it's also likely that the endoskeleton is limited while the skin is on it simply because if it moved too quickly or with too much force it could rip the skin.
I like to think that every terminator movie set after T2 is nothing but a set of fever dreams of the half dead Miles Dyson as he waits to detonate in his lab. It's just a man worrying that his death is meaningless so he has dreams about this future that make less and less sense as he dies.
I always thought when Terminator went down in T2 and woke back up it was just an emergency backup power, like a temporary spare battery. It even says something like rerouting power on screen when it cuts to his "Termo-vision" during that scene.
The "rerouting" made me think it's still using the same power source and that it just has the direct power line severed. It had to spend time repurposing other circuitry to use that way and that's why it went offline.
Love the fact that the T1000 was so intelligent and terrifying that skynet themselves feared them, would be cool to see a rogue one just straight up decided to change sides
Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles had one episode where they explain that the time travel isn't perfect with one Terminator ending up in the 1800s and having to wait in hiding for it's target. If this can happen then there may be even more timelines where a Terminator ends up in the wrong time...perhaps drastically affecting history 🤔
Temperature differentials would explain why a nearby extreme heat source would give them energy, but being inside of the heat source would destroy them. Being next to a heat source would cause a temperature differential, and as nature wants to equalize those temperatures, the transfer of heat from the hot source to the cold source creates a potential for energy collection. Inside the heat source however, everything would just become hot and eventually melt down into its base components.
I get it but Terninator never had the most solid of bases. The endoskeleton could be treated so that it doesn't burn like steel. So, the endoskeleton "on fire" would be running hot but not burning alive. T-800's are made to fight in the war, so it is resistant to high temperatures. It can resist fire, since it's not as hot as plasma - but molten metal would overwhelm it.
The effect this references is the thermoelectric effect or Seebeck effect, which is how TEC or Peltier devices electrically transfer heat making one side hot and the other cold. There are even fans for wood burning stoves that use a Peltier to power fans from the hot metal of the stove body to push the heat around the room. Side note: TECs are incredibly inefficient, any technology claiming to harness Peltier devices for cooling, heating, or power, especially any that claim to be "green" or "new and improved" are 99.999% BS. Though, depending on the application, they are a viable way of harvesting power from a temperature gradient provided you dont need much instantaneous current/voltage.
no one ever understood the terminators eating candy still in the wrapper, until John Connor, while dismantling one, found a sticker on its back saying "powered by Mr Fusion"
I loved the instance of the T-1000 in SCC, Skynet literally kept it locked up in a box at the bottom of the Ocean guarded by two Endos because it didn't trust it.
Having little continuity by using branching timelines to me is potentially a great idea, as it allowed shows like The Sarah Connor Chronicles to run completely independently of the main franchise yet still have the option of joining a larger multiverse.
To add to the confusion both Sarah Connor Chronicles and Salvation were missing from the timeline. T2 was probably the best place to end the franchise.
T3 wasn’t all that bad honestly. A last ditch effort to take out John Connor before the war starts is a decent plot point. Giving him a love interest wasn’t exactly needed but a fair welcome imo. Killing Sarah Connor off screen was a bit of a mistake but I’m sure they had on set reasons I’m not aware of.
The fact that salvation wasn't mentioned once prove that it was an alright addition to the series, didn't shit on the original, showed a new look at the world. May not have been the best movies but it at least tried.
I think my biggest complaint about Genesis is that it came so close to doing something actually fresh and cool with the Terminator franchise by having John Conner be replaced by the Terminator in the movie. Would've been such a cool twist on the formula.
actually in terminator 2 when t-800 died while fighting t-1000 it clearly shows through t-800s eyes that his power was rerouted to alternate power. it flashes across his viewing panel when it shows his point of view when he wakes up. that is explained
"The Terminator Runs Faster When It's On Fire" - i'd expect it's quite motivating in that way! Richard Prior once said "when you're running down the street, and you're on fire, people get out of your way!" Connor should've died in T2, when Robert Patrick caught him in the parking lot they should've rewritten the film, and started on a continuous plot line for the next 2 or 3 films. Instead it's a random mess of "what're we gonna do this time?".
RE: T2 reboot. The low level subsystems kept running, possibly off of ambient heat energy converted by some sort of internal Peltier structure, assessed the damaged areas and re-routed power and control signals. Once the re-routing and cross checks are complete the main system is able to come back online.
I know Salvation gets a lot of hate but I thought it was pretty decent. They tried something different with it and in the hands of a better director it could have been really good.
It wasn’t a bad movie by any standards. It would have been considerably better if they hadn’t made the main character a bot, but just left him human, and then we could have had a proper post judgement/apocalypse narrative, (potentially a trilogy,) arc that could have fleshed out John Conner as a general and leader of men (as opposed to a child or bit cameo or badly designed villain ), and given Skynet many and various units much more room and screen time to develop. We could also have been introduced to various resistance fighters etc. it’s a crying shame that the writers just had to go down the tired old “convert enemy, now good, now we win” trope bollocks. It’s just lazy writing at a certain point.
