I get the feeling Wolverine saw some shit on the other side and just decided to tell Jen to focus on life and being herself. He's definitively hiding shit, but thinks that shit simply isn't worth thinking about. Which is very Logan.
if it's the version where proto mutants were holding some gladiator type shit where they making dead mutants fight the apocalypse in the last round and whoever wins gets to see the world of living again then it makes sense.
I’m actually glad Jen didn’t ask Bruce about this. He’s a little bit too jaded on the subject over wolverines been around long enough to give you a straight and from his perspective real answer.
Seriously, why did the writers do this? She talked normally from the very beginning. There was no need to give her the sudden 'Hulk Speech'. Just distracting.
@@JMDarkly1 She got a massive gamma boost that's why she is bigger and stronger with the downside of becoming dumber, like have you read any comics in like the past 5 or so years?
You know I'm probably the only person who likes it when She Hulk looks buffer than normal, starting all the way back when she first became a Gray She-Hulk. I even liked it when she became that Hulk-She-Hulk, except the personality change of course.
i have a feeling that if i was to be killed and brought back to life, the fear of death would absolutely vanish from my mind, kinda like how in dragonball death doesnt have any consequences anymore, because the 5 strongest can erase galaxies and rival the gods, (Buu, Piccolo, Gohan, Vegeta, Goku) any if you're ever killed you can count on atleast one of them to bring you back with one of the 4 sets of dragonballs. except if i died i would already know whats on the other side, so there goes the fear of the unknown, and because i couldnt do anything about not dying again, i wouldnt have a reason to worry anymore, in fact, life would be that much greater because now i'd have a better reason to live it to the fullest.
Life itself is a relative gift coming back is another one overthinking like wolverine said is waste of time(i almost died when a got hit with a car so is kinda relatable)
I’ve thought the same thing. It’s been confirmed multiple times that in Marvel (and in DBZ) that the afterlife…. is a thing. So yeah the fear of the unknown is gone like you said. While I really love your live life to the fullest take on it, a kinda sad to think about thing that I’m reminded of is there is a movie on Netflix or something where some scientist was able to “scientifically prove” the existence of an afterlife, and afterwards the number of suicides in the world skyrocketed. Implying that fear of the unknown was the only thing stopping many people. I guess the point is confirmation of an afterlife would definitely change how people live, and it isn’t really shown much in Marvel honestly
@@punishercastle5487 Honestly, what i think about the suicide thing is that at that point living your life would become a small community thing, like playing a video game or kindergarten, an experience that can only be experienced once, then my stance would remain the same, Live life to the fullest, because you only get one chance, a guaranteed afterlife is something you know you'll get, and you SHOULD live like your afterlife depends on it. (if that movie or show actually says that Heaven and Hell are real you definetly should live life as a good person no matter what because you most likely dont want an eternity of torture.)
she hulk's appearnace changes so much through comics. this is the first time ive ever seen her drawn like that. usually she's a really fit green woman who's 8 ft tall.
They had an actress exactly like that. They used her to model for the cgi figure. Imagine how much money they could have saved if they'd just used green body paint instead of the weird looking cgi puppet. Yes it still bothers me.
When I was 1 and a half I was pronounced dead twice in the same day, cardiac arrest due to scalding by boiled water, never told anyone what I saw, and now I can't rememeber it. I guess I've always wondered if I'm the same person who went under what came back, then again I was so early in my development I don't see how it would make a difference.
Traumatic events have an impact on the mind and spirit. Going through something like that is going to affect you in ways that can range from the subtle to the substantial, but the trajectory of your life is forever altered by such tragedies. Whether those changes are for good or ill is ultimately a question that only you can answer, but change is an essential element of growth.
When I was 9mo, I had Staphylococcal Scalded Skin Syndrome. This was between 91' and 92', so things were different back then. For those that don't know, SSSS is a flesh eating/peeling/dissolving condition, I don't really know how to describe it since I have heard it called multiple terms. Anyway, my skin was coming off of me severely. My mother informed me, she would put a soaking wet wash cloth to my body, and the water running down my back would take my skin off with it. Well, the day the doctors told my family I was passed the point of no return, and that I wouldn't make the night.. my family came in the next day to me, already 2/3s on my way to a full recovery. Only markings I have from it is discoloration in the shape of a 6 or 9 depending what angle you look from.
