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You forgot about the 365 HP dale 1970 1/2 RS camaro that I built with 4-11 rear trans am swaybars and 13 inch wide tires in Daytona yellow. It's a great car... dale.
u should read up on the mark 4 series which came out in 1970 it even says they changed the angle of pistons and pushrods which means a all new block even my 67 yenko is consider a aftermarket car not factory even the 70 chevelle that got the ls block is a aftermarket not factory they pulled the 454 bbc and put a ls 6 454 in it my 67 came with a 396 factory and yenko dealer ship put the 427 in it which means it is a aftermarket car
BUT for me the seats factory recline too much for me in that whole generation. I have to sit up straight or it kills my back. IF you put the seat straight up then my head is in the hoodlining. So give me a 70 Mustang,, for me far more comfortable or even a Mopar
Me as well, mainly due to nostalgia, and my father having rebuilt and owned one when I was a young teenager. I remember driving I back from the shed when he got it running sitting on a milk crate.
1st gen is my favorite... Back in the day there were several very quick ones around my area (lower NY State) running 327's. Those engines were a dime a dozen, so if you blew one up, you could easily find a replacement. A few guys swapped in 350's but kept the air cleaner marked with the 327 badge to create a low cost sleeper ☺
The 427 was a much better engine than the 454. The L-88 & ZL-1 put out up to 585 HP right from the factory despite being rated at only 430 HP. Thanks insurance companies.
I had a boss, named Dave, who owned a burgandy IROC Z. Great guy. He would only pull it out on nice days. I don't know how rare the last gen LT1 Camaros are, but I'd love to own one of those❤
@@AnnatarTheMaiaThe 5th gen's just don't have the same identity. I agree with the OP. The 1st gen's are timeless classics, and the 4.5 gens with the LS1 will be timeless classics.
@@LynxStarAuto now you're talking nonsense: the 5th gen has multiple cues and nods to the first generation. In fact, it looks like the first generation would look if it were made in the 21st century. And if you want to talk cool, the 5th generation Camaro ZL1 is the spiritual successor to the Last V8 Interceptor from "Mad Max", as it was engineered by GM Holden of Australia. It's what Max Rockatansky would be driving today if there was a thermonuclear war.
@@AnnatarTheMaiabut that's the problem with the fifth and sixth generation Camaro. Sure they are the ultimate performance Camaros but not because of design but just because they are the newest Camaros and have access to the latest performance technology. And that retro styling is actually what hinders them from being even better than what they could be if they were built from more of an evolutionary standpoint rather than trying to be retro cool. In the first four generations, each generation was an improvement over the previous . But in the 5th and 6th generation they were more focused on styling which was not really advantageous for the best performance and the only reason they performed so well was just because they are newer cars and have access to the latest chassis suspension engine transmission and Brake performance technology but the actual car body design itself was a hinder towards performance.
My 2001 325-HP. 6-spd - WS6 Trans Am Brand New , beat a LT4 Corvette on the freeway, 3-5 gear, my car only had 200 miles on it, and walk that 340 HP LT4. then later added full exhaust , tune,& 373 gears, From a roll it would beat any car that ran low 12’s in a 1/4 mile . Put a smile on my face every time I would shift those gears . 😅😅
the 302 DZ motor was every inch a valid competitor to the BOSS 302... Thank the automotive gods we have both so we can endlessly argue which is best...
The D EATH of the Camaro is NOTHING SHORT of GM aka M Barra (2013) INCOMPETENCE. When the Gen5 Camaro Relaunched in 2010 - it OUTSOLD the Mustang and Challenger for the first 5 years, 2010.11.12.13.14. Coincidence that Barra became CEO and Camaro DECLINED continually after her 1st year? I think NOT. Bringing back the 'Maro as an EV will be a DISASTER. NO REASON why you can NOT have a RENAISSANCE, the Technology is there and you can squarely go after Entry Porsches and M series BMWs.
I'm surprised the 1970 LS6 Camaro didn't make the list. The LS6 was originally on the RPO list for the 70 Camaro, but GM removed the RPO pretty early on. But one was ordered, built and sold before the RPO was removed from the option sheet. It still exists today, it's a silver SS.
I have a 87 IROCZ convertible black with gold trim but my first Camaro was a 69 pace car and I was hooked on Camaros I've had about 10 Camaros since I loved them all
I had the 1990 Z with that tune port fuel injection. The nice blue Z28 IROC Chevy 350. Dual exhaust and possy rear end. Put a chip in it was pushing 400 HRP. Put 360,000 miles on it sold it to my friend yrs back. And Rumor has it he still has it pushing 900,000 miles… loved that ride
The one thing the oil crisis and smog control did was force the manufacturers to learn how to make horsepower while restricted. Now imagine how much power a modern car could make if they let them be gross polluters like in the 60’s.
My first cousin bought the 2nd Z28 sold in Ga in 1967. He was drafted to Vietnam in 1968, and his mother sold it while he was gone, because she was sure he would kill himself in it if he ever made it home. He did, and he never forgave her, and I took him with me when I turned 17 and found my Camaro, a 1970 1/2. He was proud for me, and I had to let him drive it home from the person I bought it from. Marriage and family came along later in life, and I had to sell my baby too, but I'll always have the great memories of both of them.
It's a very lovely luxury muscle car, and it's a serious improvement from any stock car from Detroit. The only cars that could eclipse it are some of the later restomods of classic '60s and early '70s American muscle cars. The level of technical sophistication, craftsmanship, and design put into some modern restomods is just amazing.
Amityville Chevrolet who supplied Joel at Motion MANY LS-7’s. We used to put them in Racing Boats. Joel had two in COMOTION his boat. I changed a L88 cylinder head on it. Amity adversed the seven as: Horsepower to burn 660hp LS7! Miss you Steve!
A guy in my grandfathers car club had a 70 1/2 rs/ss 396. Gold car, I can’t remember but I think it was automatic. He bought it from the original owner who bought it as a graduation gift for his daughter. I can’t remember why but she wanted something else. The car was stored and then bought by this man in Avon Park Florida. GM often asked him to purchase the car since it has such low miles. They wanted to add it to the museum. They even did small and large work to the car to keep it on the road. He told me they picked it up and freshened the engine. Man I wish I remembered his name. My grandfather would be 75 now and this guy was slightly older. Hopefully his kids or someone picked it up or sold it to GM. Awesome car.
