@@Mr.Saltwater Yea, I have to explain to people all the time that back then cars like this hardly anyone wanted, rich people certainly didn't want them, your average Joe didn't want a gas hog especially if it was 10+ years old and starting to rot out, so those things themselves would kept the prices down to where high school kids could buy them, and you wanna tear up a vehicle in life put it in the hands of a high school kid and watch it disintegrate before your eyes. They were just used car gas hogs back then that were only something special to gear heads, their new car smell was long gone by then.
It was 1985 and it was a worn out old car that by the standards of the day was junk. I'll bet you guys would have rather he took it to the junkyard and had it crushed, right? Don't be so blind.
I am a Mopar guy but I thoroughly enjoy your knowledge and thoroughly enjoy your content. We are opposite sides of the state but maybe one day well meet at an event and I can thank you in person. Thanks
You missed a huge clue... That car has the correct throttle arm for the cowl induction hood switch. It can clearly be seen @15:26. Less than 7000 Camaro's left the factory with cowl induction hoods, so that is a rare piece of the puzzle. The cowl induction relay is still attached to the firewall also.
Agreed and I thought there was around 113 made for 69 which you would have thought would have been the highest year of manufacture?, there were over 1000 over 3 years? I wonder if some were L88's if so how many?
No ZL1 they made 69 which was one type of Copo , but you had Yenko , his cars also were Copo,and Berger , Nickey and Baldwin Motion. Plus you had Copo Nova's and Chevelles
Really enjoy your videos and your knowledge about so many details. It's like you've been programmed. Your style of communication with people is very respectful no matter the situation, I've noticed a few videos were people have lots of vehicles and never completed a project they started over 15 years. It's like they continued buying rare vehicles and never will get any back on the road. They won't sell them either, but you respect them and continue on while asking great questions. You also pass along great information with respect to the vehicles. You were at a show with Cameros and Novas pointing out every detail on each vehicle that represents the year and style. Keep up the great work. Also, how did you learn so much about vehicles? Enjoy the journey and be safe!
Seems a real shame that someone that owned this for so long would let it get into such a sad state. The values of these cars and many others have been known for years. I personally bought a '70 LS 6 Chevelle in the summer of 1972 for $2400 from a used car lot. I owned it for only one year before it was stolen but I can assure you that if it had not been and I still had it that it would not be in the shape that this Camaro is. I still have the build sheet for this car and it looks like parchment today but is very legible. This makes me sad because I am old enough to remember these cars when they were new and to see the great ones become so bad is just awful. The L 72 was the LS 6 of the 427 world and in this light weight car would have been a real handful on the street especially with the tiny tires of the day. I know my LS 6 was the same but very impressive. Nothing beats a solid lifter Big Block Chevy. Great video by the way. Also I noticed that the tach had the 6500 RPM redline as all the solid lifter motors had.
I say the same thing every time I see a car in this shape. It WAS a rare car until the original drivetrain was lost to history. So many of these cars had their original engines blown up and replaced without a second thought. Nobody was thinking back then that the cars that nobody wanted anymore would eventually become worth 20-30 times what they sold for new(or more!)
@@chrisrichard2526 Unfortunately I did not. There were plenty of cars like it around, even LS6 cars but I was young and had other priorities come up. I certainly wish I had done so as I am sure many of us feel today. I did stay in the large block Chevrolet camp a little later in life when more funds were available.
I bought a totaled 1 in Jan '72. I pulled the entire drive train and the LS6 and Muncie went into a sweet '60 Impala, 2 door hardtop, triple black, originally a 283 3 on the tree. I had work done to the heads by a local builder of BBC for dirt tracks, stuck on a 396 air can, and sent alot of cry babies home. Even a '70 LS6 that drove 240 miles from the city to whup on the 396 that couldn't be beat. I only charged him-well actually his dad that drove the same distance-$400 to get his title back. Only chevy car I've ever owned, 1 of 2 cars I've kicked myself for selling instead of storing in the back of the farms semi shop.
That counter exchange block is definitely the next best thing to the original engine, and ups the value of the package a fair bit. Too bad on the rear end. Great find! Nice car Jay! I hope you get top dollar for it. It’s definitely worth a bit!
