This was an interesting keyboard in many ways but needs some work... Assembly is the biggest issue I feel, among other minor things. While they recommend to install everything one the PCB / try is slide in, I don’t agree with this nor do I feel that is possible for the solder version of the build. Some notes from the designers / moee.tech in regards to my issues on stream: 1. Pcb transport damage problem, we have found this problem, and plan to solve this problem by gluing and prove the effect. 2. The size problem of the pcb (especially the incompatibility of the stabilizer in the upper right corner) has been identified and a sample test for size modification will be conducted immediately. 3. The spacing problem of the shell will be re-sized and publicized. 4. Assembly fluency: Because the instruction manual is missing about the need to remove the block on the back of the tray, it will be added to the instruction manual. They also mentioned that the strips of teflon are no longer needed or recommended for the build, I do consider this is a concern for me since I wouldn’t want the PC parts to rub and grind against the finish of the board in any capacity. But they do stress they recommend sliding tin the tray and parts before assembling the build. While this is a lot of feedback I present in the video, I really hope Moee.tech takes this to heart and makes needed changes to the board / instructions for people interested to understand. The board did have a lot of fun stuff too, and I hope it doesn’t get lost in my video! EDIT: They also have stated they will make needed changes for any major issues for this round of the GB.
I think it really speaks volumes that they responded well (and quickly!) to all the feedback you gave. The company doesn't strike me as just trying to get in on the hobby for a quick buck - they've clearly put a lot of thought and effort into creating something unique and fun as you said. Looking forward to future iterations of this board!
I think they should just keep that overall design but turn it into a 2 piece case. That whole tray slide in functionality looks incredibly frustrating. And any time a silicone mute pad is included it becomes an automatic minus points. Sounds great from Alex's sound tests though, which is quite surprising since the X-Ray keycaps sound kinda thuddy. But it sounds really bright here which I love.
They should give another flat plate that you can screw into the pcb, like made out of a blank pcb that you can screw into the bottom pcb and compress all the stems for the switches. Then once it’s slid in you just unscrew the top plate and pull it off. That would allow for soldered builds to be removed no hassle and for a cheap price.
It's so interesting that they went through all the effort to include both hotswap and solder in one PCB, only to make the solder option functionally unusable due to the slide-in design. Many solderable builds with this board will also run into north-facing LED interference, which makes it even more undesirable. Very pleasing design but not very informed on best practices in the hobby in my opinion!
It looks awesome, but thats a very weird slide system. I like your alternate idea of making the rear plate like a cap. Also I was thinking it should have a sticky slide system. You know like you click down to remove the pcb and when your ready > slide it in > then double click it back up without the switch interference with a spring sort of system. That would be interesting.
really cool looking board but i’ll wait it out in hope that they do a improved r3. looks amazing with xray tho, that’s what got me checking it out in the first place. waiting on my xray set to arrive 😅
Hello @Alexotos and hello to the community, I am looking to to build my first custom keyboard for work and gaming but as I am new the hobby I would like some advise from you of where to start. I tried a few websites but looks so chaotic to me, thank you for your time .
Despite all of the issues, looks like a much, way better alternative than the "boop 65" (R2) and its horrible, cheap looking bottom; I still don't understand why they didn't keep the R1 bottom's design.
This was an interesting keyboard in many ways but needs some work... Assembly is the biggest issue I feel, among other minor things. While they recommend to install everything one the PCB / try is slide in, I don’t agree with this nor do I feel that is possible for the solder version of the build.
Some notes from the designers / moee.tech in regards to my issues on stream:
1. Pcb transport damage problem, we have found this problem, and plan to solve this problem by gluing and prove the effect.
2. The size problem of the pcb (especially the incompatibility of the stabilizer in the upper right corner) has been identified and a sample test for size modification will be conducted immediately.
3. The spacing problem of the shell will be re-sized and publicized.
4. Assembly fluency: Because the instruction manual is missing about the need to remove the block on the back of the tray, it will be added to the instruction manual.
They also mentioned that the strips of teflon are no longer needed or recommended for the build, I do consider this is a concern for me since I wouldn’t want the PC parts to rub and grind against the finish of the board in any capacity. But they do stress they recommend sliding tin the tray and parts before assembling the build.
