"Some friendships are so strong, they can even transcend lifetimes". "Do you really think friendships can last more than one lifetime?" "Nice to see you again, twinkle toes".
I mean, it took six months of being trapped in a wheelchair for Korra to snap, and even then she instantly realized she went too far and felt bad about it. After that everything she did was more because of being confused and traumatized than from being impatient and rash. That's miles better than she was in Season 1.
She spend half a year in a wheelchair and she has PTSD after a lifetime of owning godlike powers and being a huge influence in the world. Wouldn't you be frustrated and impacient to get better?
Perhaps, but that doesn't make it great story telling. Also, korra fans seem to say that "Korra has great character development", but when someone says "no she doesn't" they reply "well, but that's because she's traumatised. Wouldn't you be?". You get to pick one: either she changed from season 1, or she didn't and it makes sense in the context (as uninteresting as that story choice may be to most viewers).
But it IS great storytelling. Saying "No she doesn't" is not an argument somebody can argue against, that's you just saying "No she doesn't". She changed from season 1 but like most people, she sometimes falls back into old habits, especially under stress. That doesn't mean she didn't evolve and develop.
>That doesn't mean none of that growth MATTERED or that it didn't stick. That's true, but that means it HAS TO STICK. Zuko came back later. He couldn't live with himself. Korra get mopey and angry at the people around her, whenever some setback happens. For 4 seasons... Also, it has to be interesting. Zuko was a tormented fella. His inner struggle was interesting and constantly changing. At the end of book 1, he had started to change somewhat toward good. At the end of book 2, when you expected him to be fully changed toward good, they pulled the rug out from under and he turned to the comfortable dark side once again. During book 3, he slowly became himself, the way he was 'meant to be' and turned towards good through several major actions on his part. Let's compare with Korra: Korra remains impulsive, usually lashes out at people around her and doesn't grow into her role as the avatar, except for that one bridge scene.
+Settlers6 "Perhaps, but that doesn't make it great story telling." Umm a typically strong character put into a situation of weakness and having to deal with it is DEFINITELY great storytelling, that's like the basis of some of the greatest stories. Stop trying to use flawed logic to justify you're dislike of the show.
4Tom4lepus4 idk, personally LoK is literally the only show i can forgive after that fiasco because of it's resonating storyline. GoT's coming close, hopefully. :D
ATLA, season 3, episode 6 - toph: "do you really think friendships can last more than one lifetime?" well, more than 70 years later, she gets the answer
Triforcelp when meeting Korra for the first time, toph says “nice to see you again, twinkle toes”, that’s what she always called Aang. And now there is the answer for her own question she asked when she was a kid
I think that the Korra learnt nothing argument is ridiculous. She did learn and tried to be a better Avatar. But THEN she learns about: A mysterious secret group that everyone 30+ yo in the White Lotus knew about trying to kill her whom no one decided she needed to know She has made no headway with Republic City's government, and the city easily turnt on her for the Spirit Vegetation Her philosophy and reason for living might not be necessary as she was told (Zaheer's compelling speeches) Top that off with being stuck in a wheelchair while everyone else is showing you how unnecessary your presence is, unknowingly. Her friends and family want her to not worry and get better so they do their best. Yet by fixing things it shows that she isn't warranted or needed. I think the PTSD and internal conflict is worth some pass on regression. When she tried and things went to shit and she couldn't stop that train. Now she left on a journey to regain her balance instead of continuing to take it out on everyone else. She knows she has a problem and the advice for the past three years hasnt made too much progress. She needs to figure it out. She went backwards in patience (not back to step one at least) and needs to regrow.
Korra is a terribly written character. If you like her thats fine but I get annoyed when illogical LOK fan boys/girls get confused on why people find korra to be an intolerable character My problem on why korra ptsd was dragged on, is that it is shown that she is subconsciously holding the metal poison in herself to prevent herself from becoming a full powered avatar due to her fear of her near death experience. So, it is then told by toph that korra must take the poison out of herself and in doing so she is able to have her body in full power. So when korra takes the metal out she detoxifies herself mentally, physically, and spiritually of the fear and thus becoming the avatar, as hinted when her eyes glow. That should have been the end but because the writers had to drag this plot point because they were running out of ideas of what the next episodes should be on, they make a BS excuse that Ravaa is disconnected from Korra. Why? What reason? Zaheer never disconnected Korra and Ravaas bond. The only reason why kora was weak was because of the poison she was holding into herself and now that she got it out she should be fine…but no we have to continue with this BS plot for another 10 episodes which should have ended by ep 4. Korra taking the poison out of herself was a symbol that she has accepted her near death experience and is ready to be the avatar and bare the responsibilities but instead they make up the “rava disconnected from korra” to make retards think that LOK portrayal of PTSD is “realistic.” And if that wasn’t terrible enough, how they illustrate and show korra connect back with ravaa was terrible. I was re-watching that scene where korra confronts Zaheer and Zaheer than helps korra into the spirit world. And this where things go downhill on how the show deals with PTSD so brilliantly (I said in a sarcastic voice). When Zaheer tells Korra to meditate and try to enter the spirit world, she is hindered by the last fight she had with him. But zaheers voice in the background says "let go" but all you see is korra falling and screaming and then the next second she’s in the spirit world and connected to rava. If you don’t get my issue with that scene I'll explain. When Zaheer was advising korra to let go, instead of screaming it would have been smarter if the the writers and artists drew her face relaxing and calmly breathing showing the viewers visual representation of her letting go of her trauma. Her screaming the entire scene still seems she is afraid so it confused me to see her magically connected to rava in the spirit world. This shows that Korra has not grown or matured or accepted fear. This was a terrible way to resolve her “PTSD”. Unlike in ATLA (ya I said it) where Aang is opening his chakra points and he has to confront a lot of his fears, nightmares and regrets and every time he accepts something hard, you see his body and face physically relax showing visual representation of his spiritual acceptance and now opening of chakra gates. And this why korra PTSD, her character and all-around show is shit. Of course its all opinion but this is a debate and I am using evidence and facts from the shows to come to this conclusion. LOK is a terrible show with terrible written characters and terrible written plots. You can like the show, but I am just saying how I see it.
@@hanizawady6555 she isnt and u sound mad lol... she defeated her final villain by convincing them to surrender with words of wisdom, she truly grew. love her so much
@@kingkylie9655 You say grew, I say reduced to obvious hero trope with absence of the challenge of growing. Its like she jumped from one character personality to another with no logical reason in why. She was irrational for 3 seasons and than by the second half of the 4th she changes with no obvious progression other than fans saying "she overcame PTSD" which was terribly written. She goes from loud mouth thug to a character with no other personality other than "I am a good person now." I just found her growth to be stale, boring and long winded. And once she "grew" I already had enough with her character and story that I just didnt care anymore. I just wanted it to end. And please don't start the whole "you're just an irrational ATLA fanboy who didnt give LOK a chance" because it is not true. No matter how many times the show dissapointed me with every season and every episode, with every character and story, I continued to give it a fair shot and a chance. But once the show had ended I had to give my final verdict. And it was terrible. Just my opinion.
Ethio King I can agree, LOK fans seem to often credit the series for its “character growth” as if it’s on par and as well-written as ATLA’s. I also rewatched this series a couple times, giving it a new chance every time, and in the end, I feel like the “development” of Korra’s character wasn’t truly natural or earned. Yes, the show has great moments, in fact I love most of season 3, especially the Red Lotus, and the villains in general are captivating, but overall it’s incredibly messy. Though it’s not entirely the writers’ fault due to Nickelodeon repeatedly screwing them over, I feel like fans overrate it and accuse those who do critique LOK for its many flaws, that many times outweigh its more impressive moments, as ATLA fan sheep with tainted opinions, which is totally unfair.
Korra has already gone through a lot of growth. It's true she's still not great at being patient, but compare how she is in s3 and 4 to s1 or 2. She does the Stakeout all day, and only at the end decides to charge forward, while the Korra of before probably wouldn't have been willing to wait at all. In the first episode of season 3, she helps the guy who is airbending not by being aggressive in any way, but by being calm, empathetic, and understanding. She's willing to hear Zaheer out in the Spirit World, but likely wouldn't have done so with Amon. She's been a very flawed character from the beginning, and it's one of the things that makes her the most realistic to me. She's a good person, but she doesn't always go about things the right way, and she has to learn from her mistakes. Looking back at my own life, and the ways I've messed up, I relate a lot to Korra. Getting over all of those things takes time. More than a single episode, more than a single season. While I don't think it was always written as well, Korra's growth has been fairly steady, just playing out slowly over the seasons. It's also true that some things are just aspects of her personality, just as anyone has. Some people are more patient than others, some get angry more easily, some are more take charge. These are all still impulses and personality traits she'll always have, and that she has been learning to manage. Rewatching the series this time around, I really noticed how much progress she does make over time. It doesn't mean she can't still be frustrating, but again that's been my experience with true growth: it comes in stops and starts, a little bit at a time, and mostly through more mistakes. If you are to compare Korra to anyone in the original series, it should be Zuko. They both have issues with anger and patience. Both do what they think is what they have to do, or believe is right. Both have had a birthright, and the concept of who they are supposed to be (Prince Zuko and Avatar Korra) in their heads, and have to figure out who they are beyond those titles. Both have to mess up again and again and again (and seemingly re-learn the same lesson, as Zuko had to in season 3) in order for them to fully grow as people into who they truly are.
QueenInTheNorth Couldn't have said it better myself. Korra is my favorite character because of how compelling she is both as a character and her overall journey and growth. She's been through a lot and she came out a better person.
Definitely, I feel the exact same way. There are a number of ways I relate to Korra (that I'll get to later on) but her flaws and slow character growth are two of them. There are a lot of ways you can see her growth that I didn't mention too, like how she dealt with the Earth Queen. S1 Korra wouldn't have been able to keep her head with her at all, but s3 Korra, though very clearly irritated, knew that they needed to find the airbenders and did her best to work with the Queen as a result. I love how much she changes over time, and though there were plenty of moments where she frustrated me, she always felt very real, again much like Zuko.
QueenInTheNorth I completely agree. I too relate to Korra in a number of ways and she does remind me of Zuko a lot. They both fail more than succeed and they out of everyone had the most difficult time when it comes to facing their own personal issues.
yesss! thats why it's weird for me to see people love zuko (and or toph), only when those same people are indifferent/hate korra when there's similarities RIGHT there. zuko pushed iroh away at first, much like s2 korra with her dad. with toph+korra, they both were sheltered/not having people skills, but knew how to fight. all 3 were stubborn, very physical over spiritual ppl and they didn't always listen to people..tenzin+korra's dad, toph's parents + katara and iroh. but they all learned how to fight for what's morally good in their own way, owned up to their faults and learned from it.
Who else laughed so hard when they first saw that picture of Aang? I love how some things never change. Even though Aang grew up, his goofiness is still there.
Literally ALL of her moments of slight rage weren't even directed at anyone she was venting which everyone with medical issues breaks to need to do at some point. She immediately said it came out wrong and didn't mean it that way and she didn't really snap at tenzi she definitely didn't mean the threat and her throwing the helmet is also like a this fucking sucks type of moment rather than anger.
Stagetail Whoa calm the hell down. And what do you mean? Aang had rarely any freak outs and everyone defends him. The desert was his only lashing out moment and even Katara understood why. You're acting like him in the desert right now. Nobody defends Korra they say her actions are understandable in season 1 and 2 even if they're bad calls because yeah she didn't have outside contact no relationships nothing just training and family because they tried to kidnap her as a baby. And she hasn't done anything wrong in these two episodes besides be frustrated. You don't have medically traumatizing ailements or injuries three weeks of depression was sad and normal it took her 2 years to actually get angry about it she wanted results she almost gave up. And she didn't hurt anybody by venting. Your lack of understanding and sympathy for someone venting then apologizing even when they've shown large amounts of growth in life is typical of today sadly. Unless you go through it somehow you think people who go through things should "suck it up and be happy" unrealistic as that may be.
Stagetail When my I found out I was walking around on a crushed hip for a year without knowing because my sickle cell killed off cells there didn't break me the surgeries didn't break me the wheelchair 3 different times didn't break me my spine having fractures also because of that didn't break me but the fact I held all of that in for years upon years brought me to a point where I was exhausted and being told the pain couldn't be fixed because of spikes sticking out of my spine didn't bother me what bothered me was that I personally couldn't stop it. I got out of that deep whole after finally venting and can fight again. I didn't yell at others I was depressed first and eventually I told people to stop repeating themselves if worded wrong I apologized simple. Just like Korra I was not angry with anyone but myself and circumstances but just like Korra I got past that. Not over it. I grew from it.
Her hot headed-ness was a given character trait by the creators. And people don't grow out of certain things. Its just their way of saying few flaws you have doesn't make them a terrible individuals . Korra is still good natured and kind. Not every hero has to be a pure saint.
Mif M Exactly and even though she's still a bit hot headed experiences have slowed her down and made her far more patient. You think she would've sat there for a 24 hour stake out in season 1? Hell no lol she learned and didn't do anything until the end.
Korra isn't an angst ridden teen. She's dealing with a near death experience, her inability to act as the avatar (which is wrapped up with her entire self worth), her inability to help and having her friends and family risk their lives doing what she should be. As well as everything that happened in the second season that she never really did have a chance to deal with. I feel like everyone is so hard on Korra. I felt like this episode dealt with PTSD, anxiety and depression very well.
