There seriously needs to be a box set of demos, outtakes, rarities etc of this legendary band all nicely mixed and mastered. Make it happen before it's too late Donald and co!!
I dunno how much mastering would help if the source material is low quality, as is sadly the case with the Gaucho Sessions, among others. Or maybe Fagen's been sitting on good quality masters this whole time >_>
I couldn't agree more Valerie; that being said, people wrongly refer to Steely Dan as a band; they stopped being such band after Jim Hodder died, it was then that Fagen & Becker morphed into possibly the most productive and interesting song writing team since Lennon & McCartney, Gamble & Huff or Bacharach & David. Just my humble opinion of course.
Fagen and Becker are the 20th Century's Mozart. Coupled with mystical/sardonic/ lyrics that bleed the angst and alienation within us make their music a spiritual experience for me. Becker's passing had me crying all day. I don't have any heroes but Fagen comes the closest. Words only diminish the intensity of what his voice has sung to me all these decades.
I once thought what a drag it is to get old, but then I realized how many more years of absorbing the greatest band ever, I gained from it all. Blessed to be there from the beginning.
This is fascinating stuff. It bears mentioning of course that both Black Cow and I Got The News didn't actually appear on Katy Lied but two albums later on Aja, but it's really cool to hear these early interpretations of them.
this is amazing,most songs are just a little different than the albums i have the Katie lied is a favorite,i love the little difference its so cool to hear the songs a little different
I am digging "Everyone Has Gone to the Movies"....in spite of the funky wah guitar, lol...truly incredible to hear these Dan demos...."Mr LePage", nervous lol
That was actually one of their older demos. Back before they released Can't Buy A Thrill. I recommend checking those. They're on all streaming services. Any World is in B on that one instead of C
Whoa ... thanks you for the share ... is there a demo version of Countdown to Ecstasy ... not be greedy but it's my favorite album. My fave era of SD. Thank you!
This is simply beautiful Thank you Admission: As much as I love this album I could without hearing “Daddy don’t live...” “Everyone’s Gone to..”ever again! even “Rose Darlin” has worn thin on me These demos breathed a little life back into all 3 of them for me Vocal-less Gold Teeth shows just how well thought out that cut was And yes to “Throw back...” it’s the best one on here IMO three 🙏🏽
I like this version of I Got The News. I understand that the version that ended up on Aja is somewhat superior but this is such a nice blend of the "old" and the "new" Steely Dan sound from the time of Katy Lied which was a transition for them in every possible way.
25:32 Chain Lightning “Forty years later”… from Metal Leg Issue 9 (April 1989): DF: Even the clue wouldn’t have helped. I’ll tell you what the clue was. In the guitar break just before the second verse I was going to say “40 years later,” but we decided it wasn’t a good musical idea.
Great finds! Personally, I prefer the piano and vocal demos of "Black Cow." I'm sure the haters will attack me for saying this, but the released version on "Aja" feels more monotonous and sterile. These demos have more soul and funk.
I think it's great to hear their early stuff, Donald sounds like he did on those early Demo's that are knocking about. This Chain Lightning sounds like provocative swing music, they've done other songs I consider to be swing particularly Donald on his own. I like I've Got The News but wasn't too keen on Black Cow - which is one of my favourites normally.
Fucking brilliant. Does Becker's estate have a problem with reaping millions more from Walter's genius? This stuff is pure gold and even packaged minimally would be bought by millions.
It's copyright claimed, so I'm not profiting off of this video. The only thing I'm profiting is exposure to my channel, which I could take or leave honestly.
@@wubbsdingus4320 Totally understand. My point was if Becker estate is holding up any kind of "official" release they do so leaving a lot of legit fandom $$$ on the table. I also agree that money isn't everything. Personally I'm grateful as hell for your channel.
@@jonstone55 Ah yes. They could totally profit a shit ton of money if they just opened the SD/WB vault. I know there's some TH-cam channel that has a lot of demos and archived music somewhere. His estate is pretty great about upholding his wishes to keep his demos free and accessible. Also, thanks for the gratitude. It is much appreciated.
@@wubbsdingus4320 Sure thing. Did you ever upload outtakes of unreleased versions from the same record from OP? Quick bio: Made pilgrimage to see them in '74 as college freshman. But was a freak fanatic from day 1, amassing vinyl, tape, etc. oddities, on years-long quest.
@@jonstone55 Yes, there is Katy Lied Demos and Katy Lied Outtakes on my channel. Thanks for sharing your experience! SD is so great. My favorite band by far.