You can't store a memory in your computer when it's switched off. Even if your conscious experience does "something" or goes "somewhere", you won't remember it when you come back, because memory is a product of your brain. You probably just appeared again instantly to whenever your brain booted back up -- with your eyes closed on a hospital bed.
@@rattlestormrepublic4874 No, a dream is your brain still being active. The things people see when they are dying, are usually a result of oxygen deprivation. Similar to hallucinogenic drugs. If you see anything, this is what it is. It's hard for the brain to store thar information properly. It's not used to it, and memories are distorted each time we recall them. When you are actually dead-dead, there's nothing to process. The brain isn't functioning. It's more like being under anesthetic. Your brain is completely off. There's also a small period during sleep where your brain essentially simulates death for 20-minutes. You don't experience it -- you just appear where your brain has more activity again. There's ideas floating around that when you die, it's just drawn out forever. You just experience perpetual hallucination, because time isn't processed the same way. This is because you technically can't experience "unconsciousness" because you're not there to do so. You can only exist consciously in some form. So if you are never going to become conscious again, you just experience your last moments forever -- like falling into a black hole. Another idea is that you just appear wherever you are conscious again -- however that could happen. Maybe they simulate every type of brain in a computer 300 years into the future, so you just appear there.
Logan basically said: "Save yourself the existential crisis and don't think about it too much, it's just healing, you're still you and that's all that matters"
What I don't get is why authors keeps treating the coming back part like it's the traumatic event rather than the dying part that's traumatic... It just comes across as really weird and completely void of any understanding. I've met people who've died and come back. It's not being dead, nor coming back that's traumatizing. Usually it's the dying part that's traumatic.
Interesting but why is she talking to Logan about this? Yes he revived too but this theme was strongly dealt with for all gamma mutates in the Immortal Hulk with the whole Green Door concept. Seems more suitable for a Hulk storyline. She should be talking to Bruce, Betty or any other gamma mutate that went through the door and resurrected.
depends on which writer was assigned to which department. He wanted to explore this topic but was made to work in Avengers on a time when the other artists was taking taking hulk in a different place or some shit. It's not in editorial's hands either cause they didn't know a writer from one department would get a spark of idea matching in other department.
@wolffang489 I mean, She-Hulk WAS different from Jen, it might be something thats been lost in recent years, but as far as I'm aware, Jen & She-Hulk HATED eachother, or at least the concept of transforming into eachother. Jennifer was more closed off, reserved and quiet, while She-Hulk was loud, sexual and outgoing. They preferred to stay as "themselves" but recognized when the other was needed. They were basically what Hulk & Bruce could've been if the 2 sides would just get along and work together. But it seems like Marvel just... forgot? And used Jennifer less and less, leading to this run, where She-Hulk was buffed and made dumb so they could have an excuse to separate them again.
Have you gotten copy right strikes on any of these vids? I wanna do DC and Marvel comic dubs but seems illegal to post their stuff. And they'll never give permission for it lol
I don’t like that she hulk is like a brute now. She used to be much smarter than hulk in her green form. Could actually talk normally. She’s not as unique now. Idk why marvel felt that was the way to go…
Oh well look at that, characters acting like adults. Its almost like this is what fans want instead of constant bad fourth wall breaking puns (isn't that right Kevin Feige/Tatiana Maslany?!) 🤡
All this shows that the superheros who come back from death are all traumatized as hell and copy by acting in denial, ignoring any implications, or focusing on helping people to not dwell on it. All of which are terrible coping mechanisms, but they're all too damaged to do better.
Yeah but you also learn with a lot of life overcomplicating it makes it worse. If I came back from the dead I would just be happy to be alive. I don't really need to know all the ins and outs. I would just be happy and focus on what I can still do while I'm still here.
I hate this vereion of She-Hulk so much, and I love both her original and the original Hulk. They took an empowered woman that was her own character and reduced her to "female Hulk" complete with the crippled speech, when She-Hulk was known for her quips and witty moments.... Character assassination.
I get the feeling Wolverine saw some shit on the other side and just decided to tell Jen to focus on life and being herself. He's definitively hiding shit, but thinks that shit simply isn't worth thinking about. Which is very Logan.
legit he lived many lives
if it's the version where proto mutants were holding some gladiator type shit where they making dead mutants fight the apocalypse in the last round and whoever wins gets to see the world of living again then it makes sense.