While this is a lot of feedback I present in the video, I really hope Moee.tech takes this to heart and makes needed changes to the board / instructions for people interested to understand. The board did have a lot of fun stuff too, and I hope it doesn’t get lost in my video!
EDIT: They also have stated they will make needed changes for any major issues for this round of the GB.
I think it really speaks volumes that they responded well (and quickly!) to all the feedback you gave. The company doesn't strike me as just trying to get in on the hobby for a quick buck - they've clearly put a lot of thought and effort into creating something unique and fun as you said. Looking forward to future iterations of this board!
do you solder all your boards because they have a better sound/feel? i don't know which type to buy although i can do both
seeing u put that pcb into the case scares me
Me too.
Bummer that this was such a rough build process cause the concept and look of this is super cool
oh wow, i was about to lube my boards before a meet today so i decided to pull up your channel, and you just posted! haha. love your vids
Those X-ray key caps are amazing
If they make an R3 with the changes you talked about including front height and installation issues, I'd be so down to to buy. Here's to hoping!
Interesting idea that doesn’t seem quite there yet. Hope they keep going though
This board reminds me a lot of the Pixelspace Capsule65. I like my Capsule so I think I'll be passing on this one, but I do really like this
I think they should just keep that overall design but turn it into a 2 piece case. That whole tray slide in functionality looks incredibly frustrating. And any time a silicone mute pad is included it becomes an automatic minus points. Sounds great from Alex's sound tests though, which is quite surprising since the X-Ray keycaps sound kinda thuddy. But it sounds really bright here which I love.
They should give another flat plate that you can screw into the pcb, like made out of a blank pcb that you can screw into the bottom pcb and compress all the stems for the switches. Then once it’s slid in you just unscrew the top plate and pull it off. That would allow for soldered builds to be removed no hassle and for a cheap price.
The keyboard part felt more like an afterthought
!! One of the keyboards of all time !!
It’s not bad… $140-150 dollars seems a little expensive for that imo
You also need to keep in mind that I could go get a tigerlite case for about the same price and have something arguably better
It's so interesting that they went through all the effort to include both hotswap and solder in one PCB, only to make the solder option functionally unusable due to the slide-in design. Many solderable builds with this board will also run into north-facing LED interference, which makes it even more undesirable. Very pleasing design but not very informed on best practices in the hobby in my opinion!
Exactly what I thought. Doesn't seem very thought out
It''s a CNC demo, it's quite impressive to have a unibody alumimum frame but then we have to ask why?
Hey Alex what keycaps do you have on the mode in the background?
It looks awesome, but thats a very weird slide system. I like your alternate idea of making the rear plate like a cap. Also I was thinking it should have a sticky slide system. You know like you click down to remove the pcb and when your ready > slide it in > then double click it back up without the switch interference with a spring sort of system. That would be interesting.
really cool looking board but i’ll wait it out in hope that they do a improved r3. looks amazing with xray tho, that’s what got me checking it out in the first place. waiting on my xray set to arrive 😅
Improvements are definitely needed! They also have stated they will make needed changes for any major issues for this round of the GB. So thats good!
Hello @Alexotos and hello to the community, I am looking to to build my first custom keyboard for work and gaming but as I am new the hobby I would like some advise from you of where to start. I tried a few websites but looks so chaotic to me, thank you for your time .
new desk? 👀
I need that deskpad, where did you get it?
If i were the company, i would have just offered hotswap pcb with multiple layouts and nothing else. No solder pcb.
where is the dune65?
what keycaps are on your Mode Sonnet?
KKB Vibrato.
What desk mat is that?
Ordinary Labs Dymium Deskpad
notice how theres almost no group buys these days
Huh
that winkey blocker on the right being aligned more to the right is painful!
woo, new video!
Lol I guess that's why they included a ruler
vendors sending out boards with missing screws is just unacceptable to me.
Looks like a keyboard from 3042
😂alienware keyboard design vibe, but this one requires DIY....
This seems like a terrible user experience
major flaw in UX
Despite all of the issues, looks like a much, way better alternative than the "boop 65" (R2) and its horrible, cheap looking bottom; I still don't understand why they didn't keep the R1 bottom's design.
"5 min ago"
im early
the pixelspace65 is better
Love the deskmat Alex! Where is it from ?