I acquired a 69 RS-ss. It had been flooded, the small block completely smashed. I gave it to a friend he went through it put a 396 hooked up to the stock rock crusher.
The anniversary LT4 Camaro may have been a truly cool piece of "American" engineering, but it was actually a Canadian car. That generation of Camaro was built in Sainte-Thérèse, north of Montreal and shipped to SLP Engineering's plant in Lachine, another Montreal suburb, for transformation into an LT4 anniversary model.
Worked with a guy in the late 70s who had a S28 Camaro, believe he said it was a 75 model. Had a 350-4speed and much of the Z28 options except for the rear deck spoiler. According to him, for that year we couldn’t get a Z in Canada. Now, I was about 13 years old then, so it might have been BS on his part, but yet, I can’t recall coming across a 75 at any shows over the years.
Excellent video!! So many videos in this format, which look like this one, are full of crap, but this one is not!👍 My friend has an '81 Yenko TurboZ, a silver Stage One. And when I was two or three, I got to ride in my Uncle's new '68 Camaro SS396, but I'm pretty sure that his wasn't an L78 - it was a 4 speed though. White with the black stripe over the header panel, and back across the doors, and five-hole Rally Wheels.
Everyone always gets all excited about the big motored expensive low number build cars. Those are cool for the once over glance. But the ones I like are the more generic affordable models. Those were easy to find, easy to purchase and for the most part in many ways were the best looking ones. Ironically, they were so common and plentiful, very few have survived. It’s often easier to find the rare high dollar limited volume cars today than one of those. That’s why the James Rockford Firebird esprit is one of my favorite all time F body cars. It looked good then, still does today.
Stage 2 Yenko 2nd gens super cool! 97 SLP SS was a huge deal back then too. low 13s real cold air intake. Good stuff...LT4 was GMs farewell to the Gen 1 sbc
of all my muscle cars i miss most, is my 87 IROC. not as fast as my old 02 SS by a long shot, but the s3xy styling can't be denied! bought one new back then in dark red metallic, with the gold trimmed wheels. had some good times in that old IROC. went to many a rock concerts in that car. spent endless summers at the lake with it. everyone wanted to ride in it.. just nothing but great memories. and funny enough, the Silkwood kids lived right up the street from me where i used to live in S OK. they had just got their settlement from the Kerr McGee thing, and the son got a new Grand National, and his sister got a Trans Am. so we were kind of the bad boys on the block, or street! lolz.. the 80s were great, but wouldn't of been the same without those specific muscle cars! ☮
Local Chevy dealer back then made the news and Paper Every single IROC had its wheels stolen overnight....many were stolen off lots back then. Those were instant classics back then. If you had a Z or a 5.0 stang you were the cheez back then ll
also had an 87 iroc...........ive owned chevelles,6 other camaros,a few trans ams and i loved that iroc.i also had a chance to drive a lb9(305) 5 speed,high ratio rear formula(i think a 91-92) and that would be my first choice,quick,light,nimble,dead sexy.or of course a firehawk
Very informative video. I have a 79' Camaro that's white it had a 6 cylinder orig that was swapped long ago with a rebuilt 307 cu. A grocery getter car for my relative when bought new, very low miles now. This was a sport model with 14 "ralleys and plain body. Its interior is Baby Blue is that a rare option? Its getting a 76' built z28 350 installed soon . I need its 307 for a K5 75' blazer I have to make right.
I'm pretty sure my neighbor down the road has one of those iroc 1LE.. it's literally sinking into the ground but in an old barn. He said a long time ago it was a rare car for racing, has the smaller 305.. it's appearance looked like a base model, nothing special. It's been a few years since that encounter. What would it be worth in very rough condition?
I feel more videos should mention the switch from gross to net horsepower in 1972. Yes, of course power dropped in the 70's, but it was not as drastic as it looked on paper.
I own a Red 91’ 1LE 5 speed, LB9(305) car. Bought it in 93’. I have my GM Vintage documents for it right now so for your info: the 305 made 230hp and the 350 (L98) made 245hp. Says here that 1570 Z28s were imported to Canada. Of those, 134 were 1LEs. Mine is also an(R7U) car. That’s the RPO for Canadian Players Car. Mine was raced by Ken Wilden in the GMmotorsport Players Challenge and was the proctor&gamble #17 Tide/Bounce car. Ron &Rob Fellows started out in that series. Also have an 02’ Z28 with 45 thousand original km. Borla & Vortech equipped. 520hp at wheels. I’ve been into F bodies since I was a tot. When I was a baby I rode around in dads 69’ bird. Learned to drive in his 86’ iroc. 🙄
It’s worth noting that GM, as well as some other manufacturers, were sued during the muscle car days. This was because they were being WAY underrated on their horsepower and torque output. If they said it put out 400, it was more like 450 plus, potentially plus a lot more. This was done to get the insurance cost on muscle cars to be lower. This made it more affordable for kids to buy and own the cars. It’s a well known and documented fact.
I love the color and the car 😢😮😊🎉❤ Just looking at it makes me drool all over myself I hope I can have it soon as it's done Merry Christmas and New Years you all deserve some time off to me and you're families 💋💘
My Camaro ownership: 69 350 4 speed 69 350 3 speed automatic 68 350 3 speed automatic no a/c (Originally 327 w/factory a/c) 2010 RS 2LT My 5th and current Camaro also a 2010 RS 2LT, love(d) them all!
Then you are missing out, because the 5th generation, TR6060 6-speed ZL1 is an excellent track weapon to put even a Porsche GT2 RS in his place on the race track, and I quote an exasperated GT2 RS owner after a few rounds on the track: "but I'm 450 kg lighter!" "Good for you."
@@my1vice sure, but this ain't about cool, it's about putting mechanically disinclined idiots and metrosexuals with Ferraris, McLarens, Porsches and all that automatic transmission garbage in their place on the race track.
Wrong. The LS7 was slated for Corvette production and was not a replacement for the LS6. Again wrong on the statement that " there were only a few left around". You could buy the LS7 Crate CE over the counter until the late 80s. One made it into a factory 1970 Chevelle SS as a press car.
