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@@lazyking8445 That's very interesting, considering the Buu saga is what made most people have Gohan as not their favourite character anymore where he previously was.
Yeah. That kinda annoyed me, well moreso on the guys literal channel people only time-stamping the TFS parts. Like Mark's whole video wasn't fantastic. It lol felt kinda disrespectful. The channels that just uploaded the TFS parts was just whatever, I expected it but not THAT fast lol.
41:48 tbh the goku threatening shin but is probably the only bit where i do like the original more than the tfs version cause when goku raised that hand you could see the moment where (regardless of if he was gonna actually fire the ki blast or not) shin thought he was about to get smoked
I cant lie I hated the saiyaman shit as a kid just cause how goofy it is but the older I got the more it became awesome aha gotta be able to enjoy some dumb shit now and then not everything needs to be all edgy and shit
Honestly it was a terrible idea to begin with to make the character who doesn't like conflict to be the main character of a BATTLE series. That would be like making the main character of a show about ninjas like Naruto be a samurai or making the main character of a sports anime be someone who is too lazy to do sports. Unfortunately Gohan was doomed from the start, his passive and later lazy nature can't carry a show about fighting and constant self improvement. It becomes worse in Super since he becomes someone who relies entirely on his genetic advantage as a half Saiyan to become stronger instead of putting in a constant effort. Gohan essentially started doing what Vegeta did back in the Namek Saga: exploiting his genetics for power and unlike Vegeta, Gohan is rewarded for not working for his power. In all honesty I'm entirely convinced that if you took away Gohan's genetic advantage then he would honestly become as strong or weaker than the human characters and any amount of last minute training crap he tries to pull off will amount to less than nothing. If Goku hadn't come back when he did then the Earth would have been done for under Gohan's protection.
My theory why "Gohan as main character" didn't worked out is that well most of the audience joined into DB when there was a lot of fighting and fighting with a lot of strong ppl you know: tenkaichi budokai, sayians, frieza, androids, cell etc. and when gohan was taking over few first episodes were almost without any action at all, just catching up and other boring stuff... and on top of that they've made a point to prove that gohan neglected his training and now is weaker than Vegeta or his dead father... The final nail in the coffin was gohan's final fight with buu, they didn't even know how to finish that fight...
Which ever VA apart of TFS that does Vegeta in this part for his Final Attonment made his sacrifice within DBZA so much more impactful on me than Kai or the Original. Its like Vegeta is putting away every bit of his Env, Jealousy and Pride to do the right thing without other influencing factors for once. Went from Saiyan Prince Vegeta to Resident of Earth, Richest Man Alive, A husband to Bulma, and a father to Trunks, Vegeta.
it couldve worked (gohan taking over as mc) if toriyama used gohan as a way to explore different ways of using ki either developing more ki techniques catered to the rest of the z fighters or just more ki techniques in general imagine yamcha with a Ki bat im just saying
Love this my man. A word of advice though, maybe turn down the video's volume a bit or pause before you speak because I legit couldn't hear what you were saying most of the time!
When the supreme kai stated that buu was stronger than goku, like all that did was get goku excited to fight buu, cut the kai some slack he does not understand goku's unique nature as a saiyan, every saiyan has a unique nature that if trigered encourages them to fight, telling goku someone can put them hands on him?and him being able to fight that person alongside vegeta, thats all goku wants aint nobody gonna take that from him
My only issue with people saying Gohan's training would prevent the Buu saga: do we not understand math? The only argument you can have is that Gohan with training is strong enough to overpower the absorption alongside Supreme Kai's magic, in which case you got it. But if not... that level of energy revives Buu off rip. The lack of training cut his power nearly in half, and then we know that if he had trained, he would at least get somewhat stronger. Even if it were miniscule, Gohan absolutely gets that strong. And no, this doesn't mean he can defeat Buu, as the energy gathered for Buu isn't equal to Buu's full power. it actually means that the Ultimate Ritual likely gives Gohan a larger boost, as there's more potential to unlock in a stronger body. The biggest thing that people misinterpret (which is also due to how vague they were) is that they think potential in this show is a static measurement. If that were really true, then it goes down the rabid hole of statements that SOUND true but aren't. Example: future Gohan and present Gohan do not have the same level of potential, but it's very simple to argue against that. They ARE the same person, right? Right? No. Future Gohan would have more potential with two arms because he is older and has constantly gone through hardship. Scientifically, you can argue that it involves parts of your epigenetics or just DNA in general that change constantly as time goes on, but at some point science and dragon ball stop blending together.
Psalm 37 verse 7 Be still before the LORD and wait patiently for him; do not fret when people succeed in their ways, when they carry out their wicked schemes.
