I tried Batman: Arkham City again...
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ก.ค. 2024
- Batman Arkham City is tremendous. Has been for over over a decade. But today I wanted to go back and see if it still holds up to modern standards when we remove our Rose-Tinted-Glasses. Is it as good as we all remember?
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This is one of those games where the idea "Graphics are temporary but art style is forever" applies.
To be fair, the graphics still don't look crappy as well
Graphics in this game are very good
@@KlaymenDel great art is the reason why the graphics look good today.
@@KlaymenDel yea that's because of the art style. They go hand in hand but great art style keeps games looking amazing years after
It has aged graphically much better than Arkham Origins definitely because that game doesn't look so good after all these years. City came out earlier and still holds up.
The backstory behind Penguin's monocle is that apparently he was in a bar fight and a broken bottle got stuck into his eye. A surgeon told him it would be too dangerous to remove so he keeps it as a "monocle".
It always irked me that they never mention that in the game. It's explained on his bio page in the menu, but 10 year old me who couldn't be bothered to read that was just confused AF about why Penguin could possibly need a permanent monocle.
I was lucky to have read the bio as a kid so I didn’t question it in City. But yeah, they could have easily had some thugs talk about it as a random conversation you’d overhear.
I love that it's hidden. It that sort of thing that blows me away to find years after my first play through like the one I did in January, after I've lost track of how many times I've done so.
I think there *was* a thug conversation about it but who knows if it would be the conversation triggered in the available locations (i.e. You needed to be near Penguin Goons) and also hope the player stuck around to listen instead of focusing on other things or interrupting. I know I totally interrupted those conversations on accident even when I was trying to listen in.
@@dahken417 Think it's also briefly mentioned in one of his tapes with Strange. He mentiones something about how he cut out the other guys eyes and made him wander into open traffic...
I always loved that if you observe Harley Quinn with the detective vision while she’s crying over joker in the chair, it actually shows she is “calm”.
I never picked up on that, cool detail!
And the fake Joker (secretly Clayface) doesn't have a skeleton!
@@dr_jamie_ranger I forgot about that part!!!
Random observation here but, I’ve always been mind blown of how good looking these promo posters for Arkham City (the ones with a character and a white background, with popping colors) were. They feel so original and strangely give off a feeling that I’d say is separate from the game itself. It feels more like a grittier, noir like, realistic kind of batman story. I’d really like to see that kind of game sometime.
Idk how no one else talks about this! My favorite cover (and probably game in the series) is Asylum but the contrasting theme they used for City was so ominously bad ass. Felt like the punisher in a bat suit.
Watch the Batman movie then
@@liverpoolfanatic8064 i did. Don’t like it.
@@itsOGP fair enough
those covers also tie in to the action figures they released next to the game launch. always wanted those as a kid!
To be fair when it comes to map size, the underground sections and Wonder city add quite a bit to the game
tbf, I dont see a reason why arkham city NEEDS to be bigger. I mean, something big doesn’t necessarily mean its better. I personally prefer a smaller, more intiment open world. I felt like I knew every nook and cranny by the end, and the game feels like it was designed around it and it gets so much detail within the world because of its size.
I really dont think anything would really be improved by making it larger just for the sake of largeness. unless the story was longer. heck, there is already TOO MANY riddler trophies as is.
IDK, I feel the game and plot were made for this specific size.
@@midshipman8654 agree
I always forget about wonder city
If I remember correctly, the Penguin’s monocle actually is a glass bottle stuck in his face that he can’t remove for medical reasons.
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I think it was in one of Victor Zsasz's stories. If I remember well, he was playing cards against Penguin in Penguin's club. The game was going in Zsasz's favor, but Penguin cheated and took the win at the end. Frusterated, ZsasZ took a bottle and shoved it in Penguin's eye. The doctor's couldn't remove it without causing more irreparable damage to it.
Edit: upon further inspection, it seems that the card game and the bottle incident are unrelated. Zsasz wasn't the guy who shoved the bottle in Pneguin's eye.
@@randomstuff9053 just look closer at Penguin. It’s obvious it’s a broken glass bottle
Thats fucking hilarious.
He can remove it, he has enough money, he just chooses to leave it there as like a calling card for himself
Arkham Origins, love it or hate, is part of the series. Rocksteady has acknowledged it several times and there are references to the events of Origins in Knight.
