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Hulk is absolutely on par with Wolverine and Deadpool, Nu-Fan. We have seen him heal from being dissected. We have seen him burned so bad he lost 3/4 of his body mass, and he was back to fully fit in seconds.
One of my favorite parts of this arc was when, in NYC, mid-rampage Hulk comes face to face with the Ghost Rider. You know, the living embodiment of vengeance. Ghost squared up, decided Hulk's desire for vengeance was legit, and rode off.
@@willdavis3802idk about that one chief. The reason his destruction in cities is a problem is because he's indirectly getting people killed in buildings by just destroying shit. Like an earthquake
@@NomadtheHunter Yup they should've did a film with the original female Captain Marvel Monica Rambeau. Endgame was ok but they should've killed Curt instead of Natasha.
Seriously like even after endgame and all that like so what if Tony stark died male another storyline no one really dies in the comics I don't think fans would care if they did secret wars or something instead of forgetting all about them
The irony is, after beating evetyone senseless and getting his answer, but finding out how much xavier has suffered he leaves in peace as was always his plan.
@@ezekielmanu3662 Your comments are so demonstrably false, it makes my teeth hurt. Marvel writers (especially X-Men writers) don't think beyond their own writing run, and they certainly don't think in terms of "years and decades". There is no long-term thought put into their characters powers whatsoever. If there was, they wouldn't take the lazy way out by continuously amping up the powers of their characters (this is especially true of the mutant books). Instead, writers would come up with new, creative ways for superheroes to use their existing powers, not just keep increasing powers exponentially. But no, they just take the lazy route and make their characters more OP because they lack the talent to come up with new ways to use existing powers creatively. Given enough time, I wouldn't be surprised if every Marvel mutant eventually ends up with Omega level powers. Just look at Iceman's powers now. Fucking ridiculous. Like batshit bonkers fucking ridiculous. Welcome to Marvel!
@@ezekielmanu3662 atleast marvel is more consistant than DC. in the same universe in the same episode or movie, one can see someone like superman struggling to fight mortals , and then go do godly acts like pulling the planet out of orbit. saw some video about superman lifting a supposed 200 quintillion tons. thats like the moon.
Some people forget that hulk gets stronger the angrier he is made. Some variants of him even change height and width with how ticked off he becomes. So seeing one of his hands wrapped around all of professor X's neck, that's not hard to believe. Neither is his ability to mop the floor with several of the X-Men. I would honestly like to see more of world war hulk, because he's focused and doesn't seem like the half speaking idiot that people like to write him to be. WWH speaks in full sentences, and is calculating. None of this " hulk smash" crap. I like the more intelligent hulk variants.
0:02 I mean....is he really NON-cosmic being after The Immortal Hulk? The One Above All said that Hulk is....his avatar of destruction or something like that.
@@the_infinexos Nah, at the end they went to him and he said "I AM THE ONE BELOW ALL" then they were like "cut the act" and then The One Above All revealed himself and explained everything.
@@the_infinexos The One Below All is the "Hulk" of the One Above All. From my understanding the One Above All created that aspect of himself to let there be balance in the multiverse. And The Hulk is, as the original poster said, an avatar of destruction for the One Below All. It's a bit much, but now we finally have an explanation as to why Hulk has no upper limit to his strength.
@@mr.vargas5648 One time he tried to off himself in one of the older comics before WW Hulk, his body literally stopped himself from going through with it and he heard The Hulk's voice in his head saying "No". I can't remember the exact issue, but it stuck with me because of how _hurt_ Bruce looked afterwards.
@@mr.vargas5648there is a comment already explaining the reason he cant off himself in the comics. In the films bruce says he literally had the barrel of a gun in his mouth and fired it point blank and hulk spit out the fuckin bullet. If any harm is coming bruces way hulk just comes out. He cannot die as bruce maybe by age but other than that i don’t see it happening.
the fact World War Hulk never got to be part of the mcu is part of the reason why i fell out of love with the movies 1 Hulk movie and several supporting roles/cameos in other stories, does not do justice for the Hulk
100% with HULK HERE, and I'm actually starting to think Xavier is the worst thing for x-men, too. I mean, all he ever taught them is how to Continuously TAKE PUNCHES without fighting back. Look where that got them!
I think you'll like Johnathan Hickmans run with the X-Man then. Grab some House of X / Power of X comics and enjoy some really cool new takes on Xavier and his mutants
It all depends on the writer and his imagination, personal preferences. There are comics in which Hulk gets owned by Jauggernaut. Nothing is canon in the comic world. One day you are the most powerful entity and in the next day, you may be reduced to being someone else's punch bag.
Which is also based on his level of rage. In the 80's, Banner, when he was in control of the Hulk body, had a problem with getting angry enough and his healing was slower while Wolverine had this theory as he fought the grey Hulk that his anger increased his healing.
Disney could never destroy Marvel or Star Wars. We will simply wait until Disney has destroyed itself and it's own reputation to the extent that those franchises will be sold off to someone worthy of them. Disney is just trying to play woke with the people who love both Star Wars and Marvel. They will fail and their garbage content will go into the dust pile where it belongs. In time we will have our stories back and done the way they should be.
My biggest gripe with Endgame was that they murdered the real Hulk off-screen because "Credible Hulk is funny, hurr durr." Hulk is as terrifying as a force-5 hurricane. Any time he's not, it's either VERY temporary or the writers are fucking up. Even in the comics, Professor Hulk always had a nasty edge to him. Victims who gain power often become bullies and abusers themselves, and there was always this feeling that he was close to just smashing anything that even thought about bothering him. Then he'd do it, and we'd see we were right to worry. Now he's this giant grinning teddy bear handing out enchiladas and it just makes me sad.
