they said tuning this engine was IMPOSSIBLE: not anymore!
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- the code has been cracked! The L5P Duramax can now be flash tuned right in your own driveway WITH THE TCM for 2020 and up Chevy and GMC L5P Duramax engines. Edge Products has somehow figured out a way to bypass the security inside the pcm to add some more power! Also, we continue fabrication on the front suspension of our turbo big block 4wd drag truck project.
Evo HT2 for 2017-19 L5P, 2020+ coming soon...
www.edgeproduc...
Honestly this is the content I like the most. Seeing you have setbacks here and there and then figuring out what you need to do to fix it. Makes it seem less like a TV show where most showed stuff just bolts right in. Keep up the great work.
I agree whole heartedly...! Most of us don't even have near the $$$$ to go at a build this hard... But no matter the money.. Setbacks and what you do with them is the knowledge everyone will treasure when life punts them directly in the nads
Nailed it.
Makes it more retable for a regular dude that likes to work on cars with similiar skills!
I would go for a 220V outlet or two. Well worth it. Opens up lots of good tools for you. Welders, plasma cutters, compressors, etc. It’s all better in 220V. Also, having a 220V outlet handy in the garage gives you a good way to power up the house if you lose utility power.
A decent air compressor is 110x2 LT! With welders and other high draw equipment it might be worthwhile to install a sub-panel in your garage for future circuit additions. This would also permit you to install an air conditioner between the studs through the wall at a height the neighbors won't complain. For extra stealth paint it to match the house.
Very cool news on the L5P! I sold my 2019 L5P in late 2021 but would be interested to see the Edge product in action. May have to convince my brother-in-law to tune his. 😂 Great episode as always!
And as for air compressors and what you do filming in the same space, you simply cannot beat California Air Tools compressors. Ultra Quiet and great quality. You can literally have a whisper conversation standing right next to it running.
I was taught that an oil bath compressor will always be more quiet and reliable than an oil-less. Also I'd build a small box around the current compressor to reduce noise and add an auxiliary tank for extra capacity. Here's a tip a lot of people don't know, you can pop the cover off the pressure switch and adjust the on/off pressure. I adjusted mine to 135psi off and 100psi on.
Yeah... If you wont have to move it.. Get the biggest oiled compressor that your 30 amp breaker will handle. There are tons of sound deadening enclosure videos on TH-cam. Along with desicant dryers. Hopefully LT gets into the type of money that means a shop in the future. For now do what's possible
Hey mate, some quick advice; first, get a band saw, there are some really good and cheap porta band style small systems with stands etc. Angle grinder consumables are expensive, but the worst part is that the grinding dust screws up everything else in your shop... The abrasive compounds will destroy wheel bearings, engines that are part through assembly, everything, including the power drill that you're shooting sparks onto at around the 10 minute mark, and the welding helmit next to it. If your shop is big enough or if you're planning on upsizing it's good to lay out for a "Clean" and a "dirty" area, where you separate everyhing else from grinding and welding, grinding is even bad for grinder electric motors ;)
Second, there are some excellent channels on welding, Weldingtipsandtricks is my favourite, some of his older MIG guides are amazing and super useful... Look for vee bevel welding instructions, it's counter intuitive, but if you're welding up structure, then having a good vee bevel through around 80% of the material depth and a consistent gap is the only way to make this stuff work really well... Cut some test coupons and have a practice on stuff that doesn't matter, that way you're not in the hot seat for critical stuff without solid practice behind you ;)
Anyway, I hope this doesn't sound critical because I love your work and I hope this helps ;)
Thank you. I will take the advice also. I do all of my metal cutting outside.
Not sure if you saw my comment on an earlier suspension fab video, but you can tell if you'll have bumpsteer at this stage if you move the hub assembly up and down while its all mocked up. If there is bumpsteer you can reduce it by shimming your ball joints higher/lower depending on where the pivot of the upper and lower control arms meet (instant center).