Because when you are out and about driving. People (others) don’t value or appreciate the car like you do. I had an 1100 mile 87 Grand National and I was a nervous wreck driving it when circulating fluids because it would attract attention everywhere I went. Everyone doesn’t appreciate or understand to stay away especially do not touch when you have a car like that.
Investment and/or Historical preservation. Given two cars identical in every way but mileage, the lower mileage car will be more desirable, hence worth more. Also, if every car were driven until the wheels fall off, we wouldn't get to see them decades later.
Parker, great job, and your knowledge of cars, especially 67-70 Chevys, is awesome. Lastly, your channel is enjoyable and keep up the great content. Having said that, go find some 1970-71 SS BB Chevelles and 1970-1972 BB SS Monte Carlos. Cheers
❤YEAH ITS RUFF AS GUTS AND BEEN un cared for for many years but thats life hey ,,this fella did not know what he had until just now and he went to the effort of putting a shed over it and then shifting it all to a new location allong with collecting spare parts for it over the years ,he bought it when it was 11 years old long after its origanal running gear was long gone and he loved it for many years until family ect took up his life ,,,good on him for saving a very rare car and maybe it would be in better condirion now if he had known what he had back in the 80's ,never the less it can be brought back to life to pass to the next generation and hopefully he gives the car to the person who wants to go all the way ,,a very exspensive build but if the xar was near free as long as restored it be worth doing for someone has the knowledge to do such a build .fantastic beautiful car and thankyou for holding onto it the best you could all these years Sir!!.
Checking the inside of the door jambs for the stamping pattern on the door itself could also tell you if they had ever been replaced, deck-lid the same way. Doubtful any stickers remain on the core support but the emissions decal could help point it to being a COPO (high hp note). The car also still has the correct throttle linkage lever for the cowl induction switch.
small town North Dakota 71/2 a guy had a 427 Camaro around town one summer no badgeing light brown . i would not know if it was COPO or just swapped.there was also a 440 superbird the the same summer these were local guys back from Vietnam.
There's so many missing OEM parts. It wold cost tens of thousands of dollars to replace everything missing, IF you could find them. It's so rusty, it would take months if not years to repair. I'd call this car a simi-COPO. I'd do my best to locate the original 427 block, it's still out there somewhere. In my opinion, this shell is worth $1,200 dollars. If he threw in the engines.
Love your videos and I learned some things but I think one of the most important things you missed was proving it was a 4-speed car and doing that by the speedo cable hole behind the distributor. Plus All trim tags were 12437 in 69 regardless of whether it was a 6 cylinder or V8 trim tags dates must be within 2 weeks of line production number on the vin which corresponds to a date
1. The tanks on the radiator have codes with 2 letters. radiator alone is worth a few thousand dollars. 2. The hoods are dated on the drivers side rear edge where you pointed out the little edge detail on the passenger side...date is there on the drivers side... date will be 1 or 2 numbers indicating the week of the year it was stamped. FOR EXAMPLE - customer has a 01B Yenko with a 53 on the hood edge... indicating 53 week of the year which would happen if December 31st fell on Monday there would be a start of a 53rd week. 3. X11 just means the car was equipped with exterior style trim. could be a SS350 style trim or a SSRS 350 or Style trim or RS base engine or a RS/style trim COPO. X11 instructions told NORWOOD to black out the rockers install wheel opening moldings add roof drip moldings. 4. All COPO camaros are not known, I found a previously unknown 1969 COPO at local cars and coffee in 2015. 5. It did not originally have spoilers, Any 1969 Camaro built in June would have D80 on the trim tag if it were originally equipped with spoilers. 6.All June Cars have 06A on the tags - I painted a COPO RS Vin# 665177 also 06A. 7.It's probably worth mid 30's. - A non numbers X11 COPO needed complete restoration but the car was solid sold for 50k in the last year.
gawd these cars are getting old. my dad is of the silent generation and bought a brand new 69 rs in early 70. He's 94 years old now. wow time flies. I remember when he brought 2 camaro's home to test drive. In those days you could take them home overnight and he picked me up from school in both cars. The first car he tried out was an SS camaro. I think it was a big block can't remember but i liked it better because it was loud lol. He didn't like that one for some reason. He decided on a horrible puke green with vinyl top rs 350 automatic. It was a prior year leftover from the back lot that nobody wanted. I remember going with my mother to the dealer to have the steel cables placed around the motor mounts due to a recall and seeing all the new camaro's and chevelles out front
I have a couple of baseball cards that are nearing 100k in value. I keep them in my bank's safety deposit box. Once a month i go and look at them. If I had a high value car, i would probably just drive it on overcast or sunny weekends. You've got to enjoy what you have now and then.
