This new handheld is insane...｜Asus ROG Ally Z1 Extreme
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ก.ย. 2024
- The new 120Hz Asus ROG Ally Z1 Extreme is insane. At $599 for the Z1 and $699 for the Z1 Extreme going on sale worldwide beginning June 13th 2023, this handheld gaming monster plays almost any game you can throw at it thanks to Windows 11, RDNA 3 graphics and a huge list of features that will make other handhelds wonder how Asus crammed it all in! Join me for an unboxing and quick first impressions review while quickly testing some Street Fighter 6 gameplay.
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i saw on twitter that both valve and asus compliment & congratulates each other about the possibility of handheld pc gaming. its also great to see that!
$700 is a lot cheaper than I expected, especially from ROG. Only a bit more than their phone. Would be interesting to see a revisit from you on this down the line for a review on its long term usage.
Soon steam deck 2, why get that??
@@mshinasherman7914 soon psp vita 3, why get that??
@@mshinasherman7914 valve already said a steam deck 2 isn't coming anytime soon..
@@mshinasherman7914 yeah valve said that there will be no steam deck 2 anytime soon, they might not even make make it I think I heard they were losing money from the steam deck
I cant wait for the future of handhelds. The competition is insane because of the Ally. I hope we get another one from PlayStation and I hope the Switch 2 or Switch Pro would have more power
Playstation has already stated that they aren't stupid enough to compete in the handheld market. They'll only compete if they know they can dominate the market and not merely place 5th or 6th place. Besides, I would bet that most Playstation gamers won't be able to afford both a gaming console and a handheld gaming device considering many of them are children and college students. Nintendo has solved that problem by making their console both portable and dock-able.
@@kanivakil198 make sense, but a new psp or ps vita with the same spec as rog ally or the deck would sell like a hot cakes, instead they focusing on vr 🤦♂️
@@kanivakil198Stupid enough? I find it extremely funny that's how you put it considering they're in the VR market. They were stupid enough to do that. A ps4 pro level handheld would sell more than a damn VR headset.
@@Crecross guess we found the one thats stupid enough
steamdeck is an ecosystem, an OS. Sony is optimizing their games for Steamdeck. Under Asus, no one will set up their games, because the point is in the approach. Asus made a portable PC with a gamepad, and Valve made their console, which has been in development for several generations, they have already talked about steamdeck 2, which will be better, but not more powerful, so as not to upset gamers and interfere with developers. It seems to me that this is the main thing. Sorry, this is google translate, I don't know English, Thank you for the video! =)
@@vo1d470 SteamOS is the special sauce for the Steam Deck, though I would be extremely interested to see how the ROG Ally runs ChimeraOS
The only reason Steam Deck needs games to be optimized is because of Steam OS itself. PC games are made for Windows and need Proton and sometimes additional optimization to run on Steam OS. I have a Steam Deck and GPD Win 4 and games run better on the Win 4 without the special optimization.
the steamdeck 2 will definitely be more powerful. it isn't coming anytime soon, of course it will be more powerful. this thing is already more powerful, so it can run all things the deck does but better.
On other hand if something isn't optimized/verify for proton can run worse. Here u have more power and more option for emulation (win on steamdec eat half resources). Overall X2 more performance for X2 the price+better screan. Fair priced considering velve subsidised hardware
You can just use steam os on this. If developers are prioritizing the steam deck that just means they are optimizing for band held devices so they will all benefit.
By the way SF6 runs at 1080p60 with Internal resolution at 5 (max) with no issues today. I’m guessing that charging the battery while playing on day 1 was causing some thermal throttling or something. Anyway, will continue to test!
awesome news bro. literally the only reason i have no steamdeck yet, is the fact it struggles to run games like sf6 as smooth and without that dealbreaking input lag. but the asus rog will not have a dock, like steam deck has, right? i just wanted to have a mobile pc, that is capable of running fighting games with no downsides and also is a replacement for my desktop pc + 20 m hdmi cable across 3 rooms, to connect it with the tv in the living room... seems like i have to wait a little bit longer, but future is promising.
edit: i'm surprised you didn't mention the build quality of the face buttons. they seem to get stuck easily, like x-box buttons. linus also mentioned it in his review (he said, he jammed them multiple times... i think he meant they are stuck, possible without even triggering, since this exact issue i have with xbox controllers and those buttons seem very similar to me.). those buttons are another dealbreaker for me, sadly.