@@Maladjestersame. Hulk is my favorite comic character, seeing it so castrated and diluted hurts my soul. I love Hulk because he's the desire we all have to be powerful enough not to hurt anyone but to make them leave us alone, seeing him forced into the MCU mould...he is a slave to the suits and the PC commitees now, if MCU Hulk had meta-awareness like Deadpool he would be so frustrated and angry...
I always thought this was one of the dumber entries in the World War Hulk crossover. I just don't believe the Hulk would have bothered with Xavier as he was not a part of the decision to exile him.
@@yoshijb9428 Xavier was part of the Illuminati, but he wasn't on Earth (he was on the Shi'ar home planet at the time) when they decided to exile Hulk and voted on it. Hulk knew this (he specifically said so), but wanted to know how Xavier would have voted if he had been there. Xavier had no clue about the plan until he came back to earth, he had no part what so ever in it.
This graphic novel is the main reason why i don´t like the movies Infinity war and Endgame. It is ridicolous how easy Thanos beat up Hulk and what crybaby Hulk was afterwards. They messed it up greatly
@@avanar5449 and yet the only movies anyone talks about or like are endgame and before everything after has been worst and keeps getting worst. Evil cannot create it can only destroy.
@@xomox5316 very true. but what does it has to do with male or female super hero? as male i do enjoy watching ms.marvel, wonderwoman and others. there is nothing per se bad about female heroes. what is true is that the movies after endgame are getting generic. not innovative enough anymore and in some ways even too absurd. they completely lost me on them.
I hate how authors just make their favorite character omni potent in whatever comic they're writing, it's just stupid set a relatively reasonable and consistent power scale
@@IELBOWUNICORNS she could orbit him from 5 miles away. There would be no need for a fight, it would end up with a very angry Hulk orbiting earth with absolutely zero mass to push himself back down
@@KappaKiller108actually that’s totally false , hulk has been in dead space multiple times and still found his way back , and if we are talking about the current recent few versions of them , then Jean definitely isn’t winning ,especially against starship/titan hulk , she would get stomped
I think Xavier being the neutral pacifist than he normally is on most stories would've sided with namor since he understands what it's like to be discriminated against, but i don't think hulk cares what his response is, he just hurt and is looking for people to direct all that hatred to
You have very strong telekinetics on the X-man roster. You have teleporters. Hulk wins purely because the writers wanted him to. He can't fly. Launching him into space effectively solves the problem of the Hulk (and pretty much any other non-interstellar flight capable entities).
Yeah unfortunately that actually will not work on Hulk due to his physiology he will actually adapt to be able to breathe in space, so all launching him into space is going to do is piss him off even more
@xzcrimzonomegazx9143 in that same storyline hulk is standing right outside a spaceships *in space* punching asteroids while waiting to get to earth to pull people there inside-out
@@xzcrimzonomegazx9143 With no atmosphere, Hulk can't create thrust in space. Teleport him a million km from anything and he'll just starve to death. Maybe (thanks to his adaptation and regen) it'll take years, maybe a few decades... but outer space has eternity.
@@xzcrimzonomegazx9143 Either that or some incarnations of Hulk are written with the same level of consideration for storytelling that a child would do. As Stan Lee said, the strongest person/who will win is whoever the writer wants it to be at that moment
Hulk is one of my favorite characters, second to Spider-Man, and I love it when he is "The Man" just the strongest guy there that can overpower everyone, especially when he is portrayed as a child, or abused spirit that can overcome anyone and anything with his anger. I believe that Hulk will get stronger than the others later down the years, because I do believe that people like Thor, especially with his new powers of the Thor Force and other things, and Hercules, and Zues, and Odin, and Galactus, and the Phenox, and others like Nightmare and Dormammu, and Maphesto and the new overpowered Future Luke Cage, Silver Surfer and demons and devils and others, are stronger than Hulk, but at least for now. I believe that Hulk will surpass them all, especially with Hulk going to go up against Eldest and The Mother of Horrors.
4:30. Actually hulks healing factor was better than Deadpool’s and wolverine’s. But then he got that taken away how we he still had a little bit of healing factor left. Even then the gold kids abilities wore off.
Hulk shows up, and practically none of the “omega level” mutants are even there to fight him. It’s not even clear why the “omega level” stuff gets talked about, as it’s rarely ever solved an omega-level problem. Mutants can terraform entire planets in a matter of hours, but apparently all an enemy needs to be is really strong and suddenly it all means nothing. Ummm…ok.😒
Hulk's strength is a complimenting factor of his healing. Turn off his healing and his body would tear itself apart. This is a flaw in every superstrong character.
It really comes down to which X-Men team composition you're talking about (and to a lesser extent what version of Hulk). There's more than a few X-men who would be competitive against Hulk 1v1. For instance: Jean Grey, Iceman, Rogue, Magik, etc.
Mick? Dont you mean Miek? The insectoid friend of Korg which hulk met in the movie on the other planet? Or which Mick did you mean? I am really curious why a war boung friend of hulk would do that to him.