I run a 220v compressor. 20 gallon tank. Fits my needs.
About your welding..😂
It's the same as mine. I bought a Harbour freight green Unlimited welder for projects. Has TIG. MIG and stick.
I'm working on a canopy frame . My neighbor brought me some pipe. So I'm blessed.
But I do enjoy welding.
LT getting that sponsor love to hop up his daily, nice!
And it’s actually so much better for the environment. tuned vehicles run so much more cleaner and release way less emissions into the atmosphere when you think of a tuned vehicle think of green environmentally friendly!! it’s really cool
Discussion and some history here and there is what sets this show apart. Learning from every angle.
I like that you’re having someone helping you with recording.
LT, I've had my Husky air compressor for 15-20yrs. I've not had any problems with it, it a 60gal. I've sand blasted, runs all air tools it's done every thing I've need it to do! Home Depot has them, $899. 110v or 220v
The engineers at Edge are top notch! I miss working there with them. Its nice that I live so close that I can go back in and see my friends that are still there working hard producing top notch performance products!
Try adding just an extra tank for capacity on your air compressor makes a big difference and pretty cheap to do
Would be interesting to hear about high mileage reliability with these tuners. Especially with towing.
On GM trucks, the throttle response is not there like in the situation you had described. And it is quicker pulling into traffic in a hurry at 70% throttle then giving it the rest. In my 04 1500 it is the same thing. It has something to do with the “torque management” I guess we can say
I'd like to see gale banks do a review on that tuner
I run the Dewalt 200psi 25gallon I believe it is,120v and works great. I build transmissions and forever air checking,grinding and using a cookie cutter wheel and it holds up
I have an old central pneumatic from probably 10 years ago. It still runs with zero issues but even tho it's a 21 gallon tank with my die grinder it's out in less than a minute and then runs constantly and it's loud! I've been looking at the fortress units at harbor freight. They are quiet! Plus I'll convert my current air compressor into a tank only and feed the fortress into that tank, then have a 50+ gallon tank combined. Even though the fortress is quiet, I'm also going to put it all in the attic to save space and not hear it at all!
Looks like you have some friends at Holley. Congrats on getting your hands on this for 2020+
this is way cool! We have a 2017 duramax....We will have to get one of these Looks like you guys have had some snow..Great video! I have a Quincy in my shop,,,its a 220v Its awesome and it is quiet for its size...I think they make a 120v as well.
I’d still rather sending the ecm off to HP tuners to be able to get a full delete and 200+ hp tune to the tires. L5p’s on max effort tuning are seeing close to 600 to the wheel. Full delete is a far better option, but this works good for the average person.
Gimme a lighter weight, but still plenty capable '06 LBZ Duramax anyday! They're so sough-after for bulletproof pre-emissions reliability, great power (the #s seem more conservative compared to real-life performance on older models, new ones don't seem to match their gigantic numbers), and LBZ's potent tunability. Being highly desired, it's very difficult to find one for reasonable price, if at all. I'm still looking. I owned a tuned and slightly upgraded 2002 LB7 and even that thing was potent! Only about 500hp, 900-1000 torque, but the modded 1st gen would run circles around these new ones. The injectors had been replaced with LBZ style before I bought it, and it had bulletproof reliability with 200k and an EFI tune and your basic bolt-ons. I'm not dogging your L5P, but the new ones are very expensive for far less reliability, overkill in weight, and downright slow considering the impressive specs. The GMC looks slightly better than current Chevy, but that's like saying a black widow bite is more enjoyable than a rattlesnake bite! What the heck happened, GM!? Government or Mary Barra? Sorry I seemed negative, I'm really trying to like these (or ANYTHING newer than an '08), but can't!
I laugh at every lbz clueless owner how they are non emissions…. Hello they had a cat and egr 😂 what you mean is they are pre dpf filters and def injection. They are still emission’s equipped.
