This has to be the most complete breakdown ive seen! The absolute authority on this topic. Awesome information, great questions, great script... Killed it Manny!
On my '22 V4 I went with Termi slip on, intake, and the Up Map. I absolutely love this setup and never had any issues. The bike runs much cooler, smoother, and it's quicker. The Termi is deep and loud, but not obnoxious. Highly recommend it.
Akra high is the worst 8000 euro and NON SOUND and is too large if you sgrat sgrat seee you exaust !!!!! , maybe hp ??? Termi and Arrow and other slip-on low position no way , SPARK -DYNO E GRIDO, slip-on 225-226hp on my euro 5 and if you sgrat don't touch the ground is internal at the rear seat great no ? Dyno is development after the come out of the euro 5 2022 model ....witth ECU tuning in the price , THE LOUDEST no way .... i have 3 of this arrow termi and spark , sorry but i don't want to reply but i can't post my opinion in the classical way , mistery of youtube .
MOTO MILLION IS THE MAN BEHIND THOSE EXOTIC BIKES OF 650IB,JARETT,IMKAY AND SO ON THANKS FOR THE GREAT CONTRIBUTION,I JUST LOVE WATCHING YOU DO THE MAGIC FOR THOSE BIKES
I have to add that I think you are producing some really great content, full of useful information and well presented. If you do take your bike on track, which is the very best place to enjoy them, then I’d love to see some content on that. 👍 if you are not tracking them then why the hell not?!? 😂
@@Motomillion That would be great. I track my SP2 but it’s a lot of bike and I am very tempted to get the RC-8C or Kramer GP2-890RR. Since taking the SP2 on track, I’ve pretty much lost interest in riding it on the road and have an old SportClassic for that.
Spark seem to be getting popular here in european race series too. Not sure if its a product u would consider testing, obvs the 4 u list are best of the best regardless.
We take into consideration of the quality of the items, and after sales support as well. A product is not just the physical item. I think the big four we mentioned are above and beyond any other brand currently in all aspects.
Very informative video. Any idea if any of the systems could be adapted to the Diavel V4? or are there other options coming up instead of the Akrapovic? I quite fancy an under seat twin pipe myself..
Hi Manny Great vid and info. I had a 2019 V4 with a low Akra full system. Have replaced the 2019 V4 to a 2023 V4 model. Will the 2019 Akra fit into the 2023 model?
We will once the platform has more support. We just received our shipment of the brand new Termignoni dragster exhausts for the Diavel V4 which can be seen here : www.motomillion.com/products/termignoni-4-uscite-dragster-exhaust-for-diavel-v4
Hey Manny, I'm most likely going with an Akra low mount exhaust in July, for my 2021 Streetfighter V4S. I'd like to know, is there a noticeable sound increase between stock vs Akra full ti underbelly system? Secondly, could you rate the volume levels from 1-10 for each of the choices in the video?
Hey Karl, there is definitely a noticeable noise diffrence. Volume ratings : Akrapovic 7.5/10 (both low mount and high mount) Akrapovic Slip On 7/10 Arrow 8/10 SC Slip ons 10/10 Termignoni Racing Slip On 7/10
I just bought a 2023 street fighter v4s and wanted to know if upmat is available tor that model year or do I need to wait for the update Also can I install an upmap without upgrading the exhaust or is it necessary to changed the exhaust to install upmap
Hi! Why no BlackLine Termi for the SFV4? Why you choose the titanium color? I also have the SFV4 with the gold Marchesinis and a lot of Carbon. And now I can't decide between the black line or the titanium slip on Termi. I had the Arrow on my Panigale V4S, which was too loud for me.
@@Motomillion That's my problem. I can't make up my mind. I think titanium provides a good contrast to the bike, where everything is red and black anyway. On the other hand, the black Termi matches the rest of the bike and looks classy. But I wonder if there won't be too much black on the bike. And I'm afraid that the black Termi is more susceptible to stones.
I think if your serious about upgrading your exhaust, try to hear it in real life, as a lot of these videos doesn’t capture the true sound, I recently upgraded my exhaust and was interested in the termi and ackro systems, hearing them both side by side the Akro sounded much better imo. 😎👍🤟
We try to do our best to capture the true sound. It is often hard to see these bikes out in the wild, let alone have the luxury to hear them with different exhausts.
I had purchased the high mount full Akrapovic exhaust...just waiting to install it, but I was concerned about the volume just at idle. In your videos, it does not seem too bad,....but it is hard to really tell from a video volume. So how loud is it at idle? I feel for a stock bike, my 2023 Panigale V4S is fairly loud already after putting her in gear...how mad will my neighbors be with the new full Akra w/o the DB killers installed vs the stock exhaust? Thank you.