And I still think you failed to mention the auto form 2 seat roasters of the third generation F body from 83 to 86 they made around 1000 to 1100 of them and they were GM approved because the dealer had to send them a brand new car to get the conversion but it was a $6000 options on a $14,000 car❤❤
Many years ago i had a 68 Camaro . I built a 302 and added a 4 speed ..it was a fun car . Should have kept it . Later on i bought a 80 z 28 a new car from chev . I found a article that stated chev had built a proto engine car i think it was called wild child ..So i tried to copy the build and added water meth injection.. i also had a 68 Camaro that i built a 302 , 4 speed ..it was a lot more fun to drive than the modified 80 z28 .
I have a 70 SS 396 Camaro that Was purchased from a friend (who bought it New in July of 1970) in 1977 missing the engine. I purchased a wrecked 70 SS 396 Chevelle in 79 and put the engine & tranny in my Camaro. It's been in storage 3 times currently since 2015
I owned a 67' Camaro that was only powered with a 250ci In-Line 6 cylinder. I always wanted a 327ci but the 6 was pretty quick for what it was. I wish I still had that car.
The strike has nothing to do with the Camaro coming out late it was tooling issues with the quarter panels on the new design all other 1970 Chevrolets came out as normal in fall of 69
The 1967 to 1969 Camaro Z-28 was a 327 block using a 283 crank. The 1968 model I know about also had factory installed headers and chambered exhaust that used no mufflers. The engine balanced and blueprinted and the chambered exhaust taken from a factory Corvette exhaust was street legal and raced in the stock factory class quarter mile.
Called a DZ-302 the crank was same stroke as a 283 but it was forged steel instead of standard cast iron one from a 283. They had camel hump heads with the 2.02, 1.60 valves. Also had 800 cfm Holley and 11.0:1 compression ratio. The headers were never factory installed and were an option that came in the trunk the buyer had to install extremely rare a dealer may do it but that was like a buddy’s only thing. As far as the No muffler chambered exhaust that wasn’t a thing they all came with mufflers from factory have to remember 68 was first year of new smog regulation bs. Oh and all engines are balanced and blueprinted if they were not balanced they wouldn’t run and blueprinting just means someone wrote it down😂
Hi, I was a backyard mechanic in the late 70's and into the 80's. I worked on many cars. I worked with a guy that wanted a motor for his 78 z28 camaro. I changed it for him. The car was different because it had a stainless steal or aluminum trim that was roughly 6 to 8 inches wide, it was located in front of the back window and went from drivers side to passenger side. I've never seen another one with this. I'm sure it was from factory because it was a perfect fit. Would you know where I could find out more info on it. I'm sure it was one of one car.
My first ride in a Camaro was in my 16 year old cousin's 1967 plain Jane green interior, and exterior color 307 , Saginaw 3 speed in the floor box stock Comaro. That was in 1974, and I was about 8 years old.! I thought it was a Hot Rod race car.! It was just a cheap, inexpensive old used car then. Flawless body, paint, and interior.!! It even had 307 emblems on the front fenders.! He sold it when he got his second car, a Trans Am.🤭😉
So General *Motors* is in the business of electric motors? Ford Motor Company? A motor mount is only for electric motors? A motocross is only for electric motorcycles? Are motorcycles electric only?
Like the blue Camaro you had it had a name badge on it I remember when you bought it into harbour city cycles your blue Camaro now is quite priceless it was the one the factory would allow replacement parts the now selling for $700,000 USA your particular car had a name badge on it on the grill it started with b and that's what we're going on about they are priceless on today's market remember the front shape of your blue Camaro it's amazing how much they are so cherished on today's market 700 American be looking at 1.5 million for the condition your car was in people are grabbing them and restoring them I wonder where that ever went to??
The GMMG ZL1 4th gen is definitely a badass machine. But it's not the most badass production 4th gen Camero. The 2002 Berger Supercar Dick Harrell Edition Camaro also by GMMG was available in 5 phases from the 400hp phase 1 to the absolutely crazy phase 5 at 670 hp! Which is pretty damn potent by today's standards, let alone a car produced 22 years ago. It's also more scarce than the 4th gen ZL1 with a production run of only 30 units plus 2 prototype cars.
I owned a 1986 IROCZ 350/350 SS I had to special order the 350 back in 1986 being that 305 V8 were the normal engine back then it had a 6 speed Borg Warner six speed Black with Gold stripes
There were only 50 IROCs made in 1986 with the 350. It was a very limited availability vehicle. Not sure about the 6 speed from the factory back then. The 5 speed was not yet strong enough to handle the power of the 350. Would love to see the build sheet for the car you described.
He made an error when he said that the 1970 Camaro. SS. L78. Was a 396 But in actuality, it was a 402. Which replace the 396 from previous years? And the 454ls6 Replaced all of the High performance big blocks But was only available in the Chevelle SS in 1970. And A detuned Version in the 1971 Corvette
@markg7030 you missed the whole point they kept the name for marketing purposes only he called it a l78 396 which it wasn't so he did make a error have a nice day
What about the Black/Gold Panther Camaros? Could only be had with 327’s or 427’s…..I saw an article about those a few years back…..I think those were from a Canadian dealer along the lines of Gibbs, Yenko and Motion
Without knowing it i owned a 67 built RS/SS 302 4 speed disc brake 12 bolt in Quebec city Canada. It was red but the factory color was yellow with a black top and interior. When i bought it for 200.00 around 1972 it had no engine or transmission or front seats in it and i put a Vette 396 4 speed in it to make due. Sold it to get married and guess which one i miss more? Back then they were just old cars. i believe it is still alive in Quebec but the owner has no idea what it really is?
I tried to buy a 1LE 89 IROC. I talked to John Heinricy at GM on numerous occasions. No dice. I wasn't a sanctioned racer. He wouldn't let me order one. The good old days when you could actually call GM on the phone and talk to the people making these cars.