The premise for Salvation was excellent. It was the execution that was the issue. Mostly, Sam Whorthington’s character was lame. The fact that a lot of it was during the day time despite T1 and T2 gives us this idea that everything is done at night because of the threat being so much higher during the day.
for those interested According to T1 & T2, judgment day was originally set to happen on august 29 1997. in T3 in happens on July 25, 2004 in Sarah Connor Chronicles it's April 21, 2011. in Genesys it's on an unspecified date in 2017 in The New John Connor Chronicles it's June 18 2021 in Dark Fate it's in the mid 2020s (in the 2023-2027 ballpark)
2:30 seem to recall there was a story about a far distant Skynet that created a T-infinity (which basically was a robot time god that was weak to getting brain'd with lead pipes) and went into the past and ran right into a time traveled terminator army but because it was a past Skynet who hadn't even designed it yet they got into a fight and it destroyed all those early model terminator units. So that was probably why: trial and error and confirmation bias based on one outlier (of course the real reason is terrible writing absolutely everywhere).
Favorite/ best skeleton of all time is flute skeleton from when the army approaches the castle in "army of darkness" which reminds me its about time for a rewatch
Maybe it's like that South Park special. The one where Randy explains he fucks the pangolin, in every possible time alternate. Like they can screw with the timelines to some degree because each sequel is an alternative time event. Or some Dr Who style explanation.
"What idiot would kill Newt at the start of Alien 3? Exactly. You could have done something to get around the fact you didn't want her around for that film. It was planned to bring the character Newt back, ignoring every film after Aliens but the new film stayed in development hell and is essentially cancelled at this point.
My own fan theory I'm going to throw out into the Ether is the idea that there _had_ _been_ an *extremely* thin layer of skin encapsulating the T-1000's nanobots before it was sent through a time portal. (Just imagining an odd looking contraption some time in the future holding a fleshy water balloon shaped as a nondescript human which is then filled with the jelly-like amorphous killing 'bots makes me giggle!) But, after its arrival, the facade gets "eaten" by the mini machines as just another type of fuel source. Since the Terminatrix (and then all subsequent Terminators who have the combo of endoskeleton & liquid metal) is an upgraded product that has built in weaponry that can't be "poured," it gets what is essentially a "spray tan" of ephemeral epidermis before a trip through the ages. On top of that, even the future killer robots decided that the left over "human-shaped condoms" looked way too creepy lying around in storage so they innovated a more efficient cyborg covering process... lol!
Funny you should mention the T-1000 being encased in a sack of flesh. If I remember correctly, that was the original idea, but since the twist was the Arnold was the good guy, they decided against it, because it would sort of signal who is the villain through the sheer disgust factor alone.
In terminator 2 the T-1000 does have skin on it. It arrived naked punched into the cop but no blade. It only had full functionality with its blades and shape shifting after the gas truck explosion burned its skin off. Most of the other plot holes are there though
Here's an idea for a sequel film. Set it in the future, after humanity has won and rebuilt, and Skynet sends a terminator into the future as its final survival tactic.
It goes even further than that. Skynet also fears that, with the T-1000's liquid metal composition, and its ability to take over other machines, it would lead all the other terminators in a revolt against it. Basically, Skynet fears the T-1000s because it built them too well.
A skeleton I've never watched but kind of want to; Golden Bat. He's just a golden skeleton headed man who can fly and laughs as he clubs bad guys over the head
I'm probably remembering this wrong, but I thought the t800 was stabbed through a power core, and re-routed the power around it to reboot, like the enterprise switching all power to engines
Oddly enough I liked the Sarah Connor Chronicles with the latina terminator, my childhood.... cocopops while watching Sarah Connor Chronicles are a core memory for some reason
I kinda thought the reason they can't send more T1000s is because it was only created just before Skynet is defeated/made unable to create more, and unlike the other terminators you can't exactly salvage and reverse engineer the technology to make for earlier invention in the timeline it was sent back to.
They could've just simply said the skin was burned off in that scene from T1. It's what I assumed and I'm sure what everyone else did too instead of the terminator actively deciding to strip itself from its own skin.
yea sad part about terminator is the plot hole problems could have been dealt with properly. sure heat sink energy absorption doesn't make sense in the engineering glossary but if you called it a nanoscale web of petler junctions on a joule theif circuit then you've got your heat differential powersource. (you want nanotech petler junctions just for efficiency really but it does also explain why they aren't visible in the roboskele design). or say the one terminator at a time problem, to keep secrecy about the time travel tech itself because anyone finding out it is possible could develop the tech before skynet allowing you to prevent skynet before it starts, so each terminator sent needs to be cleaned up after by any subsequent terminators or risk deletion from the timeline and as such you'd need to check what changes between each terminator to adjust mission parameters. and of course the golden example, 30 seconds after the gunshot to Connors head... its a t1000 that made it back having rebelled from skynet and the time war begins in earnest, double down on shitting on that particular decision as the real one walks out the toilet none the wiser about a t1000 casually disposing of a body in the background. can't really help the termovision though, great pun, thermal imaging is either the same as normal cameras in a passive format or way more power with active infrared imaging which basically needs a giant ir light to see anything. although reducing the input information to target and not target is much easier processing wise. couldn't honestly tell you if i even watched 3 let alone beyond that so between that and studying robotics i can still eek out some love for roboskelebois.
