I think this is the best video you’ve made. Literally every single word in this video rings true, I feel seen. Also explain why it’s so hard for me to admit that I’m wrong and why I am so pedantic about word choices. This is video is mandatory for every INTJ to understand ourselves. I’m also an INTJ content creator on my other account, don’t worry I’m not playing in your lane 😅 it also takes me hooours to record.
This is hilariously accurate. I had some discussions with an ENTJ and every single time I could agree with him mostly but I kept telling him about the nuance he was missing out that made his conclusion wrong. I think he was thinking that I was just being difficult but I was really just pointing out the details because for me it made a significant difference. When he said something that I could easily fact check that was obviously wrong I started to question if I can take any of his "facts" seriously.
I'm an ENTJ and I definitely start with the big picture then refine with details as necessary. I often repeat back a summary of whatever someone just said to see if I understand the gist, and it's often taken as an oversimplification.
@autocosm in this case it was done via text and there was no repeating back. I also think this particular individual and I had issues communicating because he was from a very different culture and made a lot of assumption about me and what I was saying. I also secretly believe he wasn't used to someone going against what he had though and carefully deduced. And for him it was good enough to be close enough to the facts and for me it wasn't the case. Because by going with it as simple as he did he was saying some very discriminatory things. For example he thought with few exceptions all other MBTIs were lazy. That's why ENTJs could do as much as they do. It's because they are not lazy. And he thought all people could achieve what he achieved if they were not lazy. Which doesn't add up because people are not a black box that can all output the same if they have the same input. Even with tailored input you will still have people who can do / handle more depending on many factors. Yes, people may be able to improve their situation vastly by investing more wisely and effectively in themselves but the outcome depends on many things. I've been around enough people and helped them with learning things to know that not everyone can be a CEO and own property and build it all from scratch like he did. With patience, guidance and support / the right information, lives can be improved for sure. But he thinks just because he did it without help everyone else can too and they don't because they are lazy.
@@Basilicum_Raspberry I don't share his view that all other types are lazy, and I regret that he perpetuated that caricature of ENTJs that we are all 24/7 coffee-addled grindset bros looking to crush our enemies. I find it far easier to type people I work with in the real world discreetly to evaluate how we can work better together than to openly discuss types. That's when these performative exaggerated characters reveal themselves.
@autocosm that is a way better use for typing. I think it is a very useful tool but it has limitations and a lot goes into what we see from people than just their basic MBTI types, like upbringing, culture, values, personal idiosyncrasy, maturity, personal development and so on. So I had some issue with how black and white he was being. I'm not sure if he really believes what he said or of he just didn't want to loose the argument. I know another ENTJ male CEO and I asked him a few things and like you he didn't agree with the view of the other one. Thanks for sharing!
Well that definitely explains why my new pet peeve has been people using words incorrectly/hyperbolically to the point where the words lose all meaning. I didn't even notice how annoyed I would get about this, (because it's done in the real world SO FREQUENTLY now-a-days) until I started seeing people do this while I'm gaming. To others, I'm sure it seems silly, hell I can even acknowledge that in the grand scheme of things it IS silly. And yet, I still can't ignore how much it irks me at times. And the more I've let a person into my circles, the more it irks me when they do it because the only thing I can think is, "You should be better than that..." Overall, great video! Both educational and fun, keep it up Jon!
There was a moment in time where I had to grind my teeth whenever I heard someone use the word "Epic". No, Grace, that was indeed not Epic! It was the antithesis of epic! 🙃
@@justcallmejon22 LOL, absolutely overused. My current one is anytime someone says something is "braindead." Cause 9 times out of 10 in order to do it correctly you do actually have to engage your brain a bit to make sure it works.😂
Now what many people don’t fully understand is that our critical parent function is in fact our third strongest function, and that we used just about as much as our parent function; and way stronger than our child function. For instance you as an INTJ will use Ti almost as much as Te, as the data that you adhere to has to make sense. Now with my case being an INTP, I very frequently use my critical parent Ni and used almost as much as Ne. This is why we are very strategic and future-focussed.
