Dokken "Breakin' The Chains" 1981 German Carrere Pressing
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- Audio taken from the German Carrere release of the album under the Don Dokken name. The Mix on this release sounds a bit different than the later US release
Tracklist:
1. Breakin' The Chains
2. Seven Thunders
3. I Can See You
4. In The Middle
5. We're Illegal (Later changed to Live to Rock, Rock to Live)
6. Paris (Studio Version)
7. Stick To Your Guns
8. Young Girl
9. Felony
10. Nightrider
Love this original better than the re -release that most know. Talked to Lynch after a show and he said he much preferred this version.
If this is a Don Dokken release George wouldn't be on it
@@beyondbeleef1013 They didnt hate each other in 81.
Ok , this is cool to hear their early sound. I can’t say it’s better but it’s definitely way less produced. Really dynamic but reminds me of me and my rocker buddies with a 4 track recorder in our garage in 1986. Thanks for the upload. Dons singing is really good here.
Jody who was I. The band for this release ? Was it still Don, jaun, mick and george?
I love the guitar tone on this version. Some much more raw and punchy.
I think its because you can barely hear the rhythm guitar within the verse.
Its gots more Punch and judy
It has mores balls
Seven thunder sounds 10 times better with this production
Thanks for this, Jody. For me this is the one and only true "Breakin`the chains" recording. This is pure Dokken. The U.S.- Mix sounds a bit thin and hollow in comparison. - Anyway, DOKKEN is one of the best rock bands ever. - Ride free, Al -
No this is why they had issues in the band. Don had the vocals turned up and the guitar hollowed out which is why Lynch eventually split.
This album was recorded before Lynch Pilson and Brown joined the band per Don Dokken in a later interview..BUT, just think what might have been if Don Dokken had replaced Claus Mein of the Scorpions (it was a done deal but Claus made a miraculous recovery) and if Lynch had actually got to record with Ozzh Osborne after Randy Rhodes died ( George officially had the gig to replace Rhodes for 3 days until Ozzies wife and Manage Sharon decided to go with Jacki Lee because he looked prettier…TRUE STORY) just think what might or what might NIG have been
@@joseywales4874 They NEVER got along well. It was always Don's band and he basically tolerated George because of his insane talent.
@gfy1308 This is with Lynch, Brown and Peter Baltes.
@@gfy1308 That's not accurate. George never actually had the gig as they hated his short hair and his robotic moves. They were still looking and George was their backup if they couldn't find someone they were truly happy with.
I got the vinyl-album and vinyl-single!
Thanx god, for this mindblowing album, listening, since release and over decates, 'til now..!!!
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The cliff Bernstein signed mix turned down Don's guitar, upped his vocals and George's leads. I didn't know for years that this was 90% Don Dokken.
Dons guitar definitely needed to be eased down. The picking sound he makes is a little too noticeable and of course you'd turn George up lol
Thanks for posting this Jody! Dokken has always been one of my favorite bands and I've never hear this before.. Awesome!!
Don played guitar on the album too.
This album has a very raw sound it very cool and Don sounds great
*Ok so after lot of researching this is my version how EU version of album was made:* Recording for Breakin' The Chains probably started in late summer of 1981. Don Dokken went to Germany some time prior to actual recording and made studio demos which helped Dokken to be signed by Carrere few weeks later. These songs apparently were "Paris", "Young Girls" and "Stick To Your Guns" (tracks B1 to B3 on 1981 LP). Line up for this was Don Dokken (vocals/guitar) joined by Peter Baltes from Accept on bass and Bobby Blotzer (former Don Dokken's drummer between 1976-1978 when they were known as Airborn). In meantime, when record deal was probably already signed the rest of the band made it to Europe (except Juan Croucier) but recorded only the rest of the songs from LP (tracks A1-A5 and B4-B5 on 1981 LP) because they probably didn't want to waste time/money re-recording the first 3. So the line-up for these was Don Dokken - vocals/guitar, George Lynch - guitar, Peter Baltes - bass and Mick Brown - drums. What do you think?
I think Greg Leon went to Europe with Don to do the demos as guitarist.
