Fortunate enough to own RSV4 Factory, V4R, SFV4 and Tuono Factory. SFV4>RSV4Factory>TuonoV4>V4R, just my opinion. The SFV4 is the greatest bike of all time.
As someone who has seen and rode the @motomollion StreetFighter V4. Pictures and videos don't do justice.Your builds are next level. They are pieces of art. After I got bit by the Ducati bug, I couldn't decide which one to go with and ended up settling with a Panigale V4. When its cooler, I will ride it down to Miami and that would be the longest ride for me!
I sat on the street fighter v4 today and it was super tall! I’m 6’ 1” (1.83 meter) and I couldn’t flat foot with normal shoes! I had no idea the riding position was still heavily skewed to sport bike geometry vs bikes like the Ducati monster or a triumph speed triple where you really sit in the bike
I also saw the V4 SP though… and I will say that just for me… the presence that bike has is unmatched. It just has a feeling, a presence no other bike has for me. And without riding either I know I would 100% sacrifice some comfort and convenience just to ride the SP. but I know the V4 Street fighter is the better bike for the type of riding I do
Really? I have an 07’ Monster S4Rs with clip ons and do 300+ mile Sundays all the time. They are 3” rise clip ons, but still much lower than handlebars. My friend Dave and I are the only ones out of the group that rip like that from 10:00AM to 5-6PM. He’s on a 22’ Indian FTR. He could probably go another 100 miles if I was down. 35 mph super twistie Kentucky roads.
The one thing that makes the Tuono relevant is price ! I couldn't afford one of the high level Ducatis, but I could afford a Tuono. Good comparison nonetheless 👍
I love the Streetfighter. I did install the Puig windscreen for a little protection but not a lot. I typically do 300+ mile days. I think this spring I will have to do a ride from Huntsville down to Miami to see you guys in person.
I’m getting one of the 2 in a couple of weeks and man I can not make up my mind when it comes to these two. I do long distance runs once in a while as the guys I ride with ride Harleys, so I’m leaning more towards the sfv4, but to me nothing looks better than a panigale.
@@Motomillion I feel like you lose too much performance with the diavel. Love the way it looks but it is not fast enough for me. Maybe when I hit 40 lol. I’ll just throw a small windscreen on the sf and hope it’s good enough for long runs.
I have gotten so used to riding super bikes that I’m sure about the naked bikes. In Texas we have a lot of straight roads. I agree the Ducati’s look amazing! But still lean to the R1 as my favorite looking bike.
I couldn’t get used to driving sports bikes. I want to be I. The saddle for 6+hour days. Was never comfortable on sports. Would never admit it to the ‘brahs’ in my 20s 🙄 hyper nakeds offer me comfort with neigh on the exact same power as sport. I’ve never once sat on my SFV4s grey/nero and sat at 280kmph while she STILL PULLED and thought you know what… this just isn’t powerful enough….😂😂 I demoed that Pani. Stunning, but, stupid hot even after 20 mins and I just wouldn’t enjoy sitting in that position on a long journey.
Manny, a small correction. The rake angle of both bikes is the same, what makes the SF more maneuverable is torque and the fine control you have over the steering with the wider handlebars, compared to the clip-ons on the Panigale.
@@Motomillion Yup, the swingarm is longer, but that doesn't alter the rake of the bike. It gives a different anti-squat characteristic, just like moving the swingarm pivot a bit higher for the MY22 Panigale and MY23 Streetfighter did. The rake is 24.5° on both bikes.
Never rode either however i disagree with the concept on aprilia because i have a new v4 tuono and it is pretty much faired and even a small screen so its more comfertable and u get some wind cover, my previous cbr hurt back and wrists if u sat on highway. Fully respect your feedback with the streetfighter as there im simply nothing to hide behind. All amazing machines. To each their own.
