Thank you for posting this. I am newly Baptized from St Mary's in St Paul MN. This has blessed me. .a guy coming out of a Protestant background. Thank you Father please pray for us as you are now memory eternal. A living part of the great cloud of witnesses. Father Bless
I read his book on the research they did resulting in their mass conversion. Great book. BTW, am being chrismated the 20th of next month, following in the path of the first century believers.
Prior to the first church schism which took place in 1054 A.D., the church was One under the leadership of the Bishops: Jerusalem, Antioch, Constantinople, Rome and Alexandria. In essence, Rome broke away (called the Great Schism) in 1054, where the beginnings of Roman Catholicism began. This is historical information, and is available for anyone who wishes to study. The remaining Bishops became the Eastern Orthodox Church and Rome became Roman Catholic Church.
The Orthodox do not question Peter's importance and role as leader of the Apostles. Peter did not have sole authority over the Apostles, since there were all equal in eyes of the Lord. The issue is papal universal authority, a political move begun by the Frank's involvement in Rome and further accelerated by the ultramontanism movement within the Latin church. Rome departed from the synodal form of church government.
I’m currently attending a modern mass. I’ve my conversion about 6 years now. Our Lord has revealed to me some informations about the modern Catholic has been changed. From his guidance I’ve learned about the first mass was said in Greek so I did some research. And so I understand a little about the beginning of Christian. A very small part. And my heart long to know the truth and so our Holy Spirit had led me to listen to your TH-cam. According to our Lord’s guidance I think this’s it. But I need to know more so I’m going to search for your TH-cam to see if I can learn more. Thank you. Please pray for me to know the true mass. Thank you.
According to the Atlas of Global Christianity, in 2010 there were almost 2.3 billion worldwide. But the same publication also indicates that those Christians belong to over 41,000 denominations-each with its own doctrines and rules of conduct.
@PapalSoldier Per history, Peter appointed Linus as the first bishop of Rome. There exists no record of Peter as bishop of Rome. Rome makes this claim because he was martyred there. For your info, the church in Antioch celebrates the fact of Peter's chair in that city.
St. Peter spent most of his life in Antioch, where he was the presiding Bishop. In the development of Christian Doctrine and practice, the Eastern Popes/Patriarchs, ("Pope": a title of honor for a Bishop) Fathers, and Saints were the predominant theological voices in the Church, e. g., St Cyril, St. Irenaeus, St. Athanhasius, St. Basil the Great, St. Gregory of Nazianzus, St John Chrysostom, St. Gregory Palamas. The romish claims to hegemony are false, as is the philosophic scholasticism of the west in its attempt to supersede spiritual typology/hermeneutics of the Holy Fathers with philosophic/cerebral analysis. As St. Mark of Ephesus has said "I surmise that the doctrines of the latins are corrupt.....there is no compromise in the Holy Orthodox Catholic and Apostolic Faith". Thank you, Father Gillquist, for your eloquent presentation of the One Holy Orthodox Apostolic Faith. Finding The New Testament Church : Fr Peter Gillquist
John 20:22: "He breathed on (all of) them : 'Receive the Holy Spirit: whose sins you forgive they are forgiven; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained". St. Bede confirms this as apostles' understanding in his commentary. In Matt 16:23 "Get thee behind me, Satan!" was spoken to Peter since he took the side of the enemy of Christ, Satan. So, he cannot be the head of any group as we see (Acts 15) Jerusalem Council: Peter and Paul both there, St. James presiding as bishop of Jerusalem.
I am well aware of the Orthodox stand of primacy among and not over, but the lady I was talking to did not have a clue...as far as the authority of the Pope I am happy to engage anyone who at least accepts the orthodox teahing of primacy.
The headship of Peter is noted by all the fathers, and is even stated in ecumenical council. ...if you are an EOC member it is something ur church accepts.
Acts 11:26. The Antiochian Orthodox Church should be the "New Rome" and the "New Constantinople." Antiochians came before Russians because Antioch was the second Patriarchal Center. Russia came way later.
One thing I wish to respond to, and that is the Church Fathers (as much as I have been blessedand inspired by their writings) were not infallible! If they were alive today, I wonder how they would respond to how we have made them appear "infallible."