When I bought my 80 vette I didn’t think to even check the body tag ….. and when I did I found out it’s a spc paint code car meaning it is the only known 80 vette to come from factory in primer only. I contacted gm heritage and found yes it was delivered to Matt slapp chevy as a body in primer car Not really a “rare” car as it’s just an off paint code but an interesting find none the less
If it was delivered in primer to the dealer in was likely a special order car or a "body in white" car for race use.... That might be worth looking into.... Id be interested in the outcome....
You guys would know better than me but this car reminded me of the '69 ZL1 aluminum 427 - was that a COPO deal too? I know they only made a handful... Anyhow, what an amazing era to be able to order cars like this from the factory!
I like your knowledge of car's which is great. I have a question that no one I asked or have investigated on the web that can be answered. I worked on a 1978 z28 camaro that had a stainless steel or aluminum trim across the roof and was about 6 to 8 inches wide, that went from side to side. It was positioned behind the door and in front of the back window. I replaced the motor in 1985ish. Could you post a site or somewhere I can find the info on it. I believe it is a 1 of 1 car. I wonder if it was someone in corporate who had this one off. He was the second owner, and I knew the trim was on the car when he got it. It was a perfect fit to the car, so I know it wasn't a backyard guy that put it on. Thanks
Over half of the states in the late 60s-70s didn’t issue a title for cars.. this is known among collectors.. states like Maine, NY, Georgia all are this way
@@backyardbarnfinds I'm from New York State and we had no titles until 1973. It was so hard to sell my 67 GTO because nobody believed me when I told them there is no title only a registration.
Barn finds were common from 1978 to 1985 in my younger days I'm wondering all of the current barn finds are the exact same cars , parked and found again, because there seems to be way more rare cars being found than were actually produced . And it's kind of boring to me. I'd rather have one I can drive and enjoy.
Great info. Regarding the 512 block shouldn't you have checked if the 512 was a 2 or 4 bolt main. I think they came as both but surely the COPOs would have been only 4 bolts.
It doesn't have the original drivetrain in it. Okay, it is now an oversized $200 paperweight. The ONLY reason a car is worth ANYTHING is because of the Drivetrain it was originally built with unless it also has other specialty packages that can be from a Handling Package, ('63 ZR-1.) Or a Specialty Part option. ('63 NO3 - tank option.) Seventy-three of them were ordered and put on '63 ZR-1 "Tankers".
with 150,000 worth or parts and labor then a prayer to hit the 200k mark. Without a title and none of the original drivetrain, it's probably going to sit there and rot another 40 years. Too bad really..
No original engine, no original transmission, body gone to shit from sitting out in the weather. Just another beat up Camaro that would have been very valuable if it was cared for.
Ha, yeah, "just another Camaro"...it's in an unfortunate condition but you have no vision, and vision is what motivates and enriches the folks that do recognize potential.
Videos of 427 black you might get one out of a Chris-Craft Cruiser they ran a lot of Ford 427 to nose but if not I put a 427 crate motor in it at least 800 horsepower I have fun with the car while you're driving it😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🎉😂😂
Good day to you, it looks as if you know what you are talking about so this is why I want to ask this, my father has a 68 RS Camaro that he got back in 69 from a Dealer ship in Minnesota named Jay Kline Chev in Mpls MN. The Car has been in other colors from 69 we know what the outer paint was but was the fire wall Black on was its body color, My Dad does not know as well also under hood was this body color as well? I hope you can help me on this one.
Hard pass, without a numbers matching drivetrain, probably more to restore than it'll ever be worth. Doing a resto-mod?? You could...but any old '69 would do for that,don't need a COPO.
careful with the jack and don't sneeze, it is ready to break in half. How many original frame and structure pieces can still be changed and it still be an "original" car ?