Such a timely video man! I was just looking for this exact comparison yesterday. I'm really leaning towards the 2023 Streetfighter V4S but I have concerns on the amount of wind if I wanna do some hoodrat freeway pulls every once in a while. Nothing like 160+ sustained but it be great to not feel like I'm gonna get pushed off the back when doing a long pull. Otherwise I mostly rip country roads, heck I live less than an hour from Tail of the Dragon so we've got great rides here.
don't know if you bought either one yet, but I just bought a 2024 streetfighter v4s when was also considering the panigale. honestly, I'm so glad I got the streetfighter. I've always had superbikes and the naked is so much more comfortable, both the riding position and seat. yea the wind is pretty crazy over 120mph i would say, but under that it's not bad at all. Like you said, it's totally fine for doing quick pulls, I wouldn't want to spend a lot of time over 120-130 but on the road I don't risk staying at those speeds for very long (like I'll do a pull to 160 but I brake back down to 80 right away). If that's how you ride I would say get it. For track riding it would honestly be pretty exhausting. I would highly recommend it though, especially the v4s with the forged wheels, the handling is so good and the bike feels as light as a 600. absolutely best handling bike I have ever ridden
Have an mt10sp now but was able to ride a lot on a friend’s sfv4s, it has very nice handling, lighter wheels, the engine is similar to a sports where you need to rev it out, stock rearsets are nice and high, bars are a nice position too. 👌🏻
Well saying the streetfighter making the tuono obsolete is a bit unfair as they're not in the same price bracket. However the streetfighter I'd consider it more of a naked than the tuono based on the difference in ergos and fairing layout.
BT-moto tune incoming to raise idle, put on cooling fans at lower temperature and give you more power and lowdown and everywhere and make it more rideable in too and go or racetrack. Also takes away some of the hot lean engine, running characteristics and written up the fuel mixture to run it cooler because of the euro five nannies.
I've done few times 460 kms in a day (230 each way) and I loved it on my Pani v4. I've tried some different Ducatis as I'm an addict. I started on the Pani and fortunately or unfortunately (depends how you see it), when I tried to add a 2nd bike to my garage I'd not like anything else. I tried the new monster, a sfv4s and a multi v4. They're all great fun but they did it right for me with the panigale. The only thing I haven't done yet is suspension which tbh nothing wrong with the Showas, just not as fancy as the ohlins so yeah I still need this. Hard to get in Australia lol.
A naked bike is fun in the 40MPH to 80MPH range especially tight twisty roads where the wider handlebars really shines. Above 100 mph (other than a short blast) is not fun as your helmet presses against your face. The Pani is better suited for that.
M1000rr competition for me I'm afraid full system and Brent tune stage 2 with sprint race filter and stacks . I've had 3 or 4 ducati now in recent years but they can be lumpy down low and they are not so comfortable and hot around seat. Still love ducati but I've moved on.
@@Motomillion certainly does for me and I’ve owned a v4 sp (first year).😀 only Ducati in recent years that has given me a massive buzz was my v2 1299 final edition with full system on it. The sound alone was epic. And my 998 final edition with full terminogini system too when I was a younger man but I had a lot of connections to Carl fogarty at the time so it meant a lot to me. I guess based on what I’ve seen you post you are just very biased towards Ducati and that is fine. But honestly - every time I look at the m1000rr before I get on it I get lightheaded as it looks like a moto gp bike and makes me feel special. 🤘🏻
The Tuono yes. With all the troubles of Aprilia ownership (lack of after sales service, lack of dealer support, lack of dealer knowledge), do you really want to spend all that money?
I have a BMW S1000R and an Aprilia Tuono V4, and for sure the beemer is much more refined, capable, handles better, and a better daily. But the V4 sounds so good. You just wouldn't want it as your only bike.... It gets way too hot in traffic, and I agree the dealer support isn't the best buy any measure. But that sound :)
Always great vlogs M,🤛🏽👍🏽, such good content very technical info. Be great to see some older Ducati’s / reviews maybe like 1199 etc . Thanks man awesome channel. 🙏🏽😎🔥🔥🔥
Nobody really wants to talk about this but 200hp on a naked bike is overkill. Heck, 200hp on the street is overkill on any bike. However, bikes are a vanity purchase so I guess it's all good. When you're dead, it's for a long time.
What other bikes should we compare! And let us know which bike would you guys choose between the Panigale and Streetfighter 👇
Kawasaki zx10r vs v4
M1000R vs S1000RR 😁
Or M1000R Comp vs V4S
Super Duke vs Tuono V4
Fortunate enough to own RSV4 Factory, V4R, SFV4 and Tuono Factory. SFV4>RSV4Factory>TuonoV4>V4R, just my opinion. The SFV4 is the greatest bike of all time.
Nice line up!