You i gotta love gohan for fumbling so hard that goku had no choice but to return to life to save everyone's ass for one last time. Gohan is not mc material
The Buu Saga gets a bad rap, but it was honestly fine. It fell victim to the #1 rule of nerd culture; the new thing always sucks and the old stuff was perfect.
“And even you….best buddy” gets me everytime
🗣🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Actual peak.
The Buu Saga is where Vegeta became my favorite character. His end still gives me chills to this day
Same fr it’s also the saga where Gohan became my favorite of all DBZ
@@lazyking8445 That's very interesting, considering the Buu saga is what made most people have Gohan as not their favourite character anymore where he previously was.
@@nivnavionexactly
Vegeta became GOATED to me on namek when he FINESSED the dragon balls from Frieza’s ship
@@victorampo1137real. Vegeta's intelligence is underrated
This is the closest we getting to the buu sage from tsf
technically… they were featured 🌚😂
Hating is an art form
W-Clickbait🤷🏽♂️
clickbaited me like crazy im not gonna cap
Pin za cumonte
DBZ is dope but OG dragon ball is still better
When my dawg said "best buddy" yeah I cried like a bitch🥺🤣
11:16 You dodge attacks.
You accept gifts.
😂😂😂
finally someone who "supports the official release" reactor instead of rushing to some 500 sub channel trying to react to only the tfs bits
Yeah. That kinda annoyed me, well moreso on the guys literal channel people only time-stamping the TFS parts. Like Mark's whole video wasn't fantastic. It lol felt kinda disrespectful. The channels that just uploaded the TFS parts was just whatever, I expected it but not THAT fast lol.
It's even funnier that TFS has uplaoded the whole buu Saga as one video with a couple extra scenes@@Al7249
41:48 tbh the goku threatening shin but is probably the only bit where i do like the original more than the tfs version cause when goku raised that hand you could see the moment where (regardless of if he was gonna actually fire the ki blast or not) shin thought he was about to get smoked
"Squinty eyes on me bubber yum. We playing my game now. First rule you die " vageta
Piccolo def said to Gohan: “You dodge attacks. You accept gifts”
Ngl that vegeta edit at 37:20 is clean crash out then prince🙏
Can’t believe Sage doesn’t know DBZ legend Sharpner! Gohan’s greatest rival.
One thing ive respected about tfs was that the few moments that truly...truly needed to be taken seriously were very much so. And done WELL
Just what I needed fr
Dabura was definitely asking for it
she a freaky frog too 😂😂😂
I cant lie I hated the saiyaman shit as a kid just cause how goofy it is but the older I got the more it became awesome aha gotta be able to enjoy some dumb shit now and then not everything needs to be all edgy and shit
Honestly it was a terrible idea to begin with to make the character who doesn't like conflict to be the main character of a BATTLE series. That would be like making the main character of a show about ninjas like Naruto be a samurai or making the main character of a sports anime be someone who is too lazy to do sports. Unfortunately Gohan was doomed from the start, his passive and later lazy nature can't carry a show about fighting and constant self improvement. It becomes worse in Super since he becomes someone who relies entirely on his genetic advantage as a half Saiyan to become stronger instead of putting in a constant effort.
Gohan essentially started doing what Vegeta did back in the Namek Saga: exploiting his genetics for power and unlike Vegeta, Gohan is rewarded for not working for his power. In all honesty I'm entirely convinced that if you took away Gohan's genetic advantage then he would honestly become as strong or weaker than the human characters and any amount of last minute training crap he tries to pull off will amount to less than nothing. If Goku hadn't come back when he did then the Earth would have been done for under Gohan's protection.
Gohan: You are what you eat. Frieza ain’t call me monkey for no reason!
My theory why "Gohan as main character" didn't worked out is that well most of the audience joined into DB when there was a lot of fighting and fighting with a lot of strong ppl you know: tenkaichi budokai, sayians, frieza, androids, cell etc. and when gohan was taking over few first episodes were almost without any action at all, just catching up and other boring stuff... and on top of that they've made a point to prove that gohan neglected his training and now is weaker than Vegeta or his dead father... The final nail in the coffin was gohan's final fight with buu, they didn't even know how to finish that fight...
God I hope this is a like building hype for an eventual Dragonball abridged comeback
The guys have been very clear that its never happening, they said it over and over again unfortunately
@@tdsm99we’ve heard that before with different creators for different series.
Let’s see if anything does or doesn’t happen.