It's not hard to 'find' the original drivetrain. All you need is the parts with a correct casting date. Then you get some number stamps, and your VIN magically appears on your 'original' drivetrain.
Everything I remember reading over the years said that the "CE" stamping for warranty replacement blocks stands for Chevrolet Engine, not Counter Exchange.
What? Blue and a Canadian car? What was that all about? It was 10 years old in the rot belt when he got it, it by all means could be sliced and diced. These cars rotted out in 3-4 years back then and its in a border state. Look at the purple craig jackson 71 hemi cuda convertible that was chopped on an indian reserve in BC, its just a cowl that was welded into a 70 cuda.
Has one of the rarest 69 Camaro's made. "Lets park it outside for years and let it rot..... "
no kidding
But - he's a "car guy".
But in 1980 it was just a car.
@@Mr.Saltwater
Yea, I have to explain to people all the time that back then cars like this hardly anyone wanted, rich people certainly didn't want them, your average Joe didn't want a gas hog especially if it was 10+ years old and starting to rot out, so those things themselves would kept the prices down to where high school kids could buy them, and you wanna tear up a vehicle in life put it in the hands of a high school kid and watch it disintegrate before your eyes.
They were just used car gas hogs back then that were only something special to gear heads, their new car smell was long gone by then.
It was 1985 and it was a worn out old car that by the standards of the day was junk. I'll bet you guys would have rather he took it to the junkyard and had it crushed, right? Don't be so blind.
I am a Mopar guy but I thoroughly enjoy your knowledge and thoroughly enjoy your content. We are opposite sides of the state but maybe one day well meet at an event and I can thank you in person. Thanks
I’m a Ford guy but I feel the same. These videos are so informative, keep the videos coming.
You missed a huge clue... That car has the correct throttle arm for the cowl induction hood switch. It can clearly be seen @15:26. Less than 7000 Camaro's left the factory with cowl induction hoods, so that is a rare piece of the puzzle. The cowl induction relay is still attached to the firewall also.
Good eye Speed.
you are very knowledgeable it was awesome to listen to all the information thank you
Very informative video. Thank you for taking the time to make and post.
Learn something every day. I thought the ZL-1 was the only COPO. I always enjoy your videos.
Agreed and I thought there was around 113 made for 69 which you would have thought would have been the highest year of manufacture?, there were over 1000 over 3 years? I wonder if some were L88's if so how many?
No ZL1 they made 69 which was one type of Copo , but you had Yenko , his cars also were Copo,and Berger , Nickey and Baldwin Motion. Plus you had Copo Nova's and Chevelles
Really enjoy your videos and your knowledge about so many details. It's like you've been programmed. Your style of communication with people is very respectful no matter the situation, I've noticed a few videos were people have lots of vehicles and never completed a project they started over 15 years. It's like they continued buying rare vehicles and never will get any back on the road. They won't sell them either, but you respect them and continue on while asking great questions. You also pass along great information with respect to the vehicles. You were at a show with Cameros and Novas pointing out every detail on each vehicle that represents the year and style. Keep up the great work. Also, how did you learn so much about vehicles? Enjoy the journey and be safe!
Seems a real shame that someone that owned this for so long would let it get into such a sad state. The values of these cars and many others have been known for years. I personally bought a '70 LS 6 Chevelle in the summer of 1972 for $2400 from a used car lot. I owned it for only one year before it was stolen but I can assure you that if it had not been and I still had it that it would not be in the shape that this Camaro is. I still have the build sheet for this car and it looks like parchment today but is very legible. This makes me sad because I am old enough to remember these cars when they were new and to see the great ones become so bad is just awful. The L 72 was the LS 6 of the 427 world and in this light weight car would have been a real handful on the street especially with the tiny tires of the day. I know my LS 6 was the same but very impressive. Nothing beats a solid lifter Big Block Chevy. Great video by the way. Also I noticed that the tach had the 6500 RPM redline as all the solid lifter motors had.