My function stack is very weird, I feel most like an infp yet Ti is actually also my critical parent funny enough, my function stack is Fi> Fe = Ni > Ne > Si > Ti > Te > Se
Thanks so very much- You have enlightened me. Really really enjoyed this video… Brilliant. I’m trying to figure out which of the 10 contingency plans I’ve made, due to the fact the doctor told me (dramatically) that I am not healthy enough to take on my dream job overseas… But I am still deactivating. I’ll keep watching your videos. Again, luvya appreciate ya, believe in ya 🙃🌻
English literature class, I'm asked to explain a chapter, I give 42 different interpretations, possibilities and outcomes. Teacher replies, "you're overthinking it, it's really not that complicated." Me: gobsmacked.
You understand me ✨Great observation as always. The 6th function in dreams was represented by an old man, for John Beebe. For me too, it was an wise man. Ti critic who become Ti wise maybe. Yep my mind blocked on the word "pretentious", and I preferred to leave the space. Well explained.
An INTJ would know why it’s wrong as well as what is wrong; because of their system based view, they see the source and symptoms of the problem generally
I love your way of explaining things through simple and creative storytelling. I can see some of that Fi slipping through 😊 I wonder if you've ever made a video on Feminine and Masculine functions. I watch some videos of other creators and I think that it's so interesting how different we show up even with the same MBTI type.
Well, guys, yeah, you kinda have 2 properly functioning thinking functions: aux Te and critic Ti, one of the best equipped thinking types! Of course we cannot compare to you with our only Ti tertiary and non existent Te. Btw, can it be that Ti critic in INTJs brings out INFJ's Ti more? And the same happens to INTJ"s Fi when INFJ they met, is in touch with their critic? Also, thank you for the video, it's a curious sneak peek into your minds, the part that I was missing until now.)
That's a great question about the Ti dynamic between the two! I can honestly say that my experience with INFJs has usually been more along the lines of feelings than it is thinking because I can usually tell that I struck a Ti nerve with my INFJs. Let me think about it some more and get back to you if I arrive to any other conclusions 😅. What do you think?
Keeping in mind the full framework, the ENTJ is able to perform comparable Te discussion with a fraction of the time it took you. Critical Ti won't let you SOUND stupid. But ENTJ Critical Ne says to quickly synthesize and Blast Se facts and keep it moving. The more graphs and figures they have to work with, the better. I am also wondering if you were Fi motivated in your research or if this was a neutral task for both of you.
Slightly disagree with you as I've never heard an ISTP use Ne like I do. As an INTP-A, the world of information and facts is fractioned into multiple pieces like a jigsaw puzzle. It takes a rational mind to sift through all the of it, determine what's true and false, and then put the pieces of the puzzle together with the good information. I got into a discussion with a police officer regarding 2020 and told him that clearly the law enforcement community nationwide has not learned from their mistakes because it was the same outcome of what happened in 1991 regarding Rodney King. A few bad narcissistic officers is all it takes to create chaos and it was the exact same outcome back then as it was in 2020 regarding George Floyd. This is due to certain policies regarding criminal justice. The war on drugs and qualified immunity because of the fact that they both neglect constitutional law which is very complex to get into. However, the primary function of the US Supreme Court is to balance out truth, logic and reasoning in laws and policies (simplified explanation). When it comes to the war on drugs, addictive behavior is mostly emotional insecurities that stem from childhood trauma which the war on drugs completely ignores. So the war on drugs is missing the truth. Qualified immunity makes it difficult for other police officers to report bad cops since nothing will happen and realistically no organization is immune to bad people and this includes police departments. Those bad cops don't have to self reflect before they make a decision which takes away the logic out of logical decision making. They don't have to because they know they won't get in trouble most of the time. Then you add the fact that law enforcement is suppose to be a part of the checks and balance system in regards to their constitutional duties and they don't often dispute these policies like they're suppose to. So these race riots will happen again if none of these are fixed but most importantly if they don't weed out their bad apples. In regards to your comment, I've never heard and ISTP use Ne like this. This BTW is also how I make predictions since humanity is definitely flawed due to insanity. Humanity will continue to make the same mistakes repeatedly but the good thing is we're the first species in Earth's history that has control of our own fate. We can make changes that can last. You being an ISFJ, this might be a huge Ne-Ti dump for you as it might seem like a lot but I could talk all day about making predictions.
False since they filter logic and truth through Fe - social and societal norms. Besides, it’s their child function, so they will be blatantly ignorant and arrogant when concluding. I know an ISFJ and he’s too much Ti god complex, thinking he’s figured life out and always seems to know “better” than me, an INTP (!)
