Thank you for bringing hush bringer to people's attention. too many magic the gathering players ignore the two best effects in the game. This is a card that is needed.
I think it represents something that needs to be fleshed out better with more cards but Hushbringer itself is a stax piece and hard stopping players from performing basic game actions is not something we need more of in my opinion. Most of the time Hushbringer isn't hosing that one player who's going to blast past everyone with his ETB deck, its going to shut off perfectly fair stuff players need to do in order to play effectively or even at all. I think there's plenty of design space for ETB interaction and I don't disagree that we need more ways to interact with them. Redirect them, steal them, pay an extra cost to trigger them, limit them to a certain number per turn that isn't zero, there's a lot you could do that isn't just completely shutting them all off.
A card that surprised me how good it was is Threats undetected. A creature double tutor for 3 mana is really nice in any green deck like Volo guide to monsters where if he goes unchecked, you can make them choose between the nastiest cards in your deck like a defiler of vigor or a silverback elder a titan of industry or like sludge monster.
@@Jake-ew7lg nah i hate green, im exposing yall anyways possible because im a black player 🤣 only reason i know about the volo tech is because i built it on MTG arena and i don’t have any crafting materials to make the decks i want to play yet 😤
@@mibbzx1493 If you're a black player then green shouldn't be your worst fear, you can easily kill their creatures, it should be those white enchantments you should hate!
One card you guys should add next time is Wyll's Reversal, super versatile and can be a blow out. Won a game recently where someone tried to Aetherflux me and I used Wyll's to save myself and wipe out 2 opponents. Plus it's only like 50 cents.
Seize the spotlight is sometimes weird, e.g. after a boardwipe. I've put it into a draw slot of my deck, and just recently removed it, because it does not always draw cards when needed. With Gale on the other hand I remember a game, where I played a languish at instant speed, which felt very strong! Good video as always. Stay healthy my favorite nerds :)
I'm not sure if you guys have covered it before, but I have won games by playing a storm of souls. In the right deck that cares about ETBs, it's bananas, but in decks that do not have any synergies, they still will benefit. I have never had it resolve and not had at least groans around the table.
I used to run Journey to Eternity in a Meren deck and it was awesome. Super easy to flip, and a good fallback for Meren or any other reanimation strategy when all else fails. Having a repeatable effect like that on a land is just really handy.
I've been saying for a while that effects like skullwinder and healing technique are pretty crazy. Its often eternal witness with upside because you can often get the player to get removal or a board wipe or something to benefit you and the table as a whole against the archenemy. The control player is dead on board to the token deck? Well make a deal to get there farewell out of there graveyard ezpz
I remember seeing her in the war of the spark spoilers and going, “ I want to make her a commander.” Fast forward to now and she’s the deck I’ve invested the most time into refining.
I have a Gale Izzet (Gale + a red brackground, doesn’t matter which one because we will only ever cast Gale) stormslinger deck and it is absolutely nuts. Loads of coast reducers and mana producing sorceries, you just take 20 minute turns and go to the moon it’s madness.
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I love seize the spotlight in my Hofri deck. The first time I played it I was surprised everyone picked fortune! No one wants to disrupt their board state.
Massacre Girl has a sister card from all the way back in Torment; Last Laugh. It deals damage instead of slinging -1/-1 counters, hits all creatures AND players, but it's a bomb of a card. You just need to figure out a way to protect yourself.
Sometimes I like hated cards like Hushbringer, Strict Proctor, Drannith Magistrate, Elesh Norn, etc. because others REALLY hate them. That said, my goal isn't to shut someone out of a game, but I'd love to draw out the Beast Withins, Assasins Trophys, pongifys, and any other type of removal that I'd rather have used on something that's inconveniencing my opponent, instead of using it on the pieces I'll need to win later on. Unfortunately, my experience over the years is players will complain about anything and everything in this game, and it's all opinion based, so the only strategy I'll stay away from is land destruction.
Wanted to come and put a comment. I have created my account on moxfield and I'm ready to start build my first EDH deck that isn't starting with a Precon. The ghostly pilferer has the gravy!!!
I have been loving Gale. My most unique deck pairs with with street urchin and the runs threaten spells and interactions. I get to use/steel the best creatures and then kill it if they don't promise to not use it against me
I put Massacre Girl in my Kuon deck, I have plenty of token generators to get her going, it gets gross fast, especially with Massacre Wurm on the field.