I say the same thing every time I see a car in this shape. It WAS a rare car until the original drivetrain was lost to history. So many of these cars had their original engines blown up and replaced without a second thought. Nobody was thinking back then that the cars that nobody wanted anymore would eventually become worth 20-30 times what they sold for new(or more!)
did you buy another one to replace it ?
@@chrisrichard2526 Unfortunately I did not. There were plenty of cars like it around, even LS6 cars but I was young and had other priorities come up. I certainly wish I had done so as I am sure many of us feel today. I did stay in the large block Chevrolet camp a little later in life when more funds were available.
I bought a totaled 1 in Jan '72. I pulled the entire drive train and the LS6 and Muncie went into a sweet '60 Impala, 2 door hardtop, triple black, originally a 283 3 on the tree. I had work done to the heads by a local builder of BBC for dirt tracks, stuck on a 396 air can, and sent alot of cry babies home. Even a '70 LS6 that drove 240 miles from the city to whup on the 396 that couldn't be beat. I only charged him-well actually his dad that drove the same distance-$400 to get his title back.
Only chevy car I've ever owned, 1 of 2 cars I've kicked myself for selling instead of storing in the back of the farms semi shop.
That counter exchange block is definitely the next best thing to the original engine, and ups the value of the package a fair bit. Too bad on the rear end. Great find! Nice car Jay! I hope you get top dollar for it. It’s definitely worth a bit!
Ditto! CE blocks are like a wild card in poker
I love camaros learned a lot, hope to see her restored !
Love your passion and knowledge for these cars
Parker is a walking encyclopedia....✌️
LOL.
Don't get me wrong it's an amazing machine but what's the point in owning a car you are too afraid to drive because is worth too much
Because when you are out and about driving. People (others) don’t value or appreciate the car like you do. I had an 1100 mile 87 Grand National and I was a nervous wreck driving it when circulating fluids because it would attract attention everywhere I went. Everyone doesn’t appreciate or understand to stay away especially do not touch when you have a car like that.
Investment and/or Historical preservation.
Given two cars identical in every way but mileage, the lower mileage car will be more desirable, hence worth more.
Also, if every car were driven until the wheels fall off, we wouldn't get to see them decades later.
Bragging rights
Build a fake one to drive
Yeah I don’t want a car that’s just sitting in a garage somewhere or in a museum…
Super rough but worth restoring
Awesome content once again Parker, and congratulations on the 100k + subscribers, here's to 100k more. 🎉
Parker, great job, and your knowledge of cars, especially 67-70 Chevys, is awesome. Lastly, your channel is enjoyable and keep up the great content. Having said that, go find some 1970-71 SS BB Chevelles and 1970-1972 BB SS Monte Carlos. Cheers
Great video, very interesting and informative....definitely a rare Camaro that should be restored and driven.
You have a special way to talk to people
Awesome video , your channel is amazing, I always learn something new
❤YEAH ITS RUFF AS GUTS AND BEEN un cared for for many years but thats life hey ,,this fella did not know what he had until just now and he went to the effort of putting a shed over it and then shifting it all to a new location allong with collecting spare parts for it over the years ,he bought it when it was 11 years old long after its origanal running gear was long gone and he loved it for many years until family ect took up his life ,,,good on him for saving a very rare car and maybe it would be in better condirion now if he had known what he had back in the 80's ,never the less it can be brought back to life to pass to the next generation and hopefully he gives the car to the person who wants to go all the way ,,a very exspensive build but if the xar was near free as long as restored it be worth doing for someone has the knowledge to do such a build .fantastic beautiful car and thankyou for holding onto it the best you could all these years Sir!!.
Awesome find. Keep it up you really know those Camaro. Getting my 69 ready for paint this winter.
Really enjoyed the education, thanks for sharing...Camaro's are my favorite, especially the 70 RS.
A Baldwin Motion 70 Camaro is my dream car.
Working on a few Baldwin cars.. stay tuned!
I have 1970 Z28 for sale, 4speed citrus green , solid project car.
@@joeybuono6093where are you located and what's asking price and condition? Thanks
They were actually 70 1/2 cars and the stage 3 Baldwin 454 is a dream car if only more than one existed....
@@CountdeRude
price is 25K. im in Pa. solid car.
