Fantastic video. Not sure why OT isn't providing such useful tutorials for SINE. Thanks for stepping in and providing such a great tip. So clear, so helpful. Much appreciated!
Hey man, Yeah I'm going to like and subscribe.....8 minutes with your session here I learned more than 2 years watching tutorials for the Sine! Nice job.I figured out the shift click by accident one day, 100 videos from the fellas never a mention( or I missed it). Not to rag on the guys at Orchestral Tools not even close, you just explain things really well........Thank You for taking the time, Have a great day out there!
👌 Extrem hilfreich, Riesendank an dich, Alex!! 🤩👍 Mann, ich stelle fest, ich beschäftige mich zu wenig mit dem SINE Player. Dabei ist der absolut großartig. Aber gut, als angehender Komponist hab ich eh noch ziemlich den Kopf voll. 🤔
Is there a way to adjust the Marcatos to be Velocity controlled as well when implementing this technique? It seems that OT has the Marcatos responding more to Mod while the Staccatos and staccatissimos respond to Vel.
@@AlexPfeffer I’m finding it difficult as I’m not as experienced composer and have just been used to the VSL ecosystem for the last 10 years. Sine is quite different, and it’s just hard to get used to new things I guess. I’m not sure why there are so many mic positions, and whether I need to add more reverb to the mix, or whether the Tallinn built in reverb is enough. I’m hoping to incorporate Tallinn into my 1st big composition and video project, starting with a trip to the island of Skokholm, which is a nature reserve of the coast of Wales.
@@Martinbeef I wouldn't overthink the process. It is something that you get experience with the more you use it. If you finished a track, try loading a few mic instances, try some EQ or additional reverb and at one point you will like the results :) ... keep in mind that this process never stops. You may find some great settings and then 10 years later you may think "why the heck did I work like this" ... enjoy the trip! :D
Hi Alex, your videos are excellent and thanks for this too. Two important points in my view, (using Austrian Audio H65 headphones and thankfully with perfect pitch) I could not hear any change from the expressive vibrato to the subtle vibrato after listening to it about 8 times at 4:50 - perhaps having both patches selected was the error? The other point is that imo the dynamic ranges in the switching between the 4 patches at 7:00 is so wide and uncontrollable that it renders this feature useless unless one is using another controller simultaneously. I'd love to know what you think on this. Thanks again.
Hey Joanna, I don't have perfect pitch and have a hearing loss of 70% on my right ear but I can hear the differences between those two vibrato on my smartphone, so I am not sure what the problem is. Besides that if you find the other options useless then Sine or using this feature may be nothing for you.
@@AlexPfeffer I wasn't expecting such a dismissive response (which you didn't address either) and I went to a bit of effort to ask your opinion. I use Sine (with a new Max1 64gb, Dynaudio Bm6A speakers and I merely used the Hi-X65 to make sure I made no mistake). All I can say is I'd love to have your smartphone (I'm on an iPhone 10). Sorry if I hurt your feelings but I never intended to and I still think you make interesting videos. Have a nice day
@@joanna439 first of all, thank you and sorry, but I don't understand why perfect pitch wouldn't have anything to do with detecting vibrato. I am aware I was a bit snippy-ish when I said that but I can not know or do not know why you are not hearing the difference between those two. I hear it and it is there ... . Regarding the other issue with the dynamic ranges and that it renders the feature useless. Then what can I say? We have all different taste. There are sample libs and articulations that I prefer. Compressors and EQs I tend to use more than others. Why? Because there is gear that I prefer ... so if you don't like the dynamic range then I would suggest using another sample because it is basically not your cup of tea. Please don't get me wrong here, but I am not someone who wants someone to like something only because I do. I, personally, am fine with using this feature, otherwise I wouldn't have done this video.
Thank you! As far as I know it won't work on any but it works with a combo of certain OT instruments. I can't say exactly which but I think it was limited from lib to lib, however, please don't take me for granted :)
Hi Alex, very useful presentation. But I cannot replicate the morph between subtle and expressive vibrato because I can only set both expressions either to subtle or to expressive, but not one to subtle and one to expressive. I used exactly the same setup as you concerning the daw and the library. Any idea what I'm doing wrong?