I think it's hilarious that just today I was thinking about riot situations and how people behave, thinking to myself, "What's wrong with these people!", and then I see you mirror elements of that here. Then you talk about the misuse of words and I think of my own pet peeve of people using the word ignorant incorrectly, as when I may perhaps behave like a smart ass to correct someone and they say, "Why you gotta be so ignorant!" Of course, my behavior is more arrogant than ignorant but I guess people confuse the two. They seem ignorant of the word ignorant. Finally, a joke for y'all...Q: What's worse? Ignorance or apathy? A: I don't know and I don't care! 🙂
I have a personal grip with the word 'ignorant' as well and I have the inigo montoya “You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means” look when I hear it misused 😅
I swear man, I watch this video just to hear another INTJ talk. Makes me feel a little less alone. Thanks for the great vid sir.
I do the same thing with other INTJ content creators 😅
@@justcallmejon22will you post links?
I think this is the best video you’ve made. Literally every single word in this video rings true, I feel seen. Also explain why it’s so hard for me to admit that I’m wrong and why I am so pedantic about word choices. This is video is mandatory for every INTJ to understand ourselves.
I’m also an INTJ content creator on my other account, don’t worry I’m not playing in your lane 😅 it also takes me hooours to record.
This is hilariously accurate. I had some discussions with an ENTJ and every single time I could agree with him mostly but I kept telling him about the nuance he was missing out that made his conclusion wrong. I think he was thinking that I was just being difficult but I was really just pointing out the details because for me it made a significant difference. When he said something that I could easily fact check that was obviously wrong I started to question if I can take any of his "facts" seriously.
I'm an ENTJ and I definitely start with the big picture then refine with details as necessary. I often repeat back a summary of whatever someone just said to see if I understand the gist, and it's often taken as an oversimplification.
@autocosm in this case it was done via text and there was no repeating back. I also think this particular individual and I had issues communicating because he was from a very different culture and made a lot of assumption about me and what I was saying. I also secretly believe he wasn't used to someone going against what he had though and carefully deduced. And for him it was good enough to be close enough to the facts and for me it wasn't the case. Because by going with it as simple as he did he was saying some very discriminatory things. For example he thought with few exceptions all other MBTIs were lazy. That's why ENTJs could do as much as they do. It's because they are not lazy. And he thought all people could achieve what he achieved if they were not lazy. Which doesn't add up because people are not a black box that can all output the same if they have the same input. Even with tailored input you will still have people who can do / handle more depending on many factors. Yes, people may be able to improve their situation vastly by investing more wisely and effectively in themselves but the outcome depends on many things. I've been around enough people and helped them with learning things to know that not everyone can be a CEO and own property and build it all from scratch like he did. With patience, guidance and support / the right information, lives can be improved for sure. But he thinks just because he did it without help everyone else can too and they don't because they are lazy.
@@Basilicum_Raspberry I don't share his view that all other types are lazy, and I regret that he perpetuated that caricature of ENTJs that we are all 24/7 coffee-addled grindset bros looking to crush our enemies. I find it far easier to type people I work with in the real world discreetly to evaluate how we can work better together than to openly discuss types. That's when these performative exaggerated characters reveal themselves.
@autocosm that is a way better use for typing. I think it is a very useful tool but it has limitations and a lot goes into what we see from people than just their basic MBTI types, like upbringing, culture, values, personal idiosyncrasy, maturity, personal development and so on. So I had some issue with how black and white he was being. I'm not sure if he really believes what he said or of he just didn't want to loose the argument. I know another ENTJ male CEO and I asked him a few things and like you he didn't agree with the view of the other one. Thanks for sharing!
@@Basilicum_Raspberry Thank you for this thoughtful conversation!
Well that definitely explains why my new pet peeve has been people using words incorrectly/hyperbolically to the point where the words lose all meaning. I didn't even notice how annoyed I would get about this, (because it's done in the real world SO FREQUENTLY now-a-days) until I started seeing people do this while I'm gaming. To others, I'm sure it seems silly, hell I can even acknowledge that in the grand scheme of things it IS silly. And yet, I still can't ignore how much it irks me at times. And the more I've let a person into my circles, the more it irks me when they do it because the only thing I can think is, "You should be better than that..."