Love you nerds. I’ve been waiting, and hoping for over a year now. Could you brighten up Joe’s side of the frame? Even if you just do it in post. Thanks
It's a very crappy card, because it's a sorcery. You have to play it before combat, so the opponents will have all the information to choose the best decision
I'm going to keep recommending it until it gets featured in one of these, but From the Catacombs is way underappreciated. It's a repeatable reanimation spell that just wins games on its own.
Tbh even as a blink player I don't really mind Hushbringer, Elesh Norn etc Other decks already have more widespread hate cards, like graveyard and artifact based decks for example, and they are fine still
Nope! It's the opposite, all cards are legal from Unfinity UNLESS they have an acorn stamp. That way common and uncommon playables just look like regular cards.
Jokes on the NPN today. Strength Testing Hammer was one of the first includes I made into my recent Balan, Wandering Knight deck. Super cheap equipment that I can cheat the cost on and on average provides way too much body was too good to pass.
Heh. Let me share a secret. You two are still sleeping on Massacre Girl. The moment I saw her previewed, I understood the raw power she exhibits. It's a deck building challenge, nothing more. I did it, and the deck is so hated in my meta that she exists primarily as a "Challenge" deck. She mows down everything - and I do mean Everything.
I was playing in a game one time where a player cast a Pir's Whim that got me, maybe the saltiest, I've ever been in a game. Board states were fairly even and this person cast Pir's Whim naming everyone BUT me as a friend. I was so tilted.
Might I just add that seize the spotlight is stupid busted in polymorph decks. If all of your opponents choose fame you get three creatures that you then can sacrifice to find one of your best creatures off the top and your opponents still aren’t getting their creatures back
Op agent over performers a bit to well. It's like stifle for land... that gets to stay on the board at instant speed. This isn't modern, legacy, or vintage, where you have redundancies and side board for a game plan and can adjust. I can no longer play a lot of the cards I love, because of how stupid the game has become. It's either super fast agro/combo, or it's long game stax, with no in between. Thinking about it more. When you can only have 1 of each card in a deck, but can win by turn 2 or 3, it becomes more of a gamble for the best hand, than a game. And don't get me started with the turn 1 advantage with a jeweled lotus, while the rest of the game becomes a walk/stomp. If that is the magic you want, don't complain when people leave the game. I used to not drive an hour one way to play a game that last only 5 mins. /rant
Hushbringer: stops creatures - but if you increase your ETB Lands - no effect… Wave of Vitriol would destroy my decks - which have few Basic Lands!!!! Concepts and Legends' Multiverse Cable Network - video not available???
Wave of Vitriol might be the most saltiest card to play. Imagine the game being dragging out, you literally stop the game for everyone while each player spend the next 10 min searching for dozen lands. You think board wipe slow the game, THIS SLOW THE GAME even longer. And worse it hit you too so it's not like you have any advantage.
Stopping shenanigans is fair. Someone abusing come into play triggers and death triggers is easier than stopping it. If you are going to play a mono strategy like that you deserve to get hit by hoser cards. Hushbringer and the like are extremely easy to remove by people playing actually fair magic.
You two are the real over performers.
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You THREE. This show would be nothing without Amber.
Not really a fan of felines. Even amber im afraid.
@@djbisson9819 *stabs with pitchfork*
Aaww
So many awesome videos in a row. This is incredible. Best MTG TH-cam channel 10/10.
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Thank you for bringing hush bringer to people's attention. too many magic the gathering players ignore the two best effects in the game. This is a card that is needed.
It’s REAL good
I think it represents something that needs to be fleshed out better with more cards but Hushbringer itself is a stax piece and hard stopping players from performing basic game actions is not something we need more of in my opinion. Most of the time Hushbringer isn't hosing that one player who's going to blast past everyone with his ETB deck, its going to shut off perfectly fair stuff players need to do in order to play effectively or even at all. I think there's plenty of design space for ETB interaction and I don't disagree that we need more ways to interact with them. Redirect them, steal them, pay an extra cost to trigger them, limit them to a certain number per turn that isn't zero, there's a lot you could do that isn't just completely shutting them all off.