Hi Alex, thanks for this video! I just purchased Berlin Strings and I'm trying to do what you've described, but in my version OT put tremolo and sustains into separate folders. Tremolo is in Violin 1 ornaments while sustain is in Violin 1 longs and shorts. Within the same folder I'm able to do what you've described, but now It won't let me merge those two articulations because they're in separate folders. Any help would be much appreciated!
What do you mean with folders? On the hard drive or within sine? Be aware of how to place the patches once you dragged and dropped them over to the right. There are two different ways possible. Hope that helps.
@@AlexPfeffer Thanks for getting back to me! This is in sine - I'm able to morph just as your video demonstrates with for example, sustains and potato longs - because they're both in the violin 1's longs and shorts sub folder. However, because tremolo is in a different sub folder (ornaments) it won't let me morph between sustains and tremolos. I noticed in your video you don't seem to have any sub folders though. When I drop down violins sine gives me the following subfolders: Longs and Shorts, Ornaments, Dynamics, Repetitions, Octave scale runs. I'm not able to morph between two articulations if they're in different subfolders. Thanks again for any advice you can offer!
Thanks Alex, do you know if there is a way to lock the articulations in place once I've chosen them? It's so easy to lose them if I accidentally play the keyboard in the low or hi range...
@@AlexPfeffer OMG that's hilarious. As you can tell, I am a fancy and sophisticated patron of the arts. "Who is the artist?" I have to go find those...
I am sorry, I am not sure if there has been any updates or folder restructuring going on, making this impossible. It is always a risk doing videos like this because features may work for a specific time until something has been updated. Did you get it sorted out by now?
OT has done a HORRIBLE job of explaining Sine... Personally I don't have a clue about such things and have pretty much given up on Sine... NO F'n educational info coming out of OT at all! I'm done buying Sine products... I really love THIS vid... WTF is wrong with OT??? BTW, it's INSANE I'm writing this 8 friggin months after the other comments below and OT still hasn't done a F'n thing!!!
This is just so great. I particularly like that it IS actually possible to morph the vibrato:) THanks so much for your efforts.
Glad it works for you, thank you! :)
Fantastic video. Not sure why OT isn't providing such useful tutorials for SINE. Thanks for stepping in and providing such a great tip. So clear, so helpful. Much appreciated!
This is amazing. I've been trying to find guides on SINE player but I couldn't really find much on youtube other than OT's introduction, thanks!
First time viewer, absolutely like the video and definitely learned something here. That’s instant thumb up and sub! Thanks Alex
Thanks so much, Phil! Highly appreciated! :)
Great Alex! Nice tip, I stumbled across this by accident and thought that something like this is probably possible, till I saw your video. Nice!
Great video + explanation of Polymaps in SINE-thanks for featuring Alex!
Hey guys, anytime! Thank you so much!
Hey man, Yeah I'm going to like and subscribe.....8 minutes with your session here I learned more than 2 years watching tutorials for the Sine! Nice job.I figured out the shift click by accident one day, 100 videos from the fellas never a mention( or I missed it). Not to rag on the guys at Orchestral Tools not even close, you just explain things really well........Thank You for taking the time, Have a great day out there!
Wow, thank you! I'm running with this!
Thanks for the video, Alex!
Finaly I know how to do this. I heard about it but had no clue how to. Thanks!
You're more than welcome! Thanks!
Thank you! Very cool to know. I also have an ATOM SQ in front of me. Will start the "morphing" programming
Most useful tip I’ve seen lately, thanks Alex. Simple and clear!
Thank you! :)
OMGosh thank you for this! I love the player but could not figure out ways to smooth out transitions for performance. Great video.
Excellent video and explanation on how to load the polymap. Thank you!!
Glad it was helpful! Thank you!
This is really helpful and very clear - thank you!
