I ride a 2007 MachZX with 10,000 miles on it. Absolutely love this machine. If you treat them well they will treat you well. They were so ahead of their time. They will still run with almost anything built today.
They are amazing sleds if you know and understand all of their nuances. You are right they were way ahead for their time and most techs were not properly trained or prepared to work on them.
I really enjoyed watching your videos. Your knowledge is incredible ,it made me wonder though. Would you by any chance know the production numbers for the 2007 spring order MachZX? I would be interested in production numbers for all years if you know them. I did read somewhere that there was 800 millennium Mach Zs made not sure if that’s accurate or not. And I believe the 05 MachZ is the highest production year? Thanks again and keep the videos coming.
The BRP museum should be able to tell you the production numbers of the 07’ ZX. There were 800 Millennium Mach Z’s made. 400 for Ca and 400 for the US. One digit difference in the model number and the CA versions odometers were in KM and the US were in MPH. Although I don’t know for sure the highest production year Mach Z was either 1998 or 2005. The 05’s there will likely be fewer survive/exist because of so many being parted out after engine failures.
These sleds ran well. I had a ZR 900 with a y-pipe, single pipe and can, trail port, head decked, clutched (all D&D), fully picked. At a big drag one of these was there and he was right with me. He won some I won some, traction was limited and pretty much whoever got the start won. I couldn't overcome him at the end if he got the start. The guy claimed there wasn't much done to it but I didn't know the guy.
Had an '07 Mach Z X. Great slead. Went over it from top to bottom. Swapped out the stock pump for a proper bosch pump and mounted it in the foot well, next to the battery, sealed up the air box, balanced and vented the clutches, etc. The secret to keeping these engines going long term was to turn up the oil pump and add about a half cup of injector oil to each tank of fuel. Doo's at that time packed the outer crank bearings with Isoflex grease and the inner bearings relied on whatever airraded oil was floating around in the crank case...which in hindsight was a pretty crap design. They worked great a few thousand miles, but eventually you'd have to tear down the block and repack the outer bearings...and if they, or the inner crank and rod bearings were bad, replace the crankshaft. And if you let them go too long, the rods would usually get sloppy come apart and window the case. Then I got creative and added a set of Crank Shop twin pipes, fuel controller and did some clutching....and the thing was an absolute weapon. I did eventually blow it up, fooling around with the Boondocker control box while doing speed passes one afternoon. That proved to be a pretty costly mistake...but it did give me the opportunity to get into the engine. I ended up taking things a step further with the rebuild and drilled the lower half of the case to drip oil directly on the center bearings, which combined with everything else, pretty much took care of lubrication issues. Ran it 2-3 more years after that. I ended up selling it to a guy in Michigan about 8-years-ago. And wouldn't you know it, he messaged me last winter and told me he had put about 5,000-miles on it since I sold it to him and wondered if he should tear it down to rebuild it. I asked him if it blew up, but he claimed that it was still running as strong as the day I sold it to him, that he just hadn't heard of one lasting that long. lol
@@skidoojunky6230 Ironically Dustin, I probably learned half of the little idiosyncrasies of this sled, over hundreds of threads I'd rummaged through, or participated in on Dootalk, from yourself and others like you who were elbow deep in them during their heyday. Do you still frequent the site?
121mph first motor 122 second and current motor who knows how accurate it is. To me one of the most fun parts about the sled is 60 to 80 miles per hour. It does it in a blink. My dealer told me when new Skidoo had oil setting low to make it look like it was good on oil. With the new motor he said it will get more oil. It smokes a little more but so far so good.
Hey there. I just stumbled on this video. I have recently acquired serial number 4, also a 2005 prototype. I am in the process of restoring this sled as it’s been sitting in a field for years and full of mice. It was pre mechanical fuel pump as well. It only had the 1 HP pump in the tank. I’m looking at installing a fuel pressure gauge as well. Do you have the list of parts and any pics of how and where to mount the gauge? Thanks, love the video.