EDIT 2: well, i figured out you seem to have the option to even connect it with an external graphics card and of course to somewhat easy connect it with a monitor as well... so really, the only downside to me would be my issue with the face buttons, lol. would be nice, if you could test this awesome piece of hardware a little more indepth and in a real setup for competetive gaming :D
@@soramercury7074 It does have a dock,it's more like a charging brick with 1 of each-HDMI 2.0 a USB3 and TYPE-C port
@@SgtReaper22 yeah, have seen it. should be alright, i guess. still waiting for someone to test it's speed, but the system itself should already have less input lag, than steam deck. not a big asus fan though... hopefully valve is looking at it and does it even better next time :D
@@soramercury7074 The only experience I had with an Asus product was in Summer 2013 I purchased from Best Buy a Gaming Desktop Pre-built.I had no issues for 5yrs and even upgraded the GPU,but in Summer 2018 it would every so often not detect my 1TB HDD and I would have to change some setting in the BIOS to get it to boot properly again.
This is killing the portable scene, Nintendo going have to put that work in now
This is not a threat to Nintendo, they have the strongest Global IP, it's Valve and the other portable pc manufacturers who are gonna have to put in that work.
@@LXIVGOLD What do you mean Valve will have to put in the work? They already have, the software is the secret sauce for the Steam Deck, and Valve makes money off game sales. The ROG Ally will only boost Steam Sales (yes other platforms work on it too but I expect a very large percentage of people who buy one will put Steam on it), which means the ROG Ally will only help Valve.
Lord GabeN Himself stated that the whole point of the Steam Deck was to create a new class of gaming PCs so someone like ASUS making something like the ROG Ally is exactly what Valve wanted
@@jonesdude25 I believe they said they actually wanted to work to bring SteamOS to devices like this and ayaneo as well. Like you said the point was never hardware sales
@@LXIVGOLD "This is not a threat to nintendo" ..... okieee dokie.... As a Software and Network engineer myself who works in gaming. PLEASE BELIEVE, Handheld PC gaming isa HUGE threat to nintendo...... HUGE... First thing to consider, Nintendo has always had Handheld and Table top consoles simultaneously and even when they had TableTop console failures like the WiiU, Gamecube(was kinda not that successful ! Check the numbers) and the Nintendo 64 (Also wasn't that successful, Check the numbers ), they've ALWAYS dominated the handheld market because they didn't have much competition there....... Now they only have 1 sku that i don't believe they can leave i.e Hybrid Handheld..... unlike before, they are now DIRECTLY in the line of fire of Handheld devices like this one...... don't fool yourself into the false narrative that "Nintendos Software and IP is why people go to nintendo".... because the WIIU had Nintendo IP, FAILED! the DS initially wasn't much of a success either. What did the "Strongest Global IP" do for the WiiU? which was released RIGHT AFTER one of the MOST POPULAR consoles in the history of humanity i.e The Wii? aka right after one of Nintendos MOST POPULAR eras ?
Nintendo's next move is their MOST IMPORTANT move....... Don't fool yourself one bit.... Nintendo is FULLY AWARE of what's transpired since the steamdeeck came in at a $399 pricepoint
does this mean that nintendo fails immediately? absolutely not because they have a big enough base to find success in their next project.... BUT, this DEFINTELY MEANS that a LARGE ENOUGH amount of people who got a switch because it was the only handheld option at a $399 price point will ABSOLUTELY chose more powerful options that play the games they ACTUALLY want to play...which cuts DIRECTLY into nintendos pockets.. ps a "More Powerful Switch 2" is not going to change that fact either because all these devices have power....
The thing I like about Nintendo over other switch clones is that it has the tail system so if your controller get worn down and start to drift you can replace them easily
Showing the games that matter!
Fighting games rise up!
First of all your videos are always excellent quality and informative of a gamers perspective…I’ve gotten over product because you did a good review of it man
Really appreciate it thanks!
I don’t think valve minds these devices coming out because it will just get more people buying games on steam so honestly the more the merrier. Competition is always a good thing and I forget how much valve is charging for their top tier steam deck but it looks like the ally is being competitive with it which is great. Let’s just hope they keep updating and optimizing this device which is something valve has been fantastic with.
The D-Pad still worries me somewhat. That's the only big flaw I can see right from the getgo along side potential windows shenanigans.
