Can Jumbo Grips Improve Your Consistency? // JumboMax UltraLite Grip Review
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- Testing the JumboMax UltraLite Medium and XL models to see how they compare to conventional grips.
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Love the little cutaway showing the grip change and swing weight check. I'd like to see more club building related stuff.
yea the cinematography on that cutaway was pretty sick
same here, always been a tech 🤓
Additional cameras and angles are awesome.
One of my favorite additions to the recent videos. Little behind the scenes feel.
woah, i cant stress enough how awesome the behind the scenes shots for the club tinkering were. really hope we see more of those in future videos.
Don't underestimate the grip! Same results I got from putting the medium on my driver. Unusually straight for me. Was odd playing from so many fairways.
Absolutely love the new camera stuff where we can see a little bit more!
So definitely need to see how this Jumbo series effects the ball flight on Fairways/Drivers!!
Ross Danaher I have jumbo golf pride Grips on my irons and love them. Tried them on my driver and fairways and it was a disaster. Not sure why but I think because the grips are so much heavier that they really throw the weight off on a longer lighter club. Curious how these lighter ones would perform.
PLEASE DO THE DRIVER!!!!!
@kourt you could do the the ultralite maybe
Maybe you can get a tester in there who has extra large size gloves like myself. I think it may help us better
I use JumboMax Ultralite grips (small) and absolutely love the feel. Ball striking has become more consistent as well, from driver to wedges.
As other people have mentioned, it would nice to see this test done on fairway woods and drivers :) I can't remember seeing other people doing so in depth tests, it is truly amazing content you have on your channel.
Sooo I switched to the jumbomax xl tour wraps about a month ago (before bryson won btw) because I have a larger hand, XXL gloves, im built like a line backer (6'3" 310lbs). I had the issue that the grips I played before (lamkin crossline jumbo with 5 wraps) my fingers touched my palm and I had the issue of inconsistently spaying the ball. Since I've switched to the jumbomax grips, it's completely changed my game for the better, I've dropped 10 to 15 strokes per round due to consistency. So in my eyes, totally worth it if you have large hands!
I have large hands and original Jumbo Max were HEAVY... Killed swing weight... So glad to see today's video. I'm ordering them now.
I’ve noticed over the last month or so you guys have experimented with using different camera angles and seemingly higher camera quality. It really looks good
Ian please revisit this test.
There's multiple sizes and weights available now and videos showing that some golfers gain or lose lag with the swing weight changes, some actually for the better with a much lighter swing weight 👍
That behind the scenes to the build camera shot was SO COOL
Drop one of these on your pitching or gap wedge and you'll never go back. Grip one of these with a 5 finger or "Baseball" grip and watch the smile creep over your face. Love them, love them! Much easier on the hands as well.
I am fodder, was wondering about that. I use a large sized glove so...yeah it kinda makes sense. Used to regroup my own clubs and the ultra lights didn't exist then. It really did mess up the swing weights as I recall. So this is exciting to not have to worry about that.
Absolutely. I’m hitting every green 120-145 yards with my wedge now, not even a problem!
I bought a slightly used set of Srixon Z585 irons with jumbo grips with the intent to replace them with smaller grips. I took the clubs to the range and thought I try them before hand. They worked exactly like you described in your video. I have no intention of changing grips. Straight, longer, and less wear on my hands. They work.
I changed my grips 3 weeks ago to Golf Pride CP2 Jumbo oversize and they have helped reduce my hook. I found the JumboMax Ultralites to be expensive with the Canada/US exchange rate and shipping. The new camera angles are great.
I am 6'3" and wear an XL glove. I switched to the JumboMax XL over the past month, and have picked up 20 metres distance per club. I would never go back to the mid sized golf grips. It's like a new game for me now. I never knew there were bigger grips until I read about Bryson. I emailed a supplier here and confirmed what he was using and ordered a set. I think for me, I am finally in the correct sized grip for my hands. I have never hit the ball more consistently or been more satisfied driving home from the golf course. I would like you guys to fit a high handicapper to the right sized Jumbo grip, and see what that does for their dispersion and length. I suspect you will see some interesting results. Love the channel.
I just saw an ad for these on Facebook the other day and thought I wonder if these actually work.
TXG coming in clutch haha!