I love that broken mirror symbolism at the beginning as well as Dark Korra chaining herself to Korra. Broken and not able to escape what happened to her. Korra was not a patient person before, but I think she's a lot more patient in comparison to say S1/first half of S2 Korra. Here though, we do indeed have to keep in mind that she's dealing with a lot. For a once physically strong and independent person, being reduced to this kind of state is naturally going to cause her to be upset and frustrated. Being the Avatar is important to her and she can't even dress herself, let alone do her job at the moment. I'd be surprised if she wasn't upset or frustrated about this. She does grow though. If she didn't, she would still be that selfish and reckless brat that we were introduced to at the beginning of S1. Both Aang and Korra basically first saw/met Toph in the swamp. Thought that was interesting to note. "Some friendships are so strong, they can even transcend lifetimes" ❤❤
I would think anyone could at least put themselves in her shoes and try to see why she was acting like that. She was once a strong, independent person but after what she went through, she's now weak and confined to a wheelchair not able to do anything physical for herself without help. Of course there's going to be frustration and impatience.
A lot of the things that Korra does is understandable when you actually understand her character and put yourself in her shoes. It's the same honestly for any other character. People don't necessarily have to like her, but it's not like she's just doing whatever *just because* .
PreeSasukeUchiha I wouldn't say Aang is unrealistic since I realate to his carefreeness alot more than Korra's hotheadedness despite what they both went through. Aang is optimistic and adaptable because of how he was brought up him and Korra are drastically different. To me I liked him from the start for Korra I started liking her more when she changed. Aang journey was about freedom(air) while Korra's about change(water).
I always love your analyses in the videos. And I agree with what you guys discussed about Korra. Not hate against Aang, I love that little baldy so much and he does have relatable qualities, but as the main protagonist they could have gotten a bit further with him in is given circumstances, but the creators were aware (they’ve discussed this topic in interviews) and knew they had to target a family audience with a likable lead. It’s why I feel though characters like Katara and Zuko are the most relatable and developed cuz you clearly see where their flawed and how they grow, and even had the characters criticize them, Zuko was obvious as to why haha, but Katara bumped heads with all of them time to time. She was portrayed as the stick in the mud. Korra as a lead would be like having either of them as a lead. Either Katara or Zuko as lead would not have pulled in as wide of audience as Aang did. Just to be clear, this is it not criticizing TLAB but simply understanding the differences to the approaches of both shows.
Korra doesn't revert back her development. Yes, she is immensely frustrated and hopeless.. but why is that so? Korra's entire identity is gone right now. She always WANTED to be the Avatar so badly. She was so proud that she had the chance to help the world and enjoyed the spotlight. And after the events of Book 3, her spirit and connection to said Avatar-stuff is completely shattered. The world even evolves without her (Kuvira unites the Earth Kingdom while Asami fixes Republic City and the Airbenders stabilize the world as well). She feels not-needed anymore, which is exactly what Amon said to her in Book 1 (and Book 3 as a hallucination).
"The world doesn't need you anymore" "The time of the Avatar is over, Korra. Give up." "There's no use fighting anymore, let go" "LEt Go leT gO let go"
I feel like you guys havent noticed that korra has been a lot more patient since the beginning of book 3 now. Here she is going through a lot of shit, and any normal person would be pissed at everything. Even aang had his impatient moments, when he tried to do firebending before he learned earth bending, when appa was stolen and moments like that, so i'd say korra as been sticking to that patience for a while now.
Do you remember this scene in *ATLA Book 3, Episode 6 (The Avatar and the Fire Lord):* *Roku: **_"Some friendships are so strong, they can even transcend lifetimes."_* Then *Toph* asks *Aang* if that is really possible which he confirms... And when we look at this *future reunion* in this episode of Korra between *"Aang"* and *Toph* I almost teared up. *_"Long time no see, twinkle toes."_* That moment in ATLA is just so sweet and now also a little bit sad in retrospect. :')
Eric, Korra is changing since book 1. Ok, she made mistakes, but look how she grow as a character. She sacrifice herself to save the air nation, a prove of her selfless. You just see what she do wrong and the opposite when is about Tenzin being a not very good teacher, or Mako, for example. Anyway, i hope you will understand at least in the series finale.
Korra isn't patient? Can ANYBODY be patient 100% of the time, all the time, for 2 years?! When Korra snapped at Katara, she instantly realized it and immediately felt remorseful for it. Season 1 Korra wasn't like that. And while character growth normally works that we shouldn't ever see her face the same issue again for it to be 'real' growth, in REAL life it doesn't work like that. I really like that they didn't just stick to tropes (even though that is what most people like, and given that most people come to understand the real world through media, they get a wrong impression about what change is like). I like Korra's growth better because impatience is a part of life. You learn to deal with it, rather than overcome it once and never face it ever again. As somebody who daily works with patients on rehab, I can testify that frustration can actually be an important part of a long-term recovery. It shows that they still care. That they are fighting. It is when a person stops being frustrated that you start getting worried - it is good when it comes to the issue of acceptance. But it can also be dangerous, because a lot of people on the path to recovery don't learn patience, they give up. Aang was trapped in ice for 100 years. He felt bad for not being there for everybody, but there was nothing he could have done about the ice, and he wasn't aware of the war while it was going on. Korra was able to hear about and even see the chaos of the Earth Kingdom. And she wasn't able to do anything about it. After dedicating her entire life to this duty, it became the one duty she couldn't do anything about. Imagine if Aang was conscious and hearing of his people being wiped out, but he couldn't leave the iceberg to help them. That is Korra
"Korra Alone" is hands down one of the best episodes of both shows: it showcases Korra's incredible growth arc and displays complexities of battling PTSD. I think these four just started Korra way too soon after ATLA and they are still so influenced by it that they are are really missing the beauty of LOK and more specifically, Korra as a character. I don't mind criticising the show, but I think this is more the case of disinterest. This is probably the biggest episode of Korra and not only do they skip extremely important bits (walking again, letters), but they disregard (Eric in particular) Korra's prior growth (and Aang's flaws, but that's another story) and still manage to make it about ATLA. Shane seems the only one who truly enjoys the show as its own and not as an addition to ATLA.
>it showcases Korra's incredible growth arc I just can't get over the fact that some people think that Korra has this amazing character arc. Where does that thought come from? You can make the argument that she changed very slightly compared to season 1, but not significantly. What is different in Korra? She's still impatient, she's still hotheaded, she still tries to intimidate people. The show tries so hard to appear adult, but that doesn't automatically mean it is, or that Korra has some great character arc. If you wanna talk great development, Zuko's arc was much better done. >and displays complexities of battling PTSD I wouldn't call "Korra being mad and impatient" is a complexity of battling PTSD. That's just Korra being Korra. And seeing hallucinations also doesn't make something complex. Seriously, people just love throwing around words to make everything seem better than it is. The show isn't 'complex', or 'genius' or 'more mature' than ATLA. You may like the show, but that doesn't make it some great work of art. I'd say that most viewers shared the disinterest in Korra, if you look outside the comment sections of these reactions. So, in my opinion, their reactions are perfectly valid.
Really? Because I would say otherwise, especially later on. She really is a lot different in comparison to when she was first introduced in S1. It's also funny that you say she's still the same impatient and hotheaded Korra when there were a lot of people that found her to be really "tamed" this specific season (and those were the people that were saying this in a negative way btw). I also don't understand why people say that about Zuko's arc in comparison to Korra's when I honestly feel that Korra's arc is pretty much the same. Both Zuko and Korra go through a lot in terms of personal struggles, they mess up a lot, and by the end, they both realize whatever it is they're trying to learn. In the end, there are a lot of back and forths when it comes to Zuko and Korra, but they eventually get there. "I wouldn't call 'Korra being mad and impatient' is a complexity of battling PTSD. That's just Korra being Korra." Of course it isn't a complexity of battling PTSD to you, because you basically took out the context of why she was mad and impatient in the first place and reduced it to just "Korra being Korra". Well, it isn't just Korra being Korra. She's in a frickin' wheelchair and she's dealing with a lot, which is very understandable. Of course she's going to be upset, frustrated, and impatient. Who on earth wouldn't be if they were in her shoes? She went from someone who was strong and independent to someone who was weak and confined to a wheelchair not able to do anything for herself without help. Do you realize how people like that would feel? So yes, what she's going through is one of the many complexities of battling trauma.
"grow up" because I don't like Korra? I just want to debunk the nonsense floating around the Korra fanbase echochamber. I thought LoK was average, so I still enjoy watching blindwave's reactions to it, but that does put me in touch with the comment section of mostly Korra fans. And that fanbase can't stop circlejerking about how Korra is so mature and complex that Blindwave simply doesn't get it, because they seem disinterested. Well, I want to pop that comfortable bubble where you can unironically say things like "Korra has a great character arc" and say that Blindwave must be blind to not see how great Korra's arc is. Perhaps consider that their reactions are pretty close to how the average person felt watching Korra. I don't like Korra, that's very true. I have good reasons for feeling that way. You like Korra, that's fine. So far, I've mostly seen reasons that aren't grounded in reality. You can say many things about Korra (some of them good), but having a great character arc isn't one of them. She was nice to some guy that just got airbending on the bridge that one time? "OMG, great character development!" And then we never see that side of her again... Seriously, that was the one time she showed signs of maturing into her role of the avatar for the new world. And it was never heard from again. I don't think it's fair to call that character development. I'm mostly just dissapointed in LoK, because its potential was so large.
>It's also funny that you say she's still the same impatient and hotheaded Korra when there were a lot of people that found her to be really "tamed" this specific season (and those were the people that were saying this in a negative way btw). Well, I guess since those other people that supposedly exist expressed this sentiment that I never heard of, I must be wrong in my observations... And are you sure they didn't mean mopey? She still lashes out to the people around her. >Of course she's going to be upset, frustrated, and impatient. Who on earth wouldn't be if they were in her shoes? I see this 'argument' a lot. But just because it makes sense to have her act that way, doesn't mean it's enjoyable/compelling to watch as a viewer. Especially since we've seen Korra do that for most of the series already. Novelty is a big part of story telling. You often need to show something slightly new or different. Not show the same Korra doing the same things (even if it is for different reasons).
funny thing i just noticed was Aang first met/saw Toph in the swamp through that vision...korra also meets Toph in the swamp...the irony...gotta love Avatar
Funny thing is that Zuko showed up in the second episode of Book 3. This time, Toph shows up in episode 2 in Book 4. Coincidence? I think not! Also, I'm pretty sure Varrick helped in developing the maglev train Kuvira's army uses on top of all the other technology they use.
Real Deadpool I thought we all did, they did say she was alive last season! And plus, you can already tell it was her before she even said a word to Korra! Ahha she’s wearing almost the same outfit!
Yay, one of my favorite episodes! Even Korra's spiritual side has a "physical" aspect to it, unlike Aang, and that's why her "alter-ego"/Avatar state is literally haunting her. It physically hurts her because she's fighting against it: Sometimes the more you resist something, the more painful (and frightening) it can be to confront it, hence the little cat and mouse game that goes on here. This just cranks that up to 11, in a very cool way, in my opinion (: And of course, TOPH! Can't wait for the next episode!
Timberwolf410 I was always confused when after korra takes the toxins out, how come she still sees the avatar state spirit during her fight with Kuvira?
Ethio Samurai i'm glad they had that part. Pretty sure a lot of people (especially the hardcore Korra haters) would claim it as bad writing if removing the poison instantly solved her problem.
Ethio Samurai well for one I wanted them to understand the development she went through but according to Eric he didn't notice any and also when he said that thats what avatars are supposed to do like she didn't travel to fix the air nation like that wasn't important
Ethio Samurai so u didn't see her growth in season 3 and season 4? And if u didn't then don't talk to me anymore cause u clearly didn't pay attention dumbass
Ethio Samurai exactly dumbass and I'm an avatar series fan I like Atla and Lok. I hate Atla fans that shit on korra for no reason just because she's not aang. So stfu bitch u fans are cancer to the series
Dunne N' dusted So? It's their video. Besides, he *very* end of the season is out of left field for me, they could have done it with actual build-up beforehand between the two. Here, it feels out of nowhere, it's so, artificial.
Elizabeth Ababio wait wait wait how did Avatar have the same restrictions on showing couples on the show? That’s new to me, what exactly was going on? Cuz I know for a fact the production for Korra was put thru literal hell by Nick in comparison
Eric... you stole that rocky relationship joke from Sokka! Shame on you! xD Funny that it would come up right before the episode where we get to see Toph again as well since Sokka originally made that joke about Aang and Toph's rocky relationship.
To see your reactions at the end of the episode... I nearly cried haha.... because I felt like I was seeing it all for the first time as well .. alongside you :') Except to most of us who saw the episodes when they aired, we were kind of spoiled to it from the season 4 trailer. BUT STILL :P
True, but it still made everyone anticipate Toph's return in some way. When that scene came up the first time I watched, I was already going "Oh right, this is when Korra mentioned Toph".
Don't worry, one of my favorite scenes from this season was a conversation between korra and Tenzin. Tenzin said that when korra first came to republic city she was stubborn, hot headed, and selfish but now she has became a person who puts the safety of others first before her own. And you definitely see that, everyone was telling her to go into the avatar state and wipe out kuvira but korra said that she would only use it as a last resort. I think the character development and story arc of how korra changed is one of my favorite things about the legend of korra series. She changed and suffered so much she became a great person and a great avatar in the end. I love it!