Unfortunately, I already own the exhaust....sitting in the box, so I cannot back out now, plus I love the look :) ....but from what I read after installation the neutral cylinder deactivation no longer exists...?...so it would be loud right away at start up vs stock where is it quiet in neutral. But thank you very much for your thoughts on the volume. I always enjoy all of your videos.@@Motomillion
Mani. I want to update my SFV4S 21 to the new 23/24. My big question, the 21 full Ti low Akrapovic exhaust fits the SFV4S? I reaaly hate the look of the upper akra exhaust.
One of them is made in Italy, the other one is made a replica Akrapovic that is made in China. You decide. We will start offering MIVV on our website starting this week!
The video could have been 2-3 hours long if we mentioned every version of each brand. This was more of a general overview of the brands, rather than each option they offer.
Hey Motomillion I need some help. I buy already slip on from Akrapovic my streetfighter, but I found them much too loud. Can you recommend me one exhaust is not so loud of a Akrapovic. I was thinking about the Terminogni
you need a t800 upmap or dealer flash via race kit or custom map this bike are temprementaal as hell without the proper setup without maps your not making thhe right power you might even make less then stock but the oem race kit is deffinitly the best hassle free instalation and operation but quite abit of money.
It does not make less power for sure, we have tested it on the dyno back in 2019. As long as the check engine light is not illuminated it makes more power even without a map.
Mani actually mentioned it in a take that didn't make it into the video! An amazing system, and one of the only true 4 exit systems! we love it, and it sounds killer
The video could have been 2-3 hours long if we mentioned every version of each brand. This was more of a general overview of the brands, rather than each option they offer.
AkApovic!! Like, crap… 🙈 Shame about Titanium costs plus Ducati tax. It didn’t stop me getting one of course. Termignoni are supposed to be very good though, aside from early Upmap issues. Excellent guide, apart from pronunciation. 😂 In Europe the db level can be an issue with some of these. Curious about Vandemon. I was very interested in SC pPoject but could not get any response at all from them.
We have had no issues with the UpMap from Termi. You just need to read the exact details, people forget to unplug their O2 sensors for some of the maps that require it that may run into issues. We definitely would not consider any other brands than these four that we mention. We went over the reason for what we chose in the video.
@@Motomillion I was just going from what I had seen online and an updated map that they produced. No personal experience and you should know better than me Apparently some people had issues earlier on with Euro 5 bikes. You know how it is on the Internet though… To be clear, I do not disagree with any of the information you have provided, with the exception of how you pronounce Akrapovic. 😂
The SC is the loudest usually, Arrow is pretty loud too, Akrapovic is the least loud, but to be honest they are all loud, just one louder than the other.
Which exhaust has the best tone/sound? I mean perhaps SC is louder than Arrow hut Arrow might sound better? If you had to put them in an order which has the best tone?
Very hard question to answer. I think there are many that sound good. The Arrow and Termi have to be at the top of the list because of the value factor.
How can anyone enjoy the noise of a fry clutch? It literally drowns out the noise of the engine and the pipe - a huge reason why they’re fun to ride/own. Am I missing something??
Hello guys, i need help. I ordered a sc project S1 exhaust for my Ducati StreetFighter V4S 2022. scProject recommends their map with XECU Revolution Tuning. have you had positive or negative feedback? I was thinking of maybe getting Upmap but they don't have my exhaust. Tank you !!
Which bike do you want us to cover next? Let us know! 👇
Definitely the Japanese bikes.
Im a massive aprilia fan. Would love to see what u could do with one. That or RRRSP.
Maybe soon!
The R1 of course ❤❤ thank you for another great and informative video!
Dunno if it has been done previously, may i suggest a Ducati Diavel SVP. Cheers fm West Oz 😆
This has to be the most complete breakdown ive seen! The absolute authority on this topic. Awesome information, great questions, great script... Killed it Manny!
Thank you for your kind words!
On my '22 V4 I went with Termi slip on, intake, and the Up Map. I absolutely love this setup and never had any issues. The bike runs much cooler, smoother, and it's quicker. The Termi is deep and loud, but not obnoxious. Highly recommend it.
Thank you for the feedback Jason!