Logan has, after all, seen, said, and done shit he isn't proud of during his long life.
@JoseFigueroa-iz2on Forgot which famous said ot but all soldiers commit warcrimes, only the Victor's get to whitewash them
All his dead friend’s and family
Forgot about this story. Leave it to Logan to properly compartmentalize the tragedy of death better than anyone else.
Do it a few dozen times and anything gets banal after a bit. But yeah probly the best advice he could give considering that it could be MUCH worse.
I’m actually glad Jen didn’t ask Bruce about this. He’s a little bit too jaded on the subject over wolverines been around long enough to give you a straight and from his perspective real answer.
Pretty nice conversation for Logan and she hulk.
She-Hulk needing to change back to talk in complete sentences makes her marginally more interesting to me.
Seriously, why did the writers do this? She talked normally from the very beginning. There was no need to give her the sudden 'Hulk Speech'. Just distracting.
@@JMDarkly1 She got a massive gamma boost that's why she is bigger and stronger with the downside of becoming dumber, like have you read any comics in like the past 5 or so years?
@brutaljk5997, it goes back and forth CONSTANTLY. It'll change back in a few months dw
You know I'm probably the only person who likes it when She Hulk looks buffer than normal, starting all the way back when she first became a Gray She-Hulk. I even liked it when she became that Hulk-She-Hulk, except the personality change of course.
I assure you, you are not brother. This is the best she's ever looked.
@@angrybrony what the hell does that mean
@@MarvNARK that this was the best she ever looked?...
@@angrybrony well obviously no. But it's right up there in the top 3
SHE HULK LOOKIN LIKE OOOWEEEMAMABAZINGA
is that gen-z speak for “she looks like a man now” ?
𝓯𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓴𝔂
You are not gonna last 5 seconds in bed with her LITERALLY
I gotta wonder if Logan's seen all the people he's lost and killed waiting for him on the other side.
i have a feeling that if i was to be killed and brought back to life, the fear of death would absolutely vanish from my mind, kinda like how in dragonball death doesnt have any consequences anymore, because the 5 strongest can erase galaxies and rival the gods, (Buu, Piccolo, Gohan, Vegeta, Goku) any if you're ever killed you can count on atleast one of them to bring you back with one of the 4 sets of dragonballs.
except if i died i would already know whats on the other side, so there goes the fear of the unknown, and because i couldnt do anything about not dying again, i wouldnt have a reason to worry anymore, in fact, life would be that much greater because now i'd have a better reason to live it to the fullest.
Life itself is a relative gift coming back is another one overthinking like wolverine said is waste of time(i almost died when a got hit with a car so is kinda relatable)
Dying in dragon ball was an inconvenience at it's worse and a training opportunity at its best. stakes make the story.
I’ve thought the same thing. It’s been confirmed multiple times that in Marvel (and in DBZ) that the afterlife…. is a thing. So yeah the fear of the unknown is gone like you said. While I really love your live life to the fullest take on it, a kinda sad to think about thing that I’m reminded of is there is a movie on Netflix or something where some scientist was able to “scientifically prove” the existence of an afterlife, and afterwards the number of suicides in the world skyrocketed. Implying that fear of the unknown was the only thing stopping many people. I guess the point is confirmation of an afterlife would definitely change how people live, and it isn’t really shown much in Marvel honestly
there are worse things in life than death, and there so many ways to die you be in shock.
@@punishercastle5487 Honestly, what i think about the suicide thing is that at that point living your life would become a small community thing, like playing a video game or kindergarten, an experience that can only be experienced once, then my stance would remain the same, Live life to the fullest, because you only get one chance, a guaranteed afterlife is something you know you'll get, and you SHOULD live like your afterlife depends on it. (if that movie or show actually says that Heaven and Hell are real you definetly should live life as a good person no matter what because you most likely dont want an eternity of torture.)
That's what She-Hulk should have looked like in the TV show. She had the proportions of a normal woman who worked out, just scaled up to 8 feet tall.
she hulk's appearnace changes so much through comics. this is the first time ive ever seen her drawn like that. usually she's a really fit green woman who's 8 ft tall.