I love these grips changed my entire set too the medium jumbo max because of Bryson. Played baseball and the thicker handle was always more comfortable for me. Now I feel comfortable swinging the club with minimal grip pressure. Glad you did this review no one else on TH-cam has done it.
what gloves size do you wear and how do you like the Mid sized grips after a few years (if you still use them) ?
I just changed my grips to Jumbomax Ultralite M and absolutely love them. You can really feel the face being maintained square for a longer period from the downswing to impact.
As I only played two rounds with them I still do push the ball occasionally, but even this is a welcomed change for me because all my miss before the grip change were pull and hooks.
Thanks for the great video as always, and also for verifying that my impression wasn't just placebo.
Regardless of the outcome, I'm just envious of how consistent Matt is with his swing... Like a freaking robot 🤣 He's the ultimate test bed.
Also I want to try this - my miss ranges from a hard draw to snap hook. Good shots have just a baby draw. Currently playing standard MCC +4 and wear a medium glove, so the results here are definitely interesting 👍
OMG the walk through the shop for the grip change! You guys are always looking to improve, that is why you are and will remain the best.
Switched to the jumbomax ultralight a few months ago. It really helped prevent my left miss and strike the ball more consistently. There's also an added bonus of making the club feel more like a hockey stick. As a lifelong hockey player that is awesome.
My gosh boys, the production value of handheld/follow cam looks great. Grading, color profile, and lighting are a bit of a jarring change (almost seems more cinematic than the harsher lighting of the bay) but still great production value, different POV, showing more of the process and more of your personalities too. Keep up the awesome work!
I love the walking through the office and changing the clubs!
This kind of thing is what my recent club fitting was missing (not with TXG obviously)... I was almost there and just needed some small adjustments to make the club feel like I was about to buy something better than what I already had. A BIG part of this was the grip. I have a L to XL hand size, and the standard grips feel like I'm holding a pencil. A few years ago I switched over to Tour Wrap Midsize on almost everything and they feel great, but my fitter didn't have options like this. Great work as usual
I've had them for 2 years now and love them. I squeeze into a large glove and struggled to get comfortable with a standard grip. Now I focus more on the shot and don't even think about the grip anymore. Saves me a handful of shots per round.
I’ve been doing grip size fittings for years as a swing coach. I see a number of changes take place. Swing speed gets faster with the right one. Dynamic loft tends to decrease as the grip gets bigger until it’s to big. Path tends to work more left for a right hander as it goes up in size.
Wow eye opening video for me I never thought about changing grip size deff worth a shot! Thanks! Also I know Matt’s a humble guy but it would be cool to see like a 5-10 min video of him working on his new drills hitting shots and talking us through it, we’d all take that swing in a heartbeat 👍
Great grips. I went with the mediums this season. Handicap down from a 5 to a 1.8. Hooks are gone but so is all my hand and arm pain. I love them
Interesting, I fight hooks or over drawing and have the MCC Plus4 grips. What were you using before? I play off a similar handicap.
@@TheHalo14aus we are similar also - i switched to the Align MMC Midsized +4 and love them - start there 1st. I kept the Standard sized +4 on my 3 wood as I wanted to have a club that was my draw club off the tee but I'm switching it this week to midsized also because the Midsized just calms everything down a little. I wear a L glove and I'm thinking of even exploring the Jumbo grip on my wedges to make them even more exact but the swing weight thing was in my mind until I saw this video and the Superlights now being available (except the Smalls and Mids are sold out online) and this year I converted to not wearing a glove and the Align Midsized +4 have that little bit of cord that I love on my gloveless hands
I’ve always used standard lampkin grips but have big hands. Had a lot of hand and wrist pain so tried the medium jumbomax. Took two rounds to get used to them. Now I’m hitting lasers. Unless i really try to hit a hook (or forget to shift my weight), i hit a 3-5 yrd baby fade on everything. My fav shot shape. I don’t even think about it anymore. It just happens. So I’m a fam
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@@wallstreetoneil Appreciate the feedback - now to see if my local golf shop stocks these!
Love the new camera angles, very professional, and really cool to see a bit of the build shop
Great job guys! They have a jumbo max xs which is an eighth bigger than standard size. Might want to have Mattie hit that one since he is Medium in glove size.