This is what I'm getting on my 23 model hopefully just waiting on Up Map to finish making the map
Akra high is the worst 8000 euro and NON SOUND and is too large if you sgrat sgrat seee you exaust !!!!! , maybe hp ??? Termi and Arrow and other slip-on low position no way , SPARK -DYNO E GRIDO, slip-on 225-226hp on my euro 5 and if you sgrat don't touch the ground is internal at the rear seat great no ? Dyno is development after the come out of the euro 5 2022 model ....witth ECU tuning in the price , THE LOUDEST no way .... i have 3 of this arrow termi and spark , sorry but i don't want to reply but i can't post my opinion in the classical way , mistery of youtube .
Got Akrapovic, Sprint Filter and UpMap on my Panigale V4 and it works perfect 👍
Nice 👍
Up map is the worst trash on the market
Thank you Mani. Just bought a 2023 v4 and this video answers so many questions I had.
Glad I could help!
Picked up a 2023 V4 and the titanium arrow, sprint filter, and brentune are sitting at home waiting to be put on 😛
Congrats on the bike Kyle!
MOTO MILLION IS THE MAN BEHIND THOSE EXOTIC BIKES OF 650IB,JARETT,IMKAY AND SO ON THANKS FOR THE GREAT CONTRIBUTION,I JUST LOVE WATCHING YOU DO THE MAGIC FOR THOSE BIKES
Thank you for the support!
Great video guys! Akra and termi are two of my all time favs :)
Thank you Jaret!
The best exhaust video on the net.
Very detailed.
Easy to understand
Wow, thanks! Happy to see you liked it and thank you for taking your time to comment!
This is helpful. Would really appreciate a dry clutch comparison too.
Noted!
I see you Mani these videos are getting better and better,I think this channel is headed up.
Thank you! We're working hard to keep putting out good content for you guys!
Thank you for the the information manny!🙏🏽 it answered every question I had about getting the exhaust for my new Panigale V4
Our pleasure!
Excellent video and I’m glad you brought up the header issue they’re just not worth the cost unless you love the akra system which ImO sounds the best
Thank you! Need to make sure everyone has the correct expectations.
Some of these exhaust worth more than my bike 😂 “Goals” 💪💪
Wishing you the best!
A very informative video indeed. I love this channel. Cool bikes with great info, no fluff.
Keep up the good work.
Much appreciated!
This is such an excellent and articulate video!
Glad you think so!
Manny doing an excellent job as usual.
Thank you!
Great review!!
Termi vs Akra, which one is louder ? I want good sounds but not too loud.
The Akra is loud for sure, Termi underbelly slip on is a sensible loud.
Great work 👏💯
When are you guys gonna on Kawasaki ?
Kawasaki needs to update their superbike for us to consider it. Unfortunately Yamaha is the only relevant Japanese brand.
Such a great video!!!! Thank you for this!!!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Outstanding video 👍🏻
Thank you! 👍
I have to add that I think you are producing some really great content, full of useful information and well presented. If you do take your bike on track, which is the very best place to enjoy them, then I’d love to see some content on that. 👍 if you are not tracking them then why the hell not?!? 😂
Thank you! Time restricted to be able to get on track, but maybe soon we will have track content!
@@Motomillion That would be great. I track my SP2 but it’s a lot of bike and I am very tempted to get the RC-8C or Kramer GP2-890RR. Since taking the SP2 on track, I’ve pretty much lost interest in riding it on the road and have an old SportClassic for that.
Great video Thank you for the detailed explanations.
Glad you liked the video Michael! Lets get that Streetfighter V4 running right asap!
Spark seem to be getting popular here in european race series too. Not sure if its a product u would consider testing, obvs the 4 u list are best of the best regardless.
We take into consideration of the quality of the items, and after sales support as well. A product is not just the physical item. I think the big four we mentioned are above and beyond any other brand currently in all aspects.
@@Motomillion understood, very goos point.
Very good information as usual. Do you know if BT has suppliers in Europe?
Thank you! We ship to Europe regularly.
Very informative video. Any idea if any of the systems could be adapted to the Diavel V4? or are there other options coming up instead of the Akrapovic? I quite fancy an under seat twin pipe myself..
Not that we know of, the Termignoni Dragster is a great option for the Diavel V4 and available in our warehouses already!
Nice video. Only 1 things, Upmap has Mtorque map, that makes full torque. But in your video you told that upmap isn’t sufficient, why?
It is sufficient, but it does not remove all restrictions.
what a great video, well done!
Thank you very much!
Hi Manny
Great vid and info.
I had a 2019 V4 with a low Akra full system. Have replaced the 2019 V4 to a 2023 V4 model.
Will the 2019 Akra fit into the 2023 model?