@@wickedmountain. Greg is my amp tech (and still a great guitarist). He was the Dokken guitarist who went to Europe for the demos in 79 or 80. Wasnt George's time yet.
@@Bridging_the_Political_Divide Yea i heard his playing when he was with Dubrow he is good.
@@wickedmountain . Agreed, by 81, Greg was gone. I saw some Dokken album from 1978 recently online that said George....not sure how that could be. Anyway, George said Ozzy and Sharon didnt treat him very well. I guess he spent a few weeks with them doing stuff and wasnt paid anything. He said as a young struggling father with kids to feed, it was very disappointing they didnt give him anything for his time over 2 or 3 weeks.
@@Bridging_the_Political_Divide Bobby Blotzer is on two tracks here rest is mick brown.
This sounds so much better than the other version I grew up with. Stick to Your Guns on here is 100% better. (just one example why this version is better)
Also like Paris is Burning here much better compared to the later release which was a faux live deal.
Just noticed you have the whole album here no just the first track--thank you for uploading this!
Awesome, thanks for this! Sounds better & heavier than the US version imo.
Then I need my ears checked because this mix sounds flatter and murkier than the livelier and brighter US mix.
That moment you realize don is a great lead guitar player!
How am I supposed to understand that Comment?
@@eric_sandstrom don recorded this without George is what he stated in an interview
@@hollandrocksls George is credited as lead guitar on the back of this album. Google this: "Don Dokken - Breakin' The Chains (Original Carrere Records German pressing) 1981 - [STU/320]"
If you can’t recognize the classic Lynch playing I don’t know what to tell you. Hint this was recorded with Lynch. 😉
@@Actaruz hint ? I'll trust the guy that was actually there over you sorry.
the best singer💪💪💪
Nice to hear a different version of these songs
Much better tacklisting than original release
It's not just a different mix it's a different recording altogether
I have read where Don said this recording was just remixed for the US release
Slightly re-recorded, but definitely remixed.
I agree. I could go each every difference I hear. ATM in where I am on the recording, different harmonies on "I Can't See You".
about 90% of everything on this version is on the remix.
Most of the vocals, all the guitars, all the drums.
If you listen to both versions, you can totally tell what was added or changed.
Guitars were added and some "re-amped" (a process where the tape track is fed into an amplifier and re-recorded) and some bass changed and some sampled on the drums to make them sound bigger on the remix.
Obviously, the vocals to "We're Illegal" are all redone with new lyrics, and "Stick To Your Guns" has a new bassline, some new guitars and vocals.
False. They're called overdubs. Wasn't re-recorded.
Thank you thank you thank you for uploading this thoroughly enjoying it. Loving that raw sound
thank you
LOVE IT THANKS
This is funny because this mix is crunchier and the US mix is very wispy, and Dokken at their absolute best are smack dab right in the middle and that's where they stayed from this album until BFTA.
Metal Rules
Sounds way tougher then the us version
I like this version totally cool
But the us version of In the middle, I can’t see you sounds so much better and the live version of Paris is burning is great
Rockin' with Dokken!! Wearing my BITE shirt lol! No such thing as a coincidence
Few things... There is no way that logo was used for this original release.
I can't see you is SOO different. Woah! wait is this one? (LTR;RTL) Still waiting for "Paris" (It's awesome!)
Freakin AMAZING
Beyond the mix and some vocals tracks... some Solos are different from the 1983 US Release...
16:51 We're Illegal (Live To Rock, Rock To Live)
24:04 Stick To Your Guns
Holy speaker cone on that guitar amp.
I'm a rookie. What do you mean?
Basically the same but doesn't have George's aggressive playing. It needs that
US mix sounds a lot better in my opinion, although this is still good, but it sounds too compressed to me. Don's voice was as good as anybodys.
It takes "talent" to neuter Don's 80's voice but they somehow managed to do it on this mix. It sounds shrill and murky, even though his voice was smooth and clear for the most part on this album, which the re-mix really brings out.
