The odds that I'm ever going to need to work on the door pins on a 20-year old Chevy truck is as close to zero as I can imagine, and I still love watching JR go through it FTW. Sweet.
I got 2 sets of the tool steel door and roller pins, for both my 98 extended cab and 99 Blazer. I’m not planning on touching them ever again. Did the Blazer last weekend. They shut and latch like butter.
Always fun, and yes, replacing hinge pins and door handles pays off in many ways. Now, pulling 20 year old plastic panels off doors can be a bit more challenging than just "pull it off". Having new panel clips on hand is very helpful with that!
I replaced quite a few GM's with worn out bushings and pins. I have seen some of the 2 door Regals and Cutlases where the owner let the bad pins go so long that the striker bolt was literally beaten out of the jam so I would have to weld a patch in the door jam. Good move John you can now smile every time you close the doors on your truck.
I did these myself on a blazer by using a floor jack under the door to hold it and then did the bottom one first, then the top. Long long ago when I was young.
If I could help Watch JR Goes replace the door hinge pins, handles, and bushings I would drink the shot of whiskey and the cold Bartle Skeets and puff on the Cannabis Cigars and get all schmoked up
As the owner of an 86 Iroc-Z28,I feel this pain. The design is the same but slightly different. Third gen f body doors are extremely heavy so I can only imagine how many pins and bushings old monte Carlos went through
I used to take the doors off my 2000 blazer ZR2 every summer. Using a high lift jack is actually easier than having a second person. The last time I did it I got the pins in and doors hung in about 5 minutes per door by myself.
Same truck, I had lousy results with the bushing/pin kit. I finally just added the metal back into the hinge and added a couple of washers also welded in and ground off to the shape of the hinge. Problem solved. The spring tool is great and absolutely mandatory.
Thanks, can not tell you how many times I've chased down an inexpensive rusty plow truck, only to open the doors and they drop. Rusty rocker panels and wheel wells I can expect, but rusty door frames/hinges are a pain.
Cunningham Machine, LLC Machine shop in Calloway County Kentucky makes brass bushing for the OBS Chevy trucks. They don’t split when you put the terrible powdered metal bushing in place. They are worth the money.
I had an s10 once and had to replace those pins. But I had to have the hinge welded back up because I let it go for so long that the hole was not a circle but an oval.
@@camaromodschannel oh ok thanks Did JR buy the truck? I have a bad memory.lol I thought he sad something about putting a system in it. Am I just way off on his plans for it?
If you pound-in the new bushings, you'll most likely crack them. Instead, use a 1/4" bolt, nut, washers, and a spacer (maybe a socket) to press the bushings into place. You can do the job with one person if you hold the door up with an engine hoist.
I have a 70 year old whiz jack (bumper jack) that is great for holding up the door from the bottom. But yeah I've seen people destroy brand new hinge pin bushing by just knocking it in. Also sometimes the hole isn't round anymore and takes drilling and oversized bushings. Always had good luck with a chunk of all thread to do both at the same time.
The O'Reily guys seem like theyre over JR walking in like he owns the place. He does like to just take over the computer and walk in the back a lot. :D
Someone attempted to break into my v8 swapped s10 with a pry bar also! Messed up my door pretty good. I just got done painting it yesterday. I went with the same color as the trx, graphite Crystal metallic. Looks pretty good considering it’s my first time🤟
I changed a set a long time ago and one of the bushings split. My current S10 needs them but I just deal with it because they are a pain. If you do them get an extra pin kit so you can have the bushings for when they split when you are installing them.
i do so many of these that i had to buy a door hangar , which makes it so much easier , just put a bit of tension under the door and pound the pins out , you said 100k but they don't really last even that long , here in Colorado with all the dust 25k is about average.
If a 2nd person is not available to hold the door up, just put a floor jack on a cinder block with a piece of wood on the lift plate, and use that take the weight of the door, works like a charm.
🤫 Definitely a work in progress. But should look like 👍 almost new, after you have finished working on it. Another interesting project vehicle 🤔. For sure. Enjoyable watching you fix this truck up.....
First car had a saggy driver's door- an '86 chrysler laser. It was my dad's, and he had to use the door to help transfer in/out of his wheelchair. After 150k miles it was worn out. Had to lift on it a bit to get it open easily 😕 Funnily enough, he got a '97 fairway green (only ever saw 1 other in that color) sonoma 3 door for his next vehicle. With a bunch of belltech goodies that lowered it 3". Didn't keep it long enough for the hinge pins to wear out though.
