Reflowing random IC's, can be called a fix? The laptop screen technology, is changing! Lenovo 720s

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  • @justinspiredfallout
    @justinspiredfallout ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Nice one Sorin. Hopefully the customer has access to his Bitlocker key lol. I've had a nightmares with customers and Bitlocker keys. 😅

  • @renter84
    @renter84 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    "Reflowing random ICs and calling it a fix?" - Well that is what 90% of repair shops do...

  • @Flavius-Tech
    @Flavius-Tech ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Try hit combination with Fn + f-keys to adjust brightness. BTW you can have a stick or external ssd with windows install partition on it, and boot from them to make tests. So you do not have to rely on custommers ssd/hdd.
    Very usefull to have your own windows on a external storage thing for testing purpose.

    • @corinasechelariu1307
      @corinasechelariu1307 ปีที่แล้ว

      Indeed. Portable OS on Flashdrive is great.

    • @1080pixel
      @1080pixel ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ventoy USB is the keyword here - even working with secureboot enabled and multiple iso files

  • @ablacon64
    @ablacon64 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    BitLocker recovery usually appears when you fix (or exchange) a motherboard, or change the bios, never seen it happen when fixing a screen. I mean, the system was on at the beginning of the video, I don't understand why it showed up after messing with the screen, especially in that case, it was just a reflow.

    • @timecentral3134
      @timecentral3134 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Probably triggered by the bios reset / re-initialize routines. Perhaps because date/time are now off, or during hardware re-detect, it cannot be assured the drive is on the same hardware as it was originally. Perhaps TPM was reset as a result of the bios reset.

  • @knightwar3
    @knightwar3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Lenovo saw your laptop screen repairs and its challenging you lol nice fix

  • @untermench3502
    @untermench3502 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Actually, from my experience working as a diagnostic tech for Digital Equipment and contractors, sometimes this is the only solution left after the bed of nails tester and logical diagnostics fail to fix the problem. Solder reflow on surface mount components can have some tricky failure modes. A good microscope and patience can lead to success.

  • @lizardking8388
    @lizardking8388 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    ATTENTION SORIN:
    I found a way to get past the bit locker recovery screen:
    1) Boot to the blue recovery screen.
    2) When the screen comes up, hit escape.
    3) It will show that it is starting bit locker recovery and then go back to a blue screen where it asks to enter the recovery key; don't enter anything.
    4) Hold the power button down to power off.
    5) Power back up.
    It will boot the operating system.
    I've done this on 2 different HP laptops.

    • @patriciaoudart1508
      @patriciaoudart1508 ปีที่แล้ว

      Very useful ! Thanks🙏🧡💚👌

    • @lizardking8388
      @lizardking8388 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@patriciaoudart1508 Also I should mention that you might need to start from a completely powered down machine (battery disconnected & adapter removed) so the BIOS is reset. You will always get the boot locker blue screen whenever you reset the BIOS. After doing the sequence mentioned, it will always boot to the OS.
      I'd like to hear from anyone else who has tried this with a different brand laptop. Curious if it works on others.
      I think it's essential for repair shops to have a way to deliver the laptop to customer without a blue screen.

  • @tobiasmangoma9566
    @tobiasmangoma9566 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    With Sorin we learn all tricks that we don`t find in books.

  • @_eagleofsuger_4631
    @_eagleofsuger_4631 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Many thanks majmune (meant as endearment please don't get me wrong), I have learned a great deal from you and wish you the best. Gott mit uns!

  • @bctoner
    @bctoner ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What did I miss. The main power rail is 8 volts. I thought it should be about 19 volts.

  • @kiwanukagerald7274
    @kiwanukagerald7274 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the experience had to kick in on this,wow thanks

  • @MrYosek
    @MrYosek ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Master of electronics

  • @rudyschurmann6211
    @rudyschurmann6211 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I learn a lot through your videos. Thank you

  • @georgypushkarov9510
    @georgypushkarov9510 ปีที่แล้ว

    Maybe they watching yours video and remove dim signal.Great video.Thanks

  • @jozsi76t.15
    @jozsi76t.15 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    If the Bios is not encrypted and you can boot from a pendrive, then you can test laptops with a Linux Live Distro on a USB pendrive.