The dpad use to worry me from the start but then I used my elite xbox controller and realize how much I actually like the circle. It's weird. Now I don't mind it.
i hope they also put the z1 extreme in notebooks or Mini PCs. That thing is rly crazy.
It already is, the z1 extreme is a recycled g14 chip
Yeah I’m pretty sure it’s a 7840u
Awesome video! Looking forward for you to share the settings for running SF6 in 1080p. Tbh I didn't liked how it performed on the Steam Deck, so depending on the reviews for the next 2-3 weeks I'll decide if I pivot away from the SD in favor of the ROG Ally.
You're not running anything on it at 120hz and 1080 isn't needed on a screen that size. The most important thing they got wrong is that u can't install anything larger than 2tbs with that nvme size they decided to go with. Its a huge disappointment the AyaNeo 2S will blow this thing out the water.
@@Ervinnd that's isn't the deal-breaker at all lol
@@shahtayyib Man 2tb is sad it's 2023 I have a 8tb nvme in my Ayaneo 2 and its still not enough space.
Great review. Hope people will like these portable gaming systems. Thank You.
Out of all the Asus ROG Ally videos that dropped within 24hrs. This is my favorite💛💚💙❤💜
You got us Fighting game fanatics covered on this👍
Steam deck directional pad is better for fighting games.
Awesome review. I’m subbed now, I can’t believe I haven’t seen your channel until now! Keep up the great work!!
What a great review. Well done. I will give it a try
All the fighting enthusiasts here want to know HOW IS THE DPAD, especially compared to the other option, the steam deck. If we want to play sf6, and the controls/dpad are the most important, which device should we get? Its been 3 weeks and we still don't have your 'full' review but the device comes out soon and I need to know whether to get it or not.
Definitely trying it. Going to pick one up today!
That price is just perfect. Faster CPU and GPU, and a better screen than the steam deck and looks better. But that 1080p 120hz screen, as gorgeous as it is, I wonder how will it impact on battery life.
should be a much shorter battery life depending on the usage
But it's adjustable. What I read is same battery life as the Deck despite the bump in quality, or you can lower the setting and get better battery life than the deck at the same settings.
Let’s be real. No one will be playing this outside.
Only about 1 hour of battery life.
i have to wonder what music and sounds are like through the headphone jack. maybe someone else tested it.
Finally Someone showed a new fighting game on here. Thank you. This sealed the deal for me. Placing my preorder today
What this kills is the Nintendo Switch era. But I do think they the price/performance is still in favor of the steam deck. Also, 1080 at that size is negligible. And I would not be surprise if steam has a replacement screen sooner for those who are willing to open it and change it.
Now we can play different fighting games on the go again.
I saw other reviews on this and they said the face buttons are prone to stick which would be a huge issue for me
Most of you gamers don't know basic hygiene so after about an hour of use the buttons will be greasy as fk
Really impressive bit of tech! Did it get hot when you were testing Street Fighter, or was the temperature fine?
The top of the device gets very hot while charging and playing at the same time but fortunately you never need to touch it there. With a regular grip I didn’t feel excessive heat though!
@@NihongoGamer Wow, good to hear! Was interested in a handheld like this but the Steamdeck just didn’t appeal to me as much.
@@heefmvc the benefit of big company is their long term support of the device. A small company can easily go bankrupt and there wont be warranty for u any more. Asus, and Microsoft is the perfect solution for handheld market. Especially, asus , since they can easily refresh Rog ally every year since they already buying chips from amd on their laptop, and refreshing laptop yearly . If steam deck release every 5 years like the console, I can see a future where the whole market share of pc handheld market is captured by Asus
Looks awesome, very
good video
You're one of the reviewers that actually played in handheld. Does the face buttons feel good and did you experience buttons being stuck?
This Rog Ally is just getting more and more appealing to me.
Steam Deck 512GB Comparison:
Price difference US: +50$ ✅
Price difference EU: +120€🤯 (130$)
Of course the price-performance ratio is still good but €799 is €799.
I pre ordered one. My steamdeck screen went out. I’m trying to get it fixed.
How does the Ally do with Steam games compared to Steam Deck? I have a deck but gonna sell it for this if it will run all my Steam games just as good since most of my games are Steam
I’ll be doing various tests over the coming weeks and will post videos as much as I can!
It destroys the steam deck especially when plugged in sky's the limit
I think I would rather have the Z13 Flow tablet so that I could stick with 1 device for everything.