Moxfield is a crazy overperformer, glad you guys mentioned it at exactly 14:29
I really want you guys to cover Infiltration Lens. It's a card thats pretty niche but I think is super underrated!
A card that surprised me how good it was is Threats undetected. A creature double tutor for 3 mana is really nice in any green deck like Volo guide to monsters where if he goes unchecked, you can make them choose between the nastiest cards in your deck like a defiler of vigor or a silverback elder a titan of industry or like sludge monster.
HUSH
KEEP THE GOOD TECH CHEAP 😂
@@Jake-ew7lg nah i hate green, im exposing yall anyways possible because im a black player 🤣 only reason i know about the volo tech is because i built it on MTG arena and i don’t have any crafting materials to make the decks i want to play yet 😤
@@mibbzx1493 If you're a black player then green shouldn't be your worst fear, you can easily kill their creatures, it should be those white enchantments you should hate!
One card you guys should add next time is Wyll's Reversal, super versatile and can be a blow out. Won a game recently where someone tried to Aetherflux me and I used Wyll's to save myself and wipe out 2 opponents. Plus it's only like 50 cents.
I'm sure cherries has it in his wyll dice roller deck
Great one!
Third time guessing the moxfield ad and I am feeling real confident this time, it is going to be 7:48!
Cherries loves henzie, so of course he HATES hushbringer.
who likes hush bringer? No one asks anyone to bring the shhhhher to the party
This doing both sides makes it just that much worse. One side is ehh but both?
@@moomoomiltank this card is for a party pooper deck, and I LOVE IT
@@drewmares145 such a good card
Seize the spotlight is sometimes weird, e.g. after a boardwipe. I've put it into a draw slot of my deck, and just recently removed it, because it does not always draw cards when needed.
With Gale on the other hand I remember a game, where I played a languish at instant speed, which felt very strong!
Good video as always. Stay healthy my favorite nerds :)
Seize the Spotlight is SO nice! Always underrated but always over preforms.
i disagree alot of times people dont care
23:16 Definitely hadn't heard of this one before, but it's DEFINITELY going into my Kharn, the Betrayer deck.
Moxfield is at 9:26 since 19/25 minutes would be far to late for its greatness
BTW the link to MCN doesn't work, did ya CTRL C/V it right?
I'm not sure if you guys have covered it before, but I have won games by playing a storm of souls. In the right deck that cares about ETBs, it's bananas, but in decks that do not have any synergies, they still will benefit. I have never had it resolve and not had at least groans around the table.
I used to run Journey to Eternity in a Meren deck and it was awesome. Super easy to flip, and a good fallback for Meren or any other reanimation strategy when all else fails. Having a repeatable effect like that on a land is just really handy.
I've been saying for a while that effects like skullwinder and healing technique are pretty crazy. Its often eternal witness with upside because you can often get the player to get removal or a board wipe or something to benefit you and the table as a whole against the archenemy. The control player is dead on board to the token deck? Well make a deal to get there farewell out of there graveyard ezpz
Strength Testing Hammer in Isshin 🔥
Massacre girl is probably one of my favourite magic cards. She’s just a super fun board wipe
I remember seeing her in the war of the spark spoilers and going, “ I want to make her a commander.” Fast forward to now and she’s the deck I’ve invested the most time into refining.
@@aurorahrndt I made decks centred around her as soon as I could. One of my favourite decks on arena has a big theme of giving creatures -1/-1
I have a Gale Izzet (Gale + a red brackground, doesn’t matter which one because we will only ever cast Gale) stormslinger deck and it is absolutely nuts. Loads of coast reducers and mana producing sorceries, you just take 20 minute turns and go to the moon it’s madness.
Seize the spotlight is so good with [[ Awaken the blood avatar]] I love it.
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I love seize the spotlight in my Hofri deck. The first time I played it I was surprised everyone picked fortune! No one wants to disrupt their board state.
Massacre Girl has a sister card from all the way back in Torment; Last Laugh. It deals damage instead of slinging -1/-1 counters, hits all creatures AND players, but it's a bomb of a card. You just need to figure out a way to protect yourself.