Yes, autometer atm3312 gauge, atm2121 gauge mounting cup. A 2’ stainless fuel line with no 4an female ends on both, 4an male run T, 2 of 4an female to 1/4” hose barb push lock fittings and 2 eyelet solderless connectors to hook up the backlight on the pressure gauge to the backlight on the fuel gauge.
Humm, I’d like to hear more about you fuel pump mod. I have an 05 and recently blew the motor. It only had about 4000mi on a new motor. I believe the fuel pump failed and it just came to a grinding hault on the trail. I’m not even sure what to expect when I open it up. I hope a home and piston will fix it. Nothing I have ever ridden puts a smile on my face like this Mach does and I’d love to get her back on the go again.
Back in 05 my new Mxzx800 ptec would outrun my buddy’s 05 Mach Z top speed. The following year he bought an 06 and it was a different sled, would walk me without a problem.
A lot of the 05’s were underachievers out of the box. With a few grams of pin weight in the primary they were rocket ships. Definitely under clutched out of the box in 05
They were definitely not for anyone. Like I told someone earlier today. I would love to own a new one today knowing what I know now. I really think the longevity and reliability could be greatly increased
Awsome knowledge ! Thank you for sharing with us.
My pleasure!
Another good one, Thanks,
You bet!
Great info on the '05 Mach Z! Thanks for another great video!
Glad you enjoyed!
Lots of great info. Good story too. Now I want one!
As long as it’s for a static display! lol! Otherwise I would NEVER suggest owning one!!😂
I ride a 2007 MachZX with 10,000 miles on it. Absolutely love this machine. If you treat them well they will treat you well. They were so ahead of their time. They will still run with almost anything built today.
They are amazing sleds if you know and understand all of their nuances. You are right they were way ahead for their time and most techs were not properly trained or prepared to work on them.
I really enjoyed watching your videos. Your knowledge is incredible ,it made me wonder though. Would you by any chance know the production numbers for the 2007 spring order MachZX? I would be interested in production numbers for all years if you know them. I did read somewhere that there was 800 millennium Mach Zs made not sure if that’s accurate or not. And I believe the 05 MachZ is the highest production year? Thanks again and keep the videos coming.
The BRP museum should be able to tell you the production numbers of the 07’ ZX.
There were 800 Millennium Mach Z’s made. 400 for Ca and 400 for the US. One digit difference in the model number and the CA versions odometers were in KM and the US were in MPH.
Although I don’t know for sure the highest production year Mach Z was either 1998 or 2005. The 05’s there will likely be fewer survive/exist because of so many being parted out after engine failures.
Awesome video. Great info on the Mach Z. Love these sleds, had one for a little while, of course it blew up and broke the case.
Unfortunately a very normal occurrence for these sleds
These sleds ran well. I had a ZR 900 with a y-pipe, single pipe and can, trail port, head decked, clutched (all D&D), fully picked. At a big drag one of these was there and he was right with me. He won some I won some, traction was limited and pretty much whoever got the start won. I couldn't overcome him at the end if he got the start. The guy claimed there wasn't much done to it but I didn't know the guy.
Had an '07 Mach Z X. Great slead. Went over it from top to bottom. Swapped out the stock pump for a proper bosch pump and mounted it in the foot well, next to the battery, sealed up the air box, balanced and vented the clutches, etc. The secret to keeping these engines going long term was to turn up the oil pump and add about a half cup of injector oil to each tank of fuel. Doo's at that time packed the outer crank bearings with Isoflex grease and the inner bearings relied on whatever airraded oil was floating around in the crank case...which in hindsight was a pretty crap design. They worked great a few thousand miles, but eventually you'd have to tear down the block and repack the outer bearings...and if they, or the inner crank and rod bearings were bad, replace the crankshaft. And if you let them go too long, the rods would usually get sloppy come apart and window the case.
