Considering how HR are investigating, the manager will likely get a note placed in his file, and you can bet the male co-worker is going to a written warning over it and it being used as a second offence, since the multiple complaints are regarding him, meaning that the next warning he gets will result in him being sacked. On top of that they would sent both to a sensitivity seminar regarding such harassment which will pointingly point out that what they were doing was consider gender discrimination. But to be honest, if I was HR, I'd be telling that male co-worker to go and find another line of work, because to be offended by such while working healthcare means you are not suited for the job.
The coworker was afraid of getting girly cooties from the tampons. Girly cooties will make his pee-pee shrivel up. Good taste requires me not to explain what girly cooties does to the family jewels. Does OP want to be responsible for coworker having a shriveled up pee-pee and discombobulated 'nads all the time he's at work? How inconsiderate!
HE had no effing business going into her or any other person's locker. This is a very major invasion of privacy, and the supervisor is way overstepping. Both should be fired.
If he's so distraught about tampons at work, maybe his female coworkers should inform him of what his work life is going to look like if they DON'T bring tampons to work. He should shut up and just be grateful that he won the biological lottery on reproductive convenience.
@@meh2510I agree. I just wonder, if he has a girlfriend /fiancé /wife. How is he's reaction when they have their period? Is he hiding in the woods every week of the month? Because he would not be able to handle it
This guy is a medical professional and can't start the sight of tampons in a locker, yeah I clean public restrooms every morning at work and I have to empty out the small trash bin they use for discarded feminine products. I deal with the sight and smell of used tampons and maxi pads every morning at a restaurant. What's his exuse?
He probably ACTUALLY does react that badly or something close. He also probably avoids those aisles like they are radioactive, likely even has a "deflector shield" for "that nasty aisle"
Story 1 - I work in health care, and I was talking over a procedure (neuro) which resulted in an HR complaint about my language. HR basically stated that if they couldn't take someone talking about things like that, they should find a career in a different industry.
Story 1: The co-workers are just ignorant. My male housemate and I have a stash of tampons/pads for our female guests. I even had some in my locker at work as I've learnt from my sisters growing up that it's not always on schedule! Those co-workers need to grow up.
The tampon team mate shouldnt be looking through someone elses locker, I think I would have made an 'unfilled vampire teabags' box just for the snowflakes benefit 😂
Oh my word! Wife's dad when she started having her period told her. Bury them in the bathroom garbage. I don't want to see your vampier snacks. Ofcourse she's modified. Well couple years later and enough pent up frustration about being teased about her period.... she made sure her dad was a ways down the aisle at the store. So really loud she hollers. Hey dad I'm out of unused vampier snacks! Can we go down the pad aisle! He was not thrilled but went with her. Why would you say that it's so embarrassing! One. You teas me all the time. Turn abouts fair play. Two. It's a normal bodily function that I have no control over and should not be considered embarrassing. She didn't get teased again.
Tampon Story: If I were OP, when the manager first told me to move or rebox the Tampons, I'd have told him to put it in writing, including WHY I'm being told to do this... If he's stupid enough to actually send that Email, I'd immediately forward it to HR with a Formal Complaint against both Manager AND the Coworker that first complained about my locker... Meanwhile, I'd be telling the Male Coworker "If you dislike what you see in my Locker, the the solution is simple...STOP LOOKING AT MY LOCKER!
I found that one a little confusing. So they were saying this man has an adult son under his guardianship due to a disability and pays for him to live with caretakers. And those caretakers brought him to the mall and allowed him to buy several phones and plans, with this intellectually disabled son also having direct access to dad's money? This seems strange on several levels.
It should always, but the guardians and advocates should be on to of that shit. I work with people with disabilities, intellectual and developmental, and I remember a guy at my old job who crashed three cars and a suspended license, buys a used car. Told his dad with a call what had happened, and it is surprising how awful people can be. He didn't look disabled but you could tell he was not fully there and capable of making decisions on his own without help. I put some of blame on the DSP on duty for not stepping into stop the transaction, as much as the coworkers shitty salesman ship. But if you are a guardian or have someone in your family that needs help to know when they are being exploited, let them know and step up for them.
Story 2: I have worked in IT for decades, and this happens when someone that knows nothing wants to assert their little bit of authority over the ones actually doing the work. I had the same type of image as OP on a drive and a Karen manager tried to do the same to me. I caught wind and before the meeting I talked to the owner of the company and told him what the manager was planing to do. They were fired the day before the meeting after the owner confirmed what I told them. I didn't lose the image.
Story 1: Why is the boss more concerned about a box of tampons (which aren’t illegal nor being used when in the box) instead of that male co-worker snooping?
I wouldn't be shocked if he's one of those men who thick women are aliens and witches for having normal bodily functions or don't follow his standards of what a woman is.
Story 5, I used to work for a combo cable/cell phone company that acted this way with taking advantage of customers. In fact, you will be berated and asked to quit if you don't take advantage of their weaknesses, like a woman who lost her husband and most of her income recently. Why didn't I try to force her to put all her other relatives on her account when she was trying to save money by cancelling her husband's phone? "It's unethical," was apparently the wrong answer.
I've got a nice malicious compliance story that the bathroom break one just reminded me, 25 years ago I was working in a newspaper, if someone knows the newspaper dynamics we have to leave to get news from the streets a lot.... and I mean A LOT. A secretary during her lunch break left the building and while she was walking to the restaurant a couple of blocks aways she slipped on a curb and twisted her ankle, at the time we had a punch card clock the thing is that since she didn't punch her lunch break outing it had to be filed as a job accident hence the newspaper gave her paid leave including hospital fees and meds, manager was furious and he stated in a report that all outing for all personnel had to be marked in the clock, we argued since press personnel had many outings we shouldn't have to comply but he was very upset and adamantly insisted in it, so enter our malicious compliance. For the next days we punched the card so many times many of them ended up breaking in two, HR was upset since they had to change it almost daily, fourth day into the compliance they voided the order for press personnel and although they tried something similar months later, they ended up giving up on the whole idea.
Story 1: I laughed so hard, I nearly fell off my chair! Good for OP's HR to back her up by saying she did use a different box! That idiot needs to be hooked up to a Period Pain Simulator with the dial cranked up to the max. setting.
