Commander Overperformers: Cards That Are Better Than They Look in EDH (Part 9)

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  • @erichunt1974
    @erichunt1974 ปีที่แล้ว +106

    Krenko Mob Boss neither overperforms, or underperforms. He performs exactly as he needs to (by creating a metric crapton of goblins)

    • @NitpickingNerds
      @NitpickingNerds  ปีที่แล้ว +10

      He created Miso, a 1/1 goblin

    • @thriftypsgr
      @thriftypsgr ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I feel this about Captain Lanary Storm. Does exactly what it should do and does it well

    • @Buberte
      @Buberte ปีที่แล้ว +5

      You sound like gandalf when he was talking about the timing of a wizard 😅

    • @chrisvainio
      @chrisvainio ปีที่แล้ว

      #zadaisthebestgoblincommander #zadaeatskrenkoforbreakfast

  • @ethanicuscopernicus6758
    @ethanicuscopernicus6758 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ghostly Pilferer is my favorite under the radar card.

  • @kyarthnohktiss
    @kyarthnohktiss ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Admittedly didn't expect to see Ishai on here just because I assumed everyone already knew he was busted lmao
    Aerial Extortionist also goes extremely hard, birds stay winning tbh

  • @gemmintmtg4267
    @gemmintmtg4267 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I love these episodes, I always find random new stuff for decks that I either forgot about or never caught when they came out

  • @natetaylor2346
    @natetaylor2346 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Kambal was my first ever commander (just a black white deck thrown together) and he always showed out, so it's nice to see some respect thrown his way

    • @heresyseed
      @heresyseed ปีที่แล้ว

      I run kambal in my Ratadrabik deck… he really shines when you copy him multiple times 😅

  • @Buchaus
    @Buchaus ปีที่แล้ว +6

    One thing that has never over performed is me guessing the Moxfield ad at 16:44, especially since it's the 48th day I've guessed

  • @jacobbrown9894
    @jacobbrown9894 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love to see the Adeline love, in video and comments. I locked onto her during preview season and had her built super fast and still do and I love her. She is really good at pushing a hyper offense strat with control, protection, and sustainability especially as white keeps getting strong token support. While big bodies are easy to overrate at times, throwing 16 or so commander damage turn 4 is actually bonkers

  • @alexanderbarr8539
    @alexanderbarr8539 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I played Painful Quandary against 3 Izzet spell slinger decks, and it hella over-performs. It was removed after one rotation, but by that time, they were all under 10 life while I was sitting at 37.

  • @jayjayhooksch1
    @jayjayhooksch1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Breach the Multiverse is one of my big spells to copy in my Anhelo, the Painter deck. It puts you firmly in the drivers seat when you get 8 permanents and 5+ etb effects for 7 mana.

  • @HauntedCorpseGaming
    @HauntedCorpseGaming ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love my Kambal B/W deck. :D

  • @X4Marc4X
    @X4Marc4X ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Adeline is so good in my Isshin, Two Heavens as One deck. Triggers twice and have a great synergy with my other cards creating creatrures

    • @NitpickingNerds
      @NitpickingNerds  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Isshin is so powerful and can be super strong!

  • @krunchyapples
    @krunchyapples ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love vicious shadows and painful quandary in my Nekusar deck. Vicious shadows for the obvious reasons, but I like painful quandary because if Nekusar is built around forcing extra draws then I want to have cards that punish opponents for trying to play their hand.
    I would definitely put Kambal in there too if the colors lined up

  • @corsel6911
    @corsel6911 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lithoform Engine is my favourite card I always end up cutting

  • @crawdaddy1234
    @crawdaddy1234 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    5:03 My how the times have changed. It used to be that being a legendary creature was considered a down side. Now it’s the reverse.

  • @DamnItMarco
    @DamnItMarco ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Unwinding clock in Shorikai always gives me such value, and is constantly the best card i've played in the game.

  • @totakekeslider3835
    @totakekeslider3835 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Breach the Multiverse is one of the top 3 spells in my Saruman of Many Colors deck. I don't think I've ever lost a game where it resolved.

  • @Vrir16
    @Vrir16 ปีที่แล้ว

    Honestly think it's kind of incredible to think you haven't played a Pokemon game, Beezy. Maybe I'm of the age where it was THE game to play as a kid, but even as an adult I go back to them frequently

  • @gilliganallmighty3
    @gilliganallmighty3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I run Painful Quandry in my Tegrid, God of Salt deck. It turns the game into solitaire.
    I dont run Cathar's Crusade because it can take forever to resolve in a go wide tokens deck.