Checking the inside of the door jambs for the stamping pattern on the door itself could also tell you if they had ever been replaced, deck-lid the same way. Doubtful any stickers remain on the core support but the emissions decal could help point it to being a COPO (high hp note). The car also still has the correct throttle linkage lever for the cowl induction switch.
Thanx for sharing your knowledge with us Parker, love the barn finds keep up the hunt for the holy grails.......🔥🔥🔥❤️👍🏽💯
Thanks man!
small town North Dakota 71/2 a guy had a 427 Camaro around town one summer no badgeing light brown . i would not know if it was COPO or just swapped.there was also a 440 superbird the the same summer these were local guys back from Vietnam.
Awesome video buddy.. you know your stuff about cars…
There's so many missing OEM parts. It wold cost tens of thousands of dollars to replace everything missing, IF you could find them. It's so rusty, it would take months if not years to repair.
I'd call this car a simi-COPO. I'd do my best to locate the original 427 block, it's still out there somewhere. In my opinion, this shell is worth $1,200 dollars. If he threw in the engines.
You couldn’t be more wrong.
15 grand probably. That block is more than $1200. Some rich cop will buy it.....
Parker your knowledge is amazing
Love your videos and I learned some things but I think one of the most important things you missed was proving it was a 4-speed car and doing that by the speedo cable hole behind the distributor. Plus All trim tags were 12437 in 69 regardless of whether it was a 6 cylinder or V8 trim tags dates must be within 2 weeks of line production number on the vin which corresponds to a date
Another great video! Thanks for sharing this! 👍👍👍
Yeah man no problem!
Wow! Way to be thorough! Thanks for sharing
1. The tanks on the radiator have codes with 2 letters. radiator alone is worth a few thousand dollars.
2. The hoods are dated on the drivers side rear edge where you pointed out the little edge detail on the passenger side...date is there on the drivers side... date will be 1 or 2 numbers indicating the week of the year it was stamped.
FOR EXAMPLE - customer has a 01B Yenko with a 53 on the hood edge... indicating 53 week of the year which would happen if December 31st fell on Monday there would be a start of a 53rd week.
3. X11 just means the car was equipped with exterior style trim. could be a SS350 style trim or a SSRS 350 or Style trim or RS base engine or a RS/style trim COPO. X11 instructions told NORWOOD to black out the rockers install wheel opening moldings add roof drip moldings.
4. All COPO camaros are not known, I found a previously unknown 1969 COPO at local cars and coffee in 2015.
5. It did not originally have spoilers, Any 1969 Camaro built in June would have D80 on the trim tag if it were originally equipped with spoilers.
6.All June Cars have 06A on the tags - I painted a COPO RS Vin# 665177 also 06A.
7.It's probably worth mid 30's. - A non numbers X11 COPO needed complete restoration but the car was solid sold for 50k in the last year.
Awesome find. Dude kept a good one. It'll buff out
It’ll be crossing the BJ Auction block a year from now, with all its original drive train intact and accounted for.
How much could it go for?
great video Parker, you dont see COPO's very often!
Great video! I learned a lot
Super cool video!! Definitely learned some new things.
Lots of good information but couldn't the VIN just be checked to the registry to verify?
yes, but then the video would only be 2 minutes long and no body would watch!
gawd these cars are getting old. my dad is of the silent generation and bought a brand new 69 rs in early 70. He's 94 years old now. wow time flies. I remember when he brought 2 camaro's home to test drive. In those days you could take them home overnight and he picked me up from school in both cars. The first car he tried out was an SS camaro. I think it was a big block can't remember but i liked it better because it was loud lol. He didn't like that one for some reason. He decided on a horrible puke green with vinyl top rs 350 automatic. It was a prior year leftover from the back lot that nobody wanted. I remember going with my mother to the dealer to have the steel cables placed around the motor mounts due to a recall and seeing all the new camaro's and chevelles out front
She's a sweet ride. Never seen a red copo
I have a couple of baseball cards that are nearing 100k in value. I keep them in my bank's safety deposit box. Once a month i go and look at them. If I had a high value car, i would probably just drive it on overcast or sunny weekends. You've got to enjoy what you have now and then.
good video, learned alot
Thanks man!