V4 fan. I really get it. I only owned the RSV4 and the SFV4. Thank you for the ranking and confirming my current bike is best :)
As someone who has seen and rode the @motomollion StreetFighter V4. Pictures and videos don't do justice.Your builds are next level. They are pieces of art. After I got bit by the Ducati bug, I couldn't decide which one to go with and ended up settling with a Panigale V4. When its cooler, I will ride it down to Miami and that would be the longest ride for me!
Can't wait to have you here with your Panigale V4 Ruzbeh!
It’s like you made this video for me!!! Hell yes. That’s a big question I’ve been trying to figure out in the last few weeks
I sat on the street fighter v4 today and it was super tall! I’m 6’ 1” (1.83 meter) and I couldn’t flat foot with normal shoes! I had no idea the riding position was still heavily skewed to sport bike geometry vs bikes like the Ducati monster or a triumph speed triple where you really sit in the bike
I also saw the V4 SP though… and I will say that just for me… the presence that bike has is unmatched. It just has a feeling, a presence no other bike has for me. And without riding either I know I would 100% sacrifice some comfort and convenience just to ride the SP. but I know the V4 Street fighter is the better bike for the type of riding I do
@@MarinaraTrackDaysSame here. Which one did you choose? I am 1.71m tall
@@FelipeMussiFerreira funny enough, neither. Bought an Aprilia RSV4 RF 😂
The Streetfighter V4 is just amazing. Longest day I've done is 190 miles. Just a pleasure.
Fantastic machines! Still puts a smile on my face every time I ride it!
Really? I have an 07’ Monster S4Rs with clip ons and do 300+ mile Sundays all the time. They are 3” rise clip ons, but still much lower than handlebars. My friend Dave and I are the only ones out of the group that rip like that from 10:00AM to 5-6PM. He’s on a 22’ Indian FTR. He could probably go another 100 miles if I was down. 35 mph super twistie Kentucky roads.
The one thing that makes the Tuono relevant is price ! I couldn't afford one of the high level Ducatis, but I could afford a Tuono. Good comparison nonetheless 👍
That is a very good point. $16k for entry into a very special machine is definitely a bargain these days.
Plus the Aprilia v angle and firing order makes their v4 sound better to most people's ears ..
Agree there@@lordgibbness
I love the Streetfighter. I did install the Puig windscreen for a little protection but not a lot. I typically do 300+ mile days.
I think this spring I will have to do a ride from Huntsville down to Miami to see you guys in person.
what about wind after 120mph? xd
I’m getting one of the 2 in a couple of weeks and man I can not make up my mind when it comes to these two. I do long distance runs once in a while as the guys I ride with ride Harleys, so I’m leaning more towards the sfv4, but to me nothing looks better than a panigale.
If you do long distance, you need the Diavel V4!
Same thing here.
@@Motomillion I feel like you lose too much performance with the diavel. Love the way it looks but it is not fast enough for me. Maybe when I hit 40 lol. I’ll just throw a small windscreen on the sf and hope it’s good enough for long runs.
@@rubyv4swhat did you go for in the end?
@@markholmes5695 2024 street fighter v4s in grey. After testing both of them, getting the panigale didn’t make sense.
Great video 🔥
Thank you! 🙌
I have gotten so used to riding super bikes that I’m sure about the naked bikes. In Texas we have a lot of straight roads. I agree the Ducati’s look amazing! But still lean to the R1 as my favorite looking bike.
The R1's are great lookers too!
H2R & Panigale 😍
I couldn’t get used to driving sports bikes. I want to be I. The saddle for 6+hour days. Was never comfortable on sports. Would never admit it to the ‘brahs’ in my 20s 🙄 hyper nakeds offer me comfort with neigh on the exact same power as sport. I’ve never once sat on my SFV4s grey/nero and sat at 280kmph while she STILL PULLED and thought you know what… this just isn’t powerful enough….😂😂
I demoed that Pani. Stunning, but, stupid hot even after 20 mins and I just wouldn’t enjoy sitting in that position on a long journey.
Great video! Really like the content with the information you are putting out!
I appreciate that!
Manny, a small correction. The rake angle of both bikes is the same, what makes the SF more maneuverable is torque and the fine control you have over the steering with the wider handlebars, compared to the clip-ons on the Panigale.
We need to check this because the suspension geometry is altered. The rear swingarm is .75 inches longer than the Panigale V4.