And Origins also gave us some explanations for events in Asylum and City. Like, I love how they actually managed to finally make Bane an awesome character and also explain why he's so stupid in the other games.
@Gay Killer Arkham Orgins isn't better than AC1, 2, Brotherhood, or revelations
@Gay Killer 2 is better than revelations and brotherhood is better than any of the games I named
@Gay Killer also I didn't even name 3 which is debatable, 4 which (i personally didn't like it but ik plenty of people did) and even AC Orgins
I think origins is better than knight by a long shot
I like that the map isn't massive in this game. I think I've played through at least five times and it's never been boring or tedious to glide around this map, every ounce of it is packed with personality or secrets or something to do.
The best part about the church area is that if you don’t escape before the countdown ends, joker just talks to you about how you knew that he wouldn’t kill you that easily and that they will fight until one of them die
But if you wait further, the bomb goes off and you die :D
In one of the Arkham Stories it tells of a guy who smashed a broken bottle into Penguin’s face and it couldn’t be removed without killing him. Pretty grim, but that’s Arkham.
I'll say this though, the bot comment just above me is a fool haha, "thanks for watching and commenting" like bruh u didn't make the vid xD
15:31 To this day, people still try to shove _Origins_ in the corner. Smh
_Arkham Knight_ goes out of its way to make loads of references and tie-in material to _Origins_ and makes it very clear it's canon to the series. It's still so weird to me that there are people who say it has no ties and/or people who say it is connected....but also not. It's not part of the technical Rocksteady trilogy, but it is still relevantly the prequel entry in the Arkhamverse timeline and chronology.
Arkham origins doesn't feel like its part of the trilogy because it was made by a different company, not to mention the game feels broken way more often than the other games.
I love the Batman Beyond suit in City. Also the TAS and Yellow Lantern skins. I played this game over so many, many, many times, some of those times just to see how the skins looked in certain environments and in cutscenes that weren’t pre-rendered. For instance you can see how Bruce looks in the Beyond suit during his rescue of Vicki Vale.
This was my first open world game I ever played and was my true introduction into the Xbox 360. I may be biased but everything in this game apart from graphics holds up to this day. Arkham City is undeniably Rocksteady’s gem.
What? The graphics still look great on PC. Totally not dated imo.
@@nostrum8 they aren’t bad by any stretch of the imagination. I played on Xbox and went back recently and obviously it is dated a bit. I don’t have a comment for the pc version because I didn’t play Pc back then.
@@brando8408 it's that weird 2010s playdough charm is the best way I can describe it
Weakest game of the trilogy is "undeniably Rocksteady's gem"?
@@Great_Scott_ Arkham city is the weakest game in the series? Did we play the same game?
Was just doing a replay of this series. City is such an amazing game and the whole series is awesome. These games got me more into batman and hes my favorite hero now.
I can relate, definitely gonna play through em again probably on pc this time
i personally think that arkham knight has the most replayability.
@@thephoenix4093 Driving the batmobile and gliding all over Gotham is VERY satisfying in Arkham knight.
I love batman,but Ant-Man is my fav
Long time viewer, first time commenter
I’ve been going back for 100% on steam and honestly you nailed so much of this…
When I was younger I thought the map was the biggest I had ever seen but now it really does seem tiny; but even I missed details like the courthouse being a parallel to two-faces dichotomy. This game is a gem that truly has and will stand the tests of time
One of the best games ever made.
I also remembered Arkham City to be a relatively big open world and that the main story was long. When I replayed it recently I realized that the world is tiny and the main story is incredibly short
The main plot is indeed much shorter than I remember (especially the underground section leading to Ra's al Ghul) but the map feels like nothing goes to waste. It's still fun to free roam in and it's not so big that it becomes tedious to traverse.
Arkham City is a Masterpiece and the pinnacle of not only the trilogy but the genre as a whole imo. Excellent story excellent setting excellent characters voice acting and dialogue. The graphics were stellar for the time and the gameplay still holds up as astounding.
I remember when i first heard about arkham asylum before it came out, i followed it closely for so long and it got delayed, i was crushed. Played it when it came out and instantly loved it, what a classic, absolutely revolutionary. I think it holds up better than this game tbh. You are right about the map size though, its much smaller than i remembered. Most of the "map" is inside buildings actually. The open world really only serves as a hub.