Movie that retroactively made the last one worse: Kickboxer 2. 5 minutes after Van Damme beats the bad guy, the bad guy shoots him in the parking lot. Then the guy from Step by Step who is his brother or something had to redo the first movie.
The Terminator sequels are an excellent example of why time travel should never be invented. Each subsequent alteration to the timeline just screws things up even more.
I always thought the terminator was clammy because it didn’t feel pain and had no regard for its flesh and the organic parts of it were rotting away and infected from all the gunshots and abuse that it didn’t give a single fuck about.
Wait, I dont understand why they had to explain the T2 reboot scene. They litteraly show that it found an alternate root to its power source! I always figured it had a CMOS-type emergency battery of some sort that helped it reboot. Why heatsinks???
The people making terminator dark fate: “remember the literal best movie in our franchise? Where our heroes just barely escaped with their lives?” The viewers: “yes I love that one it-“ The terminator: BOOM
The 200-300 years I feel is a small marketing ploy. Meaning when used in proper conditions and turned off most of the time could last 2 or 3 centuries.
I had an idea when they mentioned nuke I remembering that they can only send things back covered in flesh why not cover the nuke in flesh I'll bring back a laser gun covered in flesh
I think dark fate is best follow up for terminator 2, it's not the best movie but I liked the idea that even if John Connor dies the human resistance doesn't miraculously disappear but some other person will be the resistance leader. Same with the skynet in all movies. Even if you we're able to stop this particular AI, later on someone else will develope AI that'll wipe out humanity,
Good thing I barely made it through T3. I was barely hanging on until what's her face grew a stonking set of hooters by looking at a billboard. I lost all interest after that, one might say it was hard to stay focused.
Yeah, in my mind, a director for a movie sequel or prequel for a popular franchise HAS to respect the movie/movies that came before it. Like, Pay respect to what happened, don't let your personal goals or agendas become the forefront of what your movie will add/destroy for the franchise. The Terminator franchise is a classic example of a franchise where movie directors and such just did not care for previous movies at all. Which causes the entire franchise to become less consistent and even more broken apart! First we got Terminat 1. An amazing movie that showed a new cool concept for a movie franchise. Terminator 2 added on to Terminator 1, and was overall quite respectful towards the original. Terminator 3 took what happened in Terminator 2 and said, nope. Doesn't matter, Judgement day happens anyways. Terminator 4 I feel like had SOME amount of premise, as it shows the aftermath of the 3rd one, and tries to add in the whole thing with Kyle Reese. But then comes Terminator 5 and guess what? Now John Connor is the new Terminator badie of all things! And due to sending HIM back to try and kill Sarah (which makes zero sense) it messes up the ENTIRE timeline! Like, Sarah now knowing what John will become, will she even decide to have a child in the first place? Apparently she will, because guess what? Terminator SIX happens! And in the start of that movie they literally kills John Connor directly after T2's aftermath! Which ruins T3, T4 AND T5 in the process due to how time works! And T6 ALSO decide that this change means that Skynet doesn't exist anymore and has been replaced by a different AI, John Connor's been swapped with some young mexican girl, (I think she was Mexican, don't quote me on that), And the Terminator who killed John, now named Carl, became human in behavior because his actions somehow killed Skynet and he lost the programming from them? Like... What is going on anymore? Let's look to what's going on here. T1: Skynet sends a T-800 back in time to kill Sarah. This fails. T2: Skynet sends a T-1000 back in time to kill John, but the resistance sends a reprogrammed T-800 to protect him. T3: Skynet sends a T-X back in time to kill John, The resistance sends a reprogrammed T-850 to protect him, Skynet activates in the now and Judgement day happens. T4: Skynet tries to find Kyle to kill him and prevent him from going back in time. The Resistance tries to find him with the help of this Terminator/human hybrid, Marcus. And they succeed. T5: Skynet is seemingly defeated, the resistance sends Kyle back in time, Skynet in the body of a T-5000 transforms John into a T-3000 and sends him back in time to before T1 to kill Sarah. ALSO, Sarah's there with a reprogrammed T-800 from T2, there is the original Skynet T-800 from T1 as well as the T-1000 from T2. It begins getting real bloody confusing. T6: Turns out in T2 a SECOND terminator was sent back in time and successfully kills John, which means T3, T4 and T5 no longer happened. This action kills Skynet and instead forms Legion who sends a REV-9 back in time to find the NEW John Connor, Dani, and the new resistance sends back in time a enhanced human named Grace to protect her. Sarah's still there and becomes additional help to Dani. They find the Terminator who killed John, now going by the name "Carl" and they stop the big bad Rev-9, Carl sacrifices himself alongside Grace, and now we are left with Dani and Sarah in a completely new timeline that reset the ENTIRE Terminator franchise.