Sometimes I like hated cards like Hushbringer, Strict Proctor, Drannith Magistrate, Elesh Norn, etc. because others REALLY hate them. That said, my goal isn't to shut someone out of a game, but I'd love to draw out the Beast Withins, Assasins Trophys, pongifys, and any other type of removal that I'd rather have used on something that's inconveniencing my opponent, instead of using it on the pieces I'll need to win later on. Unfortunately, my experience over the years is players will complain about anything and everything in this game, and it's all opinion based, so the only strategy I'll stay away from is land destruction.
Damn, didnt notice you guys are at 100k Subs now, Congrats.
I remember when you guys had like 1k lol, good job.
Wanted to come and put a comment. I have created my account on moxfield and I'm ready to start build my first EDH deck that isn't starting with a Precon. The ghostly pilferer has the gravy!!!
I have been loving Gale. My most unique deck pairs with with street urchin and the runs threaten spells and interactions. I get to use/steel the best creatures and then kill it if they don't promise to not use it against me
link not working?
The multiverse cable network link says its unavailable u.u
Ghostly Pilferer is pretty solid, played it in my Anowon, the Ruin Thief deck at my LGS and it drew like 5 cards for me, pretty nice
Really love Massacre Girl. Can be really good in an aristocrats deck too, this + Poison-Tip Archer can end games.
Try out "Tempted by the Oriq", a lot of commanders nowadays (or small incredible value pieces) are sub 3 cmc and its a brutal 3 for 1.
Strength Testing Hammer says roll a six-sided die. Do the numbers on that die have to be 1 through 6?
Actually you can have the infinity symbol on each side of the dice and OTK the opponent.
@@FelipeLundgreen assuming you go unblocked or have a fling effect that is.
I put Massacre Girl in my Kuon deck, I have plenty of token generators to get her going, it gets gross fast, especially with Massacre Wurm on the field.
Multiverse cable network linked video doesn’t exist anymore…
Joe Cherries was going for the pet birthday wishes.. and then Beezy interrupted him
There are some decent cards that I have not seen. Thanks Nitpicking Nerds.
Love you nerds. I’ve been waiting, and hoping for over a year now. Could you brighten up Joe’s side of the frame? Even if you just do it in post. Thanks
One of the funniest turns in Commander I’ve had is when I cast Massacre Girl, and then my opponent flashed in the UR clone. 😂
the segment on Strength-Testing Hammer makes one suspect that neither of the Nerds has a Balan deck ; )
-- a Balan player
I'm guessing the moxfield ad is at 0:00 thru 25:47.
Yall can thank me later
I love seize the spotlight in Juri, very good pick!
Wave of Vitriol has been an MVP in my Landfall deck a few times.
strength testing hammer looks awesome for my vrondiss deck
Where did Amber's name plate go?!??
Love the daily content as always
Ooh, the classic slicer, I love it, my opponents no so much.
I gotta recommend you guys(probably Joe) try Gaze of Pain! Only requirements for a 3+ for 1 are be in black and care about your combat step.
It's a very crappy card, because it's a sorcery. You have to play it before combat, so the opponents will have all the information to choose the best decision
You like healibg technique? How about skullwinder?
I love massacre girl in my Taysa Karlov deck. Lots of triggers going off
Ah man I snorted laughing at Joe's content creators estimates hahaha and Beezy's reaction!
This was a great informative video thanks guys. KEEP STAYING PAWZITIVE GUYS
I am flabberghasted by how my opinions differ from yours
I picked up Massacre Girl on recommendation from a previous NN video - it's stupid good.
I'm going to keep recommending it until it gets featured in one of these, but From the Catacombs is way underappreciated. It's a repeatable reanimation spell that just wins games on its own.
From the catacombs is a must have in a self-mill deck
@@bisowa8883 It's also super good in reanimator decks, as being able to entomb for a reanimation spell is amazing.
@@simonteesdale9752 I rock the hell out of it in my mill-thief deck
Wave of vitriol in my MazirekDeck is just brutal. Most the time 7 Mana, put 30+ +1/+1 Counter on all my creatures 😅
Tbh even as a blink player I don't really mind Hushbringer, Elesh Norn etc
Other decks already have more widespread hate cards, like graveyard and artifact based decks for example, and they are fine still
You guys are awesome.
The best feeling ever is to use journey on a sakura tribe elder for extra ramp
Might want to check the concepts and legends link 🫤
Tbh ghostly pilferer and thieving skydiver are 2 really good pickups.