  • @Hashbrown1682
    @Hashbrown1682 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Beezy...
    After everything we've been through
    *YOU'RE-A BREAKING-A MY HEART-A*

  • @allannechio7368
    @allannechio7368 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Rashikar's Expertise + Aragorn the unifier =Oh my god

  • @winzor13
    @winzor13 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Moxfield at 16:34

  • @kalebs6201
    @kalebs6201 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for bringing vicious shadows to my attention my Zurzoth Burn deck thanks you

  • @sirmegallot3276
    @sirmegallot3276 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm making an artifact token deck that is going to run time sieve, it would be so fun to be able to take an extra turn and then copy that activated ability for just two more mana with Lithoform ;)

  • @boochaca7957
    @boochaca7957 ปีที่แล้ว

    kambal kinda sits there not being scary then you're at 10 life and "oh shit, 5 spells and i die"

  • @ollmeister4632
    @ollmeister4632 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like putting painful quandary in my black decks. It definitly not the best card but it annoys every opponent so they keep overfocusing the card

  • @marcoottina654
    @marcoottina654 ปีที่แล้ว

    8:36 but ... what if you blink the Aerial Extortionist while a card is exiled? Did the exiled card "fail to keep its object reference" and therefore the owner will never be able to cast it? That should be true since blinking a creature (any permanent) creates a brand new "instance", therefore the "old A.E. , the one that exiled the permanent C" should have ceased to exist.

    • @mrjey3434
      @mrjey3434 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Aerial Extortionist is not like an Oblivion Ring where the exiled card specifically refers to the permanent being on the battlefield. Aerial Extortionist says the card is exiled, but it's owner can cast it as long as it's exiled, no matter what happens to Aerial Extortionist

    • @marcoottina654
      @marcoottina654 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mrjey3434 you are right! thanks!
      but I mean ... can the owner cast the exiled card even if the A.E. leaves the battlefield?

    • @Buberte
      @Buberte ปีที่แล้ว

      @@marcoottina654yes, as long as the card is in exile. It refers to the card, not to the AE 😉

    • @marcoottina654
      @marcoottina654 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Buberte ok so it works as a "lingering effect", I mean it's not an "allowance" granted by a static effect provided by AE, its something that is grant to the exiled card and, then, strictly linked to that exiled card only.
      Nice :D thanks you all ^^

  • @kcrad1527
    @kcrad1527 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Viscious Shadows is a great include for an Adamaro, First to Desire deck due to the card draw theme. Could be brutal.

  • @quayo90
    @quayo90 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh Painful Quandary is my Absolute favorite card in my Tatsunari Enchantments deck. I love being the person saying, will you pay the 5? 😂

  • @cactuscarl5190
    @cactuscarl5190 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was playing slimefoot and squee and was hellbent for 2 turns in a row. Too decked breach the multiverse and won that turn.

  • @tonyhickey2187
    @tonyhickey2187 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My son made me my first deck, krenko, mob boss, obvoiusly gobbos. What recommendations would you suggest(ive added quire a few) to include, so i can whoop his @ss with it?

    • @mrjey3434
      @mrjey3434 ปีที่แล้ว

      The nitpicking nerds made a video called 'a guide to goblins' a long time ago, but i think everything in that video probably still applies today
      And you could check out Edhrec to see what others are playing, but I wouldn't recommend copying the whole list fron there
      Rundvelt Hordemaster is amazing

  • @hanschristopherson8056
    @hanschristopherson8056 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Vicious shadows is nasty

  • @Grekko11
    @Grekko11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I got the Moxfield ad right!

  • @bongmaster8933
    @bongmaster8933 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Moxfield at 13.54

  • @Wojtek36762
    @Wojtek36762 ปีที่แล้ว

    I might try Aerial Extortionist in my Liesa deck! Just making people replay spells with the life tax and slowing the game down feels good, let alone the card draw.

  • @Mecal00
    @Mecal00 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ok, dang, did not realize Adeline triggers on any of your attacks. I thought she had to attack!

  • @ajaydassani9931
    @ajaydassani9931 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you.. kaereveck the merciless is a card worth mentioning.. it's very game warping even politically

  • @aerynmusick4548
    @aerynmusick4548 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Kambul is SO GOOD

  • @ianwhite7246
    @ianwhite7246 ปีที่แล้ว

    Aerial extortionist is a bomb in my Rocco street chef deck.

