15:14 “All you need to start a new denomination is two disgruntled Christians and a pot of coffee.” 😂😂😂 So true. Before becoming Orthodox I was part of a church that formed out of a split from another church in town. I also did some “worship” assistance for two other churches who also were going through or had formed from a split. Then I saw people bounce from church to church within a 5-15 mile radius when they had a conflict with leadership, or weren’t being “fed” anymore, or wanted a different preacher, better worship band or more kids programming. 🤦♂️ Lord have mercy. What we all need is the true Church with the true Faith. Thank God I found Orthodoxy.
23:09 Indeed. The sense of lack, the desire for more, is part of why people either don’t come to church that often in evangelicalism, stop going to church, or why they often hop between different churches every few years. I saw that with so many people as an evangelical. It was primarily their friendships that kept them coming, or a commitment to serve. Not saying there aren’t exceptions, but Fr. Peter’s statement has a lot of truth to it.
Pastor Joe Wittwer of Life Center in Spokane WA read "Love Is Now" by Mr. Gillquist over 50 years ago. He still says it is the most influential book he ever read. I read it twice.
31:01 indeed the devil loves disunity, but he also loves ecumenism. It’s a delicate thing to seek to love the heterodox, but also to maintain the boundaries of the Faith and the Church. We need to give them the “good uneasiness” as St. Paisios said, so that they don’t think we are telling them they are all ok in their heresy.
My dad grew up believing he had a calling to serve God and went to Episcopal seminary, and became a priest, but converted to Orthodoxy in 1975 in response to liberalizations and he bypassed Roman Catholicism seeing the potential for similar liberalizations and also an abandonment of Rome from the ecumenical tradition and idolization of the Pope as vicar of Christ, implying a deficiency in the immanent reality of Christ's presence in the Church. In Orthodoxy, the Church is lead by the Holy Spirit, piloted by Christ and ruddered by the ecumenical canons. About a dozen members of his Episcopal Church found out he was converting and came with him to create a mission, which was briefly mentioned in Fr. Schmemann's journals. Later, he came to Transfiguration of Christ in Denver, and served that parish for 25 years.
I wish I had discovered the Orthodox Church while I was at Purdue. That would have saved us sooo much trouble. Instead, I read Orthodoxy, by GK Chesterton, which probably saved some trouble. Of course, he was a professional troll, maybe not a role model. But he did believe in the bible more than anything or anyone else. But CRU was definitely huge for me. (They didn't like, "Crusade", for some reason.) I think it was more the communal, ascetic life of Cary South that did it, but the community in there was so thick you could barely breathe. But it took me a long time to realize that Jesus Himself submitted to His traditions, that this was absolutely necessary for my salvation, since I was trying to be like Him. Everybody seemed to be the opposite, even most church preachers seemed to want to keep convincing me the Bible was true, or show me that it lined up with modern psychology, and I'm like "ok, i don't care, show me where it deviates, because the modern world is a hundred nightmares." -in loving memory of GK Chesterton, may he rest in Christ.
The Bible is not the foundation of Orthodoxy, but a witness, and an organic component of Orthodox Liturgy which only maintains it's full meaning when used by the church, for the church. Christ didn't tell the Apostles to pass out bibles to the nations. The Epistles and Gospels were the new Tenakh and Torah readings for the Sunday liturgy. Protestantism literally takes a component of the Liturgy, excises it, and dismisses the body that it was meant to serve, and which also pumped blood into. It's like saying that the body needs oxygen, so if we can get a set of lungs we can DO Christianity.
Christianity is after all jewish in nature so why would it not be sacramental, liturgical ,, hierarchical Marion , tradition - GOD wants order not chaos - JESUS JESUS JESU all GLORY TO JESUS
Appears the Christ is coming back to “Unite” all of us. Everyone. Perhaps more people should take the time to listen in full context to the books of the Ethiopian Bible. We are to all be brought back together. As we know, we are here to learn to love thy neighbors, ALL of them. It’s why we’re told to read those books and use our own discernment. 🕊️🕯️🌈✌🏼💕
Does the Pope have to appologize for his predecessor? Obviously there must be acknowledgement. But is there guilt? It seems like it's the same question as whether the American Blacks deserve reparations from the American Whites (or the American Government, depending who you ask)? How long are we allowed to visit the sins of our fathers?
Russia has had the democratic voting in of official’s since they stopped being Communist in 1991. So Russian Ivan from Moscow in 2010 already knew what living in a Free country was like. The scenario was not historically correct.
Is this man an orthodox priest? I ask this because he has short hair and no beard and a white collar....I see this for the frist time and this is not orthodox tradition....I do not mean to offend him, just strange to me.
I just looked him up. He is an Archpriest in the Antioch Orthodox Church. I agree, he looks more like a Roman Catholic priest with that collar and no beard.
At the time the Archbishop of the Antiochian jurisdiction in America encouraged this "look" so priests wouldn't appear so foreign in the eyes of westerners. There was also a time following 9/11 where due to wanting to avoid being attacked in misguided xenophobia many Antiochian priests kept their facial hair short or non existent...
Literally correct, and mostly irrelevant. God never trusted any human being born of man and woman more than her. I even venerate her parents, although not very well, since I just started venerating. 🙏Sts Joachim and Anne, well done, please pray for us!
May his memory be eternal. ☦️
15:14 “All you need to start a new denomination is two disgruntled Christians and a pot of coffee.” 😂😂😂 So true. Before becoming Orthodox I was part of a church that formed out of a split from another church in town. I also did some “worship” assistance for two other churches who also were going through or had formed from a split. Then I saw people bounce from church to church within a 5-15 mile radius when they had a conflict with leadership, or weren’t being “fed” anymore, or wanted a different preacher, better worship band or more kids programming. 🤦♂️
Lord have mercy. What we all need is the true Church with the true Faith. Thank God I found Orthodoxy.
