pensaria lo mismo.
Is this the way it is with most players ? No words at all . No go game, that was fun or no talking about the game at all just up and leave without saying a word ? If I was the best chess player in the world and I got beat by a lower ranking player I would at least say wow great game lets play again sometime . You did really good keep up the good work . This was probably the most exciting thing that has happened to the younger guy and for the other player to just get up and leave . I hope not everyone is like this after a GAME .
Why bother you see that's quatar bilioniers watching you play maybe betting money too guy with a watch and headphones is not normal in chess tournament of course Magnus made mistakes but he has right to be suspicious about this .
no headphones you are delirious @@sHaterred-vh7cs
If you underestimate a GM, even if you're Magnus Carlsen, you will get beat! There's no need for cheating
This young player is simply a Genious...Wow !
Гений читерства!!!!
Suleymenovs knight sacrafice was beginning of the end for Carlsen. Great move
I'd say, Magnus made a blunder much earlier right at the beginning of the game by letting Alisher open up with two center pawns +2 without checking and breaking that. That opening generally leads to a morphy progressing like an army in line if none of the two center pawns is taken soon after, which is exactly what happened, Magnus did not respect the power of that opening and got strangled. It's easy to defend at the beginning but if let to progress it sets a whole dominance on the chessboard.
Очень он нежно теребит свои часы!!!! Очень подозрительно. Читирил 100%
I like to see di game..👍☺️
I am surprised that Magnus said in an interview that he is not a patient person as regards to choosing shower or bath he always shower as he cannot wait for a tub to fill. He looks incredibly patient when playing.
why he always fix his watch?at .30 and 3:18....stockfish on?or a real genuis....i dont know...its you to decide....
Can someone please explain to me the move made at 1:11.42?
The castling?
Por que cuando No gana se enojan y se van sin ordenar las piezas? 😂 Donde queda el espíritu deportivo?
What a beautiful wristwatch ! And what about the electronic bracelet?
Where he touched/reset his watch:
0:28
0:37
3:14
3:43
4:29
1:09:12
2:24:25
2:26:10
I watched just ~10 minutes at the end, if you notice more times let me know in the comments so I can update the times and we could start a conspiracy.
Its a leather watch it gets sweaty and sticky thus annoying so you have to adjust it.
4:29 extremadamente sospechoso
Its a goddamn mechanical watch. Magnus just got his ass kicked. period.
@@allen0neil142it is the 3rd move!! come on...
Ese reloj no debería estar permitido, claramente se ve que lo mueve mucho y que esta nervioso por tenerlo, las manos deberían estar libres, no hay motivo para tener un reloj en la partida pues la partida ya cuenta con su propio reloj.
what is that cable connected to the chess board ? what is its function
Permite la distribución en tiempo real a varios departamentos y trasmitir por Internet.
En la sala hay pantallas gigantes con varias partidas en vivo.
@@sinmonasterio9357 oh okok , Gracias :)
36:21 clock sound ?
Exactly
nice watch
even the King can be played off...d4 turned out somewhat like Sicilian Maroczy bind😊👍👍👍
2:21:21 kxf7
2:21:11 if you are here after magnus tweets
Everyone thought Magnus’ game was lost until his most brilliant play ever… Magnus moves his Queen back and forth between 2:38:06 and 2:38:26 in the video😂
где доска ???
the watch speaks for itself. :)
😂
selamat buat Alisher Suleymenov Its wonderfull game
The first part of the game was like non contact karate.
Excelente
Someone should count the number of times he adjusted that watch. Also why is there a gap between the watch and his hand?
i did the same thing with my fist classy wrist watch when i was his age. No big deal. Same thing with running your hand through your hair. Young men do that, they are self conscious and like the confidence a nice accessory give them. But it's true you will not see older men doing that. Normal.
I love that some of the commenters here are being paranoid if MC's opponents does something (like holding his watch, speaking Norwegian, etc.). As if an analog watch could help you win games. Haha
0:00: Глядя на этот ролик сложно отказаться от мысли, навеянной какой-то антрополгической теорией, что скандинавы происходят от тюрок и угрофиннов.