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I'd vote for this pressing over the French one.
no doubt this version is better. I always thought this was Dokken's weakest record but this version makes me at least reconsider that. It has a raw edge that I like better than the US one, other than the title track
Sounds similar to Accept
Any versions of the 1981-version that are in stereo?
Yes definitely. This is a bad extraction of the audio and is only one channel in mono for some reason.
I love this mix more than the Elektra mix!
Wish I could find this on CD or digital download. :(
Search Dokken Breakin’ the Chains original Carrere Zodiac 348, it’s out there
I was really interested and excited to hear this Euro mixed and released of the first Dokken album. I was expecting something really cool sonically. Some people think this Euro version/mix is better than the US mix? Hmmm.... That's like thinking that UFO's albums are rich and full recordings. BTW, I LOVE UFO, and all their albums. However, their albums sound as thin as this mix. The only thing this Euro mix has over the rather compressed sounding and feeling sound, is the over use of reverb, on both the vocals and guitar. So, no, I do not and can not agree that this mix is "better" than the US release. Why? Because it's just not.
I'm shocked myself. After hearing so much about this mix I was expecting to be blown away, instead I'm hearing these songs fall flat on their faces. Glad I didn't shell out big bucks for this! Kudos to those who cleaned out their ears and gave us the US mix.
@@roswellminard9350 I think here is the flat version of this album, which sounds like a “mono”, I have no idea why. I have an original German Carrere vinyl and it sounds fantastic.
@@dmitriygres7717sure you do
@@ytr3488 Why wouldn't he?
Amazing album! Is there a way you can buy this somewhere?
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Hope Don dokken release breaking the chains 40th anniversary that has all versions of this record
long time ago, I had it 👏👍😎
why no cd version 🤔
\m/ teasing me on Facebook group, now here lolol \m/
I hear an subtle echo in the voice that I did not hear original
Guess who is having a birthday coming up.....❤
This sounds more like the French pressing to me, the German one has a more full sound similar to Tooth and Nail. This is still good tho
This is definitely the German Pressing. This was ripped directly from my vinyl copy. I also posted the French Pressing, which I also ripped from vinyl.
Thanks like this recording better than the us...my opinion
I've heard that Peter Baltes of Accept is playing bass on this. Don't know who the drummer is.
Comments on some of the other songs posted claim it's Bobby Blotzer. But who knows.
It's actually mick
Depending on the song, it's either Mick or Blotz
It's not Blotzer. It's all Mick Brown.
Peter Baltes plays bass on this entire album.
Juan Croucier played bass on the live "Paris Is Burning" and the retakes of "Stick To Your Guns" and his brother Tom plays bass on "Live To Rock".
@@WesStillman you might want to check out the comments here- th-cam.com/video/PffdRrlYTHA/w-d-xo.html
It's hard to say which mix is better, you almost have to take it on a track by track basis.
If you like the more commercially acceptable, rounder corners, key boards, then the second version is for you. If you like an organic sounding, almost garage version then this version has it. Also has studio version of Paris.
Is there anyway you could realese felony and night rider separately off this album would be sick
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I'm hoping this audio was just damaged through copying. It sounds like someone used their pocket tape recorder to record it while listening from the other side of a wall. Completely muffled, thin, and dead. Go listen to the "Dokken" version of this now and see what I mean.
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Either Blotzer is playing Paris, or he ripped off Wild Mick almost 100% for the intro to Sweet Cheater. It actually sounds like Blotz. Would explain why they switched to a live version with Mick for the American release.
I also Thnk they swapped the song because It’s micks song too he and George was the original creators of the song with the rest of the members in exciter and why wouldn’t they use that live recording it has some of george’s best lead work on it.
Mick. All tracks.
Who's the idiot that lists Linda Perry and Christina Aguilera? I think Linda Perry was a teenager during this time and Aguilera was an infant (if she was even born yet)
Lol
She was no where close to being born yet!!
I always hated the production value of both Breaking the Chains US release and Tooth And Nail. It always sounded cheap to me. I know it is what it is, but still doesn't mean I havae to love those for that. Great songs but recorded poorly and they just let it ride.
Question: "What do the seven thunders in Revelation 10:1-7 mean?"