So tired of people shitting on Korra(the character) with weak arguments like. (BOOK INCOMING RUNNNN!) 1. She is still hotheaded 2.She never beats anyone alone. 3.There is no character development 4. Aang was better and less whiny. While I'm sure people have presented more I'm just going to address these four initially. 1. This isn't an argument to people who say it. That's like me saying Aang is kindhearted. Personality is subjective to different criticism from different people. Korra is a fire top and far more aggressive than Aang. that is her character and that is who she is going to be a character. If you are expecting her to turn out like Aang then you are deluding yourself into thinking every Avatar is the same. We have people like Kyoshi who will kill to protect lives and doesn't have a problem with it, or Aang who is the far opposite. An Avatar is definitely more a product of their environment then they are of simply being the avatar. 2. Why does this matter? This is less a problem with Korra and more a want for you to have her be a Mary Sue like Aang (Though I guess John Doe would be more appropriate.). Is it wrong for Korra to get help? Team Avatar is there for the sole purpose of helping the Avatar. Aang wouldn't have gotten far without help from his team. Why should Korra be different? People wanting to help their protector doesn't diminish Korra imo it just means she isn't God and will face walls she cant break down alone. 3. This baffles me because it usually comes from people who like Avatar and hate Korra. People who like both or one more than the other but will put their ego aside long enough to realize both have merits never really make this claim. Well at least from what I have noticed. Character development takes many shapes and forms. People will usually say Korra's attitude doesn't change thought the series, therefore, she had no developed, meant. I personally disagree with that. Aang was the same peaceful kindhearted kid from episode 1 and that didn't bother me or anyone because we realized that was his personality and who he was raised to be. KORRA IS NOT AANG. She has a temper and an attitude that is clearly shown to be worked on as the series goes on. Korra was aired for the kids that watched avatar and so thought they could dive into the adult themes they couldn't in Avatar for the sake of being a kids show on Nickelodeon. Aang dies in ATLA and what happens? One episode later he is fine and ready to press on in his quest. Now I think if anything in the world was gonna traumatize a person (let alone a kid) it would be dying. however, we are all aware that the writers neither had the time nor reason to delve into trauma for your run of the mill hero. My problem with this argument is that it cant be argued because some level-headed neigh sayers have, but that people when making this argument set the two characters too different standards. Aang could go through a harsh event and be okay next episode (Like finding out you are the last of your people.). However in Korra the effects of traumatic/harsh events are shown to take a toll on Korra. Being Kidnapped and poisoned, having the most important thing to her taken away(bending), Being the one who loses a connection to her past lives, all of these things affect her in irreversible ways. If we are gonna be honest with ourselves Aang never faced a challenge that we knew he couldn't overcome. The only one in the series that seemed like a "Oh shit how is he gonna pull this off." was the killing Ozai dilemma which was handled by a surprise turtle who while having been seen in the show before was never said to be able to give Avatars "Yo I'm taking your bending" powers. We look to me because the final fight was cool but on the large scale, this was a big chunk of development the show avoided. Most people dislike for Korra is steeped in her personality and they feel the need to justify their disapproval by saying she had no development. You can not like Korra but don't lie and say she is the exact same Character from season 1 to 4 based only on her personality which in fact does have some give and takes as time goes on. Aang had some development from 1 through 4 and I don't berate his character for being Kindhearted and chipper for a majority of the series. I recognize what he is meant to be a character and judge him off that. 4 This isn't an arguement.......it needs nothing else said lol. For the sake of my essay here, it'll just write what I like about Korra compared to Aang and some other minor things I hear. What I like about Korra is that her job isn't a black or white one and had merit in the opposing side. Every villain she faces had a purpose to improve the world (Save for Vattu who is just evil) and went about it in extreme ways or ways they simply viewed as right and not extreme at all. Her villains left world-changing events that weren't propelled by a war but by their mission as individuals. Ozai is your usual big bad who is evil for the sake of evil and has no real reason to do what he does besides world domination. The Villians of LOK far surpass ATLA (Save for Azula this time just because I love to hate her and she would be on the list of fun villains in my head lol). Another thing I hear is that Korra is selfish which baffles me for the simple reason that she is as far from selfish as possible and is never really portrayed as such (Unless we get into the relationship department lol). Even in this episode alone, she is sad she cant do her job and help people. In the end of the last season, she is crying because her job has to be handled by other people because she is too weak to do so. Plus in that same season, she gave herself up to the Red Lotus just to ensure that the air nation was able to live on. She knew that something bad was gonna happen to her but still did it because it was the only way to keep people safe. When it comes to her job as Avatar she prides herself on it and tries her best to always be at the forefront of the fight. Essay done, Good day readers lol.
I agree with you on some points. I really liked the ending of Atla, but it did come out of no where. People complain about LOK season 2 coming out of no where, but at least Jinora is shown to have spiritual abilities instead of a lion turtle that hasn't been spoken of. Still love the ending, but it was definitely abrupt. LOK I don't think had as much character development as Atla did, in regards to all characters. In Atla, Aang started off as a goofy, kindhearted and immature kid, and acted selfishly at times (ie keeping the scroll about Katara and Sokka's dad). But by the end, he was more serious, and taking responsibility, recognizing that he needed to go up against Ozai (even though he disagreed with killing and was refusing to do that. But he finally stopped running away from responsibility). He became a fully realized avatar. Katara went from being a weak bender, to being one of the most powerful by the end, was I think was able to let go of some of the anger at her mom's murderer. Zuko I think is one of the best redemption arcs ever. There's also backstory for some of the characters, particularly Zuko. LOK had some character development too, Korra is more patient and level headed by the end, but she's the only one who really shows any development. All the other characters don't really, or only show a small development in their bending abilities (like Bolin lava bending) and not much personality wise. I think Atla did a better job with overall characterization. LOK was a great show, and was super mature and had mature themes, which kept my interest, but Korra herself could sometimes get overbearing; she wasn't awful like people make her out to be, but she would get frustrating (just like how Aang would at times, but I was more consistently frustrated with her). Definitely agree with you that the villians in LOK were super interesting. I missed the overall arching plot sometimes, but the villains were super awesome.
Ashley NL I'll definently agree that atla gave alot of love to team avatar growing as characters compared to LOK that is whybthe chara development of zuko is still getting praise and videos to this day. I feel if the creators were allowed four seasons from the start then character development would go alot smoother. I'm sure they plan the growth of every chara on ATLA to the last scene. LOK went through the corporate was with wether they would even get a budget for another season or even a greenlight .
JUDAL WRAITH Oh for sure! I definitely feel like if they were given four seasons from the get go, it would’ve been a lot smoother and more development. They got screwed horribly from Nick, especially with sticking the last bit of season three and all of four online. I think LOK haters forget that, and personally I think it’s still pretty decent for essentially starting from scratch each season. There were definitely some things I didn’t like, (like Team Avatar, I felt like they weren’t really a team in the later seasons, but just a group of people that knew one another) but it was good for the most part. The lack of character development was just a major bummer because we saw it so beautifully done in Atla. Korra had more potential than they were given.
..Korra's teenage feminist dramatic storyline is just so boring. Like I get it your a badass and are frustrated 100% of the time but can we just move on..I just feel like I read & watch these type of stories everywhere nowadays. But to be a twelve year old boy who has to Master all four elements in one summer and hide himself most of the time is far more entertaining in my opinion. Not to mention how hard it must be to be the last of your kind, loosing your old friends and family just like that..It's just so much more rare.
I guess Eric completely forgot about Season 3. Makes sense, since he barely talked about Avatar Korra's character progression and selflessness throughout the entire season. Same guy who actually had the nerve to call Avatar Korra selfish... Smh
Yeah he seems to have ignored Korra's character growth so far. She is still a bit impatient at this point but she has a right to be after her injuries from fighting Zaheer. You can even see in this episode how much she has changed and grown since season one but then Eric said that he thinks Korra hasn't learned anything yet. Also his comment about Korra finally traveling the world caught me off guard seeing as she spent all of season 3 traveling the earth kingdom. I hope Eric comes to see the changes in Korra soon.
PUtbone I've seen all of the reactions, and he doesn't mention it. Plus, that's her personality. Just because she has character growth, doesn't mean her personality will be removed. He wants her to develop into Aang, and it won't happen.
chris simon Yeah if he was actually paying attention, he'd see that she didn't go anywhere she hasn't been before. She's been to the desert in the Earth Kingdom, and she's been to the Spirit portals at the poles. He seems to think he knows more than he does, but he's forgotten a lot of details, and doesn't seem to care much about what's most important in these shows. Character. His comment about Korra not learning patience is absolutely ridiculous because he removes an entire season of character, and has no examples. It's not that she hasn't learned patience. She just doesn't want to hear the generic advice of being patient, when the world needs her NOW. It's like if he were to be upset over Aang in "The Awakening" for being impatient and wanting to redeem his honor. It's completely human for them to feel that way. Especially with their responsibility. This season revolves more around Korra's character than it does plot, and since Shane seems to be the only one remotely interested in Korra's character, I doubt I'll enjoy their reactions this season very much. Eric made me feel this same way with how he reacted to, and discussed Azula's character in their Avatar the Last Airbender reactions. Ugh... Just how I feel.
PUtbone I don't see them suddenly caring about Korra's character. This is exactly what people were saying about Azula in the ATLA reactions, lol. We were in the middle of Book 3 and the crew were still shitting on Azula's character. People kept saying that their opinion would change when we get to the finale, and I kept saying no it wouldn't, that's not how these guys work. Sure enough, their opinion didn't change, and they didn't appreciate Azula's character for what it is at all. Highly doubt they'll feel anything when Korra reconnects with Raava. They'll just say good, and now I hope she can fight Kuvira. They'll vaguely explain what she went through, will most likely get a shit ton of details wrong and that'll be it.
I think you are right. Their view of the characters is always rather one dimensional. I don't get how they didn't have any basic empathy for Azula at the end. I basically wish Calvin would have watched Korra in advance too.
Remember when Aang lashed out at Katara when Appa was missing... Korra can’t lash out after losing the ability to wash her own ass...so not your best reaction to a serious topic a show had the balls to address
terloublag exactly they don't like korra cause she isn't aang and mad cause she is 'inpatient' when she clearly has PTSD but no they don't mention that for how she acted
Rew Rose She is dealing with PTSD and depression from the remaining mercury and damn near almost dying, stop making it a pissing contest, she has the right to lash out. Watch the last season again and see she didn’t just rush in, they all had a plan and it backfired.
Ok? Aang lost the ONLY piece of his family that he had left and korra lost the ability to move her legs...for an episode. If they wanted to “have the balls to address” that properly, they wouldn’t have made her walk in the first episode and actually go through with it for at least half the season
Short hair Korra is best korra, and it's kind of annoying hearing them criticize korra for how she is handling the situation, literally no avatar has ever had to go through this and she can't even ask thier advice or ravvaas
No, Unalaq/Vaatu were responsible for breaking her connections to her past lives. She never asked for that nor did she ever expect something like that to happen (hell, I didn't expect that to happen nor was it even a possibility in my head). She got mercury poisoned because she gave up her own life for the new Air Nation. I also wouldn't say that fans are "attacking" BW, it's more pointing things out.
Yeah sure, because as we all know, Katara was always a perfect angel to her elders. Yelling at her own loving grandma just because she banished a strange Airbender kid who offered to take her to learn waterbending, but who then accidentally set off a signal to draw FN attention to their village? Yeah, totally justified. Being a total bitch to her own loving father for no apparent reason after seeing each again for the first time in years after he went off to war to fight for her own safety? Yeah, totally justified. But when Korra dares to snap at Katara for being helplessly stuck in a wheelchair for 6 months while her friends are off helping the world and Katara was being kinda impatient? *Gasp* How dare she snap at precious, perfect Katara? She’s a brat, she hasn’t learned anything!
4Tom4lepus4 Can you imagine the backlash if Korra was ever in a rough spot, and she said something like "This is humiliating. I’m royalty; these people should be giving me whatever I want!" Holy shit!
Korra is getting hate for being impulsive and angry after being in a wheelchair for months, I can't even imagine what hate she'd get if she acted like Zuko.
Your comparison is ridiculous. You are comparing a Katara from episode 1 of ATLA to Korra of Season 4 of LoK. That's the most stupid comparison one could make between two characters who are at different points in their narrative journey.
The difference between Zuko and Korra is that Zuko did not start as a protagonist. Your expectations from zuko are not the same as your expectations from your lead character. Comparing those two makes no sense.
How’s it that I understood what Korra’ going through when I was a kid, yet y’all are finding it so hard to grasp? How? How do you seriously not get it? It’s clear as day. It’s been laid out so simply, you don’t even have to dig further 🤦🏽♀️
I guess they didn't have enough time between ATLA and LOK, but it seems like it was just enough to forget every bad trait about the ATLA characters. It honestly feels to me that they're watching this just for the ATLA callbacks and such, Shane seems to be the only one actually watching LOK for what it is, i mean, Korra had no growth???? talk about selective memory omg
Maybe I had my expectations too high, but I didn't enjoy this reaction very much. I feel like you guys didn't appreciate the episode enough for the issues it tackled.
"Stagetail, you are entitled to your opinion, but it is wrong." lol, the Korra fanbase in a nutshell. "You have logical reasons as to why a story or character might not be compelling to most viewers? You must be wrong, because I liked it!"
This episode is one of the most acclaimed of the show so it clearly resonated with a lot of people. But of course there's always people who want to be negative and attack people who liked it.