It will not because of the brackets. The brackets are different because of the slight suspension changes.
This is perfect. Thanks Mani.
You're welcome 😊
And again!
Great explanation
Great video 😊
Thank you guys! Glad to see the content is proving useful!
Be great if you could cover the Diavel V4 exhaust options! Cheers guys
We will once the platform has more support. We just received our shipment of the brand new Termignoni dragster exhausts for the Diavel V4 which can be seen here : www.motomillion.com/products/termignoni-4-uscite-dragster-exhaust-for-diavel-v4
@@Motomillion platform as in the bike itself? Its still too new and you're waiting for more mods to be available? cheers
you failed to mention, that stainless steel can handle heatcycles a lot better and may last a lot longer than a titanium exhaust.
Great video Thank you for the detailed explanations. P 👋👋👋👋👋👋👋
Glad it was helpful!
what a brilliant video
Glad you enjoyed it!
Hey Manny, I'm most likely going with an Akra low mount exhaust in July, for my 2021 Streetfighter V4S. I'd like to know, is there a noticeable sound increase between stock vs Akra full ti underbelly system? Secondly, could you rate the volume levels from 1-10 for each of the choices in the video?
Hey Karl, there is definitely a noticeable noise diffrence.
Volume ratings :
Akrapovic 7.5/10 (both low mount and high mount)
Akrapovic Slip On 7/10
Arrow 8/10
SC Slip ons 10/10
Termignoni Racing Slip On 7/10
@Motomillion thanks Manny, that helps with my choice.
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I just bought a 2023 street fighter v4s and wanted to know if upmat is available tor that model year or do I need to wait for the update
Also can I install an upmap without upgrading the exhaust or is it necessary to changed the exhaust to install upmap
Great video! 👍
Thank you! 👍
Hi! Why no BlackLine Termi for the SFV4? Why you choose the titanium color? I also have the SFV4 with the gold Marchesinis and a lot of Carbon. And now I can't decide between the black line or the titanium slip on Termi. I had the Arrow on my Panigale V4S, which was too loud for me.
Chose the one you like in terms of color!
@@Motomillion That's my problem. I can't make up my mind. I think titanium provides a good contrast to the bike, where everything is red and black anyway. On the other hand, the black Termi matches the rest of the bike and looks classy. But I wonder if there won't be too much black on the bike. And I'm afraid that the black Termi is more susceptible to stones.
Great vid! 🙌
Appreciate it!
Great video manny, i actually went for titanium van demon slip ons from australia and sound is unreal
I think if your serious about upgrading your exhaust, try to hear it in real life, as a lot of these videos doesn’t capture the true sound, I recently upgraded my exhaust and was interested in the termi and ackro systems, hearing them both side by side the Akro sounded much better imo. 😎👍🤟
We try to do our best to capture the true sound. It is often hard to see these bikes out in the wild, let alone have the luxury to hear them with different exhausts.
Awesome post thanks
You're welcome
Whats the difference Termi or Akra tunes? Is one better than the other?
Can the termi up map suit the other brand exhausts?
I had purchased the high mount full Akrapovic exhaust...just waiting to install it, but I was concerned about the volume just at idle. In your videos, it does not seem too bad,....but it is hard to really tell from a video volume. So how loud is it at idle? I feel for a stock bike, my 2023 Panigale V4S is fairly loud already after putting her in gear...how mad will my neighbors be with the new full Akra w/o the DB killers installed vs the stock exhaust? Thank you.
It is not the loudest thing out there, but if you are concerned about noise, I would keep the exhaust stock.
Unfortunately, I already own the exhaust....sitting in the box, so I cannot back out now, plus I love the look :) ....but from what I read after installation the neutral cylinder deactivation no longer exists...?...so it would be loud right away at start up vs stock where is it quiet in neutral. But thank you very much for your thoughts on the volume. I always enjoy all of your videos.@@Motomillion
Mani. I want to update my SFV4S 21 to the new 23/24. My big question, the 21 full Ti low Akrapovic exhaust fits the SFV4S? I reaaly hate the look of the upper akra exhaust.
Yes there is a low full akra for the SF V4 models.
Sc s1 is very loud but the dual high mount isn’t loud at all .
The dual high mount is pretty loud, as long as it is not the road verison.
Do I need an eliminator when I upload the T800 upmap? Or does the T800 deactivate the engine light? Or do I need Eliminator AND Termi upmap?
Servo eliminator will not be needed with an UpMap.
@@Motomillion thanks
Should I wait until the bike is broken in before getting the exhaust?