  • @akimhamlet5092
    @akimhamlet5092 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    One thing Ive noticed lately is that a lot of devices are leaving the factory with a lot of cold solder joints and a simple run of it with my soldering iron or the hot air resolves the issue and the device never sees my workbench again. So yes a reflow is a fix lol

    • @NANO-SERWIS.MAREK-DASZKE
      @NANO-SERWIS.MAREK-DASZKE ปีที่แล้ว

      Its not a issue.
      Chip is faulty.
      This is not fixing screen.

    • @Customer22374
      @Customer22374 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@NANO-SERWIS.MAREK-DASZKE nope I had the same screen same fault reflowed this chip screen still good after 7 months no issue no one flicker

  • @racztamas1980
    @racztamas1980 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good job. I have encountered this on laptops where the customer use the laptop with high load but screen closed (external monitor) and the heat from the laptops house is heating the screen. It can even cause the screen to die by heat. My experience that this only happens on laptops where the heating cooler exhales to the screen side. On other models like Asus x55X the laptop even shouts down because of overheating under load.

  • @camarasberta9498
    @camarasberta9498 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If You can adjust The brightness, may be taking 3 voltage measurements in both chip pins, at full, mid and low brightness in orden to.identify pwm on the 2nd chip, of course si a lots of time, but just a thought

  • @patriciaoudart1508
    @patriciaoudart1508 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fair demonstration think that could be common on Tablets, just brought three of them with screen crashed for ten euros. Two are Ipad, lol, one is a 11'' from Huawei, will see what I can do if it's possible to repair for my apps for synths with the teaching you made by past about tablets. Mine I learned about battery locked, not charging and relation ship between charging current and amps needed. Also usb mess as everyday I plug and unplug the USB c, that's actually the fourth cable I buy. Helpfully, a light on the cable indicate when it is not charging well. The last screen I opened seems having no problem, but I will verify the three currents like you shown, but first I have a oil liquid damage through the left loudspeaker to the screen connector, one component is damaged the board seem's working, no short anywhere. 🤗So I have a New job! This is a nice laptop, brought on the weekly city outside market for dvicy levas in Bulgaria, wich is near ten euros. 🙏🧡💚

  • @jmi2098
    @jmi2098 ปีที่แล้ว

    Trop fort le Sorin comme d'habitude, merci...

  • @forsale313
    @forsale313 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If a replacement LCD was 55 pounds, that speaks volumes in regards to what the actual whole sale cost of the laptop was is/was new (or should I say what it's actually worth). You are a real Trooper (and a Savior) to a Lot of people. At this point it's still a joy to repair laptops.....Only if it's mine because it's a real crap shoot these days. LOL Thanks for another look at what the consumer is faced with (unknowingly) when buying electronics in today's market.

  • @PCEYTube
    @PCEYTube ปีที่แล้ว +26

    If a reflow fixed the issue it's a fix 👍

    • @electronicsrepairschool
      @electronicsrepairschool  ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Ma' man :D

    • @carlosgarciaoropeza5480
      @carlosgarciaoropeza5480 ปีที่แล้ว

      @PCXode: Yes. That's right. Excellent response from you. In fact, you have to know the area where you have to reflux. Another way of putting it, it wasn't necessary to reflow (resoldering) the entire motherboard, right? Best regards.

    • @NANO-SERWIS.MAREK-DASZKE
      @NANO-SERWIS.MAREK-DASZKE ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Reflow not fixing the problem.
      Issue return soon.
      Its is chip fail issue.

    • @Customer22374
      @Customer22374 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@NANO-SERWIS.MAREK-DASZKE nope I had the same screen same fault reflowed this chip screen still good after 7 months no issue no one flicker

  • @CooLDEaFY4204Me
    @CooLDEaFY4204Me ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video

  • @rudolfra7736
    @rudolfra7736 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    On some laptops you can adjust brightness in BIOS.