Small correction, hulks healing ability at its max makes wolverine and deadpool look like normal humans, dude was stripped to his skeleton and completely healed in seconds
Sure Hulk was OP in this story, but if his power level is equal to his anger…they tricked him, sent him off to space where he ends up a slave gladiator. He finally fights his way to freedom, and finds peace, acceptance, and a family. All those things he has *never* had in life…and that’s all ripped away too. No wonder he comes back stomping cracks into the earth…
Your right in this part 4:27, the Hulk’s healing factor isn’t in the same level as Deadpool or Wolverine… is on a Higher Level, specially with his immortality.
It varies comic to comic, but Xavier is often not actually considered Omega Level. I'm unsure if he is in this comic, but I only know of one where he is considered Omega level. The mutant classification system is a little odd, and often, I feel like it was designed to deliberately keep Prof. X at alpha, so when he wins, it's an underdog story. It really comes down to raw ability vs. skill. Xavier is usually portrayed as one of the most powerful telepaths because his skills are extremely honed, but he has an upper limit and needs the help of things like Cerebrum. A true Omega level has no upper limit. With enough training, they could continually better their skills and further push the bar every time it was met.
I barely know much about the comics, but this version of Hulk seems like one that can harness extreme rage while still remaining somewhat conscious and in control? He's talking coherently, he's mostly incapacitating them instead of sending them to the next life. But yeah, no one is going to be much of a problem for Hulk, maybe Cyclops can keep him pinned down for a little while, or blasted far away, same with Storm, maybe she can send Hulk to a temporarily safe distance, but if Xavier can't control his mind he can easily dispatch any X-man if they don't keep him at a distance somehow.
The Wolverine/Hulk match up is brutal and gory but will always end up with Logan completely battered and unconscious, tossed a dozen miles away, or worse.
People give one of the weakest members of the X-Men (Wolverine) too much credit. While Wolverine's healing factor is also incredibly powerful, Hulk's regenerative abilities are often portrayed as being even more advanced than Wolverine's. It depends on his rage level.
Still remember reading this like 15 yars ago, Hulk defeating Wolverine by shaking him and scrambling his brain was goated. Miss when comics were this peak, before the wave of new writers and fans from the MCU
I'd rather see *this* Hulk, who is pretty much Savage Hulk *and* Banner working together and they are *both* angry. So he has all the brains and all the brawn.
@sabishiihito i agree.. i just dont understand the writers coz they're not consistent.. immortal hulk, war of the hulks, heart of the monster hulk etc etc , .. they make hulk and banner work together as one mind and nooow its like back to zero were the hulk hates puny banner and bruce cant control him
The MCU doesn't love Hulk... not like we do. We will never see the real Hulk, outside of comics, and some excellent animation. I've come to terms with that. But yah, still hurts.
Its a shame what the mcu did to the hulk he was best in the first avengers and ragnarok they should have let him comtinue to be just as scsry to his teamates and the enimies
Glad this story gave us the best Hulk. Strong enough to lift the entire universe, a stronger telepath than Xavier, better healing factor than Deadpool, better sorcerer than Dr. Strange, smarter than Reed Richards and Tony Stark combined. Hulk should have no weakness and beats the entire Marvel universe in one second. That's a good story for Hulk fans!
That's absolutely incredible. That battle would have made the one at the end of the Avengers films look like a school yard brawl. Not only that, the level of sadness engulfing the Hulk causing that elemental rage is astounding!...
Life long comic book collector.. I was all "This video is just some guy narrating a book we can read on our own? Pfff" but then you did a really good job both vocally and with the visuals. Kudos and thanks.
The Illuminati all acted WAY out of character to facilitate that storyline, where an slready out of character Hulk was forced to behave massively mire out of character... ...Then commit revenge murder porn. I am a lifelong Hulk fan, and I absokutely hated this entire storyline.
MCU Disney did Hulk dirty. They depowered Hulk and made him into a wimp. Thanos beat the breaks off him and even Ironman defeated the Hulk. Thats ridiculous.
I can get behind sending away Juggernaut, but Villains like Dr Doom would be smart enough to either redirect the ship mid flight or to just come back in no time flat because they are insanely smart. Hulk as he was there probably didn't have the intellect needed to do that. Then again, Comics are known for being inconsistent, so what do I know...
As narrative It makes sense because they like Hulk, They see him as a victim so did not want to kill him. But can't let him rampage around. Their plan was to send Hulk to a survivable planet without intelligent life so Hulk would be left alone in peace. But the ship landed in the wrong place. And the explosion of the ship was caused by a third party not them. For Dr doom and other villains they can just kill them. Marvel characters have no issues with killing with a handful of exceptions like spiderman
6:28 Hulk did _NOT_ kill any of the mutants. He kicked their asses, yes, but all of them survived including the liquid metal girl shown being slammed into the ground. In fact, it was that same girl that convinced Hulk that Xavier and the rest of mutant kind has suffered so much in recent history that there was nothing more Hulk could do to them.
World War Hulk illustrates just how powerful Hulk can become the angrier he gets. His power is near unlimited. A lot of people when making Vs. comparisons such as Hulk vs Superman tend to forget that Hulk in pure rage form (especially the smarter/stronger WW Hulk) could match Supes power. He just cant fly, but wouldn’t need to because he could just jump so high, so far, and so fast its basically flying. I forget which comic it was in, but it was also demonstrated that Hulk has super speed too, so he would be able to block Supes super speed punches. I think it would end in a stalemate honestly. Hulk beat Sutr’, but Supes got beat by Godzilla and Sutr’ could probably best Godzilla.
I suppose in the very general sense that all humanity technically have the capacity for superpower mutation but I'm pretty sure his classification is still a Mutate, as I don't believe he possesses an x-gene and his powers developed from a forced genetic evolution just like the Fantastic Four or Deadpool.