Mox field ad at 17:17
One card I'd suggest is belt of giant strength
One of the few equipments in my Stangg enchantress deck. Soooo good.
Moxfield ad at 18:32
Isn't the unfinity card not legal in commander? I thought it needed the halo sticker at the bottom.
Nope! It's the opposite, all cards are legal from Unfinity UNLESS they have an acorn stamp. That way common and uncommon playables just look like regular cards.
Jokes on the NPN today. Strength Testing Hammer was one of the first includes I made into my recent Balan, Wandering Knight deck. Super cheap equipment that I can cheat the cost on and on average provides way too much body was too good to pass.
My favorite videos you guys do!
Heh. Let me share a secret. You two are still sleeping on Massacre Girl. The moment I saw her previewed, I understood the raw power she exhibits. It's a deck building challenge, nothing more. I did it, and the deck is so hated in my meta that she exists primarily as a "Challenge" deck. She mows down everything - and I do mean Everything.
I was playing in a game one time where a player cast a Pir's Whim that got me, maybe the saltiest, I've ever been in a game. Board states were fairly even and this person cast Pir's Whim naming everyone BUT me as a friend. I was so tilted.
Nice haircut Beezy! :)
Healing technique is super damn good.
Hope you beautiful humans are having the best time at Philly! Appreciate you both!
Dammit my membership ran out, to the bank I go!
im getting the new secret lair with massacre girl it looks amazing as well as the one with braids of fire
That’s one of the coolest secret lairs ever
Didn't realize Seize the Spotlight doesn't target. That's incredible.
Pretty sweet right?
Arcane proxy is also pretty dope in the right deck
Om totally getting the hammer. Thanks guys
Seize the moment in awaken the blood avatar if they choose all fame you get a free cast plus 1 mana and three cards
Nice video! thanks
Oh wow, strength-testing hammer goes in Isshin!
Hushbringer is Elesh Norn, Mother of Machines Lite. change my mind
Might I just add that seize the spotlight is stupid busted in polymorph decks. If all of your opponents choose fame you get three creatures that you then can sacrifice to find one of your best creatures off the top and your opponents still aren’t getting their creatures back
Broken link to the video
As a southerner, your misspelling of "biscuit" on your patron page is unforgivable.
i love massacre girl! it's such a cool card.
Need more amber specific content
Op agent over performers a bit to well. It's like stifle for land... that gets to stay on the board at instant speed. This isn't modern, legacy, or vintage, where you have redundancies and side board for a game plan and can adjust. I can no longer play a lot of the cards I love, because of how stupid the game has become. It's either super fast agro/combo, or it's long game stax, with no in between. Thinking about it more. When you can only have 1 of each card in a deck, but can win by turn 2 or 3, it becomes more of a gamble for the best hand, than a game. And don't get me started with the turn 1 advantage with a jeweled lotus, while the rest of the game becomes a walk/stomp. If that is the magic you want, don't complain when people leave the game. I used to not drive an hour one way to play a game that last only 5 mins. /rant
Hushbringer: stops creatures - but if you increase your ETB Lands - no effect…
Wave of Vitriol would destroy my decks - which have few Basic Lands!!!!
Concepts and Legends' Multiverse Cable Network - video not available???
Hey, fresh cut, Beezy
Saw in Half is my fav unfinity card.
Wave of Vitriol might be the most saltiest card to play. Imagine the game being dragging out, you literally stop the game for everyone while each player spend the next 10 min searching for dozen lands. You think board wipe slow the game, THIS SLOW THE GAME even longer. And worse it hit you too so it's not like you have any advantage.
Ghostly Pilferer is an auto-include in virtually any deck that can cast it.
Stopping shenanigans is fair. Someone abusing come into play triggers and death triggers is easier than stopping it. If you are going to play a mono strategy like that you deserve to get hit by hoser cards. Hushbringer and the like are extremely easy to remove by people playing actually fair magic.
So.. wave of V against a 0-basic land deck is just Armageddon?? Sounds rough. My 5 color decks cringed at the thought lol
They/them?
12:57 Moxfield ad
9:00
hey admittedly I haven't been watching as much as I'd like however... yo where's the 100K video or did I miss it?
Amber and overperformers!! Lets go!!! First!
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The hammer is the best equipment from 2022 ❤️
Strength Testing Hammer + Slicer 😈
No Grave Titan?! Based