A service representative at dealership in Connecticut took a guys rare (almost $100,000) 2019 Camaro ZL1e Hendrick Edition on a joyride and ran it into a guardrail on the interstate @ 90 mph. 😬
Here's a cool story: I had a '72 RS/SS 350 4-speed Camaro. One day, i decided to look for the build sheet. I found it under the right rear seat cushion. It said "72 Z27 402 Engine Turbo 400 transmission" Wait a second! My VIN was for a small block car. Sure enough, the VIN did not match. It also said black paint, black custom deluxe interior. My car was gold with black custom deluxe interior. How did these seats get in my car? Years later a lady walks up to me in a parking lot and says, "This was my boyfriend's car. Do you know the story on it?" I said, "No, tell me." She went on to say he lost control and went off the road into a ditch and under a barbed wire fence. Then the engine caught on fire. The interior burned up and they swapped it with another car and it also got a new wiring harness. I finally had my answer. And at sunset, if you looked at the repainted hood just right, you could see a faint line under the paint that went from the front to the back - that was where the barbed wire scratched to the metal and showed through the paint.
6:37 dude, you seriously should do your audio in that garage. Sounds 100% better. Back to regular video it sounds like you're talking through a tube. 11:23 i saw one of these running around my small town one summer. Poof. Gone. Wonder if the guy wrecked it or put it in storage.
hillbillymark here from ontario canada- you could look at the first of Gorries CHEV Toronto Canada BLACK PANTHER Camaro 1967-68 427-435hp built in 1966 for the owners son of the famous MOSPORT RACE TRACK. built ahead of Yenko and Baldwin motion
@ yeah the cars weren’t finished by them it was by GM is my point. Kinda like the difference between 67-68 yenko we’re done by him but in 69 they were done by GM after they made a deal.
Half the cars in the video were upgraded by companies other than GM. I forgot SLP (30th anniversary car). Callaway is no different than those in the video.
My father had a type LT Camero. I'm not sure of the exact year but it was a special package and was powerful fast pretty quick. It was a sleeper model that put irocs to shame. It was a 4 bolt main 350 small block. It had the turbo 400 auto 4 speed tranny. Sway bars suspension package. Brake's Etc. it has the Corvette engine in it. I'm not sure if the rear end but it was a built special package and was a beautiful brown. No spoilers true sleeper model. It would spin the wheels without touching the brakes. Just give it a little too much accelerator pedal. It was quick and fast smooth and controlled. Air conditioning power brakes windows sound system it was nice not quite Cadillac but nice. Tilt wheel. Cruise control. But my father let me drive it as mine for about a year. He drove his Lincoln's caddy's BMW's and Mercedes car's he owned a lot of car's plenty of muscle car's I basically got to drive about any car you can imagine. He owned maybe 50 car's at a time sometimes All his. That Camero I think was some special addiction or something. It could beat a lot of other cameros. He definitely had faster car's but yes that was a beautiful very nice Camaro. Type LT
I’ve actually got a very rare Camaro it’s a 1991 B4C with a 5speed manual I know that doesn’t sound very rare but I had to change the heater core and when I pulled the dash apart to get to it there was a tag that had it labeled as GM test car 2 the car does have some weird options from others that I have seen it came from the factory with a aluminum head 5.7 front strut tower brace and sub frame connectors
Almost bought a black 02 SS back in 05 but the huge shelf dash, engine under cowl goofy floor and front of door placement turned me off completely. Great driving cars, but not my cup of tea
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You forgot about the 365 HP dale 1970 1/2 RS camaro that I built with 4-11 rear trans am swaybars and 13 inch wide tires in Daytona yellow. It's a great car... dale.
Can't make a new comment under the post so il replay here. I would trade everything in this video all together for a 1967 327 4speed camaro
u should read up on the mark 4 series which came out in 1970 it even says they changed the angle of pistons and pushrods which means a all new block even my 67 yenko is consider a aftermarket car not factory even the 70 chevelle that got the ls block is a aftermarket not factory they pulled the 454 bbc and put a ls 6 454 in it my 67 came with a 396 factory and yenko dealer ship put the 427 in it which means it is a aftermarket car
There called traction bars or ladder bars. What did you call them thumper bars lol lol. Your right about 1 thing you got this out of a book
😎Damn🐶I need a 🍀Time machine ✌️
The '70 Camaro , still to me the most Beautiful.
I think the 69 was the very best looking
BUT for me the seats factory recline too much for me in that whole generation. I have to sit up straight or it kills my back. IF you put the seat straight up then my head is in the hoodlining. So give me a 70 Mustang,, for me far more comfortable or even a Mopar
Me as well, mainly due to nostalgia, and my father having rebuilt and owned one when I was a young teenager. I remember driving I back from the shed when he got it running sitting on a milk crate.
I agree, I've had lots of camaros, and the 70 rs I had was my favorite. Wish I could have kept it forever.
The second gen cars were awesome. Best looking.
I've owned four Camaros over the years, my first car was a 77 Type LT Rally Sport, and I still have my 2010 SS today... I approve of this video!!!
Ahhh.
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The cars we wish we'd kept.
1st gen is my favorite... Back in the day there were several very quick ones around my area (lower NY State) running 327's. Those engines were a dime a dozen, so if you blew one up, you could easily find a replacement. A few guys swapped in 350's but kept the air cleaner marked with the 327 badge to create a low cost sleeper ☺
My bud has a beautiful orange 69 302 DZ. it screams. 7000rpm shifts. It’s on my channel if u wish.
@@judgegixxer Thanks!
L48 350 they were dogs low performance 327 has shorter stroke letting it rev faster ....
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The 427 was a much better engine than the 454. The L-88 & ZL-1 put out up to 585 HP right from the factory despite being rated at only 430 HP. Thanks insurance companies.
I agree. Higher revving and still plenty of torque for the street
I'd way rather have the 427 too
@@rjkubr the ZL1 completely different beast then L-88 though it would of been awesome if they used that engine in a lot of cars for many years.
Love it
Agreed
I had a boss, named Dave, who owned a burgandy IROC Z. Great guy. He would only pull it out on nice days. I don't know how rare the last gen LT1 Camaros are, but I'd love to own one of those❤
Last yr Lt1 camaros arent really rare just tough to find a stock one thats not hammered.
The best Camaros in my opinion is the 1st to the 4th generation ones. A controversial take, but those were the ones that really defined the ride.
Have you driven a 5th generation ZL1 with the TR6060 6-speed manual on the race track?
@@AnnatarTheMaiaThe 5th gen's just don't have the same identity.
I agree with the OP. The 1st gen's are timeless classics, and the 4.5 gens with the LS1 will be timeless classics.