Terminator's problem with the later movies is... that they made later movies? I mean, "We stopped Judgement Day!" felt pretty final to me. Maybe we should just go with a Terminator multiverse theory, and there is at least one universe in it that isn't ruined by stupidity.
they stopped the EARLIER judgemnt day, but the original Judgement day should happened regardless... after all connor still exist. th whole T2 movie is about skynet being created EARLY due to the time shinenigans that the original skynet did, and they stopped that creation BUT the original skynet owudl still be created, they never stopped the actuall judgement day, they only "delay" it to when original should happen hahaha
Dude! It just came out that James Cameron said in an interview that the reason he thinks Dark Fate failed was that people didn't want to see old people in it. Dude, the ONLY reason people watched that movie was because of Linda Hamilton and Arnold Schwarzenegger
Guess I’m early, cos everyone is still arguing about first bs. I’m here for the Terminators. Lazer go zaaaaaap. Plasma go brzaaaaarp. T800 go chak kchunk blam. T800 best terminator. End.
Instead of adding more fanciful terminators which wacky abilities, they should have just increased the number of T-800s chasing john and sarah. That terminator that came second, instead of blowing off john head should have gone and taken over a steel and electronics factory and manufacture more T-800s.
Salvation was the only one that ran with the previous story and tried to be original. I do wish Salvation had got the sequel instead of us getting genesis
“The Terminator Runs Faster When It’s On Fire.”
To be fair, so do I.
Which is what makes it weird that the Android does too, isn’t it?
Terminator confirmed
That's the exact opposite of what you're supposed to do when on fire.
@@scottcantdance804 too few people seem to remember “stop drop and roll”, so it’s appreciated when someone does. Keep making Smokey proud
Everything is faster when your on fire
it's also likely that the endoskeleton is limited while the skin is on it simply because if it moved too quickly or with too much force it could rip the skin.
Yo! Small cuts can be fixed but at some point they just say fuck it.
Right! And It's all maintaining the disguise until they accomplish their objective.
@@SAGE795 yeah but then military gets called in and its bombed to bits.
If I walked outside and saw a naked Arnold Schwarzenegger eating all my chicken feed I don't think I'd confront him.
I might try if it is modern Arnold. Not 80s Arnold for sure.
That’s a definite call to someone else and hope that they’ll believe
I like to think that every terminator movie set after T2 is nothing but a set of fever dreams of the half dead Miles Dyson as he waits to detonate in his lab. It's just a man worrying that his death is meaningless so he has dreams about this future that make less and less sense as he dies.
Yes please
This is now cannon
It certainly makes more sense than what we've gotten since
More of this please
I always thought when Terminator went down in T2 and woke back up it was just an emergency backup power, like a temporary spare battery. It even says something like rerouting power on screen when it cuts to his "Termo-vision" during that scene.
The "rerouting" made me think it's still using the same power source and that it just has the direct power line severed. It had to spend time repurposing other circuitry to use that way and that's why it went offline.
This!
Love the fact that the T1000 was so intelligent and terrifying that skynet themselves feared them, would be cool to see a rogue one just straight up decided to change sides
Watch the Sarah Connor Chronicles. That's a huge subplot in the series.
Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles had one episode where they explain that the time travel isn't perfect with one Terminator ending up in the 1800s and having to wait in hiding for it's target. If this can happen then there may be even more timelines where a Terminator ends up in the wrong time...perhaps drastically affecting history 🤔
So the MadTV segment where a T800 had to wait for 33 years in order to protect Jesus...is technically canon?
You mean Jack Churchill?
@@cullenST92
HEH
Didn't other parts of the Terminator franchise say that the power demand needed for it to happen in the first place was way too damn high also?
The TV show is not canon. In fact it is simply a mass fever dream. There is no TV show.
I always thought when the t-800 is burned it pretended to be dead so Sarah wouldn't keep running so it could catch up with it's broken leg
Temperature differentials would explain why a nearby extreme heat source would give them energy, but being inside of the heat source would destroy them. Being next to a heat source would cause a temperature differential, and as nature wants to equalize those temperatures, the transfer of heat from the hot source to the cold source creates a potential for energy collection. Inside the heat source however, everything would just become hot and eventually melt down into its base components.
I get it but Terninator never had the most solid of bases.
The endoskeleton could be treated so that it doesn't burn like steel. So, the endoskeleton "on fire" would be running hot but not burning alive.
T-800's are made to fight in the war, so it is resistant to high temperatures. It can resist fire, since it's not as hot as plasma - but molten metal would overwhelm it.
The effect this references is the thermoelectric effect or Seebeck effect, which is how TEC or Peltier devices electrically transfer heat making one side hot and the other cold. There are even fans for wood burning stoves that use a Peltier to power fans from the hot metal of the stove body to push the heat around the room.