@@JohnH20111 There IS such a device. I just read an article where a company had a mobile unit going around and asking men if they thought period pain (aka endometriosis) was just an over reaction by women so they hooked it up to a woman who has that issue, set it at a level where she said that was how it felt for her, then attached the electrodes (?) to a man and set it at the level that she experienced and that man only lasted maybe a minute before he couldn't take the pain.
Story 2: Another example of "I'm the head of something I have no experience in." Like, Karen's so illiterate in IT that she ended up ruining everyone's work because she thought that people hid bad stuff (p**n, I bet) in those flash drives. Glad she was eventually demoted, otherwise IT would've seriously tanked if she stayed
Having worked in government, I am surprised she was demoted. Where I worked she would have been given an award for her initiative in attempting to remove 'inappropriate material' from government computers.
@@condorboss3339 Well she caused the loss of important data to the Main Office which relies heavily on it. If it was just her office, yeah, they wouldn't care, but because she caused inconvenience for "the big boys" she got demoted. And besides she has a record for hostile workplace anyway, which just makes it easier to pin all the blame on her.
I'm gonna go out on a very short limb here and make an assumption. Karen hid bad stuff on her own devices so she assumed everyone else did the exact same thing. Less incompetence, more projection.
Maybe if she spent all her worktime filling up her own flashdirives with p**n instead of subjecting the rest of the employees to her incompetence, the department would run a heck of a lot better and she might even get a bonus out of the productivity.
Story 1: why was that male co worker going through her locker, my guess he was either trying to steal from her possibly checking to see if she left any type of underwear in there because he is a total pervert or seeing if there was money to steal. I reckon OP should file a lawsuit against the male co worker for invasion of privacy, attempted theft plus sexual harassment.
With the person in a group home they couldn’t legally enter into a contract without their guardians consent. So that was never a legal contract to begin with as it would be the same as a child.
Story 2: my guess as to why Karen wanted everything wiped was because either SHE had something that needed to be gone and that something would just get lost in the purge or she knew someone from another department get the boot because they had something bad on their computer and she figured it was everywhere.
I benefitted from a little preferential treatment at work. In our operating room, everyone worked 10 hours/4 days. I was a good employee, never late, hung over, or bitching about getting the lousy cases. I was dating a gal who eventually was my second wife, in a town 90 minutes away. I frequently got 4-day weekends. More problematic employees got fewer.
Story about new company making tardiness all the same - I worked a place like that once. Being 1 minute late was the same punishment as calling in. So a lot of times if people were stuck in unexpected traffic due to an accident or something, they would just call in and turn around and go home. They'd get paid PTO. It would still be an occurence, but they'd get the whole day off paid for the same punishment on their record as being 1 minute late. So stupid.
Exactly, if the guy was mentaly disabled, he had a guardian without whoms consent any transaction over a certain threashhold is void. Same as with a minor, any expenses should have been contestable
Tampons vs locker story: Well OP, I see two alternatives. One, lock your locker or two, get a large box of condoms and put the label over the tampon label. What? The guy is offended by condoms too? IT Karen story: I'm surprised more of the workers in OP's department simply didn't make a backup of their USB drives before turning them in, even if they didn't know they were going to be wiped. Non-profit story: So I have to ask, was the PTO accrual and roll-over policy restored to what it was previously? Phone story: OP, you made one goof. When you left that day you should have contacted Loss Prevention on your own to explain what happened. COMSEC story: Yeah, as anyone who's ever been in the military knows, we unfortunately have our Karen's as well and sometimes they hold a senior rank.
Phone story. But if OP did that, then the boss & co-worker would've taken longer to get fired, as that incident tipped off loss prevention to investigate.
@@catherinep2034 Not necessarily. I suspect it would just have caused them to keep a closer eye on the store to start with given their previous history. That likely would have resulted in them being fired sooner.
Story 5: So basically, the others exploited the system with excessive discounts and the like, and this negatively affected the store so much that Loss Prevention got involved. Like, what's the point? What do you get out of this?
This is the reason I'm glad I don't work for a phone company anymore. I was customer service and would have to try and fix issues that was caused in the store from underhanded sales.
Unpopular opinion: men who can’t handle seeing unused tampons or tampon boxes, calling them “disgusting”? If they swing that way, they shouldn’t have girlfriends or wives. Like, it’s such a strong sign of cowardice or immaturity, I can’t stand it. Like, I’d understand being a bit squeamish seeing blood or bloodied tampons, but unused tampons in a box? Feckin’ hell.
Why do NCOs have this power trip about telling them when you leave your desk. Myself and a few of my friends pulled this malicious compliance on our NCOs when we were in also. Just as in the story that got shut down real quick. Crazy.
I would think there would have been a manager involved if a person was going to buy over four phones in a purchase because of the fact they could be a potential scam going on.
First story: Why is the male coworker even going into her locker? Only the female coworkers were allowed to if they needed a hygiene product. That might be worth highlighting to corporate.
Late = getting written up story: I wonder how fast the new management would crap their pants if the entire workforce would come in 3 hours late, on the exact same day, lmao.
Story 3: the deleting of hours like that sounds illegal. If they want to delete them, they should pay them out. That's hours the employees worked for the company and they deserve compensation for them.
Story5: You can't do that. Do what, prevent a coworker from ripping a mentally disabled customer? Yes, you can't void it. Bye then! Just...wtf...I wouldn't have stuck around either
My older sister works in healthcare, and they got a new manager at one of her old jobs. The new manager was male and severely against people sitting down. Ignoring doctors note type of severe. Well, one day, a female employee is sitting on a chair, and he is mad because she is breaking his policy. She told him she is cramping really bad and just needs a minute. Well, he reported her for sexual harrassment. He also wanted her to remove her nose ring because even though she was wearing a mask, he knew it existed.
@sairus3239 He was either friends or related to a higher up. He had a ton of complaints for ignoring work restrictions and just being a total jerk, but nothing happened. My sister ended up quitting.
@@teddilupin sucks to have a boss like that... Those people can be fired only if they get a lawsuit or something... I hope your sister now have better job with at least less crappy boss.
A quick message over to HR would have been enough to resolve the whole being gone to go to the bathroom situation. Like it only take 5 minutes for the whole thing and never have to be more than a day saga.
About story five: In Germany, what the story would have been considered highly illegal and the sale voided, since the son was in a care home and it seems as if he was unable to make business as he had caretakers.