@@LynxStarAuto now you're talking nonsense: the 5th gen has multiple cues and nods to the first generation. In fact, it looks like the first generation would look if it were made in the 21st century. And if you want to talk cool, the 5th generation Camaro ZL1 is the spiritual successor to the Last V8 Interceptor from "Mad Max", as it was engineered by GM Holden of Australia. It's what Max Rockatansky would be driving today if there was a thermonuclear war.
@@AnnatarTheMaiabut that's the problem with the fifth and sixth generation Camaro. Sure they are the ultimate performance Camaros but not because of design but just because they are the newest Camaros and have access to the latest performance technology. And that retro styling is actually what hinders them from being even better than what they could be if they were built from more of an evolutionary standpoint rather than trying to be retro cool. In the first four generations, each generation was an improvement over the previous . But in the 5th and 6th generation they were more focused on styling which was not really advantageous for the best performance and the only reason they performed so well was just because they are newer cars and have access to the latest chassis suspension engine transmission and Brake performance technology but the actual car body design itself was a hinder towards performance.
My 2001 325-HP.
6-spd - WS6 Trans Am Brand New , beat a LT4 Corvette on the freeway,
3-5 gear, my car only had 200 miles on it, and walk that 340 HP LT4.
then later added full exhaust , tune,& 373 gears,
From a roll it would beat any car that ran low 12’s in a 1/4 mile .
Put a smile on my face every time I would shift those gears . 😅😅
You missed out on the 272 L - 89 aluminum head , SS 396 / 375 Camaros built in 1968 .
Available in 69 as well
@donnysmith946 yep , but they didn't make as many '68s ,, hence they fall under the heading of the rarest Camaros . The '69s aren't as rare .
the 302 DZ motor was every inch a valid competitor to the BOSS 302... Thank the automotive gods we have both so we can endlessly argue which is best...
Can confirm have the 302mo block engine as well as the 302dz block engine with the winters crossram intake. Rockin little engines.
Thank you. Nice presentation 🏆
The D EATH of the Camaro is NOTHING SHORT of GM aka M Barra (2013) INCOMPETENCE.
When the Gen5 Camaro Relaunched in 2010 - it OUTSOLD the Mustang and Challenger for the first 5 years, 2010.11.12.13.14.
Coincidence that Barra became CEO and Camaro DECLINED continually after her 1st year? I think NOT.
Bringing back the 'Maro as an EV will be a DISASTER.
NO REASON why you can NOT have a RENAISSANCE, the Technology is there and you can squarely go after Entry Porsches and M series BMWs.
Barra was also one of the Fiero engineers.
I think the 1970-72 big block SS cars are the coolest and pretty overlooked.
I'm surprised the 1970 LS6 Camaro didn't make the list. The LS6 was originally on the RPO list for the 70 Camaro, but GM removed the RPO pretty early on. But one was ordered, built and sold before the RPO was removed from the option sheet. It still exists today, it's a silver SS.
I have a 87 IROCZ convertible black with gold trim but my first Camaro was a 69 pace car and I was hooked on Camaros
I've had about 10 Camaros since I loved them all
😅We're kind of the same🐶I love my Mopars had 7 started off with my 691/2 Super Bee 383 4-speed then a 691/2 Coronet440 the🍀list goes on✌️
I had the 1990 Z with that tune port fuel injection. The nice blue Z28 IROC Chevy 350. Dual exhaust and possy rear end. Put a chip in it was pushing 400 HRP. Put 360,000 miles on it sold it to my friend yrs back. And Rumor has it he still has it pushing 900,000 miles… loved that ride
Imagine how the cars of the 70's and 80's would have been if there had never been the oil crisis of the early 70's
The one thing the oil crisis and smog control did was force the manufacturers to learn how to make horsepower while restricted. Now imagine how much power a modern car could make if they let them be gross polluters like in the 60’s.
I've always liked Camaros, but I dig the Firebird styling more. I had a 74 and a 67. I'd love to have the 74 Firebird back!
Buy one!
I enjoy my 67 400 'vert.
@@TheHsan22 My next car will be a wagon, most likely a Dodge Magnum, I need room to carry my drum kit.
72 big block was intense
Awesome video! Thank you so much for putting it together!!!
I remember those. 69, and 70 Yenko's. Used to see 'em on 8mile all the time.
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My first cousin bought the 2nd Z28 sold in Ga in 1967. He was drafted to Vietnam in 1968, and his mother sold it while he was gone, because she was sure he would kill himself in it if he ever made it home. He did, and he never forgave her, and I took him with me when I turned 17 and found my Camaro, a 1970 1/2. He was proud for me, and I had to let him drive it home from the person I bought it from. Marriage and family came along later in life, and I had to sell my baby too, but I'll always have the great memories of both of them.
It's a very lovely luxury muscle car, and it's a serious improvement from any stock car from Detroit. The only cars that could eclipse it are some of the later restomods of classic '60s and early '70s American muscle cars. The level of technical sophistication, craftsmanship, and design put into some modern restomods is just amazing.
Amityville Chevrolet who supplied Joel at Motion MANY LS-7’s. We used to put them in Racing Boats. Joel had two in COMOTION his boat. I changed a L88 cylinder head on it. Amity adversed the seven as: Horsepower to burn 660hp LS7! Miss you Steve!
A guy in my grandfathers car club had a 70 1/2 rs/ss 396. Gold car, I can’t remember but I think it was automatic. He bought it from the original owner who bought it as a graduation gift for his daughter. I can’t remember why but she wanted something else. The car was stored and then bought by this man in Avon Park Florida. GM often asked him to purchase the car since it has such low miles. They wanted to add it to the museum. They even did small and large work to the car to keep it on the road. He told me they picked it up and freshened the engine. Man I wish I remembered his name. My grandfather would be 75 now and this guy was slightly older. Hopefully his kids or someone picked it up or sold it to GM. Awesome car.
I acquired a 69 RS-ss. It had been flooded, the small block completely smashed. I gave it to a friend he went through it put a 396 hooked up to the stock rock crusher.
Great vid. Thanks!
The anniversary LT4 Camaro may have been a truly cool piece of "American" engineering, but it was actually a Canadian car. That generation of Camaro was built in Sainte-Thérèse, north of Montreal and shipped to SLP Engineering's plant in Lachine, another Montreal suburb, for transformation into an LT4 anniversary model.