  • @2turnt11
    @2turnt11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I played against Aerial Extortionist this weekend and it was brutal

  • @mikeashe7270
    @mikeashe7270 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lithoform engine has done so much work for me I put it in any deck I can make it fit

  • @admstoker
    @admstoker ปีที่แล้ว

    Breach the Multiverse goes into almost every black deck I have.

  • @doktarr
    @doktarr ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Moxfield 9:12

  • @weeklyweeks7545
    @weeklyweeks7545 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mox Amber I got from you is the only proxy I own and I slammed that right into my favorite deck! Thank you NERDS!

  • @markc6571
    @markc6571 ปีที่แล้ว

    Vicious Shadows is a nice pick ⛏️
    That's going right into my Enchantment tribal Kykar deck

  • @supereece1337
    @supereece1337 ปีที่แล้ว

    Necropotence and vicious shadows with a sac outlet is probably mean

  • @rushclaw3706
    @rushclaw3706 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Surprised you didn’t mention lithoform being able to copy Teferi master of time’s ultimate to gain 4 extra turns

  • @bruvaroni
    @bruvaroni ปีที่แล้ว

    Teferi and oath of Teferi are so brutal together

  • @duathhadron5040
    @duathhadron5040 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve never seen Vicious Shadows before. I think that’ll go great in my Nekusar deck! 🤣😈

  • @modernviking7800
    @modernviking7800 ปีที่แล้ว

    I play Aerial Extortionist in my Cascade Deck, to bounce my Cascade Creatures like Apex Devestator

  • @robertpatterson4357
    @robertpatterson4357 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had fun playing Jeska/Ishai (Jeskai), it was surprisingly effective.

  • @banteringboomer4280
    @banteringboomer4280 ปีที่แล้ว

    my Ashaya loves power based card draws

  • @PaoloBonacina
    @PaoloBonacina ปีที่แล้ว

    My takes:
    Vicious shadows - It'd be nice if we could get to 7 mana at my table just once.
    Ishai, Ojutai dragonspeaker - I can confirm. Managorger, Taurean and Sunscorch are all overperformers.
    Lithoform engine - The card has a decent value beyond being mythic. It's devastating in decks that already have huge trigger payoffs like Zur the Enchanter.
    Aerial extortionist - The second ability is nice, but coming at 5 mana is a bit too late for me.
    Teferi, master of time - He's good because he's basically +4 each lap around the table. This deters a lot of small hitters, on top of the filtering effect.
    Rishkar expertise - Just yes.
    Kambal, consul of allocation - "Oh, it's only noncreature spells" until they lose 10 life each. It's that great.
    Painful Quandary - In my Tourach discard deck this won me games by forfeit. It's just soul crushing.
    Breach the multiverse - It's even better when you make your opponents discard the good 8+ mana cards they won't have time to cast anyway.
    Adeline, respendent cathar - Not an overperformer. She performs exactly as you would expect. That is still A LOT.

  • @tonydiazist
    @tonydiazist ปีที่แล้ว

    so.... dumb question. when it comes to commander damage ig you have 2 commanders do both have to hit for 21 or is it combined/Shared??

    • @mrjey3434
      @mrjey3434 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's separated. If you both of your commanders each dealt 20 damage to someone, nothing happens (except if they're at 0 obviously) but if any one of them dealt 21 to someone, they're dead, no matter how much the other commander dealt

  • @ajaydassani9931
    @ajaydassani9931 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm deciding to put either vicious shadows or painful quandary or breach in my jund kresh deck.. which one?

    • @NitpickingNerds
      @NitpickingNerds  ปีที่แล้ว

      Vicious shadows is our pick if you can only put one!

    • @ajaydassani9931
      @ajaydassani9931 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you.. kaereveck the merciless is a card worth mentioning.. it's very game warping even politically

  • @francogentile383
    @francogentile383 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ghostly pilferer is a great card too. 2 cmc 2/1 + draw in opponents commanders casts.

  • @Tmp3st
    @Tmp3st ปีที่แล้ว

    Man I would have loved to play w/ you guys, proceed to lose horribly and get an Amber token memento

  • @Chocolate83Bunny
    @Chocolate83Bunny ปีที่แล้ว

    I had vicious shadows in nekhuzar but its just too expensive for mana so i cant get it out

  • @tab021
    @tab021 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That whole moxfield home depot bit was legitimately hilarious

  • @themicrophone0
    @themicrophone0 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ishai takes over games every time I play it!!!