Story 1: Would he have had a similar coniption-fit if instead of tampons, OP had a roll of 2-ply toilet paper that she was as generous with sharing so that her coworkers didn't have to suffer the 1-ply mega rolls supplied by the work place? Make her stop! ...clutch my pearls 🙄
I had a boss years ago who actually followed me into the bathroom and demanded I get back to the office immediately. Thankfully, she didn't last very long...
I had a female colleague follow me into the men's toilet (2006 before all the trans thing happened) and started harassing me while I voided bowels, she wasn't involved in management or supervisory roles at all and had no right to harass me when I was using the toilet
Phone Story: If I were OP, when Boss told me a Contract is a Contract, I'd have looked him in eye and snarled "No it isn't, a Contract is NOT Legal or Valid if it's signed by someone that is not Mentally Competent! which is true in this case, the person that signed that 10 phone Contract is living in an Assisted Living Facility because he isn't mentally able to care for himself and thus, by definition, is NOT LEGALLY COMPETENT TO SIGN A CONTRACT!!! Now either you let me finish dealing with this mess my way, or I call Corporate AND the Police and you and Coworker will be out of the job and possibly Arrested by the end of the week!"
*Story 4- Something like that happened to my hubby!!!* My hubby works in a roofing warehouse, and he’s the perfect employee! *(They can’t function without him!)* They open at 7am, but he gets there a *5:30am!* And if he’s not there, things get messy, and nothing gets done! And they close at 4. _But,_ if everything isn’t pulled, he’ll stay later to finish. But, while we were on vacation *(we were even in a different state!),* someone purposely cut a cord on a crane truck! So, now *everyone’s* getting penalized for it! You can’t clock in before 7. And if everything’s done before 4, you have to find something to do, or clock out early.
Story 2 - I’m willing to guess the new head of IT saw some kind of shock and awe news piece on tv and decided to head off a non existent problem before it caused more bad things to happen without checking with her team to start with. As someone who works in IT, I’m willing to say your tools are everything. I personally have multiple usb drives I can just grab and go depending on the problem. Also, I am willing to guess the people in her department regularly check them for malware.
Health care... And this guy is offended??!! Isn't there worse things in healthcare? 😂 OP IS A GENIUS!!!! I'm so glad they showed the box cuz that is awesome!!! I'm trying to think of something that would offend a woman the way that this offended that man... And if the woman had brought it to the superior if she would have just been told to deal with it because it's ridiculous.
First story - OP got disciplined for having tampons in her locker, but the coworker didn't for going into someone else's locker? 🤔 Last story - I'm surprised that OP didn't respond with a "ma'am, yes ma'am!" like they would a drill sergeant.
Story 3: cutting vacation rollover has a negligible effect on budget, except to the extent that the allocated funds have to be rolled over - but there's no effect on the bottom line.
Story 1: OP should have immediately went to HR and filed a formal grievance for sexual discrimination against the boss...never ever allow anyone do this to you. Story 2: OP did as any IT person worth their salt would do...always have a (private) backup! Karen probably saw some kind of news video on TV and freaked out. Story 5: If the old guy's kid was classified as disabled then he could not legally sign a contract anyway. If so then the coworker committed 10 felonies by tricking him.
Last story: OP did absolutely the right thing as an airman following her sergeants order to the letter. But I'm surprised the ranking personnel waited so long to rescind such a silly order. After the first day I would have apologized and clarified immediately.
That last story, I can verify that nobody does malicious compliance like the military. And nobody in the military does malicious compliance like enlisted folks who are working in on-base desk jobs (I did both on base and field jobs, and oh boy, I have some stories).
Teachers still have to notify someone if they need to go to the bathroom- that’s how I developed kidney issues. You can’t always get coverage and have to “hold” it
Tanking vacation time ... the modern version of this is no longer providing a fixed amount, but having it all "discretionary" - which means way less than you should get, and no bank to pay out if you need to leave the company - like, retire, whatever.
In my second military hitch, I was an Electronic Tech in the US Navy. First on my ship, then at the NAVCAMSLANT communication station in Norfolk, Va. I worked on UHF radios and crypto gear. We called the NAVCAMSLANT building "the vault". A very secure facility. But our one female supervisor Chief was okay. Not a Karen. Early 1980s so maybe Karens hadn't devolved yet? 😅
The last story is a bit insane but I will say there are some jobs where it makes a bit more sense to let others know when you're away from the desk. One of my more recent jobs was in background research and our teams were state-based, so it was a courtesy thing. "Hey, I'll be afk for a few minutes, working in this section of the queue so don't touch it please." That kind of thing.
Not to just Pass right over THIS Scene from op describing the male cowarker KNOWING what EVERYTHING IN HER--OP's-- OWN WORK locker for placing personal items from home she made need for being at work,..... BUT Why DID NO ONE QUESTION THE MALE Co--WORKER on HOW WOULD **HE** KNOW EXACTLY what was in OP's LOCKER?? unless HE TOOK IT UPON HIMSELF--BEING A MAN--CHILD to Blatantly OPEN Op's PERSONAL WORKPLACE LOCKER and actually SNOOPING IN HER PERSONAL PROPERTY?!?! THAT HE HAD ABSOLUTELY NO RIGHTS NOR PERMISSIONS TO BE IN OP'S LOCKER IN THE FIRST PLACE!!!
Story 2: When I worked for the government, we had to do an annual security lesson that mentioned flash drives as one of the vectors for getting malware into the system. Karen might have taken that lesson.
The second story is ringing my alarm bells as a former IT professional (and female). One, the dig about "being too emotional". That is a common mysogynistic quote about women in a male dominated field. Two, it should not take six months to create an image. Really. Maybe a week if you're super thorough. The only reason I can think of it taking six months is not working on it more than an hour a week and having multiple sets of hardware to have to fit it to.
Story 1: how can someone in a hospital care about seeing a box of tampons. The restroom at my lab is unisex and has a box for throwing them out right next to toilet yet it has never bothered me
That karen who wiped all drives must have suspected that one of them had something on their drives that might bite her in the ass. Like the kind of proof you bring to a trial to bar her from running a business
Ok maybe I'm just weird... But WTF is wrong with tampons? For enough if they were used tampons then I could see a problem with them. But WTH? I'm a guy and I've gone into shops to pick up tampons for female friends and ex partners. Heck I probably have some laying around here somewhere left behind by my ex. Only reason I haven't thrown them out is because they're handy if one of my cousins or friends have an emergency when at my place. Like dude they're just wadds of cotton wool. Would you get grossed out over a box of plasters? A pair of clean socks? A makeup set?