Thank you!
Awe, damn. I so wanted to hear the morphing between Staccatissimo and Staccato ! :)
Haha, coming to a time expanding universe, near you! :D
Thank you so much!
Excellent & helpfull video. I've downloaded Sine and its recent "free" instruments and I didn't know this feature existed.
Thank you
Glad it was helpful! Thank you!
You're simply the best!
really helpful - many thanks!
Fantastic feature and great video.
Thank you!
Whoa. Even more powerful if I use my expression pedal. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks man!
@@AlexPfeffer no problem!
👌 Extrem hilfreich, Riesendank an dich, Alex!! 🤩👍 Mann, ich stelle fest, ich beschäftige mich zu wenig mit dem SINE Player. Dabei ist der absolut großartig. Aber gut, als angehender Komponist hab ich eh noch ziemlich den Kopf voll. 🤔
Ojah, das kenn ich ... wird sich auch nie ändern, ahahha :D
Great video
Thanks!
Great Video Alex!
Is there a way to adjust the Marcatos to be Velocity controlled as well when implementing this technique? It seems that OT has the Marcatos responding more to Mod while the Staccatos and staccatissimos respond to Vel.
@@tomrhea6655 I would have to check but technically, yes ... you could even delete and add specific layers such as the fff and just from e.g. pp to ff
Thanks for this. I’m struggling a bit with Sine and Tallinn.
Thank you! Why struggling?
@@AlexPfeffer I’m finding it difficult as I’m not as experienced composer and have just been used to the VSL ecosystem for the last 10 years. Sine is quite different, and it’s just hard to get used to new things I guess. I’m not sure why there are so many mic positions, and whether I need to add more reverb to the mix, or whether the Tallinn built in reverb is enough. I’m hoping to incorporate Tallinn into my 1st big composition and video project, starting with a trip to the island of Skokholm, which is a nature reserve of the coast of Wales.
@@Martinbeef I wouldn't overthink the process. It is something that you get experience with the more you use it. If you finished a track, try loading a few mic instances, try some EQ or additional reverb and at one point you will like the results :) ... keep in mind that this process never stops. You may find some great settings and then 10 years later you may think "why the heck did I work like this" ... enjoy the trip! :D
Great tip! Didn't know this one! Thanks a lot!
Happy to help! Thank you!
This is incredibly helpful, thanks! I would love more tips like this with the Berlin Series in SINE, if you have any of the just released libraries.
Richtig gut erklärt Alex!!
Wow, thank you.
Great tutorial
Thanks Paul!
Thank you so much!!!!! You literally saved me!!! )))
Hahah, great to hear! Thank you!
Hi Alex, your videos are excellent and thanks for this too. Two important points in my view, (using Austrian Audio H65 headphones and thankfully with perfect pitch) I could not hear any change from the expressive vibrato to the subtle vibrato after listening to it about 8 times at 4:50 - perhaps having both patches selected was the error? The other point is that imo the dynamic ranges in the switching between the 4 patches at 7:00 is so wide and uncontrollable that it renders this feature useless unless one is using another controller simultaneously. I'd love to know what you think on this. Thanks again.
Hey Joanna, I don't have perfect pitch and have a hearing loss of 70% on my right ear but I can hear the differences between those two vibrato on my smartphone, so I am not sure what the problem is. Besides that if you find the other options useless then Sine or using this feature may be nothing for you.
@@AlexPfeffer I wasn't expecting such a dismissive response (which you didn't address either) and I went to a bit of effort to ask your opinion. I use Sine (with a new Max1 64gb, Dynaudio Bm6A speakers and I merely used the Hi-X65 to make sure I made no mistake). All I can say is I'd love to have your smartphone (I'm on an iPhone 10). Sorry if I hurt your feelings but I never intended to and I still think you make interesting videos. Have a nice day
@@joanna439 first of all, thank you and sorry, but I don't understand why perfect pitch wouldn't have anything to do with detecting vibrato. I am aware I was a bit snippy-ish when I said that but I can not know or do not know why you are not hearing the difference between those two. I hear it and it is there ... .