Overall, great video! Both educational and fun, keep it up Jon!
There was a moment in time where I had to grind my teeth whenever I heard someone use the word "Epic". No, Grace, that was indeed not Epic! It was the antithesis of epic! 🙃
@@justcallmejon22 LOL, absolutely overused. My current one is anytime someone says something is "braindead." Cause 9 times out of 10 in order to do it correctly you do actually have to engage your brain a bit to make sure it works.😂
Now what many people don’t fully understand is that our critical parent function is in fact our third strongest function, and that we used just about as much as our parent function; and way stronger than our child function. For instance you as an INTJ will use Ti almost as much as Te, as the data that you adhere to has to make sense. Now with my case being an INTP, I very frequently use my critical parent Ni and used almost as much as Ne. This is why we are very strategic and future-focussed.
Almost as much is* a bit of an optimistic statement. When SD that wouldn’t make sense but for UD it should be true. So, not generally true
It took a while for me to admit how often I engage with Ti because it just doesn't 'make sense' to me but I see how often I engage with it now 😅
@@sonicmaths8285 It sounds like you are parroting Chase, of which is system is open to criticism.
@@justcallmejon22 Am glad I was able to shed some light.
Thats so true I consistently have to be shown evidence and facts that something is proof
I wish I'd seen this on Monday morning, before I sent that email...
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My function stack is very weird, I feel most like an infp yet Ti is actually also my critical parent funny enough, my function stack is Fi> Fe = Ni > Ne > Si > Ti > Te > Se
Can you explain what you mean by that?
Seems to be the outcome of a cognitive functions test, mine would be Ti>Ne>Ni>Fi>Se>Te>Fe>Si
"Why do I sound more intelligent than you?" 😂
😂
@@justcallmejon22I love the sarcasm juxtaposed with the sincerity… only we would know it’s not actually arrogance.
Thanks so very much-
You have enlightened me.
Really really enjoyed this video…
Brilliant.
I’m trying to figure out which of the 10 contingency plans I’ve made, due to the fact the doctor told me (dramatically) that I am not healthy enough to take on my dream job overseas…
But I am still deactivating. I’ll keep watching your videos.
Again, luvya appreciate ya, believe in ya 🙃🌻
You figure out the best path yet?
@ syncope… which of the 10 paths will I faint on??
Thanks for asking bro!!
@ I’m ready for your next video even if you’re not 🙃…
This might explain why my Ti score was so high on the 'Keys2Cognition' test (it was my 4th highest after Ni, Fi and Te).
English literature class, I'm asked to explain a chapter, I give 42 different interpretations, possibilities and outcomes. Teacher replies, "you're overthinking it, it's really not that complicated." Me: gobsmacked.
We don't overthink, maybe it's others who don't think enough.
"Overthinking" allowed me to understand a lot of things by myself.
@Elodie_N_INTJ_Analyzes It's a blessing and a curse.
Learning when to choose our battles was one of the most difficult part of growing up 😅
I think learning about my critical parent was what made me convinced of the mbti+cognitive function stack theory.
It really is a game changer 😅
You understand me ✨Great observation as always.
The 6th function in dreams was represented by an old man, for John Beebe. For me too, it was an wise man. Ti critic who become Ti wise maybe.
Yep my mind blocked on the word "pretentious", and I preferred to leave the space. Well explained.
An INTJ would know why it’s wrong as well as what is wrong; because of their system based view, they see the source and symptoms of the problem generally
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I love your way of explaining things through simple and creative storytelling. I can see some of that Fi slipping through 😊 I wonder if you've ever made a video on Feminine and Masculine functions. I watch some videos of other creators and I think that it's so interesting how different we show up even with the same MBTI type.
I've never made a video on either of the two topics but maybe one day 😅
Great video!
Well, guys, yeah, you kinda have 2 properly functioning thinking functions: aux Te and critic Ti, one of the best equipped thinking types! Of course we cannot compare to you with our only Ti tertiary and non existent Te.
Btw, can it be that Ti critic in INTJs brings out INFJ's Ti more? And the same happens to INTJ"s Fi when INFJ they met, is in touch with their critic?
Also, thank you for the video, it's a curious sneak peek into your minds, the part that I was missing until now.)