Thank u. Great vid. I have a 72 chevelle with L S 1 on nos. With a 5 speed. I love it. Chevy is amazing
Worked with a guy in the late 70s who had a S28 Camaro, believe he said it was a 75 model. Had a 350-4speed and much of the Z28 options except for the rear deck spoiler. According to him, for that year we couldn’t get a Z in Canada. Now, I was about 13 years old then, so it might have been BS on his part, but yet, I can’t recall coming across a 75 at any shows over the years.
Excellent video!! So many videos in this format, which look like this one, are full of crap, but this one is not!👍
My friend has an '81 Yenko TurboZ, a silver Stage One.
And when I was two or three, I got to ride in my Uncle's new '68 Camaro SS396, but I'm pretty sure that his wasn't an L78 - it was a 4 speed though. White with the black stripe over the header panel, and back across the doors, and five-hole Rally Wheels.
Everyone always gets all excited about the big motored expensive low number build cars. Those are cool for the once over glance. But the ones I like are the more generic affordable models. Those were easy to find, easy to purchase and for the most part in many ways were the best looking ones. Ironically, they were so common and plentiful, very few have survived. It’s often easier to find the rare high dollar limited volume cars today than one of those. That’s why the James Rockford Firebird esprit is one of my favorite all time F body cars. It looked good then, still does today.
Stage 2 Yenko 2nd gens super cool!
97 SLP SS was a huge deal back then too. low 13s real cold air intake.
Good stuff...LT4 was GMs farewell to the Gen 1 sbc
Yeah this was a fun video. I liked it.👍
of all my muscle cars i miss most, is my 87 IROC. not as fast as my old 02 SS by a long shot, but the s3xy styling can't be denied! bought one new back then in dark red metallic, with the gold trimmed wheels. had some good times in that old IROC. went to many a rock concerts in that car. spent endless summers at the lake with it. everyone wanted to ride in it.. just nothing but great memories. and funny enough, the Silkwood kids lived right up the street from me where i used to live in S OK. they had just got their settlement from the Kerr McGee thing, and the son got a new Grand National, and his sister got a Trans Am. so we were kind of the bad boys on the block, or street! lolz.. the 80s were great, but wouldn't of been the same without those specific muscle cars! ☮
Local Chevy dealer back then made the news and Paper
Every single IROC had its wheels stolen overnight....many were stolen off lots back then.
Those were instant classics back then. If you had a Z or a 5.0 stang you were the cheez back then ll
also had an 87 iroc...........ive owned chevelles,6 other camaros,a few trans ams and i loved that iroc.i also had a chance to drive a lb9(305) 5 speed,high ratio rear formula(i think a 91-92) and that would be my first choice,quick,light,nimble,dead sexy.or of course a firehawk
The Camaro production really ended in 73 everything after that was power challenged.😮
Very informative video. I have a 79' Camaro that's white it had a 6 cylinder orig that was swapped long ago with a rebuilt 307 cu. A grocery getter car for my relative when bought new, very low miles now. This was a sport model with 14 "ralleys and plain body. Its interior is Baby Blue is that a rare option? Its getting a 76' built z28 350 installed soon . I need its 307 for a K5 75' blazer I have to make right.
I'm pretty sure my neighbor down the road has one of those iroc 1LE.. it's literally sinking into the ground but in an old barn. He said a long time ago it was a rare car for racing, has the smaller 305.. it's appearance looked like a base model, nothing special. It's been a few years since that encounter. What would it be worth in very rough condition?
I feel more videos should mention the switch from gross to net horsepower in 1972. Yes, of course power dropped in the 70's, but it was not as drastic as it looked on paper.
you forget the fact i live near woodward and we have a dreamcruise. so i have
but i appreciate your stories
I own a Red 91’ 1LE 5 speed, LB9(305) car. Bought it in 93’. I have my GM Vintage documents for it right now so for your info: the 305 made 230hp and the 350 (L98) made 245hp. Says here that 1570 Z28s were imported to Canada. Of those, 134 were 1LEs. Mine is also an(R7U) car. That’s the RPO for Canadian Players Car.
Mine was raced by Ken Wilden in the GMmotorsport Players Challenge and was the proctor&gamble #17 Tide/Bounce car. Ron &Rob Fellows started out in that series.
Also have an 02’ Z28 with 45 thousand original km. Borla & Vortech equipped. 520hp at wheels. I’ve been into F bodies since I was a tot. When I was a baby I rode around in dads 69’ bird. Learned to drive in his 86’ iroc. 🙄
It’s worth noting that GM, as well as some other manufacturers, were sued during the muscle car days. This was because they were being WAY underrated on their horsepower and torque output. If they said it put out 400, it was more like 450 plus, potentially plus a lot more. This was done to get the insurance cost on muscle cars to be lower. This made it more affordable for kids to buy and own the cars. It’s a well known and documented fact.
I love the color and the car 😢😮😊🎉❤
Just looking at it makes me drool all over myself
I hope I can have it soon as it's done
Merry Christmas and New Years you all deserve some time off to me and you're families 💋💘
Nice Video, You forget about 3rd gen Magnum Camaro build by Mecham
My Camaro ownership:
69 350 4 speed
69 350 3 speed automatic
68 350 3 speed automatic no a/c
(Originally 327 w/factory a/c)
2010 RS 2LT
My 5th and current Camaro also a 2010 RS 2LT, love(d) them all!
I have no interest in any Camaro after Gen 3.
Awesome job on the video, btw.
Then you are missing out, because the 5th generation, TR6060 6-speed ZL1 is an excellent track weapon to put even a Porsche GT2 RS in his place on the race track, and I quote an exasperated GT2 RS owner after a few rounds on the track: "but I'm 450 kg lighter!" "Good for you."
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I'm still cooler in my '70 Z28.
@@my1vice sure, but this ain't about cool, it's about putting mechanically disinclined idiots and metrosexuals with Ferraris, McLarens, Porsches and all that automatic transmission garbage in their place on the race track.
Most people have heard of all of these.
I had a 1976 LT Camaro 4 Speed
Wrong. The LS7 was slated for Corvette production and was not a replacement for the LS6. Again wrong on the statement that " there were only a few left around". You could buy the LS7 Crate CE over the counter until the late 80s. One made it into a factory 1970 Chevelle SS as a press car.