Solid video Parker
When I bought my 80 vette I didn’t think to even check the body tag ….. and when I did I found out it’s a spc paint code car meaning it is the only known 80 vette to come from factory in primer only. I contacted gm heritage and found yes it was delivered to Matt slapp chevy as a body in primer car Not really a “rare” car as it’s just an off paint code but an interesting find none the less
I had a 72 el Camino 350 car but it had a 12 bolt rear axle. Unusual for a small block car
@@boburwell9921 That's actually not unusual for a big block car... Especially back then...
If it was delivered in primer to the dealer in was likely a special order car or a "body in white" car for race use.... That might be worth looking into.... Id be interested in the outcome....
Was that dealership in Philadelphia
I love these guys that happen on to Detroit gold then store it in chicken coup with the proverbial “oh I’m going to restore it someday”… ya
Great video!
New to your channel, great breakdown.
You guys would know better than me but this car reminded me of the '69 ZL1 aluminum 427 - was that a COPO deal too? I know they only made a handful... Anyhow, what an amazing era to be able to order cars like this from the factory!
yes it is a copo car and only made 69 of them with
the zl1 all aluminum 427
The cowl tag should have a paint code number right above the X-code number telling you the color of the car it came with from the factory .
Awesome !!!! Love these videos
Interesting seeing '68 door trim on that blue '69...
Good call I saw that too
Wish I was a kid again, but I still have my school car 70ss nova.
A follow-up vidideo on thos car would be great
The blue one is worth more to me.
I agree as the butternut yellow on a 69 is very rare
All important for confirmation of COPO is the BE code rear end. Did you get to it?
Very cool
Interesting information.
I like your knowledge of car's which is great. I have a question that no one I asked or have investigated on the web that can be answered. I worked on a 1978 z28 camaro that had a stainless steel or aluminum trim across the roof and was about 6 to 8 inches wide, that went from side to side. It was positioned behind the door and in front of the back window. I replaced the motor in 1985ish. Could you post a site or somewhere I can find the info on it. I believe it is a 1 of 1 car. I wonder if it was someone in corporate who had this one off. He was the second owner, and I knew the trim was on the car when he got it. It was a perfect fit to the car, so I know it wasn't a backyard guy that put it on. Thanks
Looks like sigle exhuast split into duals at the muffler. Just like the 3rd gens.
Kudos to revel model cars for making a 69 nova copo
And a 69 camaro zl1 copo
How do you have a registration and not a title?
This is why we have trust issues.
Over half of the states in the late 60s-70s didn’t issue a title for cars.. this is known among collectors.. states like Maine, NY, Georgia all are this way
@@backyardbarnfinds I'm from New York State and we had no titles until 1973. It was so hard to sell my 67 GTO because nobody believed me when I told them there is no title only a registration.
Man I'd love to have those
He said it had a 402 big block in it… why has it got small block motor mounts
Small block when he bought it then a 402 went in… that’s how I heard it anyway
Barn finds were common from 1978 to 1985 in my younger days
I'm wondering all of the current barn finds are the exact same cars , parked and found again, because there seems to be way more rare cars being found than were actually produced .
And it's kind of boring to me.
I'd rather have one I can drive and enjoy.
Could be same cars many not moved for years
So many experts commenting here.
This car has never really been apart as he is standing inside the engine bay. 😅
I get what he means but it still sounds funny.
Great info. Regarding the 512 block shouldn't you have checked if the 512 was a 2 or 4 bolt main. I think they came as both but surely the COPOs would have been only 4 bolts.
It's a 4 bolt. You can see it at 30:30 and 32:26.
@@racerdocTrue but somewhat irrelevant as that it not the original block. For trying to be as close as possible it then makes sense.
@@BigKidToyBox Sure. I was just answering his question
Well if we know all the vin's for the copo's is it correct?
It doesn't have the original drivetrain in it. Okay, it is now an oversized $200 paperweight. The ONLY reason a car is worth ANYTHING is because of the Drivetrain it was originally built with unless it also has other specialty packages that can be from a Handling Package, ('63 ZR-1.) Or a Specialty Part option. ('63 NO3 - tank option.) Seventy-three of them were ordered and put on '63 ZR-1 "Tankers".