Regarding the other issue with the dynamic ranges and that it renders the feature useless. Then what can I say? We have all different taste. There are sample libs and articulations that I prefer. Compressors and EQs I tend to use more than others. Why? Because there is gear that I prefer ... so if you don't like the dynamic range then I would suggest using another sample because it is basically not your cup of tea.
Please don't get me wrong here, but I am not someone who wants someone to like something only because I do. I, personally, am fine with using this feature, otherwise I wouldn't have done this video.
What an absolute gamechanger! Every developer should implement this. And you can do this with any OT instrument supported in Sine?
Thank you! As far as I know it won't work on any but it works with a combo of certain OT instruments. I can't say exactly which but I think it was limited from lib to lib, however, please don't take me for granted :)
Hi Alex, very useful presentation. But I cannot replicate the morph between subtle and expressive vibrato because I can only set both expressions either to subtle or to expressive, but not one to subtle and one to expressive. I used exactly the same setup as you concerning the daw and the library. Any idea what I'm doing wrong?
are you sure you loaded the articulations so you see the keyswitches and not the midi channels?
@@AlexPfeffer I see the keyswitches, but not the button "Sustain Pedal" in the lower right corner of the sine player.
Did you ever find a solution to the vibrato morphing?
@@citizenworld8094 I just checked it again. Now it works as shown by Alex, maybe due to a recent sine player update.
Hi Alex, thanks for this video! I just purchased Berlin Strings and I'm trying to do what you've described, but in my version OT put tremolo and sustains into separate folders. Tremolo is in Violin 1 ornaments while sustain is in Violin 1 longs and shorts. Within the same folder I'm able to do what you've described, but now It won't let me merge those two articulations because they're in separate folders. Any help would be much appreciated!
What do you mean with folders? On the hard drive or within sine? Be aware of how to place the patches once you dragged and dropped them over to the right. There are two different ways possible. Hope that helps.
@@AlexPfeffer Thanks for getting back to me! This is in sine - I'm able to morph just as your video demonstrates with for example, sustains and potato longs - because they're both in the violin 1's longs and shorts sub folder. However, because tremolo is in a different sub folder (ornaments) it won't let me morph between sustains and tremolos. I noticed in your video you don't seem to have any sub folders though. When I drop down violins sine gives me the following subfolders: Longs and Shorts, Ornaments, Dynamics, Repetitions, Octave scale runs. I'm not able to morph between two articulations if they're in different subfolders. Thanks again for any advice you can offer!
@@nickiadams4388 tbh I have no clue, maybe they changed something in the newer versions of the libraries or SINE itself. Big sorry :/
Thanks Alex, do you know if there is a way to lock the articulations in place once I've chosen them? It's so easy to lose them if I accidentally play the keyboard in the low or hi range...
Hey, tbh not really. I think this is a problem with every lib featuring keyswitches.
I love this feature.Also, I like the artwork behind you very much. Who is the artist?
Thank you Don, I found these on Amazon on the category of audio pictures. It is basically some very rudimentary sound panels.
@@AlexPfeffer OMG that's hilarious. As you can tell, I am a fancy and sophisticated patron of the arts. "Who is the artist?" I have to go find those...
SustainnnnnnnnHIGHVELOCITYTREMOLLOOOOOO! Why librairies always do that. Why?
Strangely, I can't get this working.
I am sorry, I am not sure if there has been any updates or folder restructuring going on, making this impossible. It is always a risk doing videos like this because features may work for a specific time until something has been updated. Did you get it sorted out by now?
OT has done a HORRIBLE job of explaining Sine... Personally I don't have a clue about such things and have pretty much given up on Sine... NO F'n educational info coming out of OT at all! I'm done buying Sine products... I really love THIS vid... WTF is wrong with OT???
BTW, it's INSANE I'm writing this 8 friggin months after the other comments below and OT still hasn't done a F'n thing!!!