The physics of larger diameter grips is pretty simple. They give the golpher more leverage on the shaft. Which translates to less twisting of the club face at impact and finer adjustment of face angles.
It's Gopher Carl, not Golfer.
@@stevef4010 Lmfao
This old vid popped up on my suggested playlist this morning, it was so good to see Matty hitting Balls👍
I hope that his recovery is going well and I'm sure that all the TXG community are looking forward to his return👍
I am one of the players Ian described who has a very neutral path and face in relation to path and I do see a very pronounced benefit to using a larger grip. It was a happy accident you could say. I tried the larger grips to see if the would help with injury issues in my hands and my typical dispersion reduced dramatically. The lighter swing weight didn’t phase me a bit either but I’ve always had the best success with heavy shafts so the extra weight in the rest of the club may have helped with that but I don’t know for sure. However I have noticed over the years that if the club is overall on the heavy side the a lighter “swing weight” doesn’t affect me much at all. I don’t know if this is normal or not but I’ve always found it interesting.
I just ordered a set of mediums. My ball shape is very neutral and if anything leans slightly more towards a fade. But for the most part a very straight flight, 2 handicap and I’ve always bounced around with grip size. Medium size grips are to heavy and I would have to add a ton of weight to the head, I’ve gone 4 wraps 3 wraps and am currently gaming 2 wraps with standard grips. I fight fave control a bit so feel like experimenting with these is a good little test. We shall see soon when they arrive and I slap them on. Love the videos guys, very good information y’all provide 👍🏻
Ian and Matt, a couple weeks back you both did a video on Bryson’s iron shafts. Ian made a comment that stated the shaft was used for Bryson so as to be so stiff that all deflection would be close to being eliminated. The assumption to this would be that the only variable would be the golfer and not equipment. So a coup,e questions come to mind... 1. What are the benefits / disadvantages of an overly stiff shaft compared to a “properly” fit shaft for a golfer’s swing? 2 Knowing high handicappers generally need help getting a ball airborne, and an assumption made that mid to mid/low handicaps can reliably get a ball airborne under normal conditions, would an overly stiff shaft for a persons swing be of consideration for someone looking to truly to eliminate variables that a “proper” fit shaft might cause? 3 What would testing of a mid to mid/low handicap’s swing, performance, and ball flight look like side by side using a very stiff and low torque iron shaft compared to a “proper” fit shaft for their iron swing? I guess the big question, if Bryson is doing it to eliminate equipment variation during a swing, would that thought process be of benefit to an average golfer that can reliably strike decently? Just thought this concept might be worth looking at for an average golfers perspective.
Definitely is something to it, as the late, fellow Canadian, greatest ball striker, Murray 'Moe' Norman figured all this out way back in the 1950s, all on his own! He used an oversized grip and he always talked about his swing being one of the only ones to swing through the course, vs. around the course as 99% seem to do, ie. keeping club head squarer far longer than most! He always said he felt as if he kept the face square for approx. 22 inches beyond the ball, he likely wasn't keeping it square that long, but he felt like he was! He also swung his clubs on plane with every club in his bag via his single plane swing! Yall should seriously dig into as much Moe Norman footage out here that you can! I have been and it's amazing at all he figured out and was able to do consistently, long, long before ANY of this modern technology was even thought about!
I have just put Jumbo grips on my irons after thirty years of playing. I use a 2xl glove. I'm now hitting the ball a lot straighter. I had standard grips before.. it seems to have worked for me
four strokes into the jumboMax … i am off to the golf store … hahahaha
I love mine! JumboMax Mediums.
@@TickleNation what's your hand size? tip of middle finger to bottom of palm
Andrew Nava 8.5” I had the XL’s but I found the mediums to feel better.
adding video of you going back into the build area is gold. Keep up the additional angles and footage.
I am most intrigued to see this with the driver. As someone who gets handsy with the big stick, this has me interested
To have access to larger grips that don’t weigh more than standard is HUGE! I’ve played the MCC + midsize but they messed up my swing weight so bad I had to take them off. My fingers dig into my palm on my left (lead) hand so I know larger grips will help a ton. Thanks!!
I asked this question a couple of months ago, Glad to see you guys testing it!