Christianity = of the world but not in it. Christ = idol of hypocrisy. 'The Church' = whited sepulchres and vast dens of thieves.
This is my Priest's father I never got to meet him but the Bloomington parish is growing
23:09 Indeed. The sense of lack, the desire for more, is part of why people either don’t come to church that often in evangelicalism, stop going to church, or why they often hop between different churches every few years. I saw that with so many people as an evangelical. It was primarily their friendships that kept them coming, or a commitment to serve. Not saying there aren’t exceptions, but Fr. Peter’s statement has a lot of truth to it.
Pastor Joe Wittwer of Life Center in Spokane WA read "Love Is Now" by Mr. Gillquist over 50 years ago. He still says it is the most influential book he ever read. I read it twice.
A wonderful man! May his memory be eternal!
31:01 indeed the devil loves disunity, but he also loves ecumenism. It’s a delicate thing to seek to love the heterodox, but also to maintain the boundaries of the Faith and the Church. We need to give them the “good uneasiness” as St. Paisios said, so that they don’t think we are telling them they are all ok in their heresy.
My dad grew up believing he had a calling to serve God and went to Episcopal seminary, and became a priest, but converted to Orthodoxy in 1975 in response to liberalizations and he bypassed Roman Catholicism seeing the potential for similar liberalizations and also an abandonment of Rome from the ecumenical tradition and idolization of the Pope as vicar of Christ, implying a deficiency in the immanent reality of Christ's presence in the Church. In Orthodoxy, the Church is lead by the Holy Spirit, piloted by Christ and ruddered by the ecumenical canons. About a dozen members of his Episcopal Church found out he was converting and came with him to create a mission, which was briefly mentioned in Fr. Schmemann's journals. Later, he came to Transfiguration of Christ in Denver, and served that parish for 25 years.
Amen, to these observations through God’s Grace!
I wish I had discovered the Orthodox Church while I was at Purdue. That would have saved us sooo much trouble. Instead, I read Orthodoxy, by GK Chesterton, which probably saved some trouble. Of course, he was a professional troll, maybe not a role model. But he did believe in the bible more than anything or anyone else.
But CRU was definitely huge for me. (They didn't like, "Crusade", for some reason.) I think it was more the communal, ascetic life of Cary South that did it, but the community in there was so thick you could barely breathe. But it took me a long time to realize that Jesus Himself submitted to His traditions, that this was absolutely necessary for my salvation, since I was trying to be like Him. Everybody seemed to be the opposite, even most church preachers seemed to want to keep convincing me the Bible was true, or show me that it lined up with modern psychology, and I'm like "ok, i don't care, show me where it deviates, because the modern world is a hundred nightmares."
-in loving memory of GK Chesterton, may he rest in Christ.
The Bible is not the foundation of Orthodoxy, but a witness, and an organic component of Orthodox Liturgy which only maintains it's full meaning when used by the church, for the church. Christ didn't tell the Apostles to pass out bibles to the nations. The Epistles and Gospels were the new Tenakh and Torah readings for the Sunday liturgy. Protestantism literally takes a component of the Liturgy, excises it, and dismisses the body that it was meant to serve, and which also pumped blood into. It's like saying that the body needs oxygen, so if we can get a set of lungs we can DO Christianity.
Christianity is after all jewish in nature so why would it not be sacramental, liturgical ,, hierarchical Marion , tradition - GOD wants order not chaos - JESUS JESUS JESU all GLORY TO JESUS
Appears the Christ is coming back to “Unite” all of us. Everyone. Perhaps more people should take the time to listen in full context to the books of the Ethiopian Bible. We are to all be brought back together. As we know, we are here to learn to love thy neighbors, ALL of them. It’s why we’re told to read those books and use our own discernment. 🕊️🕯️🌈✌🏼💕
✝️Christus Rex☦️
Does the Pope have to appologize for his predecessor? Obviously there must be acknowledgement. But is there guilt? It seems like it's the same question as whether the American Blacks deserve reparations from the American Whites (or the American Government, depending who you ask)? How long are we allowed to visit the sins of our fathers?
Russia has had the democratic voting in of official’s since they stopped being Communist in 1991. So Russian Ivan from Moscow in 2010 already knew what living in a Free country was like. The scenario was not historically correct.
He’s just telling a story, it’s not factual, it’s an illustration.
😇🕊️💎♾️
Is this man an orthodox priest? I ask this because he has short hair and no beard and a white collar....I see this for the frist time and this is not orthodox tradition....I do not mean to offend him, just strange to me.
I just looked him up. He is an Archpriest in the Antioch Orthodox Church. I agree, he looks more like a Roman Catholic priest with that collar and no beard.
Not all Orthodox priests have beards and it is not a prerequisite for becoming a priest.
you cannot offend him. he is dead.
i met him in the early 1980s and believed him to be a good man. 😊
At the time the Archbishop of the Antiochian jurisdiction in America encouraged this "look" so priests wouldn't appear so foreign in the eyes of westerners. There was also a time following 9/11 where due to wanting to avoid being attacked in misguided xenophobia many Antiochian priests kept their facial hair short or non existent...
He can't grow a beard.
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Mary worship is not of God
Good thing the Orthodox don't worship Mary
The Mother of God is not worshiped. She is Holy as the chosen vessel for God.
Literally correct, and mostly irrelevant. God never trusted any human being born of man and woman more than her. I even venerate her parents, although not very well, since I just started venerating. 🙏Sts Joachim and Anne, well done, please pray for us!
Praying to Mary is heresy.