  • @TheElectronicDilettante
    @TheElectronicDilettante ปีที่แล้ว

    If you can’t verify if there’s power being drawn by back light, can you try placing a length of wire inline on the positive side of the display power feed. Then take you new owon oscilloscope and a split core amp transformer (from a small amp meter) . Attach the scope probes accordingly then try cycling the dimmer button? Or just use the scope probe to back probe terminals to try to find the dimmer signal. Maybe oscilloscope can detect when dvom can’t.
    Cool video as always!!

  • @markmurphy9280
    @markmurphy9280 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello, Good work, as usual, Mark, Cambridgeshire

  • @constantinmaciuca6323
    @constantinmaciuca6323 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Salut Sorin
    Nu știu dacă are relevanta dar am observat ca o bobina a făcut o basica... cand făceai reflow la cipul al 2.lea. Dacă dai cu o viteza mai mica se vede bine. Se întâmplă la fix 10:46

  • @JazzEnso
    @JazzEnso ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cold solder

  • @icommandoi145
    @icommandoi145 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Strange fault, but a fix is a fix.

    • @NANO-SERWIS.MAREK-DASZKE
      @NANO-SERWIS.MAREK-DASZKE ปีที่แล้ว

      This is not fix.
      Screen still having issue.
      Its works 1 day maybe 14 day😅

    • @Customer22374
      @Customer22374 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@NANO-SERWIS.MAREK-DASZKE nope I had the same screen same fault reflowed this chip screen still good after 7 months no issue no one flicker

  • @edwardfletcher7790
    @edwardfletcher7790 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Goddamn lead free solder and BGA chips !!! 😠🔥

  • @patrickcardon1643
    @patrickcardon1643 ปีที่แล้ว

    You can say what you want about screws ... but they're damn handy to open and close things up ... shrinking stuff too much leads to a heap of extra problems

  • @MrDinakdakan
    @MrDinakdakan ปีที่แล้ว

    Skill and luck all in 1 sorin

  • @ch2o2
    @ch2o2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "recovery-fingy", a rubber-stripe is a "fingy", a chip is a "fingy" ...I like this flexible word, I can imagine, what it means, but what is it exactly ..a "thing", haha? (I'm not a native speaker)

    • @theNWdigital
      @theNWdigital ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes - thingy is a thing

    • @electronicsrepairschool
      @electronicsrepairschool  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Basically is a replacement word for anything :D

    • @patriciaoudart1508
      @patriciaoudart1508 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We learned🤗 a word!

    • @ch2o2
      @ch2o2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@patriciaoudart1508 ..we learned a fingy :D

  • @kennymanchester
    @kennymanchester ปีที่แล้ว

    Was it reflow, connectors reseated, or just some good luck/magic/voo doo? Win some and you lose some. This is a win

  • @MrEp5
    @MrEp5 ปีที่แล้ว

    It’s only a temporary bandaid. I had this putting a GPU in the oven. And the problem would just come back after a week. Sometimes it was very long term and was even able to be sold.

  • @caisa246010
    @caisa246010 ปีที่แล้ว

    you can test adjusting brightness in bios

  • @JamesWSleight
    @JamesWSleight ปีที่แล้ว +4

    For testing in cases with no access to the storage, you can just boot a live usb windows/linux OS.

    • @TheXlen
      @TheXlen ปีที่แล้ว

      Unless there's a BIOS password that you should not have

    • @drinkintea1572
      @drinkintea1572 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheXlen power-on password on laptop bios should be ilegal lol

    • @TheXlen
      @TheXlen ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@drinkintea1572 you mean basic security should be illegal?

    • @JamesWSleight
      @JamesWSleight ปีที่แล้ว

      @@drinkintea1572 I don't see why it should be illegal. In case of stolen laptops you can at least make it a little harder for the thieves to sell it, therefore preventing them from making much money on them. Assuming the thief doesn't know how to bypass the password altogether.

  • @dionisienatea3137
    @dionisienatea3137 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    looks like Lenovo is your main client..:)

  • @jimmysmantzas
    @jimmysmantzas ปีที่แล้ว +5

    hey Sorin, what temperature did you use to reflow the ics on the screen?