Answer: The seven thunders appear in Revelation 10:1-7. In his apocalyptic vision, the apostle John saw a mighty angel striding the sea and the land with a scroll in his hand. The angel gave a shout like the roar of a lion, and then the voices of the seven thunders spoke. Just as John was about to write down what they said, a voice from heaven told him to “seal up what the seven thunders have said and do not write it down” (Revelation 10:4).
The incident of the seven thunderous voices occurs in the interlude between the sixth and seventh trumpets. The seven thunders are not just the usual noise of thunder but are thunder-like voices communicating a message. The Greek word translated “thunder” means “to roar.” Thunder is often a mark of judgment in Scripture as in 1 Samuel 2:10, 2 Samuel 22:14, and several more places in Revelation (8:5, 11:19, 16:18), so these seven powerful voices are crying out for God’s judgment upon the sinful earth. The thunder represents the voice of God. Psalm 18:13 says, “The LORD thundered from heaven; the voice of the Most High resounded.”
Further evidence of the seven thunders being the voice of God is in Revelation 4:5: “From the throne came flashes of lightning, rumblings and peals of thunder. Before the throne, seven lamps were blazing. These are the seven spirits of God.” Again the voice of God is depicted as thunderous rumblings that display the power, majesty and glory of our mighty Lord. In this verse, John saw a preview of the divine wrath to be poured out on the earth as described in full in Revelation chapters 16-19.
Just as John was about to write the words of the seven thunders, a voice from heaven commands him to seal up what was revealed by them. The same throne that issues forth lightning and peals of thunder issues a command to keep secret what the voices have revealed. The reason for the sealing is not given, but it could be that the judgment was simply too terrifying to be recorded. The content of the message is never revealed in Scripture, so we can’t speculate on it. The seven thunders are the only words in Revelation that are sealed.
True and Don Dokken is a man of faith as well, the rapture is very close, seeing the beginning of the black horse, rising costs in food etc... god bless
@@DR676767 really? Is Don a Born Again Believer in Christ Jesus? You must be Born Again to enter the Kingdom of God.
Nicodemus *said to Him, “How can a man be born when he is old? He cannot enter a second time into his mother’s womb and be born, can he?” Jesus answered, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Do not be amazed that I said to you, ‘You must be born again.’ The wind blows where it wishes and you hear the sound of it, but do not know where it comes from and where it is going; so is everyone who is born of the Spirit.”
John 3:4-8
I know he has faith but as far as born again I’m not sure, I know George Lynch the guitar player believes you should believe whatever which is false, I respect what you said though, Jesus is the only way into heaven, check out revelation mark hardy on here brother, god bless
@@DR676767 I pray 🙏🏻 that God The Father, God The Son Jesus Christ, and The Holy Spirit 🕊️🔥 soften all the members of Dokken...Don, George, Jeff & Mick before it's too late. I believe we are in The End Times... The End of God's GRACE...Before the antichrist is revealed, before The Great 7 Year Tribulation period...The Time of Jacob's Trouble...for the Jewish people to come to Faith. Thank you, brother for the reply and for the recommendation. God is So So Slow to Wrath, Abounding in LOVE...but Time is running out!! I can only Pray 🙏🏻 for more to be Saved...I cannot make anyone believe... it's up to everyone to Seek The TRUTH... JESUS CHRIST. JOHN 14:6
God Bless You Richly, Brother in Christ 🙏🏻🕊️🔥
Okay. Great musical discussion. BTW, God is spelled always with capital "G" for you all prophets that love to throw your shift on others.
Prefer the American version 100%.
It's nice to hear a different take on the old songs.
Yea the us mix is so much better and the live version of Paris is burning is so much better than the studio version.
I agree, the re-mix adds much needed depth and dynamics, and this original version sounds kind of 70's blah, and Dokken sounds better with a more "80's" type mix.
@@_vixen_4504 that guitar solo at the beginning of the live version sets that song off.
@@_vixen_4504it's not a real live version. Just the cheering and audience.
It’s an interesting listen, but I think the U.S mix is better, there’s too much reverb on this one for my taste.
Horrible