"There is no doubt, and in fact it has been known in all ages, that the holy and most blessed Peter, prince and head of the apostles, pillar of the faith, and foundation of the Catholic Church, received the keys of the kingdom from our Lord Jesus Christ" ~ ecumentical council of Ephesus, acts of the council session 3.
@PapalSoldier Show me a document anywhere that proves Peter was the bishop in Rome.Antioch also holds the 'chair" since Peter was actually bishop there for seven years.
When I was a Baptist I was looking to become an Orthodox Catholic but the papacy kept getting in the way. It took me 5 years to leave the Baptist church and 2 more to became a Catholic form the Roman Rite. My Priest was a othr-Catholic and became Catholic also from the Roman Rite, After Becoming Catholic in 2000 my ex Baptist Pastor also came in with all his Family (wife,kids,mother,father bothers,sisters, and 180 people. He is now almost a Catholic Priest and so is his Dad. God bless.
It is a big issue that may never be worked out. From my understanding(and everyone has a different one becaues there is so much conflicting primary sources on the topic)Photius was excommunicated and then recanted and was reinstated.Then though he forged a letter from the Pope that gave authority for the rejection of the filioque. When Rome found out about this they excommunicated him again. This is probley must fitting seeing as how Rome and Constant did not reconcile untill long after Photius
In Scripture Peter was not called pope, the prince of the apostles, chief shepherd or head of the church. The only offices spoken of in scripture: Eph 4:11 & 1 Tim. 3 - apostle, prophets, evangelist, shepherds and teachers, overseer (bishop), deacon. Peter was called an apostle and servant (1 Pet 1:1/2 Pet 1:1) & fellow presbyter (1 Pet 5:1). I do understand how important customs are to us, but truth must ring true. Matt 8:14; Titus 1:1-6; Acts 10:25-26; John 20:21-23. Enjoy God's Word.
You're projecting your own cult status into everyone else! If you read the entire session here, the Roman legates wrote this up about their own .. ONly the papacy believes in Primacy of Peter. Orthodox Christians believe in the Holy Spirit as Head of Christ's Church - Who is the Vicar of Christ. Read, study and learn.
There is no record of Peter establishing the church in Rome. He assisted in establishing the churches in Antioch and Jerusalem. Paul organized the church in Rome. The fact that both Apostles were martyred there in significant.
St. Cyril might have called him such, however, Jesus did not; nor did any other apostle address Peter in such manner. It sounds like you are a Roman Catholic, and I pray God's blessing be with you. If you want Peter to be the pope, then for you that is what he will be. Grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ; and may God's love flow fully in your life.
"Unto you Peter I give the Keys (Total authority) to the Kingdom of Heaven. And whatso ever you bind in the earth (The Kingdom of Heaven) I (Jesus) will Bind in Heaven. Aman.
@mishakol129 That is really interesting, since there is a great drive for Orthodox Unity. The Joint Commission has been at resolving the issues between Eastern & Oriental Orthodoxy for over 40 yrs, and yet there is still division. Apart from doctrinal matters, others reasons are power & money. Large sums of money are sent from the Orthodox Churches in the USA to the "mother" churches overseas. In the USA they strive to be autocephalous (self-governing).
There are easily 2,000 different protestANT denominations in existence today, with between 3 to 10+ more popping up every day somewhere in America alone each one claiming and declaring they are right and everyone else is wrong. Non-denominational is simply another protestANT denomination. Check out the Orthodox Churches of America.
"As for those things which the universal Council of Chalcedon recently ordained in favor of the church of Constantinople, let Your Holiness be sure that there was no fault in me... It was the most reverend clergy of the church of Constantinople who where eager about it...Even so, the whole force of confirmation of the acts was reserved for the authority of Your Blessedness." -Patriarch Anatolius of Constantinople to Pope Leo, Ep 132 (on the subject of canon 28 of Chalcedon).
Why are the churches obeying government restrictions due to the covid “pandemic”? Why are some churches not doing Eucharist? Why are masks forced in order to worship? I recently just got chrismated but these things are bothering me. Isn’t the true Church of God suppose to be different and not compromise the faith? Seems like we fear a flu more than trust in Christ’s words. Idk it’s just troubling to me. Idk what to make of all of it. Trying to discern and let the Spirit guide me. Anyone have any input who has been in the Church for a long time?