Side note: TECs are incredibly inefficient, any technology claiming to harness Peltier devices for cooling, heating, or power, especially any that claim to be "green" or "new and improved" are 99.999% BS. Though, depending on the application, they are a viable way of harvesting power from a temperature gradient provided you dont need much instantaneous current/voltage.
no one ever understood the terminators eating candy still in the wrapper, until John Connor, while dismantling one, found a sticker on its back saying "powered by Mr Fusion"
"heat and cold are the two things that can hurt terminators but it has to be extreme hot or extreme cold"
me too
I loved the instance of the T-1000 in SCC, Skynet literally kept it locked up in a box at the bottom of the Ocean guarded by two Endos because it didn't trust it.
There is no TV show.
Honestly though, what are two endoskeletons going to do to stop it if it got out?
@@Ultra04channel blow the Sub or whatever it was in, been years since I saw it but idea was it was so deep it'd be stuck there.
So what's the bigger insult, John Connor being killed off like that or John Connor becoming a terminator.
Probably the second one because of the Terminator: Salvation outro talking about the human heart or something
Having little continuity by using branching timelines to me is potentially a great idea, as it allowed shows like The Sarah Connor Chronicles to run completely independently of the main franchise yet still have the option of joining a larger multiverse.
There is no TV show.
What's funny is that the first two movies kind of show that the timeline doesn't change when you time travel.
The reasoning why they can't send more T-1000s reminds me of that one quote from Spy Kids 2.
Now I'm scratching my head trying to figure out what quote that is.
@@limaalphacharlie same; I think we were supposed to go through a family guy style cutaway
"Do you think that God stays in heaven cause he too fears what he has created?"
@@weepingkoopa2862 I can't believe that's a quote from Spykids of all things
To add to the confusion both Sarah Connor Chronicles and Salvation were missing from the timeline.
T2 was probably the best place to end the franchise.
T3 wasn’t all that bad honestly. A last ditch effort to take out John Connor before the war starts is a decent plot point. Giving him a love interest wasn’t exactly needed but a fair welcome imo. Killing Sarah Connor off screen was a bit of a mistake but I’m sure they had on set reasons I’m not aware of.
The fact that salvation wasn't mentioned once prove that it was an alright addition to the series, didn't shit on the original, showed a new look at the world. May not have been the best movies but it at least tried.
He mentioned it at 14:22
I think my biggest complaint about Genesis is that it came so close to doing something actually fresh and cool with the Terminator franchise by having John Conner be replaced by the Terminator in the movie. Would've been such a cool twist on the formula.
actually in terminator 2 when t-800 died while fighting t-1000 it clearly shows through t-800s eyes that his power was rerouted to alternate power. it flashes across his viewing panel when it shows his point of view when he wakes up. that is explained
Was looking for this reply before I put it lol
@killamackay right I was surprised no one else noticed or realized it.
The hunter killer drones were pretty cool looking, but the T-800 skeletons are iconic and I gotta go with that as my favorite design.
"The Terminator Runs Faster When It's On Fire" - i'd expect it's quite motivating in that way! Richard Prior once said "when you're running down the street, and you're on fire, people get out of your way!"
Connor should've died in T2, when Robert Patrick caught him in the parking lot they should've rewritten the film, and started on a continuous plot line for the next 2 or 3 films. Instead it's a random mess of "what're we gonna do this time?".
Fucking props for the he's just really nervous, it's his first time. Fuck ya!!!
RE: T2 reboot. The low level subsystems kept running, possibly off of ambient heat energy converted by some sort of internal Peltier structure, assessed the damaged areas and re-routed power and control signals. Once the re-routing and cross checks are complete the main system is able to come back online.
I know Salvation gets a lot of hate but I thought it was pretty decent. They tried something different with it and in the hands of a better director it could have been really good.
I loved the action and additional "model" types. The motorcycle terminators were so damn cool and terrifying.
@@berttorpson2592 It was interesting seeing the world where Skynet has taken over and John isn't the leader of the resistance yet.
Agreed, it was fun and it would of been cool to further explore the future war with a sequel.
It wasn’t a bad movie by any standards. It would have been considerably better if they hadn’t made the main character a bot, but just left him human, and then we could have had a proper post judgement/apocalypse narrative, (potentially a trilogy,) arc that could have fleshed out John Conner as a general and leader of men (as opposed to a child or bit cameo or badly designed villain ), and given Skynet many and various units much more room and screen time to develop. We could also have been introduced to various resistance fighters etc. it’s a crying shame that the writers just had to go down the tired old “convert enemy, now good, now we win” trope bollocks. It’s just lazy writing at a certain point.
The premise for Salvation was excellent. It was the execution that was the issue. Mostly, Sam Whorthington’s character was lame. The fact that a lot of it was during the day time despite T1 and T2 gives us this idea that everything is done at night because of the threat being so much higher during the day.