I still need to go back and play this game, it was so much fun.
You should be in the millions of subs man, love the videos such dedication and detailed reviews of everything
I will say, as someone who's played probably hundreds of hours in the riddler's challenges for the combat maps, I have a big issue with the combat system. Still amazing and really fun, but I feel like sometimes the game fucks me over and breaks my combo for no reason. Like the character Im playing as can literally travel across the map to hit a guy, to keep the combo going, but there have been so many instances where I am surrounded by guys, or directly facing a guy, and my character(well into a 100+ hit combo) will punch the air. For literally no reason at all. This has happened many times, and I can't identify it as anything I'm doing wrong, I'm always pointing towards the enemy I want to hit, always pressing the right buttons, but for some reason the character will throw a kick into air, and my combo will be gone.
So annoying.
The same thing happens in Asylum too. It might have to do with the game trying to track on a different enemy then the one you're aiming for and it conflicts with the system so you end of punching the air.
I'd say this isnt special to city but all arkham games, happens to the best of us.
I love the new thumbnail styles bro so minimalistic but catch my eyes all the time!
I actually revisited this game a few weeks ago and I still love it to death. As for the suicide squad game, I am actually looking forward to it but i don't have super high expectations. I do like that the gameplay looks pretty different from the traditional Arkham gameplay. I have never been super crazy about the combat in the Arkham games so Suicide Squad looks interesting and refreshing to me. But I wont let my expectations get too high.
25:50 that impression is great😂
I totally need to replay this eventually. I’ve only played it once
Thanks for the great video brother. Arkham city is one of my favorite games. Did you know there is a secret dialogue with joker if you choose to linger in the bell tower before escaping?
Keep it up with the amazing work mate! God bless you and your family. Stay safe.
Arkham asylum has the best story. Arkham Knight has the best combat. But Arkham city gave the best balance of both
Man i love this game so much. Thanks for revisiting it.
Luke, thank you for this video whenever I look back at Arkham city it just feels like one big animated series episode and I love it for that. Not to mention all the references to the series in there. I also loved the promo art for this game with the all white. I remember going into gs before the game came out and that art was the only thing that stuck out in the store.
Dude i just wanted to say that i love your videos. Arkham batman will always be special. I really hope we will see sth like these games again
arkham city was one of my favourite games growing up thank you for this review thus far it’s been very good
If you want to spice up the combat. Try mixing in your devices more. Trying to get in the explosive gel, electro shock, the ice gadgets on top of your main gadgets in flow with your 4 different combo finishers and the different stun moves really makes you feel like a tactical force.
Yea I feel like he completely missed that
Arkham series was just an amazing series. Strong writing and ideas. Got me thinking at going at it again, lol.
I was obsessed with this game as a kid. I would do non-stop speedruns everyday. This was the ONLY game I played for a good chunk of time.
Batman Arkham City Was My First Open World On Xbox 360, the world was so dark and gritty, I adored it, the score is absolutely breathtaking, and of course an excellent cast of voice actors like Kevin Conroy, Mark Hamill, Troy Baker, Nolan North and more!, the Arkham franchise is so immersive and interesting, I love it so much and will always be in my heart.
There's a log you find during the game that explains why Cobblepot has the broken glass bottle. He received it as an injury during a poker game where his opponent smashed a bottle in his face, and the glass is too deep to just pull out without surgery.
I seem to remember that surgically removing the bottle wasn't a viable option without Penguin losing the eye completely.
As a kid, I didn’t know about in game maps, so this place was a huge maze to me, and the only way I progressed through the story was the hot\cold meter, I really felt like I was discovering things, it was cool
Fun Fact: Catwoman's second mission takes place around the same time Batman enters the Steel Mill, which is 9 hours before Protocol 10. Her third mission ends at the beginning of Protocol 10. That means that Poison Ivy had her upside for around 8 or 9 hours. 🤣
The monocle is actually a broken end of a bottle that black mask shoved into his eye in a bar fight. If he removed it he’d lose his eye
I’ll take a smaller, more condensed, better designed open world over a massive map with a million repetitive tasks any day.