@@besstrokednova I should known there woulda been a keyboard warrior ready to pounce at my lack of a 10page explanation of the lbz being part emissions with cat and less intrusive EGR than the newer ones. Yes the LBZ has emissions! If it makes you feel fantastic, you're right, I'm 'clueless', have a good 'laugh'! I knew it had these emissions devices, but didn't want to write a book explaining that it has this and that, but not this, not this, not that etc. The LBZ lacks the fuel-sucking and troublesome DPF filter, and costly DEF crap. Very simple and cheap to 'fix' the emissions junk on the LBZ compared to the newer stuff. It was m more reliable, the computer didn't 'lock' you or of a good tune,etc. There's my 12-chapter book to appease the keyboard narcissists. Who am I kidding?, you'll be back! I don't care if you 'laugh at the clueless' idiot, it's not my mission in life to prove anything to anyone that needs an essay to 'prove' my knowledge. Most diesel people know what I (and others) mean about 'pre-super-duper, extra uber emissions' LBZ! I still prefer it over the new junk, so have a nice laugh 😂 while in the shop sorting out the Government piss canister, computer, limp mode goodness! Glad I could brighten your day with a laugh!
@@jeladsnikpoh1289 I’m good man just saying everyone acts like they are gold which they are a great truck and I had one with mods and loved it for 11 years. But don’t touch any of the newer trucks. Didn’t mean to rub you the wrong way just I see so much stuff just repeated that people really are clueless about.
I would like to see you do some testing of the different flash tunes... ideally dyno testing - alternatively acceleration testing. Keep up the great content!
Who gives AF what it does on the dyno...if a "lower power" tune accelerates faster, it's the better tune.
@@zacharymorris9917 A lower power tune that accelerates faster, would show more area under the curve - that's exactly why the dyno test would be interesting
@@markj6049 it's not that simple.
Long story short, a dyno is ABSOLUTELY NOT real world testing. Anyone who knows anything knows that a typical chassis dyno is a MARKETING tool. It is NOT a tuning tool.
@@zacharymorris9917 a chassis dyno (any dyno for that matter) can be manipulated to be used as a marketing tool - anything from the strapping, the tire pressures to the dyno weather station etc can be manipulated if you want to inflate the results. But it is definately a tuning tool! (And that said tuning and power runs are two very different things... there is much more to dyno tuning than just power runs).
If LT were to do back to back runs on a dyno, without changing anything on the dyno setup, it will very clearly show the difference between the two runs (given that the IAT's etc are the same - that's why any serious tester would average several runs for a comperison)
@@markj6049 you need to listen more and think you know something less.
Best air I have found in 120v is speed air. Also you might want to look into a portaband. They cut fast and don't leave your shop full of dust.
I think the phrase you were searching for is “a grinder and paint makes you the welder you ain’t”😂
Thanks for asking about the air compressor, I’ll be following all the comments. Folks recommending 220 volts, we don’t need 220v for welding, most tig work is fine with 110, other than maybe aluminum. Hopefully we can both upgrade our air systems from this videos info. 👍
Hopefully it won’t be long then until they complete a tuning process for the LM2 and LZ0 In-line 6 Duramax for the 1500’s
“A grinder and paint make me the welder I ain’t”.
California Air Tools make some nice quiet compressors. Decent price too. I have had mine a few years now and have no regrets.
Make sure your compressor takes oil and the best you can do on 110 is 5.5-6 cfm at 90 psi. Ir and sanborn both make decent ones. Hook the new one into the tank on your old one. I’d recommend 220 but I do sandblasting and that sucks air.
I'd like follow ups on this. Especially with no other supporting mods. Like how often it regenerates, and soot loading into the dpf with no additional air in or out.
it did a regen right before the tune was installed, and so far I am at 360 miles of mixed driving and is only at 60% soot load according to the banks iDash. i can provide a long term update in a while
Good video
There are no 110V air compressors that will do what you want.