Years ago I knew a guy that rebuilt GM door hinges and sold them at car shows. He almost always sold out. Some wrecking yard would not sell him the hinges, they wanted him to buy the whole door.
FYI use dry ice and keep all your bushing in it. It will make them smaller. Makes it go in way easier. Spray white lithium in the holes first. Keep your gloves on.
Your door holder wanted to tell his funny story about KFC in Australia and JR basically Google himself "not Australia, it was in the UK" also "not KFC it was pizzahut" lmao I think we've all been in those shoes at some point and well there goes my funny fricken story, thanks alot man lol
I JUST so happened to be messing with the door handles and locks on my old 1989 c1500.. and oh my dear LORD.. the driver's side.. first thing that i knew was bad was a guy had his name and phone number on a refrigerator magnet behind the door card.. yeah.. so i got the interior handle and lock replaced.. fun no bggie. then the exterior handle and lock cylinder.. yes sir.. NOT GONNA HAPPEN.. hahahah it must be slightly deformed because I can NOT get a new lock cylinder inside the handle into the damn door.. it will NOT go in connected.. and there's no way in HELL it's going to go in from the inside, there's just no way it's possible.. I HATE door handles on old cars.. GOD i hate them.. haha great video JR thanks man..
If you lube the door hinges properly, you will never need to replace the pins. A dry lube spray like CRC 3044 Dry PTFE Lube, CRC 3084 Dry Moly Lube or CRC 3094 Dry Graphite Lube should be used. Never use oil or grease because dust sticks to them and turns the lubricant into a grinding compound.
It didn't. They only wrapped one side the other night. You can clearly see the one side is wrapped (you can see the blue overlapping the bedside th-cam.com/video/9Ad4C37-wXc/w-d-xo.html ) the entire episode when they are working on the driver side door and they move to the passenger side briefly at one point towards the end showing it wrapped.
John Ross: "It was Demolition Man not Renaissance Man, it was the European version not the Australian version, and it was Pizza Hut not KFC" all without taking his eyes off the task at hand. Had me loling.
I looked everywhere for pins for the third door… looks like it’s unobtanium… actually doesn’t even exist… third door is the cab apparently.. my third door moves more then your front door did… my fox was to take it to a buddies body shop and we drilled them out and put in universal pins… good as new :)
I have new pin/bushing kits for my Chevy G20 van. Just need to find someone to install them. Body shop? Regular repair shop? I don't have the means to do it.
Ha that bit about Demolition Man is true I bought a DVD from somewhere cause I thought I lost my other one and when it got to that part I was like pizza hut pretty sure they said it was Taco Bell and sure enough when I found my old DVD of Demolition Man it said Taco Bell I was like wtf did I buy lol
I have tortured memories of those rods inside the door of my Saturns, having to remove those to get the interior door panel off to change speakers. I lost much blood.
Endura pins make S10 pins and bushings out of tool grade steel and you never have to replace them. They make themfor all GM trucks S10 pickup S10 Blazers gmt400 gmt800 and a lot of others
Sorry I didn't see the video first where you knew about Endura pants but when the hinges are worn out and you replace with new bushings they tend to make a new bushings fail way quicker than 100,000 cuz of the whole is wallered out
I usually show my old car doors pictures of sleek sexy doors with all the female passengers.... that usually stops their sagging for a few months.🤨 Cheers mate.
JR, 8:06 We DO have Taco Bells in Europe Quite a bit asa a matter fact. Nearest one to me is just 10 kilometers away.. :) When do we get WatchJRTravelsToEU series?
Did I miss an episode on this build because I'm wondering why they are spending time on door pins instead of, you know, getting the engine running. Are they waiting for parts? I don't get it. The most important part of the build, and it's being left for the last minute. I will have to go back and rewatch some episodes I guess.
The odds that I'm ever going to need to work on the door pins on a 20-year old Chevy truck is as close to zero as I can imagine, and I still love watching JR go through it FTW. Sweet.
:50 Don’t leave us on a cliffhanger about the hundred 💵 bill! Lol
I got 2 sets of the tool steel door and roller pins, for both my 98 extended cab and 99 Blazer. I’m not planning on touching them ever again. Did the Blazer last weekend. They shut and latch like butter.