A virus can be shared in a group meeting. That is what viruses are. It has happened in history that all the people died during epidemics. God gives us common sense so we must use it.
St Peter received God's revelation to the human heart when it was revealed to him that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.A few verses down in the same chapter, The Son Of God is calling St Peter satan. I conclude the Rock the Church is built upon is God's revelation to the human heart. Most pro-lifers have had this revelation, but none of us are claiming absolute authority over all Christendom. The church is not built upon the authority of the Papacy, rather the opposite. Our hearts are the Rock.
u dont read his book "becoming orthodox"? they come to orthodoxy in 1987, 2000 persons from diferent protestants beckgrounds. this is important more then to have bearb or not, my brother.
Also : "It is necessary to know that this decision [the 28th canon] was not accepted by the Blessed Pope Leo. He did not approve the holy Council of Chalcedon on this point, but he wrote to the Council that he could not accept such a novelty, machinated by the doubtful Anatolius, then bishop of Constantinople. Also, some bishops present at the Council refused to subscribe to the canon. And it is not true as this canon affirms that the holy Fathers have accorded the primacy and honor to..cont...
yes u are right, but ' filosofum non barba facit'. God blass u! i am from romania and in my country like in basarabia and russsia not all prists have bearb!
cont... old Rome because it was the capital of the Empire. But it is from on high that it began, it is of grace divine that this Primacy has derived its origin. It is because of the degree of his faith that Peter, the most exalted of the Apostles, heard these words from the very mouth of Our Lord: ‘Peter, lovest thou Me? Feed My sheep’. This is why he possesses among the hierarchs preeminent rank and the first See" ~ St Methodius
he cannot have a beard, he died in 2012, i think he is a saint in Jesus hend, is more importatn what he do for the church, then he have no bearb. in rusia, romania and others orthodox countries are a lots of orthodox prists who have no beard. an they are orthodox
Intresting that none protested and the acts at Chalcedon where not made by paple legates....I'll tell you what you pick a father and I'll show you he believed in the primacy of Peter
If you look closely at the book of acts you will find James was leading the church not Peter. While it is true that Peter did establish the church in Rome the same could be said about Antioch. We will never reunite the church if we insult each other.
Reunification is a Psyop. Repentance is what is needed. Repentance of Filioque, Papal Supremacy, the establishment of Schismatic Bishops and 1000 years of false teachings
Dear brother, you are right: this group has brought a papal/protestant understanding into the Faith -tragically. They did not have the humility to be taught as I said before. They remind me of RCatholic priests (i.e. bellicose, twirling their cross in their hand, ignoring women as is usual in evangelical Augustinians). The End Times have brought these tares into the wheatfields to test those in the Holy Faith - so that they will be strong in the face of these heretics and their ilk.
What is your problem once the Pope ( the high priest in the Earth) bind your sins in the earth, Jesus said he will bind them in Heaven . The argue ment is over. Okay
simon is equal to jacob of the Old Testament. Jacob was called israel and simon was called Peter. The head of the New Jew (the Catholics)is peter (his office) is established, the head of the Church as Jacob was the Head of the old Jew. Jesus is the Father of this New Jew (the Catholics) and he gave his power in the Earth (the kingdom of Heaven to Peter. Aman.
Christians do the Will of God, which is stated plainly in the responses of Jesus Christ to temptations from the devil. We do not serve ourselves, live for bread alone, or tempt God. This obedience maintains spiritual life in all 3 relationship that contain spiritual life, God to man, man to man, and man's physical to his spiritual nature. Spiritual life is required to receive Eternal Life. If you serve yourself, live for bread alone, and tempt God, you desolate all spiritual life in the human soul. This is abomination of desolation. Done in the Holy Place, by rev 13 vs 13 ( Holy Sepulcher), it is time to flee. God will launch a total war against the beast, because of temptation, in the Holy Place, where it ought not to be. Let the reader understand.
@DallPro95 , Call the sects then , or private man made Church' . The fact still remains Protestant Christianity is filled with thousands of competing voices , all of which can not be correct .