Wow! Great video!! Just stumbled upon your channel, and had to watch this. I've just been demoing the Ultralight grips for the last week or so, a LG. on my 7 iron and a MED. on my driver. I wear an XL glove, 1/4" long and 2* flat. I can tell you from my experience that I am for sure longer with both clubs, especially the 7. I've added at least 10-12 yards, consistently, with every shot I've made. I used to hit my 7 thin a lot. I haven't done that once with the Ultralight on there, and we're a whole lot of swings in now.
The driver has been interesting too. I took it to PGA Superstore and hit in the simulator to compare baseline numbers and with the Ultralight installed. Again, longer and less spin. I'm usually a 149-151ball speed, and around 2800-3000rpm. I'm high spin. With the Ultralight, I'm about 152-153mph ball speed and the spin has dropped to around 2500 consistently. I'm actually pretty surprised that these are working as they have. I was HIGHLY skeptical of these initially, because they just seem so counter to everything I've ever known. But, they work. I am about to replace all my grips. My standard grip is a midsize Golf Pride multi-compound with 4 additional wraps.
What size you end up going with?
@@jfranklin8190 ended up going with the Large. The XL just felt difficult for me to control. The Large is money though!
Love his swing. A lot of youtube pros promoting a simple compact swing technique without a lot of arm raising or wrist hinge... his swing is a great example of what can be achieved with a compact swing without a lot of moving parts.
I have large hands. I wear a XXL glove and im currently playing with golf pride tour velvet jumbo grips. Ive played with them for years and i really like them. This video has me thinking about trying the jumbo max xl.
the "NEW" camera work is fun and the content is great as usual!
Ok. Im a 10 with short swing and just did a screen capture of Matt’s swing and tried to mimic his tempo and pause at the top. Couldn’t believe how much straighter I hit it! Can’t copy Freddie for his tempo but can definitely copy Matt. Driver to irons it was so much straighter just a baby draw. Thanks Matt!
Love this video. I play these JumboMax in small on my irons. Really like them a lot. Seem to help square up the club. But have Always wondered if these scientifically add consistency. Would love to see a more in-depth video with irons & driver swings differences. More consistent squaring face? Tighter shot dispersions /accuracy? Straighter flight? More or less power? I think fitters should also pay some attention to grip as well. Anyways thanks gents
Really interesting, thanks. I've got large hands but with low volume. Pretty much the inverse to "Cadet" sizing. i.e. gloves that are a tight fit in length and breadth are not skin tight in palm area. I'm playing midsize reduced taper grips already, but this is definitely something to try.
I use Bionic gloves for my practice gloves. I recently purchased a black one - the white ones get quite filthy from my Tour Velvet grips. The black one turned out to be a bit different - called the Bionic Stable Grip. It has additional padding inside the glove in specific areas that has the effect of making the golf club grip feel larger in the gloved hand, like going from a std to mid-sized grip but only in the butt/upper section. It got me thinking - this might be a video idea for the lads. I wonder what difference a 'simple' glove change could make to your swing. You have synthetic vs different leathers (cabretta vs kangaroo, etc), wet weather vs dry weather, a pair vs single hand, and my new discovery - the padded Bionic vs this cabretta. Just a thought ...
Once again this video applies to my question of right handed lefty, the dominant hand,
and how it relates to the brain and club face
Actually Bryson does use the Ultrlight series XL grip. And they do work great for arthritic hands!
I went with a midsize grip recently and my only regret is that i didn't go jumbo. I have no clue why i didn't do this sooner. For me the control i gained in the club face was unbelievable.
I had a problem with my hands flipping at impact with my Driver, which as causing a snap hook. I was told to try Jumbomax grips to try to help with the problem. I’ve now been using Jumbomax for nearly a year now and I’m known as one of the straightest hitter with a Driver. I did tinker with different sizes. my glove size is XL, so I settled for the medium size one. These grips are brilliant for anyone with big hands. They’re also brilliant if you have a tendency to flip the club at impact.
Cinematography jumped leaps and bounds here fellas. Well done to you and your crew. Vids have always been quality, now they're cinematic.
Guys i LOVED to see the backstage and the club building! You could do it more often
This guys accuracy is terrible. Maybe get an actual ball striker in there. 8 inches offline at 190 yards?? Pathetic.
Lmao!
He had us in the first half...
Literally the funniest comment I've ever read on youtube. I was like, damn, he's going IN... wait... Lmao.