Always fun, and yes, replacing hinge pins and door handles pays off in many ways. Now, pulling 20 year old plastic panels off doors can be a bit more challenging than just "pull it off". Having new panel clips on hand is very helpful with that!
Did this years ago on a Pontiac Fiero without a helper, used a jack to support and balance the door, what a PITA...
I replaced quite a few GM's with worn out bushings and pins. I have seen some of the 2 door Regals and Cutlases where the owner let the bad pins go so long that the striker bolt was literally beaten out of the jam so I would have to weld a patch in the door jam. Good move John you can now smile every time you close the doors on your truck.
I have it on good authority that GM had to replace the door pins and bushings at least once before they came off the assembly line.
I did these myself on a blazer by using a floor jack under the door to hold it and then did the bottom one first, then the top. Long long ago when I was young.
I had the same Demolition Man conversation just yesterday. A friend noticed the name change in the version he was watching and I had to explain why.
Might be on the euro version, not on the Australian version , they still say Taco Bell
What a massive amount of work you guys accomplished!
If I could help Watch JR Goes replace the door hinge pins, handles, and bushings I would drink the shot of whiskey and the cold Bartle Skeets and puff on the Cannabis Cigars and get all schmoked up
My father bought new Dorman pin for his 92 GMC pickup the rollers lasted about a week and fell apart!
As the owner of an 86 Iroc-Z28,I feel this pain. The design is the same but slightly different. Third gen f body doors are extremely heavy so I can only imagine how many pins and bushings old monte Carlos went through
I think they added weight to the doors for side impact safety, but never re-designed the hinges.
The hinges weren’t changed for over 20 years while weight was added as you said,that’s the problem
I used to take the doors off my 2000 blazer ZR2 every summer. Using a high lift jack is actually easier than having a second person. The last time I did it I got the pins in and doors hung in about 5 minutes per door by myself.
Same truck, I had lousy results with the bushing/pin kit. I finally just added the metal back into the hinge and added a couple of washers also welded in and ground off to the shape of the hinge. Problem solved. The spring tool is great and absolutely mandatory.
Thanks, can not tell you how many times I've chased down an inexpensive rusty plow truck, only to open the doors and they drop. Rusty rocker panels and wheel wells I can expect, but rusty door frames/hinges are a pain.
Cunningham Machine, LLC
Machine shop in Calloway County Kentucky
makes brass bushing for the OBS Chevy trucks. They don’t split when you put the terrible powdered metal bushing in place. They are worth the money.
I had an s10 once and had to replace those pins. But I had to have the hinge welded back up because I let it go for so long that the hole was not a circle but an oval.
I had to replace mine several times I guess this is why
@@TheGwflow yeah they wear out. If you get in time, it's an easy fix but I let my go for so long that I had to have it welded back up and repainted.
The wrap looks like its come straight from saved by the bell show lol its awsome
Wrap looks sharp JR. Can’t wait to see the interior in it.
interior is going to stay stripped,, race truck..
@@camaromodschannel oh ok thanks Did JR buy the truck? I have a bad memory.lol I thought he sad something about putting a system in it. Am I just way off on his plans for it?
@@gregdiiamond3899 not sure how he got the truck. I think he did say that put a system in it.
If you pound-in the new bushings, you'll most likely crack them. Instead, use a 1/4" bolt, nut, washers, and a spacer (maybe a socket) to press the bushings into place. You can do the job with one person if you hold the door up with an engine hoist.
Engine hoist for the win.
I have also heard freezing the bushings the night before gives you a bit more wiggle room
I have a 70 year old whiz jack (bumper jack) that is great for holding up the door from the bottom. But yeah I've seen people destroy brand new hinge pin bushing by just knocking it in. Also sometimes the hole isn't round anymore and takes drilling and oversized bushings. Always had good luck with a chunk of all thread to do both at the same time.
I use my harbor freight transmission jack to hold the door up. It works great.
I’ve done that many times with the prybar method… that looks mildly easier!👍
*ABSOLUTELY my favorite part of the day!*
Re TacoBell. We have them in the UK. Not many, but most major towns have at least 1.
The suspense of hearing this thing run is killing me.
The O'Reily guys seem like theyre over JR walking in like he owns the place. He does like to just take over the computer and walk in the back a lot. :D
This bring back bad memories of my s10 blazer lol
Oh yes. I remember dealing with that issue on my Mom's Chevy Blazer...