Not at all, the EOC accepts that Peter was head but his headship was a primacy while they claim that Rome took the primacy to supremacy....but the EOC accepts the headship of Peter the prince of the apostles
lexandria, but the Council of Chalcedon confirmed in Canon XXVIII: Privileges granted to old Rome,as former seat of empire. "150 ..Bishops, ... gave equal privileges (ἴσα πρεσβεῖα) to the most holy throne of (Constantinople)New Rome, justly judging that the city which is honored with the Sovereignty and the Senate and enjoys equal privileges with the old imperial Rome, ..r.[16] " Thus saith the Council of Chalcedon! Peter and Paul were both martyred in Old Rome, another reason for its honor.
@PapalSoldier No, I am factual. You keep on repeating the same nonsense. The "church of Rome as head", not universal or infallible. Stop reading into things that are not evident.
Since EOC doesn't know this: we don't follow legalisms of any of the councils. We follow the directions of the All-Holy Spirit's understanding of the application of these councils. Otherwise, the council of Florence would be in effect. Pharisees never see the Light of Christ since they are trapped by their own befuddlements. For any "law" one can find the opposing "law" - follow instead the understanding of the entire Orthodox Church with councils confirmed by Laity not just clergy.
Most of the EOC became "Orthodox" or so they said. One of their priests presents papist doctrines (i.e."Apostolic Succession through laying on of hands") as if they were Orthodox. They were directed by their bishop to continue studies in the Faith; those I know have not..so far. Many are arrogant, dismissive of other Orthodox, and pompous like the Protestants they still are. I know of some among them who are good priests - I just haven't met them.
Jesus started one Church and that was the Catholic Church with Bishops and Peter was the main Bishop and since he was Martyred in Rome that became the a Holy place since Rome was the worse pagan place in the world, God wanted to get Christianity to Rome and convert Romans and have them stop worshiping the Empire. Many Different Orthodox churches claim that the Roman Rite (Roman Catholic Church) broke from them, question: Did the Orth-Churches ever have Popes? NO, There were many Popes by 1054.
Holy Tradition is the problem with this group - and of course, humility to be taught. I've heard one arrogant priest say that Apostolic Succession is "given" by laying on of hands. This is the papal teaching.d. If Protestants "adopt" robes of priests and outer trappings without the teachings of our Holy Faith, we have Roman Catholicism since protestants are Augustinian and will bring this pan-heresy philosopher into their "Orthodox" understanding.
"Wherefore the most holy and blessed Leo, archbishop of the great and elder Rome, through us, and through this present most holy synod together with the thrice-blessed and all-glorious Peter the Apostle, who is the Rock and foundation of the Catholic Church, and the foundation of the orthodox faith" ~ Acts of ecumentical council of Chalcedon, Session 3...really anyone who claims to be part of the Orthodox church can not state Peter is not head....you must be part of some little cult breakoff
Thank you for posting this. I am newly Baptized from St Mary's in St Paul MN.
This has blessed me. .a guy coming out of a Protestant background.
Thank you Father please pray for us as you are now memory eternal. A living part of the great cloud of witnesses. Father Bless
I read his book on the research they did resulting in their mass conversion. Great book. BTW, am being chrismated the 20th of next month, following in the path of the first century believers.
This is 5 years later,from the last comment.This was so good to hear. Thank you. I pray more people will now see this in Jesus name.🥰
Prior to the first church schism which took place in 1054 A.D., the church was One under the leadership of the Bishops: Jerusalem, Antioch, Constantinople, Rome and Alexandria. In essence, Rome broke away (called the Great Schism) in 1054, where the beginnings of Roman Catholicism began. This is historical information, and is available for anyone who wishes to study. The remaining Bishops became the Eastern Orthodox Church and Rome became Roman Catholic Church.
well come home my brothers, greeting from roamania
Memory Eternal Fr. Gillquist.
"The worst pain is to forget, rather than remember." - Amen!
Orthodox was first it was the catholic that pulled away from orthodoxy. Great speaking thanks for uploading.
This is a great sermon. Thanks for sharing this!
This was a great sermon, thanks Mikhail, for uploading.