@@Motomillion Yup, the swingarm is longer, but that doesn't alter the rake of the bike. It gives a different anti-squat characteristic, just like moving the swingarm pivot a bit higher for the MY22 Panigale and MY23 Streetfighter did. The rake is 24.5° on both bikes.
both are great bikes, i went for streetfighter due to comfort, west coast riding, and cost
Can't go wrong with that choice!
Streetfighter v4 brooo 🔥🔥🔥🔥 shessshhh🔥
Never rode either however i disagree with the concept on aprilia because i have a new v4 tuono and it is pretty much faired and even a small screen so its more comfertable and u get some wind cover, my previous cbr hurt back and wrists if u sat on highway. Fully respect your feedback with the streetfighter as there im simply nothing to hide behind. All amazing machines. To each their own.
The Ape is great, as I have mentioned before, the ownership experience from Aprilia is not so great.
Such a timely video man! I was just looking for this exact comparison yesterday. I'm really leaning towards the 2023 Streetfighter V4S but I have concerns on the amount of wind if I wanna do some hoodrat freeway pulls every once in a while. Nothing like 160+ sustained but it be great to not feel like I'm gonna get pushed off the back when doing a long pull.
Otherwise I mostly rip country roads, heck I live less than an hour from Tail of the Dragon so we've got great rides here.
Pick to see what riding you do the most. Once in a while highway runs are okay.
don't know if you bought either one yet, but I just bought a 2024 streetfighter v4s when was also considering the panigale. honestly, I'm so glad I got the streetfighter. I've always had superbikes and the naked is so much more comfortable, both the riding position and seat. yea the wind is pretty crazy over 120mph i would say, but under that it's not bad at all. Like you said, it's totally fine for doing quick pulls, I wouldn't want to spend a lot of time over 120-130 but on the road I don't risk staying at those speeds for very long (like I'll do a pull to 160 but I brake back down to 80 right away). If that's how you ride I would say get it. For track riding it would honestly be pretty exhausting.
I would highly recommend it though, especially the v4s with the forged wheels, the handling is so good and the bike feels as light as a 600. absolutely best handling bike I have ever ridden
@@trevorbye6965 Thanks for the feedback man. I ended up buying the 2023 Streetfighter V4SP2 and I absolutely love it!
I’m fortunate to have a SF SP and a new V4R. Best of both worlds!
Quiet the line up!
@@Motomillion also have a V2 Bayliss and V4 Pikes Peak Multistrada. Ducati fan boy for sure! 🤣
Have an mt10sp now but was able to ride a lot on a friend’s sfv4s, it has very nice handling, lighter wheels, the engine is similar to a sports where you need to rev it out, stock rearsets are nice and high, bars are a nice position too. 👌🏻
Thanks for sharing!
@@Motomillion have you tried changing the sprocket of the sf to a lower gearing? Does that help with the low end?
Farthest trip I did on my R1 was LA to Phoenix, AZ and back in one weekend 800 miles
That's a good distance!
Well saying the streetfighter making the tuono obsolete is a bit unfair as they're not in the same price bracket.
However the streetfighter I'd consider it more of a naked than the tuono based on the difference in ergos and fairing layout.
May want to look up the ownership experiences of each brand, the price difference may give you a peace of mind.
BT-moto tune incoming to raise idle, put on cooling fans at lower temperature and give you more power and lowdown and everywhere and make it more rideable in too and go or racetrack. Also takes away some of the hot lean engine, running characteristics and written up the fuel mixture to run it cooler because of the euro five nannies.
I've done few times 460 kms in a day (230 each way) and I loved it on my Pani v4. I've tried some different Ducatis as I'm an addict. I started on the Pani and fortunately or unfortunately (depends how you see it), when I tried to add a 2nd bike to my garage I'd not like anything else. I tried the new monster, a sfv4s and a multi v4. They're all great fun but they did it right for me with the panigale. The only thing I haven't done yet is suspension which tbh nothing wrong with the Showas, just not as fancy as the ohlins so yeah I still need this. Hard to get in Australia lol.
Goes to show everyone how amazing these bikes are!
You have a video putting exhaust on SFV4
Yes, we installed the Arrow. Check out our channel.
wow great bikes, i chose the streetfighter based on ergos and cost !
Right on!
@motomillion did you have the water pump issue with the SFV4S or panigale?
No issues. However our Panigale V4 SP2 is still leaking.
Streetfighter is the best bike I’ve ever owned 💯
Whats the next project bike?