Talks about missing Aang in the middle of Korra talking about potentially achieving balance, then cuts out the reaction to one of the most powerful scenes in Korra learning to walk again. Great job guys.
Anita Gligorevic I'm paying 5 dollars to support a channel I enjoy, and your reply applies to yourself as well. Get over yourself, people have opinions.
PUtbone Katara brings up Aang to give Korra a life lesson. Not for you to talk over that lesson and say you miss Aang. I have no problem with missing old characters. I just have a problem with letting that hinder your experience of the story and character at hand.
It was literally one single sentence, and it wasn't even about missing Aang. Shane just said it gets to him hearing Katara talk about Aang, which is a perfectly valid observation since that's clearly what the scene was going for. They didn't mention Aang at all during the rest of the rehabilitation scene.
Wolf6120 The scene wanted the audience to miss Aang? Lol wtf... Almost everything having to do with the previous series in this show is to further Korra's character. The scene is about finding meaning in your suffering. It's not a point of nostalgic reference like the photograph of Aang is, later in the episode. It's just something I wanted to comment on. No need to be their lawyer as if I'm accusing them of a crime.
bruh character development does not mean that korra has to give up her headstrong personality. that's not something she needs to overcome it's part of what makes her herself
You guys should check out a great video comparing Korra and Aang. Honestly think about how Aang didn't really have to go through all that much. He just had to stop a black and white /good and evil War. Korra has repeatedly been challenged by superior combatants and spiritual dilemma's I think the practically good two shoes cookie cutter Aang spoiled people. He was a cool characters but he rarley faced anything to hurt him mentally that lasted more than one or two episodes. Even Aang's dilemma with having to kill Ozai was solved for him and he didn't have to actually go through it. Korra so far has done far more for the world than Aang did (Thats not to discredit Aang) and was raised as a monk. Korra was raised saftely and was able to learn all the elements in seclusion. Two Separate upbringing and two vastly different foes for them both to fight. As you'll learn from Toph soon all of the LOK villains may have been bad but they all genuine did things for the betterment of the world.....Unlike Ozai who was just your standard badass final boss who was just evil. if Korra was just like Aang and wasn't her own character what would be the point of her? Aang was a better/nicer person sure but as far as things a Avatar has had to go through he didn't go through nearly as much as korra has. Tl;Dr Korra is the second most developed character in the Franchise along with Zuko and face much more difficult challenges than Aang did
"You guys should check out a great video comparing Korra and Aang" I'd recommend the blindwave crew watch this video instead: th-cam.com/video/QhS4a11jZOg/w-d-xo.html Well, not really, they seem to notice the flaws in Korra by themselves.
Are you incapable of reading? I I love Aang but I'm comparing what they went through. Insulting a character would be implying he was a shit character which I wasn't, morons like you make me sick as any but of critisicm burns your soul. Is the character of Superman a "bad" Character because the Character of Batman goes through more difficult matters mentality than the former? No and thats clearly what I was saying. Aang was not a bad character but he was very straight forward and your standard role model Character. Korra isn't she wasn't meant to be a role model from start to finish in a way she was here to be more relatable. Aang was raised in a way where he's almost mature as an adult before reaching adult hood and was meant to be wise upon his years. Korra is a prime example of a Teenager /young woman with natural talent who realizes you need more than that to take on the world and be what it needs, not what you want to be. Did you even read the original comment? I praised Aang as a character but stated the challenges he faced simply weren't as challenging as Korra's.
You can have your opinion but before you say I shit on Aang , actually read the post where I gave him his due and if incapable of that then I'm sorry :p Good day
"That's a good breakdown but more of the issues of the show as a whole. What were discussing here is Korra herself" That's fair. But, in my opinion, Korra was probably the weakest part of LoK. Varrick was pretty funny, Tenzin was a cool dude and badass when he wanted to be, and the choreography/animation of the show is often great. But the main protag is supposed to hold it all together, but I just couldn't care less about her when watching the show, often bidding her to please do something interesting or slightly compelling. But opinions differ. For your sake, I hope you enjoy the rest of blindwave's reactions :)
It's not because of Raava that she can bend the four elements. If you remember, Wan learned the elements from the lion turtles. He's the only one who was gifted the elements by all four lion turtles, where others were only gifted one element. That's the reason his spirit is the only one that can bend the four elements, not because he also happens to be the avatar. So Korra can still bend the four elements without being connected to Raava.
are they not allowed to give their thoughts? She is literally the current avatar so y’all needs stop when someone throws the slightest criticism towards her. You bash the ATLA community when we acknowledge that the show is AMAZINGLY GOOD but still has flaws, but then the second someone comments on Korra y’all dead have the nerves to say, “OMG stop attacking her she had so much character development unlike aang lol”
They even talked about her in the season 3 finale and wrote her name down. What's the fucking point of discussing anything and not remember it the week after.
Huge shoutout for the call out of Joaquim Dos Santos. Please, watch Voltron Legendary Defender next. Written by Tim Hendricks and produced by Joaquim and Lauren Montgomery from LoK. The premise might seem ridiculous, but Studio Mir and their presence make it quite an awesome sci-fi, but in the vein of Avatar or Korra.
I feel Eric always plays down Shanes ideas. Even though I feel Shane is the only one who thinks for himself. I feel Calvin cannot speak unless he's looking at Eric. And doesn't find anything funny unless Eric starts laughing. It's really getting more and more noticeable
Maybe it's because i came from Dragon Ball Abridged and that was the worse reactions looking back. Calvin litteraly agrees with everything Eric says and nothing that Shane says. Even though Shane knows more at times
Alrico98 Yeah Shane started hating on Azula because Eric did, and those 2 along with Aaron decided to hate Azula for the entire series. Calvin was the only one who didn't, because he had seen the show beforehand, and didn't let Eric influence his opinion of her.
Just yesterday, I saw the episode where avatar roku tells his story to aang. In that episode toph asks if people could stay friends longer than a single lifetime. Hearing her say "Nice to see you again twinkletoes" makes me tear up.
I always tear up at the end of this episode because it takes me back to Avatar when Toph says to Ang "do you really think friendships can last more than one lifetime?", and Ang says, "I don't see why not." *MY FEELS*
I don't get the "patient" thing, not for this.... She has PTSD what do you expect? She has grown, I don't think you guys have been paying attention to that and her growth if you feel that she reverts fro time to time. There's a drastic change in Korra and her personality in each season and she never truly reverts on them. Her personality is what I think you guys are mixing up with her growth. Cause at the end of the day she is a tomboy head strong women, she has that personality that is tough and rude and disrespectful if she gets ticked off but that's just Korra. In terms of her growth and understanding on what she has gone through and learned it's different. Her maturity is there, it's in the little things she have said and done that you see. Her impatience now is due to PTSD and fear as you have seen in the first two episodes. There's a lack of confidence in her which is something that's new for her given the way she got incapacitated by Zaheer and how the rest if the world continued without her giving her even more doubts about is she worthy of being the Avatar when she got bested by an air bender and various other people like the Air Nation and Kuvira have taken the Avatar's responsibility into their own hands and the world is fine. There's a sense of struggle and really deep PTSD that can only be overcomed if she truly has grown and matured throughout these past years... or she will never truly recover. And yes the mercury in season 3 was to activate her avatar form cause the poison was gonna kill her and the Avatar state was what was keeping her alive, but the poison was still there which is why she wasn't fighting with her full power agaisnt Zaheer cause of the poison and yes it was killing her from the inside while still being in the Avatar state. Yes in the fight she was always in the Avatar state. One thing about the Avatar state which is never explained in the show, but whenever an Avatar has mastered the Avatar state. When they go into the Avatar state and their eyes glow and revert back to their eyes not glowing, it means they are fully in control of the Avatar state. Oppose to when an Avatar goes Avatar state and has the glowing eyes always on, they are more in a beserk stage where they let loose without control. You can see this in Kyoshi, Roku, and Aang in the flashbacks when he is older when he goes Avatar state and his eyes glow only initially when it activates and go back to his normal not glowing eyes. That's why you also see that illusion of Avatar Korra with the change being like a berserk even in the fighting style and look. It's not that she lost her Avatar state or her connection with Raava, it's that she lost control of it and she doesn't know how to get it back. But that's why she still is able to use all four elements to answer Aaron, Raava's spirit is still there. She just lost balance in herself and doesn't know how to regain it. Spirits can't sense her but spirits are just spirits, not all spirits are super intelligent or understnad how it works. That doggo didn't sense Raava but he is just that, a little cute spirit Doggo. If she really wanted she could when gone deeper and find Iroh or another more experienced and elder spirit which could have explained to her better of what to do or why.
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"Some friendships are so strong, they can even transcend lifetimes".
"Do you really think friendships can last more than one lifetime?"
"Nice to see you again, twinkle toes".
Vader kills Dumbledore I want to believe that this quote applies to real life as well but I am conflicted since I can’t know
Vader kills Dumbledore fucking brilliant
dont cry... dont cry... *smiles and tears up*
I just cried at work
Noble Vagabond it doesn't
I mean, it took six months of being trapped in a wheelchair for Korra to snap, and even then she instantly realized she went too far and felt bad about it. After that everything she did was more because of being confused and traumatized than from being impatient and rash. That's miles better than she was in Season 1.
Something feels so wrong about this, but in a day and age where it's frown upon if you don't accept it as normal
@@blackmanwhitesuit huh?
@@beyondtrash1627 your guess is as good as mine
@@blackmanwhitesuit you don't even remember what you meant? I guess that means I'm not stupid lmao.
@@beyondtrash1627 lmao
She spend half a year in a wheelchair and she has PTSD after a lifetime of owning godlike powers and being a huge influence in the world. Wouldn't you be frustrated and impacient to get better?
Perhaps, but that doesn't make it great story telling. Also, korra fans seem to say that "Korra has great character development", but when someone says "no she doesn't" they reply "well, but that's because she's traumatised. Wouldn't you be?".
You get to pick one: either she changed from season 1, or she didn't and it makes sense in the context (as uninteresting as that story choice may be to most viewers).
But it IS great storytelling. Saying "No she doesn't" is not an argument somebody can argue against, that's you just saying "No she doesn't". She changed from season 1 but like most people, she sometimes falls back into old habits, especially under stress. That doesn't mean she didn't evolve and develop.
>That doesn't mean none of that growth MATTERED or that it didn't stick.
That's true, but that means it HAS TO STICK. Zuko came back later. He couldn't live with himself. Korra get mopey and angry at the people around her, whenever some setback happens. For 4 seasons...
Also, it has to be interesting. Zuko was a tormented fella. His inner struggle was interesting and constantly changing. At the end of book 1, he had started to change somewhat toward good. At the end of book 2, when you expected him to be fully changed toward good, they pulled the rug out from under and he turned to the comfortable dark side once again. During book 3, he slowly became himself, the way he was 'meant to be' and turned towards good through several major actions on his part.
Let's compare with Korra: Korra remains impulsive, usually lashes out at people around her and doesn't grow into her role as the avatar, except for that one bridge scene.
+Settlers6 "Perhaps, but that doesn't make it great story telling." Umm a typically strong character put into a situation of weakness and having to deal with it is DEFINITELY great storytelling, that's like the basis of some of the greatest stories. Stop trying to use flawed logic to justify you're dislike of the show.
4Tom4lepus4 idk, personally LoK is literally the only show i can forgive after that fiasco because of it's resonating storyline. GoT's coming close, hopefully. :D
ATLA, season 3, episode 6 -
toph: "do you really think friendships can last more than one lifetime?"
well, more than 70 years later, she gets the answer
in what context?
Triforcelp is this a serious question? u didn’t see both series?
@@chmzzzly yes it is, i just dont remember when toph said that
Triforcelp when meeting Korra for the first time, toph says “nice to see you again, twinkle toes”, that’s what she always called Aang. And now there is the answer for her own question she asked when she was a kid
@@chmzzzly i meant when did she ask that question exactly?
"Nice to see you again, Twinkletoes." 💔😍😭
the return of melon lord
Nice to see you again, toes twinkle
The feels I got from that line, got me teary eyed 🥺.
She got me tear bending on que
I cried ngl
I like Korra because she is very human
fuck
Stagetail
😂😂😂😂 i see what you did there
@@itsh7311 it seems there’s a deleted comment because this doesn’t make sense to me either
It baffles me how few people actually understand what Korra is going through this episode
i like korra a lot this season, i also admire this season for showing us what trauma can do to people. can't wait for the rest of the reactions!
stan min yoongi Yes! As soon as I saw this episode I was like damn she has PTSD
Season 3 and 4 work so cohesively that’s it’s beautiful. Cause and reaction.
aeris44 almost like the studio told then they’d have two years to work with.
I think that the Korra learnt nothing argument is ridiculous. She did learn and tried to be a better Avatar. But THEN she learns about:
A mysterious secret group that everyone 30+ yo in the White Lotus knew about trying to kill her whom no one decided she needed to know
She has made no headway with Republic City's government, and the city easily turnt on her for the Spirit Vegetation
Her philosophy and reason for living might not be necessary as she was told (Zaheer's compelling speeches)
Top that off with being stuck in a wheelchair while everyone else is showing you how unnecessary your presence is, unknowingly. Her friends and family want her to not worry and get better so they do their best. Yet by fixing things it shows that she isn't warranted or needed.
I think the PTSD and internal conflict is worth some pass on regression. When she tried and things went to shit and she couldn't stop that train.