The fact I jus realized them 3 mfs was Bibbadi Babadi Buu is killing my childhood 🤣🤣🤣
I actually loved Gohan's green Saiyaman gi. The helmet and cape were stupid, but he looked awesome when he was super saiyan without them on
i love that you reacting to one of my favs youtubers videos of my favorite anime it must be christmas 🥹🥹🥹🥹
Which ever VA apart of TFS that does Vegeta in this part for his Final Attonment made his sacrifice within DBZA so much more impactful on me than Kai or the Original. Its like Vegeta is putting away every bit of his Env, Jealousy and Pride to do the right thing without other influencing factors for once. Went from Saiyan Prince Vegeta to Resident of Earth, Richest Man Alive, A husband to Bulma, and a father to Trunks, Vegeta.
the dicksuck is crazy
it couldve worked (gohan taking over as mc) if toriyama used gohan as a way to explore different ways of using ki either developing more ki techniques catered to the rest of the z fighters or just more ki techniques in general imagine yamcha with a Ki bat im just saying
Gohan is the Pippen to Gokus Jordan so the start of the buu arch is like when Jordan went to baseball
Sage gotta get a voice role with TFS
Why? They basically done making content
@@richborn6700At least a cameo on the bits lol
Unless he can do a good villain then idk. Cause they actually ARE still making content. It's the DB shorts which honestly add to the overall show.
Love this my man. A word of advice though, maybe turn down the video's volume a bit or pause before you speak because I legit couldn't hear what you were saying most of the time!
Vegeta's Redemption
The day men cried
When the supreme kai stated that buu was stronger than goku, like all that did was get goku excited to fight buu, cut the kai some slack he does not understand goku's unique nature as a saiyan, every saiyan has a unique nature that if trigered encourages them to fight, telling goku someone can put them hands on him?and him being able to fight that person alongside vegeta, thats all goku wants aint nobody gonna take that from him
W Mark vid W sage reaction
VIDEL HAD MY FAVORITE FIGHT
My only issue with people saying Gohan's training would prevent the Buu saga: do we not understand math? The only argument you can have is that Gohan with training is strong enough to overpower the absorption alongside Supreme Kai's magic, in which case you got it. But if not... that level of energy revives Buu off rip. The lack of training cut his power nearly in half, and then we know that if he had trained, he would at least get somewhat stronger. Even if it were miniscule, Gohan absolutely gets that strong.
And no, this doesn't mean he can defeat Buu, as the energy gathered for Buu isn't equal to Buu's full power. it actually means that the Ultimate Ritual likely gives Gohan a larger boost, as there's more potential to unlock in a stronger body. The biggest thing that people misinterpret (which is also due to how vague they were) is that they think potential in this show is a static measurement. If that were really true, then it goes down the rabid hole of statements that SOUND true but aren't. Example: future Gohan and present Gohan do not have the same level of potential, but it's very simple to argue against that. They ARE the same person, right? Right? No. Future Gohan would have more potential with two arms because he is older and has constantly gone through hardship. Scientifically, you can argue that it involves parts of your epigenetics or just DNA in general that change constantly as time goes on, but at some point science and dragon ball stop blending together.
Sage is goated 😂😂😂❤❤❤
Peaceful dragon ball is peak wish they got to finish the tournament
“trunks sized hole in his chest” is foul 😭😭
Yk I love you THE great sayin mannnn💅🏾
Psalm 37 verse 7
Be still before the LORD and wait patiently for him; do not fret when people succeed in their ways, when they carry out their wicked schemes.
17:46 god damn why did that sound personal
we need a tfs bingewatch
Real ninja comment killed me
You i gotta love gohan for fumbling so hard that goku had no choice but to return to life to save everyone's ass for one last time. Gohan is not mc material
True 💀
Nah bro this shi was fire
ima start back watching anime again cause of tfs
where the hell y didnt he react to p2
spovavitch is the reason videl retired.
" nemekian get the katatat and my son outta here"
Is it going to be a reaction to it the actual teamfourstar
The Buu Saga gets a bad rap, but it was honestly fine. It fell victim to the #1 rule of nerd culture; the new thing always sucks and the old stuff was perfect.
I sometimes favor tfs’ dbz over the original
11:50 he just like me fr
TFS needs to do a filler episode
W Mark
Don't lie you are a super defender bruh
Ugh Great now i remember why i forgave Vegeta!😢😢😢😢
I might get hate, but I really don't like that you put "featuring TeamFourStar" in the title. The actual video featured them, yours doesn't.
Good to know, most of us aren’t babies who get over the clickbait in about 5 seconds
@Nestobesthoe I'm glad it didn't bother you. Personally it did me, so I didn't watch it. Different strokes.
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Jiiii
Good clickbait
TFS has sunk THIS low?
TFS is overrated asf
I dont like mark
If it’s in the manga it’s not filler