Fr. Peter was a delightful man. May he rest in peace. +
The Orthodox do not question Peter's importance and role as leader of the Apostles. Peter did not have sole authority over the Apostles, since there were all equal in eyes of the Lord. The issue is papal universal authority, a political move begun by the Frank's involvement in Rome and further accelerated by the ultramontanism movement within the Latin church. Rome departed from the synodal form of church government.
Peter has entered The Lord's rest (the Seventh Day) and in the new resurrection will rise again.
I’m currently attending a modern mass. I’ve my conversion about 6 years now. Our Lord has revealed to me some informations about the modern Catholic has been changed. From his guidance I’ve learned about the first mass was said in Greek so I did some research. And so I understand a little about the beginning of Christian. A very small part. And my heart long to know the truth and so our Holy Spirit had led me to listen to your TH-cam. According to our Lord’s guidance I think this’s it. But I need to know more so I’m going to search for your TH-cam to see if I can learn more. Thank you. Please pray for me to know the true mass. Thank you.
The true mass you speak of is the divine liturgy of the Orthodox Church
According to the Atlas of Global Christianity, in 2010 there were almost 2.3 billion worldwide. But the same publication also indicates that those Christians belong to over 41,000 denominations-each with its own doctrines and rules of conduct.
@PapalSoldier Per history, Peter appointed Linus as the first bishop of Rome. There exists no record of Peter as bishop of Rome. Rome makes this claim because he was martyred there. For your info, the church in Antioch celebrates the fact of Peter's chair in that city.
Technically, there was already a church at Rome when Peter got in. So the Roman Church, unlike the Antiochian, was substantially not built on Peter.
St. Peter spent most of his life in Antioch, where he was the presiding Bishop. In the development of Christian Doctrine and practice, the Eastern Popes/Patriarchs, ("Pope": a title of honor for a Bishop) Fathers, and Saints were the predominant theological voices in the Church, e. g., St Cyril, St. Irenaeus, St. Athanhasius, St. Basil the Great, St. Gregory of Nazianzus, St John Chrysostom, St. Gregory Palamas. The romish claims to hegemony are false, as is the philosophic scholasticism of the west in its attempt to supersede spiritual typology/hermeneutics of the Holy Fathers with philosophic/cerebral analysis. As St. Mark of Ephesus has said "I surmise that the doctrines of the latins are corrupt.....there is no compromise in the Holy Orthodox Catholic and Apostolic Faith". Thank you, Father Gillquist, for your eloquent presentation of the One Holy Orthodox Apostolic Faith. Finding The New Testament Church : Fr Peter Gillquist
John 20:22: "He breathed on (all of) them : 'Receive the Holy Spirit: whose sins you forgive they are forgiven; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained". St. Bede confirms this as apostles' understanding in his commentary. In Matt 16:23 "Get thee behind me, Satan!" was spoken to Peter since he took the side of the enemy of Christ, Satan. So, he cannot be the head of any group as we see (Acts 15) Jerusalem Council: Peter and Paul both there, St. James presiding as bishop of Jerusalem.
Love his metafores.
amalialovesicecream metaphors
Eternal Memory then :(
Great sermon.
I am well aware of the Orthodox stand of primacy among and not over, but the lady I was talking to did not have a clue...as far as the authority of the Pope I am happy to engage anyone who at least accepts the orthodox teahing of primacy.
The headship of Peter is noted by all the fathers, and is even stated in ecumenical council. ...if you are an EOC member it is something ur church accepts.
Acts 11:26.
The Antiochian Orthodox Church should be the "New Rome" and the "New Constantinople." Antiochians came before Russians because Antioch was the second Patriarchal Center. Russia came way later.
I didn't mean anything bad. But tradition should be followed. Priests with beard also leave stronger spiritual impression on the People.
One thing I wish to respond to, and that is the Church Fathers (as much as I have been blessedand inspired by their writings) were not infallible! If they were alive today, I wonder how they would respond to how we have made them appear "infallible."
Memory iternal! Sorry not to have met father Peter.
"There is no doubt, and in fact it has been known in all ages, that the holy and most blessed Peter, prince and head of the apostles, pillar of the faith, and foundation of the Catholic Church, received the keys of the kingdom from our Lord Jesus Christ" ~ ecumentical council of Ephesus, acts of the council session 3.