What’s the difference between the extreme and the regular z1? Anything significant?
6 cores vs 8 cores
Can you hook a arcade stick on here and how's the WiFi?
Wifi was far as I could tell. Downloaded sf6 using my home’s maximum download speed. Will be testing it arcade sticks soon!
So glad I waited and didnt pick up a Steam Deck. I'll definitely be picking one of these up!
Looks great! Is it a Touchscreen?
Might not have mentioned it. Yes 10-point touchscreen! Surprisingly responsive too!
@@NihongoGamer Nice! Thank you. 🙂
What did you have the TDP set to when playing SF6? Im curious to see if it can run 1080p 60 FPS at max TDP. I think it can actually go up to 35.
Honestly I have no idea lol. I booted it up and left everything on default settings for this first video because I finished work late and had very little time to record!
@@NihongoGamer Look forward to seeing more then!
The only thing preventing me from getting one of these portable consoles is the battery life.
ARM chips are unmatched when it comes to efficiency.
It’s linked to my home server so I can access all my files & also remote access my desktop pc from anywhere literally
9:05 "and so portable as well..." Battery life is more important in determining how portable it is than its size. This device like many others are more likely to be bedside toys.
Wow so cool you got one
What I like more about it it’s the mobile card that turn the handheld into beast mode on tv or monitor even the ps5 can catch the performance
I've been watching videos of the ROG Ally game play, and I'm wondering if you know anything about how simulator games will do on the Ally? I've seen fighting, racing and rpg games but no mention on simulation. In my steam library I've got ATS (looking to get ETS) Farming Simulator 19 +22 and wanting to get Flight Simulator also. Can the Ally handle these titles? (Maybe a future video of some Sim play)
It can run all simulation at a low tdp
Can you try PS5 remote play ?
Good idea!
He starts the device at around 8th minute. You're welcome.
The steam deck with the same size ssd really is basically the same price. After this becomes available the steam deck will need a version 2 upgrade, if not then at least a big price reduction.
Please test SF6. And do a comparison with the steam deck running the same game.
I’ll be trying SF6 a lot for sure!
Can you turn off the Ally mid game and turn it back on and it takes you right back where you left off?
i hope this company can build this device like switch screen and you can connect with any controller you want.
6axis gyro built in?
will you recommend rog ally or steam deck for someone who will buy today?
I preordered mine. Mainly to use for emulation and some games pass. Steam deck failed me for AAA gaming. Its more for low end gaming and indies. Rog ally sux for low power gaming so just have it plugged in while you game in turbo mode and it will play better than steam deck while plugged in.
I was looking into this and it seems like it blows the steam deck out of the water performance/graphics-wise. Seems like the only place it's lacking is no touch pads. Other than that, on par or better than the steam deck in every way.
Hows the battery life for AAA gaming?
Asus is like windows apple for better and for worse
Sony watching this: “it’s time to make the PS vita2
I really wish they wouldn't have put RGB on the thing, but ROG is gonna ROG. It's not a "gamer" product unless it has RGB.
You can turn off the RGB through armoury crate.
I am giving it some thought of switching from my 256GB Steam Deck to the ROG ALLY,for me it's windows instead of Linux so all of my stuff on my Gaming PC is compatible in-case I ever have PC issues, I could use the ROG ALLY and still do what I do daily without issue.
Why get rid of such an excellent device? Just keep your SD.
@Panamike you're not my dad😅
@@shatteredsentient5321 Just be happy with your Steam Deck son. HAHA JK! Yeah, do whatever you want. I was just pointing out that it's a good device.
was u able to run sf6 at 120fps or near to it?
I changed a buncha settings but the game stayed locked at 60 during matches. Not sure if maybe the game is only designed to play at 120 during other modes. Will keep testing!
Can i play tekken 7 and 8 on rog ally??????
it only significantly best steam deck at high power draw, for like 60 min. but no doubt this is compeling device.
Switch if it was actually modern and not held back by it's own design
Hi 👋
Do you know when is it coming to Japan?
maybe you mentioned it, but i didnt catch it - is the screen a touchscreen?
Might not have mentioned it. Yes 10-point touchscreen! Surprisingly responsive too!
Asus had me under they announced the proprietary 799/1999 docks.
Those are external hard drives for more power, not docks.
@@Ridku13 "ROG XG Mobile eGPU Dock"
I just go by what Asus calls them. It's their product, if they call it a dock, it's a dock.