🙄🤣
He even paused his swing @ 3:59 to insert an excuse for being a little off today.
I know it has been two years since this video came out but I am just seeing it now. From Matt's comments, I think he should try the "small" size which is just a bit smaller than the medium. Still impressed by how straight he was hitting them!!!
Tried a trial pack of Jumbomax grips. Was surprised by results. Static weight of club went up but as expected, swing weight went down. Drives went straighter and with ease. Irons flew higher but very straight as well. I think the swing weight concept is over emphasized...may need to rethink it a bit. Even with the heavier “tour” version of grips (low swing weight), the club performs better all around with these grips. Thanks for the introduction! And think about “swing weight”...it’s only a relational concept, not an indication of actual club weight.
Ha! Just had this installed on my driver today! Excited to try it and see how it goes.
Loved this guys.... Bought my two sizes of jumbo maxes in 2017.......didn't have time to test. Cheers for your proofing...
Great video gentlemen! Great concept! I loved the camera work in this one and the fact the we got to see the workshop.
I usually play jumbo grips in my wedges and oversized in my irons. It definitely helps with my consistency. I just down sized from jumbo to tour standard on my driver as i was not getting the face to close.
I think Matty needs to try them on the course, the Ultralite mediums
Phil Harrison I play them and love them. Really good grip
I just had Golf Pride cp2 red jumbo grips put on my irons. I do have a larger hands and on the simulator I was crushing the ball pretty good with them now I just need to go on the course and see how different they are but I feel like the bigger grip is helping me hold on to the club much better now
I like how nuetral you both stayed during this interview.... Very imformative...I am going to try these..
These videos are kinda like asmr but way more interesting. Every time matt hits a shot, there are sounds of shuffle and breathing and it’s like asmr lmao
I don’t know about anyone else but Matt’s swing looks so much more comfortable and controllable when he shortens up like that
I have a Lamkin oversize grip with 5 wraps under it on my driver.... absolutely love it 😍 .... it alleviates arthritic pain in my knuckles as well ☺️..... Am a lefty that wears a XXL glove 🧤.... Looking at getting the rest of the set done now
I use a full set of the JumboMax Tour Series at 105g per grip.
It’s the most comfortable grip I’ve ever used and does not result in any wayward flight. The wayward stuff is due to me.
The general rule of thumb with finding your correct grip size for Jumbomax grips is to pick the grip size down from your glove size. (ie. XL glove try out a Large grip). I’ve been using Jumbomax grips for just over a year now. They do make the swing feel a bit bit dead with less fell, but they have helped me to eliminate me ‘Flipping’ the club at impact.
I’ve just change to the ultra lite about a month ago and I get more feel on where the head is on the club when swinging. I’ve also increased my swing speed due to less weight.
I think that most people don’t or won’t use this grip due to being ridiculed ‘like I was’ for breaking with using ‘Traditional’ grips.
My answer to these people was, “if you’re so worried about people breaking tradition, why are you not playing with Hickory Shafted clubs!,’ that normally shuts them up!! 😂😂😂
Always enjoy the content. The walk over and production use of the additional trailing camera is a really nice touch. Typically that happens off camera and is a cut it. The continuation of the conversation and work being done at the same time was a really nice touch. "Walks away to order jumbo grips..."
Seen it for a few vids now... extra handheld camera angle is so good... LIttle adjustments and additions can really bring up the production value.. kudos Matty
I just ordered some for my new irons. Fortunately they offer a 60 day return so I’m going to try it out on my 6 iron and see how it goes. Excited to really give it a go.
I threw a JumboMax super oversize wrap grip on my driver when pga came back and I've been loving it. Feels like a have more feel and control with what my hands are doing because I'm not squeezing much.
Loving the DTL view of Mattyboys swing, taking a deep dive into how he does it!
I put a 2.0 size super stroke putter grip with the flat side up on my driver (44-inch shaft) and it has made the game so much funnier as I hit most fairways now.
You guys are absolutely slaying it, Loving you content at the moment, it's what I wish I could do with my channel! For now I'll do my best reviewing golf shoes and tech from my average golfer's perspective!... and the little walk away section was nicely done :)
The shots of you guys working in the shop-just epic lol. Such quality. Great job, Matt.