  • @laur1c
    @laur1c ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice fix Sorin, I always enjoy seeing your expertise in action! One question: this panel has LED backlight, so why would it be driven by an inverter circuit? Surely it would just be driven by a DC regulator (with PWM control for brightness)

    • @breakthru3000
      @breakthru3000 ปีที่แล้ว

      LED backlight works with something like 40 volts so you need an inverter to rise the main power rail from 8.7 volts (or 19 volts) to 40 volts

  • @electronicrepairservice2020
    @electronicrepairservice2020 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just wondering if this is just a Lenovo screen (no dim) mod or if others are going to do same. That bezel is more like just a piece of tape - what crap! My guess is that the reflow is only a temporary fix - these 'cheap' laptops aren't meant to last more 2 years. They probably made the screen that way intentionally so it would have to be replaced. Would be interesting to know how long the reflow lasts. 🤔 Good to see you show us a workaround fix for this fault.👍

  • @Hejazi1365
    @Hejazi1365 ปีที่แล้ว

    It seemed to be a floating ground issue. Somewhere between the chip and the screen

  • @matteo_z
    @matteo_z ปีที่แล้ว

    You won't be able to boot in the os until you put the bit locker key, best you can do is to swap the drive with one you own and that has an os on it (or a usb stick with "windows to go" on it, you can make one with rufus after you downloaded the windows iso with ms's tool).
    It's very annoying, but what you can't do anything about it.

  • @jozsiolah1435
    @jozsiolah1435 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had the same problem under Win 7, the icons were flashing, disappearing, the start menu stopped. The cause was the bad battery, showing the X. By regularly starting the laptop on battery, leave it to drain, stopped the problem, and didn’t happen again.

  • @8peterp
    @8peterp 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    newer laptops becoming more and more flimsy causing lot problem for second hand and refurb market. older latitudes and XPS never bent

  • @lukedavis436
    @lukedavis436 ปีที่แล้ว

    That flex on the LCD! Good grief this things almost made out of butter.... what happened to laptop's with actually DECENT construction???!!

  • @ralgor100
    @ralgor100 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey man that's the way it is sometimes🤷‍♀

  • @DIMONSE123
    @DIMONSE123 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hope its not a floating bug, when its problem return sometimes.

  • @fendularatsq2317
    @fendularatsq2317 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    could osciloscope help here?

  • @teslasapple
    @teslasapple ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A lucky ducky 🦆👍

  • @Cl4rionFTW
    @Cl4rionFTW ปีที่แล้ว

    there is a little sound in you last videos like biiiip where does it come from

  • @djtongi
    @djtongi ปีที่แล้ว

    that is probably OLED... hasn't got a backlight anymore, the pixels are lit by itself, has no more dim signal, is controlled by the image processor.

  • @berberger4814
    @berberger4814 ปีที่แล้ว

    Maybe this laptop has got hdr screen and the extra chip is for backlight brightness - in picture brightness adjustment or something

  • @JayPrakash-th4rd
    @JayPrakash-th4rd ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Most people will say Sorin was "just lucky" but we know its not , its called experience !

  • @Abdallah.795
    @Abdallah.795 ปีที่แล้ว

    We need a repair about microsoft surface laptop

  • @Swenser
    @Swenser ปีที่แล้ว

    Some have the lucky touch.

  • @paulrunell7821
    @paulrunell7821 ปีที่แล้ว

    fantastic

  • @lvlup2
    @lvlup2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think it's easier to just replace the whole screen :)

    • @OKuusava
      @OKuusava ปีที่แล้ว

      Easier to buy a new laptop ;-)

  • @edungbe2091
    @edungbe2091 ปีที่แล้ว

    When are you starting your repair course?

  • @TheMausebert
    @TheMausebert ปีที่แล้ว

    Soon you will need to connect the leds directly to the main rail.

  • @Rodriguespsyify
    @Rodriguespsyify ปีที่แล้ว

    bad contact on solder.