Now she left on a journey to regain her balance instead of continuing to take it out on everyone else. She knows she has a problem and the advice for the past three years hasnt made too much progress. She needs to figure it out.
She went backwards in patience (not back to step one at least) and needs to regrow.
Korra is a terribly written character. If you like her thats fine but I get annoyed when illogical LOK fan boys/girls get confused on why people find korra to be an intolerable character
My problem on why korra ptsd was dragged on, is that it is shown that she is subconsciously holding the metal poison in herself to prevent herself from becoming a full powered avatar due to her fear of her near death experience. So, it is then told by toph that korra must take the poison out of herself and in doing so she is able to have her body in full power. So when korra takes the metal out she detoxifies herself mentally, physically, and spiritually of the fear and thus becoming the avatar, as hinted when her eyes glow. That should have been the end but because the writers had to drag this plot point because they were running out of ideas of what the next episodes should be on, they make a BS excuse that Ravaa is disconnected from Korra. Why? What reason? Zaheer never disconnected Korra and Ravaas bond. The only reason why kora was weak was because of the poison she was holding into herself and now that she got it out she should be fine…but no we have to continue with this BS plot for another 10 episodes which should have ended by ep 4. Korra taking the poison out of herself was a symbol that she has accepted her near death experience and is ready to be the avatar and bare the responsibilities but instead they make up the “rava disconnected from korra” to make retards think that LOK portrayal of PTSD is “realistic.” And if that wasn’t terrible enough, how they illustrate and show korra connect back with ravaa was terrible.
I was re-watching that scene where korra confronts Zaheer and Zaheer than helps korra into the spirit world. And this where things go downhill on how the show deals with PTSD so brilliantly (I said in a sarcastic voice). When Zaheer tells Korra to meditate and try to enter the spirit world, she is hindered by the last fight she had with him. But zaheers voice in the background says "let go" but all you see is korra falling and screaming and then the next second she’s in the spirit world and connected to rava. If you don’t get my issue with that scene I'll explain. When Zaheer was advising korra to let go, instead of screaming it would have been smarter if the the writers and artists drew her face relaxing and calmly breathing showing the viewers visual representation of her letting go of her trauma. Her screaming the entire scene still seems she is afraid so it confused me to see her magically connected to rava in the spirit world. This shows that Korra has not grown or matured or accepted fear. This was a terrible way to resolve her “PTSD”. Unlike in ATLA (ya I said it) where Aang is opening his chakra points and he has to confront a lot of his fears, nightmares and regrets and every time he accepts something hard, you see his body and face physically relax showing visual representation of his spiritual acceptance and now opening of chakra gates.
And this why korra PTSD, her character and all-around show is shit. Of course its all opinion but this is a debate and I am using evidence and facts from the shows to come to this conclusion. LOK is a terrible show with terrible written characters and terrible written plots. You can like the show, but I am just saying how I see it.
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@@hanizawady6555 she isnt and u sound mad lol... she defeated her final villain by convincing them to surrender with words of wisdom, she truly grew. love her so much
@@kingkylie9655 You say grew, I say reduced to obvious hero trope with absence of the challenge of growing. Its like she jumped from one character personality to another with no logical reason in why. She was irrational for 3 seasons and than by the second half of the 4th she changes with no obvious progression other than fans saying "she overcame PTSD" which was terribly written. She goes from loud mouth thug to a character with no other personality other than "I am a good person now." I just found her growth to be stale, boring and long winded. And once she "grew" I already had enough with her character and story that I just didnt care anymore. I just wanted it to end.
And please don't start the whole "you're just an irrational ATLA fanboy who didnt give LOK a chance" because it is not true. No matter how many times the show dissapointed me with every season and every episode, with every character and story, I continued to give it a fair shot and a chance. But once the show had ended I had to give my final verdict. And it was terrible. Just my opinion.
Ethio King
I can agree, LOK fans seem to often credit the series for its “character growth” as if it’s on par and as well-written as ATLA’s. I also rewatched this series a couple times, giving it a new chance every time, and in the end, I feel like the “development” of Korra’s character wasn’t truly natural or earned.
Yes, the show has great moments, in fact I love most of season 3, especially the Red Lotus, and the villains in general are captivating, but overall it’s incredibly messy. Though it’s not entirely the writers’ fault due to Nickelodeon repeatedly screwing them over, I feel like fans overrate it and accuse those who do critique LOK for its many flaws, that many times outweigh its more impressive moments, as ATLA fan sheep with tainted opinions, which is totally unfair.
Korra has already gone through a lot of growth. It's true she's still not great at being patient, but compare how she is in s3 and 4 to s1 or 2. She does the Stakeout all day, and only at the end decides to charge forward, while the Korra of before probably wouldn't have been willing to wait at all. In the first episode of season 3, she helps the guy who is airbending not by being aggressive in any way, but by being calm, empathetic, and understanding. She's willing to hear Zaheer out in the Spirit World, but likely wouldn't have done so with Amon. She's been a very flawed character from the beginning, and it's one of the things that makes her the most realistic to me. She's a good person, but she doesn't always go about things the right way, and she has to learn from her mistakes. Looking back at my own life, and the ways I've messed up, I relate a lot to Korra. Getting over all of those things takes time. More than a single episode, more than a single season. While I don't think it was always written as well, Korra's growth has been fairly steady, just playing out slowly over the seasons. It's also true that some things are just aspects of her personality, just as anyone has. Some people are more patient than others, some get angry more easily, some are more take charge. These are all still impulses and personality traits she'll always have, and that she has been learning to manage. Rewatching the series this time around, I really noticed how much progress she does make over time. It doesn't mean she can't still be frustrating, but again that's been my experience with true growth: it comes in stops and starts, a little bit at a time, and mostly through more mistakes.
If you are to compare Korra to anyone in the original series, it should be Zuko. They both have issues with anger and patience. Both do what they think is what they have to do, or believe is right. Both have had a birthright, and the concept of who they are supposed to be (Prince Zuko and Avatar Korra) in their heads, and have to figure out who they are beyond those titles. Both have to mess up again and again and again (and seemingly re-learn the same lesson, as Zuko had to in season 3) in order for them to fully grow as people into who they truly are.
QueenInTheNorth Couldn't have said it better myself. Korra is my favorite character because of how compelling she is both as a character and her overall journey and growth. She's been through a lot and she came out a better person.
Definitely, I feel the exact same way. There are a number of ways I relate to Korra (that I'll get to later on) but her flaws and slow character growth are two of them. There are a lot of ways you can see her growth that I didn't mention too, like how she dealt with the Earth Queen. S1 Korra wouldn't have been able to keep her head with her at all, but s3 Korra, though very clearly irritated, knew that they needed to find the airbenders and did her best to work with the Queen as a result. I love how much she changes over time, and though there were plenty of moments where she frustrated me, she always felt very real, again much like Zuko.
QueenInTheNorth I completely agree. I too relate to Korra in a number of ways and she does remind me of Zuko a lot. They both fail more than succeed and they out of everyone had the most difficult time when it comes to facing their own personal issues.
QueenInTheNorth They didn't talk about Korra's character or progression at all throughout all of Season 3.
yesss! thats why it's weird for me to see people love zuko (and or toph), only when those same people are indifferent/hate korra when there's similarities RIGHT there. zuko pushed iroh away at first, much like s2 korra with her dad. with toph+korra, they both were sheltered/not having people skills, but knew how to fight. all 3 were stubborn, very physical over spiritual ppl and they didn't always listen to people..tenzin+korra's dad, toph's parents + katara and iroh. but they all learned how to fight for what's morally good in their own way, owned up to their faults and learned from it.
Who else laughed so hard when they first saw that picture of Aang? I love how some things never change. Even though Aang grew up, his goofiness is still there.
I laughed so loud, loved it
Literally ALL of her moments of slight rage weren't even directed at anyone she was venting which everyone with medical issues breaks to need to do at some point. She immediately said it came out wrong and didn't mean it that way and she didn't really snap at tenzi she definitely didn't mean the threat and her throwing the helmet is also like a this fucking sucks type of moment rather than anger.
Stagetail Whoa calm the hell down. And what do you mean? Aang had rarely any freak outs and everyone defends him. The desert was his only lashing out moment and even Katara understood why. You're acting like him in the desert right now. Nobody defends Korra they say her actions are understandable in season 1 and 2 even if they're bad calls because yeah she didn't have outside contact no relationships nothing just training and family because they tried to kidnap her as a baby. And she hasn't done anything wrong in these two episodes besides be frustrated. You don't have medically traumatizing ailements or injuries three weeks of depression was sad and normal it took her 2 years to actually get angry about it she wanted results she almost gave up. And she didn't hurt anybody by venting. Your lack of understanding and sympathy for someone venting then apologizing even when they've shown large amounts of growth in life is typical of today sadly. Unless you go through it somehow you think people who go through things should "suck it up and be happy" unrealistic as that may be.
Stagetail When my I found out I was walking around on a crushed hip for a year without knowing because my sickle cell killed off cells there didn't break me the surgeries didn't break me the wheelchair 3 different times didn't break me my spine having fractures also because of that didn't break me but the fact I held all of that in for years upon years brought me to a point where I was exhausted and being told the pain couldn't be fixed because of spikes sticking out of my spine didn't bother me what bothered me was that I personally couldn't stop it. I got out of that deep whole after finally venting and can fight again. I didn't yell at others I was depressed first and eventually I told people to stop repeating themselves if worded wrong I apologized simple. Just like Korra I was not angry with anyone but myself and circumstances but just like Korra I got past that. Not over it. I grew from it.
Her hot headed-ness was a given character trait by the creators. And people don't grow out of certain things. Its just their way of saying few flaws you have doesn't make them a terrible individuals . Korra is still good natured and kind. Not every hero has to be a pure saint.
Mif M Exactly and even though she's still a bit hot headed experiences have slowed her down and made her far more patient. You think she would've sat there for a 24 hour stake out in season 1? Hell no lol she learned and didn't do anything until the end.
I honestly love how both Korra and Aang have that same awkward smile they do when taking pictures.
Korra isn't an angst ridden teen. She's dealing with a near death experience, her inability to act as the avatar (which is wrapped up with her entire self worth), her inability to help and having her friends and family risk their lives doing what she should be. As well as everything that happened in the second season that she never really did have a chance to deal with.
I feel like everyone is so hard on Korra.
I felt like this episode dealt with PTSD, anxiety and depression very well.
I love that broken mirror symbolism at the beginning as well as Dark Korra chaining herself to Korra. Broken and not able to escape what happened to her.
Korra was not a patient person before, but I think she's a lot more patient in comparison to say S1/first half of S2 Korra. Here though, we do indeed have to keep in mind that she's dealing with a lot. For a once physically strong and independent person, being reduced to this kind of state is naturally going to cause her to be upset and frustrated. Being the Avatar is important to her and she can't even dress herself, let alone do her job at the moment. I'd be surprised if she wasn't upset or frustrated about this.
She does grow though. If she didn't, she would still be that selfish and reckless brat that we were introduced to at the beginning of S1.
Both Aang and Korra basically first saw/met Toph in the swamp. Thought that was interesting to note.
"Some friendships are so strong, they can even transcend lifetimes" ❤❤
I would think anyone could at least put themselves in her shoes and try to see why she was acting like that. She was once a strong, independent person but after what she went through, she's now weak and confined to a wheelchair not able to do anything physical for herself without help. Of course there's going to be frustration and impatience.
Thank you for this beautiful explanation :>
A lot of the things that Korra does is understandable when you actually understand her character and put yourself in her shoes. It's the same honestly for any other character. People don't necessarily have to like her, but it's not like she's just doing whatever *just because* .
PreeSasukeUchiha I wouldn't say Aang is unrealistic since I realate to his carefreeness alot more than Korra's hotheadedness despite what they both went through. Aang is optimistic and adaptable because of how he was brought up him and Korra are drastically different. To me I liked him from the start for Korra I started liking her more when she changed. Aang journey was about freedom(air) while Korra's about change(water).
I always love your analyses in the videos. And I agree with what you guys discussed about Korra. Not hate against Aang, I love that little baldy so much and he does have relatable qualities, but as the main protagonist they could have gotten a bit further with him in is given circumstances, but the creators were aware (they’ve discussed this topic in interviews) and knew they had to target a family audience with a likable lead. It’s why I feel though characters like Katara and Zuko are the most relatable and developed cuz you clearly see where their flawed and how they grow, and even had the characters criticize them, Zuko was obvious as to why haha, but Katara bumped heads with all of them time to time. She was portrayed as the stick in the mud. Korra as a lead would be like having either of them as a lead. Either Katara or Zuko as lead would not have pulled in as wide of audience as Aang did.
Just to be clear, this is it not criticizing TLAB but simply understanding the differences to the approaches of both shows.
Korra doesn't revert back her development. Yes, she is immensely frustrated and hopeless.. but why is that so? Korra's entire identity is gone right now. She always WANTED to be the Avatar so badly. She was so proud that she had the chance to help the world and enjoyed the spotlight. And after the events of Book 3, her spirit and connection to said Avatar-stuff is completely shattered. The world even evolves without her (Kuvira unites the Earth Kingdom while Asami fixes Republic City and the Airbenders stabilize the world as well). She feels not-needed anymore, which is exactly what Amon said to her in Book 1 (and Book 3 as a hallucination).
"The world doesn't need you anymore"
"The time of the Avatar is over, Korra. Give up."