Then we watch him getting beaten up by a pink narcisist alien who is trying to kill half of the universe. And get beaten up several times.. Eventually becoming zir-hulk..
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Xavier isn't omega level
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One small correction: the hulk's healing power is greater than Wolverine's (largely due to his Adamantium).
Hulk is absolutely on par with Wolverine and Deadpool, Nu-Fan. We have seen him heal from being dissected. We have seen him burned so bad he lost 3/4 of his body mass, and he was back to fully fit in seconds.
One of my favorite parts of this arc was when, in NYC, mid-rampage Hulk comes face to face with the Ghost Rider. You know, the living embodiment of vengeance. Ghost squared up, decided Hulk's desire for vengeance was legit, and rode off.
Hulk is one of the few in the Marvel Universe that's immune to the Penitant stare. He's never killed someone that didn't deserve it in some way.
@@willdavis3802bullshit
Ya ghost rider realized the hulk had a reasonable reason to destroy everyone.
Fucking trash. Ghost did doctor doom and doom laughed. Hulk is puny trash.
@@willdavis3802idk about that one chief. The reason his destruction in cities is a problem is because he's indirectly getting people killed in buildings by just destroying shit. Like an earthquake
2:11 When Hulk, no matter what iteration, calms his rage just enough to tell civilians to evacuate a city, you know he is only just getting started.
Maybe the mcu needs to be scrapped and restarted, because we were robbed from having awesome stories like these from the start
The downfall of Msheu started with a movie: that is Captain Marvel… although endgame was really good after that they just set a path…
Possibly will try the you can control me no more Banner, and give Bruce Banner living hell.
@@NomadtheHunter Yup they should've did a film with the original female Captain Marvel Monica Rambeau. Endgame was ok but they should've killed Curt instead of Natasha.
Seriously like even after endgame and all that like so what if Tony stark died male another storyline no one really dies in the comics I don't think fans would care if they did secret wars or something instead of forgetting all about them
@@NomadtheHunter"msheu" holy hell what a stupid fucking term.
The irony is, after beating evetyone senseless and getting his answer, but finding out how much xavier has suffered he leaves in peace as was always his plan.
thanks for the spoiler
So... His Plan Was Irony? I Don't Think You Know You Can Google Word Meanings and Examples. LOL!
@@coreyhutton478 the irony is that they fought him for nothing when he would left in peace on his own. Comprehension is fundemental.
@@coreyhutton478 bro what i know you aint saying that when you capitalize every second word that doesnt need capitalizing
@@Kos4EvrHe could have just waited patiently instead of forcing himself through the door.
Everyone is OP strong till writers nerf them.
not really nerf. writers have to save power stuff for later down the line. in the context of Marvel, they think in terms of years and decades
That's the sad part about all those power comparisons. lol
@@ezekielmanu3662 Your comments are so demonstrably false, it makes my teeth hurt. Marvel writers (especially X-Men writers) don't think beyond their own writing run, and they certainly don't think in terms of "years and decades". There is no long-term thought put into their characters powers whatsoever. If there was, they wouldn't take the lazy way out by continuously amping up the powers of their characters (this is especially true of the mutant books). Instead, writers would come up with new, creative ways for superheroes to use their existing powers, not just keep increasing powers exponentially. But no, they just take the lazy route and make their characters more OP because they lack the talent to come up with new ways to use existing powers creatively. Given enough time, I wouldn't be surprised if every Marvel mutant eventually ends up with Omega level powers. Just look at Iceman's powers now. Fucking ridiculous. Like batshit bonkers fucking ridiculous. Welcome to Marvel!
@@ezekielmanu3662
you said "not really nerf" and then proceeded to give almost a textbook definition of nerfing.....
@@ezekielmanu3662 atleast marvel is more consistant than DC. in the same universe in the same episode or movie, one can see someone like superman struggling to fight mortals , and then go do godly acts like pulling the planet out of orbit. saw some video about superman lifting a supposed 200 quintillion tons. thats like the moon.
Some people forget that hulk gets stronger the angrier he is made. Some variants of him even change height and width with how ticked off he becomes. So seeing one of his hands wrapped around all of professor X's neck, that's not hard to believe. Neither is his ability to mop the floor with several of the X-Men. I would honestly like to see more of world war hulk, because he's focused and doesn't seem like the half speaking idiot that people like to write him to be. WWH speaks in full sentences, and is calculating. None of this " hulk smash" crap. I like the more intelligent hulk variants.
WWH is intelligent because hulk and banner are aligned in their destructive goal, even though hulk is in control
Plus he can grow gills underwater. Totally OP
@@jimjoyce4423wasn’t there another instance where he was able to survive the vacuum of space? Wouldn’t surprise me
Best is when hulk went hulk
Spidey and hulk both mopped the X-Men one out of anger, the other over a misunderstanding.
World War Hulk is OP. They never stood a chance,
Ghost Rider: Oh he's a big one
@@RedBeardJohnny61 *Zarathos: "Nah, they have it coming."
Cap but okay
@@user-iu8ho4gf4m Cap but okay.
0:02 I mean....is he really NON-cosmic being after The Immortal Hulk? The One Above All said that Hulk is....his avatar of destruction or something like that.
You mean the one below all?
@@the_infinexos Nah, at the end they went to him and he said "I AM THE ONE BELOW ALL" then they were like "cut the act" and then The One Above All revealed himself and explained everything.