  • @andolis49
    @andolis49 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mulțumim pentru lecție! Poți să-ți faci un stik cu un liveOS pentru teste. Sper că ești bine! Sănătate!

  • @leetucker9938
    @leetucker9938 ปีที่แล้ว

    I miss secret component

  • @gymstrengthhakim8453
    @gymstrengthhakim8453 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes is a repair.

  • @fromabove1181
    @fromabove1181 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Salut,Sorin cum pot lua legătura cu tine sunt în Scoția lucrez într-un magazin de telefoane și șeful meu ar vrea să colaboreze pe viitor cu tine pentru ceva reparații dacă ești interesat! Mulțumesc

  • @sidjay7644
    @sidjay7644 ปีที่แล้ว

    How about reballing?
    What is it actually?
    My laptop died
    The technician did a "reballing"
    He charged me the equivalent of 60 dollars for a laptop that cost me 400 dollars brand new
    It worked for like 10 months then it died again with the same symptom
    Now the laptop is a paper weight

  • @doublesnake18
    @doublesnake18 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Reflow fixed the problem? so the new soldering technology is dodgy. and reflow is the fix for it and nothing else !

  • @kanppe
    @kanppe ปีที่แล้ว

    What did you use to replace the sticky tapes under the screen? Hot glue? ;)

    • @electronicsrepairschool
      @electronicsrepairschool  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      B7000

    • @computechsn
      @computechsn ปีที่แล้ว

      @@electronicsrepairschool hi sorin for the brightness control i think that because the computer is in recovery mode that's why it can't change maybe the graphics driver is not enabled on recovery

  • @mshone1972
    @mshone1972 ปีที่แล้ว

    Alt+F11 or Fn+F11

  • @Karim-uknwmg702
    @Karim-uknwmg702 ปีที่แล้ว

    hi can you please help me find key buttons to unlock advanced bios tab 🙏
    device model is lenovo L340-15IRH

  • @winlose3073
    @winlose3073 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cracked solder probalby.

  • @mikeh6286
    @mikeh6286 ปีที่แล้ว

    "I will not say nice". Phahaha! Damn it!

  • @yodaco
    @yodaco ปีที่แล้ว

    Flux and boil baby. You know it's right

  • @constantinmaciuca6323
    @constantinmaciuca6323 ปีที่แล้ว

    E bobina din stânga sus de lângă cipul mai pătrat

  • @JurdzLights
    @JurdzLights ปีที่แล้ว

    They assemble motherboards using a cheap lead low melting point = low cost
    Company nowadays prefer low cost to earn more.

  • @GlishaSo
    @GlishaSo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    haha nice!!!

  • @lucabarbolovici4974
    @lucabarbolovici4974 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Noice

  • @weerobot
    @weerobot ปีที่แล้ว

    Lead-Free Strikes Again...

  • @christozed
    @christozed ปีที่แล้ว

    I give 6 month ++ repair
    And maybe i said a lot time

  • @muhdzaidi
    @muhdzaidi ปีที่แล้ว

    hi I want to know, how could I fix the overheating of motherboard.

  • @aliemlek
    @aliemlek ปีที่แล้ว

    👌👌👍👍

  • @mohammedahmad7380
    @mohammedahmad7380 ปีที่แล้ว

    with those very thin laptop it always fixed by reflowing.
    we shouldn't try these type of laptops

  • @Gou_
    @Gou_ ปีที่แล้ว

    If its no longer broken, its a fix haha

  • @zoko1982
    @zoko1982 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Has anyone noticed that the last aprox 10 videos are from the shitiest brand Lenovo. All issues are pointed on that brand! Like Sorin said before, it cannot be nice, it's Lenovo..... 😂

  • @lucataszarek8782
    @lucataszarek8782 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello🤝🤯👍👍👍👍👏👏👏👏👏👋👋👋👋👋

  • @ahmed99988
    @ahmed99988 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    First ❤❤

  • @trustthemba5521
    @trustthemba5521 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Sir Sorin.
    Awkward as it may seem I just have to reach out and ask if you may be generous to share with me any one of your old cameras even the worst of them all I will greatly appreciate. It will be a great help to me.