"There's no use fighting anymore, let go"
"LEt Go leT gO let go"
I feel like you guys havent noticed that korra has been a lot more patient since the beginning of book 3 now. Here she is going through a lot of shit, and any normal person would be pissed at everything. Even aang had his impatient moments, when he tried to do firebending before he learned earth bending, when appa was stolen and moments like that, so i'd say korra as been sticking to that patience for a while now.
Do you remember this scene in *ATLA Book 3, Episode 6 (The Avatar and the Fire Lord):*
*Roku: **_"Some friendships are so strong, they can even transcend lifetimes."_*
Then *Toph* asks *Aang* if that is really possible which he confirms...
And when we look at this *future reunion* in this episode of Korra between *"Aang"* and *Toph* I almost teared up.
*_"Long time no see, twinkle toes."_*
That moment in ATLA is just so sweet and now also a little bit sad in retrospect. :')
SmilePlease Well, scientifically speaking...
*_Oh Sokka, just hold hands!_*
Csongibongi That's why Sokka never became friends with Avatar Korra.
Sokka did help save her though :P
Hxh and now lok, i think i'am sometime as inpatient for your replies as i am to watch the video !
I can’t even comprehend how Eric doesn’t see change in korra. It’s like he’s trying to ignore it
patrick howard exactly it's clear she changed in season 3
Eric, Korra is changing since book 1. Ok, she made mistakes, but look how she grow as a character. She sacrifice herself to save the air nation, a prove of her selfless. You just see what she do wrong and the opposite when is about Tenzin being a not very good teacher, or Mako, for example. Anyway, i hope you will understand at least in the series finale.
Korra isn't patient? Can ANYBODY be patient 100% of the time, all the time, for 2 years?!
When Korra snapped at Katara, she instantly realized it and immediately felt remorseful for it. Season 1 Korra wasn't like that.
And while character growth normally works that we shouldn't ever see her face the same issue again for it to be 'real' growth, in REAL life it doesn't work like that. I really like that they didn't just stick to tropes (even though that is what most people like, and given that most people come to understand the real world through media, they get a wrong impression about what change is like).
I like Korra's growth better because impatience is a part of life. You learn to deal with it, rather than overcome it once and never face it ever again.
As somebody who daily works with patients on rehab, I can testify that frustration can actually be an important part of a long-term recovery. It shows that they still care. That they are fighting. It is when a person stops being frustrated that you start getting worried - it is good when it comes to the issue of acceptance. But it can also be dangerous, because a lot of people on the path to recovery don't learn patience, they give up.
Aang was trapped in ice for 100 years. He felt bad for not being there for everybody, but there was nothing he could have done about the ice, and he wasn't aware of the war while it was going on.
Korra was able to hear about and even see the chaos of the Earth Kingdom. And she wasn't able to do anything about it. After dedicating her entire life to this duty, it became the one duty she couldn't do anything about.
Imagine if Aang was conscious and hearing of his people being wiped out, but he couldn't leave the iceberg to help them. That is Korra
You big mad lmao
@@user-wh5wj3rw4c maybe I was 🤣. But that was years ago...
Those aren't really visions, just good old PTSD.
"Korra Alone" is hands down one of the best episodes of both shows: it showcases Korra's incredible growth arc and displays complexities of battling PTSD. I think these four just started Korra way too soon after ATLA and they are still so influenced by it that they are are really missing the beauty of LOK and more specifically, Korra as a character. I don't mind criticising the show, but I think this is more the case of disinterest. This is probably the biggest episode of Korra and not only do they skip extremely important bits (walking again, letters), but they disregard (Eric in particular) Korra's prior growth (and Aang's flaws, but that's another story) and still manage to make it about ATLA.
Shane seems the only one who truly enjoys the show as its own and not as an addition to ATLA.
This was indeed a huge episode for Korra as a character and I won't lie, I was a bit disappointed with some of the things they said.
>it showcases Korra's incredible growth arc
I just can't get over the fact that some people think that Korra has this amazing character arc. Where does that thought come from? You can make the argument that she changed very slightly compared to season 1, but not significantly. What is different in Korra? She's still impatient, she's still hotheaded, she still tries to intimidate people. The show tries so hard to appear adult, but that doesn't automatically mean it is, or that Korra has some great character arc. If you wanna talk great development, Zuko's arc was much better done.
>and displays complexities of battling PTSD
I wouldn't call "Korra being mad and impatient" is a complexity of battling PTSD. That's just Korra being Korra. And seeing hallucinations also doesn't make something complex. Seriously, people just love throwing around words to make everything seem better than it is. The show isn't 'complex', or 'genius' or 'more mature' than ATLA. You may like the show, but that doesn't make it some great work of art.
I'd say that most viewers shared the disinterest in Korra, if you look outside the comment sections of these reactions. So, in my opinion, their reactions are perfectly valid.
Really? Because I would say otherwise, especially later on. She really is a lot different in comparison to when she was first introduced in S1. It's also funny that you say she's still the same impatient and hotheaded Korra when there were a lot of people that found her to be really "tamed" this specific season (and those were the people that were saying this in a negative way btw). I also don't understand why people say that about Zuko's arc in comparison to Korra's when I honestly feel that Korra's arc is pretty much the same. Both Zuko and Korra go through a lot in terms of personal struggles, they mess up a lot, and by the end, they both realize whatever it is they're trying to learn. In the end, there are a lot of back and forths when it comes to Zuko and Korra, but they eventually get there.
"I wouldn't call 'Korra being mad and impatient' is a complexity of battling PTSD. That's just Korra being Korra."
Of course it isn't a complexity of battling PTSD to you, because you basically took out the context of why she was mad and impatient in the first place and reduced it to just "Korra being Korra". Well, it isn't just Korra being Korra. She's in a frickin' wheelchair and she's dealing with a lot, which is very understandable. Of course she's going to be upset, frustrated, and impatient. Who on earth wouldn't be if they were in her shoes? She went from someone who was strong and independent to someone who was weak and confined to a wheelchair not able to do anything for herself without help. Do you realize how people like that would feel? So yes, what she's going through is one of the many complexities of battling trauma.
"grow up" because I don't like Korra? I just want to debunk the nonsense floating around the Korra fanbase echochamber. I thought LoK was average, so I still enjoy watching blindwave's reactions to it, but that does put me in touch with the comment section of mostly Korra fans. And that fanbase can't stop circlejerking about how Korra is so mature and complex that Blindwave simply doesn't get it, because they seem disinterested. Well, I want to pop that comfortable bubble where you can unironically say things like "Korra has a great character arc" and say that Blindwave must be blind to not see how great Korra's arc is. Perhaps consider that their reactions are pretty close to how the average person felt watching Korra.
I don't like Korra, that's very true. I have good reasons for feeling that way. You like Korra, that's fine. So far, I've mostly seen reasons that aren't grounded in reality. You can say many things about Korra (some of them good), but having a great character arc isn't one of them. She was nice to some guy that just got airbending on the bridge that one time? "OMG, great character development!" And then we never see that side of her again... Seriously, that was the one time she showed signs of maturing into her role of the avatar for the new world. And it was never heard from again. I don't think it's fair to call that character development.
I'm mostly just dissapointed in LoK, because its potential was so large.
>It's also funny that you say she's still the same impatient and hotheaded Korra when there were a lot of people that found her to be really "tamed" this specific season (and those were the people that were saying this in a negative way btw).
Well, I guess since those other people that supposedly exist expressed this sentiment that I never heard of, I must be wrong in my observations... And are you sure they didn't mean mopey? She still lashes out to the people around her.
>Of course she's going to be upset, frustrated, and impatient. Who on earth wouldn't be if they were in her shoes?
I see this 'argument' a lot. But just because it makes sense to have her act that way, doesn't mean it's enjoyable/compelling to watch as a viewer. Especially since we've seen Korra do that for most of the series already. Novelty is a big part of story telling. You often need to show something slightly new or different. Not show the same Korra doing the same things (even if it is for different reasons).
Korra: “I can’t believe it? Hama?”
Toph: wtf twinkle toes 😂
Mk Seoran lol Hama.
funny thing i just noticed was Aang first met/saw Toph in the swamp through that vision...korra also meets Toph in the swamp...the irony...gotta love Avatar
Zhavorsa Asrovazh that coincidence not irony
Aaron on point with his theories as usual
Funny thing is that Zuko showed up in the second episode of Book 3. This time, Toph shows up in episode 2 in Book 4. Coincidence? I think not!
Also, I'm pretty sure Varrick helped in developing the maglev train Kuvira's army uses on top of all the other technology they use.
Ahhhhh I relive my nostalgia through you guys! Like the feeling is reincarnated through you four!
Real Deadpool I thought we all did, they did say she was alive last season! And plus, you can already tell it was her before she even said a word to Korra! Ahha she’s wearing almost the same outfit!
Real Deadpool Yeah! But at least their reaction to “Twinkle Toes” was great! That’s what I was looking for!
Real Deadpool dude you need to chill
Yay, one of my favorite episodes! Even Korra's spiritual side has a "physical" aspect to it, unlike Aang, and that's why her "alter-ego"/Avatar state is literally haunting her. It physically hurts her because she's fighting against it: Sometimes the more you resist something, the more painful (and frightening) it can be to confront it, hence the little cat and mouse game that goes on here. This just cranks that up to 11, in a very cool way, in my opinion (: And of course, TOPH! Can't wait for the next episode!
Timberwolf410 I was always confused when after korra takes the toxins out, how come she still sees the avatar state spirit during her fight with Kuvira?
Well, I'll probably talk about that when we get there (:
Have you not seen that part yet?
Yeah and it was awesome, but I prefer to talk about the respective episodes as they come up. (:
Ethio Samurai i'm glad they had that part. Pretty sure a lot of people (especially the hardcore Korra haters) would claim it as bad writing if removing the poison instantly solved her problem.
I thought this was the most powerful episode and just a little disappointed at their nonplussed reaction and discussion about it.
KnowYourHistory exactly
What were you expecting to hear from them?
Ethio Samurai well for one I wanted them to understand the development she went through but according to Eric he didn't notice any and also when he said that thats what avatars are supposed to do like she didn't travel to fix the air nation like that wasn't important
Ethio Samurai so u didn't see her growth in season 3 and season 4? And if u didn't then don't talk to me anymore cause u clearly didn't pay attention dumbass
Ethio Samurai exactly dumbass and I'm an avatar series fan I like Atla and Lok. I hate Atla fans that shit on korra for no reason just because she's not aang. So stfu bitch u fans are cancer to the series
0:39 Shane just remembered he had to do something important but it's too late to do it now...
Lol yup
Poor Korra💔
I love her so much
Left out Korras letter to Asami.
Dunne N' dusted So? It's their video. Besides, he *very* end of the season is out of left field for me, they could have done it with actual build-up beforehand between the two. Here, it feels out of nowhere, it's so, artificial.
No, it was bad writing. Quit using Nickelodeon as an excuse. Avatar had similar restrictions and it still became one the best shows of all time
Elizabeth Ababio wait wait wait how did Avatar have the same restrictions on showing couples on the show? That’s new to me, what exactly was going on? Cuz I know for a fact the production for Korra was put thru literal hell by Nick in comparison
Elizabeth Ababio 2 years ago and you still wrong
@@LiveLongArtProsper ExplAin yOurselF! I don't understand what ur saying.
Eric... you stole that rocky relationship joke from Sokka! Shame on you! xD
Funny that it would come up right before the episode where we get to see Toph again as well since Sokka originally made that joke about Aang and Toph's rocky relationship.
To see your reactions at the end of the episode... I nearly cried haha.... because I felt like I was seeing it all for the first time as well .. alongside you :')
Except to most of us who saw the episodes when they aired, we were kind of spoiled to it from the season 4 trailer. BUT STILL :P
Alrico98 The end of the S4 trailer spoiled Toph's return. We saw Korra going "I can't believe it....Toph?!"
Alrico98 Yeah it was in the trailer.
True, but it still made everyone anticipate Toph's return in some way. When that scene came up the first time I watched, I was already going "Oh right, this is when Korra mentioned Toph".
Yeah, but you gotta admit, it did give us something to look forward to whether or not she was hallucinating lol
Don't worry, one of my favorite scenes from this season was a conversation between korra and Tenzin. Tenzin said that when korra first came to republic city she was stubborn, hot headed, and selfish but now she has became a person who puts the safety of others first before her own.
And you definitely see that, everyone was telling her to go into the avatar state and wipe out kuvira but korra said that she would only use it as a last resort. I think the character development and story arc of how korra changed is one of my favorite things about the legend of korra series. She changed and suffered so much she became a great person and a great avatar in the end. I love it!
So tired of people shitting on Korra(the character) with weak arguments like. (BOOK INCOMING RUNNNN!)
1. She is still hotheaded
2.She never beats anyone alone.
3.There is no character development
4. Aang was better and less whiny.
While I'm sure people have presented more I'm just going to address these four initially.
1. This isn't an argument to people who say it. That's like me saying Aang is kindhearted. Personality is subjective to different criticism from different people. Korra is a fire top and far more aggressive than Aang. that is her character and that is who she is going to be a character. If you are expecting her to turn out like Aang then you are deluding yourself into thinking every Avatar is the same. We have people like Kyoshi who will kill to protect lives and doesn't have a problem with it, or Aang who is the far opposite. An Avatar is definitely more a product of their environment then they are of simply being the avatar.