And I still think you failed to mention the auto form 2 seat roasters of the third generation F body from 83 to 86 they made around 1000 to 1100 of them and they were GM approved because the dealer had to send them a brand new car to get the conversion but it was a $6000 options on a $14,000 car❤❤
13:13. One problem… Where’s the houndstooth interior? Or is it white on white houndstooth??
Many years ago i had a 68 Camaro . I built a 302 and added a 4 speed ..it was a fun car . Should have kept it . Later on i bought a 80 z 28 a new car from chev . I found a article that stated chev had built a proto engine car i think it was called wild child ..So i tried to copy the build and added water meth injection.. i also had a 68 Camaro that i built a 302 , 4 speed ..it was a lot more fun to drive than the modified 80 z28 .
When i was a young kid I would walk past Baldwin Motion and just stare at the cars, right there on Sunrise Highway !
I have a 70 SS 396 Camaro that Was purchased from a friend (who bought it New in July of 1970) in 1977 missing the engine. I purchased a wrecked 70 SS 396 Chevelle in 79 and put the engine & tranny in my Camaro. It's been in storage 3 times currently since 2015
I owned a 67' Camaro that was only powered with a 250ci In-Line 6 cylinder. I always wanted a 327ci but the 6 was pretty quick for what it was. I wish I still had that car.
You forgot the Macho Z! 1 prototype built in 78, 7 produced in 79.
Cool video. I knew about them all though
The strike has nothing to do with the Camaro coming out late it was tooling issues with the quarter panels on the new design all other 1970 Chevrolets came out as normal in fall of 69
The 1967 to 1969 Camaro Z-28 was a 327 block using a 283 crank. The 1968 model I know about also had factory installed headers and chambered exhaust that used no mufflers. The engine balanced and blueprinted and the chambered exhaust taken from a factory Corvette exhaust was street legal and raced in the stock factory class quarter mile.
You should do your research before you make yourself look like a total fool.
Called a DZ-302 the crank was same stroke as a 283 but it was forged steel instead of standard cast iron one from a 283. They had camel hump heads with the 2.02, 1.60 valves. Also had 800 cfm Holley and 11.0:1 compression ratio. The headers were never factory installed and were an option that came in the trunk the buyer had to install extremely rare a dealer may do it but that was like a buddy’s only thing. As far as the No muffler chambered exhaust that wasn’t a thing they all came with mufflers from factory have to remember 68 was first year of new smog regulation bs.
Oh and all engines are balanced and blueprinted if they were not balanced they wouldn’t run and blueprinting just means someone wrote it down😂
@@Thumper68Yeah, I was gonna say almost none of that is true, haha! Glad to see someone beat me to it.
I know of a first Generation Camaro that is a one of one. It's the one and only 1st Gen Z/28 convertible
Hi, I was a backyard mechanic in the late 70's and into the 80's. I worked on many cars. I worked with a guy that wanted a motor for his 78 z28 camaro. I changed it for him. The car was different because it had a stainless steal or aluminum trim that was roughly 6 to 8 inches wide, it was located in front of the back window and went from drivers side to passenger side. I've never seen another one with this. I'm sure it was from factory because it was a perfect fit. Would you know where I could find out more info on it. I'm sure it was one of one car.
IROCS WERE THE CLOSEST THING TO THEIR NASCAR RACECARS!
Of course I like the video
How about the68 427.with the stingrays hood scoop??
My first ride in a Camaro was in my 16 year old cousin's 1967 plain Jane green interior, and exterior color 307 , Saginaw 3 speed in the floor box stock Comaro. That was in 1974, and I was about 8 years old.! I thought it was a Hot Rod race car.! It was just a cheap, inexpensive old used car then. Flawless body, paint, and interior.!! It even had 307 emblems on the front fenders.! He sold it when he got his second car, a Trans Am.🤭😉
A motor is *electric*. An *engine* is mechanical. Engine. Engine. Engine.
your point is meaningless,motor,engine same difference
Yes !! I agree, and you ride a motorcycle not drive one.
So General *Motors* is in the business of electric motors?
Ford Motor Company?
A motor mount is only for electric motors?
A motocross is only for electric motorcycles?
Are motorcycles electric only?
Seriously who gives a shit
No... An engine is internal combustion
Like the blue Camaro you had it had a name badge on it I remember when you bought it into harbour city cycles your blue Camaro now is quite priceless it was the one the factory would allow replacement parts the now selling for $700,000 USA your particular car had a name badge on it on the grill it started with b and that's what we're going on about they are priceless on today's market remember the front shape of your blue Camaro it's amazing how much they are so cherished on today's market 700 American be looking at 1.5 million for the condition your car was in people are grabbing them and restoring them I wonder where that ever went to??
3:37 wait what?? Thats strats. I know that place. They host car meets all the time
What camaro should i pick for sunday cruse the z/28, but for a future video the iroc 1le story need to told.
For a Sunday cruiser nothing beats the Amphicar. You can go boating and driving without pulling a separate trailer/boat.
@luckymanham302 🤣🤣🤣.
The GMMG ZL1 4th gen is definitely a badass machine. But it's not the most badass production 4th gen Camero. The 2002 Berger Supercar Dick Harrell Edition Camaro also by GMMG was available in 5 phases from the 400hp phase 1 to the absolutely crazy phase 5 at 670 hp! Which is pretty damn potent by today's standards, let alone a car produced 22 years ago. It's also more scarce than the 4th gen ZL1 with a production run of only 30 units plus 2 prototype cars.
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Rarest Cameron z-28 1967 z-28 conv made fora GM executive dark green one of one ! Raymond
It was a 1968 Z28 and it was built for Pete Estes
No.. it was a 68
Talking about old car reliability, not many things more reliable than a carbureted 350! More dependable than many modern cars.
I think the 1969 Z-10 should have been on this list as there were only 400-500 produced
I owned a 1986 IROCZ 350/350 SS I had to special order the 350 back in 1986 being that 305 V8 were the normal engine back then it had a 6 speed Borg Warner six speed Black with Gold stripes
There were only 50 IROCs made in 1986 with the 350. It was a very limited availability vehicle. Not sure about the 6 speed from the factory back then. The 5 speed was not yet strong enough to handle the power of the 350. Would love to see the build sheet for the car you described.