Story 2: Corrupt admin types often suspect others of being as corrupt as they tend to be. Her type also claims to assume everyone else is lying about being busy because that's what they do themselves.
story 2... I am thinking that she didn't like how IT had tools to make their work easy and thought the "magic" they used was the bad stuff... and being a good evengelical "christian" had to get rid of it.
Story 2 - It's called projection. Many people think that other people will do exactly what they would do. So I'd recommend looking closely at Karen's memory stick. It most likely has the "bad stuff" on it.
#1 If it's used tampons, then it's understandable to be disgusted, though. 😅 #2 Regardless what Karen did, it's a very bad practice for IT people to not keep backups. #3 Didn't Karen read the amount of vacation time every employees have to shed within three months? If she read it, she should realized the consequences beforehand.
Story 3: I am wondering about where this story came from. See in the US at least (and most people don't know this) PTO is actually factored in as part of your salary, you are expected to take it as part of your annual compensation. The fact that she just tossed out 120 PTO hours is the same as denying actual pay to employees for 120 hours worth of work... That is a federal crime. Now as scummy as it is cutting the ceiling is one thing but she legally could not just poof anything over 80 into non existence... That is the same as saying "you been getting 14 an hour, but I think it is too much... so I am cutting pay to fit what I think is better not what you were offered upon hire." There is a reason people like that are grandfathered in... a new manager or CEO cannot downgrade you from what you were making before they came on, now anyone new would have to start under those new rules, but if it was that way before X was hired on, X can't just make it go away cause they don't like it. I am pretty sure that is a felony.
Story one - prolly shouldn’t work in the medical field if unused supplies make him squeamish. Imagine looking at a cotton ball and getting grossed out by the fact you’ll use it to apply antiseptic to a cut or scrape at some unknown point in the future.
In Germany, that disabled son could have made the buy of all the phones, but his legal guardian has 14 days to void all contracts and there's nothing the store could do. It's the same with teenagers. If he has the mind of a child of under 6-7ish, the son would be considered as unable to make a contract, but that's hard to get for anyone not a child...
Last story: ah the military. The one place where you think you would be treated as professional adults but instead, its like you're in a daycare with a staff NCO who doesn't want to go home because their spouse is being a pain and they are taking it out on you.
'A contract is a contract.' A contract requires capacity. If you are in a nursing home because you can't look after yourself for reasons other than mobility i.e. because you lack the ability to make safe rational decisions and can't understand the consequences, you do not have the capacity to contract. All such contracts are voidable.
Story 3 They had to use up 120h? Thats 13-15 days. Aka about 3 weeks 25 (5weeks) if they had to use up all 200h. And they were told at the end of october? Basically meant that half of tge rest of the year's workdays were forced vacation. And she did that to increase profit ... Yeah... no. Nothing you do can make up for half productivity.
Story 1: A male health care worker who is offended by seeing sanitary products has no business being in the health care field.
100%. The sight of clean cotton feminine products in a box, are going to be theLEAST icky of his problems.
This!!
He needs to grow up!
That he does!
Story about the tampon box. Both the male co-worker and OP's supervisor need to be disciplined for their actions. Period! (yes, pun intended)
Considering how HR are investigating, the manager will likely get a note placed in his file, and you can bet the male co-worker is going to a written warning over it and it being used as a second offence, since the multiple complaints are regarding him, meaning that the next warning he gets will result in him being sacked. On top of that they would sent both to a sensitivity seminar regarding such harassment which will pointingly point out that what they were doing was consider gender discrimination. But to be honest, if I was HR, I'd be telling that male co-worker to go and find another line of work, because to be offended by such while working healthcare means you are not suited for the job.
I'm betting HR chewed the boss a new one. Asking him if he was trying to get a huge lawsuit started.
The coworker was afraid of getting girly cooties from the tampons. Girly cooties will make his pee-pee shrivel up. Good taste requires me not to explain what girly cooties does to the family jewels. Does OP want to be responsible for coworker having a shriveled up pee-pee and discombobulated 'nads all the time he's at work? How inconsiderate!
Menstruation is NOT contagious, but I suspect that the "sensitive" co-worker was afraid that it was.
HE had no effing business going into her or any other person's locker.
This is a very major invasion of privacy, and the supervisor is way overstepping.
Both should be fired.
Story 1 - Why the hell was that male coworker snooping around in OP’s locker anyway?
Looking for something to be offended by?
He was a Karen.
Trying to suck on one of them used bars lol
An overly sensitive thief 😂
@@paulagoeringer9466 A something thief
Story one.... Male employees bothered by.... tampons, in a box!? Poor wittle baby. What an effing tool. 😡
@@petunia7623People who do act like tampons and pads are bad are like people thinking smelling essential oils will cure cancer lol
If he's so distraught about tampons at work, maybe his female coworkers should inform him of what his work life is going to look like if they DON'T bring tampons to work. He should shut up and just be grateful that he won the biological lottery on reproductive convenience.
@@meh2510I agree. I just wonder, if he has a girlfriend /fiancé /wife. How is he's reaction when they have their period? Is he hiding in the woods every week of the month? Because he would not be able to handle it
If it's used tampons, then it's understandable to be disgusted, though. 😅
This guy is a medical professional and can't start the sight of tampons in a locker, yeah I clean public restrooms every morning at work and I have to empty out the small trash bin they use for discarded feminine products. I deal with the sight and smell of used tampons and maxi pads every morning at a restaurant. What's his exuse?
Story 1: What kind of idiot gets squicky at seeing a box of unused tampons? He must faint every time he goes down the wrong aisle in a drug store.
Right? Bet the guy doesn't get offended about the condoms and "mega rhino stamina" pills at gas station checkout counters
He probably ACTUALLY does react that badly or something close. He also probably avoids those aisles like they are radioactive, likely even has a "deflector shield" for "that nasty aisle"
@@kyleoppenheim8711it’s hard to find some pills now 😣 lol
Story 1 - I work in health care, and I was talking over a procedure (neuro) which resulted in an HR complaint about my language. HR basically stated that if they couldn't take someone talking about things like that, they should find a career in a different industry.