Dude, comic characters change with every artist.
@@Elipson52008I think what Mark means is that She-Hulk in the show looks so bland and basic while in the comics she looks more dynamic and bombastic.
They had an actress exactly like that. They used her to model for the cgi figure. Imagine how much money they could have saved if they'd just used green body paint instead of the weird looking cgi puppet. Yes it still bothers me.
OG Shulkie was never that jacked.
When I was 1 and a half I was pronounced dead twice in the same day, cardiac arrest due to scalding by boiled water, never told anyone what I saw, and now I can't rememeber it. I guess I've always wondered if I'm the same person who went under what came back, then again I was so early in my development I don't see how it would make a difference.
Traumatic events have an impact on the mind and spirit. Going through something like that is going to affect you in ways that can range from the subtle to the substantial, but the trajectory of your life is forever altered by such tragedies.
Whether those changes are for good or ill is ultimately a question that only you can answer, but change is an essential element of growth.
When I was 9mo, I had Staphylococcal Scalded Skin Syndrome. This was between 91' and 92', so things were different back then.
For those that don't know, SSSS is a flesh eating/peeling/dissolving condition, I don't really know how to describe it since I have heard it called multiple terms.
Anyway, my skin was coming off of me severely. My mother informed me, she would put a soaking wet wash cloth to my body, and the water running down my back would take my skin off with it.
Well, the day the doctors told my family I was passed the point of no return, and that I wouldn't make the night.. my family came in the next day to me, already 2/3s on my way to a full recovery.
Only markings I have from it is discoloration in the shape of a 6 or 9 depending what angle you look from.
You can't store a memory in your computer when it's switched off.
Even if your conscious experience does "something" or goes "somewhere", you won't remember it when you come back, because memory is a product of your brain.
You probably just appeared again instantly to whenever your brain booted back up -- with your eyes closed on a hospital bed.
@@DockClock-rp2ro So like how you wake up from a dream that you can't remember?
@@rattlestormrepublic4874 No, a dream is your brain still being active.
The things people see when they are dying, are usually a result of oxygen deprivation.
Similar to hallucinogenic drugs.
If you see anything, this is what it is.
It's hard for the brain to store thar information properly.
It's not used to it, and memories are distorted each time we recall them.
When you are actually dead-dead, there's nothing to process.
The brain isn't functioning.
It's more like being under anesthetic.
Your brain is completely off.
There's also a small period during sleep where your brain essentially simulates death for 20-minutes.
You don't experience it -- you just appear where your brain has more activity again.
There's ideas floating around that when you die, it's just drawn out forever.
You just experience perpetual hallucination, because time isn't processed the same way.
This is because you technically can't experience "unconsciousness" because you're not there to do so.
You can only exist consciously in some form.
So if you are never going to become conscious again, you just experience your last moments forever -- like falling into a black hole.
Another idea is that you just appear wherever you are conscious again -- however that could happen.
Maybe they simulate every type of brain in a computer 300 years into the future, so you just appear there.
And then the X-Men started coming back as clones and claimed that they "conquered death."
I like this she hulk
Logan basically said: "Save yourself the existential crisis and don't think about it too much, it's just healing, you're still you and that's all that matters"
So she just grows clothes when she turns back 🤣 I should start reading comics again. I forgot how wild they are
What I don't get is why authors keeps treating the coming back part like it's the traumatic event rather than the dying part that's traumatic... It just comes across as really weird and completely void of any understanding. I've met people who've died and come back. It's not being dead, nor coming back that's traumatizing. Usually it's the dying part that's traumatic.
Interesting but why is she talking to Logan about this? Yes he revived too but this theme was strongly dealt with for all gamma mutates in the Immortal Hulk with the whole Green Door concept. Seems more suitable for a Hulk storyline. She should be talking to Bruce, Betty or any other gamma mutate that went through the door and resurrected.
depends on which writer was assigned to which department. He wanted to explore this topic but was made to work in Avengers on a time when the other artists was taking taking hulk in a different place or some shit. It's not in editorial's hands either cause they didn't know a writer from one department would get a spark of idea matching in other department.
Might be because Logan, in his own way, has said, done, and seen things he himself wasn't proud of.