You know what's not gonna be amazing in 10 Years time the new god of war game with chests rpg elements, grindy combat and restricted movement will not make you wanna play it again. These old games were simpler and had depth at the same time and shorter in length with quality content unlike modern bloated games.
Arkham City is one of the greatest videogames I’ve ever played it took what Asylum did and turned it up to 11. Seriously the characters, story, music, everything was perfect
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Great breakdown as always 🙏🏿👑
I would like to see Rocksteady make another Batman game. Asylum and City are two of my favorite games. Knight’s Batmobile battles are flawed but it’s still a pretty good game as well.
It looks awesome. Is way more important the artistic design and having good professionals in every department of the project who can optimize everything for the tecnology that you have than the technology itself.
Arkham Origins was about how Black Gate Prison was I’ll equipped to handle the likes of the crazy villains vs the mobb villains which lead to the opening of Asylum. It continues the ark as well
damn that slap comment... yeah love this channel and your humor is great but yeah I almost crossed out chrome but when you started commenting it yourself i just couldt haha.
Luke going back to these games like he’s going back to his favorite food spots after a change of ownership to see if the food still tastes the same
The Arkham series is so underrated in the grand scheme of things.
How is it underrated, people in general hold them in very high regard
@@WILLINGLYWILD Didn’t ask, sadly. 😔
Honestly I feel this way mainly in the general public eye kind of sense they don't get talked about enough.
Arkham asylum and city are both in my top 5 games of all time played the series from day 1. Massive part of my life.
Thank you rocksteady!
@@Hank280 why tf would they be talked about out of the blue ? When does that ever happen ?
The games are among the most praised in history but they're over a decade old now so obviously they not front page news.
@@shalindelta7 People mention games in conversation all the time from the past. This video literally came out of the blue... and talked about the game to appreciate it
My point is this stuff doesn't happen enough you've literally just said people don't talk about games out of the blue on a video that's talked about it out of the blue 👏
Also people talk about games from the past all the time. Surely i don't need to explain that to you.
Your one salty guy. 😉
Absolutely beautiful experience. I played both Arkham Asylum and City during the pandemic on my PS4 and the performance was way worse than I remembered. That sucks but the game is a goldie for sure.
With the church tower bomb scene, you can technically stay after the countdown, Joker will have extra dialogue about him having more plans for you. He'll urge you to leave and not wanting you to die just yet.
Batman Arkham origins is in the same timeline as the rocksteady games and rocksteady acknowledges it in Arkham knight. Feel how you want about it but it’s a very good Batman game and it’s part of the Arkham verse
I guess the cause of the freezing during the suit up section is because it needed to load the achievement, as you get an achievement for suiting up
Yes, i remember having the same issue on my laptop back when it came out. Remember seeing people say the same thing on forums.
when harley quinn comes running towards you (13:58) instead of a counter you can also throw a punch and knock her right down.
Also regarding Penguin's monocle, he is told removing it would be fatal, but later on in his tapes Strange says he could remove it, someone I assume could successfully perform the procedure, but Penguin refuses as he thinks it makes him look tough.
Whether you punch Penguin or not is not is not referenced because Cobblepot doesn't know that Bruce Wayne is Batman. So it would be "Strange" of him to bring that up to Batman.
I beat this game twice back when I was in junior high school and a few months ago I did another playthrough and the game was just as fun and as beautiful as I remember. Truly a timeless game. It's a shame Arkham Knight didn't live up to this.
This was my favorite game growing up, played it thru dozens and dozens of times a decade ago and NEVER knew I was able to play with cat woman until I got older and got the game again for my PS4
The character model of Catwoman. My god.
32:17 I'm just realizing how nuts the nemesis system would be in a batman game, and crazy part is WB owns that system so it's literally perfect placement, they'll be using it for Wonder Woman but imagine for a batman game that would be so cool
Edit, I typed this before continuing the video, did realize you said it already but still, it would be so cool
If they made a real game instead of this game as a service that is Gotham knights...
I remember almost 100% the game but I never got the Catwoman DLC so I was never fully able to complete it until a few years later. Which was really crazy! My Xbox 360 didn’t have WiFi either.
And I totally remember wanting to glide through the city in the background! I even looked up and attempted to use a bug which allows you to float and fly through the buildings! You used the freeze grenade I believe!