Ведь действительно, как показали археологические находки в Альпах, первые европейцы мало чем отличались по своей внешности от африкснцев. Цвет кожи, волос, глаз скандинавы и славяне, а потом и остальные европейцы, взяли от тюрок и угрофиннов. Немногое, что европейцы взяли от африканцев это курчавые волосы, рост и форму глаз, потому что климат Африки больше подходил для курчавости, роста и, в особенности, для таких красивых глаз, чем суровый евразийский климат. Если бы в первобытности тюрки и угррфинны имели такие же глаза, как у африканцев, то в момент утреннего нападения хищника они не смогли бы быстро открыть их из-за того, что смёрзшиеся ресницы не дали бы это вовремя сделать.
that kid sure was checking his "watch" a lot ...
Carlsen played this game very passively right from the getgo. Very untypical. But hey, he does not have anything to prove being that has accomplished so much in his career thus far.
I completely agree. And that was fatal because some openings like the double pawn +2 cannot be passively defended they have to be immediately checked and broken. Magnus didn't and soon found himself against the wall.
How to wash very large carpet?
El jeque árabe moviendo la primera pieza... 😅
New champion has awaken
Well done
Obviously a watch could be a disguised computer even though it looks like an old school watch
Brutal. Guy played a great game.
Читер однозначно! Надо было Магнусу ему по башке дать ! По Высоцкому ….. справа в челюсть вроде рановато……
2:35:50 what was that?
There was something wierd with the Alisher's wrist watch on this game!
Si eres el mejor tienes que ganar de cualquier manera eres un guerrero y en ajedrez no es solo la mente el cuerpo vale tiennes que estar bien entrenado y en una guerra el fisico vale y lo principal no subestimar a tu rival el reloj es lo de menos el subestimo a su rival y pago cara su derrota...!!!😊😊
الابيض لعب باسلوب مركزي عميق هو تماما اسلوب ميخائيل بوتفنيك،
Can anyone explain the point of Ba6 Bb7 in the opening by black? Since Qc2 is a move white often makes in these structures anyway it just seems that provoking Qc2 (or e3, also in order to defend the c4 pawn) was simply a loss of tempo
The Clock in the other Side please!!
Can someone explain to me why at the end of the game they position their pieces back in original position except for the Kings !!
They put the Kings onto 2 of the 4 central squares, indicating who won the game. eg if they are both on white squares than white won the game. I suppose it makes things clearer for the scorekeepers.
@@ZeroGravityDog Thank you for the explanation. Also could you tell why the looser does not tip over his king ? Maybe that is only something i remember from old movies when checkmated.
@@ericastier1646 ningún jugador profesional vuelca su rey además esas piezas cuestan 10 veces mi sueldo
But there was still a game here. Magnus could have opened a knite so that a castle can protect the bishop that when queen takes its a mate. Still queen could have protected the spot that knote was to check at
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I wd like to have that watch so that i can defeat Carlsen.
It will be auctioned for a couple of millions $.
Why didn't they show the game on a separate board like they usually do?
Great but you cannot see well the pieces better a little chessboard on the side
Alisher touched 30 times his clock! Come on!
and i did the exact same thing when i was around his age with my first nice wrist watch. It's normal when you like it, it makes you feel great to wear it and you cajole and touch it for the joy of it.
Я очень рад за Алишера 🎉🎉🎉
That watch of Suleymenov can go for millions if auctioned
🤣😂😂 That is an hilarious comment. Bravo. But Suleymenov is so intelligent he knew that will happen and planned to get that auction extra money in advance knowing he would get accused. hahaha
I love chess, i love Magnus Carlsen and Alisher Suleymenov
Mistrzowie,moze cos na ochote i chec do gry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Viral move
As an arbiter I would’ve investigated white after the 3rd time suspiciously playing around with his sleeves. Please take note contrary to Magnus he didn’t ever take off his suit jacket despite of the hot conditions, instead he kept interacting with something in his sleeves. The world champ rightfully sus.
Big Respect for this Undedog Victory