Story 1:
The co-workers are just ignorant. My male housemate and I have a stash of tampons/pads for our female guests.
I even had some in my locker at work as I've learnt from my sisters growing up that it's not always on schedule!
Those co-workers need to grow up.
You are awesome!
I normally take the guy's side. But not here. Dude is being pathetic.
The tampon team mate shouldnt be looking through someone elses locker, I think I would have made an 'unfilled vampire teabags' box just for the snowflakes benefit 😂
And start eating really messy raspberry jelly sandwiches around him. 😂 Nom, nom, nom. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I wonder if he'd pass out?
😂😂😂😂
@@paulagoeringer9466 raspberry tea would be a fun addition too 😆
@@paulagoeringer9466Oh God this would be so funny lmao I should try this if I ever work with someone who can't handle that stuff
Oh my word! Wife's dad when she started having her period told her. Bury them in the bathroom garbage. I don't want to see your vampier snacks. Ofcourse she's modified. Well couple years later and enough pent up frustration about being teased about her period.... she made sure her dad was a ways down the aisle at the store. So really loud she hollers. Hey dad I'm out of unused vampier snacks! Can we go down the pad aisle! He was not thrilled but went with her. Why would you say that it's so embarrassing! One. You teas me all the time. Turn abouts fair play. Two. It's a normal bodily function that I have no control over and should not be considered embarrassing. She didn't get teased again.
Tampon Story: If I were OP, when the manager first told me to move or rebox the Tampons, I'd have told him to put it in writing, including WHY I'm being told to do this...
If he's stupid enough to actually send that Email, I'd immediately forward it to HR with a Formal Complaint against both Manager AND the Coworker that first complained about my locker...
Meanwhile, I'd be telling the Male Coworker "If you dislike what you see in my Locker, the the solution is simple...STOP LOOKING AT MY LOCKER!
I'm so offended by this unused cotton stick with string coming from it!
Cell phone story is yet another "not all heroes wear capes" moment.
story 5 - The sale of phones to a person with intellectual disability would void the contract under lack of capacity. Under Contract law
I found that one a little confusing. So they were saying this man has an adult son under his guardianship due to a disability and pays for him to live with caretakers. And those caretakers brought him to the mall and allowed him to buy several phones and plans, with this intellectually disabled son also having direct access to dad's money? This seems strange on several levels.
@@blender4464 ooh i didn't understand story 5, thanks a lot
It should always, but the guardians and advocates should be on to of that shit.
I work with people with disabilities, intellectual and developmental, and I remember a guy at my old job who crashed three cars and a suspended license, buys a used car. Told his dad with a call what had happened, and it is surprising how awful people can be. He didn't look disabled but you could tell he was not fully there and capable of making decisions on his own without help.
I put some of blame on the DSP on duty for not stepping into stop the transaction, as much as the coworkers shitty salesman ship.
But if you are a guardian or have someone in your family that needs help to know when they are being exploited, let them know and step up for them.
Story 2: I have worked in IT for decades, and this happens when someone that knows nothing wants to assert their little bit of authority over the ones actually doing the work. I had the same type of image as OP on a drive and a Karen manager tried to do the same to me. I caught wind and before the meeting I talked to the owner of the company and told him what the manager was planing to do. They were fired the day before the meeting after the owner confirmed what I told them. I didn't lose the image.
Story 1: Why is the boss more concerned about a box of tampons (which aren’t illegal nor being used when in the box) instead of that male co-worker snooping?
I wouldn't be shocked if he's one of those men who thick women are aliens and witches for having normal bodily functions or don't follow his standards of what a woman is.
Story 5, I used to work for a combo cable/cell phone company that acted this way with taking advantage of customers. In fact, you will be berated and asked to quit if you don't take advantage of their weaknesses, like a woman who lost her husband and most of her income recently. Why didn't I try to force her to put all her other relatives on her account when she was trying to save money by cancelling her husband's phone?
"It's unethical," was apparently the wrong answer.
I've got a nice malicious compliance story that the bathroom break one just reminded me, 25 years ago I was working in a newspaper, if someone knows the newspaper dynamics we have to leave to get news from the streets a lot.... and I mean A LOT.
A secretary during her lunch break left the building and while she was walking to the restaurant a couple of blocks aways she slipped on a curb and twisted her ankle, at the time we had a punch card clock the thing is that since she didn't punch her lunch break outing it had to be filed as a job accident hence the newspaper gave her paid leave including hospital fees and meds, manager was furious and he stated in a report that all outing for all personnel had to be marked in the clock, we argued since press personnel had many outings we shouldn't have to comply but he was very upset and adamantly insisted in it, so enter our malicious compliance.
For the next days we punched the card so many times many of them ended up breaking in two, HR was upset since they had to change it almost daily, fourth day into the compliance they voided the order for press personnel and although they tried something similar months later, they ended up giving up on the whole idea.
story 1: you look in medical field & you are disgusted by tampons? what!
Story 1: I laughed so hard, I nearly fell off my chair! Good for OP's HR to back her up by saying she did use a different box! That idiot needs to be hooked up to a Period Pain Simulator with the dial cranked up to the max. setting.
someone needs to invent that and also add an ‘overdrive’ setting that doubles or triples the pain
@@JohnH20111 There IS such a device. I just read an article where a company had a mobile unit going around and asking men if they thought period pain (aka endometriosis) was just an over reaction by women so they hooked it up to a woman who has that issue, set it at a level where she said that was how it felt for her, then attached the electrodes (?) to a man and set it at the level that she experienced and that man only lasted maybe a minute before he couldn't take the pain.
Story 2: Another example of "I'm the head of something I have no experience in." Like, Karen's so illiterate in IT that she ended up ruining everyone's work because she thought that people hid bad stuff (p**n, I bet) in those flash drives.
Glad she was eventually demoted, otherwise IT would've seriously tanked if she stayed
Having worked in government, I am surprised she was demoted. Where I worked she would have been given an award for her initiative in attempting to remove 'inappropriate material' from government computers.
OP and the others should have turned over BLANK flashdrives. But letting Idiot Karen dig her grave was classic! 😂
@@condorboss3339 Well she caused the loss of important data to the Main Office which relies heavily on it. If it was just her office, yeah, they wouldn't care, but because she caused inconvenience for "the big boys" she got demoted. And besides she has a record for hostile workplace anyway, which just makes it easier to pin all the blame on her.