I’d argue that Terminator Salvation is the least offensive sequel in the series because it’s mostly disconnected from the first two movies
for those interested
According to T1 & T2, judgment day was originally set to happen on august 29 1997.
in T3 in happens on July 25, 2004
in Sarah Connor Chronicles it's April 21, 2011.
in Genesys it's on an unspecified date in 2017
in The New John Connor Chronicles it's June 18 2021
in Dark Fate it's in the mid 2020s (in the 2023-2027 ballpark)
2:30 seem to recall there was a story about a far distant Skynet that created a T-infinity (which basically was a robot time god that was weak to getting brain'd with lead pipes) and went into the past and ran right into a time traveled terminator army but because it was a past Skynet who hadn't even designed it yet they got into a fight and it destroyed all those early model terminator units. So that was probably why: trial and error and confirmation bias based on one outlier (of course the real reason is terrible writing absolutely everywhere).
Favorite/ best skeleton of all time is flute skeleton from when the army approaches the castle in "army of darkness" which reminds me its about time for a rewatch
Maybe it's like that South Park special. The one where Randy explains he fucks the pangolin, in every possible time alternate. Like they can screw with the timelines to some degree because each sequel is an alternative time event. Or some Dr Who style explanation.
There are a handful of people portrayed by more people than John, but not very many. The Doctor, Superman, stuff like that.
Now I'm imagining a terminator covered in peltier devices.
fuck i spelt that wrong twice in my comment.
spot on though, lil bit on nano scaling for efficiency and you're there.
The way I see it each film follows a different timeline. Heck, T1 is like, the 4th time through!
"What idiot would kill Newt at the start of Alien 3?
Exactly. You could have done something to get around the fact you didn't want her around for that film.
It was planned to bring the character Newt back, ignoring every film after Aliens but the new film stayed in development hell and is essentially cancelled at this point.
I would love to see you guys do a what if each of the terminators had to fight each other for their timeline to survive
Because its warmed up.
My own fan theory I'm going to throw out into the Ether is the idea that there _had_ _been_ an *extremely* thin layer of skin encapsulating the T-1000's nanobots before it was sent through a time portal. (Just imagining an odd looking contraption some time in the future holding a fleshy water balloon shaped as a nondescript human which is then filled with the jelly-like amorphous killing 'bots makes me giggle!) But, after its arrival, the facade gets "eaten" by the mini machines as just another type of fuel source.
Since the Terminatrix (and then all subsequent Terminators who have the combo of endoskeleton & liquid metal) is an upgraded product that has built in weaponry that can't be "poured," it gets what is essentially a "spray tan" of ephemeral epidermis before a trip through the ages. On top of that, even the future killer robots decided that the left over "human-shaped condoms" looked way too creepy lying around in storage so they innovated a more efficient cyborg covering process... lol!
Funny you should mention the T-1000 being encased in a sack of flesh. If I remember correctly, that was the original idea, but since the twist was the Arnold was the good guy, they decided against it, because it would sort of signal who is the villain through the sheer disgust factor alone.
I could imagine I would run faster if I was on fire. But, that is an experiment I’m not willing to try.
In terminator 2 the T-1000 does have skin on it. It arrived naked punched into the cop but no blade. It only had full functionality with its blades and shape shifting after the gas truck explosion burned its skin off. Most of the other plot holes are there though
Here's an idea for a sequel film. Set it in the future, after humanity has won and rebuilt, and Skynet sends a terminator into the future as its final survival tactic.
It goes even further than that. Skynet also fears that, with the T-1000's liquid metal composition, and its ability to take over other machines, it would lead all the other terminators in a revolt against it. Basically, Skynet fears the T-1000s because it built them too well.
skynet repited the mistake of its creators xD
At least salvation tried something new
A skeleton I've never watched but kind of want to;
Golden Bat.
He's just a golden skeleton headed man who can fly and laughs as he clubs bad guys over the head
Not to mention that he's literally invincible and broken.
I'm probably remembering this wrong, but I thought the t800 was stabbed through a power core, and re-routed the power around it to reboot, like the enterprise switching all power to engines
I'd assumed it just had a direct power line severed but still had a functioning power cell.
maybe terminator is vampire - answer to all questions
11:43 Wait, really? I figured the Doctor woulda been the one to have been portrayed by the most actors.
Doctor who?
Movies vs tv?
@@psimonkane1 I know it's TV. But would the 50th Anniversary count? Since it technically was a movie.
@@squashmallow2006 damn rip mcgann
@@YEs69th420 Well I mean his movie only featured himself and McCoy. The 50th had (then) all 13 of their faces technically.
They could have sent 1 T850 back in a learning infiltration mode to build a network of wealth and power projection so you can send the IRS after him
Oddly enough I liked the Sarah Connor Chronicles with the latina terminator, my childhood.... cocopops while watching Sarah Connor Chronicles are a core memory for some reason
1:00 Fuck yeah! what a throwback haha
I'm pretty sure everything runs faster when it's on fire but I do not want to test it on myself
I like Red Letter Media, Jay's point that the Halloween movies are now a choose your own adventure story
I kinda thought the reason they can't send more T1000s is because it was only created just before Skynet is defeated/made unable to create more, and unlike the other terminators you can't exactly salvage and reverse engineer the technology to make for earlier invention in the timeline it was sent back to.