And I couldn't find anything about them holding hard drives.
Hi I heard the x button gets stuck could you confirm please
Iam wondering can you just put the SD card that is formatted on the steam Deck on the Ally without re-formatting it that would save me time redownloading/transferring the games if i get the ally
I somehow doubt it but I might try it (if it deletes my steam library I’m blaming u tho lol)
@@NihongoGamer only if you click "yes" to format ( •̀ᴗ•́ )و ̑̑
Is ok 50€ to buy this?
Now that Valve was able to create a PC Handheld Market, looks like the perfect time to exit that market. They've been selling those at a loss and most of the gamers are going to be buying games through Steam anyway
So on the rog ally can play all games while the steam deck can not play all games right???
In theory, yes. But Proton is pretty amazing and the Steam Deck can run almost everything I’ve thrown at it.
Had me at asus
Another handheld at the same type as the rog with good battery life?
Aya neo 2s is better in a lot of ways but a little more expensive
Need PC VR benchmarks 😎👍
Video got me to look it up. Price got me to nope out of there so fast. 😂
Huh? The price is super-competitive for a handheld PC with these specs. Every other one on the market (sans Steam Deck) is *more* expensive, and it's only $50 more than the highest-end Steam Deck while being much more powerful.
@@HealyHQ guess I'm not the target audience. 😂
Also does it have a hdmi out or something
In the official ROG channel, they have a video where there is a cable connecting it to a monitor
The dock I showed in the video but didn’t unbox has hdmi out!
ROG Ally is not perfect, when playing 3A games, the battery life is only 90~120 minutes ( Steam Deck also has the same battery life), but under the same operating conditions, ROG Ally has a stable and acceptable at least 36~40 FPS (Frame Per Second) , and the Steam Deck only has an embarrassing 25~30FPS
I expect AMD to update the new APU driver in the future, let ROG Ally can have lower power consumption and longer battery life under the premise of unchanged Frame Per Second
I'm pre ordering
So it was lagging on the sf6 demo so he had to turn it down to 720 p?
This was while charging the device and on the first boot of the system. I tried 1080p the next day and with various settings changed I was running it at 60fps. Gonna try playing while charging again to see if the same thing happens again
@NihongoGamer ok good to know I struggle playing the sf6 demo on tbe steam deck mostly i guess it's getting too hot so major frame drop!
Are they letting you keep it?
I’m not required to return the review unit! I plan to make more videos using it, testing various things and also a full review
@NihongoGamer lucky you. Congrats on your successful channel. I have onexplayer 2 although it has enough power to di most things I tend to use it alot with moonlight streaming from gaming pc at home for insane battery life.
not worth it at 699.. as you can buy a decent better spec second hand gaming laptop ..! i've bought steam deck for 350 and it's kinda the right price versus performance for a hand-held !
The most expensive SD is $650...
@@Ridku13 that's for the 512 nvme ssd version.. when nvme was expensive 1 year ago.. the only version of SD worth buying is the cheapest one on the 1 year anniversary for 314£.. If asus would be 350.. I would definitely consider buying!
Good stuff. Now show us rainbow six siege or rainbow six classics
Does it come in black?
❤
Imagine playing Strive on it
might be cool if I can put Windows 10 on it.
Can you play games online with this?
Yes lol
@@monkeyboooty just wondering how it does with rollback netcode
I pre-order it looks dope can’t wait
Does it lag?
It’s not hdr?
Funny how I can play Nintendo switch game on that thing. Nintendo switch is just obsolete now.
Steam deck less price or Asus rog ally with z1 extreme for maxed out, not normal z1 🤢
🔥🔥
how is the battery life on it?
2.5 hours. Maybe a bit more if you play on ultra save mode. But you can charge while playing.
@@thesecretcouncil thats a bit lower than the switch
You got excited for bezels.
I get excited just saying the word bezels.
@@NihongoGamer LOL
700.00 bucks! Woo wee
still waiting the new PSP from sony!
Almost perfect I hate those kind of D-pads.
What about it do u dislike? The circular shape? Or the position?
The circular I personally like PSP’s/vita’s layout. Took me sometime get used to my steam deck so Rog be more of learning curve.
The D-pad is so bad.
I hope destiny 2 works
How is he playing SF6 if the beta isn't out yet?
There's been a single-player demo out for weeks...