I'm gonna go out on a very short limb here and make an assumption. Karen hid bad stuff on her own devices so she assumed everyone else did the exact same thing. Less incompetence, more projection.
Maybe if she spent all her worktime filling up her own flashdirives with p**n instead of subjecting the rest of the employees to her incompetence, the department would run a heck of a lot better and she might even get a bonus out of the productivity.
Story 1: why was that male co worker going through her locker, my guess he was either trying to steal from her possibly checking to see if she left any type of underwear in there because he is a total pervert or seeing if there was money to steal.
I reckon OP should file a lawsuit against the male co worker for invasion of privacy, attempted theft plus sexual harassment.
With the person in a group home they couldn’t legally enter into a contract without their guardians consent. So that was never a legal contract to begin with as it would be the same as a child.
Story 2 what she meant by "bad stuff" was evidence of her incompetence.
Story 1- that's no man that's a boy
Not even a boy.
@@joehung1552 He's a zygote.
Tell him to stay out of your locker. He wouldn’t be able to see the contents if his nose stayed out of other peoples private stuff
He's probably a thief looking for valuables.
Plus the co workers are breaching the privacy act, so OP has every right to take them to court as well.
Story 1:
OP should have written Draculas tea bags on the box.
Story 2: my guess as to why Karen wanted everything wiped was because either SHE had something that needed to be gone and that something would just get lost in the purge or she knew someone from another department get the boot because they had something bad on their computer and she figured it was everywhere.
I benefitted from a little preferential treatment at work. In our operating room, everyone worked 10 hours/4 days. I was a good employee, never late, hung over, or bitching about getting the lousy cases. I was dating a gal who eventually was my second wife, in a town 90 minutes away. I frequently got 4-day weekends. More problematic employees got fewer.
Story about new company making tardiness all the same - I worked a place like that once. Being 1 minute late was the same punishment as calling in. So a lot of times if people were stuck in unexpected traffic due to an accident or something, they would just call in and turn around and go home. They'd get paid PTO. It would still be an occurence, but they'd get the whole day off paid for the same punishment on their record as being 1 minute late. So stupid.
story 1:As a dude I honestly thought op’s response her her boss was hilarious and I probably would’ve laughed my @$$ off if I had seen it lol
i have 3 sisters, 2 ex-wives, and a daughter, as well as 3 nieces, so that stuff doesn’t really faze me
Disabled/phones story: the client does not sound legally able to execute a contract, so voiding it was the correct action. Good for OP.
Exactly, if the guy was mentaly disabled, he had a guardian without whoms consent any transaction over a certain threashhold is void. Same as with a minor, any expenses should have been contestable
Tampons vs locker story: Well OP, I see two alternatives. One, lock your locker or two, get a large box of condoms and put the label over the tampon label. What? The guy is offended by condoms too?
IT Karen story: I'm surprised more of the workers in OP's department simply didn't make a backup of their USB drives before turning them in, even if they didn't know they were going to be wiped.
Non-profit story: So I have to ask, was the PTO accrual and roll-over policy restored to what it was previously?
Phone story: OP, you made one goof. When you left that day you should have contacted Loss Prevention on your own to explain what happened.
COMSEC story: Yeah, as anyone who's ever been in the military knows, we unfortunately have our Karen's as well and sometimes they hold a senior rank.
Phone story. But if OP did that, then the boss & co-worker would've taken longer to get fired, as that incident tipped off loss prevention to investigate.
@@catherinep2034 Not necessarily. I suspect it would just have caused them to keep a closer eye on the store to start with given their previous history. That likely would have resulted in them being fired sooner.
@@merlinathrawes746 Either way, glad OP didn't get in trouble with them.
Story 5: So basically, the others exploited the system with excessive discounts and the like, and this negatively affected the store so much that Loss Prevention got involved.
Like, what's the point? What do you get out of this?
It’s commission sales. Stealing the cases like that closed more sale equaling higher commission. It’s stupid though because it’s easy to track.
This is the reason I'm glad I don't work for a phone company anymore. I was customer service and would have to try and fix issues that was caused in the store from underhanded sales.
Unpopular opinion: men who can’t handle seeing unused tampons or tampon boxes, calling them “disgusting”? If they swing that way, they shouldn’t have girlfriends or wives. Like, it’s such a strong sign of cowardice or immaturity, I can’t stand it. Like, I’d understand being a bit squeamish seeing blood or bloodied tampons, but unused tampons in a box? Feckin’ hell.
Why do NCOs have this power trip about telling them when you leave your desk. Myself and a few of my friends pulled this malicious compliance on our NCOs when we were in also. Just as in the story that got shut down real quick. Crazy.
I would think there would have been a manager involved if a person was going to buy over four phones in a purchase because of the fact they could be a potential scam going on.
First story: Why is the male coworker even going into her locker? Only the female coworkers were allowed to if they needed a hygiene product. That might be worth highlighting to corporate.
Trans men (who haven't had hysterectiomies) sometimes have periods, too.
@@wmdkitty If that were the case, he would be relieved, not complaining.
@@wmdkitty he was a cis dude getting offended about tampons, not a trans dude lioking for them
Late = getting written up story: I wonder how fast the new management would crap their pants if the entire workforce would come in 3 hours late, on the exact same day, lmao.
Story 1, she should have put it in a box that said " Vampire Tea Bags"
Story 3: the deleting of hours like that sounds illegal. If they want to delete them, they should pay them out. That's hours the employees worked for the company and they deserve compensation for them.
Story5: You can't do that.
Do what, prevent a coworker from ripping a mentally disabled customer?
Yes, you can't void it.
Bye then!
Just...wtf...I wouldn't have stuck around either
Story #1: OP's solution to the tampon box issue is friggin' genius! I laughed so hard! XD
Last story, the military seems to offer lots of opportunities for malicious compliance.
My older sister works in healthcare, and they got a new manager at one of her old jobs. The new manager was male and severely against people sitting down. Ignoring doctors note type of severe.
Well, one day, a female employee is sitting on a chair, and he is mad because she is breaking his policy. She told him she is cramping really bad and just needs a minute. Well, he reported her for sexual harrassment. He also wanted her to remove her nose ring because even though she was wearing a mask, he knew it existed.