2. Why does this matter? This is less a problem with Korra and more a want for you to have her be a Mary Sue like Aang (Though I guess John Doe would be more appropriate.). Is it wrong for Korra to get help? Team Avatar is there for the sole purpose of helping the Avatar. Aang wouldn't have gotten far without help from his team. Why should Korra be different? People wanting to help their protector doesn't diminish Korra imo it just means she isn't God and will face walls she cant break down alone.
3. This baffles me because it usually comes from people who like Avatar and hate Korra. People who like both or one more than the other but will put their ego aside long enough to realize both have merits never really make this claim. Well at least from what I have noticed. Character development takes many shapes and forms. People will usually say Korra's attitude doesn't change thought the series, therefore, she had no developed, meant. I personally disagree with that. Aang was the same peaceful kindhearted kid from episode 1 and that didn't bother me or anyone because we realized that was his personality and who he was raised to be. KORRA IS NOT AANG. She has a temper and an attitude that is clearly shown to be worked on as the series goes on.
Korra was aired for the kids that watched avatar and so thought they could dive into the adult themes they couldn't in Avatar for the sake of being a kids show on Nickelodeon. Aang dies in ATLA and what happens? One episode later he is fine and ready to press on in his quest. Now I think if anything in the world was gonna traumatize a person (let alone a kid) it would be dying. however, we are all aware that the writers neither had the time nor reason to delve into trauma for your run of the mill hero. My problem with this argument is that it cant be argued because some level-headed neigh sayers have, but that people when making this argument set the two characters too different standards. Aang could go through a harsh event and be okay next episode (Like finding out you are the last of your people.). However in Korra the effects of traumatic/harsh events are shown to take a toll on Korra. Being Kidnapped and poisoned, having the most important thing to her taken away(bending), Being the one who loses a connection to her past lives, all of these things affect her in irreversible ways.
If we are gonna be honest with ourselves Aang never faced a challenge that we knew he couldn't overcome. The only one in the series that seemed like a "Oh shit how is he gonna pull this off." was the killing Ozai dilemma which was handled by a surprise turtle who while having been seen in the show before was never said to be able to give Avatars "Yo I'm taking your bending" powers. We look to me because the final fight was cool but on the large scale, this was a big chunk of development the show avoided. Most people dislike for Korra is steeped in her personality and they feel the need to justify their disapproval by saying she had no development. You can not like Korra but don't lie and say she is the exact same Character from season 1 to 4 based only on her personality which in fact does have some give and takes as time goes on. Aang had some development from 1 through 4 and I don't berate his character for being Kindhearted and chipper for a majority of the series. I recognize what he is meant to be a character and judge him off that.
4 This isn't an arguement.......it needs nothing else said lol.
For the sake of my essay here, it'll just write what I like about Korra compared to Aang and some other minor things I hear. What I like about Korra is that her job isn't a black or white one and had merit in the opposing side. Every villain she faces had a purpose to improve the world (Save for Vattu who is just evil) and went about it in extreme ways or ways they simply viewed as right and not extreme at all. Her villains left world-changing events that weren't propelled by a war but by their mission as individuals. Ozai is your usual big bad who is evil for the sake of evil and has no real reason to do what he does besides world domination. The Villians of LOK far surpass ATLA (Save for Azula this time just because I love to hate her and she would be on the list of fun villains in my head lol).
Another thing I hear is that Korra is selfish which baffles me for the simple reason that she is as far from selfish as possible and is never really portrayed as such (Unless we get into the relationship department lol). Even in this episode alone, she is sad she cant do her job and help people. In the end of the last season, she is crying because her job has to be handled by other people because she is too weak to do so. Plus in that same season, she gave herself up to the Red Lotus just to ensure that the air nation was able to live on. She knew that something bad was gonna happen to her but still did it because it was the only way to keep people safe. When it comes to her job as Avatar she prides herself on it and tries her best to always be at the forefront of the fight.
Essay done, Good day readers lol.
Thank you for saying this agree with you all the way
I agree with you on some points. I really liked the ending of Atla, but it did come out of no where. People complain about LOK season 2 coming out of no where, but at least Jinora is shown to have spiritual abilities instead of a lion turtle that hasn't been spoken of. Still love the ending, but it was definitely abrupt. LOK I don't think had as much character development as Atla did, in regards to all characters. In Atla, Aang started off as a goofy, kindhearted and immature kid, and acted selfishly at times (ie keeping the scroll about Katara and Sokka's dad). But by the end, he was more serious, and taking responsibility, recognizing that he needed to go up against Ozai (even though he disagreed with killing and was refusing to do that. But he finally stopped running away from responsibility). He became a fully realized avatar. Katara went from being a weak bender, to being one of the most powerful by the end, was I think was able to let go of some of the anger at her mom's murderer. Zuko I think is one of the best redemption arcs ever. There's also backstory for some of the characters, particularly Zuko. LOK had some character development too, Korra is more patient and level headed by the end, but she's the only one who really shows any development. All the other characters don't really, or only show a small development in their bending abilities (like Bolin lava bending) and not much personality wise. I think Atla did a better job with overall characterization. LOK was a great show, and was super mature and had mature themes, which kept my interest, but Korra herself could sometimes get overbearing; she wasn't awful like people make her out to be, but she would get frustrating (just like how Aang would at times, but I was more consistently frustrated with her). Definitely agree with you that the villians in LOK were super interesting. I missed the overall arching plot sometimes, but the villains were super awesome.
Ashley NL I'll definently agree that atla gave alot of love to team avatar growing as characters compared to LOK that is whybthe chara development of zuko is still getting praise and videos to this day.
I feel if the creators were allowed four seasons from the start then character development would go alot smoother. I'm sure they plan the growth of every chara on ATLA to the last scene. LOK went through the corporate was with wether they would even get a budget for another season or even a greenlight .
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Oh for sure! I definitely feel like if they were given four seasons from the get go, it would’ve been a lot smoother and more development. They got screwed horribly from Nick, especially with sticking the last bit of season three and all of four online. I think LOK haters forget that, and personally I think it’s still pretty decent for essentially starting from scratch each season. There were definitely some things I didn’t like, (like Team Avatar, I felt like they weren’t really a team in the later seasons, but just a group of people that knew one another) but it was good for the most part. The lack of character development was just a major bummer because we saw it so beautifully done in Atla. Korra had more potential than they were given.
..Korra's teenage feminist dramatic storyline is just so boring. Like I get it your a badass and are frustrated 100% of the time but can we just move on..I just feel like I read & watch these type of stories everywhere nowadays. But to be a twelve year old boy who has to Master all four elements in one summer and hide himself most of the time is far more entertaining in my opinion. Not to mention how hard it must be to be the last of your kind, loosing your old friends and family just like that..It's just so much more rare.
"I'm the original Beifong!"
I never get why it's so hard for them to know names....like literally?!?
Korra suffers from PTSD.
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Yeah, and frickin' Calvin is starting to annoy me with his "Come on, Korra." Like, does he not understand she's not 100%?
So does Theon Greyjoy..
The Avatar state is a defensive mechanism. When the posion entered her body it was activated to protect Korra.
I guess Eric completely forgot about Season 3. Makes sense, since he barely talked about Avatar Korra's character progression and selflessness throughout the entire season. Same guy who actually had the nerve to call Avatar Korra selfish... Smh
Yeah he seems to have ignored Korra's character growth so far. She is still a bit impatient at this point but she has a right to be after her injuries from fighting Zaheer. You can even see in this episode how much she has changed and grown since season one but then Eric said that he thinks Korra hasn't learned anything yet. Also his comment about Korra finally traveling the world caught me off guard seeing as she spent all of season 3 traveling the earth kingdom. I hope Eric comes to see the changes in Korra soon.
PUtbone I've seen all of the reactions, and he doesn't mention it. Plus, that's her personality. Just because she has character growth, doesn't mean her personality will be removed. He wants her to develop into Aang, and it won't happen.
chris simon Yeah if he was actually paying attention, he'd see that she didn't go anywhere she hasn't been before. She's been to the desert in the Earth Kingdom, and she's been to the Spirit portals at the poles. He seems to think he knows more than he does, but he's forgotten a lot of details, and doesn't seem to care much about what's most important in these shows. Character. His comment about Korra not learning patience is absolutely ridiculous because he removes an entire season of character, and has no examples. It's not that she hasn't learned patience. She just doesn't want to hear the generic advice of being patient, when the world needs her NOW. It's like if he were to be upset over Aang in "The Awakening" for being impatient and wanting to redeem his honor. It's completely human for them to feel that way. Especially with their responsibility. This season revolves more around Korra's character than it does plot, and since Shane seems to be the only one remotely interested in Korra's character, I doubt I'll enjoy their reactions this season very much. Eric made me feel this same way with how he reacted to, and discussed Azula's character in their Avatar the Last Airbender reactions. Ugh... Just how I feel.
PUtbone I don't see them suddenly caring about Korra's character. This is exactly what people were saying about Azula in the ATLA reactions, lol. We were in the middle of Book 3 and the crew were still shitting on Azula's character. People kept saying that their opinion would change when we get to the finale, and I kept saying no it wouldn't, that's not how these guys work. Sure enough, their opinion didn't change, and they didn't appreciate Azula's character for what it is at all. Highly doubt they'll feel anything when Korra reconnects with Raava. They'll just say good, and now I hope she can fight Kuvira. They'll vaguely explain what she went through, will most likely get a shit ton of details wrong and that'll be it.
I think you are right. Their view of the characters is always rather one dimensional. I don't get how they didn't have any basic empathy for Azula at the end. I basically wish Calvin would have watched Korra in advance too.
"Nice to see you again twinkle toes"
THIS LINE ALWAYS MAKES ME EMOTIONAL EVERY FVKNG TIME
Korra Alone is easily one of the best episodes of the entire Avatar franchise. So damn deep and emotional, I love it.
Remember when Aang lashed out at Katara when Appa was missing... Korra can’t lash out after losing the ability to wash her own ass...so not your best reaction to a serious topic a show had the balls to address
terloublag exactly they don't like korra cause she isn't aang and mad cause she is 'inpatient' when she clearly has PTSD but no they don't mention that for how she acted
Lol
Rew Rose She is dealing with PTSD and depression from the remaining mercury and damn near almost dying, stop making it a pissing contest, she has the right to lash out. Watch the last season again and see she didn’t just rush in, they all had a plan and it backfired.
Rew Rose and no one is ready to have debilitating injuries or to die, not even Aang, stop trying to make him seem like a god
Ok? Aang lost the ONLY piece of his family that he had left and korra lost the ability to move her legs...for an episode. If they wanted to “have the balls to address” that properly, they wouldn’t have made her walk in the first episode and actually go through with it for at least half the season
Short hair Korra is best korra, and it's kind of annoying hearing them criticize korra for how she is handling the situation, literally no avatar has ever had to go through this and she can't even ask thier advice or ravvaas
Stagetail getting mercury poisoning was her fault ?
Stagetail No, she’s not perfect and that’s what make her interesting.
No, Unalaq/Vaatu were responsible for breaking her connections to her past lives. She never asked for that nor did she ever expect something like that to happen (hell, I didn't expect that to happen nor was it even a possibility in my head). She got mercury poisoned because she gave up her own life for the new Air Nation.
I also wouldn't say that fans are "attacking" BW, it's more pointing things out.
Stagetail how was losing the connections her fault??
Ebrahim Malik exactly. Beginning perfect isn’t interesting at all
Yeah sure, because as we all know, Katara was always a perfect angel to her elders.
Yelling at her own loving grandma just because she banished a strange Airbender kid who offered to take her to learn waterbending, but who then accidentally set off a signal to draw FN attention to their village? Yeah, totally justified.
Being a total bitch to her own loving father for no apparent reason after seeing each again for the first time in years after he went off to war to fight for her own safety? Yeah, totally justified.
But when Korra dares to snap at Katara for being helplessly stuck in a wheelchair for 6 months while her friends are off helping the world and Katara was being kinda impatient? *Gasp* How dare she snap at precious, perfect Katara? She’s a brat, she hasn’t learned anything!
Let's not even get started on Zuko who is getting a hero worship here ._.
4Tom4lepus4 Can you imagine the backlash if Korra was ever in a rough spot, and she said something like "This is humiliating. I’m royalty; these people should be giving me whatever I want!" Holy shit!
Korra is getting hate for being impulsive and angry after being in a wheelchair for months, I can't even imagine what hate she'd get if she acted like Zuko.
Your comparison is ridiculous. You are comparing a Katara from episode 1 of ATLA to Korra of Season 4 of LoK. That's the most stupid comparison one could make between two characters who are at different points in their narrative journey.
The difference between Zuko and Korra is that Zuko did not start as a protagonist. Your expectations from zuko are not the same as your expectations from your lead character. Comparing those two makes no sense.
Its kind of incredible how much better you guys have become when it comes to media literacy and just understanding characters in the last few years
I don't think you guys get korra...
Nope they aren't into typical teenage drama storylines.. it's all about The Last Airbender
How’s it that I understood what Korra’ going through when I was a kid, yet y’all are finding it so hard to grasp? How? How do you seriously not get it? It’s clear as day. It’s been laid out so simply, you don’t even have to dig further 🤦🏽♀️
I guess they didn't have enough time between ATLA and LOK, but it seems like it was just enough to forget every bad trait about the ATLA characters. It honestly feels to me that they're watching this just for the ATLA callbacks and such, Shane seems to be the only one actually watching LOK for what it is, i mean, Korra had no growth???? talk about selective memory omg
@@Henrique-wv9xq if they weren’t actually gonna give it a chance, they should’ve just not watched it at all
Maybe I had my expectations too high, but I didn't enjoy this reaction very much. I feel like you guys didn't appreciate the episode enough for the issues it tackled.