Someone attempted to break into my v8 swapped s10 with a pry bar also! Messed up my door pretty good.
I just got done painting it yesterday. I went with the same color as the trx, graphite Crystal metallic. Looks pretty good considering it’s my first time🤟
I changed a set a long time ago and one of the bushings split. My current S10 needs them but I just deal with it because they are a pain. If you do them get an extra pin kit so you can have the bushings for when they split when you are installing them.
cool video affect when using the 3 lb hammer hitting the pins the camera vibrated.
i do so many of these that i had to buy a door hangar , which makes it so much easier , just put a bit of tension under the door and pound the pins out , you said 100k but they don't really last even that long , here in Colorado with all the dust 25k is about average.
Well thank you, ordered door pins 2 days ago for my newedge.. got a tutorial now🤷🏽♂️
If a 2nd person is not available to hold the door up, just put a floor jack on a cinder block with a piece of wood on the lift plate, and use that take the weight of the door, works like a charm.
JR them door pins in tool steel are $8.50 each I just changed mine last week
🤫 Definitely a work in progress. But should look like 👍 almost new, after you have finished working on it. Another interesting project vehicle 🤔. For sure. Enjoyable watching you fix this truck up.....
First car had a saggy driver's door- an '86 chrysler laser. It was my dad's, and he had to use the door to help transfer in/out of his wheelchair. After 150k miles it was worn out. Had to lift on it a bit to get it open easily 😕
Funnily enough, he got a '97 fairway green (only ever saw 1 other in that color) sonoma 3 door for his next vehicle. With a bunch of belltech goodies that lowered it 3". Didn't keep it long enough for the hinge pins to wear out though.
GM F bodies were the worst at saggy door syndrome! It's just simple physics, 5 foot long door hanging on 2 points. Thankfully the fix is pretty easy!
Years ago I knew a guy that rebuilt GM door hinges and sold them at car shows. He almost always sold out. Some wrecking yard would not sell him the hinges, they wanted him to buy the whole door.
I need to do this on my 85 C20, the one I am planning to take to LS Fest.
The new cab/body mounts are a great advantage to proper door pin longevity/function. Imo.
That wrap is hilarious.
I use a floor Jack or a engine crane and a strap to hold the door
JR thank you for the amazing content!
FYI use dry ice and keep all your bushing in it. It will make them smaller. Makes it go in way easier. Spray white lithium in the holes first. Keep your gloves on.
Could you do easy access door panels like aluminum door cards for the s10
Any updates on the crusher???
Another great video from JR.
I worked on a Jimmy that was so bad that I had to weld up the holes in the hinges and drill them back out to get the bushings to fit again.
Did the door pins on a 78 Monte Carlo way back. By myself
Thank god for a reengineered belt sander and an extra hand. I cut my ok’d ones and it was easy 😂
Your door holder wanted to tell his funny story about KFC in Australia and JR basically Google himself "not Australia, it was in the UK" also "not KFC it was pizzahut" lmao I think we've all been in those shoes at some point and well there goes my funny fricken story, thanks alot man lol
im glad my extended cab s10 doesnt have the 3rd door. its way more solid.
Lube and rescale the snot out of that bottom latch. I fixed mine with a new handle, but the latch being frozen still broke the new handle
I JUST so happened to be messing with the door handles and locks on my old 1989 c1500.. and oh my dear LORD.. the driver's side.. first thing that i knew was bad was a guy had his name and phone number on a refrigerator magnet behind the door card.. yeah.. so i got the interior handle and lock replaced.. fun no bggie. then the exterior handle and lock cylinder.. yes sir.. NOT GONNA HAPPEN.. hahahah it must be slightly deformed because I can NOT get a new lock cylinder inside the handle into the damn door.. it will NOT go in connected.. and there's no way in HELL it's going to go in from the inside, there's just no way it's possible.. I HATE door handles on old cars.. GOD i hate them.. haha great video JR thanks man..
Who knew it was so cheap!
I alway get stuck welding the holes in the hinges. And then drilling before I change out the pins and the copper collar
Wurth HHS-K. Fixes all ailments
We got taco bell here in Spain 🇪🇸 I for so far I know we are in europ !!! But my favorite here is five guys
I thought I saw shiny paint on the crank pulley but I’m not sure. Did you paint it?