Michael Omartian, David Paich - piano, keyboards Hugh McCracken - guitar Denny Dias - guitar (solo on "Your Gold Teeth II") Rick Derringer - guitar (solo on "Chain Lightning") Dean Parks - guitar (solo on "Rose Darling") Elliott Randall - guitar (solo on "Throw Back the Little Ones") Larry Carlton - guitar on "Daddy Don't Live in That New York City No More" Wilton Felder, Chuck Rainey - bass guitar Jeff Porcaro - drums on all songs except "Any World (That I'm Welcome To)", dorophone Hal Blaine - drums on "Any World (That I'm Welcome To)" Victor Feldman - vibraphone, percussion Phil Woods - alto saxophone solo on "Doctor Wu" Jimmie Haskell - horn arrangement on "Throw Back the Little Ones" Bill Perkins - horn on "Throw Back the Little Ones" Michael McDonald - background vocals Myrna Matthews, Sherlie Matthews, Carolyn Willis - background vocals on "Everyone's Gone to the Movies"
@@patrickpowell5430 At least he actually sang his music, unlike people who can't/don't, especially today with auto tune and heavy production standards.
@@wubbsdingus4320 That's a certainly true of the fabricated EDM crap on the radio, and as a guy who enjoys pissing around recording with DAW though NOT EDM, I know what you can get away with and then some, but there are a great many other singers in many genre who are also good singers and don't rely on Melodyne etc.
What is this malarkey?!?! This is not the Katy Lied that I grew up listening to. I'm not sure what kind of scam you're trying to pull but this is not the Katy Lied album by Steely Dan!
There seriously needs to be a box set of demos, outtakes, rarities etc of this legendary band all nicely mixed and mastered. Make it happen before it's too late Donald and co!!
Seriously. I don't know why they're sleeping on this stuff, especially while Fagen is alive to write copious liner notes please.
@@billschuch6409 Maybe it's legal stuff. Or maybe it's just too much hard work or something!! But I wish someone would make it happen.
There is/where some legal issues with Becker's widow ??
I dunno how much mastering would help if the source material is low quality, as is sadly the case with the Gaucho Sessions, among others. Or maybe Fagen's been sitting on good quality masters this whole time >_>
The genius is beyond words. Steely Dan IS your favorite band's favorite band.
I couldn't agree more Valerie; that being said, people wrongly refer to Steely Dan as a band; they stopped being such band after Jim Hodder died, it was then that Fagen & Becker morphed into possibly the most productive and interesting song writing team since Lennon & McCartney, Gamble & Huff or Bacharach & David. Just my humble opinion of course.
Everyone's gone to the movies is so great. Totally different from the final version. Raw and bold. Bass going wild. Wah wah pedal. Roto tom overdubs.
Fagen and Becker are the 20th Century's Mozart. Coupled with mystical/sardonic/ lyrics that bleed the angst and alienation within us make their music a spiritual experience for me. Becker's passing had me crying all day. I don't have any heroes but Fagen comes the closest. Words only diminish the intensity of what his voice has sung to me all these decades.
Damn that Black Cow demo is blowing my mind
I once thought what a drag it is to get old, but then I realized how many more years of absorbing the greatest band ever, I gained from it all. Blessed to be there from the beginning.
Doctor Wu ALWAYS has that chill groove !! Are you with me doctor(s) ??
So cool to hear raw different versions of what are now classics ! Both Black Cow & I got the news are totally on another planet :-)
I LOVE I Got The News
I know almost better than the release
“Gary’s on the phone with the lizard and she tells him that she’s lookin to move.” ...am I hearing those lyrics correctly?
@@found_documents Yes
I just came across this post and all I can say is WOW! Supremely excellent!!!
Thank you so very much for putting this on TH-cam ❤️❤️❤️❤️
I love the basslines in those demos. Much more adventurous and participative than on the official recording.
This is fascinating stuff. It bears mentioning of course that both Black Cow and I Got The News didn't actually appear on Katy Lied but two albums later on Aja, but it's really cool to hear these early interpretations of them.
That 27:45. Sublime clean guitar solo
Thank You for the joy that you add by sharing these gems. Bravo
Lord...I do not know how, but THANK YOU, friend.
Musical Soul Food! Have never heard this demo versikon. Tops my having heard everything recorded till now. Thanks.
this is amazing,most songs are just a little different than the albums i have the Katie lied is a favorite,i love the little difference its so cool to hear the songs a little different
I am digging "Everyone Has Gone to the Movies"....in spite of the funky wah guitar, lol...truly incredible to hear these Dan demos...."Mr LePage", nervous lol
le jimmy page
@@curbhopper66 whoa I never thought of it that way... seriously...I thought it was a glue sniffing reference...hahaha
Great! Didn't know these demos existed in the public domain!