I think why this city felt so expensive since it was likely one of the bigger open world AAA game many people would experience (myself included). Nowadays, various studios can do it, but back then, it was probably more rare.
Personally, I feel this is the best in the series. Perfect balance of combat/stealth skills, exploration, art, puzzles. It felt like the most tightly designed game of all three. And even compared to many other games.
Arkham City was the first game I ever preordered, the collectors edition with my own money (Being a teen at the time). I remember the moment I brought it home, unpacked the box and the statue, booted it up and just lost myself in it. Probably one of the best preorder experiences I had, I rarely preorder games these days because of the state of triple A games, the last great few preorder experiences I had was Arkham Knight collectors for the Ps4, the Witcher 3 Wild Hunt (both in 2015).
One of my favs ever! Arkham City is something special.
This is the first game I 100%ed.
Every singe riddler trophy.
Love this game dearly.
And all the DLC too
Even with the story & tone being dark you still have a great time playing the game. There’s some funny dialogue while roaming around Arkham City or in the narrative itself.
Watching this video made me wanna replay the game. Welp… starting download.
I wanna say that Penguin design was based on Jim Lee's version. Beautiful
This is one of my favorite games ever! I've played it so many times, specially on my old laptop where I had to play it in a 4:3 resolution at like 20fps lol. But I still played it so many times, I too really wanted to go off gliding into the larger Gotham city. The map felt huge back then but yeah, it is pretty small nowdays. Arkham Knight's does too feel small. Arkham City is probably my favorite one of the bunch, alongside this Batman being my favorite too. There's just so much to love here.
But at least as of now, I really hate the idea that rocksteady has spent like 7 years making a suicide squad game. I mean really? When they could be making a Superman game, or a Justice League game, or heck even a Swamp Thing game would be better! I'm not excited at all for the game. Maybe that can change, but I honestly would prefer they do something else.
This is the first video i see you being actually good at the game from the getgo Luke , gives your opinion much more credibility.
damn...phisher....
Mine was Elder Scrolls Arena... I think. (which u can play 4 free, now.)
Bro Batman games and WBs Nemesis system are MADE for each other. I actually hoped for Gotham Knights to have something alike.
Also regarding size. That small distance you glide at the beginning of the game. From the ace chemicals building to the courthouse is basically the distance of that entire district
I remember throwing remote control batarang's to the distant skyscrapers just trying to get as close as possible
The fact that if you stay past the countdown in the bell tower, Joker will spoil the end of the game, is a great detail.
I really am grateful for my experiences with the Arkham games, especially from a technical perspective. I recently played through all 4 titles on PC without issue. Aside from the nVidea Interactive Smoke in Knight. That breaks things still sadly.
i would play this non stop in middle school, such a goat game
Love to see you try this game again Luke, it is my favorite game of all time as well!
Also I wanna play Gollum
@@TheNeoParody And what do you think about Gollum now? 😆
@@MultiKamil97 I don't wanna play Gollum
@@TheNeoParody That's a proper answer haha
Good art design and a solid atmosphere more than makes up for more polygons. Especially because unless you are playing with a giant screen right up next to your face, the difference is not all that significant.
You can unlock grapple booster as soon as you save Catwoman. It's always the first thing I do.
I've never been able to do all the Riddler challenges....and the Harley DLC kicks my ass...but it's a great game!
Idk I felt like knights Gotham was fully realized. It was well sized and dense with secrets and details. It was so good
This is a perfect game for the Steam Deck. Been playing the entire Arkham series again on Deck and the first 3 games run at max settings 60fps. It's magnificent.
Oh, I need this for the Switch. Preferably all of the Arkham games. And Shadow of Mordor too.
Arkham City has great lore and a fantastic open world. I’ve played the story about 6 times haven’t finished Asylum or played Origins but played the story of Knight and almost all of the side activities except the Mad Hatter and Riddler ones.
Bloodborne, Jedi Academy, Dishonored, and Midnight Club 3 are some of the games I hold dear.