If you lube the door hinges properly, you will never need to replace the pins. A dry lube spray like CRC 3044 Dry PTFE Lube, CRC 3084 Dry Moly Lube or CRC 3094 Dry Graphite Lube should be used. Never use oil or grease because dust sticks to them and turns the lubricant into a grinding compound.
Continuity error the whole episode! How did the S10 suddenly unwrap itself?
It didn't. They only wrapped one side the other night. You can clearly see the one side is wrapped (you can see the blue overlapping the bedside th-cam.com/video/9Ad4C37-wXc/w-d-xo.html ) the entire episode when they are working on the driver side door and they move to the passenger side briefly at one point towards the end showing it wrapped.
Any updates on Gabe's saturn?
John Ross: "It was Demolition Man not Renaissance Man, it was the European version not the Australian version, and it was Pizza Hut not KFC" all without taking his eyes off the task at hand. Had me loling.
My 92 s10 driver door have the same problem. Middle pen.. it sucks when it rains.... come fix mine....
I looked everywhere for pins for the third door… looks like it’s unobtanium… actually doesn’t even exist… third door is the cab apparently.. my third door moves more then your front door did… my fox was to take it to a buddies body shop and we drilled them out and put in universal pins… good as new :)
You had no time for Jordan misremembering random Demolition Man trivia
I had to have the mount welded back on my minivan because it was ripping itself off the body. 😅
Very nice 👍🏻 going to be a monster 👹
I have new pin/bushing kits for my Chevy G20 van. Just need to find someone to install them. Body shop? Regular repair shop? I don't have the means to do it.
I think every GM car I've had needed door pins. I actually bought them for my Blazer but never put them on. lol
Pizza hut is dead, the last restraint is about to close.
Ha that bit about Demolition Man is true I bought a DVD from somewhere cause I thought I lost my other one and when it got to that part I was like pizza hut pretty sure they said it was Taco Bell and sure enough when I found my old DVD of Demolition Man it said Taco Bell I was like wtf did I buy lol
I think the version on Netflix is "pizza hut" too 🍕
@@WatchJRGo really lol I need to watch it and see!
I need to do that job on my Corvair. I am not looking forward to it.
Did you ever find a title for it?
Yanking on 20yr old Chevy plastics gives me a different type of anxiety lol
Not one clip broke... don't ask me how 😳
No Taco Bell in Europe? You lucky bastards
No more creaky sounds!
I have tortured memories of those rods inside the door of my Saturns, having to remove those to get the interior door panel off to change speakers. I lost much blood.
I learned a few things to dyi
Endura pins make S10 pins and bushings out of tool grade steel and you never have to replace them. They make themfor all GM trucks S10 pickup S10 Blazers gmt400 gmt800 and a lot of others
Sorry I didn't see the video first where you knew about Endura pants but when the hinges are worn out and you replace with new bushings they tend to make a new bushings fail way quicker than 100,000 cuz of the whole is wallered out
Nice wrap job but the area under the right door handle is still messed up. Too bad you couldn't fix that before you wrapped it.
I usually show my old car doors pictures of sleek sexy doors with all the female passengers.... that usually stops their sagging for a few months.🤨 Cheers mate.
There's a guy in one of my s10 groups that makes hardened pins and they're cheap.
JR, 8:06 We DO have Taco Bells in Europe Quite a bit asa a matter fact. Nearest one to me is just 10 kilometers away.. :) When do we get WatchJRTravelsToEU series?
Ps. there's also PizzaHuts, KFCs Subways and so on at this continent so you would not starve here..
I hate it when that happens...
0:05 that is a FORD
JR turns to the parking lot and no GM trucks
Yo!
Somebody called your S10 a Barbie the other day 😂😂
This only works if the pin holes aren’t completely worn out of round, which is the case with most of these trucks.
I still think you should call this thing the Taco BelLS10.
That top hinge is bent that's it keeps breaking the bushing
All these old. GM trucks (camera turns to a couple fords ) 😂
Yo
strange, always though that when you open saggy doors you hear "I'm the man of constant sorrow".
Did I miss an episode on this build because I'm wondering why they are spending time on door pins instead of, you know, getting the engine running. Are they waiting for parts? I don't get it. The most important part of the build, and it's being left for the last minute. I will have to go back and rewatch some episodes I guess.
JR said the engine ran when he got it, so I'm guessing he's not worried about it. Clock's ticking, though!
100,000 miles out of a Dorman part.... hahaha hahaha 😆 sure, right...!
Dorman, where quality is job 517.