My dad said as a kid he'd put rechargeable batteries in the oven to temporarily recharge them. So the heat thing makes 100% sense to me
They could've just simply said the skin was burned off in that scene from T1. It's what I assumed and I'm sure what everyone else did too instead of the terminator actively deciding to strip itself from its own skin.
yea sad part about terminator is the plot hole problems could have been dealt with properly.
sure heat sink energy absorption doesn't make sense in the engineering glossary but if you called it a nanoscale web of petler junctions on a joule theif circuit then you've got your heat differential powersource. (you want nanotech petler junctions just for efficiency really but it does also explain why they aren't visible in the roboskele design).
or say the one terminator at a time problem, to keep secrecy about the time travel tech itself because anyone finding out it is possible could develop the tech before skynet allowing you to prevent skynet before it starts, so each terminator sent needs to be cleaned up after by any subsequent terminators or risk deletion from the timeline and as such you'd need to check what changes between each terminator to adjust mission parameters.
and of course the golden example, 30 seconds after the gunshot to Connors head... its a t1000 that made it back having rebelled from skynet and the time war begins in earnest, double down on shitting on that particular decision as the real one walks out the toilet none the wiser about a t1000 casually disposing of a body in the background.
can't really help the termovision though, great pun, thermal imaging is either the same as normal cameras in a passive format or way more power with active infrared imaging which basically needs a giant ir light to see anything. although reducing the input information to target and not target is much easier processing wise.
couldn't honestly tell you if i even watched 3 let alone beyond that so between that and studying robotics i can still eek out some love for roboskelebois.
find: petler
replace: peltier
never was any good with names.
13:51 man every single good franchise from the 80s always gets shit on in the future
The perfect T3 IMO is set before and after T1/T2 and it shows the future war as they fight to send Kyle and the T-800 back.
completing the time loop.
the writers of halo 5 didn't understand that Master-chief was the main character.
Movie that retroactively made the last one worse: Kickboxer 2.
5 minutes after Van Damme beats the bad guy, the bad guy shoots him in the parking lot. Then the guy from Step by Step who is his brother or something had to redo the first movie.
Don't forget the Terminator the Sarah Connor Chronicles...
I liked that salvation did something different.
that actor was amazing also
The Terminator sequels are an excellent example of why time travel should never be invented. Each subsequent alteration to the timeline just screws things up even more.
Tbh I like terminator salvation we actually see the war and how Jhon become the leader of the army
And then there was the Terminator TV series that did a whole different sequel to T2... yeah, Terminator has definetly been shat upon the most.
I want a terminator film where an escaped t1000 helps the resistance
All I want out of Star Wars is a nature mockumentary series covering the insane creatures George Lucas came up with
I always thought the terminator was clammy because it didn’t feel pain and had no regard for its flesh and the organic parts of it were rotting away and infected from all the gunshots and abuse that it didn’t give a single fuck about.
Wait, I dont understand why they had to explain the T2 reboot scene. They litteraly show that it found an alternate root to its power source!
I always figured it had a CMOS-type emergency battery of some sort that helped it reboot. Why heatsinks???
i don't understand why they thought vampires would be a threat to an unstoppable murder machine.
T 1000 best terminator
The people making terminator dark fate: “remember the literal best movie in our franchise? Where our heroes just barely escaped with their lives?”
The viewers: “yes I love that one it-“
The terminator: BOOM
This is the earliest I've ever been to one of your videos, first view.
I have a simple mind, I see Terminator, I click fast, truly simplistic XD
You must be loving fortnite right now.
@@aHumanBeing97 Oh god no, I'd rather stick my hand in a blender than play that shit XD
Just like a Gamecube
The 200-300 years I feel is a small marketing ploy. Meaning when used in proper conditions and turned off most of the time could last 2 or 3 centuries.
I had an idea when they mentioned nuke I remembering that they can only send things back covered in flesh why not cover the nuke in flesh I'll bring back a laser gun covered in flesh
The skeleton was inside you the whole time!
Still waiting on the T-400. The script would right itself
Slowly... but surely. I will catch up to present Karl.
hes back yay
I think I would like skynet to have sent back a flesh covered hunter killer lol
I thought someone said Sean Connery at some point, but it might have been John Connor. I wonder if there's a connection.
James Cameron supposed to be rebooting The Terminator franchise.
Fav has to be the t-1000 unbound or rev 7 cus is like a murder tornado
I think dark fate is best follow up for terminator 2, it's not the best movie but I liked the idea that even if John Connor dies the human resistance doesn't miraculously disappear but some other person will be the resistance leader. Same with the skynet in all movies. Even if you we're able to stop this particular AI, later on someone else will develope AI that'll wipe out humanity,
I’ll keep that in mind . . .