This stripe delete car was called a devionational order common on all copo Camaros and Chevelle
A basket case, that is missing its entire drivetrain. Worth what someone would be willing to pay for it.
Are you available for other appraisals too?
Find similar drivetrain parts with the correct casting date and stamp the correct numbers. People do it every day.
@@jamessharp9790that’s great 😂😂😂
They all are at this point Bob, this isnt a 2010 camaro bro. You can restore a 69 camaro from the walmart parts dept
It's a pile of garbage in a barn. This guy fucked it up in 5 years.
The documentation of this car may make it quite valuable since these are now fetching about $200,000.
with 150,000 worth or parts and labor then a prayer to hit the 200k mark. Without a title and none of the original drivetrain, it's probably going to sit there and rot another 40 years. Too bad really..
My L78 came from Maine
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It's kinda odd that the body bolts aren't in place. You could see it when the car was jacked up.
No original engine, no original transmission, body gone to shit from sitting out in the weather. Just another beat up Camaro that would have been very valuable if it was cared for.
Ha, yeah, "just another Camaro"...it's in an unfortunate condition but you have no vision, and vision is what motivates and enriches the folks that do recognize potential.
Videos of 427 black you might get one out of a Chris-Craft Cruiser they ran a lot of Ford 427 to nose but if not I put a 427 crate motor in it at least 800 horsepower I have fun with the car while you're driving it😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🎉😂😂
So aside from nearly everything on the car having been replaced it is still at the very least it is a ‘69 Camaro.
Good day to you, it looks as if you know what you are talking about so this is why I want to ask this, my father has a 68 RS Camaro that he got back in 69 from a Dealer ship in Minnesota named Jay Kline Chev in Mpls MN. The Car has been in other colors from 69 we know what the outer paint was but was the fire wall Black on was its body color, My Dad does not know as well also under hood was this body color as well? I hope you can help me on this one.
Is the blue car next to the COPO car a driver or parts car or??? It looks fairly solid and complete.
Hard pass, without a numbers matching drivetrain, probably more to restore than it'll ever be worth. Doing a resto-mod?? You could...but any old '69 would do for that,don't need a COPO.
lmfao he definitely thought you were going to buy it
Yeah it’s almost better to build a clone. Something you can drive. But classic prices have gone full retard, so even a base model is costly.
9:27 "if you look at the rockers there's no holes" two holes right by his hand. 😊
Copo- Central Office Production Order
The restoration cost would still make it profitable to build and sell
I'm in L O V E! Awesome!
careful with the jack and don't sneeze, it is ready to break in half. How many original frame and structure pieces can still be changed and it still be an "original" car ?
Lets it sit out and rust away for all that damn time and now he’s got it inside?like after it’s 75%rust now lol okay??👌
I just want to know how the heck you guys keep finding these things? It’s like finding big foot.
Which number is this one out of the 1015 made?
What's the price? has it sold yet? just done a 69 Z28 in same condition
Sooo,its missing the original drive train,which is what MAKES it a high dollar COPO?Then its a 69 Camaro shell?
The cars DNA points to it being a COPO. So it’s not “just a shell”.
It's not hard to 'find' the original drivetrain. All you need is the parts with a correct casting date. Then you get some number stamps, and your VIN magically appears on your 'original' drivetrain.
@@kennydemartini2169 magically like for a fee right? hehe
Me too, 1980. But I had a '69 Mustang not as cool .
How much parker ? Is there a chance of a package deal for both 69's and all parts?
He got a book on camaros at the library and thinks he's an aficionado on cars
Jay where are you located in Pa?
A real COPO would be a great project car for someone who can do it.
Everything I remember reading over the years said that the "CE" stamping for warranty replacement blocks stands for Chevrolet Engine, not Counter Exchange.
What? Blue and a Canadian car? What was that all about? It was 10 years old in the rot belt when he got it, it by all means could be sliced and diced. These cars rotted out in 3-4 years back then and its in a border state. Look at the purple craig jackson 71 hemi cuda convertible that was chopped on an indian reserve in BC, its just a cowl that was welded into a 70 cuda.