I used these after breaking my left hand, wow did they help, really sit in your hands, and the material they are made of, is far "grippier" than any golf pride grip. Genuinely felt like I could hit the ball a bit harder. For the non pro's among us, I actually missed right a lot after fitting these grips, but once you get used to them, they do seem to help you shoot straighter. Would recommend
TXG is always the first and always the best.
Fantastic video. Looking to test these out this week.
love the str8 tech Jumbomax grips. I started playing around 3 yrs ago so I don't consider myself a purist by any means. I'm willing to try things that are not conventional in the golf world. I bought a few grips to try (tapered and non tapered version) and I loved them, but especially the non tapered version (str8tech) Something that people should know is that the tapered version of the Jumbomax grip (similar to the one they tried here) has a bigger diameter in the butt of the grip than the str8 tech even if they're both listed as the same size. For me that made quite a bit of difference because I was missing right a lot with the tapered, but with the non-tapered version (str8tech) it's always straight! (no pun intended). I only have it in one club right now (PW) and it's the club that I feel most confident hitting. Looking forward to putting it in the rest of my clubs once I get fitted (hopefully with the TXG guys; that'd be incredible!).
So excited to watch this as I just got an ad from them in my IG feed. You read my mind!
The video quality and camera work is beyond amazing
Oversize grips helped me greatly as I picked up the game and worked to a middle handicap. Now that I'm better, I've switched to midsize because I'm more confident with my hands. Even still, I'll tell every mid to high handicapper to consider oversize grips.
Need to see this testing on the driver. Would be interesting to see the effect on a shot with much less spin
The Average golfer site has done this recently😊
nice analysis. I'm seriously considering adding the jumbo size grips to my clubs and this helps my decision to try one. was not aware of the jumbo-medium size. Thanks.
JumboMax is sold out of Small and Medium in the Ultralight! Had to go to eBay and you can’t even find the medium. Messed around with the Tour a few years ago but the swing weight change with the heavier grip was too head-light. Didn’t know until this video that they released an ultralight version. Interestingly, I play a midsize velvet align and the small version will be 17 grams lighter which may make my swing weights 2-3 heavier, which is welcomed because that used to have to be a very custom build.
Camera angles and information were on point. This channel is amazing
I have used Jumbomax tours and utralites for last 4 years (XL) my glove size is 2xl/3xl. Now only have XS Ultralites on woods and that's it. Great to stop hooks, but was so hard to feel iron heads. Very worth while trying out. Start with XS ultralites first, as they are huge as it is.
For every one of these videos you watch, give yourself another +5 points toward fluency in understanding Glasgow accents.
What is truly amazing is that Matt can make another swing change and still hit it well!
Ok so I got the 115 gram xl on my driver and sand wedge. Not 100% sold but man do I love the feel of the larger grips. Love it with chipping and the snap hook has lessened
I've become a big believer in bigger grips. All my grips are now Golf Pride Midsize +4 Align and I love them. I looked online and I see that the Golf Pride MMC +4 Jumbo is now exists and I'm tempted to try them in the wedges and Driver because my miss is Left as well and for sure the Midsize +4 are better at helping this than Standard grips - in fact Standard now feels like child grips. I played tennis and liked a big grip because it gives you more control and it's just more comfortable - I would suggest every man try MIdsize +4 at minimum.
My issue for a number of years is a two way miss with driver. Hit 65%+ fairways but miss equally both ways. My purple patches are when there is a one way miss. G410 set up flat to try and take the left side of the course out. Interested to test the mid size on the driver just to see if there is not the opportunity to just take the left side of the course out of play as that’s the one that tends to be the most costly.
Loving the new video formats! I didn't think you guys could make it any better, but you have.
Loving the view of the workshop!
I'd love to know how you're supposed to fit all your clubs in your bag with grips that big haha
Nathan Woznick it’s easy I’ve got all 13 clubs fitted with JumboMax grips a putter with an oversized grip and they all fit in a pencil bag.
Ya they all fit. I play the XL’s
They fit, but taking them in and out of my Players 4 stand bag is a little tough. Very grippy.
Omnis yes I agree but the little added difficulty in taking them out is worth the benefit of having them on my clubs.
Yeah I play MCC Plus 4 midsize grips and it’s a pain to get them all to sit in the bottom of the bag on my 5 way.