@@the_infinexos The One Below All is the "Hulk" of the One Above All. From my understanding the One Above All created that aspect of himself to let there be balance in the multiverse. And The Hulk is, as the original poster said, an avatar of destruction for the One Below All. It's a bit much, but now we finally have an explanation as to why Hulk has no upper limit to his strength.
THIS is the Hulk we wanted in Avengers: End Game!!!!
That hulk would had ended Thanos no end game movie needed
@@xomox5316? You like how Thor killed Thanos in the first 10 minutes of the movie? The whole point of Endgame is about bringing back the dead.
mark ruffalo hulk is garbage
@@briyachrist Thank you. I preferred Ed Norton's version. That Hulk should have been in the MCU.
Absolutely love how he is using his brain throughout the entire battle
Hulks healing factor is better than deadpools and wolverines!
Wayyyyyy better
WAY WAY WAY BETTER!
I mean Logan kills Hulk by beeing eaten by him and slashing his way out from the inside in Old Man Logan@@ahwayzcool4630
WAYYYY WAYYY WAYYYY BETTER
way better and the MCU never even touched on this. They nerfed the Hulk so much
Nothing can kill Hulk. Not even Hulk himself. It's a blessing and a curse at the same time.
He can be killed as Bruce Banner.
Hollywood killed him …..
@@mr.vargas5648 One time he tried to off himself in one of the older comics before WW Hulk, his body literally stopped himself from going through with it and he heard The Hulk's voice in his head saying "No". I can't remember the exact issue, but it stuck with me because of how _hurt_ Bruce looked afterwards.
Hulk died when he jumped from a plane - "Death of the Incredible Hulk" - th-cam.com/video/D_Weqtc4078/w-d-xo.html
@@mr.vargas5648there is a comment already explaining the reason he cant off himself in the comics. In the films bruce says he literally had the barrel of a gun in his mouth and fired it point blank and hulk spit out the fuckin bullet. If any harm is coming bruces way hulk just comes out. He cannot die as bruce maybe by age but other than that i don’t see it happening.
the fact World War Hulk never got to be part of the mcu
is part of the reason why i fell out of love with the movies
1 Hulk movie and several supporting roles/cameos in other stories, does not do justice for the Hulk
Hulk at the door making beast look tiny is such a cool scene
100% with HULK HERE, and I'm actually starting to think Xavier is the worst thing for x-men, too. I mean, all he ever taught them is how to Continuously TAKE PUNCHES without fighting back. Look where that got them!
I think you'll like Johnathan Hickmans run with the X-Man then. Grab some House of X / Power of X comics and enjoy some really cool new takes on Xavier and his mutants
Antiquated comment. Read comics maybe?
And yet it's always Magneto's bull that causes problems.
I love how he’s like “call these kids off” before he really gets to standin on business 😂😂😂😂😂
He might not have been there for the best of reasons, but nobody can say he didn't give them a chance to run away.
It all depends on the writer and his imagination, personal preferences. There are comics in which Hulk gets owned by Jauggernaut. Nothing is canon in the comic world. One day you are the most powerful entity and in the next day, you may be reduced to being someone else's punch bag.
Yep. That's why these conversations are retarded.
Hulks healing factor is better than Deadpool and Wolverine. He has the strongest healing factor in the MCU.
Hulk has the strongest healing factor in comics, only others that come close are Wolverine and Deadpool
Hulk never had strongest healing factor after 2008 The Incredible Hulk.
Depends on the comic run
Which is also based on his level of rage. In the 80's, Banner, when he was in control of the Hulk body, had a problem with getting angry enough and his healing was slower while Wolverine had this theory as he fought the grey Hulk that his anger increased his healing.
Yeah in the MCU not the comics
Man i remember when comics were good like this
“You’re walking again, I can fix that” bruuuuuuh
Dismal (Disney) castrated The Hulk and many other powerful Marvel characters. Actually they completely destroyed Marvel AND Star Wars
Disney could never destroy Marvel or Star Wars. We will simply wait until Disney has destroyed itself and it's own reputation to the extent that those franchises will be sold off to someone worthy of them. Disney is just trying to play woke with the people who love both Star Wars and Marvel. They will fail and their garbage content will go into the dust pile where it belongs. In time we will have our stories back and done the way they should be.
My biggest gripe with Endgame was that they murdered the real Hulk off-screen because "Credible Hulk is funny, hurr durr." Hulk is as terrifying as a force-5 hurricane. Any time he's not, it's either VERY temporary or the writers are fucking up. Even in the comics, Professor Hulk always had a nasty edge to him. Victims who gain power often become bullies and abusers themselves, and there was always this feeling that he was close to just smashing anything that even thought about bothering him. Then he'd do it, and we'd see we were right to worry. Now he's this giant grinning teddy bear handing out enchiladas and it just makes me sad.
@@Maladjestersame. Hulk is my favorite comic character, seeing it so castrated and diluted hurts my soul. I love Hulk because he's the desire we all have to be powerful enough not to hurt anyone but to make them leave us alone, seeing him forced into the MCU mould...he is a slave to the suits and the PC commitees now, if MCU Hulk had meta-awareness like Deadpool he would be so frustrated and angry...
I'm glad you said non cosmic. Silver Surfer could and has, drained all the energy from Hulk and made him a normal human again without batting an eye.