During the immortal hulk run which is set before this I believe she hulk died and the leader told her not to tell anyone
shi me being a bodybuilder i see this she hulk with extra gamma as a absolute win
0:55 so what’s the point of the claw slits on his gloves
I think it's a drawing mistake
Why she starts to refer to herself as "Hulk"?
Extra gamma notice she’s bigger than usual
She had some extra gamma, which made her act more like a typical Hulk
@@sebastianfontanez1081 Better that way Imo. Hulks are best when they're different from their human form.
@wolffang489 I mean, She-Hulk WAS different from Jen, it might be something thats been lost in recent years, but as far as I'm aware, Jen & She-Hulk HATED eachother, or at least the concept of transforming into eachother. Jennifer was more closed off, reserved and quiet, while She-Hulk was loud, sexual and outgoing. They preferred to stay as "themselves" but recognized when the other was needed. They were basically what Hulk & Bruce could've been if the 2 sides would just get along and work together. But it seems like Marvel just... forgot? And used Jennifer less and less, leading to this run, where She-Hulk was buffed and made dumb so they could have an excuse to separate them again.
Look man its just plot armor okay. Everythings gonna be fine next issue got it?
But I
Got IT?
Did She-Hulk lose her intelligence?
Whatever you do Jennifer, don't go ask Deadpool about this. You think you have questions now...
Jen: Wade, what was it like to die?
Wade: …..
Thanos: Hehehe… you want to tell her, or shall I?
Wade: Fuck the both of you.
Being dead isn't that bad. I drowned and was dead for a little while. You just wake back up again. Like shutting down and starting a computer.
It's me or her arms look short on the thumbnail?
Since when does She-Hulk talk like that? Wasn't she like the most intelligent of the Hulks ?
She got extra Gamma in this specific run of comics, it has the effect of making her more like Bruce’s Hulk
@@redreaper2088 ... That's seems like an excuse to make her sound stupid, tbh.
@@justwannabehappy6735 It is, more Gamma Power equals less Brain Power. Can't have her becoming a Female Maestro.
Why is she talking like that? The point of She hulk is she is the hulk but in control and doesn't have the split personality.
whats the background song?
Wait... where did her body suit come from after powering down?
Yeah, definitely snusnu material
Have you gotten copy right strikes on any of these vids? I wanna do DC and Marvel comic dubs but seems illegal to post their stuff. And they'll never give permission for it lol
Title and issue?
Immortal She-Hulk
I don’t like that she hulk is like a brute now. She used to be much smarter than hulk in her green form. Could actually talk normally.
She’s not as unique now. Idk why marvel felt that was the way to go…
She doesn't even look like this anymore
Liking this design for logan. Both the art and the costume. Still miss Jens original costume and personality
Oh well look at that, characters acting like adults. Its almost like this is what fans want instead of constant bad fourth wall breaking puns (isn't that right Kevin Feige/Tatiana Maslany?!) 🤡
All this shows that the superheros who come back from death are all traumatized as hell and copy by acting in denial, ignoring any implications, or focusing on helping people to not dwell on it. All of which are terrible coping mechanisms, but they're all too damaged to do better.
Yeah but you also learn with a lot of life overcomplicating it makes it worse. If I came back from the dead I would just be happy to be alive. I don't really need to know all the ins and outs. I would just be happy and focus on what I can still do while I'm still here.
Beers gross moonshine is where it's at
Now, I don’t like She Hulk. Thanks Disney+
I will make you like her 😅
Is so stupid how they changed sge hulk to just to be other hulk dumb character ...
Can I just say I’m not a fan of the broad shoulders she hulk she used be sexy asf 😭
Also isn't She Hulk capable of talking in regular ass sentences?
She had extra gamma energy in this comic run for a bit, thats why shes bigger and talks like hulk. It goes away later
I hate this vereion of She-Hulk so much, and I love both her original and the original Hulk. They took an empowered woman that was her own character and reduced her to "female Hulk" complete with the crippled speech, when She-Hulk was known for her quips and witty moments....
Character assassination.
Yes and no.
cringe, cringe, cringe, cringe, CRINGE, CRINGE, CRINGE
Holy shit comics are terrible now.
horrible writer, you can tell by how he opens the beer with his claws.
Bro what??
@@Design909. Try reading/watching stuff outside of Marvel, you'll see that they don't really know how to write comics.