I've heard Protestants preachers say that we shouldn't use written prayers because they are "vain repetitions". :/
PR Gunnels : the word that is important is "vain" . The psalms and "the prayers" are not vain repetitions.
@PapalSoldier Show me a document anywhere that proves Peter was the bishop in Rome.Antioch also holds the 'chair" since Peter was actually bishop there for seven years.
The problem is that there are different sources that state different things about this topic.....we agree though on the binding and loosing of sins
When I was a Baptist I was looking to become an Orthodox Catholic but the papacy kept getting in the way. It took me 5 years to leave the Baptist church and 2 more to became a Catholic form the Roman Rite. My Priest was a othr-Catholic and became Catholic also from the Roman Rite, After Becoming Catholic in 2000 my ex Baptist Pastor also came in with all his Family (wife,kids,mother,father bothers,sisters, and 180 people. He is now almost a Catholic Priest and so is his Dad. God bless.
It is a big issue that may never be worked out. From my understanding(and everyone has a different one becaues there is so much conflicting primary sources on the topic)Photius was excommunicated and then recanted and was reinstated.Then though he forged a letter from the Pope that gave authority for the rejection of the filioque. When Rome found out about this they excommunicated him again. This is probley must fitting seeing as how Rome and Constant did not reconcile untill long after Photius
In Scripture Peter was not called pope, the prince of the apostles, chief shepherd or head of the church. The only offices spoken of in scripture: Eph 4:11 & 1 Tim. 3 - apostle, prophets, evangelist, shepherds and teachers, overseer (bishop), deacon. Peter was called an apostle and servant (1 Pet 1:1/2 Pet 1:1) & fellow presbyter (1 Pet 5:1). I do understand how important customs are to us, but truth must ring true. Matt 8:14; Titus 1:1-6; Acts 10:25-26; John 20:21-23. Enjoy God's Word.
You're projecting your own cult status into everyone else! If you read the entire session here, the Roman legates wrote this up about their own .. ONly the papacy believes in Primacy of Peter. Orthodox Christians believe in the Holy Spirit as Head of Christ's Church - Who is the Vicar of Christ. Read, study and learn.
There is no record of Peter establishing the church in Rome. He assisted in establishing the churches in Antioch and Jerusalem. Paul organized the church in Rome. The fact that both Apostles were martyred there in significant.
And that cannon was struck and barred from the records...The Patriarch of Constant even wrote an apology letter to the Pope for this.
St. Cyril might have called him such, however, Jesus did not; nor did any other apostle address Peter in such manner. It sounds like you are a Roman Catholic, and I pray God's blessing be with you. If you want Peter to be the pope, then for you that is what he will be. Grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ; and may God's love flow fully in your life.
"Unto you Peter I give the Keys (Total authority) to the Kingdom of Heaven. And whatso ever you bind in the earth (The Kingdom of Heaven) I (Jesus)
will Bind in Heaven. Aman.
@mishakol129 That is really interesting, since there is a great drive for Orthodox Unity. The Joint Commission has been at resolving the issues between Eastern & Oriental Orthodoxy for over 40 yrs, and yet there is still division. Apart from doctrinal matters, others reasons are power & money. Large sums of money are sent from the Orthodox Churches in the USA to the "mother" churches overseas. In the USA they strive to be autocephalous (self-governing).
This man of God has died in the past year.
There are easily 2,000 different protestANT denominations in existence today, with between 3 to 10+ more popping up every day somewhere in America alone each one claiming and declaring they are right and everyone else is wrong. Non-denominational is simply another protestANT denomination. Check out the Orthodox Churches of America.
"As for those things which the universal Council of Chalcedon recently ordained in favor of the church of Constantinople, let Your Holiness be sure that there was no fault in me... It was the most reverend clergy of the church of Constantinople who where eager about it...Even so, the whole force of confirmation of the acts was reserved for the authority of Your Blessedness." -Patriarch Anatolius of Constantinople to Pope Leo, Ep 132 (on the subject of canon 28 of Chalcedon).