  • @representativejoints1188
    @representativejoints1188 ปีที่แล้ว

    I use Aerial Extortionist and Lithoform in my Prowl deck. They do work

  • @drocka36
    @drocka36 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a feeling that here soon, the nerds will be the first ones to tell me happy birfday lol :)

  • @vincent-antoinesoucy1872
    @vincent-antoinesoucy1872 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kambal is my lifegain commander and I love it :)

  • @user-ff1md4jo5h
    @user-ff1md4jo5h ปีที่แล้ว

    lithoform + any planeswalker ultimate ;)

  • @hepic2874
    @hepic2874 ปีที่แล้ว

    Moxfield ad at 25:29 seconds. My second guess ever. And i have just seen the video isnt 25 minutes. Oh dear

  • @ingoopensboosters1165
    @ingoopensboosters1165 ปีที่แล้ว

    this - But with Commons and uncommons please! There are so many underpreciated cards in MTG!

  • @heresyseed
    @heresyseed ปีที่แล้ว

    Painful quandary…. Tergrids toilet paper!
    Now that she roll’s with both witch kings and the battle mace of nazgul… it’s an absolute scoop inducer!

  • @stfinalwrath
    @stfinalwrath ปีที่แล้ว

    Vilis performs far better than i expected when i built him as a commander. Any burn spell, attack into you, paying life to cast spells, anything that causes you to lose life just becomes massively beneficial. And it even had the added benefit of having underworld dreams go infinite against my opponent when they used machine gods effagy to copy vilis. They entered an infinite life loss and draw loop that couldn't be stopped because one of their other permanents made them draw a card whenever they cast a spell, so even if they could remove their own permanent or my underworld dreams it would've just triggered another draw while it was still on the stack and pinged them for a point triggering infinite draw/life loss all over again. They never cloned my Vilis again lol.. 😂🤣

  • @sonkal-elkent6143
    @sonkal-elkent6143 ปีที่แล้ว

    That Nykthos print 🤩

  • @thriftypsgr
    @thriftypsgr ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Are these two together? They have such a good chemistry

  • @jakecallen9164
    @jakecallen9164 ปีที่แล้ว

    Beezy can i see that Marchesa list

  • @skullkrusher-dx4kg
    @skullkrusher-dx4kg ปีที่แล้ว

    I played adeline. It really takes people by surprise.

    • @NitpickingNerds
      @NitpickingNerds  ปีที่แล้ว

      You can tell when it’s their first time playing against her!

  • @Akoustikus
    @Akoustikus ปีที่แล้ว

    yooooooo Mia's vaporwave Catherine shirt is fire af!

  • @rickmorty2893
    @rickmorty2893 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    1st comment! moxfield ad 18:26 in

  • @crawdaddy1234
    @crawdaddy1234 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    WATER TYPES RULE! Unfortunately the water type starters in the recent generations have kinda sucked. 😅

    • @NitpickingNerds
      @NitpickingNerds  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah I definitely haven't kept up with recent Pokémon but my favorite Pokémon is Piplup!

  • @tylercollier6665
    @tylercollier6665 ปีที่แล้ว

    Moxfield at 11.37

  • @Dgoold2
    @Dgoold2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I cannot fathom a magic the gathering player having never played a Pokémon game 😮

  • @darenpaz4264
    @darenpaz4264 ปีที่แล้ว

    12:12 expertise is missing the T

    • @NitpickingNerds
      @NitpickingNerds  ปีที่แล้ว

      Can't nitpick without appreciating a good nitpick ourselves!

  • @moocowp4970
    @moocowp4970 ปีที่แล้ว

    Im confused about Teferi, i havent played with or against it, but from what i can gather it should still only be able to activate its planeswalker abilities once every turn cycle, just like every other planeswalker. People online seem to be saying it can activate on every players turn, but i dont know the rule that allows this. Even Gatherer says "Teferi's first ability doesn't change how many of his abilities you can activate during each turn." which to me indicates that "you get to use this once every turn cycle, just like other planeswalkers".
    I sort of believe that everyone else is more likely right, but can someone show me the rule that indicates it happens on every turn? Not just every turn cycle?