We are still working on the M1000RR and the Panigale V4 SP2. There are a few candidates for our next addition to the fleet, but have not decided yet.
Can you compare about other top superbikes out there? Like rsv4, panigale v4, s1000, fireblade?
Yes, definitely. We would love to compare what makes each bike unique!
Is the both bikes goes hot or the water cooler works good with the 4 cylinder ?
Wet and Dry Clutch .. can u explain which is suitable for country like have 35 degree celsius temperature..thanks
Streetfighter V4 ❤
Why you are not considering the aprillia rsv4 factory.
Are these 2 bikes reliable? And also how is the fuel consumption? It would be nice if they had a fuel gauge.
Do you make monster parts? Could you customize a monster for the channel?
What about a short rider like 5.5ft on a streetfighter, can manage it
Should be okay. Just do a lot of slow speed practice to make sure you are comfortable with slow speed maneuvers.
Can you ship Ducati custom parts to India, & one more thing why diavel V4 is more expensive than Street fighter V4 ?
Unfortunately, India is one of the only countries we do not ship to. Diavel V4 is a tad more expensive the Streetfighter V4
A naked bike is fun in the 40MPH to 80MPH range especially tight twisty roads where the wider handlebars really shines.
Above 100 mph (other than a short blast) is not fun as your helmet presses against your face. The Pani is better suited for that.
It sure is!
If you could only have one bike for the rest of your life which would it be ?? (Any make or model)
Such a hard thing to pick. Definitely a Ducati with a dry clutch.
M1000rr competition for me I'm afraid full system and Brent tune stage 2 with sprint race filter and stacks . I've had 3 or 4 ducati now in recent years but they can be lumpy down low and they are not so comfortable and hot around seat. Still love ducati but I've moved on.
Fair points. But the M1000RR doesn’t give you the sense of occasion of a Ducati.
@@Motomillion certainly does for me and I’ve owned a v4 sp (first year).😀 only Ducati in recent years that has given me a massive buzz was my v2 1299 final edition with full system on it. The sound alone was epic. And my 998 final edition with full terminogini system too when I was a younger man but I had a lot of connections to Carl fogarty at the time so it meant a lot to me.
I guess based on what I’ve seen you post you are just very biased towards Ducati and that is fine. But honestly - every time I look at the m1000rr before I get on it I get lightheaded as it looks like a moto gp bike and makes me feel special. 🤘🏻
Lol Mani out here calling the Aprilia obsolete 😂
The Tuono yes. With all the troubles of Aprilia ownership (lack of after sales service, lack of dealer support, lack of dealer knowledge), do you really want to spend all that money?
I have a BMW S1000R and an Aprilia Tuono V4, and for sure the beemer is much more refined, capable, handles better, and a better daily. But the V4 sounds so good. You just wouldn't want it as your only bike.... It gets way too hot in traffic, and I agree the dealer support isn't the best buy any measure. But that sound :)
I want both 🙏
Don't we all? (:
Always great vlogs M,🤛🏽👍🏽, such good content very technical info. Be great to see some older Ducati’s / reviews maybe like 1199 etc . Thanks man awesome channel. 🙏🏽😎🔥🔥🔥
Thank you! I would love to do w 1299 Superleggera revisited video!
That would be a good vlog Mani 👍🏽, Take it easy bro keep up the awesome work 🤛🏽🙏🏽😎🔥🔥
Why no H2R or any kawasaki builds
Unfortunately the H2 is not our area of interest. Kawasaki needs to update their Zx10R line up to be relevant to the competition.
What about hayabusa? And why Kawasaki cannot be include in competition when the fastest bike is h2r
Nobody really wants to talk about this but 200hp on a naked bike is overkill. Heck, 200hp on the street is overkill on any bike.
However, bikes are a vanity purchase so I guess it's all good.
When you're dead, it's for a long time.
Pikes Peak by rule could not be a superbike, that is why they ran the Multi I believe
They ran Honda superbikes on it before. Now no more bikes at all.
Comfortable
We need some gsxr content 🤧
We need an updated Gsx-R
Too bad I can only afford a 1/18 model of either
What about R1 2016 ?
Panigale is great bike but it has heat issue 🥵😕
Not an issue.
❤❤muito linda
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There’s opinions, then there’s Mani’s POV which holds more value IMO. ¡habla esa charla! Mani! 🫡