Bruh no “Any world”? Literally my favorite song on this album
That was actually one of their older demos. Back before they released Can't Buy A Thrill. I recommend checking those. They're on all streaming services. Any World is in B on that one instead of C
@@wubbsdingus4320 shit you’re right I remember hearing that. Thanks.
Thank you, this was the first album I bought of Steely Dan. Love the creativity and less polish than on the amazing Aja and Gaucho.
Wooooowza! This is the playground for Dan fanatics like me!
Yes. Hello and welcome!
Your gold teeth II is sooo good!!!
I Got the News: the tune was TOTALLY different :D
Love the outtakes... gives me so much perspective as a producer/songwriter
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Me as well!
soooo good, i think it is their best album
Whoa ... thanks you for the share ... is there a demo version of Countdown to Ecstasy ... not be greedy but it's my favorite album. My fave era of SD. Thank you!
BEAUTIFUL!
Thanks from Rosario, Argentina!
This is simply beautiful
Thank you
Admission:
As much as I love this album I could without hearing “Daddy don’t live...” “Everyone’s Gone to..”ever again!
even “Rose Darlin” has worn thin on me
These demos breathed a little life back into all 3 of them for me
Vocal-less Gold Teeth shows just how well thought out that cut was
And yes to “Throw back...” it’s the best one on here IMO three
🙏🏽
I like this version of I Got The News. I understand that the version that ended up on Aja is somewhat superior but this is such a nice blend of the "old" and the "new" Steely Dan sound from the time of Katy Lied which was a transition for them in every possible way.
Drums by 20 y/o Jeff Porcaro.
Born with God given talent . Such pocket
25:32 Chain Lightning “Forty years later”… from Metal Leg Issue 9 (April 1989): DF: Even the clue wouldn’t have helped. I’ll tell you what the clue was. In the guitar break just before the second verse I was going to say “40 years later,” but we decided it wasn’t a good musical idea.
"molecule in hand, oh the sirens and the band, got them bendin' my ear"
I now listen to this more than the album itself (my favorite of theirs, since I was a teen in the '70s).
“Katy Lies
You could see it in her eyes.
But imagine my surprise when I saw you”
This is really cool.
Always love when demos show up on two albums' outtakes like gullywater from cbat here or talkin bout my home also from cbat on gaucho
I just like Steely Dan haha
Great finds! Personally, I prefer the piano and vocal demos of "Black Cow." I'm sure the haters will attack me for saying this, but the released version on "Aja" feels more monotonous and sterile. These demos have more soul and funk.
Yeah I can definitely hear what you mean. It's more raw and funky, and if you love funk, that's what you love to hear. I know I do.
wonderful they kept on Black Cow till 77.
Gonna have to 2nd u on Throw Back the Little Ones. Beauty through and through
the heros of rock>>we love u steely dan!>>>i love this one of big black cow, ya'll made it marvoulous! on the album ;)
Wonderful. From Italy 🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹
Thank you.
A masterpiece
Thirty years ago, these raw versions would had been perfectly finished product.
On a bluster cold night, I stroll into the hotel bar, and I hear a familiar sound....Fagan on the piano playing Black Cow ...lol
Great to hear these sessions. it's like reading an old score by beethoven verdi or rachmannivov
None mentioned but bad sneakers version on here Is interesting to say the least, even though he’s singing it in different key.
I hope Donald fagan's doing all right but I also hope that he doesn't let this band go to waste we miss you Walter Becka
I think it's great to hear their early stuff, Donald sounds like he did on those early Demo's that are knocking about. This Chain Lightning sounds like provocative swing music, they've done other songs I consider to be swing particularly Donald on his own. I like I've Got The News but wasn't too keen on Black Cow - which is one of my favourites normally.
Wow. Do you have more of these? Amazing
That's allll I got
great stuff
it’s a travesty that mr sam didn’t make the album. amazing piece of music
this is as close to being w/the mix of vocals timing delivery as it gets
Gostei mais do álbum assim do que o original , mas amo os dois !!!
black Cow, Holy Cow! compared to the other tunes, that's way out in left field...
23:42: I'm hearing Pretzel Logic.
Similar beat to it for sure.
ta mate awesome
Fucking brilliant. Does Becker's estate have a problem with reaping millions more from Walter's genius? This stuff is pure gold and even packaged minimally would be bought by millions.
It's copyright claimed, so I'm not profiting off of this video. The only thing I'm profiting is exposure to my channel, which I could take or leave honestly.