Love the videos man. I know it's one more thing on top of all the work you already do, but you should really consider using a lapel mic. Especially for the times you have someone filming you. I know it adds on to the production end, but you've stepped your game up a lot recently. A lapel mic might just be the next level. Keep up the awesome work 💪
Thank you so much for that information I will get will edge tomorrow and find out about my truck. I have A 2019 3500HD . I did a gear swap and put 4:10's in it and now my cruise, will not work over 50 mph. Hopefully this will finally fix that.
California Airtools might have a good compressor option for ya!
thanks for sharing i am really excited to see the tuner and that they are getting it figured out. also loving the suspension fab!
hey thanks for watching it!
I wonder how much progress (if any at all) Edge Products is making on the LM2 (3.0L Dmax). Seeing this sort of, but cautiously gives me hope.
3.0L Duramax is in development
@Edge Products been waiting forever had my lm2 for 2 years ,let's goo!! Lol
If you ever see tug of war with stock trucks, the 2500 chevys always break the tierods. Not sure why, but it seems to be the weak link when 4 wheel drive is used on pavement. The tierod upgrade is a good investment!
It's the torque steer that breaks them
Put your air compressor outside on your fence line wherever your neighbors bedroom is. :) Just joking around, that would be devious.
I remember driving down that road in my dads LLY duramax when I was a lot smaller, if you go fast enough your stomach drops with all the ups and downs😂
Factory tunes are done with EPA regs a wide variety of environments and use conditions and the longevity of the vehicle in the warranty period in mind.
Retuning to suit special circumstances like racing can kill the engine and transmission and void the warranty so processed with caution.
Tuning for increased performance economy and even cleaner operation can be done especially if you live in a high altitude area or you’re constantly towing. Proper tuning for conditions outside the norm can vastly improve economy and vehicle longevity over a stock tune, but you’ve still trashed the warranty if they find out.
I think my 21 F250 would get you I’m still stock too can’t wait till Im tuned!! I already moves out stock
The transmissions that are in those trucks now was never designed by Allison. It was only licensed.
Ingersoll rand compressor at tsc is nice!!
Your could go for the kryptonite tie rods on there. They have a lot more products they’ve been adding over the years. Have all their steering stuff on my 2500hd no complaints.
Keep on keeping on brother looking good! Can't wait for april!
Air compressor... what's your budget. Quiet.. go Rotary or California air. In your case I would make a closet for the compressor. Add a inlet and outlet ( heat) vent. Send the noise to the sky attic might work.
Now they or someone needs to make the tunes so we can drop all the emissions BS!
I’m sure you watched banks, how to blow up an lp5. That really is a sweet motor. I would say the most important steps in his whole process was the upgraded cam and fueling. Didn’t seem like the benefits of a custom turbocharger would out weigh the benefits. The rest was the shit. I would settle for 900hp
add a remote air tank for extra air capacity
The belt drive 200psi from dewalt or similar are pretty good for 120v compressors. Other companies make similar also
You can talk bad about your mig welds, but honestly looks like it will hold just fine.
Does this affect your warranty? That is the only concern I have with reflashing a vehicle under warranty.
Warranty voided for certain. But he is likely beyond the warranty would be my guess.
Atomic for the win. Their shop truck is insane
they make some top notch stuff
I absolutely love watching your videos. I also like the way that we’re getting to see the real you. I’m guess you are getting your wife involved by letting her film. @Cleetus McFarland needs to have you the Freedom Factory
The best 120v air compressor is a Quincy 220v 60 gal.....
You Make Utah Proud
On air compressors:
I have heard good things about the "California air" brand air compressors. Supposedly they are built extremely quiet.