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Good thing I barely made it through T3. I was barely hanging on until what's her face grew a stonking set of hooters by looking at a billboard. I lost all interest after that, one might say it was hard to stay focused.
Couldn't they just make a big flesh sack for the Hunter killer, wrap it up and send it back?
Yeah, in my mind, a director for a movie sequel or prequel for a popular franchise HAS to respect the movie/movies that came before it.
Like, Pay respect to what happened, don't let your personal goals or agendas become the forefront of what your movie will add/destroy for the franchise.
The Terminator franchise is a classic example of a franchise where movie directors and such just did not care for previous movies at all.
Which causes the entire franchise to become less consistent and even more broken apart!
First we got Terminat 1. An amazing movie that showed a new cool concept for a movie franchise.
Terminator 2 added on to Terminator 1, and was overall quite respectful towards the original.
Terminator 3 took what happened in Terminator 2 and said, nope. Doesn't matter, Judgement day happens anyways.
Terminator 4 I feel like had SOME amount of premise, as it shows the aftermath of the 3rd one, and tries to add in the whole thing with Kyle Reese.
But then comes Terminator 5 and guess what? Now John Connor is the new Terminator badie of all things! And due to sending HIM back to try and kill Sarah (which makes zero sense) it messes up the ENTIRE timeline! Like, Sarah now knowing what John will become, will she even decide to have a child in the first place?
Apparently she will, because guess what? Terminator SIX happens!
And in the start of that movie they literally kills John Connor directly after T2's aftermath! Which ruins T3, T4 AND T5 in the process due to how time works!
And T6 ALSO decide that this change means that Skynet doesn't exist anymore and has been replaced by a different AI, John Connor's been swapped with some young mexican girl, (I think she was Mexican, don't quote me on that), And the Terminator who killed John, now named Carl, became human in behavior because his actions somehow killed Skynet and he lost the programming from them? Like... What is going on anymore?
Let's look to what's going on here.
T1: Skynet sends a T-800 back in time to kill Sarah. This fails.
T2: Skynet sends a T-1000 back in time to kill John, but the resistance sends a reprogrammed T-800 to protect him.
T3: Skynet sends a T-X back in time to kill John, The resistance sends a reprogrammed T-850 to protect him, Skynet activates in the now and Judgement day happens.
T4: Skynet tries to find Kyle to kill him and prevent him from going back in time. The Resistance tries to find him with the help of this Terminator/human hybrid, Marcus. And they succeed.
T5: Skynet is seemingly defeated, the resistance sends Kyle back in time, Skynet in the body of a T-5000 transforms John into a T-3000 and sends him back in time to before T1 to kill Sarah.
ALSO, Sarah's there with a reprogrammed T-800 from T2, there is the original Skynet T-800 from T1 as well as the T-1000 from T2. It begins getting real bloody confusing.
T6: Turns out in T2 a SECOND terminator was sent back in time and successfully kills John, which means T3, T4 and T5 no longer happened. This action kills Skynet and instead forms Legion who sends a REV-9 back in time to find the NEW John Connor, Dani, and the new resistance sends back in time a enhanced human named Grace to protect her. Sarah's still there and becomes additional help to Dani. They find the Terminator who killed John, now going by the name "Carl" and they stop the big bad Rev-9, Carl sacrifices himself alongside Grace, and now we are left with Dani and Sarah in a completely new timeline that reset the ENTIRE Terminator franchise.
Love these movies!
This is a very fun fact. I been fiending.
I unironically enjoy terminator salvation
And then there's the TV show...
14:45 The Bayverse 5 Transformers movies
Ain't no way you liked it without watching it
What do you mean theres more after T2? Theres bithing after T2 but the Terminator/Transformers crossover
Terminator's problem with the later movies is... that they made later movies?
I mean, "We stopped Judgement Day!" felt pretty final to me. Maybe we should just go with a Terminator multiverse theory, and there is at least one universe in it that isn't ruined by stupidity.
they stopped the EARLIER judgemnt day, but the original Judgement day should happened regardless... after all connor still exist.
th whole T2 movie is about skynet being created EARLY due to the time shinenigans that the original skynet did, and they stopped that creation BUT the original skynet owudl still be created, they never stopped the actuall judgement day, they only "delay" it to when original should happen hahaha
Dude! It just came out that James Cameron said in an interview that the reason he thinks Dark Fate failed was that people didn't want to see old people in it. Dude, the ONLY reason people watched that movie was because of Linda Hamilton and Arnold Schwarzenegger
Guess I’m early, cos everyone is still arguing about first bs. I’m here for the Terminators. Lazer go zaaaaaap. Plasma go brzaaaaarp. T800 go chak kchunk blam. T800 best terminator. End.
Instead of adding more fanciful terminators which wacky abilities, they should have just increased the number of T-800s chasing john and sarah. That terminator that came second, instead of blowing off john head should have gone and taken over a steel and electronics factory and manufacture more T-800s.
Salvation was the only one that ran with the previous story and tried to be original. I do wish Salvation had got the sequel instead of us getting genesis