@@wubbsdingus4320 Totally understand. My point was if Becker estate is holding up any kind of "official" release they do so leaving a lot of legit fandom $$$ on the table. I also agree that money isn't everything. Personally I'm grateful as hell for your channel.
@@jonstone55 Ah yes. They could totally profit a shit ton of money if they just opened the SD/WB vault. I know there's some TH-cam channel that has a lot of demos and archived music somewhere. His estate is pretty great about upholding his wishes to keep his demos free and accessible. Also, thanks for the gratitude. It is much appreciated.
@@wubbsdingus4320 Sure thing. Did you ever upload outtakes of unreleased versions from the same record from OP? Quick bio: Made pilgrimage to see them in '74 as college freshman. But was a freak fanatic from day 1, amassing vinyl, tape, etc. oddities, on years-long quest.
@@jonstone55 Yes, there is Katy Lied Demos and Katy Lied Outtakes on my channel. Thanks for sharing your experience! SD is so great. My favorite band by far.
27:26
Lester the nightfly,from where???
0:00 is actually Black Friday
Oh yeah thanks
Coolbeans 👍
@@davemayo8837 I thought we Worcesterires only said koolbeans lolz 😹😂😹
Ronaldo Laquidara yeah man
"I Got the News" sure got better by the time of Aja
Очень хорошо, просто тащусь
Cool but sad that Any World That I'm Welcome To isn't here
Please read Stockman's comment thread :)
Cool
Do you have a list of musicians who played in this demo? Thanks.
Michael Omartian, David Paich - piano, keyboards
Hugh McCracken - guitar
Denny Dias - guitar (solo on "Your Gold Teeth II")
Rick Derringer - guitar (solo on "Chain Lightning")
Dean Parks - guitar (solo on "Rose Darling")
Elliott Randall - guitar (solo on "Throw Back the Little Ones")
Larry Carlton - guitar on "Daddy Don't Live in That New York City No More"
Wilton Felder, Chuck Rainey - bass guitar
Jeff Porcaro - drums on all songs except "Any World (That I'm Welcome To)", dorophone
Hal Blaine - drums on "Any World (That I'm Welcome To)"
Victor Feldman - vibraphone, percussion
Phil Woods - alto saxophone solo on "Doctor Wu"
Jimmie Haskell - horn arrangement on "Throw Back the Little Ones"
Bill Perkins - horn on "Throw Back the Little Ones"
Michael McDonald - background vocals
Myrna Matthews, Sherlie Matthews, Carolyn Willis - background vocals on "Everyone's Gone to the Movies"
@@tonyv47 I think those are the personnel notes for the studio album, not these demos
Does anyone know if this is Porcaro on drums on all of these? It sounds like him.
I'm pretty sure it is. He played on the record, so I wouldn't be surprised if he played in the demos.
yes, it's jeff thru the whole demos & album, hal blaine plays drums on one track not on this demo "Any World (That I'm Welcome To)"
Ahhh yea..."The Groove Master" in all his glory
Donald Fagen sounds a little rough sometimes, got to say.
Yeah, but these are just demos so it's not like he wanted to sound super clean.
@@wubbsdingus4320 Yes, but singing is singing is singing. No wonder he always double-tracked on recordings.
@@patrickpowell5430 At least he actually sang his music, unlike people who can't/don't, especially today with auto tune and heavy production standards.
@@wubbsdingus4320 That's a certainly true of the fabricated EDM crap on the radio, and as a guy who enjoys pissing around recording with DAW though NOT EDM, I know what you can get away with and then some, but there are a great many other singers in many genre who are also good singers and don't rely on Melodyne etc.
Who's sleeping on Biscayne Bay ?
He didnt say in this version. Calm down.
Cuban gentlemen.
@@MargauxKim_13 - not in this version, it isn't.
“The idlers “ I think.
Katie lied the song is not here. 29:29 and 32:57 i don,t know,it,s really cool thoughthanks for this post
Black Cow piano is so cool
I got the news from Aja is so different and real cool
35:21.
Complete with the awful swish o sound amateurish applied noise reduction. Too bad.
I think the worst song on this album for sound is the back half of Dr. Wu. Donald sounds like his mouth is still frozen from the dentist..
@@waynesorensen7071 Yep, same thing on my 1975 vinyl album, that noticeable sibilance when he sings the words "Cuban gentlemen."
I always thought steely dan kinda sucked but this actually good
What is this malarkey?!?! This is not the Katy Lied that I grew up listening to. I'm not sure what kind of scam you're trying to pull but this is not the Katy Lied album by Steely Dan!
The Royal Scam
Hahaha,the Royal Scam!!!!!