Wait, he reported her?..
Not the other way around?..
That guy is bonkers!
Why wasn't he fired/moved for things like that?..
@sairus3239 He was either friends or related to a higher up. He had a ton of complaints for ignoring work restrictions and just being a total jerk, but nothing happened. My sister ended up quitting.
@@teddilupin sucks to have a boss like that... Those people can be fired only if they get a lawsuit or something...
I hope your sister now have better job with at least less crappy boss.
A quick message over to HR would have been enough to resolve the whole being gone to go to the bathroom situation. Like it only take 5 minutes for the whole thing and never have to be more than a day saga.
S1. They work in health care and don't have a dark sense of humour? That'll be a short term career for OPs Co worker. He sounds extremely precious
Supervisor needs to find a different line of work too.
About story five: In Germany, what the story would have been considered highly illegal and the sale voided, since the son was in a care home and it seems as if he was unable to make business as he had caretakers.
Story 1: Would he have had a similar coniption-fit if instead of tampons, OP had a roll of 2-ply toilet paper that she was as generous with sharing so that her coworkers didn't have to suffer the 1-ply mega rolls supplied by the work place? Make her stop! ...clutch my pearls 🙄
He probably would have stolen the toilet paper.
Thanks to this channel I can recognize Malicious Compliance stories and laugh my butt off.
I had a boss years ago who actually followed me into the bathroom and demanded I get back to the office immediately. Thankfully, she didn't last very long...
I had a female colleague follow me into the men's toilet (2006 before all the trans thing happened) and started harassing me while I voided bowels, she wasn't involved in management or supervisory roles at all and had no right to harass me when I was using the toilet
Story 2: If Karen had a drive too, she was hiding something on hers and needed a cover-up.
Phone Story: If I were OP, when Boss told me a Contract is a Contract, I'd have looked him in eye and snarled "No it isn't, a Contract is NOT Legal or Valid if it's signed by someone that is not Mentally Competent! which is true in this case, the person that signed that 10 phone Contract is living in an Assisted Living Facility because he isn't mentally able to care for himself and thus, by definition, is NOT LEGALLY COMPETENT TO SIGN A CONTRACT!!! Now either you let me finish dealing with this mess my way, or I call Corporate AND the Police and you and Coworker will be out of the job and possibly Arrested by the end of the week!"
*Story 4- Something like that happened to my hubby!!!* My hubby works in a roofing warehouse, and he’s the perfect employee! *(They can’t function without him!)* They open at 7am, but he gets there a *5:30am!* And if he’s not there, things get messy, and nothing gets done! And they close at 4. _But,_ if everything isn’t pulled, he’ll stay later to finish.
But, while we were on vacation *(we were even in a different state!),* someone purposely cut a cord on a crane truck! So, now *everyone’s* getting penalized for it! You can’t clock in before 7. And if everything’s done before 4, you have to find something to do, or clock out early.
Story 2 - I’m willing to guess the new head of IT saw some kind of shock and awe news piece on tv and decided to head off a non existent problem before it caused more bad things to happen without checking with her team to start with. As someone who works in IT, I’m willing to say your tools are everything. I personally have multiple usb drives I can just grab and go depending on the problem. Also, I am willing to guess the people in her department regularly check them for malware.
I'd put better money on it being a Facebook post or a clickbait story over a TV news piece, but otherwise yeah.
I'm with Fluff on this one. Dude, you work in healthcare! A box of tampons is the LEAST disturbing thing you're seeing, (probably).
Health care... And this guy is offended??!! Isn't there worse things in healthcare? 😂
OP IS A GENIUS!!!! I'm so glad they showed the box cuz that is awesome!!!
I'm trying to think of something that would offend a woman the way that this offended that man... And if the woman had brought it to the superior if she would have just been told to deal with it because it's ridiculous.
First story - OP got disciplined for having tampons in her locker, but the coworker didn't for going into someone else's locker? 🤔
Last story - I'm surprised that OP didn't respond with a "ma'am, yes ma'am!" like they would a drill sergeant.
Story 3: cutting vacation rollover has a negligible effect on budget, except to the extent that the allocated funds have to be rolled over - but there's no effect on the bottom line.
Story 1: OP should have immediately went to HR and filed a formal grievance for sexual discrimination against the boss...never ever allow anyone do this to you.
Story 2: OP did as any IT person worth their salt would do...always have a (private) backup! Karen probably saw some kind of news video on TV and freaked out.
Story 5: If the old guy's kid was classified as disabled then he could not legally sign a contract anyway. If so then the coworker committed 10 felonies by tricking him.
Last story: OP did absolutely the right thing as an airman following her sergeants order to the letter. But I'm surprised the ranking personnel waited so long to rescind such a silly order. After the first day I would have apologized and clarified immediately.
Stubbornness, most likely.
Story 1: That guy is a creep.
Story1: dude doesn't need to be working in healthcare if he can't handle a little blood
That last story, I can verify that nobody does malicious compliance like the military. And nobody in the military does malicious compliance like enlisted folks who are working in on-base desk jobs (I did both on base and field jobs, and oh boy, I have some stories).
Why would you call a Sgt mam though don't make sense
RN .... DON'T MESS WITH THE UNIT.... The Queens of documenting.
thank you! I appreciate you both so much
Teachers still have to notify someone if they need to go to the bathroom- that’s how I developed kidney issues. You can’t always get coverage and have to “hold” it
Tanking vacation time ... the modern version of this is no longer providing a fixed amount, but having it all "discretionary" - which means way less than you should get, and no bank to pay out if you need to leave the company - like, retire, whatever.
In my second military hitch, I was an Electronic Tech in the US Navy. First on my ship, then at the NAVCAMSLANT communication station in Norfolk, Va. I worked on UHF radios and crypto gear. We called the NAVCAMSLANT building "the vault". A very secure facility. But our one female supervisor Chief was okay. Not a Karen. Early 1980s so maybe Karens hadn't devolved yet? 😅
The last story is a bit insane but I will say there are some jobs where it makes a bit more sense to let others know when you're away from the desk. One of my more recent jobs was in background research and our teams were state-based, so it was a courtesy thing. "Hey, I'll be afk for a few minutes, working in this section of the queue so don't touch it please." That kind of thing.