    • @sarahbuck2506
      @sarahbuck2506 ปีที่แล้ว

      306.5d Each planeswalker has a number of loyalty abilities, which are activated abilities with loyalty symbols in their costs. Loyalty abilities follow special rules: A player may activate a loyalty ability of a permanent they control any time they have priority and the stack is empty during a main phase of their turn, but only if none of that permanent’s loyalty abilities have been activated that turn. See rule 606, “Loyalty Abilities.”

  • @harrisonshrode1831
    @harrisonshrode1831 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man, I'm actually super curious what the "REDACTED" deck building website actually is, because it's sounding worse and worse every episode.

  • @drbeetheemighty
    @drbeetheemighty ปีที่แล้ว

    Their intros 😂🎉

  • @tiduschew2156
    @tiduschew2156 ปีที่แล้ว

    Breach the Multiverse is NOT fun. It got played a few times in our group and we quickly realized how broken it is.
    Then, everyone starts tutoring for it, plays it, recurs it, copies it. Otherwise, everyone holds up counter spells the moment someone approaches Breach mana.
    Every game is just the same until we eventually house-banned it.

  • @e6staffsargeify
    @e6staffsargeify ปีที่แล้ว

    Krenko is consistent. But Muxus is king gobbo

  • @jasonbarry3301
    @jasonbarry3301 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    7 mana cards can’t over perform. If you spent 7 mana anything short of winning the game is an underperformance

  • @wizap7
    @wizap7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh beezy… i’m so, so sorry for your lack of a proper childhood..

  • @Breviparopus
    @Breviparopus ปีที่แล้ว

    A underperformer is sad robot. In blink you have farhaven elves and in artifact decks I'd rather have any 2 manna rock

  • @drew-id
    @drew-id ปีที่แล้ว

    Here's my favorite Tefferi stories.
    Table let me keep the trferri, cause I kept phasing Koma during koma's upkeep.
    Other favorite story. Turned Tefferi into an artifact. Animated my artifact. Equiped boots on Tefferi and laugh.

  • @goodknight65
    @goodknight65 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pt 10 - Grave Titan

  • @Bruggi10
    @Bruggi10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Beezy has never played a pokemon game???

  • @DarkPikachuYTV
    @DarkPikachuYTV ปีที่แล้ว

    Beezy never played Pokémon 🤯

    • @NitpickingNerds
      @NitpickingNerds  ปีที่แล้ว

      That's what I said when I first heard that!

  • @echoesvayne9790
    @echoesvayne9790 ปีที่แล้ว

    horn of gondor

  • @trains4nothng
    @trains4nothng 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    now i know you arnt a 80's baby. no pokemon. its ok i stll love ya.

  • @robertthomas-ps1nn
    @robertthomas-ps1nn ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why don't you like managorger hydra? thing has trample and always get big haha I love it

  • @a_guy_in_orange7230
    @a_guy_in_orange7230 ปีที่แล้ว

    8:39

  • @geofferiswheel
    @geofferiswheel ปีที่แล้ว

    Fire pokemon starter @Mia.

  • @61ERock
    @61ERock ปีที่แล้ว

    Ok... I knew there was a reason I've always disliked beezy's opinion. Who hasn't played pokemon and thinks it's cook 😂😂😂 also Mia being a water starter chooser like me says a lot about why I'm still here to listen to her opinion 😂😂😂😂

  • @samchase6273
    @samchase6273 ปีที่แล้ว

    Aint no way Miso plays green

    • @NitpickingNerds
      @NitpickingNerds  ปีที่แล้ว

      He plays green stompy at sorcery speed only

  • @whoisyouwhoisyou
    @whoisyouwhoisyou ปีที่แล้ว

    beezy gotta be lying about not playing pokemon.

    • @NitpickingNerds
      @NitpickingNerds  ปีที่แล้ว

      No I literally haven’t, I only know like 20 Pokémon 😭

  • @PaulissVegan
    @PaulissVegan ปีที่แล้ว

    aerial extortionist still too cheap for what it does

  • @drew-id
    @drew-id ปีที่แล้ว

    Made my gf an ISHAI deck. She said I don't want to think hard. I said, 'I gotchyu'.
    Ran the partner that spread out the combat dmg to all players. Someone's gonna not have flying blockers.

  • @christopheredie4386
    @christopheredie4386 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Never played Pokemon?! You may lose your nerd card 😂