What does it do to your warranty??
believe I saw a moser sticker on the axle end on that rear? I love my moser m88 wavetrac setup in my foxbody
epa compliant like my banks tuner?? banks pedal box also a great add on for response
Awesome videos man👍 so this is for anyone that build engines. I took apart my first engine (185k mile 6.0 ls) I don't have a shop so everything is in my basement under bags and towels for protection. Im currently cleaning everything because is was dirty and had gunk on it. But after cleaning carefully im still scared there might be dust and particles inside the block/heads. How do I make sure im not putting crap through my engine during first start?
My 2000 chevy ls has horrible throttle response. The suspension matches. I call it the slushtruck.
So you have a tuner on it now, Will you delete it next? Heard that really helps those diesels perform and increases efficiency a lot.
Get this tunner now. Before the e-pa get ahold of this and shut it down.
Keep up the good work LT!!!!
Id love a video of your ideas on that truck/engine. The look has grown on me, but I always lean towards the 06/07 classic duramax.
Gonna clog up the EGR and emissions crap. If you really wanna get off the line, step on the brake and hold it at 1,100. Let off the brake and step on the fuel and you'll GO immediately...
Love my 10 speed tranny.
LT have you looked into the kryptonite inner and outer tie rod for that truck. Not trying to promote another channel on your channel but truckmaster sells them.
I’ve heard that it’s not good to do these cause all it’s going to do in the end is force regens more often. Which will block up everything faster. The only true way is to delete everything off
I have an emmissions intact 2014 LML with an Edge Evo CTS 3. Honestly the tunes that came with the CTS 3 are unusable. The power gains are great, but at the price of constant regens. I'm talking like 20-25grams of soot in a 10 mile trip across town 70% of that being highway on the highest tune. Even on economy thr particulate filter loads up twice as fast as stock. I've gotten Pcodes showing too little time between regens. As a monitor I love it.
Honestly besides the die grinder and airing up tires what else do you use that’s air powered? I’d consider just getting battery/electric tools and just keep the compressor you have for little things. You want to get into a bigger shop so why drop all the money on a bigger air compressor. And I like the one comment that mentioned using a band saw or porta band instead of a grinder for cutting, grinders are not the best tool for that job
it used to take 6 months for a tune to come out and now its a couple years...big deal because nobody is really tuning before their warranty is up anyways
A grinder and paint, makes me the welder I ain't.
This is the proverbial cat/mouse in infosec, there will always be a vulnerability in software/code, it's just a matter of a motivated individual(s) spending time to find it.
You want a 2 stage oiled compressor. OR if you really want to do it right I would look at the scroll ? unit from eastwood
Make sure you don’t take it inn for the recall that updates the Tcm & ecm
Would you recommend this over the banks derringer? Ive got an l5p as well
Invest in putting in a 220 outlet and or like the one feller said a sub panel.
EPA has entered the chat
BelAire makes a 60gallon 120v compressor Model: 2061V
I wonder if this will work with the L8t engine
Have abother 220 line ran. I have a #Eastwood scroll 30/60 compressor and it works well. Super quiet also
I would definitely love one of those Dmax trucks. However it's not in the budget and I would never actually use it for what it's truly intended for.
Will it work on the emissions complaint trucks??
how was the MPG after the tune?
I would have thought you would have used banks
Any recommendations for pure performance? I don't want anything loud. I like the stock sound but just want to upgrade my exhaust since I have the K&N 63 Series CAI.
2019 silverado 5.3
Thanks
In my opinion the 17-18 19 L5P with 6 spd and 3.73 will be next lbz. Hold it's value
agreed. plus, they are a great looking body style.
Imagine if they put this effort into making the truck better rather than trying to make it impossible to tune for DIY'ers
You installing the tuner will it void warranty?
Could you convert to a rack and pinion steering, less weight.
Very nice
Do you know if they have anything for the gas trucks?
I'm surprised Hptuners Hadn't cracked them sooner.
what happened to the copo truck?
Try an Ingersollrand compressor they were amazing at my old sho and pretty quiet
Ls fest registration is open. Time to get a 2016 camaro ss and do some bolt ons haha
the countdown is on!