Yes and Hulk has also thunder clapped his head into jelly. It just matters who the writer is
@5:05 is the best line was lmfao Quick question? "can you still control them while there all the way in Connecticut" Nasty lol
Hilarious 😂 I died when he said that lmao
4:33 Hulk’s healing factor is hundreds of times stronger than Deadpool’s and Wolverine
I always thought this was one of the dumber entries in the World War Hulk crossover. I just don't believe the Hulk would have bothered with Xavier as he was not a part of the decision to exile him.
Me too, he had no reason to actually confront Xavier. The ONLY reason for the X-Men tie-ins was to have Hulk kick the various X-teams' asses.
Wasn't Xavier part of the illuminati that banished Hulk? So yes he was.
@@yoshijb9428 Xavier was part of the Illuminati, but he wasn't on Earth (he was on the Shi'ar home planet at the time) when they decided to exile Hulk and voted on it. Hulk knew this (he specifically said so), but wanted to know how Xavier would have voted if he had been there. Xavier had no clue about the plan until he came back to earth, he had no part what so ever in it.
@@carleton4199 Ah fair enough, and it's illuminati not illuminate! Lol I haven't read the comic in ages so i wasn't 100% sure.
Damn. They gave Hulk the Spider-Man treatment.
This graphic novel is the main reason why i don´t like the movies Infinity war and Endgame. It is ridicolous how easy Thanos beat up Hulk and what crybaby Hulk was afterwards. They messed it up greatly
I totally agree. I'm tired of people holding the MCU by the balls as gospel
yup what they did to hulk was the tip of the iceburg for what they planned to do for all male super heros
@@xomox5316 nonsense... im talking specifically about hulk, not some stupid hurt male ego
@@avanar5449 and yet the only movies anyone talks about or like are endgame and before everything after has been worst and keeps getting worst. Evil cannot create it can only destroy.
@@xomox5316 very true. but what does it has to do with male or female super hero? as male i do enjoy watching ms.marvel, wonderwoman and others. there is nothing per se bad about female heroes.
what is true is that the movies after endgame are getting generic. not innovative enough anymore and in some ways even too absurd. they completely lost me on them.
I hate how authors just make their favorite character omni potent in whatever comic they're writing, it's just stupid set a relatively reasonable and consistent power scale
Lol. He always gets moments like this whenever Jean is not around to literally toy with him.
Jean wouldn’t be able to stop a serious hulk or a hulk like starship hulk
Jean would have even pissed him off more😂😂
@@IELBOWUNICORNS she could orbit him from 5 miles away.
There would be no need for a fight, it would end up with a very angry Hulk orbiting earth with absolutely zero mass to push himself back down
Agree. People sleep on Jean. They don't understand how far she has come.
@@KappaKiller108actually that’s totally false , hulk has been in dead space multiple times and still found his way back , and if we are talking about the current recent few versions of them , then Jean definitely isn’t winning ,especially against starship/titan hulk , she would get stomped
I think Xavier being the neutral pacifist than he normally is on most stories would've sided with namor since he understands what it's like to be discriminated against, but i don't think hulk cares what his response is, he just hurt and is looking for people to direct all that hatred to
they obviously only give Hulk armor for aesthetic purposes , because in reality he does not need it at all.
You have very strong telekinetics on the X-man roster. You have teleporters. Hulk wins purely because the writers wanted him to. He can't fly. Launching him into space effectively solves the problem of the Hulk (and pretty much any other non-interstellar flight capable entities).
Yeah unfortunately that actually will not work on Hulk due to his physiology
he will actually adapt to be able to breathe in space, so all launching him into space is going to do is piss him off even more
@xzcrimzonomegazx9143 in that same storyline hulk is standing right outside a spaceships *in space* punching asteroids while waiting to get to earth to pull people there inside-out
@@tremor230 the MCU has too many people vastly underestimating Hulk and his abilities tbh
@@xzcrimzonomegazx9143 With no atmosphere, Hulk can't create thrust in space. Teleport him a million km from anything and he'll just starve to death. Maybe (thanks to his adaptation and regen) it'll take years, maybe a few decades... but outer space has eternity.
@@xzcrimzonomegazx9143 Either that or some incarnations of Hulk are written with the same level of consideration for storytelling that a child would do.
As Stan Lee said, the strongest person/who will win is whoever the writer wants it to be at that moment
You don't understand. I want to hear you scream.
Blackbolt as a prow cannon is so badass
Hulk is one of my favorite characters, second to Spider-Man, and I love it when he is "The Man" just the strongest guy there that can overpower everyone, especially when he is portrayed as a child, or abused spirit that can overcome anyone and anything with his anger. I believe that Hulk will get stronger than the others later down the years, because I do believe that people like Thor, especially with his new powers of the Thor Force and other things, and Hercules, and Zues, and Odin, and Galactus, and the Phenox, and others like Nightmare and Dormammu, and Maphesto and the new overpowered Future Luke Cage, Silver Surfer and demons and devils and others, are stronger than Hulk, but at least for now. I believe that Hulk will surpass them all, especially with Hulk going to go up against Eldest and The Mother of Horrors.
4:30. Actually hulks healing factor was better than Deadpool’s and wolverine’s. But then he got that taken away how we he still had a little bit of healing factor left. Even then the gold kids abilities wore off.
The most powerful beings...writers...
Hulk shows up, and practically none of the “omega level” mutants are even there to fight him.
It’s not even clear why the “omega level” stuff gets talked about, as it’s rarely ever solved an omega-level problem.