Just got a 2024 Panigale V4, I dont see SC project as an option for my 24 V4? will it fit or no?
They have not confirmed fitment.
I’m thinking of getting a Mivv exhaust or Vandemon for my SFV2… Any thoughts on those options? Thx.
One of them is made in Italy, the other one is made a replica Akrapovic that is made in China. You decide. We will start offering MIVV on our website starting this week!
Why no 4 Uscite? It sounds the most brutal of all I think. My bike has it for that reason, very anti social :D
The video could have been 2-3 hours long if we mentioned every version of each brand. This was more of a general overview of the brands, rather than each option they offer.
Good job
Thank you!
Hey Motomillion
I need some help. I buy already slip on from Akrapovic my streetfighter, but I found them much too loud. Can you recommend me one exhaust is not so loud of a Akrapovic.
I was thinking about the Terminogni
They are pretty similar. Did you try to put in the dB Killers in the Akra to quiet it down?
you need a t800 upmap or dealer flash via race kit or custom map this bike are temprementaal as hell without the proper setup without maps your not making thhe right power you might even make less then stock but the oem race kit is deffinitly the best hassle free instalation and operation but quite abit of money.
You definitely don't need a upmap as it's the worst trash available on the market. You need OFT or Xecutuning
It does not make less power for sure, we have tested it on the dyno back in 2019. As long as the check engine light is not illuminated it makes more power even without a map.
So I don’t need a servo elim if I’m going to get a brentune flash?
That is correct.
excellent 👍👍
Thank you! Cheers!
What wheels are those? Interesting color.
BST Rapid Tek. They are carbon.
I have the CS Exhaust slipons on my 22 V4 Streetfighter. LOUD!
You didn’t mention the Termi 4excite system?
Mani actually mentioned it in a take that didn't make it into the video! An amazing system, and one of the only true 4 exit systems! we love it, and it sounds killer
The video could have been 2-3 hours long if we mentioned every version of each brand. This was more of a general overview of the brands, rather than each option they offer.
May I ask? You can put undertail exhaust on SFV4?
Yes, we’ve already verified that the Akrapovic undertail fits.
Yes, we’ve already verified that the Akrapovic undertail fits.
Just heard from SC Project they dont make anything for my 23 SFV4SP2. 😭
AkApovic!! Like, crap… 🙈 Shame about Titanium costs plus Ducati tax. It didn’t stop me getting one of course. Termignoni are supposed to be very good though, aside from early Upmap issues. Excellent guide, apart from pronunciation. 😂 In Europe the db level can be an issue with some of these. Curious about Vandemon. I was very interested in SC pPoject but could not get any response at all from them.
We have had no issues with the UpMap from Termi. You just need to read the exact details, people forget to unplug their O2 sensors for some of the maps that require it that may run into issues. We definitely would not consider any other brands than these four that we mention. We went over the reason for what we chose in the video.
@@Motomillion I was just going from what I had seen online and an updated map that they produced. No personal experience and you should know better than me Apparently some people had issues earlier on with Euro 5 bikes. You know how it is on the Internet though… To be clear, I do not disagree with any of the information you have provided, with the exception of how you pronounce Akrapovic. 😂
8k for a bike exhaust 😂😂😂😂
Gotta pay for quality
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How loud are the akrapovic systems compared to the sc and arrow?
The SC is the loudest usually, Arrow is pretty loud too, Akrapovic is the least loud, but to be honest they are all loud, just one louder than the other.
Which exhaust has the best tone/sound? I mean perhaps SC is louder than Arrow hut Arrow might sound better? If you had to put them in an order which has the best tone?
Very hard question to answer. I think there are many that sound good. The Arrow and Termi have to be at the top of the list because of the value factor.
Dope👍
Thanks 🔥
How can anyone enjoy the noise of a fry clutch? It literally drowns out the noise of the engine and the pipe - a huge reason why they’re fun to ride/own. Am I missing something??
Two ears, one hears the exhaust, the other the dry clutch.
The Honda CBR 1000RR please ❤
Ey ey dont mix balls and nuts 😂😂😂
Termi is v2. Akro is v4. Easy.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Nic3
Th@nk you!
Dry clutch makes it sound like pure crap cant even hear the cool exhaust note arrow all the way sound an looks nicest
Hello guys, i need help.
I ordered a sc project S1 exhaust for my Ducati StreetFighter V4S 2022. scProject recommends their map with XECU Revolution Tuning. have you had positive or negative feedback?
I was thinking of maybe getting Upmap but they don't have my exhaust.
Tank you !!