He made an error when he said that the 1970 Camaro. SS.
L78. Was a 396 But in actuality, it was a 402. Which replace the 396 from previous years? And the 454ls6 Replaced all of the High performance big blocks But was only available in the Chevelle SS in 1970. And A detuned Version in the 1971 Corvette
It still had 396 emblems on the fenders. That's not an error, the 402 was marketed as a 396.
@markg7030 you missed the whole point they kept the name for marketing purposes only he called it a l78 396 which it wasn't so he did make a error have a nice day
What about the Black/Gold Panther Camaros? Could only be had with 327’s or 427’s…..I saw an article about those a few years back…..I think those were from a Canadian dealer along the lines of Gibbs, Yenko and Motion
If you watch the video of the guy driving the 69 ZL1… he blows right thru a stop sign lol!
Without knowing it i owned a 67 built RS/SS 302 4 speed disc brake 12 bolt in Quebec city Canada. It was red but the factory color was yellow with a black top and interior. When i bought it for 200.00 around 1972 it had no engine or transmission or front seats in it and i put a Vette 396 4 speed in it to make due. Sold it to get married and guess which one i miss more? Back then they were just old cars. i believe it is still alive in Quebec but the owner has no idea what it really is?
I tried to buy a 1LE 89 IROC. I talked to John Heinricy at GM on numerous occasions. No dice. I wasn't a sanctioned racer. He wouldn't let me order one. The good old days when you could actually call GM on the phone and talk to the people making these cars.
The parts for both l88 an zl1 were identical except for cam.an aluminum an 1 iron block., zl1 cam had more lift
There was a 1992 camaro that had the 6 speed from the vette and the motor but checy didn't think anyone would buy itt so it was turned in a police cae
A service representative at dealership in Connecticut took a guys rare (almost $100,000) 2019 Camaro ZL1e Hendrick Edition on a joyride and ran it into a guardrail on the interstate @ 90 mph. 😬
NEW 1970 Camaro SS/RS 396 L34, AT, AC, PS, PDB, silver, dog dish, black interior, etc.
Wish I still had it.
Here's a cool story: I had a '72 RS/SS 350 4-speed Camaro. One day, i decided to look for the build sheet. I found it under the right rear seat cushion. It said "72 Z27 402 Engine Turbo 400 transmission" Wait a second! My VIN was for a small block car. Sure enough, the VIN did not match. It also said black paint, black custom deluxe interior. My car was gold with black custom deluxe interior. How did these seats get in my car? Years later a lady walks up to me in a parking lot and says, "This was my boyfriend's car. Do you know the story on it?" I said, "No, tell me." She went on to say he lost control and went off the road into a ditch and under a barbed wire fence. Then the engine caught on fire. The interior burned up and they swapped it with another car and it also got a new wiring harness. I finally had my answer. And at sunset, if you looked at the repainted hood just right, you could see a faint line under the paint that went from the front to the back - that was where the barbed wire scratched to the metal and showed through the paint.
I only knew about three of these because of being featured in the gran Turismo series of games.
6:37 dude, you seriously should do your audio in that garage. Sounds 100% better. Back to regular video it sounds like you're talking through a tube. 11:23 i saw one of these running around my small town one summer. Poof. Gone. Wonder if the guy wrecked it or put it in storage.
hillbillymark here from ontario canada- you could look at the first of Gorries CHEV Toronto Canada BLACK PANTHER Camaro 1967-68 427-435hp built in 1966 for the owners son of the famous MOSPORT RACE TRACK. built ahead of Yenko and Baldwin motion
Traco 350 IROC Camaro were petty fast and cool in the first IROC series 1974
GM.. put that Chambers exhaust.. on all GM's.. but you had to order it.. then they discontinued it... Too much publicity
All of these cars are well known and well documented in every car mag for the last 50yrs.
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0:14 - Who would tub a 67 RS ???
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Many. Its just a car....
1LE and ZL1
2012 45th anniversary with a Callaway SC572 package. Only 5 anniversary cars were built.
He’s talking built by GM.
@Thumper68 Baldwin, GMMG, were/are tuners.
Yenko also...
@ yeah the cars weren’t finished by them it was by GM is my point. Kinda like the difference between 67-68 yenko we’re done by him but in 69 they were done by GM after they made a deal.
Half the cars in the video were upgraded by companies other than GM. I forgot SLP (30th anniversary car). Callaway is no different than those in the video.
Love them 4th gens.
My father had a type LT Camero. I'm not sure of the exact year but it was a special package and was powerful fast pretty quick. It was a sleeper model that put irocs to shame. It was a 4 bolt main 350 small block. It had the turbo 400 auto 4 speed tranny. Sway bars suspension package. Brake's Etc. it has the Corvette engine in it. I'm not sure if the rear end but it was a built special package and was a beautiful brown. No spoilers true sleeper model. It would spin the wheels without touching the brakes. Just give it a little too much accelerator pedal. It was quick and fast smooth and controlled. Air conditioning power brakes windows sound system it was nice not quite Cadillac but nice. Tilt wheel. Cruise control. But my father let me drive it as mine for about a year. He drove his Lincoln's caddy's BMW's and Mercedes car's he owned a lot of car's plenty of muscle car's I basically got to drive about any car you can imagine. He owned maybe 50 car's at a time sometimes All his. That Camero I think was some special addiction or something. It could beat a lot of other cameros. He definitely had faster car's but yes that was a beautiful very nice Camaro. Type LT
I know I'll never have anything on this list. But I would like to get an early 2nd gen Camaro.
What about 2010 year?
The '80s were a dark time indeed
I’ve actually got a very rare Camaro it’s a 1991 B4C with a 5speed manual I know that doesn’t sound very rare but I had to change the heater core and when I pulled the dash apart to get to it there was a tag that had it labeled as GM test car 2 the car does have some weird options from others that I have seen it came from the factory with a aluminum head 5.7 front strut tower brace and sub frame connectors
I gotta be honest, Camaros are cool, but the 4th gen have been growing on me, when I used to disregard them...
Almost bought a black 02 SS back in 05 but the huge shelf dash, engine under cowl goofy floor and front of door placement turned me off completely.
Great driving cars, but not my cup of tea
You missed the 5th generation COPO Camaro.