Why are the churches obeying government restrictions due to the covid “pandemic”? Why are some churches not doing Eucharist? Why are masks forced in order to worship? I recently just got chrismated but these things are bothering me. Isn’t the true Church of God suppose to be different and not compromise the faith? Seems like we fear a flu more than trust in Christ’s words. Idk it’s just troubling to me. Idk what to make of all of it. Trying to discern and let the Spirit guide me. Anyone have any input who has been in the Church for a long time?
A virus can be shared in a group meeting. That is what viruses are. It has happened in history that all the people died during epidemics. God gives us common sense so we must use it.
St Peter received God's revelation to the human heart when it was revealed to him that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.A few verses down in the same chapter, The Son Of God is calling St Peter satan. I conclude the Rock the Church is built upon is God's revelation to the human heart. Most pro-lifers have had this revelation, but none of us are claiming absolute authority over all Christendom. The church is not built upon the authority of the Papacy, rather the opposite. Our hearts are the Rock.
u dont read his book "becoming orthodox"? they come to orthodoxy in 1987, 2000 persons from diferent protestants beckgrounds. this is important more then to have bearb or not, my brother.
And certain men came from James.
PapalSoldier: A very interesting video can be found on TH-cam: Holy Orthodoxy: The Ancient Church of Acts in the 21st Century. Very informative.
Also : "It is necessary to know that this decision [the 28th canon] was not accepted by the Blessed Pope Leo. He did not approve the holy Council of Chalcedon on this point, but he wrote to the Council that he could not accept such a novelty, machinated by the doubtful Anatolius, then bishop of Constantinople. Also, some bishops present at the Council refused to subscribe to the canon. And it is not true as this canon affirms that the holy Fathers have accorded the primacy and honor to..cont...
yes u are right, but ' filosofum non barba facit'. God blass u! i am from romania and in my country like in basarabia and russsia not all prists have bearb!
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cont... old Rome because it was the capital of the Empire. But it is from on high that it began, it is of grace divine that this Primacy has derived its origin. It is because of the degree of his faith that Peter, the most exalted of the Apostles, heard these words from the very mouth of Our Lord: ‘Peter, lovest thou Me? Feed My sheep’. This is why he possesses among the hierarchs preeminent rank and the first See" ~ St Methodius
@PapalSoldier OK and next citate ??? εἰ δυνατόν τὸ ἐξ ὑμῶν μετὰ πάντων ἀνθρώπων εἰρηνεύοντες (Romans 12:18)If you can!!!
he cannot have a beard, he died in 2012, i think he is a saint in Jesus hend, is more importatn what he do for the church, then he have no bearb. in rusia, romania and others orthodox countries are a lots of orthodox prists who have no beard. an they are orthodox
first bishop of rome was st. clement the roman
@PapalSoldier It is not my logic. It is factual. If you think for one moment I am making this stuff up, you are simply delusional.
what do u mean? the beard is a cusmom not holy tradition, if u look in icons u ca see siants who have no beard
@PapalSoldier orthodox catholic church against contraception!
Are you not Eastern Orthodox?
Intresting that none protested and the acts at Chalcedon where not made by paple legates....I'll tell you what you pick a father and I'll show you he believed in the primacy of Peter
@PapalSoldier My Church , not papa's church!
If you look closely at the book of acts you will find James was leading the church not Peter. While it is true that Peter did establish the church in Rome the same could be said about Antioch. We will never reunite the church if we insult each other.
Reunification is a Psyop.
Repentance is what is needed.
Repentance of Filioque, Papal Supremacy, the establishment of Schismatic Bishops and 1000 years of false teachings
Dear brother, you are right: this group has brought a papal/protestant understanding into the Faith -tragically. They did not have the humility to be taught as I said before. They remind me of RCatholic priests (i.e. bellicose, twirling their cross in their hand, ignoring women as is usual in evangelical Augustinians). The End Times have brought these tares into the wheatfields to test those in the Holy Faith - so that they will be strong in the face of these heretics and their ilk.