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On the third story, karen you bit your own butt, if you don't mess with things that work good.
That Karen had obviously been promoted beyond her competence. 🤨
PTO Story: OP and the other should have called the State Department of Labor to ask them if that change, made that late in the year is Legal or not...
Not to just Pass right over THIS Scene from op describing the male cowarker KNOWING what EVERYTHING IN HER--OP's-- OWN WORK locker for placing personal items from home she made need for being at work,..... BUT Why DID NO ONE QUESTION THE MALE Co--WORKER on HOW WOULD **HE** KNOW EXACTLY what was in OP's LOCKER?? unless HE TOOK IT UPON HIMSELF--BEING A MAN--CHILD to Blatantly OPEN Op's PERSONAL WORKPLACE LOCKER and actually SNOOPING IN HER PERSONAL PROPERTY?!?! THAT HE HAD ABSOLUTELY NO RIGHTS NOR PERMISSIONS TO BE IN OP'S LOCKER IN THE FIRST PLACE!!!
Story 2 7:31 sounds like something out of Dilbert
Hehehe..... my state IT department was much like the Dilbert cartoon. Sometimes I even worked on the idea of "What would Dilbert do?" 😂
Story 2: When I worked for the government, we had to do an annual security lesson that mentioned flash drives as one of the vectors for getting malware into the system. Karen might have taken that lesson.
That guy who was offended by the Tampons needs to works from home, so he can be closer to mummy.
The second story is ringing my alarm bells as a former IT professional (and female). One, the dig about "being too emotional". That is a common mysogynistic quote about women in a male dominated field. Two, it should not take six months to create an image. Really. Maybe a week if you're super thorough. The only reason I can think of it taking six months is not working on it more than an hour a week and having multiple sets of hardware to have to fit it to.
Story 1: Seriously? I wonder if he's capable of shopping... Most shops has a whole aisle of tampon boxes...
*The expression is "banded together" and "banding together" (as in you form a band, aka a group), because "banned" means something entirely different.
Story 1: how can someone in a hospital care about seeing a box of tampons. The restroom at my lab is unisex and has a box for throwing them out right next to toilet yet it has never bothered me
That karen who wiped all drives must have suspected that one of them had something on their drives that might bite her in the ass. Like the kind of proof you bring to a trial to bar her from running a business
Ok maybe I'm just weird... But WTF is wrong with tampons?
For enough if they were used tampons then I could see a problem with them. But WTH?
I'm a guy and I've gone into shops to pick up tampons for female friends and ex partners. Heck I probably have some laying around here somewhere left behind by my ex. Only reason I haven't thrown them out is because they're handy if one of my cousins or friends have an emergency when at my place.
Like dude they're just wadds of cotton wool. Would you get grossed out over a box of plasters? A pair of clean socks? A makeup set?
I wonder if the co-worker who was offended by tampons had read "Carrie" when he was a kid, and it kicked his inner psycho into left field...
Oh bull.. that tampon box was fuckin funny!
Story 2: Corrupt admin types often suspect others of being as corrupt as they tend to be.
Her type also claims to assume everyone else is lying about being busy because that's what they do themselves.
Projection is one of the pillars of being a Karen.
Story 1: I would file sexual harassment charges.
story 2... I am thinking that she didn't like how IT had tools to make their work easy and thought the "magic" they used was the bad stuff... and being a good evengelical "christian" had to get rid of it.
I had a similar thought. Republican governor appointee.
I think the boss and co worker should be locked up for at least 20 years
Story 2 - It's called projection. Many people think that other people will do exactly what they would do. So I'd recommend looking closely at Karen's memory stick. It most likely has the "bad stuff" on it.
#1 If it's used tampons, then it's understandable to be disgusted, though. 😅
#2 Regardless what Karen did, it's a very bad practice for IT people to not keep backups.
#3 Didn't Karen read the amount of vacation time every employees have to shed within three months? If she read it, she should realized the consequences beforehand.
Story 3: I am wondering about where this story came from. See in the US at least (and most people don't know this) PTO is actually factored in as part of your salary, you are expected to take it as part of your annual compensation. The fact that she just tossed out 120 PTO hours is the same as denying actual pay to employees for 120 hours worth of work... That is a federal crime. Now as scummy as it is cutting the ceiling is one thing but she legally could not just poof anything over 80 into non existence... That is the same as saying "you been getting 14 an hour, but I think it is too much... so I am cutting pay to fit what I think is better not what you were offered upon hire." There is a reason people like that are grandfathered in... a new manager or CEO cannot downgrade you from what you were making before they came on, now anyone new would have to start under those new rules, but if it was that way before X was hired on, X can't just make it go away cause they don't like it. I am pretty sure that is a felony.
Story 3: 200 hours? HA we can roll 480 hours
Phone story: This is more ProRevenge rather than MaliciousCompliance.
When I retire I think I'm going to see if I can't get a crap job or two just so I can say "naw, that's stupid. I'm not doing that - I quit" ;)
Story one - prolly shouldn’t work in the medical field if unused supplies make him squeamish. Imagine looking at a cotton ball and getting grossed out by the fact you’ll use it to apply antiseptic to a cut or scrape at some unknown point in the future.
In Germany, that disabled son could have made the buy of all the phones, but his legal guardian has 14 days to void all contracts and there's nothing the store could do. It's the same with teenagers.
If he has the mind of a child of under 6-7ish, the son would be considered as unable to make a contract, but that's hard to get for anyone not a child...
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Last story: ah the military. The one place where you think you would be treated as professional adults but instead, its like you're in a daycare with a staff NCO who doesn't want to go home because their spouse is being a pain and they are taking it out on you.
Not surprising to see the (justified) anger about story 1. Dude needs to grow the -- up, and the supervisor needs to be demoted.
'A contract is a contract.' A contract requires capacity. If you are in a nursing home because you can't look after yourself for reasons other than mobility i.e. because you lack the ability to make safe rational decisions and can't understand the consequences, you do not have the capacity to contract. All such contracts are voidable.
Story 3
They had to use up 120h?
Thats 13-15 days. Aka about 3 weeks
25 (5weeks) if they had to use up all 200h.
And they were told at the end of october?
Basically meant that half of tge rest of the year's workdays were forced vacation.
And she did that to increase profit ...
Yeah... no.
Nothing you do can make up for half productivity.