Then I got creative and added a set of Crank Shop twin pipes, fuel controller and did some clutching....and the thing was an absolute weapon. I did eventually blow it up, fooling around with the Boondocker control box while doing speed passes one afternoon. That proved to be a pretty costly mistake...but it did give me the opportunity to get into the engine. I ended up taking things a step further with the rebuild and drilled the lower half of the case to drip oil directly on the center bearings, which combined with everything else, pretty much took care of lubrication issues. Ran it 2-3 more years after that.
I ended up selling it to a guy in Michigan about 8-years-ago. And wouldn't you know it, he messaged me last winter and told me he had put about 5,000-miles on it since I sold it to him and wondered if he should tear it down to rebuild it. I asked him if it blew up, but he claimed that it was still running as strong as the day I sold it to him, that he just hadn't heard of one lasting that long. lol
That’s one heck of a story! Glad to hear the sled is still running strong!
@@skidoojunky6230 Ironically Dustin, I probably learned half of the little idiosyncrasies of this sled, over hundreds of threads I'd rummaged through, or participated in on Dootalk, from yourself and others like you who were elbow deep in them during their heyday. Do you still frequent the site?
1:17 they did attempt it in 2003! Very easy to forget about the Ski Doo Legend 800 sdi although... probably for good reason
121mph first motor 122 second and current motor who knows how accurate it is. To me one of the most fun parts about the sled is 60 to 80 miles per hour. It does it in a blink. My dealer told me when new Skidoo had oil setting low to make it look like it was good on oil. With the new motor he said it will get more oil. It smokes a little more but so far so good.
Hey there. I just stumbled on this video. I have recently acquired serial number 4, also a 2005 prototype. I am in the process of restoring this sled as it’s been sitting in a field for years and full of mice. It was pre mechanical fuel pump as well. It only had the 1 HP pump in the tank. I’m looking at installing a fuel pressure gauge as well. Do you have the list of parts and any pics of how and where to mount the gauge? Thanks, love the video.
Yes, autometer atm3312 gauge, atm2121 gauge mounting cup. A 2’ stainless fuel line with no 4an female ends on both, 4an male run T, 2 of 4an female to 1/4” hose barb push lock fittings and 2 eyelet solderless connectors to hook up the backlight on the pressure gauge to the backlight on the fuel gauge.
@@skidoojunky6230 thank you sir. I think I see you put the gauge on the side of the pod.
Seems like another example of Ski Doo's pre production engines being a lot more dependable than what eventually made it to production.
I prefer to refer to it as the “Joe Consumer” could wreak and anvil with a hammer theory lol!
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Why didn’t the Rev chassis get an 800 SDI?
My fuel pump fix is a2003 sdi high pressure pump with in tank dual pick ups..no more low pressure pump
Humm, I’d like to hear more about you fuel pump mod. I have an 05 and recently blew the motor. It only had about 4000mi on a new motor. I believe the fuel pump failed and it just came to a grinding hault on the trail. I’m not even sure what to expect when I open it up. I hope a home and piston will fix it.
Nothing I have ever ridden puts a smile on my face like this Mach does and I’d love to get her back on the go again.
Those Big twin Mach Z’s were unreliable engines! But rode nice. Not sure if there was an upgrade for em.
I had the 07 mach x I loved that sled until I blew both jugs
Back in 05 my new Mxzx800 ptec would outrun my buddy’s 05 Mach Z top speed. The following year he bought an 06 and it was a different sled, would walk me without a problem.
A lot of the 05’s were underachievers out of the box. With a few grams of pin weight in the primary they were rocket ships. Definitely under clutched out of the box in 05
I had one of these and it was a pile of crap !!!
They were definitely not for anyone. Like I told someone earlier today. I would love to own a new one today knowing what I know now. I really think the longevity and reliability could be greatly increased
those machs were garbage 5000k kaboom
If you listen I agree and say they are 3500 mile engines at best. Very unfortunate because they are so cool.
@@skidoojunky6230 they also were not cool handled and rode like shit
Sounds like every Cat or Polaris I owned of that Era, 5,000km seemed to be normal
@@billreichheld4839They didn't ride as good as a REV that year but way better than the F-1000, those were tank turds that didn't turn worth shit😅