Mutants can terraform entire planets in a matter of hours, but apparently all an enemy needs to be is really strong and suddenly it all means nothing. Ummm…ok.😒
Hulk once got so angry he clapped and caused a big bang. Hulk isn't just strong, he's infinitely strong needing only sufficient rage.
In this comic arc Hulk took a single step forward and almost sank the eastern seaboard by accident, just walking forward.....
It's cuz the writers are dumb
I want to see him against 90”s x-men line-up then do this
You did a really good job with the editing and narration of this video. I’m def a fan of yours now
Hulk's strength is a complimenting factor of his healing. Turn off his healing and his body would tear itself apart. This is a flaw in every superstrong character.
Not really
It really comes down to which X-Men team composition you're talking about (and to a lesser extent what version of Hulk).
There's more than a few X-men who would be competitive against Hulk 1v1.
For instance: Jean Grey, Iceman, Rogue, Magik, etc.
The character is only as strong as it is written, buffs and nerfs.
Xavier himself “walks” out. Nice
It's really sad that Hulk went through this. And to think his war bound friend Mick did this to him, it's absolutely horrible.
Mick? Dont you mean Miek? The insectoid friend of Korg which hulk met in the movie on the other planet?
Or which Mick did you mean?
I am really curious why a war boung friend of hulk would do that to him.
@@RoFLduhasLoLgesagt Miek the insectoid friend who Hulk met. Not my insurance guy.😂
World War Hulk was such a great series. I remember the intro was him riding a spaceship outside the ship in space on his way back to earth.
"Hulk's too mad" for Xavier to control is mind is such a cop-out by the writers lol.
Small correction, hulks healing ability at its max makes wolverine and deadpool look like normal humans, dude was stripped to his skeleton and completely healed in seconds
Beast:" ATTACK FORMATION!' SIGMA
Darn, this tactic seems to be soo grindy,hours of mewing
Sure Hulk was OP in this story, but if his power level is equal to his anger…they tricked him, sent him off to space where he ends up a slave gladiator. He finally fights his way to freedom, and finds peace, acceptance, and a family. All those things he has *never* had in life…and that’s all ripped away too. No wonder he comes back stomping cracks into the earth…
Your right in this part 4:27, the Hulk’s healing factor isn’t in the same level as Deadpool or Wolverine… is on a Higher Level, specially with his immortality.
This is the hulk i signed up for not that shit MCU gave us
Gosh the comics are so superb, the movies never truly do them the justice they deserve.
Jesus Christ poor Hulk
I miss the power where he gets bigger and stronger the more angry he gets... and there is no limit to it.
I like how the rock dude's response to getting his arms torn off and thrown across the country is basically just a "Aw man... That sucks." 😅
Hulk vs Juggernaut would be nice
"Better hope she heals like Wolverine"💀
OH HE IS COSMIC NOW! Son Of The One Above All!
It varies comic to comic, but Xavier is often not actually considered Omega Level. I'm unsure if he is in this comic, but I only know of one where he is considered Omega level.
The mutant classification system is a little odd, and often, I feel like it was designed to deliberately keep Prof. X at alpha, so when he wins, it's an underdog story. It really comes down to raw ability vs. skill. Xavier is usually portrayed as one of the most powerful telepaths because his skills are extremely honed, but he has an upper limit and needs the help of things like Cerebrum. A true Omega level has no upper limit. With enough training, they could continually better their skills and further push the bar every time it was met.
A damn shame that we NEVER got to see whether or not the Juggernaut was able to beat up this Hulk triumphantly, thanks to the damn writers....😒
4:30 Hulk's healing factor is arguably superior, being able to regen far faster than either Logan or Wade.
Xavier with telepathetic powers could kill easy but i believe the creators dont want it
hulk is immortal he would just come back to life eventually
@@supersaiyan23130 LMAO, Hulk is not immortal or invincible.
I barely know much about the comics, but this version of Hulk seems like one that can harness extreme rage while still remaining somewhat conscious and in control? He's talking coherently, he's mostly incapacitating them instead of sending them to the next life. But yeah, no one is going to be much of a problem for Hulk, maybe Cyclops can keep him pinned down for a little while, or blasted far away, same with Storm, maybe she can send Hulk to a temporarily safe distance, but if Xavier can't control his mind he can easily dispatch any X-man if they don't keep him at a distance somehow.
The Wolverine/Hulk match up is brutal and gory but will always end up with Logan completely battered and unconscious, tossed a dozen miles away, or worse.
People give one of the weakest members of the X-Men (Wolverine) too much credit. While Wolverine's healing factor is also incredibly powerful, Hulk's regenerative abilities are often portrayed as being even more advanced than Wolverine's. It depends on his rage level.
Still remember reading this like 15 yars ago, Hulk defeating Wolverine by shaking him and scrambling his brain was goated. Miss when comics were this peak, before the wave of new writers and fans from the MCU
Why does it look like bro is gonna get the absolute monstrous backshots in Marvel history 💀🙏
Reminder: Stan Lee specifically created Thor to be stronger than Hulk, and able to put the smack down on Hulk.
And he has, SEVERAL TIMES.
We need the 2008 Norton hulk! Not the weak ass hulk now
Agree they should keep him and make him taller.
I'd rather see *this* Hulk, who is pretty much Savage Hulk *and* Banner working together and they are *both* angry. So he has all the brains and all the brawn.
@sabishiihito i agree.. i just dont understand the writers coz they're not consistent.. immortal hulk, war of the hulks, heart of the monster hulk etc etc , .. they make hulk and banner work together as one mind and nooow its like back to zero were the hulk hates puny banner and bruce cant control him
The MCU doesn't love Hulk... not like we do. We will never see the real Hulk, outside of comics, and some excellent animation. I've come to terms with that. But yah, still hurts.