I was in my late 30s and early 40s when I played Arkham asylum and Arkham city and I enjoyed both house games
In my opinion, the reason to punch Penguin, outside of the early catharsis for players to get a free hit on one of the bosses, it closes a plot hole. If you leave Penguin conscious then he's able to see Bruce Wayne parcour his way onto the roof and never questions that this billionaire who just beat up his crew, can run up walls and break his cuffs AND arrives the same night batman does. I guess the punch probably rattles his mind a bit and he starts to second guess if he really saw bruce doing all that.
Just started to replaying it for hundred time. Despite all little flaws, it's video game perfection and absolute 10 out of 10
I remember beating the campaign in my PS3. This game was amazing
It’s Will Smith from East Philadelphia, adopted and ignored, in the game. Not the more famous Will Smith from West Philadelphia, born and raised. Being the only two people named William Smith in the country and both being from Philadelphia it can be confusing… especially since they’re both “actors”.
Fun fact: This Will Smith that’s in the game “Arkham City” also slapped Chris Rock at an Oscars. However, it was 30 years ago at Óscar‘s bar & comedy club. It’s weird how those kinda of things work out.
I always thought that he got the bottle monocule from Zsasz. If I remember correctly, Zsasz gambled his money away at The Iceberg Lounge after his parents died, accused Oswald of cheating at the cardgame (which is fair) and then stabbed/attacked Oswald with a broken bottle. I think it was mentioned in the side mission 'Cold Call Killer'.
23:00 There is one good thing they did. Ifd you owned the game on PC and Live for Windows went down, you could send a Photo of your game media (DVD in my case) to support and they gave you a Steam key.
Fun fact: Shadow of Mordor started off as a Batman game that would have the nemesis system
they do actually have a reason to his monocle tucked in the files you unlock with collectibles
so from what I remember it was done to him when he was all kid
i am actually still excited for the suicide squad game, it feels like it's gonna be way more fun in terms of story and characters than the previous main dc games we've gotten. it might not be better than the arkham games but at least it'll be different. i hope it'll be able to balance all of the different playable characters well so that one doesn't feel more or less polished than the others.
Or it's going to be like Avengers where 4 characters are all punching one damage spongy bad guy at the same time so you have no idea what's going on and team mates will kill your combos by hitting the enemy you're currently fighting. I wish they would have done anything other than Suicide Squad. DC thought Suicide Squad and Harley Quinn were going to be their next big IP after the 2nd movie so they put Rocksteady onto Suicide Squad. That plan hasn't really worked out and they couldn't scrap another Rocksteady game (Suicide Squad is not the first game they've worked on since Arkham. They got a couple years of development into something else before that got scrapped and they were told they had to make a Suicide Squad game). It's Rocksteady, so maybe they'll pull a miracle out of their ass, but my hopes are low.
@@ChaseSchleich imagine thinking rocksteady will make a game as bad as avengers…. That game from the get go did not look good. Every thing I’ve seen from suicide squad looks mikes better then avengers ever has so far.
@@luckyraygun1607 Everything you've seen? There's been one trailer and that was a year ago. Any future trailer will have very carefully executed game play so it doesn't look like 4 players beating on one damage sponge enemy, but when the game actually releases and real people are playing it, that's what's going to happen. 4 player melee combat is very difficult to pull off. I just have very little hope for Suicide Squad or for Gotham Knights (especially Gotham Knights). If it's great, then that's awesome, but I'm not expecting it to even be passable.
@@ChaseSchleich damn didn’t know you played the game but good for you
@@ChaseSchleich not like their have been multiple coop games before that have been successful but you seem to know what your talking about so I’ll take your word and believe suicide squad will be ass….. lmao gtfo niggas like you are annoying as hell
According to Victor Zsasz in one of the phone calls on his side mission, Penguins bottle cap monocle was given to him because of a gambling bar fight in the iceberg lounge. One of his angry customers that couldnt lodged a broken beer bottle in his face.
I hate how the remasters are locked at 30 fps on console (at least on ps5)
The new Wonder Woman game that's being worked on is using the Nemesis system, so it'll be interesting if Rocksteady decides to use it, also, in the future. That'll be amazing, love the system.
I feel exactly as you said. Definitely not the best game, but it truly has a special place in my heart. Such a unique masterpiece.
Luke's hair on point
Penguin doesn't know Bruce Wayne is Batman therefore it would not make sense for there to be a reference to punching him playing as Bruce Wayne