Zorga Nadir (Wolfren) vs Welstra Blitz Arms (Yoru). Comentated match

Hi everyone! Dvbt01 is finnaly here! This time we cover the match up between Fated one of taboo, zorga nadir and Fated one of guiding star, Welstra Blitz arms. This game is special for me as it features 2 of my favourite decks, Hope you enjoy de video, and see you soon!
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[@redvg11]

Hey wolfren been wondering if there is any update on specifically dzbt01 zorga, Cuz I can't wait for zorga nadir even if he is just 1 month away 😢 having the zorga drought rn and thinking if there is any interesting tech I can use in dzbt 01

[@ZorgaVS]

Hellow! truth be told, zorga masques is perfect as it is jeje im playing the same list as always and it do feel very strong (Honestly, i competes perfectly into everything in current meta and i plan on taking it to bsf france)
Post dvt02 i will make an update talking about how Nadir can also improve Zorga masques, if you do still like it over Nadir, and ofc, more Zorga Nadir content will be comming in the future :3
(Sorry for taking me 3 years to reply )

[@wpys6931]

May I ask about tearful malice ruling?Since if i alche with death from bind,the order I use from hand will go to bind also. So if alche with tear in bind,does the order I use from hand go to soul?Tq

[@ZorgaVS]

If malice is in bind, the order from hand will go to soul, unless its specifcly overcoming. Then overcoming will go to bind and no order goes to soul
If malice is used from hand it will go to soul

[@wpys6931]

@@ZorgaVS Thx for explanation.

[@wpys6931]

@@ZorgaVS If for zorga masque,I alche tear from hand with random order in drop,do both orders go to soul?Same question for situation where tear is in drop.

[@ZorgaVS]

@@wpys6931 only the order from hand goes to soul :3 the other is getting bound

[@zexrom1297]

Im curious about zorga masq against shiranui matchup and how to play it. also why the deck doesnt need ladder. also to explain the ruling for shadowcloaks being called over and still being able to bounce.
sorry if its too many or too loaded of a question thanks in advance
(DZBT01)

[@ZorgaVS]

No problem! Questions are welcome!
1) Ladder: in masques you need doll to find the zorga and the persona ride. Gameplay wise, the deck beats the decks without using ladder, so there is no actual need for the card
2) Shadow: it procs after the costs are paid. The card doesn't say it you need to have them on any location (drop, rear...etc...). You can resolve it because it was already triggered and there is no conditons on where it has to be.
3) shiranui: you try to go second. If you go 1st, g2 game is rly efective. They usually die before being able to oboro. I will record that game i think! Since i haven t been able just yet!

[@zexrom1297]

@@ZorgaVS this was a nice short and concise read thanks again. Excited for nadir and I like your idea of using masq for better first g3 turn.

[@ZorgaVS]

@@zexrom1297 tbh, i feel nadir is designed taking masques into account. Nadir improves masques for many reasons:
-better t3 (you can call 5/10k stronger boosters or intercept with shadows/guard with cows and call them again. You can even force a pg 1 turn earlier and call it.
-with masques, you can use nadir as recursion
- nadir is bad t3, but with masques you use nadir and still hit huge
I think nadir is a bit slow intendedly. They mix rly well

[@ZorgaVS]

@@zexrom1297 tbh, i feel nadir is designed taking masques into account. Nadir improves masques for many reasons:
-better t3 (you can call 5/10k stronger boosters or intercept with shadows/guard with cows and call them again. You can even force a pg 1 turn earlier and call it.
-with masques, you can use nadir as recursion
- nadir is bad t3, but with masques you use nadir and still hit huge
I think nadir is a bit slow intendedly. They mix rly well

[@dylangoh1351]

Game 3 in ur first turn, u have to return habitat to bottom deck from fairy’s skill. It’s even more of a reason why that play isn’t remotely optimal

[@ZorgaVS]

The card that goed to the bottom is the one that fairy mills. In that case, the card that has to go to the bottom is black magics. (Fortunately i do not forget and i put it back jaja)
However, any card fairy mills will go to bind if used paired with overcoming and to soul if played alongside tearful malice.
If you don t want the card to leave, you can do that and the order will remain for you to play it more times :3
Habitat goes to bind here because its nadir cost to place it there.

[@ZorgaVS]

The card to stay* not leave

[@dylangoh1351]

U used fairy on turn 1 to mill habitat and u used habitat then so it should go back it’s at 45:33

[@dylangoh1351]

But that same habitat stayed in drop zone throughout

[@dylangoh1351]

I only point this one out cause it has quite srs implications for that particular game, it would’ve affected ur turn 3 quite a bit. But other than that vid was good, first 2 games played well

[@dylangoh1351]

Also I realised why ur hand size as zorga is big these games. I don’t think the welstra player knows that u can operate max without paying the cb1 cost to bring it out. There r many times where he should be going for the -5k and retire and instead he goes for 1 draw and lets u guard easily

[@ZorgaVS]

I think sometimes you just need to draw cards. Like, if you do not have pgs for exemple. I believe sometimes you would draw more instead of pressuring (however i do not remember if that is the case in those games)
When i play welstra i try to do a lot of max for more pressure, but sometimes you do still need to draw. Im not sure if that was the case here