@goozh we did.. 2008 hulk.. unfortunately, they didn't continue the storyline of that Hulk.. would have been great
Hulk has the strongest healing factor in comics.
Wolverine: Hey Bub Hows Your Stomach these days
Nice Old Man Logan reference.
Man I was enjoying your narration!
Pissing off the Hulk, well, in the words of Magneto, "And here I thought you lived in a school."
I really enjoyed this video and subbed to your channel. Good stuff!
Its a shame what the mcu did to the hulk he was best in the first avengers and ragnarok they should have let him comtinue to be just as scsry to his teamates and the enimies
7:24 I don't think Professor X is officially classified as an omega-level mutant.
Glad this story gave us the best Hulk. Strong enough to lift the entire universe, a stronger telepath than Xavier, better healing factor than Deadpool, better sorcerer than Dr. Strange, smarter than Reed Richards and Tony Stark combined. Hulk should have no weakness and beats the entire Marvel universe in one second. That's a good story for Hulk fans!
I didn't really like Hulk growing up but no matter how you feel about him, dude is badass.
That's absolutely incredible. That battle would have made the one at the end of the Avengers films look like a school yard brawl. Not only that, the level of sadness engulfing the Hulk causing that elemental rage is astounding!...
The real Hulk movie we should have gotten.
Life long comic book collector.. I was all "This video is just some guy narrating a book we can read on our own? Pfff" but then you did a really good job both vocally and with the visuals. Kudos and thanks.
The Illuminati all acted WAY out of character to facilitate that storyline, where an slready out of character Hulk was forced to behave massively mire out of character...
...Then commit revenge murder porn.
I am a lifelong Hulk fan, and I absokutely hated this entire storyline.
Hulk's healing factor is greater than that of wolverine and Deadpool
depending on who's written him at the moment. I remember Dead Pool once casually impaled Hulk with a stop sign
I love that the sentinels were like f**k this were out of here.
MCU Disney did Hulk dirty. They depowered Hulk and made him into a wimp. Thanos beat the breaks off him and even Ironman defeated the Hulk. Thats ridiculous.
The whole cocept of sending hulk away is asinine. Why not send juggernaut, dr doom or another supervillain away? They intentionally kill people.
I can get behind sending away Juggernaut, but Villains like Dr Doom would be smart enough to either redirect the ship mid flight or to just come back in no time flat because they are insanely smart. Hulk as he was there probably didn't have the intellect needed to do that. Then again, Comics are known for being inconsistent, so what do I know...
As narrative It makes sense because they like Hulk, They see him as a victim so did not want to kill him.
But can't let him rampage around. Their plan was to send Hulk to a survivable planet without intelligent life so Hulk would be left alone in peace. But the ship landed in the wrong place.
And the explosion of the ship was caused by a third party not them.
For Dr doom and other villains they can just kill them. Marvel characters have no issues with killing with a handful of exceptions like spiderman
We need a second stand alone HULK movie with Ed Norton’s version.
A story like this would be epic!
6:28 Hulk did _NOT_ kill any of the mutants.
He kicked their asses, yes, but all of them survived including the liquid metal girl shown being slammed into the ground. In fact, it was that same girl that convinced Hulk that Xavier and the rest of mutant kind has suffered so much in recent history that there was nothing more Hulk could do to them.
World War Hulk illustrates just how powerful Hulk can become the angrier he gets. His power is near unlimited. A lot of people when making Vs. comparisons such as Hulk vs Superman tend to forget that Hulk in pure rage form (especially the smarter/stronger WW Hulk) could match Supes power. He just cant fly, but wouldn’t need to because he could just jump so high, so far, and so fast its basically flying. I forget which comic it was in, but it was also demonstrated that Hulk has super speed too, so he would be able to block Supes super speed punches. I think it would end in a stalemate honestly. Hulk beat Sutr’, but Supes got beat by Godzilla and Sutr’ could probably best Godzilla.
Well... Technically speaking, the Hulk is a mutant- an Omega level mutant himself. He is the strongest there is.
I suppose in the very general sense that all humanity technically have the capacity for superpower mutation but I'm pretty sure his classification is still a Mutate, as I don't believe he possesses an x-gene and his powers developed from a forced genetic evolution just like the Fantastic Four or Deadpool.
Let’s not sleep on the fact he beat black bolt
I always thought it was silly that Hulk has plot armor against psychic attacks. I much preferred the way Jupiter's Legacy handled psychic attacks.
Hulk's healing factor has been said to be beyond Wolverine and Deadpool by FAR.
Deadpool can beat every version of the hulk in a Deadpool comic..
Keyword, Deadpool comic.
Punisher kill Hulk in his comic)
Then we watch him getting beaten up by a pink narcisist alien who is trying to kill half of the universe. And get beaten up several times.. Eventually becoming zir-hulk..
Imagine taking away his healing and thinking you can beat him, when the arc he came from did the same thing with way worse enemies.
The ending of that was real sad. All those poor kids lives cut so short. If what mercury said to hulk doesn't touch your heart you're crazy.
Lets just say in the entire World War Hulk Saga. Bruce Banner is just as angry as the Hulk is.
Hulks healing is better than wolverines
Great video!! God i love the HULK. He is my fave.
Ashley the Hulk had the best healing factor in the Marvel universe so I don't know when that changed