I wish Shane would talk more he seems to like Korra the most but he talks the least
Stagetail, you are entitled to your opinion, but it is wrong.
I agree completely. Shane is my favourite member and I always look forward to what he has to say. Too bad he always get talked over by Eric or Calvin.
"Stagetail, you are entitled to your opinion, but it is wrong." lol, the Korra fanbase in a nutshell. "You have logical reasons as to why a story or character might not be compelling to most viewers? You must be wrong, because I liked it!"
This episode is one of the most acclaimed of the show so it clearly resonated with a lot of people. But of course there's always people who want to be negative and attack people who liked it.
Talks about missing Aang in the middle of Korra talking about potentially achieving balance, then cuts out the reaction to one of the most powerful scenes in Korra learning to walk again. Great job guys.
PUtbone Yeah, I'll make sure to pay 10 dollars for their disinterest.
Anita Gligorevic I'm paying 5 dollars to support a channel I enjoy, and your reply applies to yourself as well. Get over yourself, people have opinions.
PUtbone Katara brings up Aang to give Korra a life lesson. Not for you to talk over that lesson and say you miss Aang. I have no problem with missing old characters. I just have a problem with letting that hinder your experience of the story and character at hand.
It was literally one single sentence, and it wasn't even about missing Aang. Shane just said it gets to him hearing Katara talk about Aang, which is a perfectly valid observation since that's clearly what the scene was going for. They didn't mention Aang at all during the rest of the rehabilitation scene.
Wolf6120 The scene wanted the audience to miss Aang? Lol wtf... Almost everything having to do with the previous series in this show is to further Korra's character. The scene is about finding meaning in your suffering. It's not a point of nostalgic reference like the photograph of Aang is, later in the episode.
It's just something I wanted to comment on. No need to be their lawyer as if I'm accusing them of a crime.
Kuvira was actually in the end of season 3
Blake Hunt Oh yeah
Some friendships are so strong, they can even transcend lifetimes
Maybe she's believing what Zahir was telling her last season, because right after she won she was depressed.. Maybe she thinks he was right.
I completely agree and couldn't have said it better^^
bruh character development does not mean that korra has to give up her headstrong personality. that's not something she needs to overcome it's part of what makes her herself
You guys should check out a great video comparing Korra and Aang. Honestly think about how Aang didn't really have to go through all that much. He just had to stop a black and white /good and evil War.
Korra has repeatedly been challenged by superior combatants and spiritual dilemma's
I think the practically good two shoes cookie cutter Aang spoiled people. He was a cool characters but he rarley faced anything to hurt him mentally that lasted more than one or two episodes. Even Aang's dilemma with having to kill Ozai was solved for him and he didn't have to actually go through it.
Korra so far has done far more for the world than Aang did (Thats not to discredit Aang) and was raised as a monk.
Korra was raised saftely and was able to learn all the elements in seclusion. Two Separate upbringing and two vastly different foes for them both to fight. As you'll learn from Toph soon all of the LOK villains may have been bad but they all genuine did things for the betterment of the world.....Unlike Ozai who was just your standard badass final boss who was just evil.
if Korra was just like Aang and wasn't her own character what would be the point of her? Aang was a better/nicer person sure but as far as things a Avatar has had to go through he didn't go through nearly as much as korra has.
Tl;Dr Korra is the second most developed character in the Franchise along with Zuko and face much more difficult challenges than Aang did
"You guys should check out a great video comparing Korra and Aang"
I'd recommend the blindwave crew watch this video instead: th-cam.com/video/QhS4a11jZOg/w-d-xo.html
Well, not really, they seem to notice the flaws in Korra by themselves.
Settlers6 I disagree. That's a good breakdown but more of the issues of the show as a whole. What were discussing here is Korra herself
Are you incapable of reading? I I love Aang but I'm comparing what they went through. Insulting a character would be implying he was a shit character which I wasn't, morons like you make me sick as any but of critisicm burns your soul.
Is the character of Superman a "bad" Character because the Character of Batman goes through more difficult matters mentality than the former? No and thats clearly what I was saying. Aang was not a bad character but he was very straight forward and your standard role model Character. Korra isn't she wasn't meant to be a role model from start to finish in a way she was here to be more relatable.
Aang was raised in a way where he's almost mature as an adult before reaching adult hood and was meant to be wise upon his years.
Korra is a prime example of a Teenager /young woman with natural talent who realizes you need more than that to take on the world and be what it needs, not what you want to be. Did you even read the original comment? I praised Aang as a character but stated the challenges he faced simply weren't as challenging as Korra's.
You can have your opinion but before you say I shit on Aang , actually read the post where I gave him his due and if incapable of that then I'm sorry :p Good day
"That's a good breakdown but more of the issues of the show as a whole. What were discussing here is Korra herself"
That's fair. But, in my opinion, Korra was probably the weakest part of LoK. Varrick was pretty funny, Tenzin was a cool dude and badass when he wanted to be, and the choreography/animation of the show is often great. But the main protag is supposed to hold it all together, but I just couldn't care less about her when watching the show, often bidding her to please do something interesting or slightly compelling. But opinions differ.
For your sake, I hope you enjoy the rest of blindwave's reactions :)
shane: half the shit i wrote is not important anymore. toph's back.
i just love that they take notes like they're in history class or something.
One of my favorite Korra episodes. And the perfect ending “nice to see you again twinkle toes” got me teared up the first time.
Really hoped you guys would like this episode more (and show overall), but everyone has their own tastes I guess.
That made me tear up with joy when toph said nice to see you again twinkle toes
It's not because of Raava that she can bend the four elements. If you remember, Wan learned the elements from the lion turtles. He's the only one who was gifted the elements by all four lion turtles, where others were only gifted one element. That's the reason his spirit is the only one that can bend the four elements, not because he also happens to be the avatar. So Korra can still bend the four elements without being connected to Raava.
I absolutely love that not only did Aang visit that village and consent to a picture, but that's the pose he chose. Classic XD
i am so excited for you all to finish this series!
I never seen this full episode but I have seen the ending scene with you know who. I've been waiting for this reaction for so long.
Honestly, I didn't enjoy their reaction anymore. They try to compare Korra to Aang a lot even though they're completely different person.
its only natural to compare things especially since Korra is the next avatar
Scrubalishes Unrealistic to expect those characters to be similar by this point of the series.
I don't expect them to be similar that's why we compare them to weigh the good and the bad in both as characters
are they not allowed to give their thoughts? She is literally the current avatar so y’all needs stop when someone throws the slightest criticism towards her. You bash the ATLA community when we acknowledge that the show is AMAZINGLY GOOD but still has flaws, but then the second someone comments on Korra y’all dead have the nerves to say, “OMG stop attacking her she had so much character development unlike aang lol”
I literally cried when she said “good to see you twinkle toes”
Am I the only one who is mad they don't remember Kuvira from last season?
They even talked about her in the season 3 finale and wrote her name down. What's the fucking point of discussing anything and not remember it the week after.
They mentioned it during their discussion after last week's episode.
Rick Jones Am i the only one that didn't ask for your opinion? No? Shut the fuck up and move on then.
She had a minor role, but literally in the last episode. How do you forget someone from an episode ago dumbass.
As I already said they did discuss her briefly last episode. They didn't actually forget her.
"Nice to see you again, twinkle toes". That line makes me cry everytime.
Huge shoutout for the call out of Joaquim Dos Santos. Please, watch Voltron Legendary Defender next. Written by Tim Hendricks and produced by Joaquim and Lauren Montgomery from LoK. The premise might seem ridiculous, but Studio Mir and their presence make it quite an awesome sci-fi, but in the vein of Avatar or Korra.
This was one of my favorite episodes in the entire Korra series.
I cried watching this episode... just hits home way too much.
I feel Eric always plays down Shanes ideas. Even though I feel Shane is the only one who thinks for himself. I feel Calvin cannot speak unless he's looking at Eric. And doesn't find anything funny unless Eric starts laughing. It's really getting more and more noticeable
Maybe it's because i came from Dragon Ball Abridged and that was the worse reactions looking back. Calvin litteraly agrees with everything Eric says and nothing that Shane says. Even though Shane knows more at times
Alrico98 Yeah Shane started hating on Azula because Eric did, and those 2 along with Aaron decided to hate Azula for the entire series. Calvin was the only one who didn't, because he had seen the show beforehand, and didn't let Eric influence his opinion of her.
Naaaaaah
And Aaron is just there for laughs. Lol
vaporchild
Tbh that's kinda the point of her character. I don't hate Azula, but sure I dislike her.
I dont know if someone else said it, but remember that in the final moments of the swamp episode a tree swats a bird seemingly on its own.
Toph must be one of my top 3 characters. Even in Korra she was great.
" Nice to see you again, twinkle toes" makes me cry everytime.
detective Aaron is doing good work predicting things.
Just yesterday, I saw the episode where avatar roku tells his story to aang. In that episode toph asks if people could stay friends longer than a single lifetime. Hearing her say "Nice to see you again twinkletoes" makes me tear up.
When Shane Mentioned Miyazaki films, I was like OMG BLIND WAVE & MIYAZAKI IS AMAZING.
I also said Toph was Yoda right away. And it feels even more like it in the next episode. Korra even reminds me of Dagobah Luke in that outfit.
I am not ashamed to admit that I bawled the first time I heard Toph say twinkle toes again
13:15 ... I NEVER EVEN REALIZED THAT! That is so cool.
I liked your discussion this week 😁👍🏼
That picture of Aang is the single best use of the art style of this show.
I always tear up at the end of this episode because it takes me back to Avatar when Toph says to Ang "do you really think friendships can last more than one lifetime?", and Ang says, "I don't see why not."
*MY FEELS*
From now on it just gets better and better.
"Nice to see you again twinkle toes"
The feels man!
I just cried! Remember ATLA:S03E06
Now... Check this out!! *foaming mouth guy goes crazy*
Aang has a vision of Toph in the swamp. Korra finds Toph in the swamp. It all comes together
calvin this is very important, not many younger people can rock those hats. You can, i like it, it works for you.
Thank you for reminding me that Aang has a vision of Toph in the Swamp. It's great
I don't get the "patient" thing, not for this.... She has PTSD what do you expect? She has grown, I don't think you guys have been paying attention to that and her growth if you feel that she reverts fro time to time. There's a drastic change in Korra and her personality in each season and she never truly reverts on them. Her personality is what I think you guys are mixing up with her growth. Cause at the end of the day she is a tomboy head strong women, she has that personality that is tough and rude and disrespectful if she gets ticked off but that's just Korra. In terms of her growth and understanding on what she has gone through and learned it's different. Her maturity is there, it's in the little things she have said and done that you see. Her impatience now is due to PTSD and fear as you have seen in the first two episodes. There's a lack of confidence in her which is something that's new for her given the way she got incapacitated by Zaheer and how the rest if the world continued without her giving her even more doubts about is she worthy of being the Avatar when she got bested by an air bender and various other people like the Air Nation and Kuvira have taken the Avatar's responsibility into their own hands and the world is fine. There's a sense of struggle and really deep PTSD that can only be overcomed if she truly has grown and matured throughout these past years... or she will never truly recover.
And yes the mercury in season 3 was to activate her avatar form cause the poison was gonna kill her and the Avatar state was what was keeping her alive, but the poison was still there which is why she wasn't fighting with her full power agaisnt Zaheer cause of the poison and yes it was killing her from the inside while still being in the Avatar state. Yes in the fight she was always in the Avatar state.
One thing about the Avatar state which is never explained in the show, but whenever an Avatar has mastered the Avatar state. When they go into the Avatar state and their eyes glow and revert back to their eyes not glowing, it means they are fully in control of the Avatar state. Oppose to when an Avatar goes Avatar state and has the glowing eyes always on, they are more in a beserk stage where they let loose without control.
You can see this in Kyoshi, Roku, and Aang in the flashbacks when he is older when he goes Avatar state and his eyes glow only initially when it activates and go back to his normal not glowing eyes. That's why you also see that illusion of Avatar Korra with the change being like a berserk even in the fighting style and look. It's not that she lost her Avatar state or her connection with Raava, it's that she lost control of it and she doesn't know how to get it back. But that's why she still is able to use all four elements to answer Aaron, Raava's spirit is still there. She just lost balance in herself and doesn't know how to regain it.
Spirits can't sense her but spirits are just spirits, not all spirits are super intelligent or understnad how it works. That doggo didn't sense Raava but he is just that, a little cute spirit Doggo. If she really wanted she could when gone deeper and find Iroh or another more experienced and elder spirit which could have explained to her better of what to do or why.
Korra: "Phantom Korra, you're so creepy, what are you doing in the shadows there?"
Phantom Korra: "SKEEEEEEEEEEEEVEing!"
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Storm Akira - Picked it back up
Sadek Miah Laura Lei already started actually. She has the first two episodes of Avatar up.
Cody Middleton Ahah yeh I forgot to change that.
Tophs return was one of the biggest highlights for this show
6:38 korra is also 20 something by this time unlike aang who was only 12
Hey, does anybody now the name of the remix the guys use as an outro song for their Avatar reactions? Or if you guys @BlindWave created it yourselves, is there any way you could upload a full version one day?
I loved it since ep one. :D
Here comes the surprise!
"Toph?"
Fuck....