That's a great question about the Ti dynamic between the two! I can honestly say that my experience with INFJs has usually been more along the lines of feelings than it is thinking because I can usually tell that I struck a Ti nerve with my INFJs. Let me think about it some more and get back to you if I arrive to any other conclusions 😅. What do you think?
Keeping in mind the full framework, the ENTJ is able to perform comparable Te discussion with a fraction of the time it took you.
Critical Ti won't let you SOUND stupid. But ENTJ Critical Ne says to quickly synthesize and Blast Se facts and keep it moving. The more graphs and figures they have to work with, the better.
I am also wondering if you were Fi motivated in your research or if this was a neutral task for both of you.
We were watching sports and talking about politics 😅
Yeah that is why IN(T) feels like having strong Ti and Si too.
But let`s get out of Plato`s cave.. it`s a really silly place!
But it's so comfy there 🙃
exactly ;)
in my experience ISFJs have very good Ti, even compared to INTPs. However I have noticed ISTPs have more intuition compared to INTP.
Slightly disagree with you as I've never heard an ISTP use Ne like I do. As an INTP-A, the world of information and facts is fractioned into multiple pieces like a jigsaw puzzle. It takes a rational mind to sift through all the of it, determine what's true and false, and then put the pieces of the puzzle together with the good information. I got into a discussion with a police officer regarding 2020 and told him that clearly the law enforcement community nationwide has not learned from their mistakes because it was the same outcome of what happened in 1991 regarding Rodney King. A few bad narcissistic officers is all it takes to create chaos and it was the exact same outcome back then as it was in 2020 regarding George Floyd. This is due to certain policies regarding criminal justice. The war on drugs and qualified immunity because of the fact that they both neglect constitutional law which is very complex to get into. However, the primary function of the US Supreme Court is to balance out truth, logic and reasoning in laws and policies (simplified explanation). When it comes to the war on drugs, addictive behavior is mostly emotional insecurities that stem from childhood trauma which the war on drugs completely ignores. So the war on drugs is missing the truth. Qualified immunity makes it difficult for other police officers to report bad cops since nothing will happen and realistically no organization is immune to bad people and this includes police departments. Those bad cops don't have to self reflect before they make a decision which takes away the logic out of logical decision making. They don't have to because they know they won't get in trouble most of the time. Then you add the fact that law enforcement is suppose to be a part of the checks and balance system in regards to their constitutional duties and they don't often dispute these policies like they're suppose to. So these race riots will happen again if none of these are fixed but most importantly if they don't weed out their bad apples. In regards to your comment, I've never heard and ISTP use Ne like this. This BTW is also how I make predictions since humanity is definitely flawed due to insanity. Humanity will continue to make the same mistakes repeatedly but the good thing is we're the first species in Earth's history that has control of our own fate. We can make changes that can last. You being an ISFJ, this might be a huge Ne-Ti dump for you as it might seem like a lot but I could talk all day about making predictions.
False since they filter logic and truth through Fe - social and societal norms. Besides, it’s their child function, so they will be blatantly ignorant and arrogant when concluding. I know an ISFJ and he’s too much Ti god complex, thinking he’s figured life out and always seems to know “better” than me, an INTP (!)
The ISFJs I know have really deep Ti knowledge on topics that they care about so I can see where you're coming from.
your videos always clear so much up for me
Keep improving kiddo ✊
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I think it's hilarious that just today I was thinking about riot situations and how people behave, thinking to myself, "What's wrong with these people!", and then I see you mirror elements of that here. Then you talk about the misuse of words and I think of my own pet peeve of people using the word ignorant incorrectly, as when I may perhaps behave like a smart ass to correct someone and they say, "Why you gotta be so ignorant!" Of course, my behavior is more arrogant than ignorant but I guess people confuse the two. They seem ignorant of the word ignorant. Finally, a joke for y'all...Q: What's worse? Ignorance or apathy? A: I don't know and I don't care! 🙂
I have a personal grip with the word 'ignorant' as well and I have the inigo montoya “You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means” look when I hear it misused 😅
@@justcallmejon22 That's too funny as I was thinking the exact same thing when I commented. One of my favorite movies. 🙂
Didnt seen the video 😅, but,… you guys have extraverted thinking.
It's clear that you didn't watch the video 😉
@ 🙆♀️ I knew it, but 🤭... couldn't help it, just had to comment 😂 INFJ greetings
06:22 lol
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Hello, My People!
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