What is your problem once the Pope ( the high priest in the Earth) bind your sins in the earth, Jesus said he will bind them in Heaven . The argue ment is over. Okay
simon is equal to jacob of the Old Testament. Jacob was called israel and simon was called Peter. The head of the New Jew (the Catholics)is peter (his office) is established, the head of the Church as Jacob was the Head of the old Jew. Jesus is the Father of this New Jew (the Catholics) and he gave his power in the Earth (the kingdom of Heaven to Peter. Aman.
Christians do the Will of God, which is stated plainly in the responses of Jesus Christ to temptations from the devil. We do not serve ourselves, live for bread alone, or tempt God. This obedience maintains spiritual life in all 3 relationship that contain spiritual life, God to man, man to man, and man's physical to his spiritual nature. Spiritual life is required to receive Eternal Life. If you serve yourself, live for bread alone, and tempt God, you desolate all spiritual life in the human soul. This is abomination of desolation. Done in the Holy Place, by rev 13 vs 13 ( Holy Sepulcher), it is time to flee. God will launch a total war against the beast, because of temptation, in the Holy Place, where it ought not to be. Let the reader understand.
@DallPro95 , Call the sects then , or private man made Church' . The fact still remains Protestant Christianity is filled with thousands of competing voices , all of which can not be correct .
Not at all, the EOC accepts that Peter was head but his headship was a primacy while they claim that Rome took the primacy to supremacy....but the EOC accepts the headship of Peter the prince of the apostles
lexandria, but the Council of Chalcedon confirmed in Canon XXVIII:
Privileges granted to old Rome,as former seat of empire. "150 ..Bishops, ... gave equal privileges (ἴσα πρεσβεῖα) to the most holy throne of (Constantinople)New Rome, justly judging that the city which is honored with the Sovereignty and the Senate and enjoys equal privileges with the old imperial Rome, ..r.[16] " Thus saith the Council of Chalcedon! Peter and Paul were both martyred in Old Rome, another reason for its honor.
@PapalSoldier No, I am factual. You keep on repeating the same nonsense. The "church of Rome as head", not universal or infallible. Stop reading into things that are not evident.
Since EOC doesn't know this: we don't follow legalisms of any of the councils. We follow the directions of the All-Holy Spirit's understanding of the application of these councils. Otherwise, the council of Florence would be in effect. Pharisees never see the Light of Christ since they are trapped by their own befuddlements. For any "law" one can find the opposing "law" - follow instead the understanding of the entire Orthodox Church with councils confirmed by Laity not just clergy.
Most of the EOC became "Orthodox" or so they said. One of their priests presents papist doctrines (i.e."Apostolic Succession through laying on of hands") as if they were Orthodox. They were directed by their bishop to continue studies in the Faith; those I know have not..so far. Many are arrogant, dismissive of other Orthodox, and pompous like the Protestants they still are. I know of some among them who are good priests - I just haven't met them.
Jesus started one Church and that was the Catholic Church with Bishops and Peter was the main Bishop and since he was Martyred in Rome that became the a Holy place since Rome was the worse pagan place in the world, God wanted to get Christianity to Rome and convert Romans and have them stop worshiping the Empire. Many Different Orthodox churches claim that the Roman Rite (Roman Catholic Church) broke from them, question: Did the Orth-Churches ever have Popes? NO, There were many Popes by 1054.
Evidently, you have difficulty discerning the difference between Orthodox doctrine and RC teachings?
Holy Tradition is the problem with this group - and of course, humility to be taught. I've heard one arrogant priest say that Apostolic Succession is "given" by laying on of hands. This is the papal teaching.d. If Protestants "adopt" robes of priests and outer trappings without the teachings of our Holy Faith, we have Roman Catholicism since protestants are Augustinian and will bring this pan-heresy philosopher into their "Orthodox" understanding.
"Wherefore the most holy and blessed Leo, archbishop of the great and elder Rome, through us, and through this present most holy synod together with the thrice-blessed and all-glorious Peter the Apostle, who is the Rock and foundation of the Catholic Church, and the foundation of the orthodox faith" ~ Acts of ecumentical council of Chalcedon, Session 3...really anyone who claims to be part of the Orthodox church can not state Peter is not head....you must be part of some little cult breakoff
Again pick a father, anyone u want, and I will show u he believed in the primacy of Peter....it is an unquestioned issue to the fathers.
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